Recovering From Religion - You Are Not Alone
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Recovering from Religion community members and volunteers discuss the highs and lows of walking away from their faith and discovering a new way to live as well as the role Recovering from Religion played in their journey. As they reached out for help and community, they realized that they weren't alone and that many people have stories just like theirs.
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It's so EXHAUSTING pretending to still be Christian around parents and family...
God forbid they find out I've discovered myself...
Thank you SO MUCH.. I’m in tears now realizing just how desperately I need this kind of support. It was almost too much to actually hear others talk of the same agony I face.
Amanda, Thanks so much for sharing that with us. So many times, people think they are alone, but they aren’t. ❤️
I was raised a Christian in the bible belt of the US. When I was 15-16 I started to explore my religion and quickly became an atheist. I'm 25 now but every time I hear a French horn or something similar my heart still skips a beat because the thought of it being the rapture horn is ingrained into my psyche. Childhood beliefs run deep and they don't go away easily.
This happens to me too. Since leaving my faith, every time I hear the horns from my nearby fire department, I immediately get shaken up into thinking of the rapture. However, it’s essential to remind ourselves that this doesn’t reflect reality and a great reminder of that for me is when I recognize that it’s just the alarm sound from the fire department, not some made up mythological horn that alerts us of a rapture.
I thought this was just me, so comforting to hear other go through this too. We'll get through it
Same for me
Except the harder thing is fear of hell, because the catholic church ingrained that heavily in me.
Omg you poor dear. I'm so sorry. I'm dealing with similar bs. Hell, in particular.
I am so glad they are talking about this, we need to move forward in society without religions
Rick Brummer: Oh yes - indeed
My heart goes out to all of those suffering in this country because they are different in any way. You are beautiful and you be you.
I absolutely believe Religions/ Bible is not healthy at all. Leaving my faith (Christian) was detrimental on my mental health. I suffer a great amount; I had to go to the psych ward several times because I was out of touch with reality. I am still recovering and working on my mental health daily. One thing that seem affect me tremendously are these scary vivid dreams that seem so real. I feel someone is attacking me while I sleep. Not to mention, I feel things are happening to my bodies. For example, while I sleep, I felt there were things roaming in my stomach. I even feel someone touching me sexually while I sleep. These occurrences left me depressed and cried most time they happen. I have made the decision to get some professional help because I don't think I will survive if I don't
Same thing minus the sexual stuff.
Honestly most Times I shack it off and othèr times I scream at night when I have those problems.
But I always had sleeping problems even when I was a Christian and still had nightmares.
But the nightmares got worse after I left and sleep apnea doesn't help.
My sleep apnea might be triggering my sleep paralysis.
Hope things get better for you because this shit suck.
By sucking I mean sleep problems.
your story is eerily similar to my own, including psych wards.. fear levels i could never even imagine.. best thing we can do, is stay grounded, put on the phones, talk, eat sleep, and above all come back to Earth and know that we are Human Beings.. therapy yes, but make sure they are a good understanding one.. believe you me.
That sounds terrible. Good on you for seeking help. We offer a Helpline with trained agents as well as a referral program for people looking for secular therapists.
You can access our Helpline here: www.recoveringfromreligion.org
You can access the Secular Therapy Project here: www.seculartherapy.org
Please let us know how things are working out when you can
@@lilnarm_smoothblaze things are okay, taking it day by day 💛
What a great introduction! I was raised outside of religion and when I hear someone's escape I am just further appalled by the horror stories they have, and what they've gone through. I have nothing but respect for the people who work to, and try to bring stability for someone who's lost their entire social circle simply because they don't believe the same things.
Thank you! All part of a more civilized world....
Too late. My head is too brainwashed. Lived in Fear and guilt all my life...now in my sixties.
@anish b Hi Anish! Thank you for your reply. I don't feel so alone... But this fear of hell is SO persisting...Not sure how the organization can make one lose/get rid of this fear. Thanks again. Mario
@anish b Hi Anish b, but The Bible says it "Eternal burning & sufferings". I would rather think (but it's hard) that we just fall asleep and "that's it". I agree with you that worshiping a Psychopathic god' is not thrilling at all. I've read the whole bible, and I have come out with so many more questions that there are no answers to. So many behaviors of his (so many killings_ that are totally insane (to me). That is NOT what a Father is to me.
