can you please do one on National Air Cargo flight 102, after seeing the vid of the crash it would be interesting to see what happened in the cockpit, your vids are so good! so much detail and animations, thank you!
Oh man, I was wrong. I thought this is the story where the employee hijacks the cargo plane. Not the one where the guy does a "barrel roll" but another disgruntled employee
Please, talk about 9 11 and what happened to the aircraft. I was an FAA Commercial pilot on that day, living in Mountain View, California. On that day, as a pilot, I knew that the official story was false........
Imagine the soul crushing feeling you'd have knowing you just flew 4,000ft above the airport you were supposed to land it and now have to divert to an alternate. I was so rooting for this FO to make it back. Speechless. RIP to both pilots
Its would be impossible even if he landed. Fire was too close and smoke was too toxic. Maybe it even better that way, at least no one else got injured.
It’s so sad though, yes I’ve heard of this accident before, and yes I knew the plane crashed somewhere in the sand near the airport, but damn I wanted the FO to make it back safely:/
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Can you imagine the dread the FO felt when the captain said he had no oxygen, get up from his seat and never hear from him again? The FOs plight became a thousand times more desperate in a single moment. He was truly alone.
Similar thing happened as the F/O tried to fly the aircraft in the hellish cockpit of Swissair 111 in its last minutes. There aren’t really words when one thinks of what must be going through their minds.
@@Blueclues16 - it’s up to both of them to make a decision, that’s how modern flight deck authority gradients work. Unfortunately they both laid for their mistake with their life. It is just lucky that no one on the ground was killed as well.
The captain messed up. I believe that they could have made it if he had continued on to Dubai. He should not have turned the plane around as he had to go almost twice the distance, and he wasted precious time in turning.
This is reminiscent of the Swissair crash near Halifax. Pilots should be mandated to go to the nearest appropriate airport regardless of informational availability in cases of fire. This was a heartbreaking watch.
This crash was a very emotional experience when I first heard the details. It’s so crushing how close he was to the airport, fought to the end, but it just became insurmountable.
Thank you for pointing out that the First Officer spent the final seconds of his life, doing whatever he could, to make sure no one else on the ground got hurt during this tragic event.
It has to be a horrifying feeling to know you're going to die. I think the first officer knew it before he overflew the airport. Rest in peace to both pilots.
He apparently turned just enough before crashing to avoid an apartment building and ground casualties. This was one of the more heartbreaking ones I’ve heard about, as if they just had a little luck on their side, a plane right behind them to relay messages, able to change to the right frequency, who knows they may have survived. Awful unfair way to go
The Co-pilot faced a long, slow, inevitable death yet he fought it every inch of the way, saving countless lives on the ground. A true hero in every sense of the word.
@@gwenk.7757 You're argument is valid. But you're disregarding the fact that Ethiopian 961 ditched at daytime. Nighttime meanwhile..... Let's just say working alone flying is just like being alone in the backrooms. Stress over the roof.
Yeah calling him a hero is ridiculous, no matter how tragic the situation or how hard he fought. I agree with gwenk. I'm not a pilot or someone who typically says things they wouldn't do but an ocean ditch would have probably been my first idea, it was probably the pilot's too. He made a few mistakes, and it's truly wild people here are calling him a hero, even calling for a posthumous award. Mindboggling.
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas I don't endorse his decision making in this horrible dangerous situation, and he is definitely not a hero or deserving of any of these awards the comments say he is. Sorry.
wow. at first i thought they were both dead, but with all the fighting the first officer did, i really thought he'd survive. the fear that man must have felt in his final minutes is insanely horrifying to imagine. this was all around just really sad :(
My heart sank when he tuned 195 instead of 095 because of the smoke. So sad. The first officer did an amazing job under so horrible circumstances. Such a sad accident.
As someone working for DHL Express I can sadly only confirm an accident like this is bound to happen again. Just the sheer incompetence of colleagues booking shipments with DG is mind boggeling. Luckily ground personel stops these goods very frequently. But if something can go wrong, it will eventually...
My mentor in aviation is a retired UPS 747 training captain. He was a part of the team at UPS that listened to the CVR. He said the F/O (Matthew Bell) never once panicked. Said is voice remained calm throughout the entire situation and he NEVER gave up flying that airplane.
Even if the first officer had entered the correct heading for the other airport ten miles away, it sounds as though it was unlikely that the outcome would have been different. But he did a heroic job avoiding the residential area.
For me, I cannot agree with that due to the fact that why the first officer would decide to turn off the auto pilot which resulted in diving. Otherwise, it seems of a question that if autopilot would be able to land the plane at the alternative airport. If everything worked out, would definitely be one of the most iconic event in whole of aviation probably.
@@javkhlanariunbaatar385 That's the way the story was told, but the final report of this specific flight has no conclusives if something had or hadn't happened to the plane at the time he disconnected the autopilot. So, remember, sometimes the story told ain't the full reality of the situation. Plus this man was seeing black smoke for how long now? That could've easily been a missclick.
@@javkhlanariunbaatar385 As I've never been a 747 pilot fighting for my life against a fire that makes its own oxidizer, I'm not gonna armchair-quarterback the guys decisions.
That was so intense, I actually caught myself holding my breath more than once. I already knew about this tragedy and its sad outcome, but your attention to detail and excellent story telling made it feel almost like I was there with them. The feeling was almost uncanny and I am still checking my clothes for burn marks. One thing is for sure, I now have a far deeper understanding of how this accident happened and what must have been going through the minds of the pilots as the fire and smoke gradually deprived them of their ability to control the plane. Well done (I think), now I am off to put my head into a bucket of cold water 🥵
24 years flying the 747. A few years ago after that awful accident, we did simulator training simulating batteries fires on main deck. To survive such event, you need to be on the ground within 18 minutes maximum.
Yeah, him and Mentour pilot are one of the top content creators. There is a small Chanel called three greens. His does very good videos I guess if he manages to grow a bit more will join the group
"brave pilots" Talking like that makes it sound like they knew what would happen on that flight... Words like heroism or bravery just don't work when it comes to pilots doing their job in the name of safety. Not to take away from the crew of UPS6, what they did, the F/O especially, was nothing short of pure skill. I wouldn't throw around words like "brave" or "hero" unless smth truly like that is encountered.
@@emililiev1621 Mentour goes very in depth and you can really tell you're listening to a pilot. This channel creates fantastic narratives. Both good in different ways.
I’ve seen several accounts of this crash and they’re all gut-wrenching. For these reasons I almost didn’t watch this. But I was almost certain that by enduring this horrific event one more time I’d learn something new in spite of all I already knew about it. And so I watched it. And I’m glad I did because I understand what happened now better than I have in the past.
My God. I have never been so wound up in my career as watching this. Thanks for making the video and for honoring this capable but unfortunate crew. The FO fought to the end to no avail. Great respect to both crew. Requiscat In Pace both.
Thanks again for another informative video. My wife and I love to hear your voice. It's perfect for narrating. Also nice to see your face after all these videos. Thanks for the work you do - always very informative and entertaining. I thought for the narrative that these pilots might make it through. RIP to both of them and man, that First Officer did all he could. Greetings from Australia. Keep up the great work.
