Ep 287: Dr. Jagman Gurung | Kirat History, Newars, Monarchy | Sushant Pradhan Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025

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  • @anishghimire5988
    @anishghimire5988 6 месяцев назад +56

    Best thing about him is he speaks without hesitation. He doesn't speak in diplomatic language to please some groups or ideologies. He speaks what he knows.

  • @yagyashakya8802
    @yagyashakya8802 6 месяцев назад +23

    यति धेरै कुरा जानकारी लिने माैका दिनु भएकाेमा श्रद्वय संस्कृतविद गुरू जगमान गुरूलाई साधुवाद छ । साथै कार्यक्रम प्रस्ताेता ज्युलाई पनि धेरै धेरै धन्यवाद ।

  • @roshanshah6209
    @roshanshah6209 6 месяцев назад +143

    One and only Nepalipodcast which talks about knowledge , information, history, work , real politics…. Hats off for sushant pradhan…

  • @aashish2216
    @aashish2216 6 месяцев назад +26

    I guess he is the one of most renowned person to know nepal and tantra ! I would like to see next episode with him

  • @chancepaayokigarchha3663
    @chancepaayokigarchha3663 6 месяцев назад +9

    Dr. Jagman Gurung...!! The most intellectual person of Nepal.

  • @rameshbista6016
    @rameshbista6016 6 месяцев назад +12

    जगमान गुरुङ प्रखर विद्वान बाट धेरै राम्रा कुरार इतिहास को ज्ञान सुन्नपाइयो ।दुबै जनालाइ धेरै धन्यवाद ।

  • @thedangolfamily
    @thedangolfamily 6 месяцев назад +27

    सस्कृतीबिद डा. जगमान गुरुङ जसले धर्म र सस्कृतिको अन्तरबार्ता गरेर अभिलेख सङ्ग्रह गर्नु अपरिहार्य छ, प्रखर विद्वान बाट धेरै राम्रा कुरा र इतिहास को ज्ञान सुन्नपाइयो, प्रखर विद्वान बाट धेरै राम्रा कुरा र इतिहास को ज्ञान सुन्नपाइयो ! 🙏 धन्यवाद ।

    • @RSGumante
      @RSGumante 5 месяцев назад

      Bro dangol lai bhumi putra bhanera makkha bhako jasto xha

  • @ananathsapkota2032
    @ananathsapkota2032 5 месяцев назад +5

    डा,जगमान गुरुको, सिद्धान्त र भनाईमा सत्येता र दम् छ हैँ समयछँदै सबै नागरिक निन्द्रा बाट बिऊँजिन जरुरि छ नत्र आफ्नो अस्तित्व गुमाउन् र बिदेशीको गुलामी गर्न तयार हुनुहोस् सबै नागरिक हरु चेतना भया

  • @princemaharjan5315
    @princemaharjan5315 6 месяцев назад +12

    His potentency hasn't been explored yet ..
    He's a wide ocean of knowledge .. i would like to request you to make hiss call for tantric podcasts coz He's the one who can outtell every one abot tantra in deep ..
    Tantra .
    Tantra

  • @rakeshmanandhar1815
    @rakeshmanandhar1815 6 месяцев назад +7

    आदरणीय डा जगमान गुरुङ प्रति नमन💐🙏💐नेपाल का संस्कृतिविद् तथा ईतिहास विद जिवित ईतिहास प्रति फेरिपनि आमनेपाली जनताकाे तर्फबाट💐🙏💐 नमन

  • @ramgurung8516
    @ramgurung8516 6 месяцев назад +20

    जयि सुने पनि सुनौं सुनौ लाग्ने guest ल्याउनु भएकोमा host लाई धन्यवाद।❤👍️

  • @tankalimbu4808
    @tankalimbu4808 4 месяца назад +7

    जगत मान गुरुले लिम्बुवानको इतिहास याक्थुङ लिम्बुको मुन्धुम भुगोलको बरेमा अनबिग्य देखियो

  • @sushilghimire6944
    @sushilghimire6944 6 месяцев назад +77

    आज पाहुना चै चिनेरै ल्याको देखियो। सस्कृतीबिद डा जगमान गुरुङ जसले धर्म र सस्कृतिको बारेमा यति ज्ञान राख्नुहुन्छ कि उहाँ संग धेरै अन्तरबार्ता गरेर अभिलेख सङ्ग्रह गर्नु अपरिहार्य छ।

    • @YonjanRaja
      @YonjanRaja 6 месяцев назад +7

      😂😂😂😂😂😂टपरे को झोले हो केही थाहा छैन ! चन्दने हो गुरुङ भन्दानि😁😁😁

    • @GreenMile99-es4kn
      @GreenMile99-es4kn 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@YonjanRajatai bhotay le mannay Buddha ne Hindu nai thyo ne 😅

    • @NiranjanMalakar
      @NiranjanMalakar 6 месяцев назад +3

      He explain totally wrong about Sur and Asur. He just explains according to sankrit language but we have to go beyond sanskrit language to Pali Prakrit language. Listen to Linguist Rajendra Prashad Singh. According to him, ashu means means pragya/knowledge in Pali Prakrit language. Ashur means Pragyani/ Knowledgeable person.

    • @alishbista1748
      @alishbista1748 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@NiranjanMalakar bhai rajendra parsad singh vhai kailay bata linguist bhaye? 😂

    • @rajibchitrakar2679
      @rajibchitrakar2679 5 месяцев назад

      @@NiranjanMalakar lato desh ma gado tanneri vaneko yehi ho.

