Recovering from Religion
Recovering from Religion
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RfRx - Screwing with Sexuality: An ExJW's Story, featuring Shana Rubio
This week on RfRx, Shana Rubio discusses growing up as a Jehovah’s Witness and experiencing shaming around sex, sexuality, and her body. Although she was very devout for the first 28 years, she was disfellowshipped (ex-communicated) in 2000 for not following the strict rules regarding sex. However, she continued to believe it was the one true religion and it was just a matter of time before she would be killed in Armageddon. Join us to hear Shana’s story of overcoming harmful myths about sex and sexuality, deconstructing her faith, finding secular support, and ultimately becoming a leader in secular organizations helping others recover.
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RfRx - My Savior Comes to Thee and Me, featuring Mary Byler
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This week on RfRx, join us to hear Mary Byler’s account of survival and escape from an Amish community. What if we could be our own rescuers and heroes and saviors? What if trauma survivors were empowered by language to build their own support network of trusted folks and be celebrated and accepted? Now an author and coach specializing in working with survivors of cults and conservative sectari...
RfRx - Building Secular Community, featuring Darante’ LaMar Martin
Просмотров 10721 день назад
This week on RfR, we will continue the conversation around community building. Former pastor and author Darante’ LaMar Martin joins us to share his inspirational experience of questioning faith, leaving the fold, and ultimately rebuilding community. He will discuss why secular communities don’t need a blueprint and why they have a responsibility to impact the world around them. Darante’ LaMar's...
RfRx - Visibility of the “Invisible” in the Humanist Community, featuring Rebecca Vitsmun
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This week on RfRx, humanist author Rebecca Vitsmun joins us to discuss invisible disabilities in the humanist community. Rebecca will discuss invisible disabilities and how to spot them, and describe the prevalence of some of these unique traits in the humanist, atheist, or “none" community. She will also explore the prevalence of underdiagnosis of some of these conditions and share ideas for m...
RfRx - The Importance of Community, featuring Secular Rarity
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Sometimes the most challenging part of leaving one’s faith is not leaving the beliefs behind but losing the community. This week on RfRx, Secular Rarity joins us to discuss the importance of community and how to find or build yours. Hosted by Kara Griffin, RfR Online Programming Director, and Rob Palmer, RfR Helpline Agent & Ambassador Recorded on July 1, 2024 Resource List: www.recoveringfromr...
RfRx - Reclaiming Your Pride, featuring Glenda Jordan, Dr. Ben, and Jonathan Roudabush
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Join us this week on RfRx as we continue to celebrate Pride Month! Back by popular demand, we will continue the conversation with a group of LGBTQ panelists discussing how they recovered and reclaimed their pride despite harmful messaging about sexuality and gender identity. We’ll talk about building community, overcoming guilt and shame, positive sexuality, resources for people who are struggl...
RfRx - The Implausibility of the Resurrection, featuring Richard Gilliver
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This week on RfRx, Richard Gilliver returns to provide practical application of skeptical thinking to religious claims. Richard will tackle the accounts of the resurrection of Jesus. How can we determine whether these accounts are accurate and reliable? What should we expect from claims about historical events? Hosted by Kara Griffin, RfR Online Programming Director, and Helen Green, RfR Ambass...
RfRx - Pride Panel featuring Glenda Jordan, Dr. Ben, and Jason Friedman
Просмотров 137Месяц назад
Join us this week on RfRx as we celebrate Pride Month with a panel of Recovering from Religion volunteers, plus special guests, sharing their experiences as members of the LGBTQ community navigating life in and out of religion. They'll discuss coming out, deconstruction, how to be an ally, and LGBTQ resources Hosted by Kara Griffin, RfR Online Programming Director, and Helen Green, RfR Ambassad...
RfRx - Decisions of Life and Death, featuring David Teachout
Просмотров 106Месяц назад
Religion is not just a system of belief, but a way of organizing the decisions concerning life and death. This week on RfRx, let’s reflect on principles of humanism as we look at the practical decisions to make for the end of life. We’ll consider the nature of rituals, funeral decisions, and what is left behind. David Teachout is a mental health therapist and photographer, focused on and teachi...
RfR Stories Australia | Ep.4: Ex-Catholic Chrissie Foster
Просмотров 2262 месяца назад
Listener discretion is advised as this video contains a discussion regarding child sexual assault within the Catholic religion In this fourth episode of RfR Stories Australia, we hear Chrissie Foster's story. Chrissie was raised Catholic in Australia and was devout throughout her early life and early adulthood. Chrissies relationship with Catholicism took an incredibly dark turn when, to her an...
