Love and Marriage in Orthodox Jewish communities | "A Match Made in Heaven" - Part 2/3
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Film starts at 0:37. For the first time, Orthodox Jewish people in Israel allow a camera to enter their personal lives on an intimate level, enabling us to discover the wisdom behind their way of life, in the potential hope that we can apply some of it to ours. We take a look at relationships between men and women, between singles and their friends, and between them and their families. The story follows the protagonists on their quests for love, across a chronological series of dates.
Dating and matchmaking in the "Haredi" (ultra-Orthodox Jewish) world has always been mysterious and intriguingly different from the secular world. At a time when the institution of marriage in the modern secular world is about to go bankrupt - increasing divorce rates, infidelity, the trend of extended bachelorhood, single parenting, etc. - the question arises: where are we going wrong? And what is it about Haredi relationships that keeps them strong and stable? How does it work?
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In the documentary "A Match Made in Heaven" we explore the world of matchmaking in the different sectors of the Haredi world and observe couples in different stages of relationships, and through them, we learn about their behaviour, philosophy, and the key to a happy relationship and marriage. Through the participants' stories, we learn the values of relationships and marriage according to Judaism and how they actually apply them - very different from secular attitudes (love at first sight as opposed to love that comes with time; the women's role in relationships; the man's role). This is the first time that Orthodox Jewish people in Israel allow the camera to enter their close community, and through a different perspective to our own, lend valuable insight into a peaceful coexistence.
A Film by Ronnie Kay, Natalie Ginat & Shay Werker
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What is surprising the most, is the fact that these people are open to be filmed. Amazing.
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Same. It seems that these people are not as distant or closed off as others in their communities.
They may never see the documentary, though.
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I really didn't like the way the male matchmaker called divorced women 'used goods' because there were two people involved in getting divorced, not just the wife.!!!
Ancient mentality! Very common still in certain parts of the world.
It applies because women are chattel in orthodox / fundamentalist religions (that applies to all 3 large world religions)
he means non-virgin. yes, its pretty crude
Why don't they call the divorced man the same......
I’m divorced, as I’m sure you are. I took no offense to it. It’s accurate to a degree, I accept that.
As a medical doctor, I can attest the absurd said by the lady who mentioned that rats were given menstrual blood and died. Of course they would die, as there is something called "compatibility", which, in this case, it is not difficult to understand the fact that the blood of a rat is not compatible with the blood of a human being. If it were compatible, we would be raising rats in labs just to donate blood to humans, especially to women with heavy menstrual flow requiring blood transfusions.
If the "American labs" where they supposedly ran these menstrual blood tests injected a healthy man's blood into a rat, that rat would still die. Then what conclusion should be drawn??? A healthy man's blood is very toxic because when injected in rats they die???
This is the danger we still find in Orthodox Jewish Communities who alienate themselves from science and wisdom, which, by the way, was given to mankind directly by Hashem.
Shalom, shalom!
Thank God someone said this!
I came here in an outrage after hearing the Rebbetzin say that!! (The worst defilement on earth no less.) They get away with it because no one is allowed to watch tv, or use the internet or even study anything remotely secular after 8th grade. As for the sects that somehow allow college I am equally outraged to hear a grown woman in law school saying she wants a man to tell her what to do. And that the husbands better not want a job - the uneducated wives are here to pay all the bills while the man studies Torah all day then comes home and bosses everyone around. How are so many women just blindly accepting and allowing this to continue? I don’t care what religion it is when you’re subjugating women it’s just not ok!!! And believe me, get to the extreme edge of every religion they all do it. Be it a burka, Tzniut, Amish blandness or the Duggar version of “showcasing one’s countenance” - it’s just varieties of oppression cut from the same cloth.
Thank you for this information!!
I am from Pakistan and Estis mother reminds me so much of my mother: guilt trips me by crying. Emotional blackmail and guilt tripping at its finest !
Go back and listen to their dialog in Vid 1. Esti's mother is very wise
my mother roman catholic is just like that.
@Silvia C because mothers educate their daughters in this fashion. patriarchate.
@Silvia C i feel the same!!! since i was a little girl!!!
Esti's mother gave me a headache. She needs to get a grip.
The story about rats blows the mind. 😵 How ignorant this woman is to believe that
Mine too 😂 Thats an HUGE Education Problem
It’s interesting because judaism is quite an intellectual religion, the 10 commandments were incredibly well thought out and the first testament is full of very deep psychological lessons, it’s a religion based in scholarly yet dogma seems to stick around.
Me too, I'm mindblowed
Plenty of guys - regardless of faith and beliefs - want a young girl, and then complain about her being immature and not being as mature and sophisticated as he'd wish :) :)
My mother is like Esti's...It is hard to explain to her that what she sees as happiness may not be everybody's version of happiness. This kind of conversation is even harder with an orthodox mum...
