Maru vs Dark TvZ - Quarterfinals - 2019 WCS Global Finals - StarCraft II

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

Комментарии • 347

  • @dreamerseas5973
    @dreamerseas5973 5 лет назад +15

    In my humble opinion - nerf queens. That’s the best way to stop this Zerg whitewash. The queen is sooo OP, they counter literally everything early game and with their transfuse they are immortal. All the Zerg player has to do to counter ANY early game pressure is build a few queens which ALSO spread creep.
    You know they’re OP when a group of hellions and a reaper are too scared to go toe-to-toe with what essentially should be a base nanny unit (34:55)

    • @standinonstilts
      @standinonstilts 5 лет назад +2

      Been saying this since they buffed it so long ago. Two queems can defend any drop. Use 4 queens to push creep and there's basically no way to stop them.

  • @CocolinoFan
    @CocolinoFan 5 лет назад +35

    Game 1: 3:13
    Game 2: 30:16
    Game 3: 44:07
    Bonus:
    Maps: 2:56

  • @nolanchristensen7214
    @nolanchristensen7214 5 лет назад +56

    Maru, only terran to make it to QUATERFINALS because he's a God but even God's can't beat zergs with the current balance

    • @nmhalumni4489
      @nmhalumni4489 5 лет назад +3

      Nolan Christensen thanks for the spoilers

    • @NeutralGenericUser
      @NeutralGenericUser 5 лет назад +12

      @@nmhalumni4489 Not much of a spoiler tbh

    • @michaelcorser4350
      @michaelcorser4350 5 лет назад +1

      Being honest, Dark is also a God that has been winning/topping tournaments since like 2015. BUT this series shouldn't have been a 3-0. That is the real disappointment.

    • @llllllllllll1106
      @llllllllllll1106 5 лет назад +1

      To be fair maru also played quite bad he used to be better at TvZ also if you look at his lasts TvZs he played way better than that..

    • @kissshawn
      @kissshawn 5 лет назад +2

      lol maru fanboys are retarded

  • @zest2932
    @zest2932 5 лет назад +25

    Zerg's instant remax is just OP.

  • @ashhall4577
    @ashhall4577 5 лет назад +78

    Zerg is so broken, you can see in games when skill level is equal that Zerg always has the upper hand in any stage of the game beyond 3 minutes.

    • @reddeatharena9218
      @reddeatharena9218 4 года назад

      Before the Zerg rush was needed they were ahead then as well

  • @beckerzineo
    @beckerzineo 5 лет назад +81

    Maru is laughing at the balancing the whole time, after game one he's like, "Why even try seriously lmao"

  • @revolutionalist
    @revolutionalist 5 лет назад +67

    The sc2 dev team has lost their minds, how stupid are they to progress at this point in blizzcon where even the Zerg players have reach a consensus that Zerg is levels above terran and protoss.

    • @ShinyKelp
      @ShinyKelp 5 лет назад +3

      Zerg's getting quite the nerf next patch tho.

    • @Papi-qd4tc
      @Papi-qd4tc 5 лет назад +18

      @@ShinyKelp A bit too late.

    • @charlestonleong5753
      @charlestonleong5753 5 лет назад +2

      @@Papi-qd4tc just in time for 2020 world series

  • @LemonRuss
    @LemonRuss 5 лет назад +156

    this game should be renamed to ZergCraft2

    • @codguy12
      @codguy12 5 лет назад +3

      No

    • @fairy7848
      @fairy7848 5 лет назад +3

      I think this clip of the game should be named Path of Zerg at the end of title.

    • @lightweightjive
      @lightweightjive 5 лет назад +10

      Ferra Torr f*ck you chump. This game sucks and I’ve been playing since before brood wars lol. I’m so sick of seeing pissant Z players win every tournament.

    • @dreamerseas5973
      @dreamerseas5973 5 лет назад +11

      You’re spot on! I’ve been watching casts for 6-7 years and 9/10 ZvTs go to the Zerg. Why won’t blizzard realise and start sensible nerfs to Zerg?

    • @SergejPoplavskij
      @SergejPoplavskij 5 лет назад +12

      Baneling must be fixed - heals points or speed. And in general. Zerg has too many abilities with striking large surfaces with huge damage. Amid the zerg’s abilities, the terran nuclear missile looks so squalid.

  • @werwftfg3123
    @werwftfg3123 5 лет назад +76

    Like what is the point of these matches when Zerg always win?

