Editing his videos isnt even hard, he doesnt even edit them well, he either somethines just randomly cuts or completely excludes interesting stuff that caedrel is saying during the games
Bad news for Faker's permanently injured wrists. It's pretty clear he needs alot of rest in the regionals and then locking during Worlds and it's during the prepartion for Worlds. He legitmately cannot perform at his peak for 3 seasons like the new and uninjured players. I fear he will defo miss worlds next year because of the format affecting his physical health.
@@phlixcarbon If T1 wins another title this year I don't see Faker playing in T1's main line-up next year. Passing of the torch or something while he rests and gets his health issues resolved over the year.
It's actually roughly same amount of games, just separated into a lot more stages. All high stakes and everything is important. LCK's format rewards consistency which is great. Whereas LEC format rewards summer split since nothing carries over and prolonged spring split due to MSI is a detriment to the top teams when it comes to qualifying for Worlds.
Love the LCK format.. the LEC one not so much. Tho I disagree and think they should keep bo3 where Caedrel asks for bo5.. Need to be brutal in these formats. Rogue plays what.. 27-28 games? T1 played 171 games? I mean no wonder they are always in worlds finals and stuff. They live and breath the sports as it should be. I'm amazed with how good G2 was this year with the format and opponents in LEC. (Not really blaming the talent we have, we have plenty of talent.. the format was just high pace with not much 'wow' effect when you won a split.. and then season finals defined a lot.. again we have the big emphasis on summer tho.. I think that kinda sucks, it needs to raise stakes across entire year like in LCK.)
@@Vahndamme elim matches going into brackets should never be Bo3. Especially when it can punish teams going to prolonged split internationals, in the format were only summer split matters. If you want to see more games, run double round robin Bo3s each regular split, not whatever the fuck LEC is doing in the summer.
bro on a hard fearless format u can completly deplete someone's champ comp not only with bans but with pics. thats the biggest middle finger some team may exploit
@@ShiroVK870 learn to play something else then. I would love league to be more about being a well rounded player than basically a one-trick and only performing on some patches.
The teams in the LCK are playing fewer games before playoffs overall though (used to be 18 games per split (36 total) but now they're playing 18 + (4x3) = 30 total series instead of the previous 36, so they end up saving a bit of time in summer since it's shorter, which I think allows for the longer playoffs.
The LCK format seems so much better than LEC. The R3-5 basically guarantees that there aren't as many foregone conclusion stomps. We don't need 2 series of GenG or T1 vs Bro or NS. It also increases the number of close matches, because each team will have 1 more match against a competitive team too. I imagine it's more fun for fans of lower ranked teams too because they don't have to watch them get clobbered so much
It also makes spring super important and summer barely matter for the top teams. The difference between 5th place and 6th place is huge, but once you are in that top 5 you are pretty solid as long as you aren't exactly 5th. People are gonna enjoy seeing the top teams play vs each other more, but the games will be fairly low stakes.
@ you can’t expect all veiwership to be the eastern numbers, but by not matching the eastern teams in preparation, you’re still sending teams to international play at a disadvantage. Would it change that much? Probably not, because they’re inferior players in the west; however, they’re cooked from the drop with LCK being that competitive for their entirety of their year. Those 3rd and 4th LCK teams at worlds are going to hardened by fire.
Yeah it's not like players like Faker are already dealing with a wrist injury, more and more players will retire sooner because they are being forced to play more games. Riot only sees the players as a cash grab and not as human beings.
The way LCK's group stage selection works is as follows: HLE chooses a team for their group, then GenG chooses another team. After that, the team that HLE chose chooses another team to be in their group, and then the team chosen by GenG. And then those teams pick and so on. The top 2 spots from the previous season DON'T CHOOSE ALL THE TEAMS, they only choose the first ones and each chosen team picks the next one until the last 2 teams are chosen. It's going to be sort of fun because the teams need to choose teams that match well against what teams the other group chose. It's an interesting format, but also a weird one. Considering it's LCK though, they most likely choose the teams in order of placement, just like they do with Team All Pro votes, but whatever
The LCK Cup is probably the best thing that has happened to league sincr many years. Reminds me of when I was a child and we had 2 captains who selected the members of their team
Hmm I personally don’t really like it due to the way they select top 3 from winner group guaranteed for playoff. You can win every games but still go to loser group cause the other 4 teams are too heavy to carry.
@@oreoyo5639 But hear me out, they select the teams before a single match has been played, like the year just started with all the new rosters and stuff. It is still a massive gamble, you don't know how the team chemistry works for each team or what form they're in. I think it's gonna bang!
@@oreoyo5639 It honestly would be a problem except that it's considered just an LCK cup and not a title. It is an all or nothing tournament and if you are the best or a top 3 team then it won't matter since you should make it to the Playoffs anyways.
Geng and HLE dont pick all of the teams, they just pick the first teams they want to have. Those teams they have chosen then chose the next team and so on
Imagine GenG losing their matches, but still directly advance to Round2 of Playoffs just because their group does better. Or vice versa, 5th seed of a group wins all their matches but because they're in the overall weaker group get eliminated despite winning everything. Complete nonsense.
the extended lck split sounds so good. sally pointed out the biggest issue with the lec change being orgs all-inning for summer. the protracted lck split solves that by making the teams who are good the whole year qualify for worlds (while removing championship points)
I like the idea of the lck cup teams. I just started lol and lck this year, and while i watch every game, i am a gen g fan boy and only cheer for them. This way, when i watch, I'll always have a team to cheer for in the hopes my group wins amd our top 3 advance. Very cool way to incentivise me to get to know other players and cheer them on.
