The problem is it's very subjective, a chuck mounted light would do better in this test but would perform worse when using a large hole saw bit. The large brands will always go with a battery mount light as they need to use that same handle design across multiple tools.
More tests, more data, more better. Love the practical testing here. If you ever need help with anything let us know, happy to chat. One smidge of advice, future proof. Buy the absolute most monster tool and battery from what you can tell and a test like the weights make sure its still struggles. Then buy the lowest range tool you plan to use. Make sure it does enough to give you some data. Dial in the min/max for future advancements. Even if your first few episodes dont even include those tools. Reshooting a dozen tools when a change is made SUCKS.
Yeah the future proof issue is something we've been discussing at length. We actually adjusted the drill climb to allow for some fairly high scores from the drills with serious torque ratings, but that Milwaukee really pushed it. To further complicate things, we're planning to give all of our tested tools away to channel supporters. So if we make a major change, we have to buy tools all over again. (Don't ask who's genius idea that was) We're planning to add another 10-25 lbs to our Drill Climb and retest the DeWALT and Milwaukee. I think the FLEX is going to push it pretty hard too. Testing that on Monday. REALLY appreciate your help Torque. You and your team are a huge inspiration, and having you ring side is a pretty big deal. Thank you.
@ToolShow goal of our channel was always to save people from the BS and just trusting the box specs. We want to support any outfit doing the same, the bigger you get doing this the better people are served. Giving away tools is... well admirable but crazy. You gotta have reference tools to make sure for example that m18 does the same 10 months from now when you see an irregularity in testing to isolate the variable. Your tests are made up, which I think is fantastic, but no way to calibrate to a measurement. So you need some tools on deck to verify consistency. If you're not getting consistency from the same tool weeks later, it's not a good test. Our set-ups included
I just tested 8 of them on the new dyno, that Flex with the 10AH SL is no joke in Turbo mode. I like that LED test setup! It will be interesting to see how this progresses with the ranking. Nice video!
@Tool Show. Thanks Rob and Sarah for this beginning series of tool testing with pro drills. Can you safely test the stall point of each drill in 1st gear. While the Milwaukee 2903 has autostop, many other pro drills still don't have that safety feature. And some people complained that the 2903 autostop kicks in too easily. Or at least test how long the drill takes to drill a very large spade bit or hole saw. Again, thank you.
Just started collecting tools for the farm again after using kobalt for years and Milwaukee was my first choice I have a family member that works at a plant and that's all they use he says they hold up to everyday abuse better than any brand they used before now the whole plant uses Milwaukee and after this video that was just more confirmation thank y'all.
This is the first video I watch from your channel, so I don't have much background on how you score your tests. However in this Dewalt vs Milwaukee showdown, the Dewalt is lighter, quieter, faster to drill, stays cooler and is cheaper, whereas the Milwaukee is shorter, has a higher rpm and more torque. By my maths the Dewalt won 5 categories and Milwaukee won 3, yet is somehow on top. I'm not sure how your scoring works but I would have expected at least a tie.
I love this new series but I do have one "complaint. I can see you put some thought into the drill test rig but I do question the safety of it. Trying to hold trigger at the height you are doing currently could be deadly if the bit breaks or the drill slips out test rig. I could not see the top of the rig so I have to mske some assumptions. First thing I would do is to cut hole thru the top so the drill less likely to slip out of the rig. Second item I would look at is a attachment to the top so the drill is held vertically and further help prevent the drill from slipping out of the test rig. The third item is to completely remove the human element by fixing a way to have the trigger squeezed. Todd from Project Farm might have some ideas as he regularly does this on tools he tests.
@@ToolShow That'd be a step up for sure - or maybe even skip straight to the DCD1007 depending on its release date. I like that you featured a US-assembled model, though; I wish dewalt would/could make the current flagship stuff here. Good stuff - thx!
Nice to see Sara. I always like to see women doing this. My daughter, when I asked her what she would like when that time comes, said my machine shop, not my audio/video gear!