    • @zed2225
      @zed2225 5 лет назад +7

      salty terran tears brah

    • @beckerzineo
      @beckerzineo 5 лет назад +5

      @Jesus Rosendo Serral just lost to Raynor though lol
      But it is really weird the way they balance the game, you can see that Koreans are usually beast at micro and tend to have the stronger Protosses and Terrans. Foreigners (Europeans I mean) only ever had chance with Zerg. IdrA, Stephano, Scarlett, Serral and now Raynor, all the foreigners that matter at all (that can fight Koreans) are Zerg. Is a really weird tendency, and Blizzard always tended to favor Zerg in the balance, so...
      I think the even weirder thing is that foreigners only have a chance with macro, that the micro still is really bad and no Protoss or Terran here can compare to the Koreans. Wouldn't it make more sense for "worse players" to be better at "cheese", aka faster, more micro intensive early game.
      This game just doesn't make any sense really.

    • @acidosis1985
      @acidosis1985 5 лет назад +2

      It is actually a good thing, now everyone who is blind also knows how OP Zerg is. Blizzard is gonna give them the nerf hammer and then Serral and the foreign zerg are gonna disappear into obscurity and the Korean Terrans will rise again.

    • @acidosis1985
      @acidosis1985 5 лет назад

      @Jesus Rosendo Also, SC2 is popular with foreigners now. Koreans already don't care about SC2 hence the reason why they want to make a non-korean popular with all the "winnings".

    • @DarkSlayer9311
      @DarkSlayer9311 5 лет назад +1

      agreed, zerg has too many CC, skills, play style and strategies... Terran sometime still can put up a match, but protoss nowadays is just sad

  • @hhhhippo
    @hhhhippo 5 лет назад +98

    Is Dark really this much better than Maru? Nope. Even Rogue said after his match that Zerg isn't balanced.

    • @zealous944
      @zealous944 5 лет назад +1

      PREACH!

    • @llllllllllll1106
      @llllllllllll1106 5 лет назад +6

      Well to be fair this wasn't imbalance this was just maru not performing well

    • @zealous944
      @zealous944 5 лет назад +20

      even said the fact is that 5 of the quarter finalists and 3 of the semi finalists are zerg players. The numbers speak for themselves. Thats more than half with three available races.

    • @Natsukashy
      @Natsukashy 5 лет назад +23

      @Ektawan RUNGPANYARAT 17:41... Thats where i stopped watching... Not because Dark pushed into tanks, a planetary and mass bio and won with basically an A-Click (and 3 blinding clouds, to be fair), but because of the instant remax of Dark.

    • @Minkywhispers
      @Minkywhispers 5 лет назад +11

      Salty Terran Tears 😭

  • @Markfr0mCanada
    @Markfr0mCanada 5 лет назад +13

    12:38 When your date is going well.

  • @ryansteenbakkers9057
    @ryansteenbakkers9057 5 лет назад +107

    at the end of the day - Zerg always wins

  • @Yayaloy9
    @Yayaloy9 5 лет назад +28

    Ya know the result when the video is an hour long and zerg wins the first. Sad. ;-;

  • @kyleerickson5512
    @kyleerickson5512 5 лет назад +21

    There is literally nothing terran can do vs zerg except get lucky. Maru was up with army supply AND upgrades and the Zerg just right clicked into Maru's army, and won.

    • @Gnolomweb
      @Gnolomweb 5 лет назад +2

      Still watching 1st game, but Maru's herass was bad. Also, no hellbat vs mass ling?

    • @zyos11
      @zyos11 5 лет назад +4

      The main problem is, T pro players are kinda trash when compared to the best Terrans we had in 2016-17(Like Taeja at its prime).
      Look at game 2 for example, Zerg used a team comp that has not been changed in YEARS and still crushed Maru like if it was a Master player vs Diamond, on game 1 winfestors were not used, just Hydras that have finally become viable.
      Where are the drops in 2 bases while doing a hellion run by on the third?
      Or the 2 liberators harassment in 2 bases while dropping in the main?
      Pro Terran player quality went down the sink, I hardly get to see games that remind me of the good old times and is not due to the balance, is more due to the quality of this T players.

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 5 лет назад

      @@zyos11 I'm pretty confident the Maru of today could beat Taeja at his prime. Serral would destroy Taeja too.

    • @trixzify
      @trixzify 4 года назад

      @@zyos11 maru is the best terran in history

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 4 года назад

      Terran can cheese. If the zerg doesn't scout it there is a good chance. Macro game is just straight up impossible unless the zerg trolls with subpar unit compositions like ultra/lurker.

  • @5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679
    @5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679 5 лет назад +13

    39:05 pls dont nerf zerg

  • @andis.1722
    @andis.1722 5 лет назад +78

    WCS 2019 - 2 wins / 12 lose for Terran vs Zerg - Blizzard got the BalancingBlindingCloud in her brains

    • @maripage3147
      @maripage3147 5 лет назад +4

      I know this is useless but, Blizzard do not balance the whole game over the top 100 players, the game is amazigly balanced, enough that even with a 1000 games played you would not be able to know if imba or variance. One explanation: Zerg is harder to master/play but once you do it's better than the others. Starcraft is a competitive game solely based on skills stop trying to buff lack of it.

