Remember when the Z Fold 1 released and was very expensive, but we thought as more generations of folding phones come out the tech will become easier to produce and cheaper... A near 2k device not even including a charger is a disgrace.
Well, I ordered the global Honor V3 a couple of days ago. 1614,00 EUR using a coupon and Honor points. Included where a Honor Watch 4 (retail 129,00), a fastcharger wireless stand (retail 99,00), Honor wirless buds (retail 50,00) and a 66w supercharger (retail 29,00). So you get nice deals, just not with Google or Samsung.
@@HerrGrimmigerPetz and also probably wont work on a lot of american brands i wanted some of xiaomi phones but realized i really wont get the same coverage as i could with a samsung, sony or oneplus phone
If only there were a reason why the prices haven’t come down. Oh. There is. Low adoption rate. Folding phones only sell enough to justify a new model every year, but not in the quantity to bring costs down. Because the prices stay high, the average phone owner won’t justify the spend and because they won’t the prices don’t budge
@@NyteStalker89 It might just be one of those things that is demonstrably really fucking cool but doesn't need to be anything more than a niche product. Can't wait for Apple to put out a fold though for $3k and see if they can manage to make one sell in large numbers.
You had me until you bleated out the nonsense about the charger. If you don't have an *entire drawer filled with USB chargers* then buy one for 10 bucks and stop squawking.
I work in sports media for a local media outlet in my area. Prior to that I worked in tech support. A little over 6 months ago I got a Pixel Fold. I, in both cases, have absolutely loved it. When doing tech it is awesome for remoting into devices, working on a ticket on my phone while being on Outlook and so much more. While on the media side, it is amazing for post game interviews where you can split a notes page, that has your questions on it, and the camera section for recording the interview. Haven't invested in the Pixel Pro 9 Fold but it is very tempting.
I really enjoy that we are still able to have these kind of jokes! Sadly, the feminism sensor is probably ringing loud when the word "thing" is used for a woman...
There's no "justifying" flagship phone prices. It's a phone. By all means, if you have more than enough money to spend on gadgets, go for it, but don't try to pretend over-$600 phone prices are "justified". Heck, it's nigh-impossible to do so for phones of over $400. Don't normalize these prices.
iPhones have been at the same price for like 7 years, even after the crazy inflation they can have enough profits from them. so I believe flagship phones are more expensive than they need to be
@noseboop4354 like I said, if you have the money for gadgets, go for it. That doesn't make it neither a justified price for the product, nor a justified price for the features.
Prices are just another way to represent value, some people value certain features over another, while some do not. Say like a Framework laptop has modularity feature but a 3x cheaper doesn't.
A 400$ phone can do everything people need. Outside of gaming but if you have so over 1800$ to spend on a phone then you have no problem buying gaming laptop or handheld PC. There is no way you can justify the price. It's cool if somebody wants it and can afford it but there is nothing about the phone that is worth a price. So, I agree let's not normalize the prices.
7:00 - the progressing "not bending flat" is caused by accumulation of dirt inside the mechanism casing, especially on the edges. I managed to fix that by cleaning out the hinge with post it notes xD It was LITERALLY a handful of lint in there packed tight as rock.
I own the original Pixel Fold. I love it. It's way too expensive for what it is but man is it ever nice to read or watch things on or work in split screen or just the fact you can take selfies with the good camera. It's just something I don't want to miss again.
@@wethepeoplearethegovernmen8032 similar argument yes and also a similar answer. If you can afford it you have to decide if it's worth it for you. I would love to own a Ferrari but to get one I would need a massive loan which makes it not worth for me. A Fold I can afford so I bought it. Simple as that really
Im sure they can and willl... plus inflation i guess we are gonna be at 2k for sure if you want a device for enthusiasts. Tell me one reason, why in 10 years they should not be able to do what they do today? @@Unkownxxxxxxx
My big question with these foldables is always ″how long will that hinge last?″ I personally use phones for 4-5 years. I do t like to upgrade so i only do when my phone is about to actually die. Foldables sound like a nightmare for me idk...
My big question is "how long will the glass along the hinge last" since we've seen the micro cracks in Samsung fold every year. And seeing the teardown for all these foldable phones we know the inner screen repair is a nightmare. Add to it that Google and Samsung both have some of the worst tech support I've ever had the displeasure of using, big pass... I'd only get a foldable once the hinge cracks are permanently solved, or I can walk in and out with a new screen at little to no cost in 30 minutes.
Roughly a year and I can't complain. Not exactly as stiff as when I received it, but it is super stiff and stable still. If I had to put it into a percentage, I'd say... it lost like 10% ... ish? I do fold it very often, to be fair.
Google pixels 8 and 9 need a google charger to go over 20w. I have a 100w non-google charger and the phone will only take 15-18w when using a 240w capable cable. Google is using a different charging standard that isnt PD
I returned my pro fold for this exact reason. The charging was just too slow on a phone with 2 screens and battery isn't great either. for power users this is laughable in 2024!!
@@jakesinclair69420 Pixel 9 Pro Fold: Up to 21 watts (wired charging) with the Google 45W USB-C® Charger (sold separately) plugged into a wall outlet. Actual results may be slower. Taken directly from googles comparison page
People rant and rave about thinness and just accpet camera bumps. Why not make the phone as thick as the bump, and add durabilty, battery and stuff I can't think off?
Agreed, do you think the weight be an issue at that point? Id have to test one out to feel the weight in person. A 2 plus day battery would be a killer sell for power users
@@mellow862 They could use the increased space for lightweight stuff like a headphone jack, or a second USB port, or more/better speakers, or a larger camera sensor, or anything that makes the phone actually feel like a premium product.
@SaHaRaSquad yes they can actually add a headphone jack, but they chose not to because they want to sell their premium Bluetooth headphones while Sony is still keeping the jack it proves that there is always space for innovation
For a hot second, I thought the title was refering to the PS5 pro's pricing in Canada. For the digital only version, in Canada, it's $949.99, before tax. Can actually build a decent PC for that price... Even more so if you add a controller, the external disc drive and PSnetwork subscription pricing into it.