I'd be curious to see how a Snap-On or Mac Tools drill would do on this test. Also, it might be nice to see a side-by-side comparison of numbers for each test.
We are planning graphics for that very reason, but wanted to add some more drills first. Eventually you’ll see each result on a chart compared to others.
Doing with the new items is great however would love to see a few older generations as well. Also would like to see you compare the ridgid line as well.
RIDGID is going in the "Jobsite" class along with RYOBI HP, Kobalt, and a few others. Will be sure to test it. Love the idea of testing old tools, but need to find examples with VERY limited miles on them to be fair. Not sure how to do that.
Obomodulan. 502 specifically, because it has a density of 29 lbs/ft3. A piece of pine would be FAR too variable to get any real numbers. It could range from 19 to as high as 35 in a single board. Obomodulan is precisely the same density from cubic centimeter to cubic centimeter. The only downside is cost. We buy it in a block (6x20x48) for $600. We're about to purchase a much higher density Obomodulan for testing concrete drilling, and it will cost nearly 4 times that. :) The price of precision testing!
@@pathfinderairborne920 Anyone succeeding at something you want to do, SHOULD be your inspiration. Todd's videos are successful for many different reasons. Anyone attempting to test tools should be analyzing them, and applying the things that viewers clearly want to see. (Fast pace, scientific, interesting and entertaining testing practices, etc.) Obviously the goal is to create something people want to watch. I don't have to steal his slogans to do that. "We're gonna test that!" is something uniquely Todd, and that's awesome. He would look silly squealing "Baby Chainsaws!". :) I also take issue with people plagerizing his thumbnails. I think that's why he started putting his face on them 7 months ago. Making a thumb look just like his, is just going to disappoint people clicking on it. It's part of his brand that tells viewers what to expect when they click on one of his videos. We have our own (often plagerized) thumbnails, which is why we developed unique identifiers. We always have a vertical banner on the right, and for this series, Sarah and I will always be in the background in our easily recognizable hi-vis Blaklader jackets. Bottom line, we need to make content people want to watch. And if someone figured out something before us, we'd be foolish not to learn from it. Now the long road of modifying our YT channel's persona to include tool testing. >.< That's going to be far more difficult. If I'm right, these videos will start off slow, but with consistency, they'll grow exponentially, eventually surpassing our Tool Show on Fridays. Wish us luck!
Not really this still is different.The duo and the personalities takes on a whole different identity. Just enjoy the free content bro or go watch boring cable ❤
Hey, if you guys keep using new bits for consistency and have no use or a place for them used hole saw bits, you can always mail them to me seeing as they are still like new. I will welcome free slightly used bits anytime.
@@ToolShowVery good! I need to figure out if there’s a way to set up a keyword alert on RUclips. I am happy with my drills and don’t need another one. But I don’t have a baby chainsaw, so I need to know as soon as the chainsaw video drops.
Still not understanding the change in the metrics nor is there any control for the rating of the electric motor across models and brands. The DCD999 should best the DCD991. But they aren't in the same class and have different specs so of course it should. If you're not going to use objective rating metrics the overall scores are useless.
The thing is, most Festool tools aren’t great at these sorts of tests. They have better precision, ergonomics, dust collection, adjustments, accessories, that sort of thing.
@@gf2e Festool is very good at what they do plus their engineering is next to none, I agree their dust collection is some of the best in the industry, I own several of their tools
which are the tools that are very very real that are designed and made in the USA ( De Walt, Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch, ....) cause in time I saw it made in China!
Many are designed here. Don't know of any that are made here. There are some accessories (blades and bits) make in the USA, and some of the tools (DeWALT) that are "Assembled in the USA with GLOBAL materials". But it's just not economical to make power tools in the US at the moment.
That’s dewalts oldest drill and it’s not even the hammer drill , they have 2-3 new drill power detect is the best one and also they have the flexvolt one !
