There's a fan theory that states that the riddler actually refuses to believe it's Bruce Wayne, as he refuses to be wrong since he's a ego maniac, and he ruled it out a long time ago, most likely during the events of origins, I have no source and no evidence to back this up, this is coming straight from my memory, but if I find a source or any evidence to back this up I'll come back to this comment and add it.
@@connerthehonker9786i think you are referring to the idea that the Riddler always suspected Bruce Wayne the most for being Batman because it made the most sense to him, but his pride wouldn't let him think a snobby rich boy could outsmart his plans and riddles. And there is a line like that in this game by the Riddler where at the end of the game where Batman's identity becomes public Riddler still refuses to believe it.
@@connerthehonker9786 In the Hush comic, Riddler figures it out after he exits a Lazarus Pit but Batman gives him 2 reasons why he will never anyone. One, a riddle that everyone knows the answer to is worthless and two, Batman will tell Ra's where to find Riddler since he stole one of his pits.
@@connerthehonker9786That's not a fan theory - He just straight up says that in suicide squad kill the justice league, and King Shark called him a Bructher or something
Part of me wants to think that Alfred says that because Bruce Wayne acts like a jackass but techically hasn't done anything that would make someone think he is anything but a good person.
Bruce Wayne relies almost solely on a fake personality as a defense. He acts like a careless playboy who only cares about himself, to make it seem totally implausible that he's a ninja crime fighter. It'd be like a younger, in shape Donald Trump secretly being Batman.
More likely, while he and his buddies are sitting in the cells at the GCPD, watching the Scarecrow's broadcast, they all slow turn towards him and see his equally stunned expression. What happens beyond that point would be anybody's guess.
@@Boskov01"Congratulations, you are now a super villain, and your super villain name is 'Jinx'. Got any other predictions?" -A sarcastic buddy of theirs. "Haha funny, sure, Superman is Clark Kent. Ain't no way that's a thing. If it is, well then my name is in fact Jinx." -Jinx
In the actual real life his secret identity wouldnt last a month :D Satellit photos, tracking devices, AI face recognition on his chin... man, how stupid are the people in the DC world :D
To be fair, they were just discussing who was bankrolling Batman, not who Batman actually was. It’s easy to guess that Wayne Enterprises was funding the bat. But everyone would think that he was ex-spec ops that Bruce hired to do the deeds.
@@coltonwilliams4153 yeah, i mean given bruce's playboy act, there's no real reason to assume it's him. the guys family died here, he left town for years, and now spends most of his days partying with models in a faux drunken stupor and thinking up new ways to break his leg "Skiing", from most people's judgment he has no loyalty to gotham, no higher ethics and no personal motivation/willpower. they'd likely assume he either doesn't know and it's being funded by someone on the board of directors etc., or they'd assume this was bruce's pet project, he got a wild hair up his butt and decided to bankroll an urban legend. even if they put two and two together about his motive for being batman stemming from his parents' murders, they'd likely assume that is his motive for PAYING batman, not that bruce IS batman. also, in the comics, they had the batman inc. story arc, where bruce literally admitted to bankrolling the batman for years as a limited test run, and then starts recruiting batmen to hold down other cities globally. he doesn't admit to being batman, but basically admits that the bat-family are effectively an official Wayne Enterprises funded private mercenary group.
@@gourdguru I have heard that there have been one or two stories where Bruce has stated that he served as a financial backer of sorts to Batman. I wasn't sure if that was true but thank you for confirming it. I do appreciate that you point out why people would not automatically assume that Bruce was Batman. I think it is sometimes overlooked how much that persona plays a part in people's perceptions of him. Since they assume that the billionaire playboy is all that there is to see, they don't bother to look deeper. We see in this series alone people such as Penguin, Two-Face, and Hush who dismiss him as just being a spoiled rich boy despite his personal tragedy for one reason or another.
tired of people saying "batman doesnt kill." Pick up a comic. Batman used to carry guns and murdered all the time. Its only because of the Nolan films that casuals like you spout that "batman doesnt kill" BS.
@@AzguardMikeDude, chill out. Batman has different versions. Certain versions kill, certain versions don't. So the original comment isn't wrong. This version of Batman doesn't kill.
You kill someone for that and all it does is draw attention to that one Thug. The last thing Bats would want is people thinking that he knew something he shouldn't.
He's not wrong. It only takes a little common sense and research to determine Batman's identity, in spite of all the measures Bruce has taken to hide it. I mean, think about it. Whoever Batman could be, he likely lives in Gotham since that's where he mostly operates. He has to be in decent physical condition in order to spend his nights running around punching bad guys, and he needs to have plenty of cash to pay for all of his equipment. Finally, who else has the motivation to even do something as absurd as dressing up as a flying mouse and thrashing crooks while also fitting all the prior criteria? It's not rocket science.
@@masedaace5473 Also, think about this. After Bruce's parents died, he left Gotham for nearly a decade. He comes back, noticeably different than when he left, and Batman shows up not too long after. Add that on top of the fact that when the Bat-Signal is on, he suddenly has to drop whatever he's doing because "something's come up". This is something that happens on a suspiciously regular basis, and everyone thinks it's just a coincidence.