I think it sgould be pointed out that Google is kind of using their own charging standard on the Pixel 8 and Pixel 9 phones. So you have to buy a Google charger to get the max charging rates. I have 100w chargers and my pixel 8 pro only will request 20w max, usually hovers around 15-18w.
You are using the 3 button navigation which might be why you cant get out of camera inside open faced mode without unlocking first? Split keyboard the unfolded can be changed to single handed size if you prefer.
Go with the OnePlus Open. It's more powerful, and after using it for 270 days, it's still performing as day 1. Using the app Unfolded I got these specs for you: Hinge Angle: 179° (with case on, without should be 180°) Unfolds: 3446 Average per day: 12 It's really fast (Snapdragon 8 Gen 2), and reliable. OxygenOS is also one of the better Android flavours, I prefer it over Samsung One UI. No fluff, just useful extra's on top of AOSP.
As someone with a foldable, my biggest gripe is that ultra thin glass NEED a plastic screen protector. And that protector SUCKS. It didn't even last 3 days without micro scratches, and you still need to bloody change the protector every year or so because it bubbles eventually. And it also really boggles my mind how Samsung still haven't managed to effing fix their crease while basically every other Chinese phone maker already did it LAST GEN, WITH Samsung's own display.
Had a fold 5 for a year now, hinge still feels just as good as the first day. I too am curious to see how reliable these are, I'll find out first hand.
My Fold 3's hinge worked perfectly until I got caught in a dust storm. Now it only opens about 98% of the way unless I forceably hold it open. Still the best phone I've ever owned.
For now the Foldable king stays the Oneplus Open. Best software with hardware combined. The best hardware has the Honor Magic V3 but the software lacks behind.
Isn't honor a huawei brand? Y'know, the one that's banned in the US over chinese spying and stuff? LMG is a canadian company, but southern neighbour dictates a lot not only in terms of the local market, but also audience. ZTE is also banned in the US, and you don't get to see it on video either.
@@NomstersoN yeah, as someone that really liked huawei ui and shi, and was dailying a p30 pro for the last few years honor is a very comfortable ux to me, it is basically huawei ux with google being fully usable, while the whole spying controversy happened it looked a lot more like competition elimination to me, but yeah, the western user's trust might be gone, it's just that honor is very reasonably priced where I'm at, at like 1000$ for a pretty slick foldable, though I'm torn on whether I should actually be getting it, with the lack of reviews on them, and the whole spy-ware controversy
Yeah it's weird, makes the audio kind of shouty. Wanted to reduce the volume but still felt like I was being yelled at a bit (a lot more than in other LMG videos).
I bought this phone simply to have a small tablet with me at all times for work. Its so nice to be able to open it up and look at spread sheets without having to zoom in or carry around a second bigger device just for that. Price is high, but if I had to buy a new phone and tablet separate, it would be comparable.
Phone repair guru built his own iPhone 13 for around $300. What about we just start building our own phones? Definitely could make for a fun project if you are dedicated enough.
7:55 They should make a version of split keyboard where it includes buttons from the other side, so it’s more like two keyboards side by side so each thumb has access to all the keys
I'd love a comparison of some open ear earbuds. I feel like both the LTT and ShortCircuit channel haven't really kept up with that type of headphones. Loving the vids btw
my father runs his business from a flip 4 so maybe this would be worth it for him. having his booking app open while texting customers could improve workflow
I'm 90% confident he'll be slowly but surely disillusioned the longer he mucks through dealing with Apple's bs. I'm 5% confident he'll actually like it long term, and 5% confident he won't care either way because he really just need a phone that works consistently, and like other phones, it will do that.
I still like Samsung's approach You can actually watch videos full screen on the inner display and the outer screen is actually good when you get used to it
I have been using a folding phone for a few years and multitasking isn't even a big deal for me - I'll use teams and outlook side by side sometimes but the best parts for me is how much nicer it is to type and how much nicer reading is on it - most of what I use my phone for is quick research googling at work and I prefer desktop version of websites, rather than mobile which the large screen absolutely excels at. That's the focus and huge advantage for me and why I'd have trouble going back from a folder.
My biggest problem with this foldable and flip phones is the fact that when i change my cellphone, every 3-5 years, i selll my old phone, with this phones that is impossible, the degradation over time is too big to make this a worth investiment for me.
No phone is holding a tonne of value after 3-5 years. But I do agree a foldable would be even more difficult to get money back on. I never think about resell value honestly.
11:42 You just inspired an indie horror film/game, imagine this, but it makes it look like your entire head is facing the camera, now use it for documenting your kids' childhood, and mix that with the concept of a camera capturing a soul... Thats looking pretty entertaining, too bad i dont make stories. Its there if anyone wants it.
I'll just leave this here. If you guys are considering a foldable phone, do have a look at the Honor Magic V3. That thing absolutely crushes anything that the western market has to offer, and I'm pretty sure it also supports all of Google's services and whatever else you might need.
there is no pro version of the honor magic v3. but ur right it currently crushes very other foldable. unless u dont compare it to the huawei mate xt triple foldable but that doesnt offer any google service & ur stuck with their harmony OS & their (soc) hardware.
Why do people keep mentioning the honor V3? the only reason that thing is so thin is cuz the processor is half as good and the phone itself can't do as much, as smoothly as the pixel, you also get stock Android actual infrastructure in Western countries like Canada where I live, meaning proper customer care and replacements /repairs readily available Also good luck getting a case for that thing in any storefronts in Canada or the US. This is a classic debate that we seem to have every year. Yes, the Chinese , Taiwanese and Korean manufacturers will often have insanely faster charging, sometimes better hardware and specific points, but will always lack in terms of customer service and infrastructure as well a clean optimized ecosystem which I will always opt for over super duper ultra mega supreme charging speeds and unnecessarily thin designs
Honestly, folding phones depreciate massively and quickly which makes them amazing a year later on the used market so long as you make sure they're in good condition.
I’ve switched from years of iPhone Pro Max phones and love the switch! It’s a great hybrid between a phone and a tablet and being able to multitask is a game changer for me. Only thing I wish was better was the camera, but it’s not as bad as it seems on paper.
Now if Google finally focuses on some fun and bouncy and smooth animations already... And native icon pack support for the pixel launcher that would be great
@@mrkring1526 it's not I have both Iphone and a Pixel and the Iphone clears with animations. I love Android but the animations on Iphones always made me envious.