Whilst I support everyone having their own religious beliefs, the concept of menstrual blood being toxic is not only deeply offensive to me, it is factually incorrect.
exactly! i lost it when she talked about rats experiment...
It was a ridiculous statement. Utterly, really.
It’s deeply ignorant.
Yes, to teach such things is sad and offensive
It is disgusting wtf
Esti's mother needs to find herself a hobby. Seriously.
Man your culture is better than mine!!! As an orthodox traditional Indian I had to nod my head to accept marriage to a guy strictly arranged by parents on the 'girl seeing' ceremony where my husband came with his family to eat and drink and see me to nod his head in acceptance too!
Esti's mom is a true artist in the traditional Jewish medium of guilt.
I never thought I'd get to see a Jewish mother in action. Something I can now cross off my bucket list.
viridianstar terrible. Shameless with the ‘what would the neighbors think!’ And the touching and god knows what else! I think mom could use a good romp it might loosen her up a bit with that guilt
I know, she's only 18. that's why she doesn't know what to do.
I can only wish for this type of power :)
Esti’s mum is next level. Ariel looked so harmless lol
Who is here after watching Un Orthodox on Netflix?
Sylvia Yousef I think I've watched 30 others as well. So interesting
and Shtisel!
Me. I find it fascinating to see how other people live. So I watched Shtisel also.
I am I've never wanted to learn more than now after watching that show
I came here after watching "Hitler".
So sad the mother crying to guilt the 18yr old into rushing her decision. You rush her and she end up a divorcee like the 24 year old. If you trust your child, don't assume she will have sex. Her father does not seem to be the same as her. He is more wise and thoughtful, unlike the mom that thinks 18 is old and worries about gossiping friends of hers.
You are mistaken. The father simply relies on the mother to handle it. That’s all.
@@Celisar1 Yeah, I was thinking the same. They have separate roles. She's the artist of the guilt, but she probably has her reasons, because she knows better about their own community. Unfortunately a bad reputation is still easily attainable in some places on earth. Touching hands, godforbid! You cannot touch your bf but you have to satisfy him on the first night? At 18?
It works there in 2021 just like it worked elsewhere until 60 years ago.
This needs to be a reality show!!
Is it just me or does it seem like their conversations are so much less superficial than the conversations in the general population. It’s like a culture without small talk.
Certainly not in general. These are important topics and the young people have incredibly little as basis for a very important decision. Of course they have intense discussions with others about it.
"A woman's menstruation period is the biggest defilement on earth",
That's a bit harsh 😕
Obviously she’s never heard of Deepwater Horizon and Chernobyl.
I find this very different from western thought and values but their is beauty in this as well. The fact that there are match makers trying to help create stable and healthy marriages is good. In America, there is much less support for the average person who is truly looking for a partner.
It’s a business , they don’t give a shit really. A successful “match”, after three dates, nets them a fee from both sides.
@@23Dawnay Maybe they do, maybe they don't. At least the service is there. Not many services are free.
Are you serious? This is nothing more than wife selling
@@evarene07 The inability to see things from another perspective even if you disagree with it is arrogance. There are many cultures that do not have the level of “open dating for all” but have much lower levels (not obsolete) of societal instability. Yes there are those who will feel that this way is not beneficial but even in countries where women have all the freedoms allowed, some end up feeling this way. So yes I am serious because it is my opinion not yours.
Yeah it's so mechanical "he's ready, are you?". I'm blown away how quickly they become serious, I can talk to a guy for ages without thinking he's the one for me. All of the excitement typically disappears in a few weeks, and they're talking wedding by then!
Wonderful documentary! Am waiting for a sequel to learn what happened to the protagonists!!!!
Thank you!
Find it out here: ruclips.net/video/ms9wKE-1k68/видео.html
@@wocomodocs Thank you! Coincidentally I found it myself but nevertheless, thanks a lot!!
@Domenico Capuana
Who had 6 kids?
And what are their names and ages?
Apr 15, 2020 @ 9:00 am.
A woman LOVES BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO?!?!?!!?! omg.
Lisa I was cringing 😬
I have only ever had relationships where men see me as their mother. I would love to have a partner who made some decisions on my behalf for a change. I think that this is what this girl is saying?
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I would absolutely hate someone telling me what to do.
Never!
These are some very beautiful women and super dorky guys who have little going for them but expect the women to light them on fire. For a woman this life sucks, no wonder they wants kids ASAP
He doesn't want a wife that makes requests 🤣🤣
He is soo ewe , i have a really bad feeling about that one.
This reminds me of Ireland in the 50s and 60s!
Thank you for allowing me into your world ❤️
I don’t know what Ireland you lived in, but it absolutely was not like this ! Thank god !!