@@masedaace5473 my favorite example of batman accounting for this scrutiny is jason todd. in the original continuity jason todd is a redhead, and bruce recruits him shortly after dick leaves. bruce recruits todd, a street kid about the right age with anger issues who tries to steel the hubcaps off the batmobile, on short notice, and then makes him use temporary hair dye to dye his hair black when in the robin suit to look more like dick. it's never spelled out directly, but it's heavily implied that bruce hadn't planned for dick to leave suddenly on bad terms, and needed a replacement robin so that both their identities would be protected when Dick left. it would be pretty obvious if the same week that bruce wayne's ward leaves town, robin goes MIA. likewise, if suddenly bruce wayne has a new redhead ward, and now robin is suddenly a ginger kid, that's also a problem for both batman and nightwing. so batman brought on jason because he thought he could help the kid and he also needed a robin body double(no one besides gordon, the league, and a few rogues like joker have interacted with robin enough to notice the difference), and jason's natural hair color was now a convenient piece of plausible deniability, shifting attention away from Bruce. if bruce wayne is batman then that means that teenager he's got living with him has to be robin, but when the old ward left robin was still around, and the new kid is a redhead so he isn't robin, therefore batman can't be bruce wayne.
Would have been funny if after the reveal you could find those thugs again and they have a conversation like: Thug A: I knew it! Thug B: How long are you gonna keep saying that? Thug A: Until you admit I was right.
I’m surprised no one in Arkham City (Hugo Strange doesn’t count) has figured out Bruce is Batman with how easily he beat up Penguin and his thugs, plus how suddenly he “disappears” and Batman immediately appears INSIDE Arkham City.
@@TieflingKumasi True, considering Bruce has all the resources, they’d even guess that HE’S the one FUNDING Batman’s operation. No one would ever think Bruce himself is Batman.
Clark who? Clark Kent? The unassuming reporter? Nah. He could never be superman. Hes a coward; always runs away just before superman shows up. And he wears glasses.
@@shriharihudliThe funniest part is that it works so well because he uses such a dumb disguise, like think about it, would you think that your akward nerd coworker would be superman? the fact that he seems so similar to him wouyld just make you go "nah, that would be too stupid and obvious lol there isnt no way thats him"
Apparently in one of the comics, its revealed bruce spends his downtime going on conspiracy forms and spouts crazy conspiracy theories on various things, one of which is bruce wayne being batman but does it specifically so that when people think of bruce wayne being batman theories they think of stuff like aliens building the pyramids and stone hedge being a portal to hell and think its a joke rather than real.
I remember hearing one voiceline from a thug in a car asking if the person driving could stop by the toy store so he could get a toy for his kid that he promised he would get@@Venomsmex
In this continuity, Hush must be feeling like a right twit. Thanks to his work in Arkham City, everyone assumed that Bruce Wayne was the Identity Thief. At least for a time. Instead of destroying Bruce Wayne's reputation, all Hush did was keep Batman's identity even more secret 😂 Otherwise people would have asked questions about how Wayne went into Arkham City and came out physically unscathed.
Your theory is good but a bit flawed. Don't forget that they had no idea that Hush was even in Arkham City. Countless people were put in there. And it doesn't mention how Hush got out of Arkham City. We don't see him again until he struts into Wayne Tower as Bruce in Arkham Knight. Further, the unscathed part is flawed as Hush's "mask" was literally stitched together. If anyone asked why he could just point to the fact that Wayne had been thrown into Arkham City and people would think its the result of him getting beat up a lot on the inside. The cover was almost perfect. But where Hush went between City and Knight is unknown. A lot of time had passed between those points. Several months to a year or two. Finally, nobody knew who the identity thief was save for Batman.
@@Boskov01 All very fair points. You are right, Hush's face mask was literally stitched together. But my point was that if Hush hadn't been in Arkham City, people would have wondered how the real Bruce Wayne wasn't injured during his time in the place. Instead, because Hush wanted to destroy Bruce Wayne, he impersonated him, leading anyone who saw him to believe (within Arkham City) that Bruce Wayne had gone off his head and become a serial killer. Nobody knew Hush was there. But everyone knew Bruce Wayne was. If Hush hadn't been in the equation, it would have been different. That's my point 🙂
@@solitarysurreal3652 Except aside from the word of a few goons, nobody save Batman knew Hush/Wayne was the Identity Thief. There was nothing to really connect the two, and any evidence that did exist could be dismissed as circumstantial. Sure, Hush kinda gives Bruce/Batman an alibi for several occasions but no hard evidence from the public standpoint could tie Wayne to the Identity Thief murders.
@@solitarysurreal3652 keep in mind that not everyone was a criminal when they was enter arkham city remember political prisoners who put there for questioning hugo strange and mayor sharp ideas of the prison hence was forced to work with actual criminal.
Batman: "Alfred, I have to kill this thug." Alfred:"Batman doesn't kill sir!" Batman: "Thanks Alfred, you are right Batman doesn't kill" Batman changes into Bruce Wayne outfit, shoots thug, changes back into bat gear.
Let’s not forget that the Riddler also said he cracked who Batman was years and years back but he always thought it was a trick. So riddler knew the whole time
“Come on, man. 50 bucks, pay up.” “Come on, it’s not like you guessed it was Wayne.” “Well, you’re the one who put money on him for being an alien refugee from a dying planet.” “Huh. I could’ve sworn I’ve heard that before.”
Nobody in the Gotham even thinking of where does Batman get his gadget from. Think about it, There are so many rich people in Gotham like Bruce Wayne, Oswald Cobblepot, Harvey Dent, even Joker can consider be rich as he has a lot of money from his crime activities and has a lot of thugs. Cobblepot / Penguin is mostly selling weapons and drugs, Harvey Dent / Two Face is a succesful district attorney. Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne has everything from the technologies, cars and a lot of shareholders.
It wouldn’t make any sense for Batman to be allegedly supplied by Cobblepot or Dent - why would they make custom, bat-themed equipment for a vigilante that has thwarted their gang operations for decades?