"spring" is technically just old lck format without a grand finals , remember when skt was at the bottom of the king of the hill and they still won the finals vs griffin
idk if its correct but I counted 120 total matches alone just in the R3-R5 part of the year, since its triple round-robin with 5 teams each in two groups and even the middle guys in that ladder need to go thru play ins so thats like a couple 3-4 more matches like holy hell
well with this set up it means there will be no more regional qualifiers so that means it shouldnt be that much more for summer and spring is just almost the same, only difference is probably the lower teams gets to play more now... I actually think if you look at it per team should have lesser games in summer since double round robin with 10 teams is like 18 matches while triple round robin with 5 teams is only like 12 matches... but yeah with winter/lck cup and new international it will be more total for the year
@@lxnrdagr8In R3-R5, each team will play a total of 12 series with 4 other teams in the same group. Each series contains two teams, so there will be 60 series in total for 10 LCK teams.
LCK new format is way too brutal and unforgiving... especially for late bloomers. As you mentioned, if Team Z end spring at 6th place, crawled their way to MSI and won MSI. Their start in summer will still be 🤕.
im not sure but i think if you win in that round to qualify to msi your seed increases like if you win first round you are 5th and the other team is 6th or something like that and if you win next you are 4th and the other team is 5th and so on
I like this format. imagine if you are 9th at R1-2, you can still go Msi and Worlds. this format is really generous for weaker teams and brutal for stronger teams like Geng
New LCK format goes so fucking hard holy shit - Korea maintaining the fact that its going to be a full decade ahead of the rest of the industry an i fkn love it
IMO I don't see an issue with fearless draft continuing into game 5 The game has over 160 champions so building a comp from the remining 110+ champs should not be a problem for pro players and it would be fun to watch champs that you don't usually get to see in competitive play I think it adds another layer to the game and forces players to think ahead when drafting vs falling back on the same 10-15 champs every game
So, you're saying fearless draft exist where prime Faker could be more of a monster than he is right now because of the fact that his champion pool way back then is pretty much the entire League champions?
In the 2025 LCK season, each team plays a minimum of 26 Best of 3 (Bo3) and 2 Best of 5 (Bo5) matches. At maximum, they may play up to 26 Bo3 and 7 Bo5 matches if they progress through every round. For a team reaching the playoffs through the Loser's bracket and advancing in the LCK Cup, the maximum total is 51 individual games (26 Bo3 and 25 Bo5 games). In an ideal run, a team reaching the finals directly would play around 40 games.
tbf if you do place 5th your probably going to be in the exact same situation as the 6th place team since it's very unlikely a 5th place team will suddenly win against the top 4 so they both will have to play the same play ins and playoffs.
@@tbnrnoob1430it's impact the quality of the match. Thus, the team development itself. You can see how bad is Fly when playing against low level teams, e.g. TL. But they're managed to improve so much when playing against HLE and GenG.
What i really love is that LCK one split format. Lot of shenanigans going on in between but its pretty simlar to standard sport whole years leagues that are extremely consistent, every game matter and cant just focus on one side of the season.
Lck round 4-5 to me has the motto of "iron sharpens iron". My bjj coach used to say a black belt learns nothing destroying a white belt, and a white belt learns nothing by getting destroyed by a black belt, neither person gains any experience. Pick a similar skilled person for practice because iron sharpens iron. Very same for pro sports. Gen g gain nothing from stomping bro, amd bro cant learn anything. This way allows the top teams to constantly face the best in preperation for playoffs and eventually worlds, and the bottom 5 teams get time to actually improve by versing simmilar skilled opponents and not just stomped for multiple weeks straight.
It's gonna be amazing for LCK viewers, But i wonder how the 6th place team will feel like. Like imagine. youre 6th, like he said, you go through 5th team, 4th, 3rd, and 2nd team just to get into MSi. then after you get back from MSI, yuore not even in the top 5 teams, youre in the lower 5 teams and you gotta do a triple round robin, and even if you get first in your group, youre only in playins (not playoffs). and after that, you gotta do more BO5 just to be in the play offs, then after that, you gotta then beat the other teams which you probably havent had much matches with cause they were in a different group, and just getting into Worlds will be so fking hard cause you gotta beat the top 5 teams like T1, GENG, HLE, KT, DK just to get a spot in Worlds (but if LCK doesnt get a spot from MSI), only 3 teams will go and being 4th will mean absolutely nothing cause there is no spot for 4th.
i think if you win in that round where you go through 5th,4th,3rd,2nd you become 2nd like every win increases your seed like if you are 6th and you win first round you are 5th then if you win 4th and then if you win 3rd and then if you get to msi you become second so you are in the legend group and also who loses is downgraded one seed
지나가던 한국인입니다 이해를 못하시는 분들을 위해서 간단하게만 설명하자면 축구 경기라고 생각하시면 됩니다 축구도 약 1년동안 경기를 하는 리그 경기가 있고 컵 경기가 있고 국제대회[챔피언스리그] 있듯이 LCK도 컵 경기가 있고 리그 경기가 있고 국제 대회가 있습니다 라운드 1~5가 리그 경기라고 생각하시면 됩니다 월즈챔피언쉽 시드권은 MSI 성적에 따라서 3개팀이 갈지 4개팀이 갈지 자동으로 바뀝니다 기존에는 LCK가 스프링과 서머에 트로피가 2개였지만 이젠 트로피가 1개입니다 축구나 야구처럼 한시즌에 한개입니다
Honestly the LCK is going to be brutal for the 6th team no matter what. I mean imagine trying to make it to worlds when your competition is GenG HLE T1 DK and KT. Any format will be difficult just because that's how competitive the LCK has become.
If you can beat all 5th, 4th, 3rd and 2nd team, you probably wouldn’t be placed at 6th… it’s such a low possibility for that to happen. And if a team is able to somehow pull off this miracle run for a MSI spot, they’ll just have to do the miracle run again for the world spot, which is even easier for a 4 spots region.