@anish b aaaawgh! you are SO kind!! You make a lot of sense. Thank you.
Me too. I'm 79.
@@joeminella5315 :-/ I'm sorry to hear that you too are suffering Joe. It's always my intention to write to someone from "Recovering From Religion" to ask "How on earth" does one get de-brainwashed from this visceral fear of this ever Angry god of ours...and the fear of this Hell...Thank you for sharing, Joe.
I just found out about your support organisation and I almost feel affected to tears. I have grown up in an atheist society, but I still feel in pain over the threats of religion. It got worse after a trauma I had when I smoked weed once. In common life I will feel safe and are atheist, but then I sometimes fall emotionally out of that and it feels as if religion could be right, I get a terrible "what if". That can be extremly scary and mentally breaking down. I feel like religion is extremly effective in breaking down psyche and I don't know how to protect myself from the extreme fear that can come from it. This is not focused specifically on people like me, but I can totally get how people who grew up with religion can need this resource. Great that you exist!
"pain over the threats of religion". Yes, definitely for me also Caroline. "Very" difficult" to try and "rationalize" that it is all absurd and fairy tale like.
@@1viva Sad to hear that this is an issue for you too. For me this is not usually the issue. It usually just sounds like absurd fairy tales that I wonder how people get so attached to. But I do get your position a bit anyhow. It was when I got into other states that I lost a grip on reality and couldn't know anything anymore. I could mentally "fall out of materia" and that made everything so complex that I would loose surety of everything. This makes someone extremely psychologically vulnerable, and religious people are using that against people by existential threats if you don't follow their "package". They are probably usually already taken by their psychological prison themselves, where they think that someone is watching them and judging them in every moment. This is a fear based life that makes them unable to for example question the fairy tales of their religion, and so they often have to be rationally dishonest in normal life.
Religious people will often constantly talk about all the "love" in their religion (like Oprah), but when this is hiding in the shadows of what they're doing and saying, I can't see anything but fear, falseness and a mental prison in their beliefs. It's not really "love" when a hell is around the corner. It's alarmingly scary. And I immensly wish a psychological freedom for myself and for other people from this. People need to be able to not believe in a god or anything without being psychologically threatened. They have to be able to think on their own, rather than for example making god the greatest judgement and sharia the rule of all.
Religion should not hold the world back and we need to rise humanity instead. Work together, not harm each other.
@@cgortz89 Hi Caroline! Very well written. Fear is still and will always be the BEST selling factor. "There's no ♥ in there..." :-/😢
Can't believe the exactly same thing happened to me
@@fridabbasov4792 if you ever feel like actually listening to any religion the main thing is youre literally a God and he doesn't care if youve literally murdered people just go talk to him even cuss him out the main most important thing is he would kill his son temporarily for you before you were born so what do you think will happen when you send him memes in your head or actually appreciate the life he gave you...hell literal celebrate you with a party once you die...thats better than going with everyone else whose full of hate even to a dark cloud in the sky... you don't need hell or heaven to realize its a story of love...
Thank you. We need you.
A friend of mine is a social worker/therapist who helped organizer a support group for people who were harmed emotionally and /or physically by evangelical religions. The group does not oppose religion per se; it takes no position basic questions about whether a deity exists. It's there to help people heal their own wounds.
My friend did not found the group. Many people who had been coming to the clinic for help kept reporting that their traumas had the same source -- evangelical religions. They started networking and formed the group themselves.