To be fair, there really is a lot of wealthy people in Gotham, and if I remember correctly, Bruce isn't even the wealthiest of them, that would be the members of the court of owls, who got their own protection.
In the game Arkham Asylum, one of the patient interview tapes for The Riddler, Riddler asks one of the doctors where Batman gets his car and his gadgets. He then answers his own question with the answer "with the money stolen from the criminals he defeats".
The way the music kicks up as he says it, makes you imagine Batman stopping what he’s doing, slowly turning around, and then we cut to the thugs being absolutely demolished.
That’s why Batmans hidden identity is so good even when you think it’s Bruce that’s sound like a joke Even riddler didn’t believe Batman is Bruce Wayne
I'm pretty sure the next thing this thug was asked was "what are the winning lotto numbers?", the man did what Riddler couldn't do. After several years of trying various methods he still can't figure it out and some random guy on the street with a few minutes to think about it managed to figure it out.
@@Esuerc Hugo probably spent a lot of money on medical school and then months or possibly years of research to determine the identity of Batman. Then some random thug who probably dropped out of high school gets it in under five minutes.
I think it’s in all-star Batman, where it opens with someone saying “I think Bruce Wayne is Batman”. And his friend basically goes “yeah idiot, we all know by now, but good luck proving it in court with his legal team”.
The one guy in town who doesn't have a family or any responsibilities but yet has billion dollars in the bank, and is barely seen by the public. It makes sense.
Yeah. You'd think if nothing else people would realize that Batman's gear is extremely expensive and cutting edge tech, and Bruce Wayne is pretty much the only person in Gotham rich enough to afford all of that who isn't already a supervillian. They may not make the jump that Bruce Wayne is Batman, but he could very well be funding Batman.
Bruce Wayne may be very good at business, good at schmoozing other rich people, and with a heart of gold, but he's also kind of a rich twit. No offense to the guy who creates a metric fuckton of honest jobs in Gotham and even empties the prison by offering inmates vocational training and work-release programs, with a lot of his most talented and loyal employees being former cons and who outspends all of his rich friends put together in charity donations, but the guy's actually kind of hopeless in everyday life. The guy can't for the life of him understand the very concept of a "manual transmission shaft", it took his chauffeur explaining to him that not all cars have an automatic gear box for it to get it... Look, I love the guy for actually giving honest work to my cousin who quit drugs, got out of prison and got our family out of poverty thanks to Bruce Wayne's outreach efforts, but it's obvious to anyone who actually met the guy even once that Bruce Wayne's kind of a two-tricks pony, who cruises through life from a combination of old money, charisma and being very good with the money he inherited. Guy may be disconnected from the realities of life for us common folks, but bless his heart of gold for taking his wealth and making the world a better place for us common folks while still making fucktons more money for himself. Seriously, you think *THAT* guy is the streetwise vigilante known as "Batman"? I mean, I'd be willing to believe Brucie bankrolls Batman, especially since he's got the motives to want to clean out Gotham, but actually be Batman? Nah, he's too much of a clueless dolt for that! I'd love to chat more on the topic, but breaktime's almost over for me and I gotta get back to work at the steel mill along with my cousin. It's got cutting edge safety measures on the machines and workplace safety training so good so that accidents are so rare that Bruce Wayne never pays out workers compensation for injuries since they basically never happen, so least I can do is work hard for my paycheck. Take care and stay safe out there!
To be fair most Superheroes secret identities are kind of obviously. The only one that is the best is Daredevil. No one would think the blind, must follow the law, super dedicated Catholic lawyer would be the super combat skilled, brutal vigilante dress as the devil.
"Maybe it's Matt Murdock..." "Dude, that's stupid! He's blind!" "Are you sure about that though? Are you able to see through his eyes?" "Oh yeah.... Maybe he's faking his blindness to cover himself!"
@@Dante02d12 "But dude he has hospital and doctor records proving he is blind. Plus there records of him being blind since 9 years old. You think a 9 year old has been able to fool doctors and pretend to be blind for 2 decades."
@@theinsurance2450I don't think random goons would know that, lol. (That said I'm not sure if random goons would know Murdock anyway, I don't know how famous he is in the Marvel world.)
@@Dante02d12 He a famous lawyer in Hell's Kitchen in New York. He help defend a lot of ex criminals in the city. Word would have spread throughout street who he is. Also he defend other Superheroes in court which definitely would made him somewhat famous. He even was in a local story about the 9 year old orphan who not only just got blind but lost his famous local boxer Dad.
they don't need to guess. In Arkham Origins, Bane called him "Mister Wayne" in front of everyone in Blackgate prison. And in Arkham City, Hugo Strange called him "Wayne" over the PA several times.
Strange is the only one who made sense. Riddler is a fucking idiot if he couldn't figure out Bruce is Batman. In retrospect it makes total sense there really aren't that many possible options as to who Batman is. Strange was right in his approach that he just "created a psychological profile of the person most likely to be Batman" and it would stand to reason that somebody like Bruce Wayne would fit that profile. Somebody with that rigid of a sense of justice has most likely gone through some kind of traumatic event and it is known what happened to Bruce's parents way back then. Also everybody has seen the things that Batman uses his jets and gadgets, like in Arkham Origins he flies around in a LITERAL PLANE, the Batwing. Literally how many people in the world can afford something like that? And not even the world, it's a fairly safe assumption that Batman lives in Gotham as he only fights crime IN GOTHAM. So out of all the people in Gotham there is only like probably one person if not just a handful, that have that kind of money none of the criminals have it and even if Batman isn't funding himself, they know that there is at least a very strong connection to Gotham's richest billionaire and Batman.