The new LCK format is more meaningful and bonded to each other while The new LEC format is Just 3 different splits to qualify to different internationals😂😂😂
feels like there should be some reward for MSI winner to have a higher chance getting into worlds. Maybe not a guaranteed spot out of the three available, but something that makes it easier to get one of those spots
It is like that. I don't think they will change it next year. Winner of MSI guarenteed a spot at worlds, if they made playoffs. It is not likely that the MSI winner falls of that hard to miss playoffs. 2nd best performing region got a 4th seed at worlds. At least it was like this this year, likely these will be there next year too, and they will adjust it to each regions format during summer for the winner of MSI.
to summarise is this basically how Valorant does it with kick off, stage 1 and stage 2 basically, same with the international events too with the addition of this new one
I like LCk so much more than LEC. You should be rewarded for doing well in Spring. It is almost to your detriment to go to MSI in the LEC format because you end up “hungover” in the split that actually matters with no help from the prior split.
This means best teams will have to earn being top 6. Top 4, LEC needs to evolve imagine G2 with this format this year more changes of beating BLG. G2 needs to prove they can adapt,
15:30 This already happened in Valorant VCT and it was pretty shit tbh... so basically they wanted to implement that in league and try to fix the problems Valorant had all 2024 season. Outside of that i like the Format of the LCK
It also has a strategy in it for the 3rd/4th teams for each group to pick weaker or the weakest teams to ensure that they get more wins than them if they know their group is going to win overall.
LCK format means more LCK revenue, more competitive games, more headliner games but less giant killing chances, BRO rolling GENG, NS taking their mandatory game against T1 etc. Hope these lower teams are still alright financially with less marquee games.
Both LEC Summer and LCK Cup are set up so that the middle of the pack get extra stage games. It can often be an advantage just to have more games, and in previous LEC formats at least, it was often the top teams that got more stage time. It will be interesting if this results in a tighter pack of teams, skill-wise.
It hope its hard fearless and without reset in game 5. I really want to see player get more diverse and teams get more creative for their team comps. I wanna see them go DEEP in the tank
An upper bracket team can still qualify for worlds by losing two Best-Of 5s, hence dominating Best-Of 3s is enough when your region gets 1st or 2nd at MSI (most likely LCK/LPL)
I generally the Fearless Draft change. I hope we see more of it in 2026. I'm just worried about game quality really going downhill with teams not picking their best champions anymore, especially in the early days of Fearless Draft, when teams have less experience on how to deal with that. LCK will probably be fine, but LEC 2024 was a complete shitshow, what is it supposed to be with Fearless Draft enabled?
change the title to chat explains the formats to caedrel instead imo omE PS: LCK Cup format incentivizes watching lower seeded teams' matches as well cause depending on who you support you re rooting for a bunch of other teams in your group to win as well so its pretty cool. I guess NS/BRO Fighting xdd PS2: LCK Legend Group Cinema - bunch of top teams.. and damwon xdd PS3: LCK Cup game 5 hard fearless Faker Zed Riven Prayge
He's not wrong about the amount of matches in the LCK Summer, I'm not sure why the LEC has a different amount of matches. I thought the LEC kept this Groups thing cause there was lesser time in Summer, but the LCK has an INSANE number of matches in the same time.
Since the triple Bo3 RR is within the smaller group, they don't play more games than a double RR with all 10 teams, but it's still a whole lotta games - especially the following play-ins and POs Bo5.
LCK format looks insanely cool, to have a big championship at the beginning of the year and then making the LCK main event one big thing looks so cool, and jesus christ, this is A LOT of games.
It's just an easy way to test 3 formats in 1 year and then they will probably take the one that got the best reception and continue with that one instead of testing a new format every year for 3 years
Either way there has to be two different formats minimum, because the time periods before the new international and MSI are significantly shorter than between MSI and Worlds.
The importance of Spring Placement is way to high in the LCK. And Summer Triple Round Robin in the Legend Group has so little impact because top4 go to playoffs directly anyway. It's 12 Bo3 just to skip one Bo5 in PlayOffs, since this is the difference between being first, second, third or fourth. It's only about not being fifth basically. In PlayIns it might be better to lose on purpose in one of the later games, if the 3rd seed from the legend group feels easier than the 4th. Being able to pick your opponent for the higher seeded Teams was the better choice and this is a downgrade to last year overall.
Top 1-2 is pretty important no? And being 5th means you still have a chance of not qualifying for the playoffs given that you haven't played against the other 3 on the rise grp as well. But yeah, the games aren't as high stakes as the rise grp, but I think they're really trying to determine who deserves the top seeds and the quality of matches are high, and even if there isn't any bo5, it's like a bo3 of bo3s in a way. Given all that, it would be funny if they somehow dominated the legends grp and got eliminated in the playoffs come bo5s LMAO. A great LCK R1-5 and your season just ends not qualifying to worlds by losing two bo5s LOLLL
There's only major regions now. But, if they remove 1 from LEC, they could give back 4th to LPL/LCK teams each, because now one of them won't get a 4th seed, it'll get eliminated in a single Bo5 against 4th seeds and not make it to the Main Stage.
Anyone wondering how LCK will fit all this in, currently LCK plays 90 Bo3s in a season, which they will still do in Spring. The new Summer split is going to be 60 Bo3s, meaning they're removing 3 weeks worth of games from their summer split to fit in an extra set of Bo5s.
Fearless draft is what I always wanted to see in major tournaments. Easily solve small champion pool being used in every tournament and makes matches even more interesting.
One thing I noticed about the LCK format is the teams in the Legend group do not play against any teams in the Rise group. So the top 5 teams are playing against each other (in the Legends group) and the bottom 5 teams are playing against each other (in the Rise group) and only get to meet in the playins&playoffs. I could see that this might create a big gap in skill between the bottom 5 and top 5 teams
That's my worry as well, but I think the higher stakes on the rise group forces them to, idk, play better ig because of the threat of elimination for 2 teams. That might also put them on an advantage vs the 5th seed on the legends grp as they know more about what weaknesses that team has due to them being 5th seed and all. I kinda like it ig, Legends grp being high quality gameplay and Rise grp being higher stakes gameplay. It would then be satisfying to see one or two from the rise grp eliminating teams from the legends grp in the playoffs and maybe even qualifying for worlds. That's why they are in the 'Rise' grp I guess.