Well, I have been working in T-Mobile in NYC, for the past 10 years, and I have seen all of the foldable devices starting with all the models of Samsung Z fold and Z flip, and ending with Google Fold. One thing i should say, that i like to point out to people all the time is that whenever something is UNIVERSAL, it ends up doing everything sure, but it doesn't really excell at anything at all. Sure the foldable phones are cool, but at 1900+ US dollars you are NOT getting the best camera, built in stylus, IP68 water and dust resistance, a durable screen that can actually survive 6 years of use, and many more features. So whenever people ask me what should they get a Z fold or a S24 Ultra, i always recommend them to get S24 Ultra, and, if they need to, a tablet like a Galaxy Tab S9 FE. You get THE BEST camera phone on the market with all the latest things, you also get a media BEAST in S9 FE as a tablet, videos aren't going to be cropped and you can multitask all day long with 10000 MAH battery, and you still have 50$ left to spare to buy a case.
Every time I hear the word "thinnest" I imediately think "Oh Great, can't wait to see Jerry fold that in half the not so intended way LoL!" Jokes aside, thinn is sh*t, let's be honest people (including me) want something that Doesn't easily break. That DBrand screen protector though, Nice DBrand!
If you get a 1000 off promo from your carrier with trade in, it ends up being 25 a month for 36 months. If you can't afford 25 a month, you shouldnt be buying top tier phones.
Wish LinusTechTips did some research. The Honor Magic V3 absolutely blows google and samsung out of the water, it's not even remotely close. It's like showing a caveman walking around with a rock an iron pickaxe.
I bet the content is going to be perfect considering the 10% more cost in materials for like 3x the price. The best device is the one that most people use.........
13:30 good to see thats actually a bit, I see you've spoken with machinists before. I'd love to see a tungsten carbide drill next time though, might show us what it can really do.
I'm going to be honest, as someone who was waiting for this review but decided to go ahead an order a Fold, the title was scaring me. (Yeah, it's expensive, but I really like foldables and I couldn't justify anything else. Still read other reviews on it and similar phones though.)
The Surface duo isn't the same kind of 'foldable' that is being talked about here though, is it? That is a phone with two screens that folds, not a phone with a screen that literally folds in half. That is the kind of foldable that is being talked about here. So the Surface duo doesnt qualify.
As someone who has daily'd both a Z Fold AND the Pixel Fold for over a year each, I can say with confidence that the only reason you'd ever need a screen as big as it is IF you need it for work. The rest of the time you will inevitably end up using it folded. The nice thing about the Pixel Fold is that they thought about this when designing it and gave you an actually usable outside screen unlike the Z Folds of yester years. I spent a lot of time working with mine, editing spreadsheets and using applications where a larger than normal screen just makes the experience better. I currently work as a rideshare driver and the amount of screen real estate a folding device gives you is just fantastic. I used to hear about drivers running iPad Minis with LTE connections to accomplish the same thing and to not have to worry about bringing a second device along is a game changer.
@@smokemyjohnson6755 It's also great for simply viewing photos that you've taken with the phone, it's way better than viewing them on any regular candy-bar phone.
Still using an LG G8X, $700 and after 5 years its still going really well. Verizon puts out regular updates and with LG phone division folded it won't get "sunset" forcing a slow down. This looks impressive though if my phone dies, I could go for this as a replacement.
My Samsung Z Fold 4 inner screen has just recently started lifting up, I'm told it's a common issue. I think i'm blackpilled when it comes to foldables, might give in and go Apple next year.
@@General_M They are plenty of Androids that are not gimmicks and just work. Like the pixel 9, the non foldable version of the pixel fold. If he said he's blackpilled with Androids because they have been a bad experience that would make more sense. The comment implies that Androids = foldables. Which makes no sense.
7:26 "even media content I didn't always bother opening up the inner display" Legit laugh at this while watching the video with my vivo xfold 3 pro cover display. I can vouch for that 😂
"woooow this is such a good display" meanwhile me watching on a 4:3 dell lcd from 2002 that came with a dell optiplex: "mhm yeah that's got such good blacks"
Could we get a series on the main channel of people doing small daily driving challenges with phones to get a deeper look at their quirks with their OS/Hardware, especially those for more expensive/lesser known devices?
The phone was in 'navbar' mode not gesture. When you swiped up from the bottom in the camera app, a little back arrow came up which was to be pressed to go back :')
To whoever did the color grading in this video, thank you! My eyes can finally rest watch it side to side with another short circuit for the difference, very apparent on the LTT mat for example
I recently upgraded from a Fold 3 to a Fold 6, since T-Mobile was offering me $1,100 USD tradein on my 3 that I had paid off. I don't know what the 5 was like, but the 6 is a significantly better design than the 3 or 4 were. The thing just feels more solidly built, though some of that may be just because its new. It's a bit wider when closed, so you aren't occasionally handicapped with what you can do without unfolding it like the 3, but it's also significantly thinner overall and especially when closed, so it isn't any harder to hold. For me, the best benefit (among several) of the foldable is the big screen making a much better device for reading things (novels or comic books, for example. I will never go back to a non-foldable if I can avoid it. It's so much money, but I do get so much benefit out of it, so the math kinda balances out for me. It's the same when it comes to the other drawbacks of foldable devices.
Open, it fits a 6.5" 16:9 image. Closed, it fits a 5.3" 16:9 image. Noticeable, but not the primary use. Open full-screen use is the best reason to get a foldable.
@@Uncle_Fred No. For that, you'd basically need a nearly square phone to start with, and open it to perfect 16:9. The best you can get now are flip phones. The solution is coming, phones that trifold into a bar, and near 16:9 when open, like the Huawei Mate XT.
@@Uncle_Fred They remain expensive everywhere. China gets things cheaper because they are heavily subsidized, just like their EVs and a lot other stuff.
I use to buy a flagship phone every year, but now you get better features buying mid-range or even budget smartphones. This is $1800 for 256GB storage, no charging brick, no expandable storage, and no headphone jack? You could give me this for free and I'd still prefer my $250 Galaxy A52S.
