5 Backpacking Tips only stupid people don't know
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Took a bad fall a few years ago. Heavy, clunky boots saved me from a broken ankle. Trail runner vs boot debat is simple to resolve. Wear what you're comfortable with, and ignore detractors. Other tips good.
How can you be so sure? I recently fell in my trail runners, and I was thankful to have my ankles free to flex and roll out of the fall without injury. In a boot they would have been trapped
It can really go either way and can be dependent on the person. My wife has bad ankles so she uses boots. I use trail runners.
@@joel.ha.that doesn’t make sense at all. How would rolling your ankle be supported prevent an injury
@@michaelmcboomboom7473 it does though. There's no room for movement when they're trapped in boots. You need clearance
@@joel.ha.there’s also no support for your ankles whatsoever, never had an injury because of too much protection before only when not enough
"Big heavy boots aren't your friend" Hard disagree. Anyone who has had an ankle injury in the past knows the importance of ankle support even 20 years after the injury.
Or try hiking in Texas and accidentally kicking one of those huge rocks sticking 6" up out of the middle of the trail. There's a reason I break in next year's steel toe work boots on the trails.
Yeah, I'm not about to walk along crags with frickin trainers
Ankle support aka a shoe that cover your ankle. Yes much for the support
There must be lightweight boots with ankle support out there
@@2fortsmostwanted there are tons of them. My gf's boots weigh less than my trail runners.
Did I just get called stupid for preferring boots?
Possibly. I thought hiking boots 🥾 would be the preferred choice. Some are lightweight. Running shoes seem like they would get your foot punctured more easily?
@@Mustang-bk4ns only if you buy cheap shitty trail runners.... get some quality gear and your body will thank you long term. I too fell for the hiking boot myth for years. It's not the answer
Right? Maybe this dude is too weak hearted to wear a pair of boots. Ive worn both, boots are superior for me. Idk if he realizes there are physiological differences between human being.
@@jakek09 He's speaking from a position of 3 season, North American thru-hiking. He's walked 1000s of miles in trail runners and they serve him well for his purpose. Also his videos are designed to "poke the bear" so to speak ;)
Wore tactical boots for years at work , so I am used to wearing them . I seriously doubt they will affect me on hikes , but I do have trail runners , too ,
Yeah I'll use my boots and not destroy my feet in those flimsy trainers.
You have it backwards. Buy high quality trainers, not flimsy ones. Your feet need flexibility to be as close to the natural movement (barefoot) as possible. In a boot you get too comfortable doing the wrong type of stepping. Bad for your entire body long term.
@@joel.ha. is also unnatural to carry 20 kg backpacks.
@@joel.ha.doesn't matter how sturdy the trainers are, my rucks are north of 35kg. I'm not doing Any% speedrun on broken ankles.
@@joel.ha.They make barefoot style boots.
@@ScienceROIn the army we use boots and carry 40+ kilos, boots ftw, harder to injure your ankles
Tbh people who wear trail runners cause RUclipsrs told them so are more likely to be the stupid ones. Trail runners are 1-2 season at best in the UK. Assess your conditions and act accordingly.
For real man. Wouldn’t like being in the Highlands of Scotland in winter whilst wearing trailrunners. The most stupid people are the ones not doing their own research and testing.
Yeah, I get the mathematics of hiking the AT eg 2200 miles x 2000 steps/mile and raising an extra pound of weight a foot high that many times, but if you're day hiking or backpacking for a couple days it might be a different argument.
Nah I wear these things year round. Just wear a good pair of merino wool socks in the winter and you’re good to go
@@TheJhtlag It's also the conditions; along the AT there are going to be rivers and streams that you HAVE to ford, and it makes more sense to have footwear that will dry quickly.
In the UK, most rivers will have a bridge or stepping stones where the public footpath crosses them, and crossings are usually marked on the map. The footpath itself, however, will often be wet and muddy: trail runners wouldn't actually have a chance to dry off, and would be more likely to come off in deep mud. Boots keep the water out, and when you probably don't have to deal with water that comes above your ankle, it makes more sense.
@@18Hongo hiking boots and trail runners don't dry at different speeds, wtf. The only difference in drying speeds is waterproof vs non-waterproof.