The seedings after "spring" are not the regular seedings they are after the playoffs for msi so first place regular can just be first if they win or second/third depending if they lose 1 or 2 times and Place 6 regular season can still go to legend group
at 26:40, think he meant spring, the competition before MSI. 6th place in "spring" and then come back as 6th in 'Rise Group' during Summer even if they win MSI in hindsight, o7 T1. I don't think they can breathe next year with this format. here comes pobymygoat xdd
Not sold on the summer LEC format. G2 wining winter, spring, having a bad summer and being out from worlds? The other 2 internationals are nowhere near the importance of worlds.
Just win the MSI and take a guaranteed slot :) But actually, if the team is looking bad at summer, then how we can be sure that it will show up at worlds
@@thearcticpod They didn’t deserve to go to worlds?? They were an 8th place team and only made it because of their early year performance. That literally supports my argument lmao?
@mithilcherkadi9990 sorry if my comment was confusing. I meant if this format was used this year, G2 might have been eliminated from worlds, while MDK got to go to worlds.
Mr. Editor seeing the amount of LCK games next year: 💀💀💀
He better be paid per video or he’s permanently staying in the basement😂
It's mostly the same amount unless a 4-5th seed plays full games in every series, in which case its like 9 more games
Mr editor thinking about his paycheck😊
Editing his videos isnt even hard, he doesnt even edit them well, he either somethines just randomly cuts or completely excludes interesting stuff that caedrel is saying during the games
Imagine being Faker... You're in your last week just about to play Worlds finals after 170+ games and you see this 😂
based on sally's analogy on homeworks it looks like t1 are forced to do their homework with this new lck format xdd
Bad news for Faker's permanently injured wrists. It's pretty clear he needs alot of rest in the regionals and then locking during Worlds and it's during the prepartion for Worlds. He legitmately cannot perform at his peak for 3 seasons like the new and uninjured players. I fear he will defo miss worlds next year because of the format affecting his physical health.
Faker should retire after his fight worlds championship
@@phlixcarbon Poby time
@@phlixcarbon If T1 wins another title this year I don't see Faker playing in T1's main line-up next year. Passing of the torch or something while he rests and gets his health issues resolved over the year.
@@inui12494 I agree
Rogue will play more than 27 games 😍
Unless they finally manage to get rid of their spot lmao
That's Ligma Galaxy Rogue to you.
Not if they're gone by then 😂which they want to be
LCK is cooking an entire feast.
They just keep cooking
Never stop
LPL actually did this first but not this complicated 😂😂😂
LPL walk so LCK can marathon 😂😂@@hanabir4
This is why LCK is the best and it has single handedly ruined my sleep schedule
LCK format is crazy, seems like ALOT OF GAMES
It's actually roughly same amount of games, just separated into a lot more stages. All high stakes and everything is important.
LCK's format rewards consistency which is great. Whereas LEC format rewards summer split since nothing carries over and prolonged spring split due to MSI is a detriment to the top teams when it comes to qualifying for Worlds.
Love the LCK format.. the LEC one not so much. Tho I disagree and think they should keep bo3 where Caedrel asks for bo5.. Need to be brutal in these formats. Rogue plays what.. 27-28 games? T1 played 171 games? I mean no wonder they are always in worlds finals and stuff. They live and breath the sports as it should be. I'm amazed with how good G2 was this year with the format and opponents in LEC. (Not really blaming the talent we have, we have plenty of talent.. the format was just high pace with not much 'wow' effect when you won a split.. and then season finals defined a lot.. again we have the big emphasis on summer tho.. I think that kinda sucks, it needs to raise stakes across entire year like in LCK.)
@@Vahndamme elim matches going into brackets should never be Bo3. Especially when it can punish teams going to prolonged split internationals, in the format were only summer split matters.
If you want to see more games, run double round robin Bo3s each regular split, not whatever the fuck LEC is doing in the summer.
about the same for 1st and 2nd seed, but other will play a lot more
Uhm… interesting 🧐
LCK is gonna play FIFTEEN Bo5s in Summer. FIFTEEN. That's wild.
its 12 right? Group of 5 teams, so you play four other teams.
Those are Bo3s
There's 5 Bo5s for Play-ins and 10 Bo5s for playoffs
LPL Summer/Regionals was 15 BO5's this year, but still a 10x more brutal format than LCK. Love the direction LCK is going though
It's gonna be a crazy year
PLEASE give us a hard fearless draft. I wanna see some funky rengar ivern bot cause every adc in the game is unavailable 🙏🙏
bro on a hard fearless format u can completly deplete someone's champ comp not only with bans but with pics. thats the biggest middle finger some team may exploit
@@ShiroVK870 learn to play something else then. I would love league to be more about being a well rounded player than basically a one-trick and only performing on some patches.
Flyquest would've won against GENG if it had been a fearless draft, just saying.
@@riahsaonirit2650not definitively
@@Hannwes And if we had hard fearless at this years worlds, Flyquest whole spicy picks roster would've been banned out in the first p/b. Nice
The teams in the LCK are playing fewer games before playoffs overall though (used to be 18 games per split (36 total) but now they're playing 18 + (4x3) = 30 total series instead of the previous 36, so they end up saving a bit of time in summer since it's shorter, which I think allows for the longer playoffs.
LCK Format is actually so cool holy. Forcing alliances and then having them fight each other later is epic and should create mega pace
LCK has turned into Squid Game, xdd! Korea always comes up with crazy ways to entertain the audience.
As a tournament organiser LCK is blowing my mind. These formats are insane
Ngl LCK starting the year off with just one super tournament sounds hype as fuck.