  • @GangaSapkota-n8f
    @GangaSapkota-n8f 6 месяцев назад +10

    सुसान्त प्रधान जी लाई दौरा शुरुवाल अत्यन्त राम्रो शुहाउदो रहेछ, कृपया आगामी सबै कार्यक्रममा दौरा शुरुवाल लगाएर आउनुहोस।
    हार्दिक अनुरोध।

  • @Chillvibe9
    @Chillvibe9 6 месяцев назад +17

    Thank you Sushant bringing Dr Jagman Gurung… Uha ko naam lida pani ma garva mahasus garchu….. thank you ton again

  • @ashishrai1076
    @ashishrai1076 6 месяцев назад +22

    रमाईलो लाग्यो बाजे संगको पोडकास्ट, जय जय माँ कामाख्या, जय श्री काल भैरव, जय नेपाल

    • @exodus_np
      @exodus_np 6 месяцев назад +1

      Jai Kamrupa Kamakhya, Jai Shri Bhairav Baba, Jai Nepal 🔱

    • @mukpagrg5426
      @mukpagrg5426 6 месяцев назад

      Dhoti

    • @exodus_np
      @exodus_np 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@mukpagrg5426 ta muji tibetian bhote

    • @shebarana7604
      @shebarana7604 2 месяца назад

      Very interesting! Please change your voice tone, you sound not interested and unfriendly.

  • @suzanranjitkar1504
    @suzanranjitkar1504 6 месяцев назад +6

    दर्शन गुरु धेरै इच्छा , चाहना थ्यो गुरु लाई podcast पाहुना मा हेर्ने पूरा भयो 🙏

  • @keepfightinggg3904
    @keepfightinggg3904 6 месяцев назад +11

    This podcast was like touching the titles. Please bring him again and elaborate about our ancient history.More ancients and untouched topics can be extracted from him.

    • @mukpagrg5426
      @mukpagrg5426 6 месяцев назад

      Manang,mustang pokhara lamjung bhote bhasa sanga mildo juldo huncha Gurung bhasa arkai huncha har regions ma. Pokharama bhote camp chha teha gayera sabdako artha try gara

  • @roshanayer3795
    @roshanayer3795 6 месяцев назад +9

    I personally feel so happy knowing that there are still many youths who are really interested in history ,culture, mythology, spirituality and Nationalism like myself.
    I believe we can change the things in our country for betterment and make it prosperous again by our collective effort.
    Shout out to Sushant bro, Dr. Jagman gurung and all the supporters out there, Jaya hos 🕉️.

  • @hemantthapa715
    @hemantthapa715 5 месяцев назад +8

    बुद्धिमान ब्यक्तिको शोच वास्तविक तथा प्राय सुन्दर हुन्छ। सायद जगमान गुरुङ्ग ज्युको शास्त्र अध्यनको कारणले होला कति सुन्दर र वास्तविक छ। त्यसैले अति मन पर्छ। जगमान ज्युको सर्वदा जय होस।

  • @bavitatamang6315
    @bavitatamang6315 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for inviting him. Very knowledgeable and wise attribute put together.

  • @RoshanKhadka-zj3md
    @RoshanKhadka-zj3md 24 дня назад +1

    डा.जगमान गुरुङ ज्यु लाई शाष्टाङ्ग दण्डवत प्रणाम !

  • @thapapramod5531
    @thapapramod5531 6 месяцев назад +27

    When everyone mocking him for his knowledge ask yourself what are you good at just laughing at his knowledge ?? He is pioneer of Nepal history.. yetaikai podcast ma bolaudaina he has good knowledge of culture of Nepal.

    • @ghumnajaam
      @ghumnajaam 6 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly ke ta aafai research garera bolnu haina ... Nepali le paye Indra lai ne swarga ko bayan gardinxa 😂😂

    • @pratikking2272
      @pratikking2272 6 месяцев назад +3

      Why the Indigenous Status of Limbus Should Be RevokedThe question of indigenous status in Nepal is a contentious issue shaped by historical, cultural, and political factors. The Limbus, a community claiming indigenous status, lack substantial historical and archaeological evidence to support this designation. This essay argues that the indigenous status of Limbus should be reconsidered due to their migratory history from Sichuan to Tibet and later to Nepal, lack of historical artifacts, and manipulation of documents with colonial assistance.Historical and Archaeological VoidUnlike other indigenous groups in Nepal, such as the Lepcha, Bhutia, and Newar, who possess rich historical records, architectural landmarks, and cultural artifacts dating back centuries, the Limbus lack tangible evidence of ancient settlements, palaces, temples, or significant archaeological finds that would substantiate their claim as indigenous to the region. The absence of such evidence raises doubts about their historical ties to the land compared to other established indigenous communities.Migration PatternsHistorical records indicate that the Limbus migrated from Sichuan, China, to Tibet in the 13th century, and subsequently moved to Nepal in the late 16th century. These migrations, marked by geopolitical shifts and cultural exchanges, highlight their origins outside the current borders of Nepal. Unlike indigenous groups with deep-rooted ancestral ties to the region, the Limbus' migratory history suggests a more recent arrival, challenging their claim to indigenous status based on continuous presence and cultural continuity.Colonial Influence and Fabrication of DocumentsDuring the colonial era, particularly under British rule, the Limbus reportedly fabricated documents to bolster their indigenous claims. This manipulation, facilitated by colonial authorities, enabled them to assert a historical narrative and gain recognition as indigenous in certain administrative contexts. Such historical revisionism and document forgery undermine the integrity of their indigenous status claim, especially when compared to the rigorous criteria and historical authenticity required for indigenous recognition in other regions.Contemporary Status in SikkimIn neighboring Sikkim, the Limbus have lost their tribal status, indicating a recognition shift that reflects deeper scrutiny of their indigenous claims. This precedent underscores the inconsistencies and challenges associated with defining indigenous identity solely based on self-proclaimed historical narratives and manipulated documentation.

