How Gucci Mane Ruined Waka Flocka's Career
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Waka Flocka Flame's career was destroyed by Gucci Mane. From being as close as brothers, to practically stealing over $20,000 a month in royalties from his music - this is the story of how Waka Flocka made the dumbest business decision he can ever make - ultimately leading to the demise of their friendship. Till this day they still haven't recovered. What happened? Let's talk about it...
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Had to reupload cause Vice had decided to take all of my money for a 20 second interview I included 🥲 learned from it... anyways hope yall enjoy this video it took so long to make! I'll probably never make a video this long ever again lmfaooo
Im glad you re uploaded it. I didn't get to finish it the first time. Thanks bro
They’re down bad rn, they need all the money they can get !
vice are vultures... should rename their company.
That's f*cked up. Sorry for the miss spell
#TogetherEvery1AchievesMore TEAM‼️
Gucci mane is a walking example of don't want no one to do better then me
My sister is the same way. She set me go to get jumped and stabbed in HER HOUSE and bully me to watch her kids!
@@daniellealvarez9522it’s crazy because I knew a homie like that we split because nigga thought he was my boss😂
@@daniellealvarez9522 Wow sounds fucked!!
@@daniellealvarez9522typical single mom torta behaviour
@@daniellealvarez9522please stay away from Her. Do U. She sees Ur greatness that's why She tries to put U down
Once he said “ I want u to be a thug n don’t rap “ Flacka should of known right there Gucci was hating
Exactly.🎯
💯💯💯
This is depressing. Gucci is a horrible person and a coward
I would write the words I want but youtube will remove them like the B A N's they are
IT BE THE CLOSEST PPL TO YOU! My own blood sister set me up to get stabbed! She is the BIGGEST hater I ever had in my life meanwhile whole time I’m watching her kids while she fkn my man and plotting on my demise! WHEN A MF ENVY YOU- BE CAREFUL!
💯💯ong I respect both but that some il I don’t want you to be on top of me type shit Waka a real nigga
1. His mom told his ass not to sign that deal.
2. Waka has a big heart.
3. When you and a homie have a falling out like that, it's best to stay on seperate paths no matter what feelings may come about.
She should've told herself not to introduce them
waka all lies ...all cap
@@TheJohnBrowningGunClub do you know him?
i know his mom@@colmekaglass9978
@@colmekaglass9978Source ”trust me bro”
Waka always had this humble, kind,loyal spirit about him ❤❤❤
Unless it came to his former wife
Exactly what I thought. @labelmeposh
Wacka still have his soul wacka won in my book💯💯
Soul???😮
Sure does
That's true a real dude ends beef Waka was being positive Gucci still on the bs let it go and let God
Loser talk
Glory amen 🙏🏿
With friends like Gucci, who needs enemies?
Word. Crazy right???
getting involved with people can end up messy, cause alot of people dont wanna communicate properly or admit fault, and it spirals like crazy. And they wonder why so many people have better friends online than they do with people in they own city imao
I ain’t got nothing but respect for Waka,loved his music in 09-012 his honesty and growth is tremendous 👏🏾
012 is crazy
@@jayprofaci3337😂😂😂😂 I just came to say this. Like what?
trash taste you weird bro
Tell me why tf I just read that O nine to O twelve…. 🤦♂️ I dunno who stupider you for typing it or me for reading that way ffs bro don’t do us like that 😂😂
Gucci "Jealous" Mane..... the kind of friend no one should want to have
Gucci wasn’t jealous flocka mom is a greedy manager and wacka is gone stand fa his momma no matter what. Situation really didn’t have nothing to do with the 2 personally
Who tf was bigger than fucking Gucci mane nigga jealous of who
U gotta be a Gucci fan to understand it was Deb
Waka mom robbed him tf u thought he was gon do
Nobody care how they get treated while they broke.
Man I loved waka, he wasn’t by any means the best , but he always hyped everyone up , and i especially loved the mixtapes with him and Gucci
If you tell someone I want to do something to become successful and they turn around and say nah u need to be a criminal they are not your friend and view you as a threat
They won't always tell you directly. They will commit crimes and pin it on you with the help of law enforcement to back up their made-up story.