RfRx - Ross Blocher Infiltrates Scientology
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Ross is an accomplished animation professional working at Disney. He has worked on numerous award-winning films including The Princess and the Frog and The Simpsons Movie. The latest film he has a credit on is the recently-released Wish. Since early 2011, Ross has co-hosted a Skeptically themed weekly podcast called Oh No, Ross and Carrie, an investigative journalism podcast produced in Los Ang...
RfRx - A Conversation with Aron Ra
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This week on RfRx, Aron Ra will be our special guest. Join us for a wide ranging conversation on topics including atheism, humanism, skepticism, critical thinking, anthropology, science education, creationism, evolution… and snakes. We might even ask him about the anti-evolution claims Tucker Carlson made on a recent Joe Rogan Experience episode! Aron Ra is the host of the Ra-Men Podcast and a ...
RfRx - Military Atheists & Freethinkers, Featuring Will Harrell
Просмотров 1782 месяца назад
This week on RfRx, Will Harrell, an active duty US Army nurse, NCO, and Atheist In A Foxhole, joins us to discuss navigating military service as an atheist and freethinker. While on a recent deployment, Will established a Secular Humanist Support Group at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait with the help of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers (MAAF).The group became a safe place for deployed...
RfRx - A Musical Evening with Shelley Segal
Просмотров 1582 месяца назад
Shelley is a singer/songwriter known for her secular-themed music, who has performed at many atheist/secular events including the Reason Rally and the American Humanist Association conference. Her song "Saved" is used as the intro & the outro theme by The Atheist Experience, and she wrote a song for RfR, "Not Alone," that is used on our Helpline. So join us for what will be a fun, musical eveni...
RfRx - The Line Panel Discussion Featuring Shannon Q, Paulogia, Eve Was Framed, and Aron Ra
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It’s fundraiser week (in the past) at RfRx and we are once again collaborating with our friends from The Line. Join us this week for an intimate conversation with Shannon Q, Paulogia, Eve was Framed, and Aron Ra. Don’t miss this chance to hear perspectives from some of our favorite public activists about their deconversion stories, skepticism, science, and what recovering from religion means to...
RfR Stories Australia | Ep.3: Ex-Mormon Shawn
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RfR Stories Australia | Ep.3: Ex-Mormon Shawn
RfR: What We Do
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RfR: What We Do
RfRx - Crimes of Faith In Latin America, featuring Teo el Ateo
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RfRx - Crimes of Faith In Latin America, featuring Teo el Ateo
RfRx - Playing God: The Evolutionary History of World Religions, featuring David Fitzgerald
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RfRx - Playing God: The Evolutionary History of World Religions, featuring David Fitzgerald
RfRx - Interfaith Family: Marriage and Parenting with Mutual Respect, featuring Steve Ghikadis
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RfRx - Interfaith Family: Marriage and Parenting with Mutual Respect, featuring Steve Ghikadis
RfR Stories Australia | Ep.2: Ex-Apostolic Church Sallyann from Perth
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RfR Stories Australia | Ep.2: Ex-Apostolic Church Sallyann from Perth
RfRx - Black and White Thinking in a Grey World, featuring Dr. Ben
Просмотров 1804 месяца назад
RfRx - Black and White Thinking in a Grey World, featuring Dr. Ben
RfRx - The Trials and Tribulations of Mental Health Therapy, featuring David Teachout
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RfRx - The Trials and Tribulations of Mental Health Therapy, featuring David Teachout
RfRx - Mythicism 101, featuring John Gleason
Просмотров 2275 месяцев назад
RfRx - Mythicism 101, featuring John Gleason
RfRx - The Devil is in the Details, featuring JD Sword
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RfRx - The Devil is in the Details, featuring JD Sword
RfR Stories Australia | Ep.1: Ex-JW Jonathan from Perth
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RfR Stories Australia | Ep.1: Ex-JW Jonathan from Perth
RfRx - Be You: Liberating Your Authentic Self with Ember
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RfRx - Be You: Liberating Your Authentic Self with Ember
RfRx - The Law of Attraction with Rachel Hunt
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RfRx - The Law of Attraction with Rachel Hunt
RfRx - Love is Not a Mystery with David Teachout
Просмотров 1316 месяцев назад
RfRx - Love is Not a Mystery with David Teachout
RfRx - Mormon Book Club:Tennis Shoes Among the Nephites with Stephanie M (Contraddiction)
Просмотров 1416 месяцев назад
RfRx - Mormon Book Club:Tennis Shoes Among the Nephites with Stephanie M (Contraddiction)