    • @user2234yd
      @user2234yd 6 месяцев назад

      @@pratikking2272 The assertion that the indigenous status of the Limbus should be revoked due to their migratory history, lack of historical artifacts, and alleged manipulation of
      documents is contentious and not universally accepted. The topic of indigenous status in Nepal is complex and involves various historical, cultural, and political
      dimensions. Here are some key points to consider:
      1. Historical and Archaeological Evidence
      While archaeological evidence plays a crucial role in substantiating claims of indigeneity, the lack of such evidence does not necessarily invalidate the claims of a
      community. Indigenous status often also considers oral histories, cultural practices, and self-identification. The Limbus have a rich oral tradition and unique
      cultural practices that contribute to their identity.
      Historical Presence and Cultural Identity
      Oral History and Traditions: The Limbu community has a rich oral tradition, including folk tales, songs, and legends that have been passed down for generations.
      These traditions reflect the deep-rooted connection of the Limbus to their land and culture.
      Language and Script: The Limbu language, also known as "Yakthung Pan," is a Tibeto-Burman language with its own script, "Sirijonga." The existence of a distinct
      language and script is a strong indicator of a long-standing and unique cultural heritage.
      2. Migration Patterns
      Migration histories are common among many indigenous groups worldwide. The Limbus' migration from Sichuan to Tibet and eventually to Nepal does not automatically
      disqualify them from being considered indigenous to Nepal. Many indigenous groups have histories of migration and resettlement due to various factors, including
      environmental changes, conflicts, and economic opportunities.
      3. Colonial Influence and Documentation
      The claim that the Limbus manipulated documents with colonial assistance to assert their indigenous status needs substantial evidence. The colonial period was marked
      by various administrative changes and manipulations, but attributing indigenous status solely to colonial manipulation without comprehensive evidence can be misleading.
      It is essential to critically examine such claims and consider multiple sources and perspectives.
      4. Contemporary Recognition
      The Limbus are recognized as one of the indigenous nationalities (Adivasi Janajati) in Nepal by the Nepal Federation of Indigenous Nationalities (NEFIN). This
      recognition is based on various criteria, including distinct language, culture, traditional homeland, and a sense of community.
      5. Cultural and Archaeological Contributions
      Cultural Landmarks: While large archaeological monuments may not be prevalent, the Limbu community has significant cultural landmarks, including traditional Limbu
      houses, community spaces, and sacred sites. These contribute to the cultural landscape of the region.
      Festivals and Customs: Festivals such as Chasok Tangnam and unique customs like the practice of Mundhum (Limbu oral scriptures) showcase the rich cultural tapestry of
      the Limbu people.

    • @user2234yd
      @user2234yd 6 месяцев назад

      @@pratikking2272 The assertion that the indigenous status of the Limbus should be revoked due to their migratory history, lack of historical artifacts, and alleged manipulation of documents is contentious and not universally accepted. The topic of indigenous status in Nepal is complex and involves various historical, cultural, and political dimensions. Here are some key points to consider: 1. Historical and Archaeological Evidence While archaeological evidence plays a crucial role in substantiating claims of indigeneity, the lack of such evidence does not necessarily invalidate the claims of a community. Indigenous status often also considers oral histories, cultural practices, and self-identification. The Limbus have a rich oral tradition and unique cultural practices that contribute to their identity. Historical Presence and Cultural Identity Oral History and Traditions: The Limbu community has a rich oral tradition, including folk tales, songs, and legends that have been passed down for generations. These traditions reflect the deep-rooted connection of the Limbus to their land and culture. Language and Script: The Limbu language, also known as "Yakthung Pan," is a Tibeto-Burman language with its own script, "Sirijonga." The existence of a distinct language and script is a strong indicator of a long-standing and unique cultural heritage. 2. Migration Patterns Migration histories are common among many indigenous groups worldwide. The Limbus' migration from Sichuan to Tibet and eventually to Nepal does not automatically disqualify them from being considered indigenous to Nepal. Many indigenous groups have histories of migration and resettlement due to various factors, including environmental changes, conflicts, and economic opportunities. 3. Colonial Influence and Documentation The claim that the Limbus manipulated documents with colonial assistance to assert their indigenous status needs substantial evidence. The colonial period was marked by various administrative changes and manipulations, but attributing indigenous status solely to colonial manipulation without comprehensive evidence can be misleading. It is essential to critically examine such claims and consider multiple sources and perspectives. 4. Contemporary Recognition The Limbus are recognized as one of the indigenous nationalities (Adivasi Janajati) in Nepal by the Nepal Federation of Indigenous Nationalities (NEFIN). This recognition is based on various criteria, including distinct language, culture, traditional homeland, and a sense of community. 5. Cultural and Archaeological Contributions Cultural Landmarks: While large archaeological monuments may not be prevalent, the Limbu community has significant cultural landmarks, including traditional Limbu houses, community spaces, and sacred sites. These contribute to the cultural landscape of the region. Festivals and Customs: Festivals such as Chasok Tangnam and unique customs like the practice of Mundhum (Limbu oral scriptures) showcase the rich cultural tapestry of the Limbu people.

