I was stationed at Baghdad International Airport with an Army Reserve unit in 2004. Up until September, we had the run of the airport. I got up close to that DHL A300 parked nearby other Iraqi Airways aircraft. Seeing the damage first hand, it made me appreciate how remarkable it was that they were able to successfully land that plane.
I was stationed at BIAP with my MI Army National Guard Company. I was returning to BIAP from leave about that time. The day I left on leave was the day the Chinook was shot down. That worried my parents until Mom realized I was based at BIAP and wouldn't have been on the Chinook. Great duty providing comm to many units including the FBI. In January 04, we jumped to Mosul. We were back in March. We left for Kuwait and home via Ft. Riley in April.
@@klsc8510 a chinook was shot down? I know the whole walnut shavings in the gearbox problem. Oh you mean when they took out the whole chinook of army and navy special forces. What a waste that was. Punk ass kid had a lucky shot. Not to mention not enough resources as they should have had apaches with them.
My understanding and knowledge of aviation is precisely zero but you dont have to be a pilot to know what incredible flying these guys did that day. The pilots deserve all the accolades.
@@arianebolt1575 "Parallel Parking, in a difficult Driver's Test" (With Apologies, to, "The Fifth Dimension." You know what they say/said: "This is the Dawning of the Aga of Aquarius.")
Narrator: will they get back to Bagdad and survive? Me: Given you have been showing me clips of you interviewing the pilots for the last 30 minutes, I think so...
Sams are usually fired at fighter aircraft and the sa7 is a deadly weapon not meant to be fired at a unarmed delivery plane, a horrendous cowardly act to do this
That's the definition of terrorism. Cowardly attacks against unprotected civilian targets. Ugly, cowardly, despicable but highly effective to ruin enemy's morale.
I'm with DHL, where teamwork is an every day thing and I must say this is some OUTSTANDING TEAM WORK! They kept their cool and relied on their experiences and skills. It's an honor to be working with you heroes! 💯👍👍👍
Yep teamwork is key, i did my traineeship at DHL here in germany but sadly the quality here is dropping year after year cuz DHL employees now days so many imigrants and unlearned ppl with lower salerys and "most" of them working like they don't care about the stuff.
Not denigrating their great achievement in any way - but what other choice did they have? It was either be professional pilots and try to save their lives, or flip out and die. Were I in their situation, I'd do the former - not the latter.
@@dragineeztoo61 In that very stressed situation they had the nerves to improvise in the best possible way. Their acting was invented, on the fly, never practised in the simulator. All stressed pilots have not managed to do that.
Of the 3 similar incidents with JAL, United and DHL the DHL crew was fortunate to be trimmed for climb prior to loss of hydraulics. JAL lost nearly the entire tail so even if they had not lost hydraulics they are very unlikely to have been able to maintain stable flight without skidding into an unrecoverable spin. United had to deal with asymmetrical control deflections that caused their pitch phugoid to also include unwanted roll and yaw components making control much more difficult. United was also trimmed for cruise flight in pitch axis making the speeds for their landing attempt insanely high. I remember hearing that multiple attempts were made to replicate United 232 landing in simulators and NOBODY could do as well as the actual crew did. DHL was trimmed for climb which is a high lift and relatively low speed flight regime. They also had to contend with asymmetry in roll and yaw axis like United but did have a more manageable trim in pitch giving them an advantage over the united crew. In all three incidents the airmanship was remarkable. Watching video of the Sioux City accident leaves you amazed that anyone could survive it yet more than half did.
Nothing like a disabled aircraft to cause a real adrenaline rush and sharp focus of the mind. When that Hawaiian Air flight lost a big chunk of the upper fuselage (due to corrosion), the pilot just greased in in onto the runway, a perfect performance. The co-pilot mentally remarked: "How did she do that?" And you get that when you are near disaster. Al Haynes never did fly commercially again, all those deaths demoralized him, but he did go on to give a lecture tour. A truly great pilot. I know I could not have pulled it off, my skill set is way below that level.
@@jvaneck8991 Aloha 243 is legendary. Air Canada 143, while not structurally compromised, also lost a lot of controlability to fuel exhaustion. Amazing how pilots achieve these feats in spite of the odds stacked against them.
So sad the FAA didn't mandate the computer program that would prevent this. Bitterly, I guess "not enough people have died yet for us to mandate it." _Probably the line of thinking._
Flying a plane without the ability to control other than timing your engines power and yet still managing to land albeit rough is just incredible ! Amazing pilot and crew right there !
Not only that, but also compensating for the unpredictable changes in aerodynamics from the damaged wing. That's the problem with the PCA system mentioned at the end of the video. Sure, it can land the plane on the engines alone when it's in perfect shape. But if you've lost all hydraulics, then most likely, your aircraft has been badly damaged in some way. How can the system possibly know the extent and location of the damage and how to compensate for it? Pilots can 'get a feel' for the change in aerodynamics, but a computer system cannot. I think it'd be better to focus on more redundant control systems and backups, along with better training for pilots on how to handle these scenarios... Along with installing military countermeasure systems for aircraft that fly into conflict zones.
@@weblure SImple. You only have engine control available. It applies the control necessary. Simlar thinking to yours implies that when you modify a car equipped with OBDII when modified will produce more horse power without reprogramming the computer. Not so. You can open the exhaust, open the intake, put different spark plugs in it, install a bigger turbo, etc. all you want but it will not produce more hp without reprogramming.
I served a year in Iraq (2004-2005) and helicopters were a constant part of the airspace around BIAP (Baghdad International Airport) and surrounding land. Along with the Apaches and Kiowas there were J-Lens Blimps with powerful cameras to scan for threats, and mounted patrols everywhere. Somebody must have REALLY dropped the ball, not only to let them set up and try and down a plane, but get off a SECOND shot minutes later. Very Glad the DHL crew survived. SSG. U.S. Army (Medically Retired) Infantry / Sniper / SOF Intel (SOT-A), multiple tours
Rather then dropping the ball it is more likely the terrorists watched the patrols for quite a while and figured out what distance they needed to be outside of the area that was observed as the fact is there is only so much area that you can feasibly keep under constant surveillance.
I was there in 04 and 05 as well. The BIAP used to have the return fire battery and all planes had to circle the air port inside this bubble to stay protected. Something must have changed.