If price is the only issue, I think it's only fair fair dimension that at least in the US, you'll basically never pay full price for it if you get it through a carrier. All the carriers that have it (LOOKING AT YOU, AT&T!), I'll give you a whole bunch of you stick with them for a few years, which, let's be honest, most people will anyway. I've had two foldables, and I've never paid more than half price for either of them. Especially with the productivity increases you mentioned, it's absolutely amazing, and have an absolutely recommend it anyone who's okay is trying new things and having to spend more on cases. Speaking of which, the case needs to have a hinge protector!
I never wanted to spend more than 450$ on a normal phone because in my opinion that's the sweet spot. Now days I'm a sucker for foldables too and starting with the Z Flip 3 in 2021 I broke my own rule and spent 650$ on it on release. After that I went to use a Duo 1 I bought for 400$ new. Now I wanted to get a Fold 6 but that price was just too much for me. Gladly I was able to get a new last gen Fold 5 for "just" 950$ 3 weeks ago just after the Fold 6 release and I absolutely love it. The price still hurts in my wallet.
Pixel phone prices are always insane to me. I'm on Google Fi and I was able to get a galaxy s24 ultra through them for half price and a free memory capacity upgrade on top. Google sells me a samsung phone worth 1400 for like 600, but their own pixel phone only ever is sold for a few hundred off so it's still like 900-1000
Remember when the Z Fold 1 released and was very expensive, but we thought as more generations of folding phones come out the tech will become easier to produce and cheaper...
A near 2k device not even including a charger is a disgrace.
Well, I ordered the global Honor V3 a couple of days ago. 1614,00 EUR using a coupon and Honor points. Included where a Honor Watch 4 (retail 129,00), a fastcharger wireless stand (retail 99,00), Honor wirless buds (retail 50,00) and a 66w supercharger (retail 29,00). So you get nice deals, just not with Google or Samsung.
@@HerrGrimmigerPetz and also probably wont work on a lot of american brands
i wanted some of xiaomi phones but realized i really wont get the same coverage as i could with a samsung, sony or oneplus phone
If only there were a reason why the prices haven’t come down. Oh. There is. Low adoption rate. Folding phones only sell enough to justify a new model every year, but not in the quantity to bring costs down. Because the prices stay high, the average phone owner won’t justify the spend and because they won’t the prices don’t budge
@@NyteStalker89 It might just be one of those things that is demonstrably really fucking cool but doesn't need to be anything more than a niche product. Can't wait for Apple to put out a fold though for $3k and see if they can manage to make one sell in large numbers.
You had me until you bleated out the nonsense about the charger. If you don't have an *entire drawer filled with USB chargers* then buy one for 10 bucks and stop squawking.
I work in sports media for a local media outlet in my area. Prior to that I worked in tech support. A little over 6 months ago I got a Pixel Fold. I, in both cases, have absolutely loved it. When doing tech it is awesome for remoting into devices, working on a ticket on my phone while being on Outlook and so much more. While on the media side, it is amazing for post game interviews where you can split a notes page, that has your questions on it, and the camera section for recording the interview. Haven't invested in the Pixel Pro 9 Fold but it is very tempting.
If Google gives a hefty trade in for previous gen, I think that would be a great upgrade
Sports media? Where at?
Fold 6 is better in every way
@@myaccount__7269 The stupid skinny outer screen is the hard suck.
@@rmp5s I like it tbh. Makes holding the phone way easier
"pretty big sound for such a skinny thing - that's what I tell my wife" LMAO
I really enjoy that we are still able to have these kind of jokes! Sadly, the feminism sensor is probably ringing loud when the word "thing" is used for a woman...
How's the couch treating you, pal?
@@grimzkunkI thought the "thing" was about the well-used sausage ಠ_ʖಠ
@grimzkunk you ok?
@@piusdoe8984 anything weird with my comment? 🤔
Minecraft zombies outside ur door like 3:51
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Underrated comment lmao
Took me a bit to get it but LOL!!
HAHAHAHAH
There's no "justifying" flagship phone prices. It's a phone. By all means, if you have more than enough money to spend on gadgets, go for it, but don't try to pretend over-$600 phone prices are "justified". Heck, it's nigh-impossible to do so for phones of over $400. Don't normalize these prices.
People can justify these prices, just as people can justify Lamborghini prices.
iPhones have been at the same price for like 7 years, even after the crazy inflation they can have enough profits from them. so I believe flagship phones are more expensive than they need to be
@noseboop4354 like I said, if you have the money for gadgets, go for it. That doesn't make it neither a justified price for the product, nor a justified price for the features.
Prices are just another way to represent value, some people value certain features over another, while some do not. Say like a Framework laptop has modularity feature but a 3x cheaper doesn't.
A 400$ phone can do everything people need. Outside of gaming but if you have so over 1800$ to spend on a phone then you have no problem buying gaming laptop or handheld PC.
There is no way you can justify the price. It's cool if somebody wants it and can afford it but there is nothing about the phone that is worth a price. So, I agree let's not normalize the prices.
0:42 "They say its the thinnest foldable phone!"
As long as you pretend China didn't exist, then yeah
I might be mistaken, but I believe in the keynote they specifically said "thinnest foldable phone in US", and they have similar note on the site.
@@bezrodnyigoryea they said that. Linus said it wrong.
Lol
I believe the correct terminology you are looking for is 'thinnest foldable phone available in US and Canada'.
werent the chinese ones exploding or was that a different Chinese phone
7:00 - the progressing "not bending flat" is caused by accumulation of dirt inside the mechanism casing, especially on the edges. I managed to fix that by cleaning out the hinge with post it notes xD It was LITERALLY a handful of lint in there packed tight as rock.
I own the original Pixel Fold. I love it. It's way too expensive for what it is but man is it ever nice to read or watch things on or work in split screen or just the fact you can take selfies with the good camera. It's just something I don't want to miss again.
I love Ferrari, same arguments
@@wethepeoplearethegovernmen8032 similar argument yes and also a similar answer. If you can afford it you have to decide if it's worth it for you. I would love to own a Ferrari but to get one I would need a massive loan which makes it not worth for me. A Fold I can afford so I bought it. Simple as that really
I just hope the prices go down for foldable phones in the future. They cannot sell u foldable phones over $1.500 in 10 years
Im sure they can and willl... plus inflation i guess we are gonna be at 2k for sure if you want a device for enthusiasts.