This story always hits me hard and gives me chills, I think this crash, and the inverted Alaska Airlines crash are they most terrifying. There also was a crash where the airplane was fire and people were falling out before it crashed just short of the runway.
@@CodingAbroadagreed . However Japan ( JAL ) flight 123 with 28 minutes of up & down coupled with left & right tilting it rocking is the worst for me . That nose straight up then straight down sends me to another planet . As I write this I’m thinking about the passengers on German wings watching the co- pilot banging the cockpit door . I guess it’s a tie .! Good GOD . Anyway take care . Joey in Pennsylvania
I see myself as a calm and collected person, but this situation was absolutely dire. The worrying thing is how fast the fire spread, and started to destroy the fire guard. Must have been terrifying for the first officer. Great video as always.
"Once the fire alarm sounds, the pilots have about 17 minutes to get the aircraft to the ground or the fire does that for them" - so dark and so true X)
Just imagine that feeling, you're 1000 feet above the ground, in an uncontrollable descent, you're alive, but you know that you're going to die, you'd be mentally destroyed, and I can't imagine how the co pilot felt during the final moments - R.I.P to both pilots, you will both be remembered.
I felt sorry for the crew of flight 6. They were wonderful to try and do a big workload, but failed in the end. RIP pilots of flight 6. Great video as always!
Thank you for sharing your insight into this case. I remember mentour pilot covering this incident about a year ago. Truly heart breaking. I only wish the pilots knew how much respect they would earn for their bravery that night. They never gave up in that terrifying situation.
@@juliemanarin4127 it may not have made a difference, since they weren't as familiar with Doha as Dubai, they may have overflown it and not saved any time anyway, the captain's oxygen failed well before they would've made it to Doha as well.
Your video production and narration is outstanding. I had forgotten the outcome of this event, therefore your presentation had me on the edge of my seat.
Ups 6 is one of my horror crashes that makes me feel a little sick to hear about, along with the aeroflot one. I would have a complete meltdown in a situation like that
@@EneTheGene 593. And I just checked the list of aeroflot crashes to find it, and jesus that is a very fair question. Can they stop crashing for 5 mins?
I’d heard about this one before, Mentour Pilot covered it and I watched it with growing horror and dying hopes. But I took the time to learn and remember his name. I’m sorry Matthew Bell, I’m so sorry. I wish you could have saved yourself and your captain.
I gotta say....I appreciate how your videos end with what was learned from the accident in order to try to prevent it from happening again. Easy to just talk about the disaster itself but equally as important to show how we improved from it.
This one was intense.. had to pause for a bit and come back to it later. That’s how good your videos are. I had a pit in my stomach the whole time, what they went through is simply unimaginable and it felt like 10000 different things went wrong. I kept wondering maybe ejector seats on these cargo planes??? If they could just ditch the plane in the ocean and escape that way.. the poor copilot struggling for his life knowing his captain likely is dead behind him… I just kept hoping something would go their way
The captain should have continued to Dubai. He almost seemed nonchalant about the fire in the beginning. Were I the captain, the instant I see an alert for fire, I am immediately landing the plane. The plane had no redundancies built in. There was no separation between the cockpit and the cabin.
I'm physically and mentally drained after this. Poor bugger, God bless both the Captain and 1st Officer. Those Lithium batteries are nearly impossible to extinguish.
Such a sad story, everything that could go wrong went wrong, the situation getting worse by the minute and finally crashing a few 100m from the airport. I'm really impressed by the way you tell these stories btw. It really puts the viewer into the pilot"'s position and provides enough technical details without dropping the tension of the story. I see 1M subs coming up real soon, keep it up!
As soon as the auto-land was mentioned I considered how risky that seemed to those on the ground. It obviously was a huge risk. BTW, congrats on the 100k.
my heart goes out to that F/O for his bravery and determination. its sad to hear that despite everything he tried it just wasnt enough. if anyone deserved to walk away from a crash like this it was him no doubt about it. the world needs more courage like his and to be capable of keeping a leveled head all throughout this horrible event.
I work at Amazon and anything to do with lithium batteries is taken deadly seriously due to this. If a package has lithium batteries in it, it has to have a large warning label put on it clearly stating that and the package chutes that are for the Amazon delivery planes has several warnings on them stating not to mix it with regular mail and that packages with lithium batteries are prohibited. When you get trained for packing, they make it very clear that if a lithium battery got on a plane, it could go very, very badly which is why the labels are so important.
It's hard to imagine a lonelier, bleaker, more tortuous end to a life, than the First Officer endured. If his predicament trapped inside a burning plane weren't horrific enough, he lost his colleague and companion in the crisis, and was unable even to speak direct to air traffic control. Of the two men, the Captain who checked out first by succumbing to smoke inhalation, undoubtedly got the better deal. God bless those men. They combined seamlessly as a team and battled courageously to avert disaster - they could not have done any more. But it wasn't to be, their fate was sealed from take off. Life as a commercial airline pilot must have many rewards, not least its high status and salary. The odds against a crash are huge. But there's no question the risk is there. The longer a pilot's career, the higher the odds rise. I often wonder when I hear an horrific story like this, if those dedicated, (mostly) men would have chosen a different career path, had they known aviation would ultimately end their life prematurely. If only one or two factors had been different (which have been amended since, as a direct result of the tragedy), this story might have ended differently. There was no pilot error involved in this. The two men were simply sitting ducks at the mercy of circumstances that together conspired to kill them. Huge Congratulations to 'GREEN DOT AVIATION' on hitting the 100k subs milestone! The quality and originality of 'Green Dot's' flight reconstructions and analysis sets it among the best of the best flight channels. This latest video is the finest telling of this notorious and often-covered incident I've seen. Bravo - and here's to hitting the million. It's only a matter of time! PS I'm being greedy, but I'd love to see this content creator branch out into a few extended, special reports on the more controversial air disasters, perhaps including interviews with experts like David Learmount who spoke so eloquently about the 2009 Air France crash on the 2012 Channel 4 documentary 'Fatal Flight 447 - Chaos in the Cockpit'.
Whether or not I'd regret the career in the moment would moray often depend on whether my family line is secure or not. If I already had all my future kids solidly on the path to successfully forging their own families, I could easily accept my coming death (since half the reason i want to do that is so i can die with some satisfaction). ....while the further any kids of mine are from that point, the less accepting I will be of death, and the more I would regret it. .....but if I had zero descendants, I would be pretty damn mortified by the thought of it. Most people out there in the world would more or less agree with me on these points, except boomers..... Boomers are nice folks, but they're a bunch of godd@mn hedonists if we're being real....
@@ChadDidNothingWrong Well thoughts of my progeny wouldn't apply for me, since I have none! Many people are child-free, for multiple different reasons. And in an over populated world, God bless those of us who don't reproduce.
@@vito774 Because the display could be built into the dashboards they routinely scrutinise anyway and incorporated into existing fire alarm systems. Knowing exactly where a fie is and how big it is must surely be better than knowing you have z problem but not being able to define it. Also, assume a fire starts in thd cargo hold and one of the crew goes down, opens the access hatch and then briefly wonders what caused the fireball that is now racing towards him or her ....
They pretty much killed themselves by returning instead of diverting. They should have even considered ditching since the fire was clearly out of control.