    • @rajibchitrakar2679
      @rajibchitrakar2679 5 месяцев назад +1

      If Limbus came to Nepal from Tibet in 13th century they should have brought Buddhism with them.

  • @nayanmgr6981
    @nayanmgr6981 6 месяцев назад +4

    omg he has knowledge about so many things, i genuinely believe our respected dr jagman grg has alot to offer, i have been fascinated with all this topics because he talks with so much truth and common sense. sushant jee these topics are ever green topic for your podcast. and if i were you i would have invited him for more future podcast in the topic of tantra itself and about the dev/deties and these are only one of the topics among so many topics you guys have touched upon. these type of knowledge is very rare and he seems to have a lot to share about it. jagman sir was so good in this podcast im so much attracted to his confidence with calm while speaking in these topics. it seemed to me that sushant jee was a little bit tensed through the podcast

  • @DiptiRai7
    @DiptiRai7 6 месяцев назад +3

    I started getting interested in our own history only after living an expat life in other countries and continents. This episode has been so enriching. Please continue the good work!

  • @RaiHiraKaji
    @RaiHiraKaji 6 месяцев назад +6

    (28:04) Dr. को कुरामा केही सत्य होला कि,
    अझै पनि हाम्रो किरात राईको समुदायमा शिशुहरूलाई कवाजको रुपमा बाघको दाह्रा घाँटीमा लगाउने र बाघको मासु खुवायो भने, पछी साहासी र बाघ जस्तै शक्तिशाली हुने जनविश्वास त जीवितै छ।

  • @bobbysharma132
    @bobbysharma132 6 месяцев назад +9

    Candid guest who always spreads the knowledge of our beautiful Nepali culture. Such a great heritage and wide and rich culture. What a great assimilation.
    Our Stantan culture where we accumulate all cultures to be proud Nepali where Newar offer eeg to Ganesha and bahun also pray the same idol even though in fasting without hesitation as we accept this as coexistence 🙏🏽❤️😇.

    • @NiranjanMalakar
      @NiranjanMalakar 6 месяцев назад

      It seems most of Bajrayan Buddhist's bodhisatva, Tara, avalokeswar, Dwarpal etc are/were annexed and made their oun GOD and Godesses. When we research deeply, most of Hindu God and Goddesses go to end on Bajrayan Iconography. SAD to see this truth for instance Gajamaya and Saraswati to Mayadevi, Shiva's red tread ends to Maheswar. one of Bajrayan avalokeswars etc etc.

    • @alishbista1748
      @alishbista1748 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@NiranjanMalakar lol, you basically accept everything told by the science journey.

  • @DeviGurung-sf9lt
    @DeviGurung-sf9lt 5 месяцев назад +7

    डा जगमान ज्यू ज्ञान को सागर हुन ।उहाको सम्पूर्ण कृतीहरु अभिलेखित हुनु पर्छ ।राज्यले बुज्नु पर्छ ।

  • @gundashshrestha9562
    @gundashshrestha9562 6 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent episode. This is why i follow your podcast. There should lots more things with him about Nepal history. I would like to watch another few episode with Dr. Jagman Gurung sir.

  • @razangurung3515
    @razangurung3515 6 месяцев назад +32

    Most awaited guest. I think you make couple of episodes with him.

    • @mukpagrg5426
      @mukpagrg5426 6 месяцев назад

      Manang,mustang pokhara lamjung bhote bhasa sanga mildo juldo huncha Gurung bhasa arkai huncha har regions ma. Pokhara ma bhote camp cha gayera sabdako artha try garera aau ani thaha huncha

    • @mukpagrg5426
      @mukpagrg5426 6 месяцев назад

      Manang,mustang pokhara lamjung bhote bhasa sanga mildo juldo huncha Gurung bhasa arkai huncha har regions ma. Pokharama bhote camp chha teha gayera sabdako artha try gara

    • @UshaGurung-fz4wi
      @UshaGurung-fz4wi 5 месяцев назад

      Gurung vayera Hindu rastra ko mag Ali achama lagyo

    • @RSGumante
      @RSGumante 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@mukpagrg5426point k ho bro ko?

  • @RohanKarKii
    @RohanKarKii 6 месяцев назад +2

    Powerhouse of knowledge 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @DipendraBhattarai-tp7we
    @DipendraBhattarai-tp7we 5 дней назад

    आफुले सिकेका बुझेका ज्ञान का कुरा हरु हामी माझ पुर्याएको मा धन्यवाद डा जगमान गुरुङ सर लाई सम्मान प्रकट गर्दछु 🕉️👑🇳🇵 प्रजातान्त्रिक सनातन हिन्दू बौद्धिक राज्य स्थापना को कुरा उठाउनु भएको मा स्वागत योग्य छ आजको परिवेश मा नयाँ नयाँ कुरा हरु सिक्ने मौका दिनु भयो आफ्नो जिवनको भोगाई पढाई र ध्यान आध्यात्मिक विचार ज्ञान दिनु भएको मा धन्यवाद 🙏🥀🌍

  • @chulidadanirmansewa1062
    @chulidadanirmansewa1062 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank u bhao❤❤.. For u r josh to get to know about our culture..

  • @Manlilaclub
    @Manlilaclub 6 месяцев назад +6

    ज्ञानको खानी डा० जगमान ज्यूको जय होस् !!