LCK format seems really exciting. Motivates me to tune in every game of the season rather than playoffs and worlds.
Daaamn LCK format looks SOOOO COOOOL
The LCK format seems so much better than LEC. The R3-5 basically guarantees that there aren't as many foregone conclusion stomps. We don't need 2 series of GenG or T1 vs Bro or NS. It also increases the number of close matches, because each team will have 1 more match against a competitive team too. I imagine it's more fun for fans of lower ranked teams too because they don't have to watch them get clobbered so much
The problem is though it is soo many games Koreans we need mechanical wrists to survive xd.
It also makes spring super important and summer barely matter for the top teams. The difference between 5th place and 6th place is huge, but once you are in that top 5 you are pretty solid as long as you aren't exactly 5th.
People are gonna enjoy seeing the top teams play vs each other more, but the games will be fairly low stakes.
Ironic considering T1 lost to Nongshim in summer.
@@nicholascurbelo5308yea t1 lost to NS then go to WORLDS stomp everyone 🗿 HAHAHH
@@skelet8337 Not many more than other years. It's also statistically more improbable to actually reach the max number of games.
I really wish every region had to follow the same format. I really don’t want to figure out where every different region is in their split.
Can’t. Different viewership, competition, etc.
@ you can’t expect all veiwership to be the eastern numbers, but by not matching the eastern teams in preparation, you’re still sending teams to international play at a disadvantage. Would it change that much? Probably not, because they’re inferior players in the west; however, they’re cooked from the drop with LCK being that competitive for their entirety of their year. Those 3rd and 4th LCK teams at worlds are going to hardened by fire.
@@EveryTimeIDavid the simplest point is they don’t have enough capital/viewership to support such lengthy tourney like lck
They all sync up for every international. Shouldn't bee too hard.
@ LCK in and of themselves is difficult to know where they’re going to be even if you just watch them.
LCK teams will play more games and practice on meta. Just worried if the burnouts...
they'll probably compensate with less soloq and scrims. Even koreans must sleep and rest lol
@Pottan23 ikr. just worried specially those content teams... but who knows.. asians hard core gamers.
Burnout in Korea = getting kicked lol
@@simpuff9017 haha
Yeah it's not like players like Faker are already dealing with a wrist injury, more and more players will retire sooner because they are being forced to play more games. Riot only sees the players as a cash grab and not as human beings.
The way LCK's group stage selection works is as follows: HLE chooses a team for their group, then GenG chooses another team. After that, the team that HLE chose chooses another team to be in their group, and then the team chosen by GenG. And then those teams pick and so on. The top 2 spots from the previous season DON'T CHOOSE ALL THE TEAMS, they only choose the first ones and each chosen team picks the next one until the last 2 teams are chosen.
It's going to be sort of fun because the teams need to choose teams that match well against what teams the other group chose. It's an interesting format, but also a weird one. Considering it's LCK though, they most likely choose the teams in order of placement, just like they do with Team All Pro votes, but whatever
The LCK Cup is probably the best thing that has happened to league sincr many years. Reminds me of when I was a child and we had 2 captains who selected the members of their team
Hmm I personally don’t really like it due to the way they select top 3 from winner group guaranteed for playoff. You can win every games but still go to loser group cause the other 4 teams are too heavy to carry.
@@oreoyo5639 But hear me out, they select the teams before a single match has been played, like the year just started with all the new rosters and stuff. It is still a massive gamble, you don't know how the team chemistry works for each team or what form they're in. I think it's gonna bang!
@@oreoyo5639 It honestly would be a problem except that it's considered just an LCK cup and not a title. It is an all or nothing tournament and if you are the best or a top 3 team then it won't matter since you should make it to the Playoffs anyways.
Geng and HLE dont pick all of the teams, they just pick the first teams they want to have. Those teams they have chosen then chose the next team and so on
Imagine GenG losing their matches, but still directly advance to Round2 of Playoffs just because their group does better. Or vice versa, 5th seed of a group wins all their matches but because they're in the overall weaker group get eliminated despite winning everything. Complete nonsense.
the extended lck split sounds so good. sally pointed out the biggest issue with the lec change being orgs all-inning for summer. the protracted lck split solves that by making the teams who are good the whole year qualify for worlds (while removing championship points)
I like the idea of the lck cup teams. I just started lol and lck this year, and while i watch every game, i am a gen g fan boy and only cheer for them. This way, when i watch, I'll always have a team to cheer for in the hopes my group wins amd our top 3 advance. Very cool way to incentivise me to get to know other players and cheer them on.
+ viewship
I feel the same way as a T1 fan - I rarely watch the other teams during regular season. This way I’ll tune in for sure.
@@burntpaper9453 idk man, the regular seasons becoming more grueling doesn't mean too well for faker's wrist
LCK teams will have the most stressfull year of their life, and LCK enjoyers will be eating good
The LCK cup format is pretty awesome
"spring" is technically just old lck format without a grand finals , remember when skt was at the bottom of the king of the hill and they still won the finals vs griffin
lck 2019 summer playoffs
Oh my god they made Drakos canadian!
Bro that LCK format is brutal and I’m here for it, it sounds super exciting to watch
The LCK Cup format is great, they're always cooking
If you go to wikipedia, T1 is already world champion of 2024
Fr? HAHAHAHAHAHA
Wikipedia can be edited though. Maybe the people who reviewed it are T1 fans lmao
classic T1 fans moment
Fake
So did anyone count how matches they are throughout all the LCK seasons?
Feels like heaven for the viewers but hell for the players.