The Japanese pilots had succeeded in a crash landing that many passangers had survived. The real failure was the incompetence of the Japanese government autorities who refused assistance from the American Army who had helicopters nearby and took days to reach the site on foot. The 4 survivors testified that they heard moaning and cries from many other passengers which eventually died out as time passed.
Not only that but they decided no one was alive so at night everyone hiking up there just stopped and made camp where they were so lots of people died to Japanese authorities neglect of survivors more could of survived but they never thought of that no one knows exactly why the American helicopter ready to drop a squad into the crash site was told to come back to base it's honestly dumb cause the helicopter crew specifically said they heard survivors even the survivors said they heard a helicopter and at night when another helicopter couldn't "see the crash site or anyone" the survivors also heard that one and were calling out for help if anything I would say it's the Japanese authorities and government fault for everything that happened to that plane and for everyone that died they effectively don't have any say In anything for that especially since the first helicopter clearly heard calls for help at that point the survivors basically gave up cause they helicopter didn't help no matter the situations always assume there is a survivor or survivors and because the wing hit a mountain first it took alot of speed away cause it made it spin it's the reason why so many survived
Plus those ones had probably way better terrain - its "easier" to land in the desert than in mountains. I wonder if they beated that Japanese record in time keeping the airplane in this condition airborn - they did extraordinary job back there. I was hoping they will mention the time in this case but if I didnt overheared it they sadly did not.
Plane bits were decent enough, but apache and getting out of the unexploded ordinance field were sloppy, something one would find in zero budget indie film. Also lots of "reality" tv bullshit drama put into script, witch is just sad.. this is why people are moving away from "official" big producers and into smaller video makers like ones in youtube. Now large corporations are coming here and getting preferential treatment from youtube, since they are unable to compete even here, even with all their budget and resources at hand, like getting this video recorded by apache pilot.
I don't remember hearing about this after it happened so I wasn't sure of outcome, the fact that the flight crew was giving their story helped a little bit but still an absolutely mesmerizing video
for some reason the footage of this event is hard to find these days. There is a lot of footage that was taken, and back when it first happened it was easily found.
"Controlling a plane just using the engines has never been attempted before" later in the documentary "here's a clip of another plane that was flown just using the engines 14 years earlier"
Because now planes are heavier and more reliant on hydraulics and advanced but before it wasn’t and more reliant on engines and 14 yrs ago probably don’t even have hydraulics
Same thing happened in 1989 DC10 Sioux City Iowa, lost all 3 hydraulic systems but made it to the runway and tumbled. Incredible back then that they even made the runway. They used differential engine thrust. That DC10 had identical engines to that A300, GE CF6
The successful landing of this stricken plane is the product of the crew's knowledge of the plane, and local weather conditions and terrain -- and sheer determination. I doubt "luck" was much of a factor. My favorite line was the radio message:"Okay, no more talk, 'bye!" BRAVO!
Was at BIAP and witnessed the landing. Pretty amazing landing they hit very very hard and half expected it to be a ball of flame coming out of the dust cloud they created running of edge of runway.
The fact the plane was still in tact after impact is incredibly impressive. I hope to god that i never encounter this situation as a pilot, hydraulic failure is a scary thought
The fact that the journalists were looked down upon for not trying to do anything is crazy. If they wouldve tried to stop it or leave then they wouldve been killed. The pilots did an outstanding job. Bravo gentlemen
A most impressive recapitulation of a most extreme test of a pilot's skills, so realistic and well-acted as if the film crew were aboard the original flight.
Scary to fly through the air and something just randomly hits you from below. Wow unexploded bombs and shells. Thank god the plane didn’t hit anything as it kept gliding through the field.
I fail to see how the reporters could have affected the outcome in any way by trying to leave, other than possibly being killed. They in no way had control over the actions of the people who shot the missiles at the plane, and who would have shot the missiles even if the reporters were there or not.
@marthale7 Agreed. Always easier to armchair quarterback from the safety of our homes. One often has no idea how one will react in a given situation until faced with it. And one has to make a choice, regardless of whether it can be considered right or wrong, or is the best choice for the moment in hindsight.
Noone said for her to stop anything.. but perhaps to not participate and get their rocks off for them. However, that isn't what got me with the lady. She clearly said that it wasn't until after she had watched them fire a missile at and hit a civilian aircraft, wasn't until after she watched them fire a second missle at said aircraft... wasn't until after she had gotten in her vehicle and was safely going down the road and looks up to see the aircraft on fire and flailing about in the air... it wasn't until then that she considered the innocent lives inside the aircraft. How is that humanly possible? To have no concern for the human life you watching a missile fly towards? It's rather alarming.
@@Mandy-nt2cs people criticised her after this incident for not doing something about what was takeing place in the moment it was takeing place. There was nothing she could have done except document the vile people.
@@brendawiener How about putting the cameras away. She wanted the great shot and they wanted the exposure. Journalists are always claiming they didn't know bu lt they are chasing that politzer prize.
I was there on the ground at BIAP and watched it come in. The good news was most of the enemy team was killed about a week later. Still had a SAM with them but Apaches blew them to bits. Really impressive gun camera footage. I think only one or two made it out in a car into a populated area and surrendered.
@@dragon888193ftw We found more ways to defeat them than you will ever know. A lot of terrorists died trying to plant them. Never learned to not use the same place twice!
@@dragon888193ftw don't worry Imade sure the makers and his buddies of the IED that hit me had closed casket funeral. Half the time they were such scum they would blow themselves up and save me the issue. In the early days of Iraq we killed them by the bus load especially the chechins that came in. For everyone one of our wounded 30 to 40 would get smoked
I flew in and out of Baghdad 4 times after the DHL incident. We were delivering the new Iraqi currency. It was not nice. I initially refused to do it, but eventually said yes. The helicopters get airborne when you are downwind to protect the approach, and on takeoff, they protect the initial climb out. It was an awful feeling climbing out of there. Got to 300kts as soon as possible and was always happy the higher we got. No danger money, which we got, makes flying there any better....
Can’t imagine what those helicopter pilots felt or were thinking as they watched this happen without being able to do anything to help. That must have been scary.