Tactical boots are lightweight, versatile, protect your feet
And usually Waterproof.
yes, i use Lowa Renegades and i love them
@@URsooomad8613 My trail running shoes are waterproof too, massive lugs, and high tops for ankle support. They instantly became my hiking shoes, totally by accident.
I use a magnum cobra 8.0, the difference is heaven and hell. I love these boots, and i can even drive in them (they let your ankles move front and back, but not side to side, lovely design).
Any recommendations on woman’s tactical boots?
Trail running shoes are not My friend. Neither are big heavy boots. After 23+ years of backpacking and through hiking and uncountable miles, well my ankles are not what they were. A light pair of desert combat boots give me good ankle support and they breathe. Shouldn't make blanket statements like this. Footwear is different for each individual. You go wreck your ankles and see what your opinion is at my age.
Can’t agree more. I’m a lot less seasoned as you are, but after having tried both hiking boots and trail runners, I found out boots provided a lot more stability and ankle support. Sure, I can’t go super fast in a pair of boots. But I am able to take every step knowing my boots are there to support and protect me. Besides, backpacking should never be about speed.
agreed, i use a light pair of composite toe combat boots and it has saved my ankles more times than i can count. definitely don’t have the same level of experience as you do but i can attest to combat boots.
Mine aren’t exactly light but I never leave the house without some decent military grade hiking boots. They’ve lasted me a good 4+ years and have great ankle support
Going off trail can be very demanding. Just wear the right shoe for what yore foot style demands.
if you are wearing trail running shoes. you are just walking through the woods on a well beaten path.
Maybe that's why Kyle hates hiking
Yeah, hiking in Scotland in winter, you need big heavy boots. You're going to be up to your knees in mud for days.
Mud? In the winter? Must be nice having such a warm mild winter 😅
This must be why Kyle hates hiking 😂
Boots are fine. It all depends upon where you are hiking. Some places boots are the thing to wear. If shoes don’t have enough torsional rigidity your feet get tired.
Yeah I need boots cause I have bad ankles. Had to stop using trail runners
You’ll appreciate good boots when you get to Rocksylvania! (PA) A firm sole will help protect your feet from feeling bruised. You can always send them home later on.
This is a perfect explanation of my experience with trail running shoes. While they allow lots of mobility, they do little to protect my feet from fatigue
@@DenaliOsnayathen train your ankles
Use coffee filters for removing silt and particulates.....and gravity and time. They don't weigh much.....and they pack extremely easy.
And reusable!
For what? Drinking water?
This is big brain
But a bandana is reusable. Coffee filters accumulate in the land fill. And the ONLY reason I stress this is cause I used to work for Starbucks.... I've seen how much coffee gets thrown into to landfill....... it's a lot! 😂😂😂
@@joel.ha. yes, to pre-filter as much of the muck out before processing it thru a safe water filter.
Trail runners are good for people who never go off trail. Don't worry about weight, it makes you stronger.
They make trail runners with rock plates for off trail stuff. Look up people Sierra High Route or Wind River High Route. All extremely off trail in challenging terrain, most people doing them are in trail runners.
You shouldn't go off trail to feel cool, people like you destroy the natural environment, disrupting thousands of species of flora and fauna.
You shouldn't be going of trail
@@the_ultra_robot6884 you shouldn't be leaving the city 😂
One of us! One of us! One of us!
I’ll stick to my big boots.
Same! I LOVE my chunky chonk boots! I don't care if they're heavier than my trail runners. I've gotten MORE blisters and sprained ankles and sprained knee ligaments with trail runners than I ever did with hiking shoes and boots. (Yes, I have all three!) I love the trail runners for light day stuff but not for anything strenuous or uphill. My boots save me and stabilize me! ❤ so much love!
I need to wear boots as I've had about 7 sprained ankles and need the ankle support:)
This. Boots saved my ankles thousand of times.
Imagine watching someone start a fire with fresh green branches
I’ve seen it. 😂 Weekend warriors came to a shelter near Gatlinburg on the AT, long story short, next morning I saw they tried burning live rhododendron branches.
Did anyone see what type of wood he was using? Ash and birch will burn with a bit of encouragement, but if he was trying to start a fire with green willow...