Without playoffs, it's 55 series per team
idk if its correct but I counted 120 total matches alone just in the R3-R5 part of the year, since its triple round-robin with 5 teams each in two groups and even the middle guys in that ladder need to go thru play ins so thats like a couple 3-4 more matches like holy hell
well with this set up it means there will be no more regional qualifiers so that means it shouldnt be that much more for summer and spring is just almost the same, only difference is probably the lower teams gets to play more now... I actually think if you look at it per team should have lesser games in summer since double round robin with 10 teams is like 18 matches while triple round robin with 5 teams is only like 12 matches... but yeah with winter/lck cup and new international it will be more total for the year
I was incorrect. counted the LCK cup wrong. It's 35 series per team. LCK cup has 25 games in total. Each team plays 5.
@@lxnrdagr8In R3-R5, each team will play a total of 12 series with 4 other teams in the same group. Each series contains two teams, so there will be 60 series in total for 10 LCK teams.
LCK new format is way too brutal and unforgiving... especially for late bloomers.
As you mentioned, if Team Z end spring at 6th place, crawled their way to MSI and won MSI.
Their start in summer will still be 🤕.
im not sure but i think if you win in that round to qualify to msi your seed increases like if you win first round you are 5th and the other team is 6th or something like that and if you win next you are 4th and the other team is 5th and so on
I think they should've give the MSI 2nd seed a guaranteed legend group spot if they're not in top 5.
I like this format. imagine if you are 9th at R1-2, you can still go Msi and Worlds. this format is really generous for weaker teams and brutal for stronger teams like Geng
@@andresjeong1460 You need to be at least 6th to qualify for the gauntlet.
Lck format is crazy. So tired for the players 😢 Faker’s arm cant handle this much
New LCK format goes so fucking hard holy shit - Korea maintaining the fact that its going to be a full decade ahead of the rest of the industry an i fkn love it
LCK is so lock-in for next year
LCK new format looks chaotic and super fun, so many games. This year is going to be peak
IMO I don't see an issue with fearless draft continuing into game 5
The game has over 160 champions so building a comp from the remining 110+ champs should not be a problem for pro players and it would be fun to watch champs that you don't usually get to see in competitive play
I think it adds another layer to the game and forces players to think ahead when drafting vs falling back on the same 10-15 champs every game
So, you're saying fearless draft exist where prime Faker could be more of a monster than he is right now because of the fact that his champion pool way back then is pretty much the entire League champions?
In the 2025 LCK season, each team plays a minimum of 26 Best of 3 (Bo3) and 2 Best of 5 (Bo5) matches. At maximum, they may play up to 26 Bo3 and 7 Bo5 matches if they progress through every round. For a team reaching the playoffs through the Loser's bracket and advancing in the LCK Cup, the maximum total is 51 individual games (26 Bo3 and 25 Bo5 games). In an ideal run, a team reaching the finals directly would play around 40 games.
You’re incorrect. By just counting R1-R2 and R3-R5, each team will have to play 18+12 Bo3 series, which is 30 in total.
Love the changes in the formats in general. The difference in LCK spring placing 5th or 6th is insanely punishing due to the 2 summer groups though…
tbf if you do place 5th your probably going to be in the exact same situation as the 6th place team since it's very unlikely a 5th place team will suddenly win against the top 4 so they both will have to play the same play ins and playoffs.
@@tbnrnoob1430it's impact the quality of the match. Thus, the team development itself. You can see how bad is Fly when playing against low level teams, e.g. TL. But they're managed to improve so much when playing against HLE and GenG.
the lck cup format is crazy
What i really love is that LCK one split format. Lot of shenanigans going on in between but its pretty simlar to standard sport whole years leagues that are extremely consistent, every game matter and cant just focus on one side of the season.
Lck round 4-5 to me has the motto of "iron sharpens iron". My bjj coach used to say a black belt learns nothing destroying a white belt, and a white belt learns nothing by getting destroyed by a black belt, neither person gains any experience. Pick a similar skilled person for practice because iron sharpens iron. Very same for pro sports. Gen g gain nothing from stomping bro, amd bro cant learn anything. This way allows the top teams to constantly face the best in preperation for playoffs and eventually worlds, and the bottom 5 teams get time to actually improve by versing simmilar skilled opponents and not just stomped for multiple weeks straight.
It's gonna be amazing for LCK viewers, But i wonder how the 6th place team will feel like. Like imagine. youre 6th, like he said, you go through 5th team, 4th, 3rd, and 2nd team just to get into MSi. then after you get back from MSI, yuore not even in the top 5 teams, youre in the lower 5 teams and you gotta do a triple round robin, and even if you get first in your group, youre only in playins (not playoffs). and after that, you gotta do more BO5 just to be in the play offs, then after that, you gotta then beat the other teams which you probably havent had much matches with cause they were in a different group, and just getting into Worlds will be so fking hard cause you gotta beat the top 5 teams like T1, GENG, HLE, KT, DK just to get a spot in Worlds (but if LCK doesnt get a spot from MSI), only 3 teams will go and being 4th will mean absolutely nothing cause there is no spot for 4th.
i think if you win in that round where you go through 5th,4th,3rd,2nd you become 2nd like every win increases your seed like if you are 6th and you win first round you are 5th then if you win 4th and then if you win 3rd and then if you get to msi you become second so you are in the legend group and also who loses is downgraded one seed
지나가던 한국인입니다 이해를 못하시는 분들을 위해서 간단하게만 설명하자면 축구 경기라고 생각하시면 됩니다 축구도 약 1년동안 경기를 하는 리그 경기가 있고 컵 경기가 있고 국제대회[챔피언스리그] 있듯이 LCK도 컵 경기가 있고 리그 경기가 있고 국제 대회가 있습니다 라운드 1~5가 리그 경기라고 생각하시면 됩니다 월즈챔피언쉽 시드권은 MSI 성적에 따라서 3개팀이 갈지 4개팀이 갈지 자동으로 바뀝니다 기존에는 LCK가 스프링과 서머에 트로피가 2개였지만 이젠 트로피가 1개입니다 축구나 야구처럼 한시즌에 한개입니다
Honestly the LCK is going to be brutal for the 6th team no matter what. I mean imagine trying to make it to worlds when your competition is GenG HLE T1 DK and KT. Any format will be difficult just because that's how competitive the LCK has become.