Investigators weren't sure if that would have made a difference; the captain's oxygen would have already failed before getting to Doha and the control cables were already failing. Maybe it would have been enough, but it might not have been.
I have so much respect for pilots. When things go wrong there are so many things running through their heads and so many options but they want to do the right thing. One thing I have learned from watching these videos is that piloting a plane is extremely complicated. Much respect!
May the souls of the captain and the F/O rest in peace. When this accident occurred, I was living in Alain, which is about 90kms south of Minhad air base and 120kms south of Dubai. I remember my mates and I deciding to drive to the crash site to see the aircraft debris. In the end we decided not to. Hearing this accident after so many years makes me feel that we did the right thing out of respect for the departed souls on that aircraft.
That 1st Officer was a Beast, What a Hero to steer away from the people on the ground. While it is always excellent that improvements were made, this ever evolving matter of flight seems to learn best only at the cost of Human Life. This was riveting the way you explained it so a non pilot (me) could totally understand. Well Done & Congratulations! ❤👏🏻
If you'd ever told me that my favourite thing to watch would be flight sim footage of plane crashes, with commentary... I don't even have an interest in aviation, and am terrified of flying! You really do a fantastic job of bringing it to life. Does anyone remember the 90s TV show 999 Rescue? Aired in the UK, and was the best when I was about 10. This channel reminds me of that!
I’ve seen so many airline disaster stories, but this one always stands out for me! Just the utter impossibility of the task for both pilots most particularly the copilot each time I hear it! Totally alone with everything going against him I can’t even fathom his emotions! May he rest in peace along with the pilot knowing he did everything he possibly could, and avoided a worst disaster than what he experienced!
this crash just sound like a horror movie, with a pilot being alone, and being unable to see anything in front of them, even their instruments. The FO also sounds like he would be just confused and scared at the same time, with alarms blaring the whole time and just trying to get back on land to see his family again.
Soooo happy that you are past a million🙂 And yours is the only one to have reported this with keeping the image of the crew in mind.. like not highlighting their last minute follies, mistakes too much. . Also i do not recollect having watched any other documentary which has such detailed debrief of how the CO2 usage in case of lithium iin battery fires has an exact opposite effect. . The animations too were superbly done and edited👌🏽 Especially one for the one explaining the fire suppressing for lithium and the relay signals between UPS > Fly Dubai > ATC 1 > ATC2 . Hopefully the subtitles for non native speakers of English too would be incorporated in the future productions.
I accidentally punctured a laptop battery in my room, due moving something heavy onto it without realising, it almost seemed to melt the wood underneath it. Only one of the cells inside the battery3 by 3 inches in size and a couple of centimetres thick, the black acrid smoke filled my room within seconds, thankfully it was contained and it just ignited and burnt out and didn't ignite anything else. I can only imagine what pallets of the batteries burning must be like. A cargo plane without fire suppression... wow. A cost cutting exercise no doubt... Safety features like that shouldn't even be optional.
While I agree fire suppression systems should be mandatory carrying flammable cargo, no common system exists that can suppress a lithium-ion battery fire, which can resist firefighting foam and is actually fueled by fire extinguishers (as explained in the vid). It would not have saved this flight.
Im heartbroken, he fought till the last minute. The plane also did an impressive job with a raging fire on board. Hats off the both plane and pilot. RIP YOU ABSOLUTE LEGENDS❤️
With that type of cargo, only a smoke alarm😰🙉 2 lives are every bit as precious as 100 lives. That crew were so at risk before the plane ever took off. I can only imagine the absolute terror. This is gut wrenching😢😢
So much invaluable knowledge was gained from this. I’ll admit, every time I’m given this emergency during a table top or in the sim. I’ve never really given it it’s due diligence. I knew it could be dangerous, but didn’t fully grasp how dangerous until this clip. Thanks for putting this together. The lessons learned from this clip, I hope i never have to use but I feel much more confident should that moment arise.
Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers and counting! Honoured to be one of them. Milestone celebrated with a more than epic spine-chilling video. It's in a league of its own.
What a compelling and tragic account of this accident- you really did an outstanding, sensitive job. I had forgotten the outcome of this incident and so I was rooting for the first officer with all of heart- RIP to both crew members.
As soon as you said the 747 had no onboard fire suppression system on board I thought to myself why. A plane only three years old without a obvious safety system sounds not only dangerous but negligent. Also why is such a dangerous cargo allowed to be transported by plane, when there is no means of extinguishing a fire caused by lithium batteries.A heroic attempt by the F/O.
Thanks for covering this and adding your own insights. This has always been at the top of my list of most harrowing aviation tales. Having a self-fed fire onboard really is the worst case scenario for a pilot.
They were 8 minutes away from Doha - more than enough to land the plane. They didn't know the airport but if they issued "May Day" message, ATC would help them to land safely.
@@AshSibanda Another advantage of Doha is that they would not have lost communication with Bahrain ATC. And hopefully Bahrain's ATC could distinguish between smoke and fire and treated the plane as extremely critical emergency situation.
Unfortunately when it comes to fire in a cargo hold and not knowing how bad it is, it's always best to go with the choice of closest airport. I never could fathom why they were willing to go to an airport much further away when they knew there was a fire. Sadly, they paid for that decision with their lives......
@@jamiecloud1897 With all my due respect to bravery of the pilots, I can clearly see that they made two major mistakes : 1. didn't not fly to the closest airport 2. failed to fetch spare breathing kits (the captain tried but it was too late).
@@jamiecloud1897 When I was young and was involved in aviation industry I was said that the plane burns down within 9 minutes (probably a bit of exaggeration but still) and all that gonna left is turbine blades. So, irrespectively to what you are doing in the plane once you see a fire you grab a fire extinguisher and put it out. Hard and fast rule. I struggle to understand why both pilots and ATC failed to consider situation as extremely dangerous with clear signes of fire onboard.
The chemical reaction between Li and CO2 is interesting 10:15 Although we carry Halon/BCF extinguishers which are far superior in preference to CO2 extinguishers onboard aircraft, even Halon/BCF which chemically displaces oxygen has a difficult time with Li fires due to their oxygen producing self sustaining nature. That type of fire also requires rapid cooling to fully control its combustive process. Li fires burn like a blowtorch once a thermal runaway event has begun. Just a single laptop erupting into a furnace is scary enough onboard an aircraft, so entire pallet loads of the wretched things would be unbelievably destructive when considering the extreme heat and its focused intensity as they burn. It would have been like an onboard volcanic eruption. Had the pallets been further aft and directly beneath the aircraft crown, the blowtorch like effect would have compromised the flight controls and fuselage skin integrity much earlier in the flight with probable loss of the aircraft when still over water. So the actual location and subsequent impedance of the lining and upper deck floor structure bought them a great deal of time. If only the PACK 1 failure had not have occurred, and better still the earlier fire warning as allegedly exists industry wide today. Magnesium fires are another peculiar and significant challenge to extinguish due to its unique chemistry when burning. Even Halon/BCF creates an undesirable and ineffective reaction. Fortunately Magnesium is typically only more of an issue with wheel brake fires or when the metals in wheels are burning from an aviation perspective. Halon/BCF is also the agent used for engine fires and cargo hold fires. Despite it being the most effective agent across a large number of fire classifications it has some nasty environmental concerns, consequently its use is only authorised for use in aviation and possibly the maritime industry.