@@addisonfarr9062 not the rhodies 😢😮
Tell me your new without telling me your new
I prefer boots, protects your toes, ankle support and is waterproof
All of these can be achieved better by trail runners
@@the_ultra_robot6884
A 3" high shoe will never be waterproof in 4+ inches of mud or snow.
@@the_ultra_robot6884 mate you can't even walk through a field in trail runners . Even if they waterproof the second you step off the hard standing you sink deeper than ankle in the mud . In winter even hiking boots aren't sufficient you need proper parra boots or Wellingtons .
I will never give up my boots. I’m invincible with them. And I like to be strong enough to bear the burdens of life, not avoid them.
Fr. Boots make you feel indestructible especially s3 ones
SAAMME!!! my boots stabilize me! My VERY expensive trail runners gave me blisters and a sprained mcl 😢
I use trainers and boots depending on "where and how far".
My biggest argument for boots would not be support as much as dry feet at creek crossings lol.
Sure trail runners are great in mild terrain with nice weather but have fun trying to walk a rocky path in the snow or rain. A little extra weight is absolutely worth protecting your ankles. A sprain or break will likely end your trip and in the worst case your life
Hey, don't call me stupid.
Why no boots? I understand the weight thing and also for traversing water above ankle deep, but in the cold and to avoid rolling my ankle on longer hikes I’ve always preferred boots
Avoiding rolling my ankle is specifically why I prefer trail runners. You lack flexibility in boots. You stray farther from the natural barefoot movement your feet evolved on for 99% of human history. Shoes that get you comfortable with walking the unnatural way are going to cause you so much pain long term
@@joel.ha.You’d have to try to roll your ankle in a good pair of boots. Trail runners on the other hand, you could easily roll your ankle in those even when you are not carrying weight. It’s not one size fits all at the end of the day.
@@smellybearc7411 agree to disagree I guess. I've rolled my ankle hundreds of times in a non painful way, like I just roll out of it. Which wouldn't be possible in boots
if you want to loose your ankles, listen to this guy
“Loose”……the opposite of tight
😂😂😂
*lose
Anyone who hikes in the desert will know the importance of boots. Not only do they support your ankles as you walk over the rough, rocky terrain (which is very likely to cause you to stumble or roll your ankle), but they also protect you from snakes, scorpions, cacti, and the 10,000 other thorn-covered things in the desert. You aren't stupid for wearing boots instead of trail-runners. As with everything backpacking-related, do whatever suits your needs. Don't just blindly follow whatever people on RUclips tell you is the "right" way to do it.
The ankle support boots provide is actually negligible unless you're carrying considerable extra weight or punishing them. But other reasons mentioned are sound.
Stopped listening after the first comment . That is a very bad advice. A smart and experienced backpacker knows that the weight you are carrying, the terrain and weather decides what to choose. Or go to the gym and do some weight training and you are better prepared both mentally and physically and you can bring them both.
Trail Runners don't work for everybody... I have flat feet and was using Trail Runners(due to a high recomendation from my more experienced fellow hiking friends) when first getting into hiking . So Not having an arch due to flat feet makes your feet week at your ankles and it throws off your whole spine alignment from your feet up your legs to your neck . So I would tear up my feet, calfs knees quads really bad during hikes. And when Sports Authority and Sports Chalet had their going out of business sales, I bought some expensive high boots with a good discount and thought I'd give those a try. Hiking with boots really made a difference for me..
At 1st I could Never fully enjoy hiking due to the terrible pain my flat feet would inflict on my lower body, until I tried hiking with Boots. High and expensive(above $100) boots to be exact, which provide great Arch and ankle support which hold the rest of my legs up to my spine in alignment. It totally change the whole experience, I felt 100 times better. I could hike longer sections of the trail by day. And the terrible cramps and pain that the trail Runners were causing my legs were gone.
Of course I would still experience pain, depending on how many miles I hiked per day, as anybody would, but it's a lot less and I mean A LOT less pain compared to Trail runners pain, which almost made me quit hiking.
But now I'm a h€r0¡n @dd¡©t that hasn't hiked in a while I'm trying to get out of my self-destructive habit, and hoping I can get back in to it again. For it seems like that's the only thing that's going to save my life. True story
Flat footed people can still use flat shoes, the important thing is to learn to walk landing on the ball of your foot
You should definitely wear boots, and you shouldn't need tape though it may sometimes be necessary
Tape for hot spots, though?