If you can beat all 5th, 4th, 3rd and 2nd team, you probably wouldn’t be placed at 6th… it’s such a low possibility for that to happen.
And if a team is able to somehow pull off this miracle run for a MSI spot, they’ll just have to do the miracle run again for the world spot, which is even easier for a 4 spots region.
fearless draft is the thing that really shows which teams and players are actualy good and not just abusing the meta picks
Incoming unfunny "no views? fell off" comments
fell off
f u breaking the 4th wall like that
nahh real rats aren't that unfunny
The new LCK format is more meaningful and bonded to each other while The new LEC format is Just 3 different splits to qualify to different internationals😂😂😂
Godspeed to the editors in the future with the amount of games rat king is gonna have to watch with the LCK format changes o7
feels like there should be some reward for MSI winner to have a higher chance getting into worlds. Maybe not a guaranteed spot out of the three available, but something that makes it easier to get one of those spots
It is like that. I don't think they will change it next year.
Winner of MSI guarenteed a spot at worlds, if they made playoffs. It is not likely that the MSI winner falls of that hard to miss playoffs.
2nd best performing region got a 4th seed at worlds.
At least it was like this this year, likely these will be there next year too, and they will adjust it to each regions format during summer for the winner of MSI.
MSI winner will get a forth seed for their region too
This means that lck will play 3 games per day? WTH Holy caedrel 16 hour stream 10x meal a day is real , mukbang
Fearless draft will be such chaos I cant wait
only for the first split i guess
I think its soft fearless, which is kind of meh
Yay, clown fiestas for everyone! Who cares about high level play, just make every region a "for fun" region.
@@andresroncaglia7079 For LCK its hard fearless and it doesn't reset on game 5 so by game5 its 50 champs will be banned
@@Coco99021 I want to see Nilah Zil from that monstrosity dual that the World Champs force some poor souls in KDF taste last year
to summarise is this basically how Valorant does it with kick off, stage 1 and stage 2 basically, same with the international events too with the addition of this new one
I like LCk so much more than LEC. You should be rewarded for doing well in Spring. It is almost to your detriment to go to MSI in the LEC format because you end up “hungover” in the split that actually matters with no help from the prior split.
This means best teams will have to earn being top 6. Top 4, LEC needs to evolve imagine G2 with this format this year more changes of beating BLG. G2 needs to prove they can adapt,
bro lck format is harder that rocket science
Agree
15:30 This already happened in Valorant VCT and it was pretty shit tbh... so basically they wanted to implement that in league and try to fix the problems Valorant had all 2024 season. Outside of that i like the Format of the LCK
Before: I can neither confirm nor deny ill be at the O2 Arena.
Rat king streaming live at final, I wonder how many strays he will catch
Lck groups is basically cross teaming lmao, it’s crazy. I like it
It also has a strategy in it for the 3rd/4th teams for each group to pick weaker or the weakest teams to ensure that they get more wins than them if they know their group is going to win overall.
LCK format means more LCK revenue, more competitive games, more headliner games but less giant killing chances, BRO rolling GENG, NS taking their mandatory game against T1 etc. Hope these lower teams are still alright financially with less marquee games.
lck making sure they definetly have the best teams
Both LEC Summer and LCK Cup are set up so that the middle of the pack get extra stage games. It can often be an advantage just to have more games, and in previous LEC formats at least, it was often the top teams that got more stage time. It will be interesting if this results in a tighter pack of teams, skill-wise.
It hope its hard fearless and without reset in game 5. I really want to see player get more diverse and teams get more creative for their team comps. I wanna see them go DEEP in the tank
it's officially hard fearless without reset.
LCK format looks so insanely fun to watch, somewhat complicated but so well tought-out
An upper bracket team can still qualify for worlds by losing two Best-Of 5s, hence dominating Best-Of 3s is enough when your region gets 1st or 2nd at MSI (most likely LCK/LPL)
the LCK format STRESSES ME OUT
LCK making their lower tiers work their asses off. Too tiring but will produce good result instead of being in the top and waiting only
I generally the Fearless Draft change. I hope we see more of it in 2026. I'm just worried about game quality really going downhill with teams not picking their best champions anymore, especially in the early days of Fearless Draft, when teams have less experience on how to deal with that. LCK will probably be fine, but LEC 2024 was a complete shitshow, what is it supposed to be with Fearless Draft enabled?
ALL THE LCK CHANGES ARE HYPE WHAT
change the title to chat explains the formats to caedrel instead imo omE
PS: LCK Cup format incentivizes watching lower seeded teams' matches as well cause depending on who you support you re rooting for a bunch of other teams in your group to win as well so its pretty cool. I guess NS/BRO Fighting xdd
PS2: LCK Legend Group Cinema - bunch of top teams.. and damwon xdd
PS3: LCK Cup game 5 hard fearless Faker Zed Riven Prayge
He's not wrong about the amount of matches in the LCK Summer, I'm not sure why the LEC has a different amount of matches. I thought the LEC kept this Groups thing cause there was lesser time in Summer, but the LCK has an INSANE number of matches in the same time.
Since the triple Bo3 RR is within the smaller group, they don't play more games than a double RR with all 10 teams, but it's still a whole lotta games - especially the following play-ins and POs Bo5.
I just realized, if Gen G didn't win MSI this year then we wouldn't have T1 at worlds let alone the finals this year 😂.
T1 wiped floor with choky geng good thing that t1 is at worlds cause blg would also stomp geng
Lck has 4 seeds already though?
@@joshsay4307 winner of msi gets an extra seed in worlds, which was the lck
@@miaumiauu23 gen g won against blg last msi though but t1 winning is always good cause they are way more entertaining than gen g
@@tftpengu I guess I’m confused, why did the lpl get 4?
