First time I watch this kind of comparison and it’s fascinating! These tips are priceless. Thanks for taking the time to put this video together for us Rich 🤙🏻
@@IRCTireUSAMoto honestly Rich, your tips have instant effect. Just returned from a ride, kept telling myself "do whatever you can to keep at least one foot on the peg and keep momentum"... and man did that make the difference! thanks again man!
The Pro vs Joe series has taken your trainings to another level! It's almost like watching myself, seeing the mistakes I've made, and having you right there telling me how to do it properly next time.
THIS IS PRICELESS. When pros tackle obstacles and gnarly lines it always looks flawless and as a viewer, you loose the perspective of how hard those sections truly are. Having a more average rider tackle the same challenges puts things into clearer perspective. Thank you!
That was so good, thanks Jim for your perspective of the majority of us riders and James for showing us the difference that’s not so easy. Love your videos Rich all the best from Australia 👍keep it going
I love these break downs, I share these videos with my riding buddies. When we go out riding we try and practice what we watched. Thanks for mak8ng these.
Another video of yours that I will have to watch at least 3 more times to really grasp the many details and hopefully remember them when I'm in the woods.
The contrast was very helpful to see! I think more like this in the future would be beneficial. I know for me at least, everyone picks things up differently.
Man, that was so well done! I love the unscripted approach, equally educational to your other videos and almost like being in a clinic with you where you are providing feedback. Dude, I have said it a number of times - you are the best! Keep it coming and I definitely vote for working in more of this style video, though I love them all!
Been watching for a long time and this one seemed to translate to me a bit easier 🤙🏼 your ability to analyze and breakdown what’s going on is unparalleled.
Super helpful to see a comparison like this! Thanks Rich! And thanks Jim and James!! I’ve been to the TTC and Rich is right that terrain is knarly to say the least! Great Job Guys!!!
Great to see how many friends are in this video !! Starting with Josh, then James and his dad Jim…. And of course Rich !!! Great video…. Great way to show the difference between a Pro and a good rider …. And like Rich said…. Jim is definitely a good rider… not a slouch at all !!! He definitely makes me feel “Old” when we ride in Page !!!!! (But Jim definitely has forced me to get over some of my fears and has made me a better rider !!!)
Very instructive... to see how I think I ride to how I actually ride. Jim's riding is better than mine but I see similar things. The compression to his son whose skills are refined was enlightening.
Super good way to explain techniques. Had a buddy come from California to Illinois to ride. He pretty much locked up when it came to tight single track woods and big dirt hills. He was used to more wide open stuff. It was kinda like he was starting all over again.
Incredible video man, you all've done invaluable job showing and explaining everything, I wish you will do more of this kind of explanatory PRO VS Joe series. I've got an interesting technique to try from it, where pro weights and deweights his pegs to climb steep hill with roots and stones
This was an epic video for me, my former is actually abit better then I thought watching this as I sort of wing it and find what works I'm just a average rider. But this comparison showed me a few things I'm doing right and also a few tips on what I need to work on! 🤙
I just did my first hard enduro at the TKO on my Surron in the ECR class(posted my video of the Saturday race and finished 18th). After having been there I know exactly what they are fighting with, it doesnt have nearly the traction you would think looking at it, that first climb was the one that put from 1st to last in my starting group haha. I definitely fall more into same class as Jim but I have been watching and practicing after watching your videos but its a little tricky to translate the techniques to an electric bike as you obviously have to just control everything thru the wrist. Im gonna start riding my Beta again and try and practice all the lessons and maybe that can translate for better results next year.
Hello Rich, huge fan from Brazil here. We have a very good sportsbike rider in brazil which happens to be a cool youtuber who has a "Crash Analysis" series. People record their crashes mid-race or while racing on the street and he goes over why they crashed and gives them lots of tips. It's very enternaining to watch and very funny (because of his comments, not because of the crashes). I'm 100% sure this series of yours will be very very successfull too. The idea is great and interactions between you and your fan/student base is gonna sky rocket. GL!!
really great to watch such comparisons. You should do this more often, it helps much more than just an explanation. The older rider has my respect as he is a much better rider than viewers may think. On camera everything looks easy but we all know the sections were pretty tough. Thanks for this very special video and best regards from Austria/Europe.