I remember in one animated show of Batman a super villain robot labeled D.A.V.E. managed to deduce the Caped Crusader's secret identity with logic, using the internet Dave segregated millionaires in Gotham (which is surprisingly a lot), picked those who have a muscular build and ages between 26-30, leading to only 3 and finally find one who have a good reason to be Batman, with Thomas and Martha Wayne's death as the final piece.
I've been saying for a long time that it should be shockingly easy for any competent investigative force to figure out who Batman is, or at least come close: all his hardware is obviously completely custom, extremely expensive, and incredibly high tech, which means that all you'd have to do is track down the few people/orgs in the world that could desing and build them, then go from there.
Gotham city men are clearly undervalued. Just because most work for some phycoic criminal employer of some kind doesn't make them unintelligent. Everybody's got to make a living.
The riddler couldn’t figure this shit out but this dude could 💀
There's a fan theory that states that the riddler actually refuses to believe it's Bruce Wayne, as he refuses to be wrong since he's a ego maniac, and he ruled it out a long time ago, most likely during the events of origins, I have no source and no evidence to back this up, this is coming straight from my memory, but if I find a source or any evidence to back this up I'll come back to this comment and add it.
@@connerthehonker9786i think you are referring to the idea that the Riddler always suspected Bruce Wayne the most for being Batman because it made the most sense to him, but his pride wouldn't let him think a snobby rich boy could outsmart his plans and riddles.
And there is a line like that in this game by the Riddler where at the end of the game where Batman's identity becomes public Riddler still refuses to believe it.
@@connerthehonker9786 8 think their was a comic about that
@@connerthehonker9786 In the Hush comic, Riddler figures it out after he exits a Lazarus Pit but Batman gives him 2 reasons why he will never anyone. One, a riddle that everyone knows the answer to is worthless and two, Batman will tell Ra's where to find Riddler since he stole one of his pits.
@@connerthehonker9786That's not a fan theory - He just straight up says that in suicide squad kill the justice league, and King Shark called him a Bructher or something
I know that dude went "I KNEW IT!"
and his buddies gone: "naaaah, shut up. you never said that"..
😂
@@mateusloubachdefinitely 😂
in the hospital where he's recovering from all the broken bones that batman gave him
@@cabbage1024”maybe he will pay for our bills?”
This thug is smarter than 99% of Batman's villains
True
The 1% is Hugo Strange.
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Hugo Normal*
@@jrloulanza6534bane
@@jrloulanza6534 Bane is top 1%
In the comics, Alfred said that if people were really paying attention to Bruce they would easily guess that he's Batman.
Part of me wants to think that Alfred says that because Bruce Wayne acts like a jackass but techically hasn't done anything that would make someone think he is anything but a good person.
Bruce Wayne relies almost solely on a fake personality as a defense. He acts like a careless playboy who only cares about himself, to make it seem totally implausible that he's a ninja crime fighter. It'd be like a younger, in shape Donald Trump secretly being Batman.
Bruce actually poisons Gothamz water to keep the city dumb enough to not figure it out
@@BubblesZap when did he do that lol
@@pinheadnova4953 i think you missed the joke buddy
This was the day Batman broke his "no killing" rule
1 exception. Not even the Joker deserved that. XD
💀
No witnesses
This was the day Batman almost broke his rule... Real close...
Batman: No witnesses
That thug most likely pulled an “I KNEW IT!!” after the game’s ending.
If he even woke up after being smashed into concrete from a man that weighs 210 pounds falling at max velocity
Probably that thug is already in the hospital with broken bones
You can indeed hear a "I told you so" conversation with him after the ending
Really?@@justaguy1212
If he recovers from toxin poisoning fast enough to find out
That guy definitely won some money on a bet after the world learned who Batman was.
More likely, while he and his buddies are sitting in the cells at the GCPD, watching the Scarecrow's broadcast, they all slow turn towards him and see his equally stunned expression. What happens beyond that point would be anybody's guess.
@@Boskov01 they all run to beat the shit out of him. no words spoken before, during, or after.
Yeah not before his broken bones, his face that was hit by a tank shell, hit by a tank at high speed and getting tased😂
@@Boskov01"Congratulations, you are now a super villain, and your super villain name is 'Jinx'. Got any other predictions?" -A sarcastic buddy of theirs.
"Haha funny, sure, Superman is Clark Kent. Ain't no way that's a thing. If it is, well then my name is in fact Jinx." -Jinx
I mean he technically need the money after what batman will do to him.
Thug: "I mean, the batmobile always returns to the direction of wayne manor"
This 😂
😂😂😂
it actually doesnt, he uses tunnels all over the city to get it around
In the actual real life his secret identity wouldnt last a month :D
Satellit photos, tracking devices, AI face recognition on his chin... man, how stupid are the people in the DC world :D
@@allisterfield6028actually...👆🤓🤓🤓
And he was the first 'accidental' victim of batman. This one didn't survive
Joker was the first "accidental death"
Well now it's shrike from AS
He suffered from blunt force trauma, and a "accidentally" placed gunshot to the head
Batman be like: Oh no... Alfred, prepare the knightfall protocol! They know it!
Nobody refuted him on that either. It's like everyone was giving that serious thought.
To be fair, they were just discussing who was bankrolling Batman, not who Batman actually was. It’s easy to guess that Wayne Enterprises was funding the bat. But everyone would think that he was ex-spec ops that Bruce hired to do the deeds.