Don't wear boots, they don't do a single thing better
@@the_ultra_robot6884ankle support?
@ThisIsArty if you need the "ankle support" that boots provide, you shouldn't be on trail, you should be in the gym
@the_ultra_robot6884 bitch the gym isn't gonna save me. three days ago i was on a mountain with half a meter of snow on a 70 degree incline hitting the gym isn't gonna help me when i slip and roll my ancle. boots did
This trail runners vs boots debate is old and tiring. It’s ridiculous.
Why not both? 😂❤ both is good! Tailor your gear to your needs, and swap out when the situation calls for it ❤
I like my boots thank you very much
Me to ❤ My boots stabilize me and make me feel comfortable and confident.
Boots are relative, all the other tips are fantastic. I have been wearing boots so long my muscles have developed different, and I'm like a flamingo in shoes now
Big heavy hiking books have made long hikes in the White Mountains far more enjoyable. I'll gladly take a few entra grams if it means my feet and ankles will feel amazing after a hike
I will always wear my backpacking boots on the trail.
SAME! I love my boots!!!
My solamans never let me down.
My solamans gave me blisters and a sprained mcl 😂😂
I swear by Glide for chaffing. It saved my through hike
A simple but often overlooked fact to note is that trail runners and boots are designed for different purposes.
boots are specifically designed to be worn for *walking* with additional load, to assist with stability, and be both durable and protective enough to handle rough terrain and horrid weather. Trail runners are designed for *running* with little to no weight, far more flexibility in the sole and less structure in the upper, generally offering a lot more unstable cushion to compensate for harder foot strikes on the mid-sole/front of foot from running compared to mid/heel strikes on boots.
I've played around with my trail runners for a while, testing them on long and short mountainous hikes in the UK and have to say the only time they come out on top is if im hiking with low-loads across nicer terrain in perfect weather. Other than that, i stick to using them for what they're designed for - trail running. The US definitely have far better maintained trails and better weather toboot, so im not surprised why they are so popular over there 😊
Fellow brit here . I just can't comprehend the idea of dry ground. I've never seen it.
I think foot wear is dependent on terrain and weather. However I did hear good argument against boots that has nothing to do with weight. You ankles are weak and need support because you wear boots. The small muscle around your ankle don't get the exercise it needs to get stronger.
The idea is to train your ankle doing more general stuff in shoes, and wear boots for more support on treacherous terrain.
Also no, my ankle is weak because of a congenital deformity. Turns out strong muscle and tendon does a shit job when the bone it's attached to is in the wrong place 😅
Barefoot boots are ideal but I'd always prefer a boot over a shoe. Especially if it gets wet
When is it ever not wet ?
@@avancalledrupert5130 that's what I'm saying
I actually ended up sewing up a little pre filter bag for my water filter and it works great, plus you can store the filter and pieces in it.
Trail runners are good if you are just walking on trails if you're going through the bushes off the track or do bushcrafting etc. Boots are your friend. Also boots last a lot longer than a pair of trail runners.
As someone who walkes countless miles in big heavy boots in the military, they save your ankles when you trip and roll your ankle and they can be way more waterproof.
Military boots and hiking boots are not the same thing. Ankle support from hiking boots is negligible unless you're carrying a lot of extra weight.
@@AJHart-eg1ysIdk why everyone talking about anckle support. It's waterproof part. What's the point in going to the countryside if you can't leave the hard standing without getting wet feet mate?
@@avancalledrupert5130 The issue with waterproof is that people often don't take into consideration the opposite consequences.
Even if you don't have to walk through a river, creek, etc. - which will allow water to enter your boots regardless - waterproofing also captures all the moisture inside the boot and doesn't allow it to escape (like all those "breathable" rain jackets we know are BS). If the insides of your boots are moist at the end of the day, they're almost certainly still going to be moist inside when you put them on the next morning.
Boots that are not waterproof will usually be dry the following day because they allow moisture to pass through.
It's like getting cheap winter gloves. They're fine for that first day. But lord knows how long you'll have to wait for the liner to dry out after that.