De-programming what was TOLD to believe from birth is probably more difficult for some than others. I don't have a definitive "time stamp" on how it happened for me. I'm nearly 50 now and can easily look back at how I was raised and pick a thought stream or emotion to fit pretty much anything. Stepping back and taking a look at humanity as a whole, the thought that some paperback book filled with ghosts and magic does not suffice a reality. I walked the walk and talked the talk much like the mimic of some birds. Once I was old enough ( teens I guess ) to understand I was really being expected to think it was all real, it didn't take long for me to tell people I honestly thought they had to be joking. I'm saddened to think so many people in my personal orbit honestly believe I'm going to burn in a giant lake of fire, but am comforted by the fact that I know it all just came from an old book of tales.
I'm a recovering pastafarian, his noodles ain't real.
@ASMR with Samantha 😄
Thank you.
This sounds like a great organization and I’m excited to find out more info. Been on my own for 18 years trying to unlearn all that shit that was shoved into my head for 18 years prior. Fml the indoctrination is so deep!
Goodness. We're so sorry to hear about the indoctrination, Adam, but you're definitely not alone in that. We hear from so many people decades later who are still unpacking those experiences and understanding how it still affects their lives today. Please visit our site to chat with one of our agents or browse resources that may be able to help you on your journey.
@@RecoveringfromReligion thank you so much 😊
Wondering about folks from the Orthodox Christian and Jewish faith traditions. Are you seeing anything? I have a friend who was raised in the Greek Orthodox Church. He posted today in support of those who observe Passover. Several years ago I watched the BBC production of Elie Weisel's book, God on Trial. The brutality of the god in general and the plagues as well as the angel of death are chilling. Whenever I see Passover in my calendars or see people celebrating it on Facebook, I remember the BBC production. I asked my friend about recovering Jews and recovering Orthodox Christians and he responded, recovering from what. I did a specific search, but found only religious drug addiction recovery websites.
The entire world society is built on the Abrahamic Religions. We all need to recover from their rule.
i grew up in religion,, wont say which.. first time i was aware of going to a church i was maybe less than 5. Now ive had experiences with school, felt like a chore, but approaching this Church building, i got a VERY uncomfortable feeling. you all know when your mom tells ya stuff, like take a bath, get up to go to school, or dishes.. your like.. oooh boring.. all that, but i am NOT talking about that at all, nor is that even a big deal.. it was a sunny day, and i saw the people gathering into this building, i felt something very wrong about this place or the people.. on a more recent note, LGBTQ are kinda split in this religion.. some have rights, and some they give none.. another subject, one of my coworkers told me the reason why there are so many suicides in Utah, is because there is almost nothing to do downtown.. and if you are transgender like me, heaven help you.. i told my Sister and my Dad they shouldnt even teach some things they do.. (sons of perdition) for one.. i spent a few hours in the ER from being scared out of my mind.. i just listened to the nurses, and came back down to reality.. so to speak.. i told my Dad, people like me with anxiety issues, etc. should be screened before setting foot in this place.. OK now, this is getting very long, and there is SO much more. BUT better here, than bringing up the dark stuff to my wife.. and ruining her day with the bleak shit, rather than trying JOY in life..
HI - Would you please consider reposting this without the music? The reason being is that the music adds a level of hype. This is an important topic that I would like to share with others without any appearance of hype/propaganda. I need a video that shows people being free from religion that is just straight testimony (no hype/music). Thanks for considering. And thanks for all you're doing!
I am recover for like 6-7 whole year I don’t felt I deserve to even sleep is crazy and abusive I also sacrifice my study and lifestyle to religion
Right now I'm going through delusions from time to time. Sometimes I get an image of 'Satan' and 'Jesus'. It's driving me crazy! I don't know how to stop it!
You should go see a doctor
Very Respectfully, if you feel like you are "really" seeing an image of Satan and or Jesus and that you they are physically present with you and perhaps talking to you, then you should go see your MD. You may nee psychotherapy and medication. I am saying this because I care.
Must have been terrible. A good base is to realize that it is still delusions. That we as humans can get strong illusions that are shaped by the underlying stories we have been told. It tells us more about how strong and amazing our psyche is than about any certain religion. People from all religions have these, and they differ a lot.
@@cgortz89 You write so well Caroline!!
@@1viva Thanks, nice to hear. ^^
Do you guys have any mental health support groups?Because im getting tired of the one im in of people talking about how great god is and other spiritual stuff that has been detrimental to my health and just triggers me.