I love the unique & innovative tests and dynamic scoring system! But the presentation style is too bland - give us your usual excitement!! Also the algebra heat test seems inaccurate if one drill has more rubber molding blocking the reading?
It's funny, we spent a lot of time trying to incorporate humor, but we're worried it will distract from credibility. We have a few funny ideas yet to try. Appreciate the feedback! As for the heat, the highest heat rating doesn't come from the plastic at all, but the vents. Those are black on both the Milwaukee and DeWALT. Fortunately our Hilti thermal imager identifies exactly where the heat is coming from, so we can move it around to find the hottest spot.
We can't wait to test it! Based on the leaked numbers, I'm thinking we may need to add more weight to our Drill Climb. The Milwaukee came within a few inches of the top.
The ramp test is really cool. Looking forward to the testing!
The LED light testing setup is a great idea. The lights are only useful if they aren't easily obstructed.
The problem is it's very subjective, a chuck mounted light would do better in this test but would perform worse when using a large hole saw bit. The large brands will always go with a battery mount light as they need to use that same handle design across multiple tools.
Can't get enough tool show. The test rigs and your research are impressive. Keep up the great work you two!
Yall are giving Todd a run for his money I’ve always love your guys videos Sarah always brings a great smile!
More tests, more data, more better. Love the practical testing here. If you ever need help with anything let us know, happy to chat.
One smidge of advice, future proof. Buy the absolute most monster tool and battery from what you can tell and a test like the weights make sure its still struggles. Then buy the lowest range tool you plan to use. Make sure it does enough to give you some data. Dial in the min/max for future advancements. Even if your first few episodes dont even include those tools. Reshooting a dozen tools when a change is made SUCKS.
Yeah the future proof issue is something we've been discussing at length. We actually adjusted the drill climb to allow for some fairly high scores from the drills with serious torque ratings, but that Milwaukee really pushed it.
To further complicate things, we're planning to give all of our tested tools away to channel supporters. So if we make a major change, we have to buy tools all over again. (Don't ask who's genius idea that was)
We're planning to add another 10-25 lbs to our Drill Climb and retest the DeWALT and Milwaukee. I think the FLEX is going to push it pretty hard too. Testing that on Monday.
REALLY appreciate your help Torque. You and your team are a huge inspiration, and having you ring side is a pretty big deal. Thank you.
@ToolShow goal of our channel was always to save people from the BS and just trusting the box specs. We want to support any outfit doing the same, the bigger you get doing this the better people are served. Giving away tools is... well admirable but crazy. You gotta have reference tools to make sure for example that m18 does the same 10 months from now when you see an irregularity in testing to isolate the variable. Your tests are made up, which I think is fantastic, but no way to calibrate to a measurement. So you need some tools on deck to verify consistency. If you're not getting consistency from the same tool weeks later, it's not a good test. Our set-ups included
Most important to have Sarah swat the box off the table E v e r y time! Still laughing! Great job you two 👏
Love this! I’m looking forward to the rest of the testing in this series.
I just tested 8 of them on the new dyno, that Flex with the 10AH SL is no joke in Turbo mode. I like that LED test setup!
It will be interesting to see how this progresses with the ranking.
Nice video!
Appreciate your feedback! Yeah I'm anxious to test the FLEX next. We shoot it Monday.
@@ToolShow No problem, nice will be interesting to see.
Very good and objective test, nice. Hoping to see the top line german metabo and or mafell drills (they are i ternally the same drill)
@Tool Show. Thanks Rob and Sarah for this beginning series of tool testing with pro drills.
Can you safely test the stall point of each drill in 1st gear. While the Milwaukee 2903 has autostop, many other pro drills still don't have that safety feature. And some people complained that the 2903 autostop kicks in too easily. Or at least test how long the drill takes to drill a very large spade bit or hole saw.
Again, thank you.