I sincerely doubt that they were scared. Angry? Sure. Helpless? Definitely. But what kind of soldiers and army pilots would they be if they got scared by a relatively weak terrorist attack on an airplane that could still fly? Pretty bad, if you ask me.
Kept me on the edge of my seat. Spectacular flying and wizardry on the controls. PCA should be mandated for current builds immediately, and reworked into all aircraft currently in the air.
WOW GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 3 PILOTS WHO LANDED THIS AIRCRAFT, WITH THE 3 OF THEM ALL PUTTING THERE. HEADS TOGETHER THEY. MANAGED TO DO. THE RIGHT THINGS TO LAND IT WELL DONE GUYS! YOU DID. IT!
This is one of the craziest Air Disasters of all time if u ask me. Thank God for the skills of the pilots involved, if not for that they wouldn't be here to tell about it.
I remember this incident very well as I was in Kuwait waiting to fly into Baghdad the next day to work as a contractor supporting the US military in Iraq. I just watched this incident on the news from my hotel room just before we were to be at a meeting to find out our flight time into Baghdad the very next day. At the meeting when we found out we were flying in broad daylight I thought they were kidding. But they were not, we flew into Baghdad the very next day in broad daylight on a C-130. Needless to say, we were all very nervous during the flight, especially when we started our descent into Baghdad Airport. Luckily we arrived safely. After that I would have several more flights in and out of Baghdad and I was always very nervous.
@@foxiedogitchypaws7141 Thank you and you are welcome. I finally got out of Iraq late 2019 after I spent some time in Afghanistan and now work with the military in S. Korea. Also, a place I served in uniform as well. Its a lot nicer here!
@@foxiedogitchypaws7141 So, what do you mean exactly with service? What inch of security was gained in the homeland by that campaign? I guess you mean service to the high treason of the federal reserve and globalist banksters, right? Did you ever study any history or economy?
Absolutely amazing flying skill and adaptability of that pilot. Fantastic job by all crew, just amazing landing purely using throttles to actually land with absolutely no other means of control and actually put it down on a runway. Sure, it ran off to the side but hell, they hod bugger all control over the thing. Great job captain.
For all my friends who were stationed there many of them never came home and the ones that came home ain't right in the head because a PTSD and just think of all the stuff that all our men and women in the military has done for our country and for the innocent people of that country , the war is truly not over but not on a high skill as it once was thank you to all the men and women who served in our military you're owed more than a thank you
Delivering the mail has always been a dangerous job. Spirit of St Louis was the first single engines single person transatlantic flight. Mail carriers were already doing that. I consider mail carrying akin to military service.
I find it absolutely hilarious the journalists were criticized, like what do you expect those two to do, knock out all the rebels jackie-chan style? Classic act of them having a holier than thou mindset.
It wasn't accurate to assert that flying a large commercial jet using asymmetric thrust to overcome total hydraulic systems failure had never happened before. Check out UA Flt 232, Sioux City in 1989. 119 fatalities, but 184 people survived due to the skill of the flight crew and a United Airlines check pilot who was a passenger before getting into the cockpit to help the rest of the crew. That aircraft lost all flight controls after the center engine fan disks exploded, severing all the hydraulic lines. It wasn't hit by a missile, but the flying problems and flight behavior of the aircraft were almost identical. Obviously practically miraculous flying jobs were done by both aircrews. The DHL flight just wasn't the first to be faced with this seemingly insurmountable challenge.
I was just going to comment about that. I saw a story on that crash on another flight channel a couple of years ago. I agree, it's still heroic flying. I this case, I was just thinking since they had been making that trip twice a day, every day, for at least a couple of years that means they have thousands of hours in that aircraft. That familiarity was probably another factor in this example.
@@jonathanmayor3942 still misleading at the 1et part of the video to a point. SC ran into the same problem I am sure as it go closer to the ground. It was pretty warm out that day.
Not wishing to detract from the skill displayed by Captain Sullenberger when he landed on the Hudson, but surely this is at least equal in regard to airmanship? At least Captain Sullenberger still had a controllable and, except for a lack of working engines, fully functional aeroplane. To land an A300 with no working hydraulics must border on the impossible. Amazing flying!
I remember years ago reading about a experimental procedure for using huge parachutes on disabled passenger jets , and it worked . The plane floated down hitting the ground with minimal damage. I think it was back in the early 1980s , I recall it being talked about and eventually a decesion was made to not apply the application as tested . I never understood why, if it actually worked . I'll now need to see if I can't find the article, but I absolutely remember this being tested and talked about , likely after one of the crashes that took place sometime during that era of aviation. I don't think it was a simulation, but a actual live test. Has anyone else ever heard about such a possibility of trying this kind of procedure ?
That was n amazing piece of video work. These guys are heroes! No on ever thinks about people that are innocent that gets caught in the crossfire…like children, babies, grandmothers and airline pilots just doing their jobs. It is amazing the collective experience that these men had and they had to dig deep to use that experience in a very unorthodox manner. Bravo to the pilots and bravo the makers of this film.
To be honest, when I see any reports from conflict areas, that's the first thing that springs to my mind - the innocents who are being impacted, both by injury/death and by the terrible endless trauma of living under constant threat? It's probable my perspective is skewed by decades of work as a volunteer human rights advocate, though... I'm aware that for many people, these conflicts can seem rather alien and somewhat abstract, happening to faceless strangers and without impact on their own daily lives. One of the ongoing questions/challenges for me is how can we build people's empathy for the noncombatants who suffer? Here's hoping stories like this do help in that respect, as well as honoring the extreme courage of the pilots involved...
Am with DHL for past 27 years … the team work and execution of perfection during crisis is our DNA across 220 countries.. feeling proud and great to be an DHLite🎉
Fantastic job. They remembered the two basic rules. The first rule is the basic rule of flying: Always Fly the Plane. The second is a basic rule of life: Never Give Up!
When everything you know fails to work the only thing you have left is ingenuity and intuition these pilots figure that out fairly quickly and that is the difference between life and death.
Um. yes this had indeed happened once before. United Flight 232, a DC-10 lost all 3 hydraulic systems on July 19, 1989, when the rear engine blew apart. Though many people died, many walked away from it thanks to the skill of the flight crew. EDIT: I wrote the above just after the narrator made the comment that no other airliner had suffered the loss of all hydraulics, which of course was incorrect. He should have said the first to do so and successfully land the plane without a crash.