That’s not what happened shut up. You thinkin like a woman, emotionally. Not logically
Exactly
Exactly!🎯I picked up on that as well Sabrina.
True
Still love how Waka dropped a tape called "I cant rap" where he actually juss droppin bars the entire time
I can’t believe Waka called himself a trash rapper he wasn’t great but I think he had potential to be
Facts same here
Like 6ix9ine but I can actually listen to him. Love their energy tho
Man that shit was trash lol it was lit but compared to good music straight hood trash. He didn’t talk about a damn thing
He's a really intelligent guy, he could have rapped any style he wanted with some practice, trap was just his ticket outta the hood.
Nah he was right.
Gucci accomplished his mission of blocking Waka from the extent of success he would’ve achieved. Pretty foul.
He also pushed a woman out of a moving car. Probably not a pleasant person to be around tbh
@@stevieoneder8091 let’s be fr. Are these not men who casually rap about murder and sms lol
Waka the realest person to ever make it as a rapper in the industry
I hated Wocka's music, but watching his interviews, seeing how he's evolved and grown, I'm a life time fan🤞🏾
You dont need enemies when you got a freind lkke Gucci. Gucci is one of those freinds that only view you as their sidekick. You can do well, but you cant do better than them. Waka has a good heart and for that he forgave Gucci but I couldn't.
It's so sad that wacka blamed himself for all those deaths 😢.. to constantly keep asking himself " what if I did this different .." 😢😢. I pray he realizes it wasn't his fault
He sacrifice one of his brothers
@@MichaelDavis-vk2nqhis lil brother got run over when they were kids, you smoking crack G
yeah he willl eventually, there is shock and remorse, which might even help him grow and put out music
but its kind of predictable, seeing a rapper in therapy like
so, how was your childhood
i never listened to my mother, it went in one year, and out the other
😢♾️♾️🙏🏿🙏🏿
@@Novi903 there there
2009 was not the prime of P Diddys career or his peak of popularity 😂
😂
What do you expect from a culture vulture?
Lmao diddys prime was in the 90’s. I remember when bad boys used to rule the airwaves.
2009 wasn’t the prime for Diddy career but that was prime Rick Ross
"they said they killed me and kidnapped my daughter i aint even got no daughter" -waka lol
They mad cus I’m a ballaaaa
Great example of when being to loyal to an un loyal mofo goes wrong
Yup he gotta stand with mama even if she is wrong😂😂.
He's not loyal to his wife so it's just well deserved karma
@@CyberMachinethat happened before and during his marriage 😅
The older I get the more I realize most of the ppl you meet are not meant to be in your life forever. I loved seeing them shine together but I’m glad that they are both in a better place
Man I met Waka back in 2012 such a real dude fr. I went on Tour across Canada with him. 💯💯 some good times fr
that $50,000 is only an advance that has to be paid back... getting less is better
Dang hella respect for waka he's one of the realest most people hold on to that hate everyone kills everyone these days for change... hella good vid u put together respect to you as well hella talented at this🤙💪🏼
This was 🔥. Hopefully ppl can learn from this. Ppl think the industry is all fun and games, it gets deeper then you can imagine. Great video 💯
No one older than 10 thinks that bs sthu
@@MissCellanious1 further more that why y'all lil 🤡 dude be getting deleted , too smart for you own good and talking reckless to the wrong ppl 💯✡️💙👐🏽
I don’t care enough either about a industry that does nothing but exploit people
I hate that Waka Flocka Flame and Gucci Mane had a falling out. It has a lot to do with Gucci Mane being jealous of his rap career. It seems like Gucci wasn’t happy for Waka. All Waka wanted from Gucci is to be happy for him. I mean they were the best of friends, so they was like Batman and Robin. Waka’s mama Deb was Gucci’s manager at that time. Both of them were never the best rappers in their prime, but they made incredible music together.
