Donizetti/Thalberg - Fantasie sur l'opera "Lucrezia Borgia" Op. 50 (audio + sheet music)

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @niccolomaldera
    @niccolomaldera 2 года назад +12

    The themes used are:
    @ 0:00 Intro
    @ 1:15 Della duchessa ai prieghi
    @ 3:38 Di pescatore ignobile
    @ 5:31 Intro
    @ 6:16 Maffi Orsini signora son'io
    @ 9:39 Guai se ti sfugge un moto

  • @icst4786
    @icst4786 2 года назад +9

    Interesting that both Liszt and Thalberg chose similar textures at 10:11, although Liszt’s buildup to the climax is much more satisfying.

  • @treesny
    @treesny 5 месяцев назад

    The source of Donizetti's libretto for his opera, Victor Hugo's Lucrèce Borgia (1833), is a play, not a novel. While the score may not rank at the top of the list of the composer's best works, a great soprano can make something memorable of the title part, and there's also a rewarding "trouser role" for a lively mezzo-soprano. American poet Walt Whitman, during his early days as a newspaper reviewer, wrote a vivid and entertaining description of a performance of the opera in New York City.

  • @thenotsookayguy
    @thenotsookayguy Год назад +5

    10:53, sounds like 4 hands.

  • @eloipimor8925
    @eloipimor8925 2 года назад +9

    I prefer the Liszt composition, more dramatic for me, but Thalberg’s one is also very good !

    • @TheModicaLiszt
      @TheModicaLiszt 2 года назад +5

      Liszt’s is objectively better.

    • @cschlums2235
      @cschlums2235 2 года назад +2

      liszts is head and shoulders better

    • @dwacheopus
      @dwacheopus 11 месяцев назад

      Liszt is better

  • @prammar1951
    @prammar1951 2 года назад +6

    4:35 am I the only one hearing Happy birthday to you? 😅😅

  • @fulvionicolosi
    @fulvionicolosi 2 года назад +5

    4:34

    • @TheModicaLiszt
      @TheModicaLiszt 2 года назад

      The pianist lol

    • @Medtszkowski
      @Medtszkowski Год назад

      @@TheModicaLiszt what about him? 🧐

    • @Felix_Li_En
      @Felix_Li_En Год назад +2

      I personally love this short part very much! 🥰

  • @Chorizo727
    @Chorizo727 Год назад +6

    1000x better than Liszt’s over-pompous transcription

  • @mobilephil244
    @mobilephil244 2 года назад +3

    Can't help feeling that Liszt and Thalberg both tried their best to invigorate Donizetti's rather lack-lustre work. Neither completely succeeded although I would say that the Thalberg work is simply more engaging that Liszt''s.

    • @RicardoOliveiraRGB
      @RicardoOliveiraRGB 2 года назад +9

      "Thalberg work is simply more engaging...." maaan, I know that that's your taste and opinion, but daaaamn, not even in a dream this one is better than Liszt's one

    • @notmusictheory74
      @notmusictheory74 2 года назад +2

      @@RicardoOliveiraRGB maybe it’s more engaging to him because otherwise he couldn’t play it

    • @cschlums2235
      @cschlums2235 2 года назад

      liszts has some of the most earth shattering, transcendent climaxes in solo piano literature

    • @JamesBower-yj6ew
      @JamesBower-yj6ew Год назад +3

      ​​​@@RicardoOliveiraRGBDude, "engaging" and "better" are not the same thing. Thalberg's fantasie is much shorter than liszt, and is alot more dense of technical passages, which to some is more engaging.
      And either way, don't just batter his opinion like that - in some ways this can be better than Liszt's, just not narrowed to musicality...