WTF he pretty much wants to create a completely different personality to "impress and figure out" a girl, and once she agrees, he suddenly shows his true face and the poor girl pretty much marries a different person! Dude is only thinking about himself, that's sick!
That y is they meet is to talk a smart girl can see to whom she going ro marry but by the secular girls there they sleep same-day and if they dont like him just pick up self and go for an other guy that not good the parents got for a background not only the man but his family till their 5 priors genwration dont worry wee doing this now 57781 years and work mush. Better than the no jewish famy
He is very ARROGANT
That happened to me, the change after the marriage ceremony, it was devastating. He stopped acting, became abusive and controlling, dishonest and deceitful. He was looking at every single woman he saw (in the wrong way), he'd literally nearly break his neck to see if the car in front of us was driven by a woman then wouldn't take his eyes off of her until he saw another, I couldn't even go to the grocery store with him. . He'd go on hunting trips in the camper, alone, and I found a pornographic poster under the mattress, a TV and porno movies he'd rented, it was so disgusting, hurtful and shameful. He was controlling and gaslighted me so much that I left, with him screaming at me every time I loaded the truck while moving. I worked so hard to get us a house and home, it was all for nothing.
@@GodzHarleyGirlStudio I'm sorry to hear that. I hope at least you kept the house and will have new happiness in your life.
Which one?
The loyalty and love for their family is admirable.
used goods - are you kidding me? What a degrading statement. She is divorced, that is all there is.
Marina28ish She isn’t a virgin anymore, and that’s pretty important for them. She isn’t “brand new” to an Orthodox man anymore.
@@carlosmarte3154 She knows that Carlos.It's still an offensive thing to say to a woman.
@@carlosmarte3154 I'm pretty sure she does. As independent women, we are highly offended by any culture that degrades women and subjugates them to protect the fragile male ego :)
Hilary C They’d (Hasidic men and women alike) take just as much offense to our culture. A culture that throws family values out of the window in favor of individuality and hedonism.
It isn’t a system that looks down on women, it’s a system that looks down on divorce...which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There is no “better” way to live. Each system has its flaws, yet people seem to believe that ours is unquestionably better.
Hilary C One of the main tenets of their religion is to procreate. The only value a Hasidic man or woman has comes from their ability to have a family and give Yahweh a new generation of followers. This comes back to what I was talking about earlier. We place a higher importance on the material side of a relationship, marriage for them is more of a social contract...love is a byproduct of marriage, not a prerequisite. You’re here to procreate and worship Yahweh, not for intellectual fulfillment. That applies to males and females.
They believe that menstruation is the punishment for Eve’s original sin, and the chances of becoming pregnant during menstruation are low; it makes sense for them to have such a low opinion of a process borne out of sin that prevents pregnancy. As for the censorship, they do it to prevent themselves from disobeying their God. Their mission is to procreate and worship, everything else is a distraction. Forcibly barring yourself from whatever it may be is common among all hardliners (whether political, religious, etc).
Women aren’t second class citizens, they just have a different role to perform in the community. A stay at home father would be criticized for not doing his duty, and the same would apply to a mother that’s out working instead of nurturing her children. Women are free to seek out a partner that encourages them to work, and men are free to find partners that prefer to stay at home. No one is being forced or made into a possession.
These rules and customs seem absurd to you and I both, but that’s no reason to look down on the way they do things. They are free to leave the community and become regular practicing Jews whenever or if ever they wish.
I m enjoying this 3 part series but there's too many repeated scene's on to the last one now x
True.
Oh Dan was so sweet on the first meeting. You could see how every question was just one right thing after the next.
By the way, I would marry Merav.
She is smart, pretty, sweet, studying for a degree and expects her husband to have a degree and respectful profession.
My disadvantage is that I am originally from Brazil, and my Hebrew is not that great.
Merav, if you don't find your soulmate in Israel, come to Miami.
oh that's sweet!
LOL absolutely love Ariel's parents.
This documentary is so amazing, it makes me very emotional, choosing the right partner is soooo important, and of course we need guidance, advises.... and so on.
I like how they pick and choose which elements of natural life given by God are good and bad..........or toxic. I thought my eyes were going to roll out of my head here.
I really enjoyed this. I love the guy who is unsure and questioning. Don't do it if it didn't feel right. The girl he met had 0 chemistry towards him and he don't feel like a cherished king. Most of the guys seem very nice and gentle, but the girls appear too strong and aggressive. Weird. I hope they find the perfect match.
18:43 oohh he expresses such a happiness for his friend, its so cute
Esti's mother is sure a Jewish mother - the guilt showering stereotype.
THAT'S what it's like in THAT mileu. It's very commen, you notice both the children agree & understand her pain & concern? Perhaps y'all can learn & not bitch?