Комментарии

  • @joeminella5315
    @joeminella5315 45 минут назад

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @chorebunny8080
    @chorebunny8080 2 часа назад

    Wow I appreciate her listing the tabu stuff ..I forgot how controlling it actually was ..so happy to be free now

  • @pathfinder1273
    @pathfinder1273 3 дня назад

    So... let me get this straight... since virtually all of the people who have existed in history have left no trace whatsoever, that means that only a few thousand people have ever existed. Hmm, very interesting theory.

  • @drrahulpatil7415
    @drrahulpatil7415 4 дня назад

    Was Gary Wilson really an atheist?

  • @jtsomers
    @jtsomers 9 дней назад

    I found community with my local Rotary Club and love it!

  • @jtsomers
    @jtsomers 9 дней назад

    Thanks!

  • @tammysims8716
    @tammysims8716 10 дней назад

    The levels of deception are mindblowingly obvious and are so sad.

  • @trishakoury-stoops2372
    @trishakoury-stoops2372 16 дней назад

    Actually.. the devil is good, love and god is evil.. if you think about it

  • @trishakoury-stoops2372
    @trishakoury-stoops2372 16 дней назад

    I absolutely love the background! And this interview! Big fan of you both! Xo ❤

  • @DragonsinGenesisPodcast
    @DragonsinGenesisPodcast 16 дней назад

    Seeing experts examine all the reasons why Jesus is mythical and then concluding that he must have been real without providing evidence is like reading that chapter in Moby Dick where he lays out all the reasons whales are mammals and then concludes they're fish.

  • @williamkelly5567
    @williamkelly5567 17 дней назад

    God didn't make you gay. You choose that yourself . Let me guess. When you were younger.you like playing with dolls. That's normal cause they look like ppl. Pretend is very common. As you got older you didn't like girls. Why .? It wasn't your time. Now you are even older and you don't have a girlfriend. That's cause God has someone set aside for you. Satan knows that it takes a male and female to produce a child. That will be the next generation. That next generation will worship God. But if there isn't another generation. Then there will NOT. be any more ppl to worship God. Satan hates mankind

  • @suzannemckenzie7035
    @suzannemckenzie7035 17 дней назад

    I agree w the soft place to land! Where are those?

  • @lovinglife9743
    @lovinglife9743 18 дней назад

    This video was quite informative. Thanks. 🩵

  • @WaysToHuman
    @WaysToHuman 24 дня назад

    Guess where some of that money goes? To protect priests from being persecuted when they abuse kids! Sick.