    • @tigera6
      @tigera6 5 лет назад +3

      @@maripage3147 but the thing is they did do that in the past, and they are going to do that again soon. Infested Terran is gone, Nydus Worm and Infestor will also be nerfed.

    • @schach6666
      @schach6666 5 лет назад +3

      MariPage check out the stats on aligulac. Zerg has about 53% win rate against terran and even about 55% against protoss.

    • @vaettra1589
      @vaettra1589 5 лет назад +1

      Love me the tears of the biomass!

    • @yinyi4234
      @yinyi4234 5 лет назад

      It’s easy. ZvZvZvZ 😆

  • @hugosudres7238
    @hugosudres7238 5 лет назад +13

    That second game prove that Dark is really good. Mutas where not scouted and very well used against Maru army.

  • @shohokuslamdunk
    @shohokuslamdunk 5 лет назад +13

    Maru is the best Terran in the world, the only Terran who made it to blizzcon Rd of 8. and TvZ is his best match up. Didn't look like he had a chance

  • @thnktank1
    @thnktank1 5 лет назад +16

    BC's should spawn space marines

  • @jamiebutler1762
    @jamiebutler1762 3 года назад +1

    I remember playing sc so much. I would get in my car and see scv's pass across my window. And when it was silent I would hear the sound of the mineing.

  • @ThatDanielTv
    @ThatDanielTv Месяц назад

    The stars aligned for Dark in this series!

  • @elpojoloco339
    @elpojoloco339 5 лет назад +50

    Nerf zerg pls and buff terran make terran great again we are all human

    • @Enuelle
      @Enuelle 5 лет назад +1

      Lol

    • @ongnback9914
      @ongnback9914 5 лет назад

      Make the Terran/Human great again 😂😂😂

    • @yinyi4234
      @yinyi4234 5 лет назад

      Trump ask you buff terran..

    • @2019inuyasha
      @2019inuyasha 5 лет назад

      it's change you can count on>>>

  • @panamera3359
    @panamera3359 5 лет назад +4

    big blizzard mistake, it is clear that the Zerg is not balanced, the Terra is always below the three races

  • @lovemycutebear
    @lovemycutebear 5 лет назад +12

    Blizzard should feel shameful that they made the game so imbalanced going into the WCS global finals... It's supposed to be the most exciting series possible probably except Maru vs. Serral, but it just ended quickly as expected.. The margin of error for Terrans is so small now, but the zergs are allowed to make all kinds of mistakes... My impression is that even if Maru were to play a perfect game, he would still lose... only 9000 views of this video.. GG starcraft... good luck we will still have sc3...

  • @Sirkento
    @Sirkento 5 лет назад +18

    Balance for the sake of views and game income! ZvZ is boring and has been worn out

  • @gfbox3681
    @gfbox3681 5 лет назад +67

    Another zerg won against a terran? What a surprising news!

    • @lunedefroid8817
      @lunedefroid8817 5 лет назад +4

      Thanks for a spoiler. Not that I was surprised, though.

    • @reddeatharena9218
      @reddeatharena9218 5 лет назад +1

      gfbox and its dark who known as one of the best Zerg

    • @AllThingsFascinate
      @AllThingsFascinate 4 года назад +1

      @@reddeatharena9218 You can watch the game and see the balance issues. Dark didn't do any of the things he's capable of that make him Dark, he just rolled Zerg.

    • @andreygrigorev8366
      @andreygrigorev8366 4 года назад

      he have done all the things very well, nearly ideal

  • @gabrielataylorchaves1529
    @gabrielataylorchaves1529 5 лет назад +25

    Zerg is currently SO OP.... Is sad to be Terran in these conditions...after almost 10 years, this game is far from being balanced.

    • @tagged581
      @tagged581 5 лет назад +3

      it's still the most balanced it has ever been, it's just that the zergs have units that can be very exploited in the late to supreme late game,

    • @tyson2b2t
      @tyson2b2t 5 лет назад

      @@tagged581 terran is carzy for me

    • @echommm3621
      @echommm3621 5 лет назад +1

      Did you see dark’s economy? It’s not balance salty boi, Maru never caught up.

    • @SisyphusDungball
      @SisyphusDungball 5 лет назад +1

      @@echommm3621 They each had 77 workers one even bases at one point, and w/ mules Maru's economy was better than Dark's.

    • @raimonwintzer
      @raimonwintzer 4 года назад

      Lmfao. Except that i remember that time from the game's release to about 2016 when it was literally terran and protoss win trading. Don't remember any T and P complaining then.