Very similar to mothers from Southern Italy or Greece. I guess it’s a Mediterranean thing
Rose, an American mother here.... I was so surprised how Esti's mother talked to her!...no daughter here would let a mother talk to her like that...I would love to, though. They would think we were bossy, and none of our business, and not even care how we felt. So sad, I think I would rather be Jewish, and my children tolerate a Mother's heart, feelings, and tears of concern shed for them.
@@singmysong1167 being (Orthodox) Jewish is much easier than being secular... you've your whole live planned and guided for you from day 1 to the last day!
And I'm sure they're living a happier life than us
my mother roman catholic is just like that.
What is wrong with that marriage counsellor than she was talking about menstrual cycle. I laughed so hard at her ignorance. Menstrual blood is not poisonous. I for one would not have intercourse when i have my period, but she is making it out to sound that the woman is also poisonous. She used the example with the lab rats to say it is poisonous. Menstrual blood is mainly composed of blood, old parts of the uterine tissue, cells from the mucus lining of the vagina and bacteria making up the vaginal flora. What is wrong with these ill informed advisors. Smdh!!!!
Well, God says she is unclean on her cycle. Even I, a Christian, knows what the Old Testament says about it. Just because we know the science of what it is doesn't change the Law that God has made.
I agree. First of all, that girl had been married before, so she's probably familiar with the laws she has to abide by (check when her period is over, then count another seven days etc) so there was no need at all to spew out these lies about menstrual blood being the most unclean thing there is in the world ever EVEEEEER :D Which isn't even true according to jewish law, as far as I know - touching a corpse is the most ritually unclean thing. And the lab rats experiment definitely never happened, that whole shtick is completely ridiculous.
All religion is poisonous
@@savedbygrace1582 It does if it's a load of complete and utter unsubstantiated nonsense. The Old Testament and creationism is pure and unadulterated foolishness! Please pickup a book and start reading science
I am an orthodox jew. I am a professional with a college degree. I subscribe to what was said. From your comment it is evident that you are missing a lot of the background behind that scene. I am not saying this as a negative statement only as a fact. Anyone Jewish reading this who was also troubled by those remarks can reach out to me for clarification.
Toxic menstruation blood? Yikes! Did they ever think the rats might have died from having strange blood in their system? 🙄
I'm from a Jewish family which hasn't been religious (thank god) for 100 years. What I love best about the Jews I know - is their love of talking - not a boring one in the entire lot. What I like least is their love of talking....on and on and on ... sometimes saying noting.
We need a series!!!
I feel so sorry for Etsi her mother is putting so much pressure on her, saying friends were asking about her and its a disgrace. What sane person would say that to her daughter. I've 2 girl 15 and 23, I would never say anything like that. I love and respect my girls to make their own choices in their life and love life.
They are part of a different culture.
So glad I was raised Lutheran. My mother said to take my time. No pressure. I couldn't deal with this.
I think many are missing the point. These aren't marriages of love. These are basically business deals which hopefully result in successful reproduction to keep the faith tradition populated. They are looking for business partners with similar traditions and focus, not soul mates.
Esti's mother is absolutely crazy. What an overbearing and overly emotional mother.
OhMaDayzz I would disagree . Her mother is well aware of the community they live in. If Esti loses her virginity during one of those ‘dates’ she would be the untouchable, nobody would marry her. I think her mom is absolutely right , if he wants to be with her, then marry her.
Not to be insulting, but you don't know what crazy is if you think Esti's Mom is crazy. Yes, she was emotional and emphatic in her views. But then this is her daughter's future that was at stake. Young Orthodox girls don't have so many years to find a husband before it's assumed that they are single because something is wrong with them (this what I hear.) I've heard that it's considered unusual if they are not married by age 20.
certifiable.
Dude, what is the problem with Esti's mom, my god poor girl !!!?? She always makes a drama for nothing...seems annoying
Ilham Try to understand where she’s coming from. Her daughter is getting to the age where no one will marry her, and she’s been on date after date with this guy when the custom is to marry after 4-5. People will start to think that she’s just sleeping around with him, and then her marriage will really be impossible.
Ilham negative you are she's just 18 .
'A woman's menstruation period is the biggest defilement on earth' ... life is too short for such bullshit. It saddens me though that some women buys into it when it obviously comes from some ignorant men. It's accepted body shaming.
IT was startling and confusing to read that one young woman is in love with a "gentile" which is a mistake in the subtitles and should read "gentle".
Ok I’m some random guy in Australia who is not Jewish. This is actually a really peaceful, nice documentary. And I’ve developed a crush on Benny. He is hot and seems really nice. I hate the way his friend ditches him in the end.
I ovulate early, if I were to practice the 7 day period I would not have had a child.
Angela Brown that’s gross
Not really an issue. If this is the case then all the couple has to do is for the wife to go to a doctor to verify it and the doctor writes a note to the rabbi that the waiting period needs to be less than 7 days. The rabbi then grants permission for the couple have sex before the 7 day period. ends.