@@coltonwilliams4153 yeah, i mean given bruce's playboy act, there's no real reason to assume it's him. the guys family died here, he left town for years, and now spends most of his days partying with models in a faux drunken stupor and thinking up new ways to break his leg "Skiing", from most people's judgment he has no loyalty to gotham, no higher ethics and no personal motivation/willpower. they'd likely assume he either doesn't know and it's being funded by someone on the board of directors etc., or they'd assume this was bruce's pet project, he got a wild hair up his butt and decided to bankroll an urban legend. even if they put two and two together about his motive for being batman stemming from his parents' murders, they'd likely assume that is his motive for PAYING batman, not that bruce IS batman.
also, in the comics, they had the batman inc. story arc, where bruce literally admitted to bankrolling the batman for years as a limited test run, and then starts recruiting batmen to hold down other cities globally. he doesn't admit to being batman, but basically admits that the bat-family are effectively an official Wayne Enterprises funded private mercenary group.
@@gourdguru I have heard that there have been one or two stories where Bruce has stated that he served as a financial backer of sorts to Batman. I wasn't sure if that was true but thank you for confirming it. I do appreciate that you point out why people would not automatically assume that Bruce was Batman. I think it is sometimes overlooked how much that persona plays a part in people's perceptions of him. Since they assume that the billionaire playboy is all that there is to see, they don't bother to look deeper. We see in this series alone people such as Penguin, Two-Face, and Hush who dismiss him as just being a spoiled rich boy despite his personal tragedy for one reason or another.
@@jamesvach6698 yeah, whole comic series, "Batman Incorporated", check it out. not amazing, but not terrible either.
@@jamesvach6698 in batman inc bruce comes out to the public and says that he funds batman so that's one storyline
Months after waking up from his coma, after learning his guess was right, he went on to celebrate with his cellmates.
Months after waking up from his coma he went by his business wondering why his group would be afraid of a half human half demon type figure
Batman: "they know too much"
*breaks 0 kills rule
tired of people saying "batman doesnt kill." Pick up a comic. Batman used to carry guns and murdered all the time. Its only because of the Nolan films that casuals like you spout that "batman doesnt kill" BS.
@@AzguardMike There's only nine instances of Batman using a firearm, you casual.
@@AzguardMikeDude, chill out. Batman has different versions. Certain versions kill, certain versions don't. So the original comment isn't wrong. This version of Batman doesn't kill.
@@jcoolguy1548^^^ there’s a version of Batman who killed the Entire Justice League. And there’s a version who absolutely won’t kill. Multi-Verse dawg
You kill someone for that and all it does is draw attention to that one Thug. The last thing Bats would want is people thinking that he knew something he shouldn't.
Later that night:
The thugs celebrate how they guessed Batman's identity.
He mysteriously died
Bruce and Bane in the original KnightFall story:
"You know who I am?"
"You could be no one else."
He's not wrong. It only takes a little common sense and research to determine Batman's identity, in spite of all the measures Bruce has taken to hide it. I mean, think about it. Whoever Batman could be, he likely lives in Gotham since that's where he mostly operates. He has to be in decent physical condition in order to spend his nights running around punching bad guys, and he needs to have plenty of cash to pay for all of his equipment. Finally, who else has the motivation to even do something as absurd as dressing up as a flying mouse and thrashing crooks while also fitting all the prior criteria? It's not rocket science.
@@masedaace5473 you're the REAL world's greatest detective
@3Crisstopher3 thanks!
@@masedaace5473 Also, think about this. After Bruce's parents died, he left Gotham for nearly a decade. He comes back, noticeably different than when he left, and Batman shows up not too long after. Add that on top of the fact that when the Bat-Signal is on, he suddenly has to drop whatever he's doing because "something's come up". This is something that happens on a suspiciously regular basis, and everyone thinks it's just a coincidence.
@@masedaace5473 my favorite example of batman accounting for this scrutiny is jason todd. in the original continuity jason todd is a redhead, and bruce recruits him shortly after dick leaves. bruce recruits todd, a street kid about the right age with anger issues who tries to steel the hubcaps off the batmobile, on short notice, and then makes him use temporary hair dye to dye his hair black when in the robin suit to look more like dick. it's never spelled out directly, but it's heavily implied that bruce hadn't planned for dick to leave suddenly on bad terms, and needed a replacement robin so that both their identities would be protected when Dick left. it would be pretty obvious if the same week that bruce wayne's ward leaves town, robin goes MIA. likewise, if suddenly bruce wayne has a new redhead ward, and now robin is suddenly a ginger kid, that's also a problem for both batman and nightwing. so batman brought on jason because he thought he could help the kid and he also needed a robin body double(no one besides gordon, the league, and a few rogues like joker have interacted with robin enough to notice the difference), and jason's natural hair color was now a convenient piece of plausible deniability, shifting attention away from Bruce. if bruce wayne is batman then that means that teenager he's got living with him has to be robin, but when the old ward left robin was still around, and the new kid is a redhead so he isn't robin, therefore batman can't be bruce wayne.
Batman - "He knows too much"
Proceeds to give thug brain damage
Giving him the Bane treatment
Nah he just shoots em with the bat tank but "forgets" to use the non-lethal rounds
Brain Damblage
Would have been funny if after the reveal you could find those thugs again and they have a conversation like:
Thug A: I knew it!
Thug B: How long are you gonna keep saying that?
Thug A: Until you admit I was right.
i'm pretty sure there's some voicelines of thugs saying this already lol
Who gonna tell ‘em?
Worst things is that some thugs have actually seen how Bruce Wayne fights.
Yeah in handcuffs too.
And penguin saw it to
Yeah but they all came down with a minor case of serious brain damage immediately afterwards.
A whole bunch of them probably figured that Bruce Wayne fights without equipment and only when necessary, so he can't possibly be Batman.
@@Copyblade5 lol true
0:23 Okay, now you sound crazy.