  • @kapilKc_short
    @kapilKc_short 6 месяцев назад +3

    Very interesting episode .i love it .guest is very talented❤❤

  • @raveenshrestha
    @raveenshrestha 6 месяцев назад +12

    Dear Sushant you are killing in, inviting such great idols. Keep it on man

  • @baghbangsikirat2545
    @baghbangsikirat2545 6 месяцев назад +20

    राईहरुको धामी नक्छो वा नाछुङ अझैपनी बाघ को रुप धारण गर्छन।

  • @kishorekc4417
    @kishorekc4417 6 дней назад

    Jyadai byapak jankari chha yogi guru Jagman sir ko. Dhanye chha, hami sanga tapai justo mahapurus hunuhunchha. Rastra le pahichan garnu parchha.

  • @sadhuramkhadka5560
    @sadhuramkhadka5560 2 месяца назад +6

    जगमान गुरुङ ज्यू नमस्कार
    हजुर ले गरेका कुरा धेरै राम्रो
    छन यि सबै जनताले बुझ्ने
    छन । हामी सबैले आफ्नो
    कम्र गर्नु पर्दछ नमस्कार।

  • @samsingh2992
    @samsingh2992 9 дней назад

    Great information, thank you very much

  • @sumanupreti1158
    @sumanupreti1158 6 месяцев назад +9

    Sir you are only my favourite podcaster ...
    I don't know how 2 hours spent already in all podcaste....
    Too the content kura hunchha ...
    Aru podcaster ko jasto lyang lyang hudaina...
    And dherai kura ko bare ma aware huinxa ....
    ❤❤❤

    • @RavishPatel-q2t
      @RavishPatel-q2t 6 месяцев назад

      How Iman Singh Chemjong Spread Hatred Against Madhesi, Lepcha, Bhutia, Khas, and Newars
      Introduction
      Iman Singh Chemjong, a contentious figure in the early 20th century, played a significant role in shaping the socio-political landscape of the Himalayan region. His actions and ideologies left a lasting impact on the ethnic and cultural dynamics of communities such as the Madhesis, Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas, and Newars. Chemjong's efforts to promote Christianity and his use of divisive tactics fostered hatred and mistrust among these groups. This essay explores how Chemjong spread animosity and division, particularly through his fabrication of the Kirat identity and derogatory terminology.
      The Fabrication of the Kirat Identity
      One of Chemjong's most notable contributions to social discord in the region was his construction of the Kirat identity. By linking the Limbus and Rais to the ancient Kirats, he attempted to create a distinct ethnic and cultural identity that would serve his broader agenda of Christianization. This fabricated identity was used to undermine and erase the historical significance of the Madhesi, Newars, and Khas people.
      Chemjong's strategy involved promoting the idea that the Kirats were the original inhabitants of the region, thereby delegitimizing the claims of other ethnic groups to the land and its history. This narrative not only served to elevate the Kirat identity but also to create a sense of alienation and resentment among other communities, particularly the Madhesis, who were portrayed as outsiders and intruders.
      Spreading Hatred Against Madhesis
      Chemjong's use of the term "Dhoti" as a derogatory label for Hindus, particularly those from the Indo-Gangetic plains, was a significant aspect of his divisive tactics. The term "Dhoti" was used to demean and humiliate the Madhesi community, fostering a sense of inferiority and alienation. This racial slur contributed to the growing animosity between the Madhesis and other ethnic groups in the region.
      By portraying the Madhesis as culturally and ethnically inferior, Chemjong aimed to marginalize them and diminish their influence. This strategy was part of a broader effort to weaken the cohesion of Hindu communities in the region and pave the way for the spread of Christianity. The stigmatization of the Madhesis had long-lasting effects, contributing to the social and political marginalization of the community.
      Division Among Lepchas, Bhutias, Magars, and Khas
      Chemjong's divisive tactics were not limited to the Madhesis. He also targeted other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Magars, and Khas. By promoting negative stereotypes and fostering inter-ethnic rivalries, he sought to create a fragmented and divided society that would be more receptive to Christianization.
      Among the Lepchas and Bhutias, Chemjong's efforts to promote the Kirat identity served to undermine their historical and cultural significance. By positioning the Kirats as the true indigenous people, he sought to delegitimize the claims of the Lepchas and Bhutias to the land and its heritage. This strategy created a sense of resentment and mistrust between these communities.
      Chemjong specifically targeted the Magar community by labeling them as refugees from Mongolia. This derogatory characterization aimed to undermine their sense of belonging and legitimacy in the region. By portraying the Magars as outsiders, Chemjong further fragmented the ethnic landscape, creating tension and division.
      Additionally, Chemjong vilified the Bhutia community, portraying them as oppressors and manipulators. By emphasizing negative stereotypes and historical grievances, he aimed to create conflict between the Bhutias and Lepchas. This strategy was designed to weaken the unity of these communities and make them more susceptible to his religious and political agenda.
      The Impact on Newars
      The Newars, with their rich cultural and historical heritage, were also targeted by Chemjong's divisive tactics. By promoting inter-group rivalries and fostering a sense of division, he sought to weaken the cohesion and unity of the Newar community. This strategy involved exploiting existing social and cultural differences and magnifying them to create conflict and discord.
      Chemjong's efforts included creating tension between the Maharjan and Shrestha sub-groups within the Newar community. By emphasizing their differences and promoting rivalry, he aimed to fragment the Newar society. This strategy was part of a broader effort to weaken Hindu communities and promote the spread of Christianity. By undermining the unity and cohesion of the Newars, he sought to create a more receptive environment for his religious and political agenda.