Menstruation is not a poison
Mom had crocodile tears! She just wants grandkids NOW! XD
I think there are good aspects with Orthodox Jewish people and not so good aspects. It just seems so primitive to me how the mother's practically are forcing their daughter's to get married so quickly. Barely turning 18 and already making appointments to see the match maker. Do the daughter's have no right to make decisions on their own ? Are they not allowed to experience life and work, go on vacations, have fun with friends ? Or is there fear of the daughter's being touched before marriage. I understand values, purity and the sanctity of marriage but to explain over and over to your daughter's that menstrual blood is poisonous and it killed lab rats ? I'm sorry, but I had to laugh at the pure ignorance of what that woman said. It's crazy smh..
I think she meant well but by telling your daughter's this false lie is just that "a lie". You're starting your daughter's out with a lie and my goodness the "pressure" of getting married so the mother doesn't get blamed for her daughter still not married or being cursed because she cannot find a suitable mate ! 😱‼️
These are not your garden variety Orthodox Jews. They are ultra Orthodox fundamentalists.
La última madre llorando, es la clásica madre castradora y generadora de culpas que cree que si la hija de 18 años no se casa pronto, está destinada a ser una pobre infeliz.
"Vive y deja vivir".
The marriage counsellor is meshuggah! What a load of rubbish! Menstrual blood is not toxic! It's sad how menstruating is seen as a big shame in the orthodox community. I do like some aspect of orthodox Judaism such as the close family bonds and it must be nice to go on dates knowing that the guy isn't just after one thing. I do get that separating during menstruation can be a good thing as it makes the couple want each other more but personally I wouldn't go to that extreme of not touching at all or waiting so long to be "clean". Why wait another week after your period is finished? Although I do admire aspects of orthodox Judaism, it does seem to me to be very oppressive. I feel sorry for these girls and boys being forced to get married so young; they're only kids and they haven't experienced life. I'm 27 and the idea of getting married is scary! Watching this makes me think about what lunacy and rubbish religion is when people take it to the extreme.
they are waiting for another week after the period is over to have sex..well someone just created a perfect set of rules for them .. since it's an ovulation time .means more babies.
Yes it is. It isn't nonsense. Read Dr. Zondeks study on the matter. With menstrual blood collected under sterile conditions, no issues. With menstrual blood collected under non-sterile conditions, such as in a normal room, the mortality rate of the rats shot through the roof.
Yes it is. It isn't nonsense. Read Dr. Zondeks study on the matter. With menstrual blood collected under sterile conditions, no issues. With menstrual blood collected under non-sterile conditions, such as in a normal room, the mortality rate of the rats shot through the roof.
....p/s....it’s * ‘messhugenneh’.....
@@SnyderBearFarm Did he try the same thing with men's blood from, lets say, their fingers? Inject a poor animal with a sterile and non-sterile version of the blood and draw conclusions from that?
I worked with a Hassidic family years ago, and read some of their books. I got the idea that dating wasn't something talked about like Esti's Mom is doing at 46:15, talking about it with others.
I think these are not the most extreme. Just that they allow someone to film them like this, shows that they are pretty open minded to begin with.
"A women's menstruation is the biggest defilement on earth" she lost me there. How bizarre and wacky.
Oh boy I'm hooked now, did the scribe marry the girl with braces? He's rights, she's mechanical. Send him to me 😂
Coming from ignorance here.. just who gives these Sephardic men the ability to do no work but to merely study? Having large families , who is feeding them? Enlighten me please? For Petes sake, so much nonsense..
Ashkenzi men too..not just Sefardi men
Well, at least you know from whence you come. Look, it's iimpossible to comment appropriatly when you don't have any building blocks of knowledge to speak from. This goes for all these comments. Your pissing on a culture you have no clue about, and that's just WRONG. Either listen politely to a world you don't know, or change the channel. I don't agree with it all either, but I'm familiar with it. It's THEIR way, I don't try to make them accomodate me, but when I'm with them..."When in Rome" - I show respect. More than any of you are.
Has nothing to do with respect @Ellen Abramowitz, Elizabeth asked a simple question.
@@walruslatte6080 "So much nonsense" isn't a simple question, it's a judgement on something she knows nothing of.... That's ignorance.
Alright, fair enough. So do you know how the men are able to do no work but merely study?
I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE A CONTINUATION OF THIS SO INTERESTING.
There's a part 3 (final part)
I'd wager that 90% of the negative comments about the customs portrayed in this documentary come from people who think of themselves as non-judgmental and open-minded.
My only criticism is the occasionally sloppy English subtitles. At one point, Ariel is described as "gentile." I'm pretty sure the translator was going for "gentle," but it's an unfortunate (perhaps even humorous) gaffe.