Crazy to think the levels of stress the FO was going through not only dealing with the unknown of a blaze approaching and his captain likely dying behind him but flying a plane without being able to see or tell his position and having to rely on a long chain of communication is so scary. I can't imagine the feeling of flying into a city completely blind knowing you have to land or kill yourself and likely many others. He did a great job the snowball was just too great RIP.
Thank you again for another excellent presentation. It was thoroughly explained and with a tone of reverence for a likely faultless and experienced crew. It must be a haunting tale for every airman knowing that one day, perhaps after two or three decades of highly professional airmanship, out of nowhere, fate deals a deadly hand. Thoughts with the families of the crew.
I knew about this incident but you managed to convey the horror and abject terror of the situation. I don't know how you do it but every time I watch one of your films ,I feel as if I've actually been on board experiencing the situation. This was just horrific. Those poor pilots. RIP ❤
As a student pilot, I read an article on in-flight fires. I think it started with a statement something like this: If you have an in-flight fire, you've lost the airplane. Save your passengers and yourself. Get the plane on the ground as fast as you can.
Harrowing, Horrific and Tragic. Those poor bloody Men. Much respect to the Crew, especially the First Officer. This video left a lump in my throat. No one should die at work. 😢
This is by far One of your Best in-depth investigation video You have created. Everything from the first minute to the Last is absolutely impeccable. The Background Music starting from 22:00 is so chilling. I forgot to breathe for a few seconds.
Excellent stuff right here. One thing I love about your channel is no spoilers. What's the point watching when the end is given away in the title? I'm glad you don't do that. Production quality is definitely on the rise, so I can see why there was extra time between this and the last upload. Keep it up brother!
I always feel bad for people lost to the open skies, but this hits a little harder as close as he was to making it. If he had had 5 minutes of visibility to land the plane, he would have made it
Please make videos on a) PIA Flight 268 crash in Nepal (1992) b) US-Bangla Airlines Flight 211 crash at Tribhuwan International Airport in Nepal (2018) c) Turkish Airlines flight TK 726 crash-land at TIA in Nepal (2015) Also, the preliminary report on the crash of Yeti Airlines flight 691 (15th Jan, 2023) has been released. I really want to hear your thoughts on it.
I have watched multiple videos about this flight as well as read quite a bit both official and other. This First Officer did an absolutely outstanding job given the circumstances. Being a pilot I can only imagine. It's a blessing no lives were lost on the ground and an absolute tragedy these pilots were killed. May they both rest in peace and their loved one's take comfort in their heroics!
i think of it this way: flight on board requires u to land at the closest airport possible. Bahrain was 100 miles away at first, while dubai was 180 miles. almost double... I'm no pilot but that's bad decision making on behalf of the captain id say, shame they both met the same fate
Why on earth did the pilot decide to turn back to the airport that was further away? The video suggests why but it still amazes me. If there is a fire on board ISTM the plane should go for the nearest airport it can land at every time (barring some extenuating circumstance). Perhaps they would not have made the closer airport either but it was their best shot. (I get the armchair quarterbacking from a non-pilot but still...)
This was heartbreaking. This was the kind of impossible scenario where the pilot shows off his his skills and ingenuity and should survive at the end. Rip
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can you please do one on National Air Cargo flight 102, after seeing the vid of the crash it would be interesting to see what happened in the cockpit, your vids are so good! so much detail and animations, thank you!
Oh man, I was wrong. I thought this is the story where the employee hijacks the cargo plane. Not the one where the guy does a "barrel roll" but another disgruntled employee
Please, talk about 9 11 and what happened to the aircraft. I was an FAA Commercial pilot on that day, living in Mountain View, California. On that day, as a pilot, I knew that the official story was false........
yes and we prosecute with charlie horses
Yes we prosecute using charlie horses
Imagine the soul crushing feeling you'd have knowing you just flew 4,000ft above the airport you were supposed to land it and now have to divert to an alternate. I was so rooting for this FO to make it back. Speechless. RIP to both pilots
Its would be impossible even if he landed. Fire was too close and smoke was too toxic. Maybe it even better that way, at least no one else got injured.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Maybe you're right, this was a tragic story
In short, it’s better to die immediately rather than waiting and knowing the impending doom.
It’s so sad though, yes I’ve heard of this accident before, and yes I knew the plane crashed somewhere in the sand near the airport, but damn I wanted the FO to make it back safely:/
@@Baneful_Royal_Belligerent thanks for telling us
Man my heart dropped when he flew over the airport. Just trying to imagine that feeling of being so close by worlds away.
That is the most heartbreaking part!
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@@KAKAMOIST what in the fuc
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Reminds me of:
Trump on Megyn Kelly - 'blood coming out of her eyes or whenever'
Can you imagine the dread the FO felt when the captain said he had no oxygen, get up from his seat and never hear from him again? The FOs plight became a thousand times more desperate in a single moment. He was truly alone.
Similar thing happened as the F/O tried to fly the aircraft in the hellish cockpit of Swissair 111 in its last minutes. There aren’t really words when one thinks of what must be going through their minds.
I don’t know how to express my feelings about Matthew Bell, other than profound sadness and sympathy. I wish he could have saved them.
I guess one solace would be that he was so busy trying to fly the plane to safety, he didn't have much time to think about his own mortality....
Would have been the greatest save in aviation history. God bless that guy.
@ spiderman into the spiderverse
I have nothing but respect for the first officer. He did an amazing job considering his dire circumstances.
Did he have a choice?
Yes, should have diverted to Bahrain.
@@EdOeuna wasn’t the FO call to turn to Dubai. But yeah, there’s no point of blaming the cap’n as well.
@@Blueclues16 - it’s up to both of them to make a decision, that’s how modern flight deck authority gradients work. Unfortunately they both laid for their mistake with their life. It is just lucky that no one on the ground was killed as well.
He did a shocking job. Basically asked to die
The first officer should have received a posthumous award for determination and bravery for his amazing effort. ✈
The captain messed up. I believe that they could have made it if he had continued on to Dubai. He should not have turned the plane around as he had to go almost twice the distance, and he wasted precious time in turning.
@@justanotherguy469 agreed
I'm not too sure. He was trying to dump fuel
This is reminiscent of the Swissair crash near Halifax. Pilots should be mandated to go to the nearest appropriate airport regardless of informational availability in cases of fire. This was a heartbreaking watch.
This crash was a very emotional experience when I first heard the details. It’s so crushing how close he was to the airport, fought to the end, but it just became insurmountable.
Thank you for pointing out that the First Officer spent the final seconds of his life, doing whatever he could, to make sure no one else on the ground got hurt during this tragic event.
It has to be a horrifying feeling to know you're going to die. I think the first officer knew it before he overflew the airport. Rest in peace to both pilots.
He apparently turned just enough before crashing to avoid an apartment building and ground casualties. This was one of the more heartbreaking ones I’ve heard about, as if they just had a little luck on their side, a plane right behind them to relay messages, able to change to the right frequency, who knows they may have survived. Awful unfair way to go
Pro tip, *you* are going to die and you now know it
@@Xvladinholy fuck that bomb dropped outa nowhere
@@camcraftandwaw6638 it did come out of nowhere!