The JAL 123 (a 747) also lost all FOUR hydraulic systems as the vertical stabilizer broke off the a/c, ultimately crashing the a/c with only 4 survivors, in 1985. There is also at least one case (Pan Am Flight 845) where 3 out of the 4 in hydraulic systems the 747 were drained empty, but the a/c recovered.
@@Itapirkanmaa2 along with the Pan Am case, there was a Eastern Airlines L-1011 that blew its number 2 engine and it also severed 3 out of the 4 hydraulic lines that the L-1011 had, it safely made it back to the ground.
That reporter was trying to get a story, and when that missile attack happen, I think that she although was trying to get a story, she was also prioritizing her and her crews life because it was possible that if she said no or tried to left, the group could have tried to end her and her groups life
Bullshit… She was in it neck deep and should be locked up for it. If she cared about anyone other than herself she would of disclosed the terrorist’s location to the Americans but her needs to get a “story” and the $$$ it generated for her meant more to her selfish ass than lives. She should be in jail. All Media is 💩
Breathtaking flying! The flight crew survived against terrifying odds. They are all alive because of their experience, their courage working together. Amazing and a blessing for all pilots in a tough situation.
Even better, America and the West need to stop using other countries including half the Middle East as a chess board to grab resources such as oil and otherwise serve its own interests. Then these countries wouldn’t be in half the mess they are currently in.
I remember this. Was headed south from Mosul on the way to Kuwait to wash equipment for redeployment home. Stayed at BIAP for crew rest the day this happened. Needless to say when we took off the next day there was a serious pucker factor till we got out of the area.
I was stationed at Baghdad International Airport with an Army Reserve unit in 2004. Up until September, we had the run of the airport. I got up close to that DHL A300 parked nearby other Iraqi Airways aircraft. Seeing the damage first hand, it made me appreciate how remarkable it was that they were able to successfully land that plane.
My dear friend of 40 years was right with you. M.Jones
What unit..
I was stationed at BIAP with my MI Army National Guard Company. I was returning to BIAP from leave about that time. The day I left on leave was the day the Chinook was shot down. That worried my parents until Mom realized I was based at BIAP and wouldn't have been on the Chinook. Great duty providing comm to many units including the FBI. In January 04, we jumped to Mosul. We were back in March. We left for Kuwait and home via Ft. Riley in April.
@@johnfisher5363 he was with the cooking unit,
@@klsc8510 a chinook was shot down? I know the whole walnut shavings in the gearbox problem. Oh you mean when they took out the whole chinook of army and navy special forces. What a waste that was. Punk ass kid had a lucky shot. Not to mention not enough resources as they should have had apaches with them.
My understanding and knowledge of aviation is precisely zero but you dont have to be a pilot to know what incredible flying these guys did that day. The pilots deserve all the accolades.
It's a bit like trying to parallel park in three dimensions. Using the gas pedal instead of the steering wheel.
@@arianebolt1575 "Parallel Parking, in a difficult Driver's Test" (With Apologies, to, "The Fifth Dimension." You know what they say/said: "This is the Dawning of the Aga of Aquarius.")
They had to fly in the fourth dimension, fact of steering and physics is changed. Facts of thrust aren't changed with too much aspect.
im gonna hve to try that in mfs2020
Na bruh they can do their own races. I’m saving my accolades
There’s good flying, there’s great flying, and then there’s beyond great flying. Well done sirs.
Great flying as well as a lot of luck
Sirs: Who are you and what makes you qualified to compliment us?
Wow o wow. Love these great pilots. All. Amazing skill instantly applied….. love, me
Well there’s flying... everything else is just crashing.
@@cityplanner3063
That wasn't luck, that was God telling you that house keeping hasn't cleaned your room yet. 👀
Narrator: will they get back to Bagdad and survive?
Me: Given you have been showing me clips of you interviewing the pilots for the last 30 minutes, I think so...
Sams are usually fired at fighter aircraft and the sa7 is a deadly weapon not meant to be fired at a unarmed delivery plane, a horrendous cowardly act to do this
That's the definition of terrorism. Cowardly attacks against unprotected civilian targets. Ugly, cowardly, despicable but highly effective to ruin enemy's morale.
It is called war. The weapon is meant to be fired at whatever target the operator chooses, and that is called reality.
Terrorists operate under a whole different set of values
@@NowStopandThink They operate under the same rules as the "money" lending central banking cartel does.
@@justanotherguy469 Settle down snowflake.
I'm with DHL, where teamwork is an every day thing and I must say this is some OUTSTANDING TEAM WORK! They kept their cool and relied on their experiences and skills. It's an honor to be working with you heroes! 💯👍👍👍
DHL keeps losing my packages you guys suck
Yep teamwork is key, i did my traineeship at DHL here in germany but sadly the quality here is dropping year after year cuz DHL employees now days so many imigrants and unlearned ppl with lower salerys and "most" of them working like they don't care about the stuff.
@@samholdsworth420 so why u still order with DHL when u r so unsatisfied ?
@@samholdsworth420 What a wonderful lie . Atleast you got 1 package safely .
@@Daseko. because one in three drug packages make it through
Incredible cockpit work, incredibly professional guys managing to keep cool and use their skills and experience all the way, never giving up.
Not denigrating their great achievement in any way - but what other choice did they have? It was either be professional pilots and try to save their lives, or flip out and die. Were I in their situation, I'd do the former - not the latter.
@@dragineeztoo61 In that very stressed situation they had the nerves to improvise in the best possible way. Their acting was invented, on the fly, never practised in the simulator. All stressed pilots have not managed to do that.
Of the 3 similar incidents with JAL, United and DHL the DHL crew was fortunate to be trimmed for climb prior to loss of hydraulics. JAL lost nearly the entire tail so even if they had not lost hydraulics they are very unlikely to have been able to maintain stable flight without skidding into an unrecoverable spin. United had to deal with asymmetrical control deflections that caused their pitch phugoid to also include unwanted roll and yaw components making control much more difficult. United was also trimmed for cruise flight in pitch axis making the speeds for their landing attempt insanely high. I remember hearing that multiple attempts were made to replicate United 232 landing in simulators and NOBODY could do as well as the actual crew did. DHL was trimmed for climb which is a high lift and relatively low speed flight regime. They also had to contend with asymmetry in roll and yaw axis like United but did have a more manageable trim in pitch giving them an advantage over the united crew. In all three incidents the airmanship was remarkable. Watching video of the Sioux City accident leaves you amazed that anyone could survive it yet more than half did.