  • @alexanderalley5769
    @alexanderalley5769 25 дней назад

    Questioning God If He Was Real? “I’ve got some questions for you” They’re always taken aback by it cause they expect you to say “I’d drop to my knees and repent and beg for forgiveness” no I’m asking the mother fucker “why cancer? Why diseases of any kind? Why such tremendous heart break and emotional pain? To make me stronger? For what? The other pain you created? Out of all things why any of this on innocent children? You could’ve gave all hardships to adults but you chose random children to grow up with cancer? To grow up with aids? To live in places that have insects and animals constantly trying to kill them? Or places that haven’t stopped seeing a bomb in their entire life? You claim to help those who pray and worship you yet still turn your back on countless people but give your help to those who can spread your name. And who even down there is getting it right? You have countless followers that believe different things, who’s right? Do I have the freedom of choice because of Eve? Or is my entire life predestined? If it’s predestined then you PURPOSELY put people into a place of never ever getting into heaven. Your followers have caused chaos and destruction in your name and all you do is sit back and watch. I wanted to believe in you, your religion sounded awesome to me as a child, be kind to everyone just go to church and be happy love your neighbor, but all I see from most of your followers is the exact opposite and they invoke your name for it. You abandoned us long ago, so I’ll gladly sit in the deepest depths of hell as long as it means I’m far away from you. Plus Lucifer doesn’t sound like a bad guy, just some dude who asked a pretty good question.

  • @LetusReason101
    @LetusReason101 27 дней назад

    💚💚

  • @luvyatubers
    @luvyatubers Месяц назад

    I have a condition or disorder called MCS which is invisible. I'm not normal but I think not having any reactions to toxins is not normal. I saw the tornado interview and hoped I'd see much more of her, making rounds on TV. This is the first x seeing her since then. Good to know she is doing well

  • @fadetoexadam182
    @fadetoexadam182 Месяц назад

    Thanks Jonathan, loved the way you expressed so much in this interview. Best wishes with moving ahead. Adam

  • @DoorknobHead
    @DoorknobHead Месяц назад

    Dr. Ben was a .... was a .... was a ..... THESPIAN!!!! I had no idea. The More You Know . . . (rainbow)

  • @ExvangelicalJess
    @ExvangelicalJess Месяц назад

    Don’t forget the Q also can stand for Questioning! I’m the L/T.

  • @BBETK
    @BBETK Месяц назад

    Thank you for interesting ideas. Sometimes I hear my inner critic say right things but sadly I dont pay attention to this voice, its too qiet and weak, and nonsense drags me away....

  • @jskeyboardwarrior-pe9kn
    @jskeyboardwarrior-pe9kn Месяц назад

    Write your congress and demand investigation's into scientology the child trafficing cult TODAY

  • @jezuswizardspatula5804
    @jezuswizardspatula5804 Месяц назад

    Holey minded Socalled Skeptics, Hole so big, falls out there backside. Glad you're the real kind

  • @jezuswizardspatula5804
    @jezuswizardspatula5804 Месяц назад

    Preyz Gord and holey Script-Yourz

  • @colin_mockery
    @colin_mockery Месяц назад

    Love any extra opportunity to hear Ross and/or Carrie speak. Thanks for this! :)

  • @lotuspoints
    @lotuspoints Месяц назад

    It s amazing to see how many of them were walking around the big blue at the time. They are mostly underground these days bcos of the protesters🎉

  • @AlshareefAbdelrahhim
    @AlshareefAbdelrahhim Месяц назад

    Ex Muslim here, most of people they don't feel the anger of discovering the pain of wasting your life defending the nonsense of religion, am frustrated😭

  • @ourmobilehomemakeover662
    @ourmobilehomemakeover662 Месяц назад

    What a fantastic panel discussion!