Tell me one reason, why in 10 years they should not be able to do what they do today? @@Unkownxxxxxxx
My big question with these foldables is always ″how long will that hinge last?″
I personally use phones for 4-5 years. I do t like to upgrade so i only do when my phone is about to actually die. Foldables sound like a nightmare for me idk...
considering they cost so much, i'd only consider if i get a 50% deal
Right now, you should pretty much expect a foldable to have a lifespan of about 2 years before it starts to get worn.
My big question is "how long will the glass along the hinge last" since we've seen the micro cracks in Samsung fold every year. And seeing the teardown for all these foldable phones we know the inner screen repair is a nightmare. Add to it that Google and Samsung both have some of the worst tech support I've ever had the displeasure of using, big pass...
I'd only get a foldable once the hinge cracks are permanently solved, or I can walk in and out with a new screen at little to no cost in 30 minutes.
im using the fold 4 for 2 years now its still in perfekt shape
Roughly a year and I can't complain. Not exactly as stiff as when I received it, but it is super stiff and stable still. If I had to put it into a percentage, I'd say... it lost like 10% ... ish? I do fold it very often, to be fair.
It only charges at 21w, Google was pretty misleading with the charging speed.
Are you using the right cable, as cables have different ratings
@@jakesinclair69420 Doesn't matter. It caps out at 21w
Google pixels 8 and 9 need a google charger to go over 20w. I have a 100w non-google charger and the phone will only take 15-18w when using a 240w capable cable. Google is using a different charging standard that isnt PD
I returned my pro fold for this exact reason. The charging was just too slow on a phone with 2 screens and battery isn't great either. for power users this is laughable in 2024!!
@@jakesinclair69420 Pixel 9 Pro Fold: Up to 21 watts (wired charging) with the Google 45W USB-C® Charger (sold separately) plugged into a wall outlet. Actual results may be slower.
Taken directly from googles comparison page
The problem is the technology of foldable phones get older but the prices go higher
9:00 how you didn't drop it is beyond me
Someone should make a supercut of linus joking about his wife
He once called her "excellent breeding stock" lmao
Surface duo, Honor magic v3 (launched in july) are both thinner than this, both folded and unfolded. wild claim google.
wouldn't count the surface duo since the display itself doesn't fold but yeah, google is just lying when the honor magic v3 exists
Guess they meant in US. Then its true as none of the global Chinese foldables are sold there by normal retailers with warantees and stuff.
But the software is already better than the Surface Duo ever was.
they * only in US 😂
@@adriano760”thinnest folding phone in the us and Canada”. Nice reading comprehension there bud.
People rant and rave about thinness and just accpet camera bumps. Why not make the phone as thick as the bump, and add durabilty, battery and stuff I can't think off?
Agreed, do you think the weight be an issue at that point? Id have to test one out to feel the weight in person. A 2 plus day battery would be a killer sell for power users
It will weight like a brick 😅
@@mellow862 They could use the increased space for lightweight stuff like a headphone jack, or a second USB port, or more/better speakers, or a larger camera sensor, or anything that makes the phone actually feel like a premium product.
@SaHaRaSquad yes they can actually add a headphone jack, but they chose not to because they want to sell their premium Bluetooth headphones while Sony is still keeping the jack it proves that there is always space for innovation
It's weight. Batteries are heavy.
WHAT IS WITH THE BLURRED OUT OVAL IN THE FIRST THREE SECONDS OF THE VIDEO?!
IT IS NOT THERE IN THE FLOATPLANE VERSION OF THE VIDEO.
For a hot second, I thought the title was refering to the PS5 pro's pricing in Canada. For the digital only version, in Canada, it's $949.99, before tax. Can actually build a decent PC for that price... Even more so if you add a controller, the external disc drive and PSnetwork subscription pricing into it.
I know CAD isn’t as high, but 950 is _insane_
You can almost buy two steamdeck OLED's for that price. Which in my opinion is already a way better device than a playstation or xbox ever will be.
I think it sgould be pointed out that Google is kind of using their own charging standard on the Pixel 8 and Pixel 9 phones. So you have to buy a Google charger to get the max charging rates. I have 100w chargers and my pixel 8 pro only will request 20w max, usually hovers around 15-18w.
Pixel 9 fold literally only reaches 21w max. Literally no more.
You are using the 3 button navigation which might be why you cant get out of camera inside open faced mode without unlocking first?
Split keyboard the unfolded can be changed to single handed size if you prefer.
Go with the OnePlus Open. It's more powerful, and after using it for 270 days, it's still performing as day 1.
Using the app Unfolded I got these specs for you:
Hinge Angle: 179° (with case on, without should be 180°)
Unfolds: 3446
Average per day: 12
It's really fast (Snapdragon 8 Gen 2), and reliable.
OxygenOS is also one of the better Android flavours, I prefer it over Samsung One UI.
No fluff, just useful extra's on top of AOSP.
iPhone 16 Pro max 1TB - £1599
Pixel 9 Pro XL 1TB - £1549
Pixel Pro 9 Fold 512GB - £1869
Galaxy Z Fold 6 1TB - £2099
Galaxy Z Flip 6 512GB - £1149
OnePlus Open 1TB - £1499
Ridiculous…
10:13 you ok?
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Please unbox tri-fold phone if can.
I wanna see Jerry rig everything bend test it lol
13:35 Gotta love that oleophobic coating
As someone with a foldable, my biggest gripe is that ultra thin glass NEED a plastic screen protector. And that protector SUCKS. It didn't even last 3 days without micro scratches, and you still need to bloody change the protector every year or so because it bubbles eventually. And it also really boggles my mind how Samsung still haven't managed to effing fix their crease while basically every other Chinese phone maker already did it LAST GEN, WITH Samsung's own display.
Had a fold 5 for a year now, hinge still feels just as good as the first day. I too am curious to see how reliable these are, I'll find out first hand.
Same here!