Just started collecting tools for the farm again after using kobalt for years and Milwaukee was my first choice I have a family member that works at a plant and that's all they use he says they hold up to everyday abuse better than any brand they used before now the whole plant uses Milwaukee and after this video that was just more confirmation thank y'all.
This is the first video I watch from your channel, so I don't have much background on how you score your tests. However in this Dewalt vs Milwaukee showdown, the Dewalt is lighter, quieter, faster to drill, stays cooler and is cheaper, whereas the Milwaukee is shorter, has a higher rpm and more torque. By my maths the Dewalt won 5 categories and Milwaukee won 3, yet is somehow on top. I'm not sure how your scoring works but I would have expected at least a tie.
I love this new series but I do have one "complaint. I can see you put some thought into the drill test rig but I do question the safety of it. Trying to hold trigger at the height you are doing currently could be deadly if the bit breaks or the drill slips out test rig.
I could not see the top of the rig so I have to mske some assumptions. First thing I would do is to cut hole thru the top so the drill less likely to slip out of the rig.
Second item I would look at is a attachment to the top so the drill is held vertically and further help prevent the drill from slipping out of the test rig.
The third item is to completely remove the human element by fixing a way to have the trigger squeezed. Todd from Project Farm might have some ideas as he regularly does this on tools he tests.
Loved the unconventional tests. Been looking forward to this.
Loved! You guys are showing the others have to do it the correct way!
I’d love to see how the Flex turbo with the 6.0 stacked does, my thoughts are it will go to number 1 and stay there
That's next!
The DeWalt battery is current, but the drill model seems like an oddly vintage selection. I like the testing format though.
We have a DCD999 on the way.
@@ToolShow That'd be a step up for sure - or maybe even skip straight to the DCD1007 depending on its release date. I like that you featured a US-assembled model, though; I wish dewalt would/could make the current flagship stuff here. Good stuff - thx!
That LED test is a brilliant idea! I have a Makita 12V drill/driver that is effectively useless because of where the LED is located.
Yeah it’s a sore spot for me. I freakin LOVE the current SKIL drills with the halo light. Those will ace that test.
I really want to see the new impacts, especially the new monster dewalt dcf860 it looks insane.
Like the speed and simplicity of the testing. Well don tool show.
great video you guys, that light test is on point.
Nice to see Sara. I always like to see women doing this. My daughter, when I asked her what she would like when that time comes, said my machine shop, not my audio/video gear!
Well done i looks forward to more of these videos! Keep em coming
New series 🤙🏾🤙🏾🧱👍🏽
I love this new testing stuff!!! Keep up the great work!!
that’s a very old dewalt drill. the dcd 998 and dcd 999 are the new and improved version of that drill.
BOTH GREAT JOB
I'd be curious to see how a Snap-On or Mac Tools drill would do on this test.
Also, it might be nice to see a side-by-side comparison of numbers for each test.
We are planning graphics for that very reason, but wanted to add some more drills first. Eventually you’ll see each result on a chart compared to others.
@@ToolShow sorry if I missed you mentioning graphics, that's my bad.
wow what a test. Love it guys
these are decent tests. Very Impressive
Would love to see you test the Milwaukee Oppendriver, which reportedly requires just ONE battery charge for its lifetime use.
Nice family and awesome test.
Thanks!
Doing with the new items is great however would love to see a few older generations as well. Also would like to see you compare the ridgid line as well.
RIDGID is going in the "Jobsite" class along with RYOBI HP, Kobalt, and a few others. Will be sure to test it. Love the idea of testing old tools, but need to find examples with VERY limited miles on them to be fair. Not sure how to do that.
Great stuff, keep it coming!
what is that material used for the boring test?
Obomodulan. 502 specifically, because it has a density of 29 lbs/ft3. A piece of pine would be FAR too variable to get any real numbers. It could range from 19 to as high as 35 in a single board. Obomodulan is precisely the same density from cubic centimeter to cubic centimeter. The only downside is cost. We buy it in a block (6x20x48) for $600. We're about to purchase a much higher density Obomodulan for testing concrete drilling, and it will cost nearly 4 times that. :) The price of precision testing!