    • @pratikking2272
      @pratikking2272 6 месяцев назад +1

      Why the Indigenous Status of Limbus Should Be RevokedThe question of indigenous status in Nepal is a contentious issue shaped by historical, cultural, and political factors. The Limbus, a community claiming indigenous status, lack substantial historical and archaeological evidence to support this designation. This essay argues that the indigenous status of Limbus should be reconsidered due to their migratory history from Sichuan to Tibet and later to Nepal, lack of historical artifacts, and manipulation of documents with colonial assistance.Historical and Archaeological VoidUnlike other indigenous groups in Nepal, such as the Lepcha, Bhutia, and Newar, who possess rich historical records, architectural landmarks, and cultural artifacts dating back centuries, the Limbus lack tangible evidence of ancient settlements, palaces, temples, or significant archaeological finds that would substantiate their claim as indigenous to the region. The absence of such evidence raises doubts about their historical ties to the land compared to other established indigenous communities.Migration PatternsHistorical records indicate that the Limbus migrated from Sichuan, China, to Tibet in the 13th century, and subsequently moved to Nepal in the late 16th century. These migrations, marked by geopolitical shifts and cultural exchanges, highlight their origins outside the current borders of Nepal. Unlike indigenous groups with deep-rooted ancestral ties to the region, the Limbus' migratory history suggests a more recent arrival, challenging their claim to indigenous status based on continuous presence and cultural continuity.Colonial Influence and Fabrication of DocumentsDuring the colonial era, particularly under British rule, the Limbus reportedly fabricated documents to bolster their indigenous claims. This manipulation, facilitated by colonial authorities, enabled them to assert a historical narrative and gain recognition as indigenous in certain administrative contexts. Such historical revisionism and document forgery undermine the integrity of their indigenous status claim, especially when compared to the rigorous criteria and historical authenticity required for indigenous recognition in other regions.Contemporary Status in SikkimIn neighboring Sikkim, the Limbus have lost their tribal status, indicating a recognition shift that reflects deeper scrutiny of their indigenous claims. This precedent underscores the inconsistencies and challenges associated with defining indigenous identity solely based on self-proclaimed historical narratives and manipulated documentation.

  • @Padmaagrg
    @Padmaagrg 6 месяцев назад +2

    Gem of Nepali history ❤ Thank you for choosing him in this show

  • @nimoli4317
    @nimoli4317 4 месяца назад +4

    जगमान संस्कृतिको ज्ञानको भण्डार भएको सम्पत्ति हो वहाँ को ज्ञान भण्डार गरि राख्नु पर्छ पछिल्लो पुस्तालाई जानकारी को लागि आवश्यक हुन्छ ?

  • @yoggurung8831
    @yoggurung8831 6 месяцев назад +2

    Namaste deri ramro pauranik yachan lai Naman cha

  • @balrammarchaha776
    @balrammarchaha776 2 месяца назад

    धेरै राम्रो कुरा हरू सुन्न पाइयो दुबै जनालाई धेरै धेरै धन्यबाद ❤❤❤🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @Nithyakapanu
    @Nithyakapanu 6 месяцев назад +3

    Long awaited academics. His analysis is based on written n unwritten facts. Noble Gift for Nepal. A Great man. 🙏🏻

  • @Gangadahal6945
    @Gangadahal6945 2 месяца назад

    डा.जगमान गुरुङ्को ज्युको विष्लेशन असाध्यै राम्रोछ ।
    यस्तो ईतिहास विज्ञ नेपालमा पाउन दुर्लभछ ।
    राजा र रङ्कको मात्र ईतिहास विद नभै सम्पुर्ण जातजातिका साथै धर्म र संस्कृतिको पनि विद्वान हुनाले वहाँको सुखी जिवनको कामना गर्दछु।
    ॐनम:शिवाय

  • @sharmistharai5518
    @sharmistharai5518 2 месяца назад

    Great studies, knowledgeable information & analysis representing the changing time /situations !
    Hats off to Dr.Jagananman Gurung & the host 🙏👍

  • @limbutikaram
    @limbutikaram 4 месяца назад +1

    Jibit sakchhar historical ku ra prastai dinda , sapana bata big jhe jasto lagyo . Dherai Dharai sunne bujhne mauka paiyo. Pheri pani next episode herna sunna paiyos.thanks for this interesting interview with Dr Jagman.

  • @kalkalphe5960
    @kalkalphe5960 18 дней назад

    I feel so blessed when I get opportunities to hear our root, traditions, culture and origin

  • @BipinRai-nu5cc
    @BipinRai-nu5cc 5 месяцев назад +1

    Arko episodesharu ni chahiyo dai......we must know n preserve his golden lines for the betterment of our next generation n our beautiful country Nepal.....

  • @kanchansharma195
    @kanchansharma195 2 месяца назад

    Sushant dai, such a good lectural episode. Bolai rakhnu Dr. Gurung lai.

  • @musicain18
    @musicain18 4 месяца назад +1

    hats off for this podcast.