I noticed that too. Can you imagine how Esti's mom would react if she ran off with a real Gentile! Holy moly.
I assumed they meant genteel. I think that was on purpose.
Very interesting show.... I wish them all much happiness.
I love the Jews so much, but am even happier I am not under all the laws they have to obey. Grace is a wonderful gift. Bless Israel. Shalom to Jerusalem. And may Hashem lead all the young people filmed to their chosen Husbands and wives.🙏🏽♥️✡️🇮🇱Amen. Love Tina from Australia.🇦🇺✝️♥️
Jeff until the day I die I will say I respect the Jews Jesus was king of them why do people dislike them what did they do wrong
Interesting culture. Very close knit, old skool. Thank you for the video.
I don’t understand these 5 minute meetings, “dates” as they call them. What can you learn about a person in 5 minutes? It’s not enough time. Say the wrong thing, and you’ve completely messed up and won’t have another meeting.
I agree completely. I don’t understand how a couple can only see each other a few times before getting engaged, as I would want to live with my partner for at least a year before deciding to spend the rest of my life with that person.
And what have we learned with our 5 year long dates? If our divorce rate is any indication, well, not so much.
These 5 minute dates are probably for This Video. Don't think there is such a thing anywhere.
You're right , the dates are certainly longer!!
@@victuals Divorce rate now is no real indication. A lot of misery go on behind walls of perfectly married people.
When divorce was illegal in many countries there was no divorce and families stayed put together, no matter what.
I want a highly intelligent woman with self awareness to be subsurvent to me, her husband. Anyone can spot the fault?
This is how dating should be, with respect and raising important questions because you looking for to spend your life with that person and create a family. wow!
Todays dating its like animal fair.
As an Orthodox Christian I was so glad to have such an insight on the society from which my religion originated from!
They all seem to be very nice people and wish the best in all their lives!
Greetings from Romania!
That mother was such a bully. She wants the daughter married and out.
Mr. Perfect why bully ? They are religious they need to get married they don't sleep around. In israel the parent support the children's after the weeding.they buy house for them .so how can't you say they want them out ?
I'm not Jewish but I can understand the mom's point of view. Dating for years on end gets kind of pointless. And most of the time, one of the people in the relationship is only staying with the person for companionship or sex until they meet someone better. It is the woman that suffers in that kind of situation because our biological clock ticks way faster. I truly think the mother had good intentions and wanted her daughter to be spared that pain and to have a happy marriage and life.
Why their dates are "dry"??..sitting on a bench ..go for a drink..A coffee something to eat 😂😂😂
Also they last like 5 mins only.
Because they have like 45min max on all their dates combined.
How can menstrual blood be poisonous when its food for embryo?
@Mrssewhardtoplease lmao! Check it out. Its true. This blood that disgusts us so much was actually our first food 😂
For these ignorant religion fanatics because it's blood it's seen as some sort of evil. In some Indian believe a woman was isolated from her entire family for the whole 7 days I believe, until she stops bleeding.
The blood is the failed embrio and uteres lining that would of protected the fetits if it would have grown so it is kind of a dead kid.
@@1BestCookie its not kind of a dead kid because in a usual cases if we get our periods there was no embryo to begin with. And if there is an embryo it nurishes from the blood. So menstruation is our 1st food.
Because that blood is in a sterile environment. Read Dr. Zondeks study on the matter. With menstrual blood collected under sterile conditions, no issues. With menstrual blood collected under non-sterile conditions, such as in a normal room, the mortality rate of the rats shot through the roof.
What the heck is that woman telling that girl about her period... such BS...making stuff up. OMGoodness
If you are a Jew or a Christian you have God's Law on this. Read His Word and see for yourself.
Its religious not scientific.
@@savedbygrace1582 How about you read it and get facts!
korpiz then why did she make up a medical study?
@@porcelainpinup4302 .
I born jew but if you ask me I don't believe in nothing of this madness and I think If you believe in all this crazy histories of Tanakh you need medical help... All I need is science, nature, respect other human being and animals
What changed your opinion?
Ervin Holtz same here.
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I don't think her opinion was changed, it's the way the Jewish system works.
It's a very complicated religion, and very hard to follow,as there are many levels of Judaism. Although it doesn't make you less Jewish, some families are not as religious as others, like in a lot of Faith's.
I live in a extremely Orthodox area in the Uk
and see many different ways of this religion.
I wouldn't be welcome in some of their shops, as I wouldn't be able to follow their dress code, arms, head, uncovered.
It's their way of life, they don't preach to anyone to be like them, keep themselves to themselves, the one's I do have contact with are very nice warming people, you never hear bad words, no bad mouthing, very pleasant community to live with.
These are incredible brave people who are willing and able to make a commitment. And our youth are so inadequate, it is appalling ...