That's interesting.
Nothing like a disabled aircraft to cause a real adrenaline rush and sharp focus of the mind. When that Hawaiian Air flight lost a big chunk of the upper fuselage (due to corrosion), the pilot just greased in in onto the runway, a perfect performance. The co-pilot mentally remarked: "How did she do that?" And you get that when you are near disaster. Al Haynes never did fly commercially again, all those deaths demoralized him, but he did go on to give a lecture tour. A truly great pilot. I know I could not have pulled it off, my skill set is way below that level.
JAL123 and United 232
@@jvaneck8991 Aloha 243 is legendary. Air Canada 143, while not structurally compromised, also lost a lot of controlability to fuel exhaustion. Amazing how pilots achieve these feats in spite of the odds stacked against them.
So sad the FAA didn't mandate the computer program that would prevent this. Bitterly, I guess "not enough people have died yet for us to mandate it." _Probably the line of thinking._
Flying a plane without the ability to control other than timing your engines power and yet still managing to land albeit rough is just incredible ! Amazing pilot and crew right there !
Not only that, but also compensating for the unpredictable changes in aerodynamics from the damaged wing.
That's the problem with the PCA system mentioned at the end of the video. Sure, it can land the plane on the engines alone when it's in perfect shape. But if you've lost all hydraulics, then most likely, your aircraft has been badly damaged in some way. How can the system possibly know the extent and location of the damage and how to compensate for it? Pilots can 'get a feel' for the change in aerodynamics, but a computer system cannot. I think it'd be better to focus on more redundant control systems and backups, along with better training for pilots on how to handle these scenarios... Along with installing military countermeasure systems for aircraft that fly into conflict zones.
There's no mention of it but I expect there are still pucker marks in their seats.
@@weblure SImple. You only have engine control available. It applies the control necessary. Simlar thinking to yours implies that when you modify a car equipped with OBDII when modified will produce more horse power without reprogramming the computer. Not so. You can open the exhaust, open the intake, put different spark plugs in it, install a bigger turbo, etc. all you want but it will not produce more hp without reprogramming.
I'm sure it has been done many times before in small prop planes
I served a year in Iraq (2004-2005) and helicopters were a constant part of the airspace around BIAP (Baghdad International Airport) and surrounding land. Along with the Apaches and Kiowas there were J-Lens Blimps with powerful cameras to scan for threats, and mounted patrols everywhere. Somebody must have REALLY dropped the ball, not only to let them set up and try and down a plane, but get off a SECOND shot minutes later. Very Glad the DHL crew survived.
SSG. U.S. Army (Medically Retired) Infantry / Sniper / SOF Intel (SOT-A), multiple tours
Rather then dropping the ball it is more likely the terrorists watched the patrols for quite a while and figured out what distance they needed to be outside of the area that was observed as the fact is there is only so much area that you can feasibly keep under constant surveillance.
this was 2003 so maybe all that extra stuff was a response to this incident.
I was there in 04 and 05 as well. The BIAP used to have the return fire battery and all planes had to circle the air port inside this bubble to stay protected. Something must have changed.
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The Japanese pilots had succeeded in a crash landing that many passangers had survived. The real failure was the incompetence of the Japanese government autorities who refused assistance from the American Army who had helicopters nearby and took days to reach the site on foot. The 4 survivors testified that they heard moaning and cries from many other passengers which eventually died out as time passed.
Pride is the world's worst killer.
Those JAL pilots were fucking magnificent, it just wish they could have had the help they needed from their government.
Not only that but they decided no one was alive so at night everyone hiking up there just stopped and made camp where they were so lots of people died to Japanese authorities neglect of survivors more could of survived but they never thought of that no one knows exactly why the American helicopter ready to drop a squad into the crash site was told to come back to base it's honestly dumb cause the helicopter crew specifically said they heard survivors even the survivors said they heard a helicopter and at night when another helicopter couldn't "see the crash site or anyone" the survivors also heard that one and were calling out for help if anything I would say it's the Japanese authorities and government fault for everything that happened to that plane and for everyone that died they effectively don't have any say In anything for that especially since the first helicopter clearly heard calls for help at that point the survivors basically gave up cause they helicopter didn't help no matter the situations always assume there is a survivor or survivors and because the wing hit a mountain first it took alot of speed away cause it made it spin it's the reason why so many survived
Plus those ones had probably way better terrain - its "easier" to land in the desert than in mountains. I wonder if they beated that Japanese record in time keeping the airplane in this condition airborn - they did extraordinary job back there. I was hoping they will mention the time in this case but if I didnt overheared it they sadly did not.
i want these guys flying every flight i take for the rest of my life... seriously. amazing skill under pressure.
An extraordinary story, brilliantly re-enacted through this video, and fortunately with a successful outcome due to the skill and courage of the crew.
Plane bits were decent enough, but apache and getting out of the unexploded ordinance field were sloppy, something one would find in zero budget indie film. Also lots of "reality" tv bullshit drama put into script, witch is just sad.. this is why people are moving away from "official" big producers and into smaller video makers like ones in youtube. Now large corporations are coming here and getting preferential treatment from youtube, since they are unable to compete even here, even with all their budget and resources at hand, like getting this video recorded by apache pilot.
I don't remember hearing about this after it happened so I wasn't sure of outcome, the fact that the flight crew was giving their story helped a little bit but still an absolutely mesmerizing video
for some reason the footage of this event is hard to find these days. There is a lot of footage that was taken, and back when it first happened it was easily found.
What an incredible crew with everyone taking the inputs from their colleagues and being respectable.
"Controlling a plane just using the engines has never been attempted before" later in the documentary "here's a clip of another plane that was flown just using the engines 14 years earlier"
True...but the key difference is they landed the plane safely and survived.
He meant "before" this incident or during traing of pilots or none of these pilots/Boeing attempted it b4.