Crazy how much better and exciting the LCK format is compared to the shit fest LEC managed to invent AGAIN
LCK format changes are my favorite. Such unique style for winter FD while giving high amount of Bo3.
Lck format: wrist deatroyer simulator.
That LCK format is savage, but I like it.. it ensures we get more bo3's between the top 5 teams. Should be fun viewing.
I actually loved the new lck format it is spicyyyy
winter u can play 19/33 games, spring is 27/52 games and summer 17/35 games total = 63/120 games
50 champs ban np 160+ champs there's always more
LCK format looks insanely cool, to have a big championship at the beginning of the year and then making the LCK main event one big thing looks so cool, and jesus christ, this is A LOT of games.
Not a fan of how it's 3 separate formats for the splits. Kind of dumb.
It's just an easy way to test 3 formats in 1 year and then they will probably take the one that got the best reception and continue with that one instead of testing a new format every year for 3 years
@@Civtachopefully 3 splits is trash , just too much , hopefully they go back to 2 splits aswell in ranked
@@tryfergoodra552 they're having 3 splits in pro play because there's also gonna be 3 international tournaments next year (Winter, MSI, Worlds)
Either way there has to be two different formats minimum, because the time periods before the new international and MSI are significantly shorter than between MSI and Worlds.
@@plebbutter3811 Won't it be March - July - October? Two months between each event?
The importance of Spring Placement is way to high in the LCK.
And Summer Triple Round Robin in the Legend Group has so little impact because top4 go to playoffs directly anyway. It's 12 Bo3 just to skip one Bo5 in PlayOffs, since this is the difference between being first, second, third or fourth. It's only about not being fifth basically.
In PlayIns it might be better to lose on purpose in one of the later games, if the 3rd seed from the legend group feels easier than the 4th. Being able to pick your opponent for the higher seeded Teams was the better choice and this is a downgrade to last year overall.
Top 1-2 is pretty important no? And being 5th means you still have a chance of not qualifying for the playoffs given that you haven't played against the other 3 on the rise grp as well. But yeah, the games aren't as high stakes as the rise grp, but I think they're really trying to determine who deserves the top seeds and the quality of matches are high, and even if there isn't any bo5, it's like a bo3 of bo3s in a way. Given all that, it would be funny if they somehow dominated the legends grp and got eliminated in the playoffs come bo5s LMAO. A great LCK R1-5 and your season just ends not qualifying to worlds by losing two bo5s LOLLL
really good editing
Remove 1 slot from LEC. Its getting more entertaining to watch the minor region.
There's only major regions now. But, if they remove 1 from LEC, they could give back 4th to LPL/LCK teams each, because now one of them won't get a 4th seed, it'll get eliminated in a single Bo5 against 4th seeds and not make it to the Main Stage.
The time caedret explain the lck season format. I already forget the lec format ngl😢
Love the LCK Cup Format. Lets go group A!
So basically for the LCK cup T1 will be picked first
They should just do fearless without bans
Anyone wondering how LCK will fit all this in, currently LCK plays 90 Bo3s in a season, which they will still do in Spring. The new Summer split is going to be 60 Bo3s, meaning they're removing 3 weeks worth of games from their summer split to fit in an extra set of Bo5s.
Kinda hyped by the new formats. Really interested to see how LCK plays out. Love more games.
OooOoo I like fearless draft. The new format also seems more exciting
LCK 2025 is BRUTALLLL
Fearless draft is what I always wanted to see in major tournaments. Easily solve small champion pool being used in every tournament and makes matches even more interesting.
LCK format starts at 11:40
One thing I noticed about the LCK format is the teams in the Legend group do not play against any teams in the Rise group.
So the top 5 teams are playing against each other (in the Legends group) and the bottom 5 teams are playing against each other (in the Rise group) and only get to meet in the playins&playoffs. I could see that this might create a big gap in skill between the bottom 5 and top 5 teams
That's my worry as well, but I think the higher stakes on the rise group forces them to, idk, play better ig because of the threat of elimination for 2 teams. That might also put them on an advantage vs the 5th seed on the legends grp as they know more about what weaknesses that team has due to them being 5th seed and all. I kinda like it ig, Legends grp being high quality gameplay and Rise grp being higher stakes gameplay. It would then be satisfying to see one or two from the rise grp eliminating teams from the legends grp in the playoffs and maybe even qualifying for worlds. That's why they are in the 'Rise' grp I guess.
The amount of games in LCK....o7 Mr. Editor.
HOLY that format for the LCK Cup is so fuckin interesting and I love it so much
The seedings after "spring" are not the regular seedings they are after the playoffs for msi so first place regular can just be first if they win or second/third depending if they lose 1 or 2 times and Place 6 regular season can still go to legend group
the golden road for an LCK team looks near impossible now
at 26:40, think he meant spring, the competition before MSI. 6th place in "spring" and then come back as 6th in 'Rise Group' during Summer even if they win MSI
in hindsight, o7 T1. I don't think they can breathe next year with this format. here comes pobymygoat xdd
I'll start watching once everything is fearless draft
This is so when Faker retires after worlds. No one else can accomplish how much he did
Not sold on the summer LEC format. G2 wining winter, spring, having a bad summer and being out from worlds? The other 2 internationals are nowhere near the importance of worlds.
Just win the MSI and take a guaranteed slot :)
But actually, if the team is looking bad at summer, then how we can be sure that it will show up at worlds
If you do bad in summer, unless you win msi, you don’t deserve to go to worlds lmao
@mithilcherkadi9990 what about last summer split? MDK beat G2 in the first bo5 and then crashed and burned at worlds
@@thearcticpod They didn’t deserve to go to worlds?? They were an 8th place team and only made it because of their early year performance. That literally supports my argument lmao?
@mithilcherkadi9990 sorry if my comment was confusing. I meant if this format was used this year, G2 might have been eliminated from worlds, while MDK got to go to worlds.
LCK Cup format seems fun