  • @PoeticJusticeSC
    @PoeticJusticeSC 5 лет назад +53

    Not even fun to watch when it looks this one sided.

  • @WhitePum4
    @WhitePum4 3 года назад

    Why do pros use scans to kill creep when they have starport tech. A raven costs exactly 2 scans and has extra utility and is permanent...

  • @neeksthecuz
    @neeksthecuz 5 лет назад +5

    Maru is just waiting til things are more balanced to go beast mode again. Zergs right now just have to either Nydus or wait til Brood Lord/Infestor then it’s GG. Maru knows that so he’s just playing 2018 meta builds, which with his skill, is enough to get to the WCS quarterfinals.

    • @adityarajan592
      @adityarajan592 5 лет назад

      wasn't brood lord infestor nerfed in the latest patch?

  • @juanknows9198
    @juanknows9198 5 лет назад +4

    18:24 WTF... lol that sudden burst of number of darks army..

  • @koruki
    @koruki 4 года назад

    Wait how old are these guys. Those wedding bands I spot on both of them?

  • @vingmaru4404
    @vingmaru4404 5 лет назад +6

    the nydus is definately unfair... limit the terran very few options. all other units are obsolete

    • @walden6272
      @walden6272 5 лет назад

      Nydus will be nerfed in next balance update. Cost increase and limits 1 nydus only

    • @instinctz1
      @instinctz1 5 лет назад +1

      The nydus limits terran options? The nydus is the only zerg midgame pressure that isnt straight suicide or all in. The number of possible openers terran has compared to zerg is hilarious. Furthermore its getting nerfed e different ways because all terrans know is cry cry cry.

    • @duck8280
      @duck8280 3 года назад

      @@instinctz1 bronze

  • @ongnback9914
    @ongnback9914 5 лет назад +16

    Is Dark on steroids? He destroyed my favorite player :(

    • @ThomaxVision
      @ThomaxVision 5 лет назад +12

      nah blizzard was when they made zerg.

    • @wildcat8797
      @wildcat8797 5 лет назад +1

      No, Zerg is just super OP.

    • @leonardoprada1369
      @leonardoprada1369 5 лет назад

      @@wildcat8797 I guess your are GM to talk about balance ...

    • @jimraynor1638
      @jimraynor1638 4 года назад +2

      @@leonardoprada1369 of course only expert players can talk properly about balance.
      But it seems to me that you don't have to be GM and you don't have to possess a deep knowledge of the game to have this basic feeling that maybe there is something wrong, when you see constantly many one-sided games like these.
      Maybe you don't even need to play sc2

    • @mattb6646
      @mattb6646 3 года назад

      I heard he's been taking zergtosterone

  • @DrWizzles
    @DrWizzles 5 лет назад +39

    Didn’t read the comments before watching because of trolls spoiling.
    You will never get me!

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral 5 лет назад +1

      As if it would matter, they publish the finals/quarterfinals before Ro8.... so....

    • @michaelcorser4350
      @michaelcorser4350 5 лет назад +2

      @@w8stral I dont know how WCS fans deal with this. Coming over from primarily watching GSL, the video uploads, revealing thumbnails, and general "not even bothering to upload in the correct format" is literally gross and caused me to skip a lot of matches I might've otherwise watched.

    • @mikechan2942
      @mikechan2942 5 лет назад +5

      everyone knows zerg will win

  • @samv93
    @samv93 5 лет назад

    To make zerg more balanced a few things they could do could be:
    - Overlords have less vision and speed upgrade back to 100 gas
    - Queens gain energy slower
    - Only add smaller maps to the pool
    - Less larva allowed per hatch, force out more proxy hactches and more apm on injects. Harder for zerg to remax too.
    - Short cool down to Queens transfuse.
    I personally think this would help balance zerg, What are your opinions?

    • @allydea
      @allydea 5 лет назад

      Good ideas, but none of them are addressing PvZ, except maybe the overlord changes, but do we really want to make Protoss more all-in dependent?

    • @samv93
      @samv93 5 лет назад

      I guess thats the problem with 3 races. You can't rlly nerf a race so much that it becomes bad, but how can you find the balance without hurting a race too much.
      I reckon they should program alpha star to create the ultimate balanced game. That'll shut us up xD

  • @cwjalexx
    @cwjalexx 5 лет назад +5

    @ 10:20 dark makes a pool as soon as he sees the drop. by the time his 1st pool dies his 2nd one is already like a quarter done

    • @gabydewilde
      @gabydewilde 3 года назад

      Fun stuff indeed. He makes it before the drop is picked up! After looking at it a few times I see he spots both bio balls in time then when maru combines them he knows it is a pool snipe. The extra pool is early enough to have a good amount of hp and breaks maru's flow. Insanely wp.