That was a lot of fun to watch. I learned a lot. I think that if Jim had some rest, and another go at this, he would do better. Jim is a hellaofa rider. I would absolutely struggle up those hills, and would not attempt those tall rocks.
Well, I must have missed the memo while I was busy trying to convince my bike that I'm a professional interpretive dancer on two wheels. Meanwhile, this riding guru drops a video on how to actually ride. Talk about bad timing-I was out there on the trails, unintentionally reenacting scenes from a comedy sketch. If only my bike had a speaker blaring, "Watch the tutorial, mate!" Lesson learned: next time, I'll schedule my riding adventures around the release of life-changing riding wisdom. Until then, I'll be the guy trying to make off-road ballet a thing. 🕺🏍. for now, i'll just learn online, have to wait a year til i ride again.🙂. Thank you Rich.
Kick a$$ channel!!! You help us drive our passion forward while minimizing the potential for injuries. The sponsors need to take care of you!! WHY? - Your valuable lectures and tips are being WATCHED BY LOTS OF LOTS of us / "joes" who work hard to have an expensive hobby and perhaps enjoy our favorite pass time during the weekends. Yes! Many of us can buy the flashy gear full of logos, but many of us do not pay a trainer to show us how to do this right without sustaining injuries. Many people get injuries and stop spending cash in this sport. Stay wild, stay away from the hospital and keep watching ....
These videos are much more valuable to me. Just watching someone else do it correctly just doesn't translate to on the bike. Everyone has a plan till you actually there and those rocks look massive and the hills near vertical. So watching critique on an amateur is more relatable. Yes, we try get the basics, feet on the pegs, stand, etc... but watching from the side is just not the same as from on top. Confidence is everything for me, I'm more inclined to sit and take my feet off the pegs when I see something a bit gnarly and I don't know if I can do it. It wastes time and energy and it's all downhill from there as you get tired quickly. Fitness is another massive part in riding. Once you're gassed, you're not going to learn anything and probably going to get hurt. So, if you like me, riding every 2nd weekend, you gotta have something else you do for fitness. Keep it up guys.
Pretty neat, and as an east coast guy who went and rode out west for the first time this summer, it was like turning on easy mode, everything had traction, it was super fun.
I really enjoyed this concept...I reckon it would work really well if you were commenting on your own riding in comparison to somebody else doing the same!
Really enjoyed this style of video! What tires and systems did the run for TKO? I live in PA and ride in these same conditions. I run a JX8 Gekkota on the rear with tubliss
I heard somewhere that you’re really riding that back wheel on a dirt bike, and to think of the front wheel as just being there to keep you from pitching yourself onto the ground. Definitely not a perfect analogy, but it keeps my weight back and my knees behind my toes.
This is a great thing to watch and learn. I am new to dirt biking so my comments might be irrelevant. I am 6ft 4in with a 37 in inseam. Joe looks huge on the bike. looks like if he leaned back he would lift the ftont wheel. Please comment on body size, proportion, and size of the bike. The cock pit for Joe is much less stable unless he can get his feet back. What do you think???
How much taller is Jim then who he was compared to, I think you said his son? I've found from my own experience that my height makes standing correctly pretty hard. New to the channel and loving the pro tips!
So basically you can boil it down to two separate components: The Joe has less experience than the Pro obviously. So it's largely down to experience which cultivates knowledge. Now you can still have Joe's that have been riding or Racing for a significant amount of time and still are making beginner mistakes. That would be due to not being able to progress or practice and improve, for whatever reason. Experience begets knowledge, knowledge is the foundation and the subsequent structure to build on a successful outcome. Control begets confidence.
Rich I think you could make good content breaking down videos of this stuff. There’s breakdowns in other sports which is another valuable aspect in some people’s learning. All videos show how to preform a task when riding but this perspective is another POV nobody else is doing.
It’s less about the weight specifically and more about the movement or lack of movement you are capable of. There’s a time and a place for the seated position and the sections in this video aren’t one of them.
I wondered as well but when I think about it, the weight on the seat still has the shock between the seat and ground. Weight on the pegs puts the weight low, and directly on the bike. Just my guess tho.