Lmao
Unfortunately the prior jet had a big tendency to roll when they added power.
Because now planes are heavier and more reliant on hydraulics and advanced but before it wasn’t and more reliant on engines and 14 yrs ago probably don’t even have hydraulics
Same thing happened in 1989 DC10 Sioux City Iowa, lost all 3 hydraulic systems but made it to the runway and tumbled. Incredible back then that they even made the runway. They used differential engine thrust. That DC10 had identical engines to that A300, GE CF6
Yeah that's what I was thinking, maybe they could use differential thrust to change the roll of the aircraft, because of the tourqe effect
Dc 8 9 10 all garbage
this was mentioned in the video
I want this crew whenever I fly !!! Amazing aviationists, God Bless these great hero's. ❤
(Aviators*) but still they did good
@@laggy1004 And "heroes".
They did *well* 😁
The successful landing of this stricken plane is the product of the crew's knowledge of the plane, and local weather conditions and terrain -- and sheer determination. I doubt "luck" was much of a factor. My favorite line was the radio message:"Okay, no more talk, 'bye!"
BRAVO!
Its 10% luck ~20%~skill ( no actually 100% ) ... And 100% the remember this story
Was at BIAP and witnessed the landing. Pretty amazing landing they hit very very hard and half expected it to be a ball of flame coming out of the dust cloud they created running of edge of runway.
I was posted at BIAP at the time too at the departure end of the runway.
The fact the plane was still in tact after impact is incredibly impressive. I hope to god that i never encounter this situation as a pilot, hydraulic failure is a scary thought
I just can't imagine the level of concentration the captain had while trying to do what nobody has ever done before, absolute brilliance.
Survival mode at its best
The fact that the journalists were looked down upon for not trying to do anything is crazy. If they wouldve tried to stop it or leave then they wouldve been killed. The pilots did an outstanding job. Bravo gentlemen
It's amazing that the Airbus held up-Bravo to the crew!
A most impressive recapitulation of a most extreme test of a pilot's skills, so realistic and well-acted as if the film crew were aboard the original flight.
I always breathe a sign of relief when I see interview scenes with crew or passengers in the beginning of these sorts of shows.
Outstanding job by 3 highly skilled men. Thank God nobody was hurt or killed.
Scary to fly through the air and something just randomly hits you from below. Wow unexploded bombs and shells. Thank god the plane didn’t hit anything as it kept gliding through the field.
Should we land on 33 right?...yes, that's where all those unexploded bombs are stored!
Some amazing airmanship there, saved the day.
I fail to see how the reporters could have affected the outcome in any way by trying to leave, other than possibly being killed. They in no way had control over the actions of the people who shot the missiles at the plane, and who would have shot the missiles even if the reporters were there or not.
@marthale7
Agreed. Always easier to armchair quarterback from the safety of our homes. One often has no idea how one will react in a given situation until faced with it. And one has to make a choice, regardless of whether it can be considered right or wrong, or is the best choice for the moment in hindsight.
Expecting a woman who has less value to them than a dog to have been able to stop what was going on is purely B.S.
Noone said for her to stop anything.. but perhaps to not participate and get their rocks off for them. However, that isn't what got me with the lady. She clearly said that it wasn't until after she had watched them fire a missile at and hit a civilian aircraft, wasn't until after she watched them fire a second missle at said aircraft... wasn't until after she had gotten in her vehicle and was safely going down the road and looks up to see the aircraft on fire and flailing about in the air... it wasn't until then that she considered the innocent lives inside the aircraft. How is that humanly possible? To have no concern for the human life you watching a missile fly towards? It's rather alarming.
@@Mandy-nt2cs people criticised her after this incident for not doing something about what was takeing place in the moment it was takeing place. There was nothing she could have done except document the vile people.
@@brendawiener How about putting the cameras away. She wanted the great shot and they wanted the exposure. Journalists are always claiming they didn't know bu lt they are chasing that politzer prize.
@@brucetec6597 You should watch night crawler.
@@brucetec6597 🤔Anotherwords, your saying the world should be kept in the dark as to the truth of what takes place in the world. Thats a great idea😏
This proves you never give up ,,,,,,,keep cool and calm
WOWZERS!
The fact that they were even able to maintain control of the aircraft speaks highly of the airmanship skill s these pilots displayed!
I was there on the ground at BIAP and watched it come in. The good news was most of the enemy team was killed about a week later. Still had a SAM with them but Apaches blew them to bits. Really impressive gun camera footage. I think only one or two made it out in a car into a populated area and surrendered.
I was at BIAP to at the departure end of the runway.
Cool story bro, long live IEDs who are still making american soldiers crying for their mommy xD
@@dragon888193ftw We found more ways to defeat them than you will ever know. A lot of terrorists died trying to plant them. Never learned to not use the same place twice!
@@dragon888193ftw don't worry Imade sure the makers and his buddies of the IED that hit me had closed casket funeral. Half the time they were such scum they would blow themselves up and save me the issue. In the early days of Iraq we killed them by the bus load especially the chechins that came in. For everyone one of our wounded 30 to 40 would get smoked
@@johnfisher5363 Sure bro, whatever makes you sleep at night. Fight harder next time lmao
Excellently neat stoked job fellows!!
There’s good flying, there’s great flying, and then there’s beyond great flying. Well done sirs.
They were a perfect team and had an excellent captain hope others can do as well.
A really well made video, about an incredible piece of flying. That literally kept me on the edge of my seat all the way. Accolades to all.
I flew in and out of Baghdad 4 times after the DHL incident. We were delivering the new Iraqi currency. It was not nice. I initially refused to do it, but eventually said yes. The helicopters get airborne when you are downwind to protect the approach, and on takeoff, they protect the initial climb out. It was an awful feeling climbing out of there. Got to 300kts as soon as possible and was always happy the higher we got. No danger money, which we got, makes flying there any better....
Can’t imagine what those helicopter pilots felt or were thinking as they watched this happen without being able to do anything to help. That must have been scary.
Helpless and pissed, as were all of us watching it happen. Initially from the ground it appeared they'd lost an engine, thankfully tnot.
I sincerely doubt that they were scared. Angry? Sure. Helpless? Definitely. But what kind of soldiers and army pilots would they be if they got scared by a relatively weak terrorist attack on an airplane that could still fly? Pretty bad, if you ask me.