My Fold 3's hinge worked perfectly until I got caught in a dust storm. Now it only opens about 98% of the way unless I forceably hold it open. Still the best phone I've ever owned.
Same
I feel attacked, as I am in fact watching this on a surface duo.
5:36 It's because an HDR video is playing on the bottom.
For now the Foldable king stays the Oneplus Open. Best software with hardware combined.
The best hardware has the Honor Magic V3 but the software lacks behind.
one thing ive learned with google. ALWAYS buy last generation. they consistently lower the price to funny amounts of the originals
But the last gen fold is not better than this!
Both specs, modem and battery backup are better on 9 pro fold
@@hilmyakatsuki1665 well, wait for this to become the last generation then
@@pixel690 lol yeah
is honor a no-go for the channel? I thought linus as the folding phone lover would check out the magic V(insert version here)
It's a non event for alot of people
Isn't honor a huawei brand? Y'know, the one that's banned in the US over chinese spying and stuff? LMG is a canadian company, but southern neighbour dictates a lot not only in terms of the local market, but also audience. ZTE is also banned in the US, and you don't get to see it on video either.
@@NomstersoNHuawei don't own Honor anymore.
I guess honor only launch their product in eu
@@NomstersoN yeah, as someone that really liked huawei ui and shi, and was dailying a p30 pro for the last few years honor is a very comfortable ux to me, it is basically huawei ux with google being fully usable, while the whole spying controversy happened it looked a lot more like competition elimination to me, but yeah, the western user's trust might be gone, it's just that honor is very reasonably priced where I'm at, at like 1000$ for a pretty slick foldable, though I'm torn on whether I should actually be getting it, with the lack of reviews on them, and the whole spy-ware controversy
I'm going on a week with my 9 pro fold and love it so far. First foldable device I've ever owned.
You can't charge at 45w on the 9 Pro Fold. Not even close.
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@@DAMfoxygrampa it only charges at about 21 watts. 7.5 watts when wirelessly charged.
Fold 6 is better in every way
@@myaccount__7269 Maybe to some. Not to all.
@@myaccount__7269 Except in the AI stuff like now playing, hold for me, call screening. as well as cameras.
I have a pixel fold & I love it.. It's for power users. Most ppl don't explore all the capabilities of their phone.
Yep
Is it me or is there more echo in ShortCircuit audio recently? Super noticeable on headphones.
Yeah it's weird, makes the audio kind of shouty. Wanted to reduce the volume but still felt like I was being yelled at a bit (a lot more than in other LMG videos).
noticed this as well - a lot of echo in this video
Lol I thought it was my phone's speakers dying when I turned up the volume
Yeah, really bad.
I bought this phone simply to have a small tablet with me at all times for work. Its so nice to be able to open it up and look at spread sheets without having to zoom in or carry around a second bigger device just for that. Price is high, but if I had to buy a new phone and tablet separate, it would be comparable.
Phone repair guru built his own iPhone 13 for around $300.
What about we just start building our own phones? Definitely could make for a fun project if you are dedicated enough.
7:55 They should make a version of split keyboard where it includes buttons from the other side, so it’s more like two keyboards side by side so each thumb has access to all the keys
You can make a custom keyboard on samsung devices with goodlock keys cafe.
Are you guys gonna review the Honor Magic V3? The real Thinnest foldable
Yeah or the Huawei mate XT with 3 screens next to each other, so actually a phone with something Interesting... Not just the generic foldables
@@Gamer-kn7fi well, it is stupidly expensive and of less practical value
I'd love a comparison of some open ear earbuds. I feel like both the LTT and ShortCircuit channel haven't really kept up with that type of headphones.
Loving the vids btw
Could you please try the honor magic v3 next ?
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if google was to add a feature that lets you place the playing video closer to the top or bottom rather than center that would be cool.
the joke with big sound for a small thing with Yvonne was funny 😅
my father runs his business from a flip 4 so maybe this would be worth it for him. having his booking app open while texting customers could improve workflow
C'mon Linus, don't join the dark side. Keep staying on Android. 😢
Why do you give a flying flip if he does or doesn't
We on the dark side lost our hero Mr. Earl Jones. Let us have this! 😅
Blue side *
I'm 90% confident he'll be slowly but surely disillusioned the longer he mucks through dealing with Apple's bs. I'm 5% confident he'll actually like it long term, and 5% confident he won't care either way because he really just need a phone that works consistently, and like other phones, it will do that.
@@drewh4911 "dealing with apple's bs" mind giving an example?
I still like Samsung's approach
You can actually watch videos full screen on the inner display and the outer screen is actually good when you get used to it
Any chance we get your take on something like the honor magic V3, seems like a crazy device
For those that don't like the split keyboard, here's a pro tip, you can make it a floating keyboard on Gboard when in tablet/landscape mode.
its very disappointing that reviewers are ignoring the Honor magic v3
I have been using a folding phone for a few years and multitasking isn't even a big deal for me - I'll use teams and outlook side by side sometimes but the best parts for me is how much nicer it is to type and how much nicer reading is on it - most of what I use my phone for is quick research googling at work and I prefer desktop version of websites, rather than mobile which the large screen absolutely excels at. That's the focus and huge advantage for me and why I'd have trouble going back from a folder.
Honor is the thinnest foldable smartphone
For the love of god… put Linus in a room for two weeks and don’t let him out until he has his beard back…
You should check out the new Honor foldable Linus, I think you will find it is built better.
Finally! been waiting for your video since launch:)
My biggest problem with this foldable and flip phones is the fact that when i change my cellphone, every 3-5 years, i selll my old phone, with this phones that is impossible, the degradation over time is too big to make this a worth investiment for me.
In what world do you sell a 5 year old phone for 50% of the price? Even iPhones don't hold their value that strong
No phone is holding a tonne of value after 3-5 years. But I do agree a foldable would be even more difficult to get money back on. I never think about resell value honestly.
Resale value only matters when you're into yearly upgrades.
11:42
You just inspired an indie horror film/game, imagine this, but it makes it look like your entire head is facing the camera, now use it for documenting your kids' childhood, and mix that with the concept of a camera capturing a soul... Thats looking pretty entertaining, too bad i dont make stories. Its there if anyone wants it.