First time I watch this kind of comparison and it’s fascinating! These tips are priceless. Thanks for taking the time to put this video together for us Rich 🤙🏻
Our first time doing it! Hopefully more to come!
"Joe" looks tired.
@@IRCTireUSAMoto honestly Rich, your tips have instant effect. Just returned from a ride, kept telling myself "do whatever you can to keep at least one foot on the peg and keep momentum"... and man did that make the difference! thanks again man!
@@IRCTireUSAMoto Please do! Being able to see real time what's happening and listening to your incredible teaching skills is incredibly priceless!!!
The Pro vs Joe series has taken your trainings to another level! It's almost like watching myself, seeing the mistakes I've made, and having you right there telling me how to do it properly next time.
THIS IS PRICELESS. When pros tackle obstacles and gnarly lines it always looks flawless and as a viewer, you loose the perspective of how hard those sections truly are. Having a more average rider tackle the same challenges puts things into clearer perspective. Thank you!
We all are Jim at times, great stuff
I love these videos! Its amazing how much more fun I have with just a few improvements and not lazy riding.
That was so good, thanks Jim for your perspective of the majority of us riders and James for showing us the difference that’s not so easy. Love your videos Rich all the best from Australia 👍keep it going
Great comparison, and thanks Jim for being a good sport. Really useful comparison with insightful commentary.
Glad you enjoyed it! Jim’s the man!
Awesome video, Rich! Jim and James are both great riders and we have Jim to thank for finally bringing a hard enduro race to the SW. 🤘
I love these break downs, I share these videos with my riding buddies. When we go out riding we try and practice what we watched. Thanks for mak8ng these.
I luv your analysis, I am only 3hrs into the sport and 46yo but your movies are soooo beneficial for me, thanks!
These episodes are great you can really see the difference which makes it much easier to see side by side how its done. Awesome
Every time I think I have a favorite video of yours, you make an even better one.
Priceless! Thank you for breaking it down so minutely. Riding & teaching passion, with so much patience.
Thank you Jim and James (and Rich)! This was a super-informative episode. Very grateful that you shared your struggles with us!!
Another video of yours that I will have to watch at least 3 more times to really grasp the many details and hopefully remember them when I'm in the woods.
I definitely enjoyed this video. Seeing the mistakes most of us make and and then how it should be done is very helpful!
This is great info! Nice concept with different riders. Nice
Hopefully more to come!!
great analysis! love the side by side comparison. Would love to see more.
Great video, you should definitely do more! It’s really fun to slow down and nerd out on a pro doing one obstacle.
Beast. Dad is like 50 something years old too. If you've never ridden East Coast in the summer the air itself feels like an obstacle!
The contrast was very helpful to see! I think more like this in the future would be beneficial. I know for me at least, everyone picks things up differently.
That was really interesting thanks Rich.
Awesome to see the 2 level's of rider back to back.
Loved it Rich, really beneficial seeing both level of riders and the line choices they take and why.
🙌🙌
Man, that was so well done! I love the unscripted approach, equally educational to your other videos and almost like being in a clinic with you where you are providing feedback. Dude, I have said it a number of times - you are the best! Keep it coming and I definitely vote for working in more of this style video, though I love them all!
Thanks so much for the support! More to come!!
Been watching for a long time and this one seemed to translate to me a bit easier 🤙🏼 your ability to analyze and breakdown what’s going on is unparalleled.
Thank you so much man!!
Yes this was an awesome video!! 100% do more of them!!
Super helpful to see a comparison like this! Thanks Rich! And thanks Jim and James!! I’ve been to the TTC and Rich is right that terrain is knarly to say the least! Great Job Guys!!!
I took some time to read through the comments. So many good comments. This community of riders is fantastic.
Couldn't agree more! Love the subscribers!!
Great to see how many friends are in this video !! Starting with Josh, then James and his dad Jim…. And of course Rich !!! Great video…. Great way to show the difference between a Pro and a good rider …. And like Rich said…. Jim is definitely a good rider… not a slouch at all !!! He definitely makes me feel “Old” when we ride in Page !!!!! (But Jim definitely has forced me to get over some of my fears and has made me a better rider !!!)
5 minutes in, amazing breakdown Rich!
Awesome video man. Would love to see more of these comparison videos
Wow .....this was awesome seeing back to back ....