Crazy?
I was crazy once
@@TheFizioin a rubber room
“Alfred prepare contingency kill Thug that knows my identity”
Alfred: “Right away master Bruce I am sending you your Bat gun”
Always thought it was the Bat Glock 😂
@@SaucyWolfTaco “Do I look poor Alfred; Batman doesn’t use glocks”
@@BubbaGunShrimpAlfred, deploy Ruger Redhawk.
Batman at that time when he heard this: "Fuck."
I want to see that thug’s reaction during the Knightfall protocol.
"I KNEW IT! HAHA, TAKE THAT YOU VILLANS!! I AM THE NUMBER ONE VILLAN ALIVE! BRUCE WAYNE I'LL BE SENDING YOU MY BILL EXTORTION FTW!" YES!
“I will never kill.”
“Have you ever seen Bruce Wayne and Batman in the same room?”
“Starting now.”
I’m surprised no one in Arkham City (Hugo Strange doesn’t count) has figured out Bruce is Batman with how easily he beat up Penguin and his thugs, plus how suddenly he “disappears” and Batman immediately appears INSIDE Arkham City.
@@kevinmora5662 I’d say Bruce quietly disappeared, or was rescued by Batman, dunno
@@TieflingKumasi True, considering Bruce has all the resources, they’d even guess that HE’S the one FUNDING Batman’s operation. No one would ever think Bruce himself is Batman.
I like this comment but I'm liking it so it won't be 333 likes *Prays to the lord*
@@RobloxianPotterhead 333? 🤔
nahh first time i heard a thug say htat i panicked
Bro that's how you know the game makes you actually feel like batman. Seriously that is impressive e
You must’ve went into cardiac arrest when scarecrow revealed his identity near the end of
@@THEK1NGSCLAN taking off a mask isn't the same thing. He didn't know who he was. There was build up. It didn't come out of nowhere like this
@@dddddddddxx first why tf are you replying to a comment i posted 7 months and 14 days ago
When you realise it's much more easier to guess Bruce is Batman than Clark is Superman
Bruce Wayne looks like Clark.
Clark who? Clark Kent? The unassuming reporter? Nah. He could never be superman. Hes a coward; always runs away just before superman shows up. And he wears glasses.
@@henrlima87Those glasses are the ultimate disguise. Change his appearance completely, he’s unrecognizable with them on.
@@shriharihudliThe funniest part is that it works so well because he uses such a dumb disguise, like think about it, would you think that your akward nerd coworker would be superman? the fact that he seems so similar to him wouyld just make you go "nah, that would be too stupid and obvious lol there isnt no way thats him"
@@richy9589iirc when hes superman hes pumping his chest and change his facial muscles
Apparently in one of the comics, its revealed bruce spends his downtime going on conspiracy forms and spouts crazy conspiracy theories on various things, one of which is bruce wayne being batman but does it specifically so that when people think of bruce wayne being batman theories they think of stuff like aliens building the pyramids and stone hedge being a portal to hell and think its a joke rather than real.
Dude was right on the money...and didn't even realize...
My favorite is the thug who’s also a good dad. 😂😂😂
You mean the dude who’s like “I gotta go him early tn, gotta take care of the kid”
I remember hearing one voiceline from a thug in a car asking if the person driving could stop by the toy store so he could get a toy for his kid that he promised he would get@@Venomsmex
You can tell these guys aren't being serious. The laugh at the end is basically the same thing as a "Yeah right, as if".
batman doesn't kill but he had to make an exception.
Batman doesn't kill, but perhaps Bruce Wayne could....
@@johnsebok3555Bruce’s Wayne show up to thug: hey let’s go to the cliff of Gotham
In this continuity, Hush must be feeling like a right twit. Thanks to his work in Arkham City, everyone assumed that Bruce Wayne was the Identity Thief. At least for a time. Instead of destroying Bruce Wayne's reputation, all Hush did was keep Batman's identity even more secret 😂
Otherwise people would have asked questions about how Wayne went into Arkham City and came out physically unscathed.
Your theory is good but a bit flawed. Don't forget that they had no idea that Hush was even in Arkham City. Countless people were put in there. And it doesn't mention how Hush got out of Arkham City. We don't see him again until he struts into Wayne Tower as Bruce in Arkham Knight. Further, the unscathed part is flawed as Hush's "mask" was literally stitched together. If anyone asked why he could just point to the fact that Wayne had been thrown into Arkham City and people would think its the result of him getting beat up a lot on the inside. The cover was almost perfect. But where Hush went between City and Knight is unknown. A lot of time had passed between those points. Several months to a year or two. Finally, nobody knew who the identity thief was save for Batman.
@@Boskov01 All very fair points. You are right, Hush's face mask was literally stitched together. But my point was that if Hush hadn't been in Arkham City, people would have wondered how the real Bruce Wayne wasn't injured during his time in the place. Instead, because Hush wanted to destroy Bruce Wayne, he impersonated him, leading anyone who saw him to believe (within Arkham City) that Bruce Wayne had gone off his head and become a serial killer. Nobody knew Hush was there. But everyone knew Bruce Wayne was. If Hush hadn't been in the equation, it would have been different. That's my point 🙂
@@solitarysurreal3652 Except aside from the word of a few goons, nobody save Batman knew Hush/Wayne was the Identity Thief. There was nothing to really connect the two, and any evidence that did exist could be dismissed as circumstantial.
Sure, Hush kinda gives Bruce/Batman an alibi for several occasions but no hard evidence from the public standpoint could tie Wayne to the Identity Thief murders.
@@Boskov01 This is true. And being "criminals", people would have been less likely to take them at their word anyway.