  • @hosackies
    @hosackies 5 лет назад +2

    If all else fails, cheese pump 100 lings in 15 seconds. There's no way the other race can produce faster than that.

  • @magi5587
    @magi5587 5 лет назад +25

    This is as enjoyable to watch as blizzards selling out gamers to the Chinese government

  • @ChristopherLMunoz
    @ChristopherLMunoz 5 лет назад +8

    Queens are more scary than a battlecruiser XD

    • @KhoaNguyen-fs6to
      @KhoaNguyen-fs6to 5 лет назад +3

      Cheap and OP. The only disadvantage is slow speed without creep. It's really balance.

    • @lordbry470
      @lordbry470 5 лет назад +1

      @@KhoaNguyen-fs6to The range and transfuse cost should be nerf imo.

    • @Maleficarum999
      @Maleficarum999 4 года назад

      @@lordbry470 with range nerf on queens you will get oracle/banshee rushes in every single game since zerg anti air comes a bit late. Do you really want go air or go home matches every single time?

  • @Makronne
    @Makronne 5 лет назад +6

    WHERE ARE THE HELLIONS ?!

    • @Makronne
      @Makronne 5 лет назад

      @Dieter Gaudlitz I think you can when you spamming siege tanks and cyclons (talking about first game)

  • @davidabeillaud5521
    @davidabeillaud5521 5 лет назад +19

    Zerg broken race

  • @matthewbaumann630
    @matthewbaumann630 5 лет назад +2

    What made Zerg "OP"? I haven't been keeping up with the patches.

    • @jasongg7327
      @jasongg7327 5 лет назад +3

      Casters and the community bitching.

    • @SisyphusDungball
      @SisyphusDungball 5 лет назад +2

      To the person above me: Kinda interesting how last year all GSL events were won by Zerg. Kinda interesting that this has never happened before.
      I think the patch after blizzcon says something:
      Broodling leash range decreased from 12 to 9
      Removed the Infested Terran ability.
      Neural Parasite range decreased from 9 to 8.
      Nydus Worm cost increased from 50/50 to 75/75.
      Summon Nydus Worm ability cooldown increased from 0 to 14.
      Nydus Network and Nydus Worm initial unload delay increased from 0.18 to 0.36.
      Nydus Network and Nydus Worm load period increased from 0.09 to 0.18.
      Nydus Network and Nydus Worm unload period increased from 0.18 to 0.36.

    • @AllThingsFascinate
      @AllThingsFascinate 4 года назад

      @@jasongg7327 Zerg spotted. OP, the way creep is working, a few issues with vipers (and some infestor), and nydus.

  • @chrisordway7950
    @chrisordway7950 5 лет назад +3

    Even Maru can't play like Maru

    • @rjsteeves
      @rjsteeves 5 лет назад

      so sad. I miss his better days

  • @emeryalbers
    @emeryalbers 4 года назад +1

    I wish I knew how to grab my whole army and hit 1 A. Such sick micro.

  • @legendmommyhangvang8268
    @legendmommyhangvang8268 5 лет назад +11

    Need marine drop pods would be op

  • @TheExtremeJoey
    @TheExtremeJoey 5 лет назад +10

    If you are Zerg and you lose, you must be pretty bad

    • @aidenwhiting5131
      @aidenwhiting5131 4 года назад +1

      Yet when the other races are good, nobody discredits the players, dark is a very good player, it wasn't all due to zerg

  • @josub3372
    @josub3372 5 лет назад +2

    Great games!

  • @toni_7035
    @toni_7035 5 лет назад +3

    I used to love watch sc2. now I just can't bother with it because of the Zerg situation.

  • @5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679
    @5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679 5 лет назад +4

    I miss the time when flash crushing zerg even in late game

    • @caloreen1992
      @caloreen1992 5 лет назад +1

      You mean those hour long mech games where he would never attack and just wait for zerg to kill themselves against static d? Wasn't that rivetting either tbh...

  • @kamasoupraliquidgourmet2753
    @kamasoupraliquidgourmet2753 5 лет назад +4

    They just have to reduce the supersized maps favoring zerg.

    • @testthewest123
      @testthewest123 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, bring back Steppes of War!

    • @AllThingsFascinate
      @AllThingsFascinate 4 года назад

      No, change the race design issues. You shouldn't have a race automatically win if the map is too large.

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 4 года назад

      The problem doesn't lie with the maps. It lies with zerg.