Always great videos on this channel, but probably this was the best one so far!!! 😃
Wish I could buy IRC tires here in Portugal (Europe). 😕
Very instructive... to see how I think I ride to how I actually ride. Jim's riding is better than mine but I see similar things. The compression to his son whose skills are refined was enlightening.
Please do more of these. This was great.
Great video. More of these please!
Super good way to explain techniques.
Had a buddy come from California to Illinois to ride. He pretty much locked up when it came to tight single track woods and big dirt hills. He was used to more wide open stuff. It was kinda like he was starting all over again.
Thanks Jim and James--Rich. Great informational live show.
Incredible video man, you all've done invaluable job showing and explaining everything, I wish you will do more of this kind of explanatory PRO VS Joe series. I've got an interesting technique to try from it, where pro weights and deweights his pegs to climb steep hill with roots and stones
Yes, more videos like this are super helpful. Thank you.
Yes. do more of these
thanks Rich - brilliant video , pass on congrats to the boys and the old man hehe
Thanks, will do!
This was an epic video for me, my former is actually abit better then I thought watching this as I sort of wing it and find what works I'm just a average rider. But this comparison showed me a few things I'm doing right and also a few tips on what I need to work on! 🤙
Very cool video. I bet it took some time and effort to put this together
More please !
Definitely helps me realize where I need my body position on the bike.
I just did my first hard enduro at the TKO on my Surron in the ECR class(posted my video of the Saturday race and finished 18th). After having been there I know exactly what they are fighting with, it doesnt have nearly the traction you would think looking at it, that first climb was the one that put from 1st to last in my starting group haha. I definitely fall more into same class as Jim but I have been watching and practicing after watching your videos but its a little tricky to translate the techniques to an electric bike as you obviously have to just control everything thru the wrist. Im gonna start riding my Beta again and try and practice all the lessons and maybe that can translate for better results next year.
Hello Rich, huge fan from Brazil here. We have a very good sportsbike rider in brazil which happens to be a cool youtuber who has a "Crash Analysis" series. People record their crashes mid-race or while racing on the street and he goes over why they crashed and gives them lots of tips. It's very enternaining to watch and very funny (because of his comments, not because of the crashes). I'm 100% sure this series of yours will be very very successfull too. The idea is great and interactions between you and your fan/student base is gonna sky rocket. GL!!
really great to watch such comparisons. You should do this more often, it helps much more than just an explanation. The older rider has my respect as he is a much better rider than viewers may think. On camera everything looks easy but we all know the sections were pretty tough. Thanks for this very special video and best regards from Austria/Europe.
Great video. Thanks!
That was a lot of fun to watch. I learned a lot. I think that if Jim had some rest, and another go at this, he would do better. Jim is a hellaofa rider. I would absolutely struggle up those hills, and would not attempt those tall rocks.
Great narration. Good job Rich. Still got to wave the hands. All good!
This was a cool type of comparison video. Do more of these if possible, this helps a lot.
Well, I must have missed the memo while I was busy trying to convince my bike that I'm a professional interpretive dancer on two wheels. Meanwhile, this riding guru drops a video on how to actually ride. Talk about bad timing-I was out there on the trails, unintentionally reenacting scenes from a comedy sketch. If only my bike had a speaker blaring, "Watch the tutorial, mate!" Lesson learned: next time, I'll schedule my riding adventures around the release of life-changing riding wisdom. Until then, I'll be the guy trying to make off-road ballet a thing. 🕺🏍. for now, i'll just learn online, have to wait a year til i ride again.🙂. Thank you Rich.
Really interesting vid as usual! Greetings from France
🙌 thanks for the support!
Kick a$$ channel!!!
You help us drive our passion forward while minimizing the potential for injuries.
The sponsors need to take care of you!! WHY? - Your valuable lectures and tips are being WATCHED BY LOTS OF LOTS of us / "joes" who work hard to have an expensive hobby and perhaps enjoy our favorite pass time during the weekends.
Yes! Many of us can buy the flashy gear full of logos, but many of us do not pay a trainer to show us how to do this right without sustaining injuries.
Many people get injuries and stop spending cash in this sport.
Stay wild, stay away from the hospital and keep watching ....