This was truly beautiful .. I admire these pure and holy values of Judaism . If the rest of the world had these same values the divorce rate around the world would shrink astronomically ! Sexual disease would probably be a thing of the past as well .. Shalom Aliechem !
Love it. love the innocence of it all. Would like my kids to try to live with TV and internet. Speak your mind. Living humbly...
What I see: The whole world is obsessed with the Jews, their state, and their way of life, or absolutely anything about Jews in general, and in the same manner the secular Jews are obsessed with the Orthodox Jews, and their way of life.
And for that I feel very special!!!
The comments from the bride's instructor about menstrual blood being the most toxic substance on earth and making rats die are positively medieval.
Esti's mother is the stuff of lifelong psychological problems.
She's a meddler and a manipulator but all these kids who want to marry are mostly controlled by the adults around them.
She is a true drama queen.
What? She wants to protect her child and to marry properly. Nothing wrong with that. Compare her to your mother and many those around you that allow their daughters to sleep around with different guys.
Personally, I think Esti's mother has very valid concerns, given what behavior is considered normal in her community. And even though she said she was worried about Esti and Ariel eventually "touching" before marriage, I think her real fear is that if they date too long, the mystery will be gone. Can anyone else see that Esti and Ariel have very different personalities? She is very aggressive, and Ariel is more subdued. I think Esti's mother is afraid Ariel will get tired of her daughter or start to see traits in her he doesn't like - and then want to break off the dating and/or engagement. I really believe she was just using the issue of "touching" as an excuse.
Esti's mother is similar with my mom. I dont fit with this guy not also that guy not that not this then she gets hurt by that
This is so beautiful. I was truly inspired, it makes me wants to go back to my 20's and make the right choices.
I really feel sorry for the divorced lady
I am half way through this film and wonder, how do people get a divorce in the culture? All this talk of marriage and nothing about the backgrounds of those who have been divorced. Why did it not work out? Why isn't the man "used goods" if he too has been married before? How do the different branches of Jewish communities relate to one another? Apparently they don't really as they don't want to intermarry. But that fact makes genetic diseases more likely within communities that continue to intermarry. They need fresh genes in the mix as well as some fresh air for the lungs and new ideas for the mind!
March, 2019
Learning so much, and more questions arise.... Many comments about the menstrual cycle, as touched up on during the film... It dawned on me, while watching the film, that Brides - if they wish to satisfy their husband - and themselves - on the Wedding night, That the date of the wedding itself, has to be carefully calculated, according to her cycle, and where it falls...
Are there rules about this, am I being accurate , that that would be a concern, and do others get involved - Are they made aware of reasons for certain dates being required or; put off ?
Very astute! in some circles yes. But now mostly they rely on pills.
March, 2019
Thanks, I was going for astute !!
I've watched a large numbers of videos over the last few days...Incredible ( insular ) world out there, full of rules and restrictions - where the most personal decisions are guided by / decided by...The Rev.
Saw a very nice film - Israeli - '' The Womens' Balcony, dealing with some of the issues touched upon. Well worth the view .
I so enjoyed this special on The beautiful Hasids. If only EVERYONE had the rich attitude of that young boy! What a world it would be!
What’s amazing is that the people giving them advise are not telling the truth. The blood will not kill anything.
Shakes my head at their thinking that a woman's period is horrible and shameful and she has to distance herself and then go get purified, if it was so awful, then why did God make women have one? For me it's a beautiful thing, without it there would be no new life, it should be worshiped and honored. Esti's mother is being over dramatic
Why are these people all so desperate to get married so young?
Because western godless lifestyle doesnt offer a thing. Guys using as much as possible girls and crying at 40 women are all feminist whores. And girls have countless relationships, getting 40 loosing their sparkle and stay lonely.
Why not taking life serious from the beginning and taking responsibility.
Western lifestyle is just playing egoistically around and calling it freedom. Never getting mature, but accusing other lifestyles weird.
Yes, you are free to destroy your soul and staying lonely and live a selffocused life. But dont expect a warm bubbly family life then.
Sal Sa no such thing as god get real
Exactly my point!
@@s.c.7381 , the fact that you would refer to women as "whores" let's me know everything I need to know about you.
@@1stsharkb8 have you read the sentence?? Women who are less strict in their sexual life are titled whores from men who themselves have no boundaries in in their life.
I mean the same men using women like toilet paper are not respectful to women who are like themselves. But thats the price everyone has to pay...
There's a very tragic thread that runs thru this... RUCHNIUS is not there.
My my so many questions. If I did this, I will finally RUN AWAY from this guy. Look , we cannot be satisfied entirely.
@7:40 I'll ask the Rabi what he thinks!!! wow !!! The entire nation depend on Rabi's ? I wonder why? is it the Rabi the one marrying?