  • @pepelepeuf
    @pepelepeuf 4 года назад +1

    Maru 4 vs 3 Dark... GSL Super Tourneament Season 1 2020 😉

  • @basinvesting7219
    @basinvesting7219 5 лет назад +3

    If Terran or Protoss has a "GG" unit/structure like Nydus Network, or Infestors which instantly brought win rate to 90%+ in pro games, Zerg players would complain too. As of now, this ridiculousness is becoming unwatchable.

  • @alexjeezusm28
    @alexjeezusm28 5 лет назад

    I used to play this game in 2015

  • @shadesofmist9214
    @shadesofmist9214 4 года назад

    awesome matches !!!

  • @nmlsaiya
    @nmlsaiya 5 лет назад +8

    Dark didnt abuse on any of the things that many of us disucuss.. winfestors nydus etc.. so i dont know what u can possible make on them.. maybe dark is too stronk

    • @NeutralGenericUser
      @NeutralGenericUser 5 лет назад +5

      The entire race is imbalanced. Most of the games Serral won at WCS had no Infestors, Nydus, etc. Not to say Serral isn't a great player, but he's not so much better than his Terran opponents that he should be getting KO matches every time.

    • @kaarleenzz
      @kaarleenzz 5 лет назад +2

      People just like to cry about balance. Even if he would have won using only queens, people would still cry.

    • @llllllllllll1106
      @llllllllllll1106 5 лет назад

      Well he used nydus 😅 which forced 2+ tanks to be in main / base to defend it which is kinda good
      But i do agree this was more due to maru not performin well..

    • @kaarleenzz
      @kaarleenzz 5 лет назад

      @@llllllllllll1106 Same as the drop threat of terran that forces unitis / static defense on side bases.

    • @matejsmrekar1218
      @matejsmrekar1218 5 лет назад +9

      The main issue is creep spread , having 3/4 vision of the map by the 8 to 10th minute is ridiculous. Thats just maphacks implemented in a race.

  • @turquoise3679
    @turquoise3679 5 лет назад

    Hi, anyone know why Manu didn't use the 'fire bombs' he used on Serral's vipers, which is so effective for swarms? could be more effective against Dark's zerglings in game 1, He can't use marines against zerglings which can be re-spawned without cost every 30 sec or so.

  • @orange6497
    @orange6497 4 года назад

    I cant understand anything

  • @luckrevaux3999
    @luckrevaux3999 5 лет назад +1

    Maru es el Dios de los Terran...pero ni aun así con el desbalance de fuerzas que tienen los zerg....no hay posibilidades de ganar...no se que dirá alphastar

  • @jebediah4780
    @jebediah4780 5 лет назад +2

    I can't believe all of these people are complaining about balance when the skill difference is so obvious. Dark is the best player in the world right now and Maru is like what 20th? 10th? Maru failed to build a good counter to the mass ling hydra bane in the first game and just wasted all his tanks in trades. He got completely surprised by the tech change in the second game which will kill you in any matchup. Then in the final game in normal dark fashion he does an all in that killed Maru because he rushed a tier 3 capital ship to harass and then immediately followed up with wasting more units on a tank push, and failed to react quickly enough to two nydus building one after the other in his own main base. I don't know what balance you could make to change this. You people are taking sample sizes of literally 4-8 people once a year and then saying balance needs to change.

    • @ybk9698
      @ybk9698 4 года назад +1

      Who's this idiot

  • @hhhhippo
    @hhhhippo 5 лет назад +14

    Tanks need to do way more splash damage to lings.

    • @nerowolf1234
      @nerowolf1234 5 лет назад

      thats why they got hellions, they are ment to shell at the hydras and roachs, not deal with the lings :P

    • @djuraster
      @djuraster 5 лет назад +2

      "lets give zerg ravagers so they can snipe sieged tanks"

    • @heldenkatze
      @heldenkatze 5 лет назад +5

      no

    • @hhhhippo
      @hhhhippo 5 лет назад +3

      @@nerowolf1234 Tank/bio gets absolutely wrecked by ling/bane

    • @quyiter
      @quyiter 5 лет назад

      @@nerowolf1234 - when new balance patch rolls out might see some mix up with blue flame hellbats. Could make a difference.

  • @babochee
    @babochee 5 лет назад +1

    Maybe add a tier 3 upgrade that gives each terran rax a minigun that does the dps of a marine or something.

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 4 года назад

      Give terran the science vessel from broodwar with irradiate which kills lurker/broodlords/vipers/infestors with one cast and brings ultras down to 50%
      That might be a small start towards balance.

  • @leexingha
    @leexingha 5 лет назад

    game 1 is a simple battle of attrition

  • @alexanderlolillactas9843
    @alexanderlolillactas9843 5 лет назад

    Maru creo que ya pasaron sus buenos años...