But Xvladin isn’t wrong. Some people forget this uncomfortable truth
@@Xvladin but you dont know when
The Co-pilot faced a long, slow, inevitable death yet he fought it every inch of the way, saving countless lives on the ground. A true hero in every sense of the word.
@@gwenk.7757They also want to survive.
@@gwenk.7757 You're argument is valid. But you're disregarding the fact that Ethiopian 961 ditched at daytime. Nighttime meanwhile..... Let's just say working alone flying is just like being alone in the backrooms. Stress over the roof.
Yeah calling him a hero is ridiculous, no matter how tragic the situation or how hard he fought. I agree with gwenk. I'm not a pilot or someone who typically says things they wouldn't do but an ocean ditch would have probably been my first idea, it was probably the pilot's too. He made a few mistakes, and it's truly wild people here are calling him a hero, even calling for a posthumous award. Mindboggling.
@@lxnarr Id you have an opinion then okay. But the FO made it further than before. Even other normal pilots couldn't do it. Respect him.
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas I don't endorse his decision making in this horrible dangerous situation, and he is definitely not a hero or deserving of any of these awards the comments say he is. Sorry.
wow. at first i thought they were both dead, but with all the fighting the first officer did, i really thought he'd survive. the fear that man must have felt in his final minutes is insanely horrifying to imagine. this was all around just really sad :(
My heart sank when he tuned 195 instead of 095 because of the smoke. So sad. The first officer did an amazing job under so horrible circumstances. Such a sad accident.
As someone working for DHL Express I can sadly only confirm an accident like this is bound to happen again. Just the sheer incompetence of colleagues booking shipments with DG is mind boggeling. Luckily ground personel stops these goods very frequently. But if something can go wrong, it will eventually...
I sell lithium batteries for watches but I do not export.
do you think that implementing a lithium fire extinguisher could work considering how common this is?
What is DG? I was just wondering.
Is it always unsafe to fly lithium batteries as cargo? Should they be shipped by ships perhaps?
@@juliemanarin4127 I am not sure how they are normally exported. A fire in a ship's hold can also be catastrophic.
My mentor in aviation is a retired UPS 747 training captain. He was a part of the team at UPS that listened to the CVR. He said the F/O (Matthew Bell) never once panicked. Said is voice remained calm throughout the entire situation and he NEVER gave up flying that airplane.
Hence my conclusion that all pilots are heroes.
Except he should have evacuated down the emergency slides at Doha, Bahrain or into the Gulf.
That makes me cry...so sorry for him and the captain. He made a heroic effort for sure.
@@EdOeuna That was the captain's mistake
@@joefox9875 - it takes 2 to fly a plane.
Even if the first officer had entered the correct heading for the other airport ten miles away, it sounds as though it was unlikely that the outcome would have been different. But he did a heroic job avoiding the residential area.
For me, I cannot agree with that due to the fact that why the first officer would decide to turn off the auto pilot which resulted in diving. Otherwise, it seems of a question that if autopilot would be able to land the plane at the alternative airport.
If everything worked out, would definitely be one of the most iconic event in whole of aviation probably.
@@javkhlanariunbaatar385 That's the way the story was told, but the final report of this specific flight has no conclusives if something had or hadn't happened to the plane at the time he disconnected the autopilot. So, remember, sometimes the story told ain't the full reality of the situation. Plus this man was seeing black smoke for how long now? That could've easily been a missclick.
We was not able to see outside, it was just pure luck.
@@javkhlanariunbaatar385 As I've never been a 747 pilot fighting for my life against a fire that makes its own oxidizer, I'm not gonna armchair-quarterback the guys decisions.
Disagree
That was so intense, I actually caught myself holding my breath more than once. I already knew about this tragedy and its sad outcome, but your attention to detail and excellent story telling made it feel almost like I was there with them. The feeling was almost uncanny and I am still checking my clothes for burn marks.
One thing is for sure, I now have a far deeper understanding of how this accident happened and what must have been going through the minds of the pilots as the fire and smoke gradually deprived them of their ability to control the plane.
Well done (I think), now I am off to put my head into a bucket of cold water 🥵
It was so intense, I hope that's shepherd's pie in my knickers!
24 years flying the 747. A few years ago after that awful accident, we did simulator training simulating batteries fires on main deck. To survive such event, you need to be on the ground within 18 minutes maximum.
Your production quality is absolutely AMAZING‼️This was one of your most horrifying episodes yet. My heart goes out to those brave pilots.
Yeah, him and Mentour pilot are one of the top content creators. There is a small Chanel called three greens. His does very good videos I guess if he manages to grow a bit more will join the group
"brave pilots"
Talking like that makes it sound like they knew what would happen on that flight... Words like heroism or bravery just don't work when it comes to pilots doing their job in the name of safety. Not to take away from the crew of UPS6, what they did, the F/O especially, was nothing short of pure skill. I wouldn't throw around words like "brave" or "hero" unless smth truly like that is encountered.
@@emililiev1621 Mentour goes very in depth and you can really tell you're listening to a pilot. This channel creates fantastic narratives. Both good in different ways.
@@m.streicher8286 yes, you’re correct. That’s why I like them both
Thanks guys for pointing out Mentour pilot. Now i have a new channel to watch. 🎉
I’ve seen several accounts of this crash and they’re all gut-wrenching. For these reasons I almost didn’t watch this.
But I was almost certain that by enduring this horrific event one more time I’d learn something new in spite of all I already knew about it. And so I watched it. And I’m glad I did because I understand what happened now better than I have in the past.
It’s a train wreck. Hard to look away
Glad you learned something new! 🙏
My God. I have never been so wound up in my career as watching this. Thanks for making the video and for honoring this capable but unfortunate crew. The FO fought to the end to no avail. Great respect to both crew.
Requiscat In Pace both.
What is this I see? A fellow Assassin's Creed fan?
Thanks again for another informative video. My wife and I love to hear your voice. It's perfect for narrating. Also nice to see your face after all these videos. Thanks for the work you do - always very informative and entertaining. I thought for the narrative that these pilots might make it through. RIP to both of them and man, that First Officer did all he could. Greetings from Australia. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the kind words 🙏
Agreed a perfect narration, wonderful speaking voice, and great to see the narrator at the end.
@@GreenDotAviation Well deserved. Thank you for the amazing production and narration. Your cadence was perfect.
Yeah, he does have a very pleasant Irish lilt.
Terrifying story, I was desperately hoping for a positive outcome. RIP to both pilots.
This story always hits me hard and gives me chills, I think this crash, and the inverted Alaska Airlines crash are they most terrifying. There also was a crash where the airplane was fire and people were falling out before it crashed just short of the runway.
Yep those and germanwings stuck with me
@@CodingAbroadagreed . However Japan ( JAL ) flight 123 with 28 minutes of up & down coupled with left & right tilting it rocking is the worst for me . That nose straight up then straight down sends me to another planet . As I write this I’m thinking about the passengers on German wings watching the co- pilot banging the cockpit door . I guess it’s a tie .! Good GOD . Anyway take care . Joey in Pennsylvania
I see myself as a calm and collected person, but this situation was absolutely dire. The worrying thing is how fast the fire spread, and started to destroy the fire guard. Must have been terrifying for the first officer. Great video as always.