  • @FredGinger-d6e
    @FredGinger-d6e Месяц назад

    OMG! There it is at 21:57........the religion teaches you to lie! I have been saying that since I walked away at 16, over 45 years ago. You have no say when you are born into a religious cult. I just remember seeing the hypocrisy at a young age of what was "preached" in the sermons and what I observed with my own eyes. I used to get in trouble for asking why or how come. I learned to stop asking and to just parrot back what they wanted to hear. I turned 16, got a job at Denny's, bought a $150 Ford Pinto that ran, and got the hell out! Unfortunately, being steeped in the cult during the formative years had an affect on the wiring in my brain. Something I am aware of when I fight the inner policing-voice that questions my right to have this great life I worked for and created. Thanks for a great video!

  • @jonathanyeong324
    @jonathanyeong324 Месяц назад

    I discovered Christianity was a big scam at the age of 31 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @dsbdsb6637
    @dsbdsb6637 Месяц назад

    What author is missing is the ability to approach same topic using diff. frameworks thus thinking they all have same / similar problems like Judeo-Abrahamics & ofcourse that is the case since the questioning depends upon presuppositions one has. As modernity & it's institutions like academia presuppossed Judeo-Abrahamic theology as universal thus universalizing Judeo-Abrahamic issues to non-Abrahamic cultures lead to blind spots, Eurocentrism & so many other issues..... One of the most prominent example of this is Buddhist studies. Historically Buddhists institutions never questioned if Buddha existed or not but it became a central point of enquiry after colonial contact, now consider why is that the case ?

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings Месяц назад

    I'm a life long atheist, I dabbled in some bhuddist philosophy when i was a teen but never got into the mystical stuff. However, I did always assume that there was some truth behind all the myth until I saw a 3 part documentary based on the "Bible Unearthed" book by Israel Finkelstein, the fact that those guys set out looking to prove the basic history of the torah and then concluding that it's all nonsense just blew my mind. After that I came to the conclusion that it's turtles all the way down, including Jesus, Muhammed et al. It's been nice to have the tools and arguments that I've picked up from David and Dr Carrier to bolster my position. I also think the idea of monotheism is a bit of a misnomer. Monotheism is just polytheism but we only call onr being "god" and the rest angels etc. Its no different structurally. If the Greek gods had been the ones to survive, we would have Zeus and his angels instead of Yahweh, thats it. You can even draw parallels between the greek/roman gods and Yahwehs angels. Metatron, the voice of god, is Mercury/Hermes, for instance.

    • @pathfinder1273
      @pathfinder1273 3 дня назад

      You came to that conclusion from reading one book. Impressive research credentials. Or is it just confirmation bias?

  • @JillJelfs
    @JillJelfs Месяц назад

    Wonderful interview! I so identify with everything you said Jonathan Weĺ done! Best wishes for your future.

  • @LetusReason101
    @LetusReason101 Месяц назад

    OMG, I am the biggest fan of Shelly 🖖🏽🖖🏽🖖🏽

  • @rajanogray9088
    @rajanogray9088 Месяц назад

    75 snakes!! Clearly you don't have a problem with rodents.

  • @jwn0be
    @jwn0be Месяц назад

    Under the basilisk's spell

  • @thisguy2917
    @thisguy2917 Месяц назад

    Excellent interview

  • @ourmobilehomemakeover662
    @ourmobilehomemakeover662 Месяц назад

    Great overview of what RFR does! It’s not mentioned here, but it’s worth saying that they don’t “evangelize atheism” or try to deconvert those who contact them. Rather their goal is to support people in coming to their own conclusions They will even help you find another church that more closely aligns with your beliefs!