I would like to see the top drill/drivers (non-hammer) from 18v Makita (Model# XFD16Z) and 18v Metabo-HPT (Model# DS18DCQ4).
I love this kind of content.
You know we gotta try the Makita XGT 40v
I second this, was hoping to see it go against the Flex since they both have really high rpm.
HEY GUYS WHY NOT THE 6 AMP XR BATTERY FOR DEWALT. IT'S DROPS LESS VOLTAGE THAN 5 AMP POWERSTACK UNDER LOAD TRY IT I HAVE BOTH
use black gaffer tape that will give you a better measurement because it has a low reflective surface.
Awesome content
This screams Project Farm
Appreciate that!
How, i didn't hear "Very Impressive" once lol. But in all seriousness this is quick and about as controlled as you can get.
They definitely learned from Todd, at Project Farm. I do not have a problem with that. Any time you can make a test better, we win as consumers.
@@pathfinderairborne920 Anyone succeeding at something you want to do, SHOULD be your inspiration. Todd's videos are successful for many different reasons. Anyone attempting to test tools should be analyzing them, and applying the things that viewers clearly want to see. (Fast pace, scientific, interesting and entertaining testing practices, etc.)
Obviously the goal is to create something people want to watch. I don't have to steal his slogans to do that. "We're gonna test that!" is something uniquely Todd, and that's awesome. He would look silly squealing "Baby Chainsaws!". :)
I also take issue with people plagerizing his thumbnails. I think that's why he started putting his face on them 7 months ago. Making a thumb look just like his, is just going to disappoint people clicking on it. It's part of his brand that tells viewers what to expect when they click on one of his videos.
We have our own (often plagerized) thumbnails, which is why we developed unique identifiers. We always have a vertical banner on the right, and for this series, Sarah and I will always be in the background in our easily recognizable hi-vis Blaklader jackets.
Bottom line, we need to make content people want to watch. And if someone figured out something before us, we'd be foolish not to learn from it.
Now the long road of modifying our YT channel's persona to include tool testing. >.< That's going to be far more difficult. If I'm right, these videos will start off slow, but with consistency, they'll grow exponentially, eventually surpassing our Tool Show on Fridays. Wish us luck!
Not really this still is different.The duo and the personalities takes on a whole different identity. Just enjoy the free content bro or go watch boring cable ❤
Bosch may not do well in terms of size but its definitely got power behind it
Yeah we're curious to see how it does!
As someone who is in Menards all the time i would like to see how the masterforce tools stack up. Never see that brand in tool testing videos.
For sure! Have to decide if they’re a DIY or Jobsite class.
Still my DeWalt is my favorite drill of all time
Metabo HPT DV36DC latest and greatest from metabohpt
I think a 4” hole saw and a hammer drill comparison is in order.
Milwaukee has best battery on the market so Milwaukee before i watch
Great tests. Flex next would be great
Flex next!
They are all around the same in power, i prefer the hikoki, it has the closest feeling to brushed in rpm range.
Flex is what's next....pls
Great show new sub. Kinda. I been watching you guys but somehow was unsubscibed🤔🤔
This is good content
Appreciate that Timothy!
People showing tools that never used them fr if being honest but no hate keep up the work
Are you trying to suggest that Sarah and I don't know how to use drills... but we built testing rigs?
@ToolShow show me on your jobsite that's what I'm saying
5 Ah vs A -6 Ah battery? 🔋 lotta different variants could’ve been done…
Didn’t test runtime. We chose the battery that provided the most power for the test.
Try the ridgid!
Let’s see the FLEX next.
Why would you use the 991?
It’s their top Drill/driver. The 999 is a hammer drill. There are separate tests for that.