I appreciate that man!
@@IRCTireUSAMoto
I truly want you to know that what you do is special.
No BS!
Great video, more like this please 🙏
These videos are much more valuable to me. Just watching someone else do it correctly just doesn't translate to on the bike. Everyone has a plan till you actually there and those rocks look massive and the hills near vertical. So watching critique on an amateur is more relatable. Yes, we try get the basics, feet on the pegs, stand, etc... but watching from the side is just not the same as from on top. Confidence is everything for me, I'm more inclined to sit and take my feet off the pegs when I see something a bit gnarly and I don't know if I can do it. It wastes time and energy and it's all downhill from there as you get tired quickly. Fitness is another massive part in riding. Once you're gassed, you're not going to learn anything and probably going to get hurt. So, if you like me, riding every 2nd weekend, you gotta have something else you do for fitness. Keep it up guys.
Jim and I would be great riding buddies! Great video Rich.
Pretty neat, and as an east coast guy who went and rode out west for the first time this summer, it was like turning on easy mode, everything had traction, it was super fun.
Great 'competition'. Thx from Germany!
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Greetings from Spain
I really enjoyed this concept...I reckon it would work really well if you were commenting on your own riding in comparison to somebody else doing the same!
yup.. another fantastic video pal
Really enjoyed this style of video! What tires and systems did the run for TKO? I live in PA and ride in these same conditions.
I run a JX8 Gekkota on the rear with tubliss
I was looking for you there Rich. I’m hoping you can do one of your basic classes there.
I heard somewhere that you’re really riding that back wheel on a dirt bike, and to think of the front wheel as just being there to keep you from pitching yourself onto the ground. Definitely not a perfect analogy, but it keeps my weight back and my knees behind my toes.
This Joe vs Pro thing is very, very interesting. You learn by watching real life examples.
Props to jim for getting after it
Very usefull!!!!!
Superb
This is a great thing to watch and learn. I am new to dirt biking so my comments might be irrelevant. I am 6ft 4in with a 37 in inseam. Joe looks huge on the bike. looks like if he leaned back he would lift the ftont wheel. Please comment on body size, proportion, and size of the bike. The cock pit for Joe is much less stable unless he can get his feet back. What do you think???
Is this technical riding easier on a 250 2 stroke vs a 350 4 stroke ?
How much taller is Jim then who he was compared to, I think you said his son? I've found from my own experience that my height makes standing correctly pretty hard. New to the channel and loving the pro tips!
How to improve confidence in standing above your machine?
Good video. I wish I could get up to the Dad’s level!!!
Good stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it
He should have included one of my rides , to gain more learning points ..😂
So basically you can boil it down to two separate components:
The Joe has less experience than the Pro obviously. So it's largely down to experience which cultivates knowledge.
Now you can still have Joe's that have been riding or Racing for a significant amount of time and still are making beginner mistakes. That would be due to not being able to progress or practice and improve, for whatever reason.
Experience begets knowledge, knowledge is the foundation and the subsequent structure to build on a successful outcome. Control begets confidence.
Rich I think you could make good content breaking down videos of this stuff. There’s breakdowns in other sports which is another valuable aspect in some people’s learning. All videos show how to preform a task when riding but this perspective is another POV nobody else is doing.
Loved it. Keep er goin. Good tv. Lol
Woah, how tall is Jim?! He looks huge!
i dig it
Will you explain why your weight on the seat is different than weight on your pegs...
It’s less about the weight specifically and more about the movement or lack of movement you are capable of. There’s a time and a place for the seated position and the sections in this video aren’t one of them.
I wondered as well but when I think about it, the weight on the seat still has the shock between the seat and ground. Weight on the pegs puts the weight low, and directly on the bike. Just my guess tho.
I relate to Jim. 🤣
Jim is older too , younger legs help too .
It seems that it if possible, it would be pretty useful to film yourself practicing and review what you’re doing.
I'm looking forward to riding out west. East coast rock faces have 0 grip in comparison.
I like Joe, he IS not Young and he is in enduro hobbie, he is a titán!!
Great video !!!!!!
2minutes for Joe, 20seconds for pro..
That rock section is brutal!
Looks flat out 'not rideable' to the average trail guy...😉 HARD Enduro🪄