"Once the fire alarm sounds, the pilots have about 17 minutes to get the aircraft to the ground or the fire does that for them" - so dark and so true X)
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Or less. Valujet was down in 4 and a half minutes
Just imagine that feeling, you're 1000 feet above the ground, in an uncontrollable descent, you're alive, but you know that you're going to die, you'd be mentally destroyed, and I can't imagine how the co pilot felt during the final moments - R.I.P to both pilots, you will both be remembered.
I felt sorry for the crew of flight 6. They were wonderful to try and do a big workload, but failed in the end. RIP pilots of flight 6. Great video as always!
Thank you for sharing your insight into this case. I remember mentour pilot covering this incident about a year ago. Truly heart breaking. I only wish the pilots knew how much respect they would earn for their bravery that night. They never gave up in that terrifying situation.
I only wish they hadn't turned back to Dubai and had landed at the closer airport.
@@juliemanarin4127 it may not have made a difference, since they weren't as familiar with Doha as Dubai, they may have overflown it and not saved any time anyway, the captain's oxygen failed well before they would've made it to Doha as well.
The pilots gave a valiant effort. It was gut wrenching to watch.
How did you watch it
@FasterthanSpeed414, don't be an ass. You know darn well what the person meant. It is unnecessary.
@@FasterthanSpeed414On RUclips
Your video production and narration is outstanding. I had forgotten the outcome of this event, therefore your presentation had me on the edge of my seat.
This is so sad! He tried so hard. He was so close but yet so far!
RIP
Ups 6 is one of my horror crashes that makes me feel a little sick to hear about, along with the aeroflot one. I would have a complete meltdown in a situation like that
Which aeroflot one, if I may inquire?
@@EneTheGene 593. And I just checked the list of aeroflot crashes to find it, and jesus that is a very fair question. Can they stop crashing for 5 mins?
@@amyshaw893 Well they are a very old and very big airline :D
But yeah, they have crashed a *lot*
@@amyshaw893 I once dubbed them as Aerosplat. Yeah, they seem to have more than a fair share of incidents.
I’d heard about this one before, Mentour Pilot covered it and I watched it with growing horror and dying hopes. But I took the time to learn and remember his name.
I’m sorry Matthew Bell, I’m so sorry. I wish you could have saved yourself and your captain.
I gotta say....I appreciate how your videos end with what was learned from the accident in order to try to prevent it from happening again. Easy to just talk about the disaster itself but equally as important to show how we improved from it.
your videos are so well done, its like im watching a high production documentary, so much detail and images to help fully understand what happened
I'm glad you enjoy them! 🙏
@@GreenDotAviation We really do enjoy them...great videos...I have seen them all I think.
This one was intense.. had to pause for a bit and come back to it later. That’s how good your videos are. I had a pit in my stomach the whole time, what they went through is simply unimaginable and it felt like 10000 different things went wrong. I kept wondering maybe ejector seats on these cargo planes??? If they could just ditch the plane in the ocean and escape that way.. the poor copilot struggling for his life knowing his captain likely is dead behind him… I just kept hoping something would go their way
They fly too fast and too high of an altitude for ejector seats to work, I think. Even landing speed is questionably fast for even me as a layperson.
The captain should have continued to Dubai. He almost seemed nonchalant about the fire in the beginning. Were I the captain, the instant I see an alert for fire, I am immediately landing the plane.
The plane had no redundancies built in. There was no separation between the cockpit and the cabin.
@@mikoto7693 The People who Ejected supersonic and at a higher altuitide:
I'm physically and mentally drained after this. Poor bugger, God bless both the Captain and 1st Officer. Those Lithium batteries are nearly impossible to extinguish.
I can only imagine how he felt during the entire ordeal with how drained I am just watching this.
Such a sad story, everything that could go wrong went wrong, the situation getting worse by the minute and finally crashing a few 100m from the airport. I'm really impressed by the way you tell these stories btw. It really puts the viewer into the pilot"'s position and provides enough technical details without dropping the tension of the story. I see 1M subs coming up real soon, keep it up!
As soon as the auto-land was mentioned I considered how risky that seemed to those on the ground. It obviously was a huge risk.
BTW, congrats on the 100k.
my heart goes out to that F/O for his bravery and determination. its sad to hear that despite everything he tried it just wasnt enough. if anyone deserved to walk away from a crash like this it was him no doubt about it. the world needs more courage like his and to be capable of keeping a leveled head all throughout this horrible event.
I work at Amazon and anything to do with lithium batteries is taken deadly seriously due to this. If a package has lithium batteries in it, it has to have a large warning label put on it clearly stating that and the package chutes that are for the Amazon delivery planes has several warnings on them stating not to mix it with regular mail and that packages with lithium batteries are prohibited. When you get trained for packing, they make it very clear that if a lithium battery got on a plane, it could go very, very badly which is why the labels are so important.
Very devastating. RIP to those fine crew, who work every day to make our lives convenient.
It's hard to imagine a lonelier, bleaker, more tortuous end to a life, than the First Officer endured. If his predicament trapped inside a burning plane weren't horrific enough, he lost his colleague and companion in the crisis, and was unable even to speak direct to air traffic control. Of the two men, the Captain who checked out first by succumbing to smoke inhalation, undoubtedly got the better deal.
God bless those men. They combined seamlessly as a team and battled courageously to avert disaster - they could not have done any more. But it wasn't to be, their fate was sealed from take off.
Life as a commercial airline pilot must have many rewards, not least its high status and salary. The odds against a crash are huge. But there's no question the risk is there. The longer a pilot's career, the higher the odds rise. I often wonder when I hear an horrific story like this, if those dedicated, (mostly) men would have chosen a different career path, had they known aviation would ultimately end their life prematurely.
If only one or two factors had been different (which have been amended since, as a direct result of the tragedy), this story might have ended differently. There was no pilot error involved in this. The two men were simply sitting ducks at the mercy of circumstances that together conspired to kill them.
Huge Congratulations to 'GREEN DOT AVIATION' on hitting the 100k subs milestone! The quality and originality of 'Green Dot's' flight reconstructions and analysis sets it among the best of the best flight channels. This latest video is the finest telling of this notorious and often-covered incident I've seen. Bravo - and here's to hitting the million. It's only a matter of time!
PS I'm being greedy, but I'd love to see this content creator branch out into a few extended, special reports on the more controversial air disasters, perhaps including interviews with experts like David Learmount who spoke so eloquently about the 2009 Air France crash on the 2012 Channel 4 documentary 'Fatal Flight 447 - Chaos in the Cockpit'.
Whether or not I'd regret the career in the moment would moray often depend on whether my family line is secure or not.
If I already had all my future kids solidly on the path to successfully forging their own families, I could easily accept my coming death (since half the reason i want to do that is so i can die with some satisfaction).
....while the further any kids of mine are from that point, the less accepting I will be of death, and the more I would regret it.
.....but if I had zero descendants, I would be pretty damn mortified by the thought of it.
Most people out there in the world would more or less agree with me on these points, except boomers..... Boomers are nice folks, but they're a bunch of godd@mn hedonists if we're being real....