Not the enitre nation. These are more like sects, who each follow a rabbi. Most Israelis are secular or somewhat traditional, and take rational decisions basd on modern science, not what a rabbi says.
Thank you so very much for your kind elaboration, gladly appreciated, I was wondering why he has to ask another human being who has nothing to do with his affairs….
We all have been raised different cultures, different faiths and different upbringings but in reality its 2018 and I hope all prejudices and pains must be buried and love must be the one counts instead of few minutes or few hours gambling of one's lives to strangers
rabbi.
@@ceecee7243 But your statement is off. They ask their Rabbi's for advice and wisdom. It's similar to someone secular going to a therapist or professor for advice. They believe that their Rabbi would be able to give an objective insight to different situations in life.
38:23 What did Ariel's mother mean when she said, "That explains how she looks." Was that a compliment or a put-down? Also, Esti is NOT low-maintenance!
I was wondering the same thing, but I think she meant that since he isn't drinking he will find a pretty girl. They say people look better when you'r e drunk.
Pretty sure she meant esti is skinny. Totally agree she’s not low maintenance.
That was a put down from my point of view. I can see jealousy towards the future wife of her son!! A bad future mother in low. Esti will have problems with her.
Ah, that makes sense.
it was a compliment. ilanit meant that esti looks great because (ilanit thinks) esti doesn't drink.
This has to be a joke. At approximately 25:10, Lily gives the crappiest advise that: "They, (the rats), were injected with blood of a menstruating woman in America".
Boy, I think that Lily is giving Bila such bull that her nose is growing.
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Apr 22, 2020 @ 9:10 am.
That was pretty odd. I wonder what happened if you inject rats with ANY kind of human blood? They'd probably die no matter what.
Watch the Netflix movie ", One of Us" and "Unorthodox"
Human menstruation can kill a lab rat??? !
Sure. And if a woman touches a plant while she is menstruating, the plant will die...these people are nuts.
Sure, it's common knowledge. And a drop of vaginal discharge can kill an army. Why would anyone worry about it, if it wasn't so? Think about it.......
It's a terrible lie to make women feel unclean like that.
Jane Smith Then tell God he lies since that is His Law. It's even in the Christian Bible in the Old Testament.
If any blood were given to a mouse from another species, it would die. If we are given incompatible blood from another human, we would die. If a mouse received any blood from a human it would die. Duh.
wow, I want ro know who married and who didn't ..
Find out in the last part of the documentary! ruclips.net/video/ms9wKE-1k68/видео.html
To think that according to what I‘ve heard it’s a wide spread American custom to have sex after the third date- and here they have only three dates to choose a lifelong partner…
Not a widespread custom, at all. I don't know a single person who acted this way! I don't have any idea where you got this impression, it must have been a television drama, but that is not reality.
All I hear is Khkhkhkhkhkhkhkhkh
Repulsive, khkhkhkh, isn't it?
khushskushsh
not as repulsive as you @@janetwunder3000
Ahhh... @@frank1903
@@janetwunder3000 Go clean your bedroom, Janet!
How come these guys seem to wear hats that are too small for their heads?
I am extremely interested in your films ,but the subtleties are not on long enough to read. Perhaps the people talk fast as a community. I am truly interested on insight of the culture.
too fast the subtitles should be slowed down PLEASE
Deborah Kane slow down the speed at the top of the video in the settings
I found it repulsive that private Jewish laws regarding niddah are presented to the public on a RUclips video. Private is private, it's ridiculous to copy the secular world where privacy is not cherished anymore and everyone is privy to things that are supposed to be cherished by being kept hidden.
And I find it absolutely repulsive AND nausciating the way that that the niddah teacher spoke about menstrual blood. As an Orthodox Jew, I want to clarify that niddah teachers would never say that a but there are always exceptions to the norm such as in this case...
The laws of family purity are there so that husband and wife should find excitement in their relationship, not get used to being intimate and therefore losing the excitement, but every month should be another chance to reignite the flame.
last one, is same as my mother.even we are not religious family, from my first boyfriend, she pushed me or to marry or to leave him. For every boyfriend she said- he is using you, he doesnt want to marry, leave him, leave him, preshured me to end relation. She expected to get married after 2 months. saying she wants the best fotr me. Then she came often with her matching of guys who I didnt liked, but she liked their status and they was rich. saying Im stupid for not being with them, even after few years she is mentioning some ricg guy, who called me few time on date, her match.
Similar story different religion but I had to say my mom choose them poor she thinks poor men are better husbands Long story short I’m marrying my rich boyfriend Even though she’s my mom and I love her but I’m not gonna let her dictate my status
Very interesting Mazel Tov
literally type anything just trying to learn something and the word EXPELLED comes up so many times from the EXTREME LEFT search engine google its pretty insightful and hilarious