Yes we do. Here's the info
To find local peer support group meetings near you or to start your own:
www.meetup.com/pro/recovering-from-religion
To find a secular therapist or to learn about The Secular Therapy Project:
www.seculartherapy.org
I am recovering from religion it’s so lonely because the religious people took advantage of me in every way as a child. Now I have boundaries, i and was told I am going to hell. I am finally able to free from the bullying. ruclips.net/channel/UCNnPTnhfJgrw9bvgwrp6GqQ
"The culture of guilt."
For you. Not for them. Only they can cast stones. They've met Jesus in heaven already and came back because God favors them and has a "special" bond with them.
The cult of narcissism. That is what Christianity does. It neuropsychologically rewires you into a spiritual narcissist. Much how Buddhism turns you into a dissociative, high functioning psychopath.
Don't leave out Judaism or are you not allowed to talk about their genital mutilation and rape of 8 day old boys?
These people certainly deserve to heal with the path they choose.
However, as an agnostic who values the bill of rights greatly, I'm hoping this is nothing more than a support group for atheists in need and doesn't encourage disdain for our religious peers.
I hope everyone knows that there are good people and abusive people among theists and atheists. I've met all 4 of those types.
If things were my way, I'd have all books and philosophies coexist in harmony, and everyone accepts each other for their different beliefs.
My aunt is Christian and we love each other despite our opposite views on the doctrine.
I dislike Christianity but I would still defend its preservation because it's one of infinite forms of philosophy.
All I wanted to hear was how the one thought they gave so much and did everything "god" wanted.
One problem about this is that it was not accommodate to the needs of Deaf/Hard of Hearing: provide ASL interpreting services at events they host but on videos with closed captions which is great, need more than just that for instance, learn other language beside English like French, Spanish or Germany or visual/sign language of each countries. Truth is Audism is very strong out there, ahh... what is Audism? Audism: "The notion that one is superior based on one's ability to hear OR behave in the manner of one who hears." Too many of us are isolated out there because no one speaks to them through American Sign Language (ASL). Everyone is afraid of us Deaf human beings because we are different, no we are the same inside and out but the ability to hear, no. It is quite a discouragement for all of us because we don't matter to the Hearing society which is very bad due to eugenics in science and CDC already labeled us as defects in their language, wow. Bet you didn't know that, sure this issue is not even in your knowledgeability because we are minorities, how irony atheists we are minorities, too. I spoke from experiences when met people with ignorance and attitude, not Deaf-friendly. Enough said.
Robert D. Moore Everyone has to wait until services can be provided. I'm just glad someone is trying to start a support group.
Hello Robert -
Thank you for alerting us! We apologize for the oversight of not having appropriate access to the content available to the deaf/hard of hearing community. It has been updated with Captioning!
Thanks again for reaching out to us.
Recovering from Religion
Thank you, thank you. I feel informative now 😊
If you think this is needed, volunteer and help. No one is stopping you from helping with this.
Being deaf isn't a good thing and means you have a disorder or handicap. That doesn't make you bad. I have my own disorders, but I don't think that makes either of us "defects." I'd rather not have any of my disorders and I'm sure you would rather hear, too.
Thank you so much for this feedback! We are working on being more inclusive.
You might he interested in Justin Vollmar, who is a deaf ex-clergy member who is now an atheist: ruclips.net/user/VirtualDeafChurch
NON si sta riprendendo dalla RELIGIONE. Si sta riprendendo dalle chiese cristiane. Non ho mai sentito una persona dire: "Ho lasciato il cristianesimo perché sentivo che Gesù non mi amava".
You can have the right deception of Christianity or the wrong deception and a lot of people have the wrong deception
Not every Christian church or college is like that they’re not all bad it’s just people think that Christian is only for certain race it and it’s for all races
all religion, politics, social movements... same shitty manipulation stuff...
JESUS CHRIST is not a religion!
@ASMR with Samantha that"s not true my friend
Yes, yes he is