  • @vietnamvodich-p1b
    @vietnamvodich-p1b 5 лет назад +5

    I want nerf zerg, holyshit

  • @jimsu2726
    @jimsu2726 5 лет назад +3

    There was a few years where Terran was simply OP, and same with Protoss, why suddenly everyone complaining about Zerg OP? PS: Dark is just very very good

    • @OOCMonster
      @OOCMonster 5 лет назад +1

      People complained about those back then. People like to complain.

    • @AllThingsFascinate
      @AllThingsFascinate 4 года назад

      "if one thing was OP, the most logical thing to do is make the other thing OP. Aiming for balance is a bad idea" - Jim Su

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 4 года назад

      Terran was op in sc2 beta and for a couple months after wings of liberty launched because the developer team had NO CLUE what they were doing. Then they hit terran with nerfs that basically took thors, reapers, bcs out of the game which plummeled terran winrates way below 50% and called it balanced. There where a couple spikes of winrates for terran over the years where the dev team again screwed up, like with the introduction of the insanely overpowered cyclones before those were nerfed too. Terran was never in a balanced state.

  • @啦啦-f4h
    @啦啦-f4h 5 лет назад +1

    why scarlet dont play...🙁

  • @mr.aiyaya1727
    @mr.aiyaya1727 5 лет назад +1

    虫族“雄霸天下”
    小马哥被虐的太惨了,好可惜,期望越大,失望越大,小马哥,下次加油!!

    • @zes3813
      @zes3813 5 лет назад

      不存在期望失望,霸不霸

  • @oscarsosa8079
    @oscarsosa8079 5 лет назад +3

    Maru better Zerg is op

  • @JL-ef7bh
    @JL-ef7bh 5 лет назад

    I really think Bio against Zerg is the worst possible unit comp at this point. Zerg can smash through bio like a sledge hammer on a glass surface.

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 4 года назад

      Mech is the only hope. I'm not gonna say mech is viable but at least there is a dream there. Bio is just suicide.

  • @VERRUCKT411
    @VERRUCKT411 5 лет назад +4

    Maru seemed really tired right ?

    • @DrUkeMusic
      @DrUkeMusic 5 лет назад

      OBJECTIF TPE 20/20 yeah. Seemed like Maru mailed this one in

    • @reloadingdontshoot1
      @reloadingdontshoot1 5 лет назад +6

      Tired of zerg being OP for sure ya

    • @michaelcorser4350
      @michaelcorser4350 5 лет назад

      As soon as his medivac movement failed to go around the tower vision in the first game (8:55), it was a fairly simple statement to say he wasn't performing his best.

  • @pablofabianramirezarias8152
    @pablofabianramirezarias8152 5 лет назад +11

    so stupides zergs.... really need nerf or buff terrans is just boring and unbalanced

  • @ngadiminsim3244
    @ngadiminsim3244 5 лет назад

    no infestor.. no infested terran... zerg still won so all the nerfs were unneseccary actually.. .

  • @TheDanielyk
    @TheDanielyk 5 лет назад +1

    Maru should left after first game, just to show to Blizzard how imbalanced is the game right now.. there is currently no terran which can beat "good" zerg player.

    • @instinctz1
      @instinctz1 5 лет назад +4

      The only game that was lost due to balance was game 1. Game 2 and 3 maru got outplayed.

    • @GBtothe3
      @GBtothe3 4 года назад

      @@instinctz1 I know this is old but did you take into consideration that in game 1 when zerg fought out of creep, sieged and spread out tanks, with great emps from ghosts, and still won those fights with about even supply that maru just became frustrated or threw him off? I mean its hard to perform well when you're doing what your supposed to be doing and it's not enough.

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 4 года назад

      He is obligated to play by contract.

  • @gndnls
    @gndnls 5 лет назад

    These fps drops/lags really sucks.

  • @lotsapoppa994
    @lotsapoppa994 5 лет назад

    i wonder how chess masters/players would do at this game

    • @poporikishin4922
      @poporikishin4922 5 лет назад

      Chess are slow phase while rts games is fast phase. Chess master dont need fast reflex while rts game need reflex to match high apm of your enemy that why esport player reflex skill and fast hand deteriorate because of aging and resign from being pro player mid 20s while chess master dont cause u only need experience and tons of knowledge and strategy and u see a lot of old chess master still compete. Except fighting game since those game is less punishable of for fast reflex but need to compensate by predicting your opponent move.

  • @Umbra_of_Emberspike
    @Umbra_of_Emberspike 4 года назад +1

    Another 3-0 Maru failure.
    NEXT!

  • @dodger5520
    @dodger5520 5 лет назад +1

    Zerg is OP. I'm playing Zerg too its really not balanced.. Terran suck now. Protoss it's getting bad. Blizzard still don't fix those problems. Keep adjusting things but most are not that much.
    Edit: TBH blizzard knows this but they are biased. That's why I know 70% zerg will be champ on tournaments. Getting boring. Soon ZvZ all the time.