Waka mom was gucci manager , He fell out wit her first then brought situation wit Waka.
Yeah, Deb was managing Gucci’s rap career at that time. I don’t know what year exactly, but all I know was Gucci fell out with Deb first. Then, People started listening to Gucci Mane just for his mediocre lyrics and production from Lex Luger and Zaytoven. He begin working with Zaytoven for his horrible song “So Icy” with Jeezy. Did you know him and Jeezy did two songs together on the same album? The other song was Black Tee, which featured Gucci & Jeezy. Gucci Mane and Jeezy were never friends to begin with. They both hated each other for 15 years before doing Verzuz. I was never a Gucci Mane fan at all. He was the type of friend who is jealous and don’t want to see other rappers succeed like Jeezy, who also has a bad reputation in the music industry as well. Jeezy was also a jealous friend who don’t want nobody to surpass him because he wants all the money for himself like Gucci Mane.
@@blakebrown84 I think gucci turnt alot of people up that he worked with and kicked off alot of carreers......migos ,dolph, metro,Mike will made it , gucci dropped 4 mixtapes at a time when he was locked up once.
@@TcVideoHosting i don’t keep up with today’s rappers and Gucci did sign a lot of artists on his 1017 Brick Squad label. Waka happens to sign his artists to his Brick Squad Monopoly label as well. Both of them were established as rappers. Gucci Mane mixtapes were trash because most of the songs sound the same. He probably have 100 mixtapes that we don’t know about.
Gucci was never jealous of waka. He was mad at the fact waka mom stole from OJ juice. That's were the relationship went sour
How you sign a bad deal with a nicca your mom manage 🤔
lmao😂😂😂
Waka should’ve listened to his mom.
12:00 Ah man Waka walked straight into that one smh. At least he realized it later on. That loyalty and being a real nigga to yo friends shit dont mean nothing man.
For anyone in the music biz that wants to hustle their own music, stay indie. It'll pay off in the end. Labels only come at you when you're hot and the advances are terrible compared to the profits you could make with your own indie team and you keeping the masters to your work as well. Nobody understands that labels basically ruin bands and solo artists. They just suck them for what they're worth while hot, then drop them when their worth to the industry has cooled down. Id rather be an artist consistently working smaller venues and clubs for a whole career than go belly up being an arena or theater act for just a few years with all that recoup to pay back for touring and recording, and God knows what else the label wanted to sneak on the tab of that band or solo act.
They always have a few escorts to help seal the deal. It's part of the climbing the ranks starter pack. A infected hoe gotta be LinkedIn.
Being an independent artist is hard and expensive. A label won’t ruin you if you know what you’re doing.
Waka is hella underrated as a rapper niggas just ain't listening hard enough.💯💯
No he ain't bro he was his Era lil Jon even as a teen we knew waka wasn't lyrically on shit but rocked with him cuz of wop
I agree he had hella bars but for some reason mfs not smart enough to understand his genius
I never knew that all of this happened as I was in my own world, but Gucci is really childish and immature for not wanting to speak to Waka like a man and settle everything. His physical appearance has changed, but his character hasn't and that's an ugly mentality to have. At the end of the day, Waka is better off without having Gucci around. Waka is a real man and has truly grown as an individual. I used to be proud of Gucci and Keyshia, but seeing how all they care about is their image and their brand....who lies about having kids and or how many kids they have? That's stupid. Waka is an honest man and Gucci isn't - so their values already don't align.
I'm so proud of Waka! He'll continue achieving greatness.