  • @reshamneupane6902
    @reshamneupane6902 4 месяца назад +7

    अति आदरणीय पूजनीय गुरुदेव डा जगमान गुरुङ ज्यू मा सादर नमस्कार।

  • @raunakbasnet7955
    @raunakbasnet7955 6 месяцев назад +2

    He is one of very knowledgeable man about history in Nepal

  • @AbhishekShahiOfficial
    @AbhishekShahiOfficial 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hi 😇 I really love the knowledge that the guest had shared in this video and I request you to please bring him back for such content. It is very essential for newer generations like us to such kind of knowledge that orient us with our history and origin please take this as an initiative to share and spread such knowledge to the younger generations like us we really don’t know our history and no reason so we are always lost and be manipulated. Thank you so much for this content and hope for such even in the future keeps smiling. 🫡☸️🤗

  • @rajbade9856
    @rajbade9856 5 месяцев назад +1

    He is the to explain historical fact about nepal.❤respect for jagman baya🙏

  • @user-ob3uc6fd3d
    @user-ob3uc6fd3d 6 месяцев назад +4

    Wow. Thanks for this great show. Can you make another show with him and discuss Newa trantrism specially of guvaju( bajracharya), achaju(karmacharya) and devaju( rajopadhyaya)

  • @kishangurung4544
    @kishangurung4544 6 месяцев назад +7

    Most awaited guest for me. Thankyou Mr. Sushant

    • @Wanggyal-zc6bk
      @Wanggyal-zc6bk 6 месяцев назад

      Me too

    • @pratikking2272
      @pratikking2272 6 месяцев назад

      Why the Indigenous Status of Limbus Should Be RevokedThe question of indigenous status in Nepal is a contentious issue shaped by historical, cultural, and political factors. The Limbus, a community claiming indigenous status, lack substantial historical and archaeological evidence to support this designation. This essay argues that the indigenous status of Limbus should be reconsidered due to their migratory history from Sichuan to Tibet and later to Nepal, lack of historical artifacts, and manipulation of documents with colonial assistance.Historical and Archaeological VoidUnlike other indigenous groups in Nepal, such as the Lepcha, Bhutia, and Newar, who possess rich historical records, architectural landmarks, and cultural artifacts dating back centuries, the Limbus lack tangible evidence of ancient settlements, palaces, temples, or significant archaeological finds that would substantiate their claim as indigenous to the region. The absence of such evidence raises doubts about their historical ties to the land compared to other established indigenous communities.Migration PatternsHistorical records indicate that the Limbus migrated from Sichuan, China, to Tibet in the 13th century, and subsequently moved to Nepal in the late 16th century. These migrations, marked by geopolitical shifts and cultural exchanges, highlight their origins outside the current borders of Nepal. Unlike indigenous groups with deep-rooted ancestral ties to the region, the Limbus' migratory history suggests a more recent arrival, challenging their claim to indigenous status based on continuous presence and cultural continuity.Colonial Influence and Fabrication of DocumentsDuring the colonial era, particularly under British rule, the Limbus reportedly fabricated documents to bolster their indigenous claims. This manipulation, facilitated by colonial authorities, enabled them to assert a historical narrative and gain recognition as indigenous in certain administrative contexts. Such historical revisionism and document forgery undermine the integrity of their indigenous status claim, especially when compared to the rigorous criteria and historical authenticity required for indigenous recognition in other regions.Contemporary Status in SikkimIn neighboring Sikkim, the Limbus have lost their tribal status, indicating a recognition shift that reflects deeper scrutiny of their indigenous claims. This precedent underscores the inconsistencies and challenges associated with defining indigenous identity solely based on self-proclaimed historical narratives and manipulated documentation.

  • @anamolkedemlimbu219
    @anamolkedemlimbu219 6 месяцев назад +7

    thank you brother one of the greatest video in my life thank you so much

  • @AlphaPro66
    @AlphaPro66 6 месяцев назад +6

    @Sushant Pradhan dai ,please ask him more about the role of Guru Macchendranath and Guru Gorakhnath in the context of Nepal in the upcoming episodes.

  • @sujankhadka8935
    @sujankhadka8935 6 месяцев назад +2

    सारै राम्रो कुरा गर्नु भो

  • @rojenrai1719
    @rojenrai1719 Месяц назад

    So much rich history and wise info loved it.

  • @Sayanie.chhetri
    @Sayanie.chhetri 6 месяцев назад +3

    Underrated pod… one day everyone will listen to your podcast

  • @sabintharuchaudhary8028
    @sabintharuchaudhary8028 4 месяца назад

    Arko episode chaiyo Dr Jagman Gurung sir sanga Sushant da, this is one of best episode ive watched

  • @sugampandit724
    @sugampandit724 4 месяца назад +1

    Namaskaar...

  • @Rahasya1008
    @Rahasya1008 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you a lot for inviting the most awaited historical person among all your episode.

  • @kesharkc2037
    @kesharkc2037 6 месяцев назад +4

    धन्यवाद जग्गान गुरुलाई

  • @himalayansam1819
    @himalayansam1819 2 месяца назад

    Thank you Pradan jee for presenting Nepal cultural and religious history.

  • @Dullalbasanta
    @Dullalbasanta 5 месяцев назад +1

    best podcast

  • @sajanmaharjan2260
    @sajanmaharjan2260 5 месяцев назад +1

    we need more of these kinda histories to be recorded

  • @chirankandel604
    @chirankandel604 3 месяца назад

    वाहा शीत धेरै ग्यान छ त्यो ज्ञान वाहा ले धेरै नै मेहनत र अध्यनले पाउनु भएको छ ।कति बर्ष यहि अध्यन मा लाग्नु भयो होला तर वाहा शीत अझ धेरै ज्ञान छ त्यो ज्ञान स्रोताले अझ पाउनु पर्छ र सुक्ष्म विषयमा सोधपुछ गर्दै त्यो ज्ञान हरेक जन्ताको माझमा जान पर्छ अनि मात्रै याहा का अनेक जाती ,धर्म ,सन्सकार जुन बिदेशीले भनेको बिना तथ्य को आधारमा हल्लाको भरमा हामिलाइ भ्रमित पार्न खोजिदै छ तिनिहरु आफै छताछुल्ल हुने छन ।जन्तानै आफ्नो धर्म,सन्सकार प्रती पुरै जानकार हुन्छ भने कुनै मुलाले यहाँ चलखेल गर्न सक्दैन र देश सुख,सान्ती तिर आफै लम्किन्छ।आफ्नो उत्पति ,आफ्नो थलो,धर्म ,रितिरिवाज वास्तवमै त्यो आफ्नो निजि ज्ञान र सम्पत्ति हो र त्यो भन्दा ठूलो सम्पत्ति अरु हुनै सक्दैन।तेति ज्ञान भएन भने एक दिन रोहोङगिया मुसलमान जस्तै हुने दिन कुनै जातिको पनि आउन सक्छ।