That's why a lot of people who log a lot of miles over several days generally don't get waterproof boots, and often even just get trail runners that are so ventilated that you can sometimes actually dry while you continue to hike in them.
After two sprains on the same ankle (not from hiking) I will definitely be opting for boots
I’m a big fan of big heavy boots while I’m hiking. The amount of times my friend has hurt his ankle on the trail because he wasn’t wearing good ankle support makes me a firm believer in my military grade hiking boots. They’ve got vents to prevent your foot from getting too sweaty, extremely hard toe ends to prevent anything from hurting your dogs (and help to provide you with a great defense mechanism in the form of a solid kick). True you can’t do much running in them but if you’re on harder trails you shouldn’t be running anyway you should be walking at a decent pace to conserve your strength for the entire trip so you can cover more ground. This guy here’s got some good tips, but some good boots aren’t always a bad idea
Great advice except for the boots. I'm impressed by the many other similar comments
Bandannas are a Powerful multitasking tool
Agree with everything BUT the tape. Just like the outdated heavy boots..DO NOT use any kind of tape on chafing, just bring a little plastic bag of petroleum jelly + triple antibiotic ointment. 2 AT thrus and 3 bike packing trips across the US it’s worked perfectly.
rolling downhill with a 30 pound pack happened to me when wearing trail shoes. Got some that cover my ankle and I was set
Nah man, hiking boots are where it's at. Dunno what mistakes you made to have such an opinion but they're super reliable/durable and way more suitable for the backpacking environment.
Idk I like my big heavy boots because I rather have stability grip and no water in them
The best choice for hiking/backpacking shoes are one’s
that feels good.
Pitch in and gather some water to put it out at the end of the night. Hikers be out here trying to burn down the whole damn forest.
Who doesn't know not to cut down a *green* tree for firewood? Seriously. Gather deadfall off of the forest floor. Green wood doesn't burn.
One thing we did when the water didn't look too fresh - boil the water first. We were in Norway, amazing places to hike, lots of trails and cabins. Higher water streams running down hill are crisp fresh, oh so good. Freshest water we've ever had!!
I guess it's different territory, we were high up in the mountains. We needed good walking boots. America sounds interesting for hiking.
My boots save my ankles lives on a daily basis 😂
This is a great example of why you should get outside and walk rather than watching RUclips videos.
I live and hike in a very mild climate so Altras trail running are my go-to for hiking. I appreciate the 0 drop so I can actually feel what I'm standing on which prevents twisted ankles. However, I've read a lot of great reviews for Lems hiking boots and do wear them when it's going to be wet or muddy. I will say I can't imagine wearing a thick, unbendable sole after so many years of 0 drop footwear. But I'm sure there are reasons people wear them or else combat boots wouldn't be so utilitarian.
i’d like to think of myself as an open minded person but i’m never gonna wear trailrunners hiking. boots are just too good
I live in a town in the Canadian Rockies where each year we have numerous helicopter rescues of fools who believe your advice on trail shoes. They might be OK on gentle trails like the PCT, but hazardous on scree, talus, or when carrying a large pack.
1. Hard disagree on the first one
2. The last tip is because you can’t really use wet firewood, and live trees have water in them
Maybe that's why Kyle hates hiking 😂
This has inspired me to make this my next big adventure either this winter or next! Thanks Liam!
Boot gang rise up!
Approach shoes for the win! Running and great grip, dry quickly, lightweight
Trail running shoes have soft outsoles comparable to hiking or trekking shoes. I dont want to feel the rocks or bend/twist my feet in a long trekking.
Maybe that's why Kyle hates hiking
I've been using sturdy leather boots for backpacking since i was little, dont be s snob trail runners arent that special. Boots are better for protection against most things as well as lasting longer
I just gotta disagree with the boots. I got a nice pair of leather hiking boots and they have saved my ankles more times than I can count. Also they offer way more support than regular shoes. For the casual hiker or trail runners, sure go for a nice pair of shoes. But if you plan on staying in the woods for more than a day at a time, I would say go for boots.
Ur wrong about the shoes u want good sturdy leather boots they gives your ankle support from twisting and even breakage. Plus some are waterproof and they can just take more abuse and keep your warmer and whatnot. Boots without a second though for sure.
thats why the most people who get rescued here in the Mountains were wearing Trail Running shoes ??