I absolutely loved Waka from the second he dropped. I also looooved Lil Wayne’s version of Oh Let’s Do It from the No Ceilings mixtape (best Lil Wayne mixtape of all time) Waka seems like such a genuine dude. With a real heart. That’s so rare in the world of celebrities, especially the hip hop industry. I have way more respect for people who are humble, authentic, honest, and good hearted than anyone trying to act hard and flaunt whatever
Gucci wasn’t the only artist who accused Ms. Debra of that though. And he didn’t say “Ass Kept” he said ASCAP bro
She is the reason OJ Da Juiceman is locked into a lifelong deal where he doesn't get a penny from any of his music. It's appalling that some people try to defend Deb Antney when she stole from so many artists
@@honeyblunt5150 damn I didn’t know and I was BS Stan lol. Ik she’s the reason why Wak and Slim fell out with Kebo and Cap Da Prez
@SelfMadeSilu she also stole from Lil Capp "Jimmy Capp Carter" that is correct. Capp said that he was the one who wrote "O'Lets Do It" for Waka and never received songwriting credit. Kebo had beef with all of BSM (Waka, Wooh, Frenchie, etc) he was Grove Street/Hit Squad and they had a falling out with Waka's crew after the fight involving Slim Dunkin
@@honeyblunt5150yeah agreed. I think your timeline is a bit off though. Slim Dunkin asked Kebo for the fade after they had fallen out with him. Kebo said he pulled up to Debra’s house a couple time before him, Slim Dunkin, & wake had got into it. It’s probably still on the internet somewhere. He stated that Waka didn’t like how he was coming at his mom or something like that
@SelfMadeSilu you're absolutely right, I got the timeline slightly fucked because this all happened 10+ years ago
When I seen that Squidward metaphor at 10:44, I bout just lost it 🤣
Man I still love Slim Dunkin, Wak, Gucci, Derez, and the whole hitsquads music. That’s all I listened to in 8th-10th grade on top of all the other underground artist then like Rich Kids, Travis Porter, Young Thug etc
Man that was such an era wish we could go back
That hard in the paint started one of the biggest waves in LA gang culture
Love Guccis music,.. was a staple in my younger hip hop years.. never was much of a fan of Waka.. but seen Waka at a concert in a very small CT venue.. he did the whole concert from the crowd just walkie around and vibing with the whole crowd.. he definitely earned my respect that night, amazing energy!
He got the bag and walked. Smart man. Wakka
only he didnt get the bag he just didnt make a huge scene
@@balla1570he got the bag bro.. he can do a show rn overseas & get BANK like he been doing
WAKA FLOCKA A REAL LOYAL PERSON 💯💯
💯💯💯💯💪🏽
I just remember that Waka Flocka line so vividly “LOCK MY CEO UP, NOW ITS BACK TO COCA”
Waka was too loyal man. Straight up 💯
I love Lil Wayne’s version from No Ceilings mixtape:
“Lock the CEO up, and I’m the CEO, fuck!”
Waka was extremely loyal. I think gucci used to trip back then though.
Wake owns so much he’s definitely a business man now
You have to make a WEBBIE & BOOSIE Timeline. I don’t have the know how to make it. But I’ll damn sure click the like button! P.S. them boys made classic’s. Now Boosie just set on Vlad’s sofa 🛋 and get charged… Then Webbie just gone, chilling and never forgotten about.
She didn’t start managing him until after Traphouse he was still signed to Big Cat when that came out Deb came around like 2006 early 07 I think
Tru.
Fr bro don’t know what he talm bout
@@Juugrichkory facts
I wonder fast forward today with 1017 records…why are the main artist over there keep going to jail or dying on fake pills? Does Gucci mane care enough to tell these 21 year old rappers signed to his label that’s not the way to go or does he encourage his artist to be crash out boyz and make more money off them going to prison or dying?
These are grown men bro they gone do what they want to do can’t blame that shit on Gucci how you know he not tryna tell them the right thing u outside looking in
With Enchanting just passing away 😢 that may be the case . I know can’t push grown people to stop living that lifestyle but he can turn them away for people that are not getting locked up and overdosing . It’s very sad
I feel your pain bro….. like BET was known for music all my life I get locked up and come home 4 years later and everything was either done Or watered down 😩🤣
The BET from the 90s and 2000s was everything
You won a subscription right off the intro Fam💥Good stuff
Oh yea, tunin into Waka rn, his streams bouta go up💯I like Real Artists
If Waka wasn't with Gucci he would not be the Gucci we know today.