@@ToolShow Allright fair enough 🤣
Hey, if you guys keep using new bits for consistency and have no use or a place for them used hole saw bits, you can always mail them to me seeing as they are still like new.
I will welcome free slightly used bits anytime.
Can you do the same for Baby CHAINSAWS!
For sure!
@@ToolShowVery good! I need to figure out if there’s a way to set up a keyword alert on RUclips. I am happy with my drills and don’t need another one. But I don’t have a baby chainsaw, so I need to know as soon as the chainsaw video drops.
Why are we testing the 991 and not the 998 or 999
Ridgid high torque drill with max output battery.
Bosch 💪
Still not understanding the change in the metrics nor is there any control for the rating of the electric motor across models and brands.
The DCD999 should best the DCD991. But they aren't in the same class and have different specs so of course it should. If you're not going to use objective rating metrics the overall scores are useless.
Test Festool drill since everyone thinks it’s the shizz
Love this idea. I'll pick one up.
The thing is, most Festool tools aren’t great at these sorts of tests. They have better precision, ergonomics, dust collection, adjustments, accessories, that sort of thing.
@@gf2e Festool is very good at what they do plus their engineering is next to none, I agree their dust collection is some of the best in the industry, I own several of their tools
Please test the dewalt DCD999
We were going to, but I forgot the 999 is a hammer drill. We have a separate chart and tests for those on the way.
Did you just do algebra to a bucket full of calculus?
which are the tools that are very very real that are designed and made in the USA ( De Walt, Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch, ....) cause in time I saw it made in China!
Many are designed here. Don't know of any that are made here. There are some accessories (blades and bits) make in the USA, and some of the tools (DeWALT) that are "Assembled in the USA with GLOBAL materials".
But it's just not economical to make power tools in the US at the moment.
That’s dewalts oldest drill and it’s not even the hammer drill , they have 2-3 new drill power detect is the best one and also they have the flexvolt one !
The Milwaukee is not the hammer drill either so it seems fair
@@SuperShermans you’re right but it reads best pro power drill and that’s not dewalts best or Milwaukees for that matter !
Hammer drills are a different category. They will have their day. We have a DCD999 on the way.
WOOOHOOOOOO EAT THAT DEWALT FANBOYS !!!!!!
FLEX NEXT
Wonder how my flex holds up lol
We will see! It’s next!
Ребята,коммент в развитие канала!
Спасибо за обзоры
мужских игрушек !
Привет из России!❤
"Purchased" 😂😂😂
We bought every drill. Even the drills we already got for free. They needed to come from a retail shelf.
I love the unique & innovative tests and dynamic scoring system! But the presentation style is too bland - give us your usual excitement!! Also the algebra heat test seems inaccurate if one drill has more rubber molding blocking the reading?
It's funny, we spent a lot of time trying to incorporate humor, but we're worried it will distract from credibility. We have a few funny ideas yet to try. Appreciate the feedback! As for the heat, the highest heat rating doesn't come from the plastic at all, but the vents. Those are black on both the Milwaukee and DeWALT. Fortunately our Hilti thermal imager identifies exactly where the heat is coming from, so we can move it around to find the hottest spot.
Can you do Hercules next please vs the kobalt please please please like if you see this
Tool Show... Ask a woman if she wants to attend one with you and you'll get a times up charge. Aah the good old days.
DCD 1007! The 🐐
Can't wait to see how dewalts new xr does, 1007 I think is the new model. Definitely like this new addition to the channel
We can't wait to test it! Based on the leaked numbers, I'm thinking we may need to add more weight to our Drill Climb. The Milwaukee came within a few inches of the top.
У нас в России
Есть канал Папа Карло
Тоже круто обозревают ,
Инструмент с юмором!😂
Это тот парень, о котором ты говоришь? www.youtube.com/@papakarlotools
@@ToolShow yes!))
@@ToolShow
Только последние 2 года,
обозревать особо нечего😂
Из за санкций!
Но,стараемся😂