The way the three actors said “evacuate? evacuate. evacuation.” was funny in a way i cant describe.
Kept me on the edge of my seat. Spectacular flying and wizardry on the controls. PCA should be mandated for current builds immediately, and reworked into all aircraft currently in the air.
WOW GREAT RESPECT FOR THE 3 PILOTS WHO LANDED THIS AIRCRAFT, WITH THE 3 OF THEM ALL PUTTING THERE. HEADS TOGETHER THEY. MANAGED TO DO. THE RIGHT THINGS TO LAND IT WELL DONE GUYS! YOU DID. IT!
These men deserve far more than "equal" pay.
Amazing Pilot's flying for a Budget Carrier. This was some class A teamwork. These gentleman should be teaching and training our future Aviators
This is one of the craziest Air Disasters of all time if u ask me. Thank God for the skills of the pilots involved, if not for that they wouldn't be here to tell about it.
I remember this incident very well as I was in Kuwait waiting to fly into Baghdad the next day to work as a contractor supporting the US military in Iraq. I just watched this incident on the news from my hotel room just before we were to be at a meeting to find out our flight time into Baghdad the very next day. At the meeting when we found out we were flying in broad daylight I thought they were kidding. But they were not, we flew into Baghdad the very next day in broad daylight on a C-130. Needless to say, we were all very nervous during the flight, especially when we started our descent into Baghdad Airport. Luckily we arrived safely. After that I would have several more flights in and out of Baghdad and I was always very nervous.
Glad to know your safe. Thank You for all you and all your military service members have done. Thank You.
@@foxiedogitchypaws7141 Thank you and you are welcome. I finally got out of Iraq late 2019 after I spent some time in Afghanistan and now work with the military in S. Korea. Also, a place I served in uniform as well. Its a lot nicer here!
@@mikeallen3518 should've fought harder...
@@foxiedogitchypaws7141 So, what do you mean exactly with service?
What inch of security was gained in the homeland by that campaign?
I guess you mean service to the high treason of the federal reserve and globalist banksters, right?
Did you ever study any history or economy?
@@mikeallen3518 Yeah, high percentage of Christianity in Korea.
Absolutely amazing flying skill and adaptability of that pilot. Fantastic job by all crew, just amazing landing purely using throttles to actually land with absolutely no other means of control and actually put it down on a runway. Sure, it ran off to the side but hell, they hod bugger all control over the thing. Great job captain.
This should’ve become part of their ad campaign! “We’ll take a missle and still get it delivered.”! 👍🙂
*"Had they known it, the technology had already been invented to save any pilot in this dire situation."*
I was thinking, "PARACHUTES?" 👀👀👀
These is the moment life turns into air
For all my friends who were stationed there many of them never came home and the ones that came home ain't right in the head because a PTSD and just think of all the stuff that all our men and women in the military has done for our country and for the innocent people of that country , the war is truly not over but not on a high skill as it once was thank you to all the men and women who served in our military you're owed more than a thank you
I believe these gentlemen were probably 3 of the happiest men to get home and get the fk out of somewhere in history.
Incredible flying
Total CONGRATULATIONS
And Kudos to you all
Not only are the pilots in high stress, they also have to endure that damn beeping
I don't often chose to watch 50 minute disasters as too many areas can be boring. NOT HERE. Riveting! Educational too. Thank you!
I congratulate the pilots for this remarkable feat.
"You wouldn't think it was a dangerous job delivering the mail..."
What a depressing yet classic opener to a documentary
Delivering the mail has always been a dangerous job.
Spirit of St Louis was the first single engines single person transatlantic flight. Mail carriers were already doing that.
I consider mail carrying akin to military service.
"Lucky Lindy" was indeed, an experienced mail pilot who wrote about his experiences as a mailman, flying a surplus Curtis 'Jenny'.
I find it absolutely hilarious the journalists were criticized, like what do you expect those two to do, knock out all the rebels jackie-chan style? Classic act of them having a holier than thou mindset.
Those three are some seriously good/lucky pilots! God Bless Them!
God Bless the pilots 🙏
I watched the whole thing, and honestly this should not be more than a 20 minutes video. I literally was dozing off.
Amazing feat of airmanship!!
The next time I fly I will hide in a box and go via DHL!!
It wasn't accurate to assert that flying a large commercial jet using asymmetric thrust to overcome total hydraulic systems failure had never happened before. Check out UA Flt 232, Sioux City in 1989. 119 fatalities, but 184 people survived due to the skill of the flight crew and a United Airlines check pilot who was a passenger before getting into the cockpit to help the rest of the crew. That aircraft lost all flight controls after the center engine fan disks exploded, severing all the hydraulic lines. It wasn't hit by a missile, but the flying problems and flight behavior of the aircraft were almost identical. Obviously practically miraculous flying jobs were done by both aircrews. The DHL flight just wasn't the first to be faced with this seemingly insurmountable challenge.
I remember this day,
I was just going to comment about that. I saw a story on that crash on another flight channel a couple of years ago. I agree, it's still heroic flying. I this case, I was just thinking since they had been making that trip twice a day, every day, for at least a couple of years that means they have thousands of hours in that aircraft. That familiarity was probably another factor in this example.
33:47 ....Next time look the full episode before commenting ...
@@jonathanmayor3942 still misleading at the 1et part of the video to a point. SC ran into the same problem I am sure as it go closer to the ground. It was pretty warm out that day.
Actually an American Airlines DC 10 did it years before the UAL Flight AA Flight 96 on June 12 1972
Another good argument for onboard video of all parts of the plane that cannot be seen by the pilots. It’s amazing it is still not required.
at least the wings and tail
Amazing aviators. Aviate , Navigate, communicate
Not wishing to detract from the skill displayed by Captain Sullenberger when he landed on the Hudson, but surely this is at least equal in regard to airmanship? At least Captain Sullenberger still had a controllable and, except for a lack of working engines, fully functional aeroplane. To land an A300 with no working hydraulics must border on the impossible. Amazing flying!
Oh yes better than the USAir stunt.
Sully also had many rescue crews come to their aid right away.