CAP😂😂😂 GUCCI BEST PROJECTS BARELY HAVE WAKA FEATURES ON THEM. U TRIPPING
Yeah I think this video got you hyped up if this was the case how come Waka don't have a career and Gucci mane is still relevant and making music
@@ERICCLAPPDHIM because he's rich now
I love waka but this is not true
Aye bruh you must be like 17 😂😂😂😂 Gucci was Gucci before waka
Just found this channel and legit one of the best I've come across so far. I'll subscribe just keep up the good work my guy
I still don't understand how debra,flocka and Guwop broke up like that plus having a major fall out,i understand managers and clients have disagreements,but damn😳
Yeah it was Hella confusing to me as well when researching this vid
In Gucci’s book he says deb changed “trap say aye” so that it was Oj’s song when, according to Gucci, it was his. She facilitated this while he was locked up. Gucci then ended his label so icy ent ( deb owned 1/3) and created 1017 brick squad. This cut financial ties to deb. At the same time deb was fired by Nikki Minaj, so it put her in a bad spot. This is how Gucci explains his side of the beginning of the tension.
@@ronniewashington8958 ,you very well could be right,because I haven't read the book yet they say there is always 2 sides too a story in my opinion,it's 3 sides,Guwop side,debra's side and the absolute truth in the middle
@@ronniewashington8958Gucci was also mad at waka mom for stealing from OJ
I love waka n still do 💯
Loyalty to friends does not result in anything
Loyalty is the biggest scam
@@MashaRistovaI swear
It’s because you picked snake friends. I’m only alive because of my loyalty.
@@MashaRistovathat’s because you picked trash friends not riders and real ones.
Speak for yourselves. My best friend of ten years helped me get my first 6 figure job.
The only one I can think of that really helps his artist without unfairing them is 50 cent 🤔🤜🏻🤛🏽💯💯
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really can’t nobody from g unit drop nothing because they owe 50 ya yo just make it look good wtf
Young Thug?
Young dolph
@@bmoregotti410you said it yourself, THEY OWE him.. do u go through life not paying your bills?
You forget Deb was stealing too 😂
Did he not say guwop sued her for as much?
Nobody wins when the family feuds
Lol @1:51 you mixed both my hoods up but I’m glad you did that bro Shoutout to South Side Jamaica Queens, and Queensbridge 🙌🏾
Working class Jamaica, Queens not Queensbridge public housing to Atlanta, GA working class neighborhood.
Remember ne when u get famous.GOAT🐐🐐
This is the first time watching one of Louaistas' videos. I like the way that he put it together, and the way that he described the situations and how it got to those points. Great work and I'm about to subscribe and support this Brothers page. "Much Respect My G", keep up the good work.
Smh Waka Started Doing Europe Tours And EDM… His Career Still Relevant So How It’s Ruined?
Damn I never knew that about his brother and the neighbor. I'm in shock
I didn't know about that either. Just knw of his white frickle redhead bro that passed.
Waka got millions even tho he cannot rap....he hustled that ish...that is to be respected...fucc a gushi....😂
Not covering how Deb was robbing Gucci of money is crazy . This wasn’t told from both sides
He’s fine as hell! Which is why he was able to capitalize on something that he’s literally confessing that he was wack at. Not only is he fine, but it seems like his awareness and respect (reverence) for certain things is taken seriously. Knowing and fully being able to understand the trajectory of certain things……and accept it, will always serve you in an array of ways.
He is fine
@ 30:55 he had that. His mother was his mother and in the industry and he said out his own mouth she told him not to sign and had lawyers tell him not to sign.
Weird
I only know them as separate artists... plus wakka is definitely an intelligent business man. Seems like a great guy.
❤Both have grown into fine successful men. Sometimes, i think we need let people grow and stop living in the past of others. Js😢
Is it weird that I watched the whole video without pausing even once?