  • @M.Linoge
    @M.Linoge 2 месяца назад

    It doesn't surprise me that Aron first exotic pet would have grown to be an 8 feet, 100 pounds, venomous, man-eating lizard. I can see him going for a walk with it on a leash. The Christian ladies with their purse-poodles grabbing their snack-size pets and running... :p

  • @patrickalilbitofeverything5181
    @patrickalilbitofeverything5181 2 месяца назад

    Aron is my boy I got on to him because of snakes and I love his lectures and the information he provides

  • @ShoNuffSoulBro1
    @ShoNuffSoulBro1 2 месяца назад

    Greetings from SoCaL 👋😀 This was one of the best ex-JW interviews ever. Jonathan is very contemplative, interesting and intelligent. It’s so true what he brought out about JWs believing in different versions of God. Even the bible portrays God having different personalities. It’s all so disconcerting isn’t it.

  • @darrelray4673
    @darrelray4673 2 месяца назад

    One question I did not hear was, is there a database of recommended lawyers who have experience in this area or who have proven success in representing victims?

  • @darrelray4673
    @darrelray4673 2 месяца назад

    What an amazing interview. Thank you so much Christie for sharing your story and for your perseverance. As Sherrie pointed out, the techniques used by the Catholic Church are the same for JW, Mormons, Islam, and all other major religions. Chrissie's work and perseverance has certainly impacted people around the globe through the Royal Commission.

  • @the_luggage
    @the_luggage 2 месяца назад

    Love Ross & Carrie's podcast! If they did that Scientology thing nowadays, they'd make it 32 episodes, not just two 😅 I think my favourite episode might be one with Roger Nygard - that's a great place to start anyway 🙂

  • @brokebishboutique79
    @brokebishboutique79 2 месяца назад

    Great vid. I come from parents who were mormon then js then hippie ill check whatever church this is. There has been trauma from all of it. Some more than others. My family is very much a part of my life but I struggle with their religious views and I feel that it is harmful to me. I'm at a loss.

  • @kerrydwyer1879
    @kerrydwyer1879 2 месяца назад

    The Bible says humans will beome rarer than the gold of Ophir.. .

  • @kerrydwyer1879
    @kerrydwyer1879 2 месяца назад

    Hi from Sydney. Thank you for being candid.Look forward to more.All take care.

  • @soakbear
    @soakbear 2 месяца назад

    he is an idiot. what a waste of time.