@@solitarysurreal3652 keep in mind that not everyone was a criminal when they was enter arkham city remember political prisoners who put there for questioning hugo strange and mayor sharp ideas of the prison hence was forced to work with actual criminal.
Batman be like: "No witnesses" silenced pistol noises.
Batman: "Alfred, I have to kill this thug."
Alfred:"Batman doesn't kill sir!"
Batman: "Thanks Alfred, you are right Batman doesn't kill"
Batman changes into Bruce Wayne outfit, shoots thug, changes back into bat gear.
"Silencers" only quiet a bullet enough to prevent hearing damage.
Let’s not forget that the Riddler also said he cracked who Batman was years and years back but he always thought it was a trick. So riddler knew the whole time
You know for a fact Bruce's heart stopped for a split second when he heard that.
I love how the music started to ham up because of that guess
One scarecrow unmasks Batman to the world he’s going going to scream to the heavens “I knew it!”
That man was never seen again
Batman was quivering in his boots in that very moment
Batman: well i was going to use non lethal measures but ...
Bro figured it out before the riddler
Thug: “Anyone ever noticed Bruce Wayne and Batman have the same chin?”
Imagine his surprise at post story mode lol
"One neck snap later" Alfred get my April fools suit ready cuz im about to prank some witnesses 👁️👄👁️
I know Batman's heart was THUMPIN' when he said that Lmao
Rumor has it that Batman pummeled that guy up until he has amnesia
Just Like Bane in the Arkham Origins?
This, this is how it happened. This is how the Batman absolutely shat his pants for a sec
A stopped clock is right twice a day.
Batman certainly isn't buying all of his gadgets on a waiter's salary...
This is how it happened. This is how the thug died.
I like how he is standing there dumbfounded like “damn what do I do now??”
Batman heard that and got scared. He just stood there.
And just for the moment, the "no kill" rule went out of the window
in a couple hours that guy is gonna feel like a real genius
“Come on, man. 50 bucks, pay up.”
“Come on, it’s not like you guessed it was Wayne.”
“Well, you’re the one who put money on him for being an alien refugee from a dying planet.”
“Huh. I could’ve sworn I’ve heard that before.”
Nobody in the Gotham even thinking of where does Batman get his gadget from. Think about it,
There are so many rich people in Gotham like Bruce Wayne, Oswald Cobblepot, Harvey Dent, even Joker can consider be rich as he has a lot of money from his crime activities and has a lot of thugs.
Cobblepot / Penguin is mostly selling weapons and drugs, Harvey Dent / Two Face is a succesful district attorney. Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne has everything from the technologies, cars and a lot of shareholders.
Bane did. In knightfall he figured Batman would make his own tech and Bruce would be able to afford it.
It wouldn’t make any sense for Batman to be allegedly supplied by Cobblepot or Dent - why would they make custom, bat-themed equipment for a vigilante that has thwarted their gang operations for decades?
To be fair, there really is a lot of wealthy people in Gotham, and if I remember correctly, Bruce isn't even the wealthiest of them, that would be the members of the court of owls, who got their own protection.
@@ryumains6573Publicly then
In the game Arkham Asylum, one of the patient interview tapes for The Riddler, Riddler asks one of the doctors where Batman gets his car and his gadgets. He then answers his own question with the answer "with the money stolen from the criminals he defeats".
Those two would solve any Riddler's puzzles just by having a casual conversation.
That people must be celebrating their prediction in the jail
Edit -"Hey Batman! , I am famous now 🦇
Only if they can move
@@rv9036Oh, they can. It just hurts like hell.
The way the music kicks up as he says it, makes you imagine Batman stopping what he’s doing, slowly turning around, and then we cut to the thugs being absolutely demolished.
batman’s heart probably dropped after he said that 😭
"Maybe it's him! heheuehueheuhe"
Dude's last words
Batman proceeded to “not kill” then after the clip ended
Batman: "I will never kill"
Random thug: "Bruce Wayne is Batman"
Batman: "I haven't said that rule applies today"
He's way smarter than The Riddler himself 😲
Bruce: *tricks someone into accidentally killing this thug*
That’s why Batmans hidden identity is so good even when you think it’s Bruce that’s sound like a joke
Even riddler didn’t believe Batman is Bruce Wayne
Only murder Batman has ever committed
I'm pretty sure the next thing this thug was asked was "what are the winning lotto numbers?", the man did what Riddler couldn't do. After several years of trying various methods he still can't figure it out and some random guy on the street with a few minutes to think about it managed to figure it out.
Hugo Strange would throw a hissy fit
@@Esuerc Hugo probably spent a lot of money on medical school and then months or possibly years of research to determine the identity of Batman. Then some random thug who probably dropped out of high school gets it in under five minutes.
bro was fuming because he couldnt open the door to beat they ass
I wonder if the government guess was a reference to the serials from the 40s.
"I won't kill anyone, but those 2 will never speak again"
I think it’s in all-star Batman, where it opens with someone saying “I think Bruce Wayne is Batman”. And his friend basically goes “yeah idiot, we all know by now, but good luck proving it in court with his legal team”.
Batman - Alfred activate Knightfall Protocol nowwwwww!
Batman: *sweats profusely*
Thug: “Yeah… maybe it’s him!”
Batman: (forced to break his no kill rule) God Damn it…
The one guy in town who doesn't have a family or any responsibilities but yet has billion dollars in the bank, and is barely seen by the public. It makes sense.
Yeah. You'd think if nothing else people would realize that Batman's gear is extremely expensive and cutting edge tech, and Bruce Wayne is pretty much the only person in Gotham rich enough to afford all of that who isn't already a supervillian. They may not make the jump that Bruce Wayne is Batman, but he could very well be funding Batman.