That's crazy! Lol appreciate you watching 🙏🏼🔥
Gucci was smashing deb
Lesson learned DONT HATE ON ANOTHER PERSONS SUCCESS JUST FOR SOME POPULARITY YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THEY MIGHT THANK YOU
as a bigtime OG waka fan, who really appreciates a video like this btw!.. u used the wrong SMoSM album cover for SaluteMeOrShootMe! (u used the cover from SMoSM4) Im payin attention! ;)
What's crazy is that Gucci's signees keep getting killed or completely turning on him, Gucci is cursed and hurts those around him.
He's not a good person. His own mother was absent at his wedding.
@@ilovejesuschrist992Gucci stopped talking to his mom long before getting married. He talked about it in First Day Out
Well Sheisty only got 6 years for almost serving close to triple thar so Gucci did provide a bomb lawyer
It’s not his fault they made bad choices
Millions of views we was still listening to cds then lol
Gucci and waka were my 2 favorite rappers when i was younger
he's back 🔥
Should be a weekly upload schedule from here 😅
Waka flocka is goated and will forever have a place in hip hop.
Didn't know Gucci Mane was a _ itch a- Ninja
Fire video!! Do the Waka Kebo Gotti beef next!!!
Ayeee good idea 🙏🏼🔥
gucci mane being like that is by no means mind baffling
crazy bc I was locked up in VA with a dude tellin me Gucci Mane's Aunt was the CEO of his label n when Gucci was hot she got Flocka to come up and make money. this was 2008. guess he wasn't cap
Good shit brother, keep up the great work.
Whats crazy is Gucci is the one that cant rap. Idc idc idc
SAY NO TO DRUGS 🙏
So why do wake keep trying to be Gucci Mane friend? This is so one-sided
Waka is a wholesome legend bro.
If he dropped an album rn people would lose their minds.
I don’t think so
I still wish they reconcile and do a project before they hang up the mic definitely. I was a Gucci Mane fan first but when Waka Flocka popped up, he became my favorite. I was like "Gucci is a better rapper, but Waka's energy was more impactful to me". Despite listening to way better rappers like Em, Kendrick Lil Wayne (was still on top back then), Waka was in my number 1. To this day, I still listened to Ferrari Boyz and Flockaveli. I still hope Gucci will come to his sense one. If they dropped a good project, it would be a dream come true and surely bring back Waka around for a little bit more.
Correction: Gucci Mane became a must-have for many RAP heads* playlist. Rap and Hip-Hop aren’t the same thing.
Thats the cover to salute me or shoot me 4 bruh
The level of loyalty and devotion thugs expect from each other is sooooo weird. They act like spouses.
So basically gucci had something to do with waka best friend death .... yeah they never going to be cool
Playlists didn’t exist back then it was mixtapes
can you do oj the juice man
OJ was done dirty by Deb Ant. Him and Gucci were more compatible than WAKA/Gucci.
Yeah what direction should I take it?
@@louaista How did Deb Antney betrayed Juice??
Do it from that angle
Ay Waka look like Carmelo Anthony on one of them videos 😂
Damn guwop you supposed to hold your homey up better 😢
I always wanted Wakka and Lil Scrappy to work together they reminded me of eachother in a lot of ways and are both way underrated
i remember being on ig live with Louaista a couple years ago. he was reviewing my music… It was trash i can’t even lie😭
Hope it made you get better 😂
@@louaista i’m more focused on youtube now😆i saw this video when it first came out, it gave me inspiration to make a drama video, and now it’s my most popular video, so thank you! Keep up the great work‼️
I'm so confused he's got ghost accounts lmao
"I don't like you rapping, you need to be a goon" 😂 WTF! He's not just trying to box him in, he wants him logged up. Any friend who tries to box you in is actually your enemy.
I'll take an enemies over a friend like Gucci fr he really hindered Waka overall success and stole from him all out of jealously.
Yo bro... single mother and "disciplinarian" is quite the oxymoron
lmao😂😂😂
Not really. When the POS father is no where to be found, the mother has to be a disciplinarian. You really thought you sounded smart.
@@ilovejesuschrist992 ok u S.Mother, its all 'his' fault. You're doing your best n your kids are the exception