  • @WhitePonda
    @WhitePonda 6 месяцев назад +2

    Guru Jukman gurung derai ramro kura ra garnu bho ra najaneka kura jhana shikna paiyo❤❤❤

  • @sudiljo-c3508
    @sudiljo-c3508 6 месяцев назад +2

    Second episode of this podcast is mandatory

  • @denimgurung1726
    @denimgurung1726 6 месяцев назад +5

    My respect towards your podcast is growing 🙌 🙏
    Love and prayers from Pokhara brother Sushant 🙏

  • @dipakbaraily8004
    @dipakbaraily8004 4 месяца назад +1

    धेरै राम्राे इनटरबियु सुन्दा जागर चलेर आउने

  • @amritlge.2440
    @amritlge.2440 3 месяца назад

    धन्यवाद गुरुङ ज्यु।

  • @gurkhaliwarrior
    @gurkhaliwarrior 6 месяцев назад +2

    Lots of questions answered about History of Nepal

  • @lostdreamist3184
    @lostdreamist3184 6 месяцев назад +2

    It's really strange that Nepal history has been hidden from Nepalise . A lot of things are still hidden some of the things that has been pointed in this poadcast is only in this poadcast .
    Thank you for making these things and presiving our history. You have to make another one more poadcast with him really informal video .
    ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @sanjeevshakya1
    @sanjeevshakya1 6 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing!!!

  • @rajushrestha994
    @rajushrestha994 6 дней назад

    आहा!!! कति राम्रो।

  • @gaurabpoudel1605
    @gaurabpoudel1605 6 месяцев назад +2

    Worthy listen ❤

  • @prashantgurung3048
    @prashantgurung3048 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you @sushant for bringing one of the greatest person from Nepal.🇳🇵

  • @Er.LalitChand
    @Er.LalitChand 6 месяцев назад +2

    नमन डा. साब, सुशान्त सर🙏। Eagerly waiting

  • @nepaliinnorwaynepnor2785
    @nepaliinnorwaynepnor2785 6 месяцев назад +2

    Please bring him back.. we would like to hear more podcasts with him.

  • @bimalkhatri8395
    @bimalkhatri8395 2 месяца назад

    नमन गरे गुरु🙏🇳🇵🕉️🇳🇵🙏

  • @KhemWallingrai
    @KhemWallingrai Месяц назад +1

    कलियुगको ऋषि डा जगमान गुरुङ ज्यूले किराँतहरुको बिषयमा स बिस्तार व्याख्या गरि स्पस्त गरीदिनुभएकोमा धेरै धेरै धन्यबाद छ।

  • @IshworKhadka14
    @IshworKhadka14 6 месяцев назад +2

    Had waited for him on your podcast. Finally he is here.

  • @sagarrijal2055
    @sagarrijal2055 6 месяцев назад +4

    Wow
    One of the best guest
    🕉️

    • @cheltooktribefreethinker1028
      @cheltooktribefreethinker1028 6 месяцев назад

      Tait. This converted grg is one of the biased historians of Nepal. Was the puppet of durbar. He passed thru durbar blessing

  • @kumarrai9806
    @kumarrai9806 Месяц назад

    ❤अति राम्रो ❤कुरा ❤मलाई थाहा नभएको ❤कुरा हरु धेरै रहेछ ।

  • @prabhukafle3412
    @prabhukafle3412 6 месяцев назад +2

    Mahele yakdam respect garne Manesh ❤❤ Dr jagman ra Dr surandra CK ❤

  • @neeshamkhadka
    @neeshamkhadka 5 месяцев назад +6

    इतिहासकार jagman gurung जि ले सत्य कुरा गर्नु भयो 😊

  • @aryanpudasaini175
    @aryanpudasaini175 6 месяцев назад +2

    Satya gham jhai charlaga hunxa jaya hos gurung sir❤❤

  • @HaridasGamal
    @HaridasGamal 6 месяцев назад +4

    feri arko episode garnu hola
    दाजु व्यग्र प्रतीक्षा

  • @Rojinsen-e9r
    @Rojinsen-e9r 6 месяцев назад +2

    He is the one real nepali🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @PokhrelGopal
    @PokhrelGopal 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for invite him.❤

  • @nepotsuki6856
    @nepotsuki6856 Месяц назад

    your best podcast

  • @rabinmhrzn6459
    @rabinmhrzn6459 6 месяцев назад +4

    best one

  • @pushkalsharma1067
    @pushkalsharma1067 4 месяца назад

    Salute to you Jogman Sir.

  • @mangalshahi2427
    @mangalshahi2427 5 месяцев назад +3

    🤔🇳🇵🔱👌🫵🌹
    king is allwayes perfect divin power of Nepal...🇳🇵⚜️⚜️⚜️