  • @delphinawhiles6235
    @delphinawhiles6235 2 месяца назад

    Dear Johnsthon, U r an amazing young man. Only another jw raised in the religion could fully 100% understand u. Yes sometimes people of other faiths that leave say they get the similarities which r there. True. But only a jw or ex jw fully gets it. Wecspeak the same language. Im also female, but still feel your genuiness n truth. So much of u is me, but u woke u far, far earliest than me. From the beginning when u talked u captivated me from beginning to end. Im so glad u finally found a beautiful wife. But from the beginning i knew there was a big chance your beautiful family u walked about fondly would disown u. I hoped so much, your not disfellowshipped (now called removed.....new lightva few week's ago with psnts, no ties, beards n no reporting. U look about my sons age n atm no children (u never mentioned having kids). Sadly my husband is still a witness, so my offer to u, u may decide, no thank u. He has a boy about your age, 2 young kids, a girl 9 n a boy 5. They live close by. U said u have a close nit grp of friends. I can never replace your mum or father n i would never try. My mother died when i was 10 n my dad remarried. Shevwas his wife; never our mother. I have siblings. But if u need a substitute mother now or in the future i would be more than willing to be that for u n a substitute nanna if children come along later. Always in hope that your biological parents have a change in heart in the future. I sincerely believe that ubdont realize it yet but your honest true story is going to help soooo many young people. Its going to give them the courage to say im not going crazy (the religion can literally put u into bipolar) or some other depression to mental condition. N this happened to u when u started cutting yourself. Others go further n commit suicide. Me it was bipolar, but im perfectly fine now n extremely calm n happy. Waking sat n having the day to ourselves; ex jws relate to that. If my husband ever leaves ive told him we r opening our house to helping ones (esp young n loose everyone) getbon their feet. Ive heard of others doing this in america. But sadly hes still in. Our past creates who we r now n everythingvwe go through in life can make usca better kinder more compassionate person. When i was fully in as a faithful goody, goody jw my son came home one day n ill never forget what he said. Mum, im a good person, good husband, good father (he adores his children n does much for them n with them). We could never ask forba better boy who turned into a beautiful father. His daughter 9 has qualified for state running. He goes running with her to help her. His 5yr old son has decided to join the action. Hes no exception. Many parents out therevr doing greatvjobs withbtheir kids n they aint jws. But those talks in the kh re the birds of heaven eating their freshly parts after they r destroyed attacking at armageddon i believe made me mentally ill on 2 different occasions. ............ I visualised our son n grankids n my beautiful neighbour being destroyed bc they ain't jw. Why save me, im no better than them id think to myself. Jw teachingnis jah draws u. My mother studied with them, not me. But your a child n this is all u know n for stupid me, i tried to indrocrinate same into our child. Getting back to what my son said that day he came home. Mum if im not good enough for God, then he doesnt deserve me". I still stayed a fading jw for a few more yrs but i never forgot that. Another time he came home n tears in his eye's, he said mum had i been babtized would u have disowned me. This was b4 kids. I said never. He said mum your not a jw then. The rules r to cut me out of your life, like im dead. I repeated never. If i had to choose btw u n the religion id choose u. Nothing will separate u from me n noone will tell me i cant associate with u. He left. But its not until i fully left myself that i can see the damage that i did to his brain trying to indrocrinate something was indrocrinated into me. My pimo friend msged me yesterday n saidbpls give me your opinion, i feel its time to come clean with my grown kids. Hes done his researchbon finances etc......nursing homes.....all the big stuff.....much more than our history. We r close friends n both left at the same time. I answered yes, if itvwas me id have to do my bestvto save my son n his children. But Now ive changed my mind. Im going to send this to him n say try n getvthem to listen to this. Start here, this man is same age as your sons. Don't start with Russel n Ruderford. Let them, one a ms, other young elder. Its hard the indrocrination is these podcasts r evil disgruntled people who leave n spread lies. U cant make them listen to it. But u can dam try your hardest while u have breath to get them out n my gut tells me your truth n honesty just may work. Im also going to try n get my husband to listen to this. Your voice is calming n hed be stupid to think this iscall made up. A witness knows witness language n hes pioneered b4. But if he doesnt its his choice. We all make our own bed n have to lay in it. Thank u again. The best real life n most intriging real life story ive listened to. Wasnt till the very end i had tears in my eyes bc all u hope for is a change in gb policy thatvallows your parents the permission to associate with u. Its like beards. All of a sudden mummy n daddy havecsaid yes u may grow a beard now. Yes sis so n so u my now wesr pants. But Not on the platform (i presume bc u look like a man n only men teach???? Is that why???? N not to Bethel????? But yes doing door to door or standing idlevat carts gasbaging to ea other. I passed carts a few wks ago. 3 young sisters sitting on a bench next to the carts ON THEIR mobile phones. I observed,took a good look n honestly thought if i had not been a jw, would i have put them n the carts being associated 2gether. My honest conclusion was NO. i took a pic to prove to my husband what bi saw was real. He said its ok i believe u. I said, more than likely pioneers n they r counting this time on their report's. I told my elder bro inlaw bc they belonged to his cong (he laughed it off). Had he asked me for the pic so he could talk to them i would have said no. But he was amused n thought it funny. When i 1st saw his beard, i honestly didnt mean to be rude but i burst out laughing n said u look like father christmas. On hols all my married life hed grown a beard. Shaved it for meetings. As soon as the gb changes policy .......beards galore. Grown men being given permission......its like they r in kindergarden.

  • @shadowcult464
    @shadowcult464 2 месяца назад

    I have not watched the video but i am sure Aron will again give tacet support to bigots.