I'll just leave this here. If you guys are considering a foldable phone, do have a look at the Honor Magic V3. That thing absolutely crushes anything that the western market has to offer, and I'm pretty sure it also supports all of Google's services and whatever else you might need.
The vivo x fold 3 pro too
there is no pro version of the honor magic v3. but ur right it currently crushes very other foldable. unless u dont compare it to the huawei mate xt triple foldable but that doesnt offer any google service & ur stuck with their harmony OS & their (soc) hardware.
Why do people keep mentioning the honor V3? the only reason that thing is so thin is cuz the processor is half as good and the phone itself can't do as much, as smoothly as the pixel, you also get stock Android actual infrastructure in Western countries like Canada where I live, meaning proper customer care and replacements /repairs readily available
Also good luck getting a case for that thing in any storefronts in Canada or the US. This is a classic debate that we seem to have every year. Yes, the Chinese , Taiwanese and Korean manufacturers will often have insanely faster charging, sometimes better hardware and specific points, but will always lack in terms of customer service and infrastructure as well a clean optimized ecosystem which I will always opt for over super duper ultra mega supreme charging speeds and unnecessarily thin designs
@@Vss077 you're right, edited my comment. But the V3 is what I'm referring to, bought it myself and can't wait to try it out
Aliexpress has joined lol@@alexjohnson1869
Honestly, folding phones depreciate massively and quickly which makes them amazing a year later on the used market so long as you make sure they're in good condition.
Got my Honor Magic V3 im so hyped
I’ve switched from years of iPhone Pro Max phones and love the switch! It’s a great hybrid between a phone and a tablet and being able to multitask is a game changer for me. Only thing I wish was better was the camera, but it’s not as bad as it seems on paper.
Now if Google finally focuses on some fun and bouncy and smooth animations already... And native icon pack support for the pixel launcher that would be great
Pixel is really good with animations..
@@mrkring1526 it's not I have both Iphone and a Pixel and the Iphone clears with animations. I love Android but the animations on Iphones always made me envious.
@@kizanko turn up refresh rate
@@TheChcam its on 120hz then animations look bland.
Well, I have been working in T-Mobile in NYC, for the past 10 years, and I have seen all of the foldable devices starting with all the models of Samsung Z fold and Z flip, and ending with Google Fold. One thing i should say, that i like to point out to people all the time is that whenever something is UNIVERSAL, it ends up doing everything sure, but it doesn't really excell at anything at all. Sure the foldable phones are cool, but at 1900+ US dollars you are NOT getting the best camera, built in stylus, IP68 water and dust resistance, a durable screen that can actually survive 6 years of use, and many more features. So whenever people ask me what should they get a Z fold or a S24 Ultra, i always recommend them to get S24 Ultra, and, if they need to, a tablet like a Galaxy Tab S9 FE. You get THE BEST camera phone on the market with all the latest things, you also get a media BEAST in S9 FE as a tablet, videos aren't going to be cropped and you can multitask all day long with 10000 MAH battery, and you still have 50$ left to spare to buy a case.
Every time I hear the word "thinnest" I imediately think "Oh Great, can't wait to see Jerry fold that in half the not so intended way LoL!"
Jokes aside, thinn is sh*t, let's be honest people (including me) want something that Doesn't easily break. That DBrand screen protector though, Nice DBrand!
If Linus can live with a note 9 then you probably don't need anything much better.
lol imagine signing up for 36 month financing for a fucking cell phone.
Diabolical honestly. But plenty do it/will do it.
If you get a 1000 off promo from your carrier with trade in, it ends up being 25 a month for 36 months. If you can't afford 25 a month, you shouldnt be buying top tier phones.
It’s free financing. The principal, yeah, financing over 3 years is depressing. But paying $2k over 3 years is better than in a single day.
@@lozodiditpeople complained about $8 twitter blue cause “some people can’t afford it” so there’s that
Wish LinusTechTips did some research.
The Honor Magic V3 absolutely blows google and samsung out of the water, it's not even remotely close.
It's like showing a caveman walking around with a rock an iron pickaxe.
Chinese foldables are two generations ahead of this brick.
I bet the content is going to be perfect considering the 10% more cost in materials for like 3x the price. The best device is the one that most people use.........
0:45 Not anymore cause the Honor Magic v3 Just launched
And the huawei tri mate xt ( a tri fold) takes the title as of today.
it's not even the thinness minus that phone. its thinnest available in the US
What he said@@namelessxsilent
@@FreedomEagle0 but you can't buy it yet right?
@@genkidama4675 its already up for preorders since saturday
13:30 good to see thats actually a bit, I see you've spoken with machinists before. I'd love to see a tungsten carbide drill next time though, might show us what it can really do.
Wait for the price to fold then you can fold and justify the price.
This joke makes no sense...............
I'm going to be honest, as someone who was waiting for this review but decided to go ahead an order a Fold, the title was scaring me. (Yeah, it's expensive, but I really like foldables and I couldn't justify anything else. Still read other reviews on it and similar phones though.)
For a real review, I recommend Flozzy Carter
Bought one yesterday, hands down the best phone I've ever owned. Worth every penny
"Thinnest foldable" Ok, now we are just pretending the Surface Duo doesn't exist. Also ist the camera even counted?
Or the honor magic V3 which is actually the thinnest.
The Surface duo isn't the same kind of 'foldable' that is being talked about here though, is it?
That is a phone with two screens that folds, not a phone with a screen that literally folds in half. That is the kind of foldable that is being talked about here. So the Surface duo doesnt qualify.
@@jaymills1111 Still not the thinnest foldable.
Not the thinest. Not even close
Surface duo wasn't a "foldable" in the way it's being used here. It was just a device that contained a hinge.
As someone who has daily'd both a Z Fold AND the Pixel Fold for over a year each, I can say with confidence that the only reason you'd ever need a screen as big as it is IF you need it for work. The rest of the time you will inevitably end up using it folded. The nice thing about the Pixel Fold is that they thought about this when designing it and gave you an actually usable outside screen unlike the Z Folds of yester years.
I spent a lot of time working with mine, editing spreadsheets and using applications where a larger than normal screen just makes the experience better. I currently work as a rideshare driver and the amount of screen real estate a folding device gives you is just fantastic. I used to hear about drivers running iPad Minis with LTE connections to accomplish the same thing and to not have to worry about bringing a second device along is a game changer.