Boots are for serious hikers, trail runners are for instagramer photo ops that don't leave the short trail from the car park.
Yeah the right shoe depends on the person so much. I kept rolling my ankle every damn hike when I wore hiking boots. Finally gave up on them, got shoes with less sole and I stopped stumbling around. I just need to feel the ground under my feet or I will be going down.
Vasaline (ky jelly) can also be really useful against chaffing.
How about not playing audiobooks or music out loud without headphones.
Love my heavy boots life time of walking mountains for a living no way i could use shoes ive stepped on a lot of snakes you dont want shoes on in that situation full grain leather and tall no need in snake proof it will just burn you up full grain stops rattlers
A small jar of petroleum jelly is best for chaffing plus a bunch of other uses
Show me a pair of trail running shoes that can go through mud and puddles without any issues, i'll wait. When i wear my bulky, heavy leather boots i know that they'll keep me dry and comfortable when the going gets tough. In reasonable circumstances obviously, plus they look awesome 😎. Besides the shoe thing, these tips are great
I use hiking shoes from Keen. They aren't as high as boots and come in wide widths.
Footwear is subjective and based on an individuals needs. Use what works for you, and is appropriate to the location and season.
I’ll prefer tailing running shoes for lighter trails! I prefer my boots for more coverage and water resistance when crossing over water
I could have sworn Michael Scott narrated the start of this video
I use leukotape for chafing/blustering for backpacking an Wildland firefighting
Smart people dont waste their time hiking looking at trees and water all day
The first time I went camping I brought my only two shoes I own. My doc Martin platform boots, and a pair of flip flops. I went bare foot most of the time anyways so it didn’t end up mattering lol
K tape comes off because your skin isn’t clean and dry when you apply it. Do that and it will last longer as it is designed to remain on if you sweat
I think you should be a bit more gentler on boots mate, in New Zealand boots are a must due to the terrain and the conditions
Yer, non waterproof trainers with no protection that last about five minutes on the trails are sooo much better than waterproof hiking boots? 🤔🤣 Come to wet and muddy Britain...
What's a good water filter to drink while solo camping idk what to buy I wanna buy those simple tents those small one that looks like a triangle covers u both sides and a small opening I'm planning to go deep in north California I need a big backpack some gear a bag full of protein bars etc
Hey Kyle!
Thank you for your video!
Maybe you want to try out the Kathadyn hiker pro water filter in your upcoming video!
We where hiking for three month in south east Asian and never had a problem with tab water! Also we drank out of a river with it and it was almost like the springs in Germany.
Almost… the “no bad taste slogan” is a lie!
It was bad tasting but we didn’t had much of a trouble with it!
Hope you can cover this in a upcoming video!
Would love to see a expert review on this stuff ❤
Hey Kyle, any comment on xero shoes for hiking? I am hiking PCT thru Oregon this summer, about 450 miles.
I understand trail runner shoes will be more comfortable but my fear of snakes forces me to wear boots
you should go up to black Canyon lake it's fun, trust me, it's hell of a scene
I went hiking today. I saw two separate abandoned eyelash curlers. Wtf?
For f**** sake, do your own research and decide for yourself on footwear. This is one of the only things that is going to be 100% specific to you. Start on smaller trails/camp trips WITH your packs and find out what works for you.
…uh those trainers would destroy my feet mate. Way too flimsy.
Fire?
“1 backpacking tip only stupid people don’t know: don’t build a fire”
Trail running shoes betrayed me when I stepped on jungle thorn, take note that I live in Tropical Forest climate, so yeah Military Boot is my friends for decade
Boots technically destroy your back but its better than huring a ankle. Also boots have way better grip than any shoe will
😊👍❤️😂 the only video I have thought was honest about the subject
Überlube helps with chafing
As comfortable as the trail runners are, my weak ass ankles could never last without support
Nah, boots over trail shoes
boots are literally fine
Trail runners are your friend if you don’t plan on doing anything off trail and don’t remind replacing them every few months because they’re not durable at all
Hiking in trail running shoes will not end well. Did a trip with buddies, going to hike ~ 50 miles in the Shenandoahs, but after the third ankle injury we decided enough was enough.