These pilots are amazing, but did anyone else notice the music was perfectly on beat with the alarms at 36:10? 👌🎶👌🎶😂
I remember years ago reading about a experimental procedure for using huge parachutes on disabled passenger jets , and it worked . The plane floated down hitting the ground with minimal damage. I think it was back in the early 1980s , I recall it being talked about and eventually a decesion was made to not apply the application as tested . I never understood why, if it actually worked . I'll now need to see if I can't find the article, but I absolutely remember this being tested and talked about , likely after one of the crashes that took place sometime during that era of aviation. I don't think it was a simulation, but a actual live test. Has anyone else ever heard about such a possibility of trying this kind of procedure ?
Awesome job by the pilots!!!
These pilots could teach the skills they learned. Amazing.
I can’t blame the journalists, they literally had no other choice or they would have died
There is something so… 2000’s about a handheld camcorder. Just the fact that within a decade they became outdated
That was n amazing piece of video work. These guys are heroes! No on ever thinks about people that are innocent that gets caught in the crossfire…like children, babies, grandmothers and airline pilots just doing their jobs. It is amazing the collective experience that these men had and they had to dig deep to use that experience in a very unorthodox manner. Bravo to the pilots and bravo the makers of this film.
To be honest, when I see any reports from conflict areas, that's the first thing that springs to my mind - the innocents who are being impacted, both by injury/death and by the terrible endless trauma of living under constant threat?
It's probable my perspective is skewed by decades of work as a volunteer human rights advocate, though... I'm aware that for many people, these conflicts can seem rather alien and somewhat abstract, happening to faceless strangers and without impact on their own daily lives. One of the ongoing questions/challenges for me is how can we build people's empathy for the noncombatants who suffer? Here's hoping stories like this do help in that respect, as well as honoring the extreme courage of the pilots involved...
Fear gripped my heart until I realised I was listening to the men with whom I was mourning for.
They're alive!!!
I would pay money to have seen the looks on those terrorists faces when they realized that plane landed safely.
I'm so impressed by the video's production values.
I've seen high school film classes with better production value than this episode
All pilots are heroes no matter the status of the flight.
Why?
Am with DHL for past 27 years … the team work and execution of perfection during crisis is our DNA across 220 countries.. feeling proud and great to be an DHLite🎉
5. Air Transat Flight 236
4. This
3. Sully on the Hudson
2. Dardano on TACA 110
1. Aleutian Flight 8
Was Aleutian flight 8 the “hats and coats” crew?
@@ChickenLiver911 Yes. Absolute legends
@@adamp9348 I thought the airline was REEVES not Aleutian.
Fantastic job. They remembered the two basic rules. The first rule is the basic rule of flying: Always Fly the Plane.
The second is a basic rule of life: Never Give Up!
I was flying this plane...great crew...
wait you were one of the 3 pilots??
Exceptional camaraderie under extreme circumstances. BRAVO 👏
These pilots are incredible!
These pilots deserve highest awards ☹️ this is incredible
DHL delivered the soldiers' mail that day I'd say they're pretty reliable :D Takes serious skill to land an aircraft like that. Nice work pilots :)
People asking the journalists to stop the terrorist or to speak up to them are so stupid.
Great flying by the captain
"No more talking, bye!" - Captain with Balls of Steele.
Mario the flight engineer was indeed a chad.
When everything you know fails to work the only thing you have left is ingenuity and intuition these pilots figure that out fairly quickly and that is the difference between life and death.
Um. yes this had indeed happened once before. United Flight 232, a DC-10 lost all 3 hydraulic systems on July 19, 1989, when the rear engine blew apart. Though many people died, many walked away from it thanks to the skill of the flight crew.
EDIT: I wrote the above just after the narrator made the comment that no other airliner had suffered the loss of all hydraulics, which of course was incorrect. He should have said the first to do so and successfully land the plane without a crash.
The JAL 123 (a 747) also lost all FOUR hydraulic systems as the vertical stabilizer broke off the a/c, ultimately crashing the a/c with only 4 survivors, in 1985.
There is also at least one case (Pan Am Flight 845) where 3 out of the 4 in hydraulic systems the 747 were drained empty, but the a/c recovered.
@@Itapirkanmaa2 along with the Pan Am case, there was a Eastern Airlines L-1011 that blew its number 2 engine and it also severed 3 out of the 4 hydraulic lines that the L-1011 had, it safely made it back to the ground.
Unbelievable , just beyond words , watching that plane land , What they did was no short of amazing . They deserve every accolade received and more !
That reporter was trying to get a story, and when that missile attack happen, I think that she although was trying to get a story, she was also prioritizing her and her crews life because it was possible that if she said no or tried to left, the group could have tried to end her and her groups life
Bullshit… She was in it neck deep and should be locked up for it. If she cared about anyone other than herself she would of disclosed the terrorist’s location to the Americans but her needs to get a “story” and the $$$ it generated for her meant more to her selfish ass than lives. She should be in jail. All Media is 💩
Just imagine had this been a passenger aircraft the life of what 200 odd people would be at risk.
i dont know how they lived, but Like i cant believe that there were bombs in an airport, Like, WHY HAVE THEY NOT CLEANED IT UP
what makes me angry is the PCA software developed for these situations isnt installed on planes because it "costs too much".
In the end it's an economist ruling the world.
This episode and the story of UPS 6....oddly my endlessly watchable favorites....
Outstanding work !
Breathtaking flying! The flight crew survived against terrifying odds. They are all alive because of their experience, their courage working together. Amazing and a blessing for all pilots in a tough situation.
Yet another reason to stay away from these evil hell-hole places where barbaric mass murderers, rapists, and child molesters frequent.
Even better, America and the West need to stop using other countries including half the Middle East as a chess board to grab resources such as oil and otherwise serve its own interests. Then these countries wouldn’t be in half the mess they are currently in.
How to leave the innocent people who’s only fault is to be born there which they had no choice
Just incredible flying! Born from the Sioux City lessons learned, and JAL123. Outstanding cockpit resource management. Fighter pilots need not apply.
thank you saved my package safe!!!!........ absolutely perfect........
I remember this. Was headed south from Mosul on the way to Kuwait to wash equipment for redeployment home. Stayed at BIAP for crew rest the day this happened. Needless to say when we took off the next day there was a serious pucker factor till we got out of the area.