  • @ThomaxVision
    @ThomaxVision 5 лет назад +5

    Zerg = higher damage low cost = win.. always.. Want to fix zerg Blizzard? Make unit cost more, like the rest terran and protoss... But don't listen to me blizzard because i am going to make a better RTS game.

  • @Redhitcz
    @Redhitcz 4 года назад

    Zerg is so OP

  • @NghiaTran-rk7lw
    @NghiaTran-rk7lw 4 года назад

    I always enjoy watching T and Z gameplay. Not a fan of P, they r not supper mobile like T or high rusher like Z at all

  • @davidandino3799
    @davidandino3799 5 лет назад

    Nate Dog is that guy.

  • @MrMaddog1278
    @MrMaddog1278 5 лет назад +1

    Zerg OP

  • @C05597641
    @C05597641 5 лет назад +11

    zerg OP

  • @wen-huanglin2828
    @wen-huanglin2828 5 лет назад

    no widow mines?

  • @ЕрнанСабри
    @ЕрнанСабри 5 лет назад +6

    So unbalanced... Make terran great again pls..

  • @WeiqiSub
    @WeiqiSub 5 лет назад

    Maps too big yea

  • @MrScottalicious
    @MrScottalicious 5 лет назад

    Maru got smoked.. too bad, I really want terran to advance

  • @amineaiffa
    @amineaiffa 5 лет назад +7

    I feel sorry for terran players lol

  • @matthewbaumann630
    @matthewbaumann630 5 лет назад

    He got the GG!!!!!

  • @OlleMattsson
    @OlleMattsson 5 лет назад

    are we sure that was maru playing, and not the alphastar terran agent?!?

  • @shadesofmist9214
    @shadesofmist9214 4 года назад

    Zerg isnt OP , you need other techniqs to win

  • @stratixfinance
    @stratixfinance 4 года назад

    My favorite two casters.

  • @christopherng5565
    @christopherng5565 5 лет назад +7

    Omg everyone whining “Zerg OP” but these games were just super standard stuff from Zerg with no broodlords-Maru was just playing way worse than he normally does and just rolling over and dying

    • @quyiter
      @quyiter 5 лет назад +2

      Maru was playing really well, but not even he can beat a Zerg past 20 minutes unless they just start throwing their army.

    • @mercurial4854
      @mercurial4854 5 лет назад +2

      Maru didn't play that bad. He stopped almost all the nyduses. The difference came when armies were traded zerg can instant remax and Terran can't. If rebuilding was equal speed, it would be very different games

  • @umarelimbaev02
    @umarelimbaev02 5 лет назад +3

    What happened to Maru? He definitely wasn't performing his best. If I didn't know that it was Maru, I would never believe this!

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 4 года назад

      He just gave up after the 1st game. He didn't see a point in playing.

  • @Xehemoth
    @Xehemoth 4 года назад

    You guys are complaining about balance, but Terran just didnt perform as well as Zerg. He got starved out.

  • @Tyranix97
    @Tyranix97 5 лет назад

    Nerf-Craft. lol. Why play Terran. Takes too long to build stuff, no good spam, no exciting build orders.

    • @standinonstilts
      @standinonstilts 5 лет назад

      Because none of that is what makes the game exciting. Zerg build orders aren't interesting either.

    • @sharkpyro93
      @sharkpyro93 5 лет назад

      @@standinonstilts there's no such thing as a zerg build order, zerg is the only race that doesn't need build orders, they are a reactive race, you just adapt on what your opponents doing

    • @standinonstilts
      @standinonstilts 5 лет назад +1

      @@sharkpyro93 that's absolutely not true

    • @sharkpyro93
      @sharkpyro93 5 лет назад

      @@standinonstilts at pro levels no one uses a build order they just do it by istinct and muscle memory, i never user build order neither and managed to get top diamond multiple times, with indeed the zergs

    • @AllThingsFascinate
      @AllThingsFascinate 4 года назад

      @@sharkpyro93 Roach/rav timings, 2 base muta, etc. There is definitely a "reactive macro" style of zerg, but saying "there are no build orders" is just silly.

  • @tatthanhphanho244
    @tatthanhphanho244 5 лет назад

    So late to watching, i wanna watching after live match 1 hour

    • @LupinLuu
      @LupinLuu 5 лет назад

      Tieng Anh nhu lo`n!

  • @jordanstewart7579
    @jordanstewart7579 5 лет назад

    Zerg is to Opie they need to Nerf it

  • @UD2
    @UD2 5 лет назад

    thx for loading the semi finals with names. I’m not gonna watch this video now