@@ChadDidNothingWrong Well thoughts of my progeny wouldn't apply for me, since I have none! Many people are child-free, for multiple different reasons. And in an over populated world, God bless those of us who don't reproduce.
I am always amazed that cargo aircraft do not carry internal CCTV so crews can see for themselves what is going on behind and underneath them.
great idea camera's these days soo small and light weight should havd them in every load compartments
I assume its because companies don't wanna pay for proper cable management and maintenance. So greed is to blame like always
Why? They can access the main cargo deck
@@vito774 Because the display could be built into the dashboards they routinely scrutinise anyway and incorporated into existing fire alarm systems. Knowing exactly where a fie is and how big it is must surely be better than knowing you have z problem but not being able to define it.
Also, assume a fire starts in thd cargo hold and one of the crew goes down, opens the access hatch and then briefly wonders what caused the fireball that is now racing towards him or her ....
@@thomasm1964 it doesn’t matter how big the fire is or where it’s at. Their job is to land immediately.
One of the most gut wrenching crashes in my opinion. Lithium ion batteries make me queasy - and they are everywhere!
As a pilot myself I really have nothing but respect from both the pilot and co-pilot.
Can't help to think if the Captain had go onto Doha Airport they might have been able to land the plane. 😢
They pretty much killed themselves by returning instead of diverting. They should have even considered ditching since the fire was clearly out of control.
22:30 Item 8 on the Checklist they were using.
Investigators weren't sure if that would have made a difference; the captain's oxygen would have already failed before getting to Doha and the control cables were already failing. Maybe it would have been enough, but it might not have been.
@@troodon1096 - LANSA includes ditching
@@mitseraffej5812nearest suitable airport was Doha
I have so much respect for pilots. When things go wrong there are so many things running through their heads and so many options but they want to do the right thing. One thing I have learned from watching these videos is that piloting a plane is extremely complicated. Much respect!
May the souls of the captain and the F/O rest in peace. When this accident occurred, I was living in Alain, which is about 90kms south of Minhad air base and 120kms south of Dubai. I remember my mates and I deciding to drive to the crash site to see the aircraft debris. In the end we decided not to. Hearing this accident after so many years makes me feel that we did the right thing out of respect for the departed souls on that aircraft.
That 1st Officer was a Beast, What a Hero to steer away from the people on the ground. While it is always excellent that improvements were made, this ever evolving matter of flight seems to learn best only at the cost of Human Life. This was riveting the way you explained it so a non pilot (me) could totally understand. Well Done & Congratulations! ❤👏🏻
The heading selector should have an option for audio reading of the selected heading. Same with speed and altimeter. Useful for smoke in cockpit.
RIP those brave pilots. You'll get to 1 million within 2 years. Keep going!
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And then RUclips will come up with some reason to demonitize this channel and keep the ad revenues for themselves.
Your videos keep getting better and better. Amazing job!
The FO was a hero. Salute.
If you'd ever told me that my favourite thing to watch would be flight sim footage of plane crashes, with commentary... I don't even have an interest in aviation, and am terrified of flying! You really do a fantastic job of bringing it to life.
Does anyone remember the 90s TV show 999 Rescue? Aired in the UK, and was the best when I was about 10. This channel reminds me of that!
This is the one Mayday episode that I can't watch again. It was such a horrible event. 😢 I watched this video anyway. Thanks for the video.
I’ve seen so many airline disaster stories, but this one always stands out for me! Just the utter impossibility of the task for both pilots most particularly the copilot each time I hear it! Totally alone with everything going against him I can’t even fathom his emotions! May he rest in peace along with the pilot knowing he did everything he possibly could, and avoided a worst disaster than what he experienced!
Excellent review of a hopeless situation . I hope the investigation made recommendations concerning the carrying of Lithium batteries as cargo .
The progress in quality and production value makes this channel one of the very best on youtube!
Wow that was intense. They both did so well to keep their chances alive. Great graphics, audio and narration.
Love your channel music and style, it's epic and fitting. Hope to see you at 1 mill soon!
In-flight fires really are one of the scariest things that can happen on a plane
this crash just sound like a horror movie, with a pilot being alone, and being unable to see anything in front of them, even their instruments. The FO also sounds like he would be just confused and scared at the same time, with alarms blaring the whole time and just trying to get back on land to see his family again.
That was heartbreaking. Those poor pilots doing their best only for the blaze to win the battle.
Soooo happy that you are past a million🙂
And yours is the only one to have reported this with keeping the image of the crew in mind.. like not highlighting their last minute follies, mistakes too much.
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Also i do not recollect having watched any other documentary which has such detailed debrief of how the CO2 usage in case of lithium iin battery fires has an exact opposite effect.
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The animations too were superbly done and edited👌🏽
Especially one for the one explaining the fire suppressing for lithium and the relay signals between UPS > Fly Dubai > ATC 1 > ATC2
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Hopefully the subtitles for non native speakers of English too would be incorporated in the future productions.
I accidentally punctured a laptop battery in my room, due moving something heavy onto it without realising, it almost seemed to melt the wood underneath it. Only one of the cells inside the battery3 by 3 inches in size and a couple of centimetres thick, the black acrid smoke filled my room within seconds, thankfully it was contained and it just ignited and burnt out and didn't ignite anything else. I can only imagine what pallets of the batteries burning must be like. A cargo plane without fire suppression... wow. A cost cutting exercise no doubt... Safety features like that shouldn't even be optional.
While I agree fire suppression systems should be mandatory carrying flammable cargo, no common system exists that can suppress a lithium-ion battery fire, which can resist firefighting foam and is actually fueled by fire extinguishers (as explained in the vid). It would not have saved this flight.
Would need a different suppressing gas, perhaps a specialist one exists. @@jasonzhou5783
Im heartbroken, he fought till the last minute. The plane also did an impressive job with a raging fire on board. Hats off the both plane and pilot. RIP YOU ABSOLUTE LEGENDS❤️
With that type of cargo, only a smoke alarm😰🙉 2 lives are every bit as precious as 100 lives. That crew were so at risk before the plane ever took off. I can only imagine the absolute terror. This is gut wrenching😢😢
Lithium bstteries should not be shipped by air
So much invaluable knowledge was gained from this. I’ll admit, every time I’m given this emergency during a table top or in the sim. I’ve never really given it it’s due diligence. I knew it could be dangerous, but didn’t fully grasp how dangerous until this clip. Thanks for putting this together. The lessons learned from this clip, I hope i never have to use but I feel much more confident should that moment arise.
Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers and counting!
Honoured to be one of them.
Milestone celebrated with a more than epic spine-chilling video.
It's in a league of its own.
What a compelling and tragic account of this accident- you really did an outstanding, sensitive job. I had forgotten the outcome of this incident and so I was rooting for the first officer with all of heart- RIP to both crew members.
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As soon as you said the 747 had no onboard fire suppression system on board I thought to myself why. A plane only three years old without a obvious safety system sounds not only dangerous but negligent. Also why is such a dangerous cargo allowed to be transported by plane, when there is no means of extinguishing a fire caused by lithium batteries.A heroic attempt by the F/O.