Na i love reading manga and using the internet on the big screen on my pixel fold.
@@smokemyjohnson6755 It's also great for simply viewing photos that you've taken with the phone, it's way better than viewing them on any regular candy-bar phone.
0:45 Xiaomi fold 3 is thinner
It's software is also thinner.
They actually only claimed to be the thinnest foldable phone in the United States. Xiaomi is not officially sold overseas.
Xiaomis morals are thinner too
And the honor magic v3 is thinner than that lol and better cameras
Still using an LG G8X, $700 and after 5 years its still going really well. Verizon puts out regular updates and with LG phone division folded it won't get "sunset" forcing a slow down. This looks impressive though if my phone dies, I could go for this as a replacement.
My Samsung Z Fold 4 inner screen has just recently started lifting up, I'm told it's a common issue. I think i'm blackpilled when it comes to foldables, might give in and go Apple next year.
Nooo dont there are a lot of androids that you will never complain about. Don't yoin that side!!! BTW I also use a foldable
Comparing Iphones with foldables makes no sense.
@@AlphaSteam2 They might just be tired of choosing gimmicks over something that just works.
@@General_M They are plenty of Androids that are not gimmicks and just work. Like the pixel 9, the non foldable version of the pixel fold. If he said he's blackpilled with Androids because they have been a bad experience that would make more sense.
The comment implies that Androids = foldables. Which makes no sense.
@@General_M Há yes. The throttling your phone when the new one comes after a year type of experience. Just works™
7:26 "even media content I didn't always bother opening up the inner display"
Legit laugh at this while watching the video with my vivo xfold 3 pro cover display. I can vouch for that 😂
Got the 9 Pro XL and another 9 Pro Fold in the household. I'm super jealous after using it a bit. It's actually amazing
google: we have the thinest foldable. meanwhile honor entered the room
"woooow this is such a good display" meanwhile me watching on a 4:3 dell lcd from 2002 that came with a dell optiplex: "mhm yeah that's got such good blacks"
Could we get a series on the main channel of people doing small daily driving challenges with phones to get a deeper look at their quirks with their OS/Hardware, especially those for more expensive/lesser known devices?
The phone was in 'navbar' mode not gesture. When you swiped up from the bottom in the camera app, a little back arrow came up which was to be pressed to go back :')
I love how we're slowly getting 2010 Linus back.
To whoever did the color grading in this video, thank you! My eyes can finally rest
watch it side to side with another short circuit for the difference, very apparent on the LTT mat for example
Ain't no way any foldable could survive to mister newborn dexterity himself
Gboard, Gboard, Gboard, & you guessed it Gboard.
13:34 Scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7
6:28 nem linus face meme dropped
I recently upgraded from a Fold 3 to a Fold 6, since T-Mobile was offering me $1,100 USD tradein on my 3 that I had paid off. I don't know what the 5 was like, but the 6 is a significantly better design than the 3 or 4 were. The thing just feels more solidly built, though some of that may be just because its new. It's a bit wider when closed, so you aren't occasionally handicapped with what you can do without unfolding it like the 3, but it's also significantly thinner overall and especially when closed, so it isn't any harder to hold.
For me, the best benefit (among several) of the foldable is the big screen making a much better device for reading things (novels or comic books, for example. I will never go back to a non-foldable if I can avoid it. It's so much money, but I do get so much benefit out of it, so the math kinda balances out for me. It's the same when it comes to the other drawbacks of foldable devices.
Open, it fits a 6.5" 16:9 image.
Closed, it fits a 5.3" 16:9 image.
Noticeable, but not the primary use. Open full-screen use is the best reason to get a foldable.
Any foldables yet configured better for 16:9 content?
@@Uncle_Fred No. For that, you'd basically need a nearly square phone to start with, and open it to perfect 16:9. The best you can get now are flip phones.
The solution is coming, phones that trifold into a bar, and near 16:9 when open, like the Huawei Mate XT.
@@costafilh0 yeah, I saw that. It sounds ideal. Shame folds in Western markets remain ultra expensive.
@@Uncle_Fred They remain expensive everywhere. China gets things cheaper because they are heavily subsidized, just like their EVs and a lot other stuff.
I use to buy a flagship phone every year, but now you get better features buying mid-range or even budget smartphones. This is $1800 for 256GB storage, no charging brick, no expandable storage, and no headphone jack? You could give me this for free and I'd still prefer my $250 Galaxy A52S.
If price is the only issue, I think it's only fair fair dimension that at least in the US, you'll basically never pay full price for it if you get it through a carrier. All the carriers that have it (LOOKING AT YOU, AT&T!), I'll give you a whole bunch of you stick with them for a few years, which, let's be honest, most people will anyway. I've had two foldables, and I've never paid more than half price for either of them. Especially with the productivity increases you mentioned, it's absolutely amazing, and have an absolutely recommend it anyone who's okay is trying new things and having to spend more on cases. Speaking of which, the case needs to have a hinge protector!
2nd hand phone is where its at. Get a flagship 2 years late. Piece of mind and performance.
I never wanted to spend more than 450$ on a normal phone because in my opinion that's the sweet spot. Now days I'm a sucker for foldables too and starting with the Z Flip 3 in 2021 I broke my own rule and spent 650$ on it on release. After that I went to use a Duo 1 I bought for 400$ new. Now I wanted to get a Fold 6 but that price was just too much for me. Gladly I was able to get a new last gen Fold 5 for "just" 950$ 3 weeks ago just after the Fold 6 release and I absolutely love it. The price still hurts in my wallet.
It's not the thinnest foldable but it is the thinnest in the Western Hemisphere😅
Pixel phone prices are always insane to me. I'm on Google Fi and I was able to get a galaxy s24 ultra through them for half price and a free memory capacity upgrade on top. Google sells me a samsung phone worth 1400 for like 600, but their own pixel phone only ever is sold for a few hundred off so it's still like 900-1000
My fold 3 needed a screen so I jumped back into my Note 9 while I waited for it to arrive. Funny to see Linus went back to his Note 9 also.