Thanks for covering this and adding your own insights. This has always been at the top of my list of most harrowing aviation tales. Having a self-fed fire onboard really is the worst case scenario for a pilot.
They were 8 minutes away from Doha - more than enough to land the plane. They didn't know the airport but if they issued "May Day" message, ATC would help them to land safely.
Exactly what I was thinking. They should’ve just landed at Doha
@@AshSibanda Another advantage of Doha is that they would not have lost communication with Bahrain ATC. And hopefully Bahrain's ATC could distinguish between smoke and fire and treated the plane as extremely critical emergency situation.
Unfortunately when it comes to fire in a cargo hold and not knowing how bad it is, it's always best to go with the choice of closest airport. I never could fathom why they were willing to go to an airport much further away when they knew there was a fire. Sadly, they paid for that decision with their lives......
@@jamiecloud1897 With all my due respect to bravery of the pilots, I can clearly see that they made two major mistakes : 1. didn't not fly to the closest airport 2. failed to fetch spare breathing kits (the captain tried but it was too late).
@@jamiecloud1897 When I was young and was involved in aviation industry I was said that the plane burns down within 9 minutes (probably a bit of exaggeration but still) and all that gonna left is turbine blades. So, irrespectively to what you are doing in the plane once you see a fire you grab a fire extinguisher and put it out. Hard and fast rule. I struggle to understand why both pilots and ATC failed to consider situation as extremely dangerous with clear signes of fire onboard.
I knew how this ended but I still rooted for the first officer. I hate it when this happens. Such an unfortunate situation.
I'm at 19:50 and I'm not entirely sure what's gonna happen to these guys. What a fantastic video.
RIP was really holding out hope.
"Helpfully labelled..." You have no idea how much little bits of humour like this add to your presentation. Wonderful work!
The chemical reaction between Li and CO2 is interesting 10:15 Although we carry Halon/BCF extinguishers which are far superior in preference to CO2 extinguishers onboard aircraft, even Halon/BCF which chemically displaces oxygen has a difficult time with Li fires due to their oxygen producing self sustaining nature. That type of fire also requires rapid cooling to fully control its combustive process.
Li fires burn like a blowtorch once a thermal runaway event has begun. Just a single laptop erupting into a furnace is scary enough onboard an aircraft, so entire pallet loads of the wretched things would be unbelievably destructive when considering the extreme heat and its focused intensity as they burn. It would have been like an onboard volcanic eruption.
Had the pallets been further aft and directly beneath the aircraft crown, the blowtorch like effect would have compromised the flight controls and fuselage skin integrity much earlier in the flight with probable loss of the aircraft when still over water. So the actual location and subsequent impedance of the lining and upper deck floor structure bought them a great deal of time.
If only the PACK 1 failure had not have occurred, and better still the earlier fire warning as allegedly exists industry wide today.
Magnesium fires are another peculiar and significant challenge to extinguish due to its unique chemistry when burning. Even Halon/BCF creates an undesirable and ineffective reaction. Fortunately Magnesium is typically only more of an issue with wheel brake fires or when the metals in wheels are burning from an aviation perspective.
Halon/BCF is also the agent used for engine fires and cargo hold fires. Despite it being the most effective agent across a large number of fire classifications it has some nasty environmental concerns, consequently its use is only authorised for use in aviation and possibly the maritime industry.
Crazy to think the levels of stress the FO was going through not only dealing with the unknown of a blaze approaching and his captain likely dying behind him but flying a plane without being able to see or tell his position and having to rely on a long chain of communication is so scary. I can't imagine the feeling of flying into a city completely blind knowing you have to land or kill yourself and likely many others. He did a great job the snowball was just too great RIP.
Thank you again for another excellent presentation. It was thoroughly explained and with a tone of reverence for a likely faultless and experienced crew.
It must be a haunting tale for every airman knowing that one day, perhaps after two or three decades of highly professional airmanship, out of nowhere, fate deals a deadly hand.
Thoughts with the families of the crew.
Congrats on getting the youtube plaque!
Great channel, best one out there of this type of content.
Love from Liverpool.
Thank you ❤️ Hello from across the Irish sea
I knew about this incident but you managed to convey the horror and abject terror of the situation.
I don't know how you do it but every time I watch one of your films ,I feel as if I've actually been on board experiencing the situation.
This was just horrific. Those poor pilots. RIP ❤
That was really well done! One of the best ones so far. You had me stressed practically the whole time. I feel so terrible for those pilots though.
Your videos are amazing. Keep it up! Congrats on 100K. Always looking forward to your next upload!
As a student pilot, I read an article on in-flight fires. I think it started with a statement something like this: If you have an in-flight fire, you've lost the airplane. Save your passengers and yourself. Get the plane on the ground as fast as you can.
Harrowing, Horrific and Tragic. Those poor bloody Men. Much respect to the Crew, especially the First Officer. This video left a lump in my throat. No one should die at work. 😢
Your videos are gettin better every release, its been fantastic watching your channel grow
Thanks so much! ❤
This is by far One of your Best in-depth investigation video You have created. Everything from the first minute to the Last is absolutely impeccable.
The Background Music starting from 22:00 is so chilling. I forgot to breathe for a few seconds.
Excellent stuff right here. One thing I love about your channel is no spoilers. What's the point watching when the end is given away in the title? I'm glad you don't do that. Production quality is definitely on the rise, so I can see why there was extra time between this and the last upload. Keep it up brother!
As sad as the story is, the video is beautifully made. No nonsense music at the end clearly depicts the seriousness and respect for the pilots.
I always feel bad for people lost to the open skies, but this hits a little harder as close as he was to making it. If he had had 5 minutes of visibility to land the plane, he would have made it
Sad story but beautifully presented.
Please make videos on
a) PIA Flight 268 crash in Nepal (1992)
b) US-Bangla Airlines Flight 211 crash at Tribhuwan International Airport in Nepal (2018)
c) Turkish Airlines flight TK 726 crash-land at TIA in Nepal (2015)
Also, the preliminary report on the crash of Yeti Airlines flight 691 (15th Jan, 2023) has been released. I really want to hear your thoughts on it.
I have watched multiple videos about this flight as well as read quite a bit both official and other. This First Officer did an absolutely outstanding job given the circumstances. Being a pilot I can only imagine. It's a blessing no lives were lost on the ground and an absolute tragedy these pilots were killed. May they both rest in peace and their loved one's take comfort in their heroics!
What can i say, once again outstanding video quality
This is one of THE VERY BEST videos and narrations EVER
i think of it this way: flight on board requires u to land at the closest airport possible. Bahrain was 100 miles away at first, while dubai was 180 miles. almost double... I'm no pilot but that's bad decision making on behalf of the captain id say, shame they both met the same fate
The way you explain things is just unmatchable. I love all your videos. Thanks a lot for making the youtube more interesting. ❤😊
Why on earth did the pilot decide to turn back to the airport that was further away? The video suggests why but it still amazes me. If there is a fire on board ISTM the plane should go for the nearest airport it can land at every time (barring some extenuating circumstance). Perhaps they would not have made the closer airport either but it was their best shot. (I get the armchair quarterbacking from a non-pilot but still...)
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This was heartbreaking. This was the kind of impossible scenario where the pilot shows off his his skills and ingenuity and should survive at the end. Rip