You should edit that comment, so it ends, couldn't possibly be him. It would be funny.
Bruce Wayne may be very good at business, good at schmoozing other rich people, and with a heart of gold, but he's also kind of a rich twit. No offense to the guy who creates a metric fuckton of honest jobs in Gotham and even empties the prison by offering inmates vocational training and work-release programs, with a lot of his most talented and loyal employees being former cons and who outspends all of his rich friends put together in charity donations, but the guy's actually kind of hopeless in everyday life. The guy can't for the life of him understand the very concept of a "manual transmission shaft", it took his chauffeur explaining to him that not all cars have an automatic gear box for it to get it...
Look, I love the guy for actually giving honest work to my cousin who quit drugs, got out of prison and got our family out of poverty thanks to Bruce Wayne's outreach efforts, but it's obvious to anyone who actually met the guy even once that Bruce Wayne's kind of a two-tricks pony, who cruises through life from a combination of old money, charisma and being very good with the money he inherited. Guy may be disconnected from the realities of life for us common folks, but bless his heart of gold for taking his wealth and making the world a better place for us common folks while still making fucktons more money for himself. Seriously, you think *THAT* guy is the streetwise vigilante known as "Batman"? I mean, I'd be willing to believe Brucie bankrolls Batman, especially since he's got the motives to want to clean out Gotham, but actually be Batman? Nah, he's too much of a clueless dolt for that!
I'd love to chat more on the topic, but breaktime's almost over for me and I gotta get back to work at the steel mill along with my cousin. It's got cutting edge safety measures on the machines and workplace safety training so good so that accidents are so rare that Bruce Wayne never pays out workers compensation for injuries since they basically never happen, so least I can do is work hard for my paycheck. Take care and stay safe out there!
Thug: level 1
Thugs brain: maxed
The fact that a thug is smarter than riddler that still deny the fact that batman is bruce wayne is quite something
I don't really think he's smarter. They are most likely speculating here and there.
Batman be like: oh shit 💀 maybe i should reconsider my no kill policy
why do you think batman hits them too much so their brain won’t function properly
lol
Batman will act as _Kratos_ the moment he gets his hands on his mastermind skull.
The only reason they didn’t reveal it is because he has a contingency plan for the entire human race
The Silence Of Batman Express Everything lol 😭😆
To be fair most Superheroes secret identities are kind of obviously. The only one that is the best is Daredevil. No one would think the blind, must follow the law, super dedicated Catholic lawyer would be the super combat skilled, brutal vigilante dress as the devil.
"Maybe it's Matt Murdock..."
"Dude, that's stupid! He's blind!"
"Are you sure about that though? Are you able to see through his eyes?"
"Oh yeah.... Maybe he's faking his blindness to cover himself!"
@@Dante02d12 "But dude he has hospital and doctor records proving he is blind. Plus there records of him being blind since 9 years old. You think a 9 year old has been able to fool doctors and pretend to be blind for 2 decades."
@@theinsurance2450I don't think random goons would know that, lol. (That said I'm not sure if random goons would know Murdock anyway, I don't know how famous he is in the Marvel world.)
@@Dante02d12 He a famous lawyer in Hell's Kitchen in New York. He help defend a lot of ex criminals in the city. Word would have spread throughout street who he is. Also he defend other Superheroes in court which definitely would made him somewhat famous. He even was in a local story about the 9 year old orphan who not only just got blind but lost his famous local boxer Dad.
I mean Barry Allen is alright
But that's moreso because outside of the flash he's a random nobody
"Alfred! Prepare the orbital bat strike on this building".
I don't think the thug actually believed it, but it was just a funny thought to him. Unfortunately, REALITY IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!
Shame that dude mysteriously ended up in a coma about three minutes later.
Yeah, all that money for your suit and tech was a dead give away
Over the years he has staged it so that Bruce Wayne has been seen in public while Batman has also been present.
the way he stopped moving like "fuck.. i gotta kill em now." 😭💀
they don't need to guess. In Arkham Origins, Bane called him "Mister Wayne" in front of everyone in Blackgate prison. And in Arkham City, Hugo Strange called him "Wayne" over the PA several times.
Strange is the only one who made sense. Riddler is a fucking idiot if he couldn't figure out Bruce is Batman. In retrospect it makes total sense there really aren't that many possible options as to who Batman is. Strange was right in his approach that he just "created a psychological profile of the person most likely to be Batman" and it would stand to reason that somebody like Bruce Wayne would fit that profile. Somebody with that rigid of a sense of justice has most likely gone through some kind of traumatic event and it is known what happened to Bruce's parents way back then. Also everybody has seen the things that Batman uses his jets and gadgets, like in Arkham Origins he flies around in a LITERAL PLANE, the Batwing. Literally how many people in the world can afford something like that? And not even the world, it's a fairly safe assumption that Batman lives in Gotham as he only fights crime IN GOTHAM. So out of all the people in Gotham there is only like probably one person if not just a handful, that have that kind of money none of the criminals have it and even if Batman isn't funding himself, they know that there is at least a very strong connection to Gotham's richest billionaire and Batman.
I remember in one animated show of Batman a super villain robot labeled D.A.V.E. managed to deduce the Caped Crusader's secret identity with logic, using the internet Dave segregated millionaires in Gotham (which is surprisingly a lot), picked those who have a muscular build and ages between 26-30, leading to only 3 and finally find one who have a good reason to be Batman, with Thomas and Martha Wayne's death as the final piece.
Batman has tons of gadgets, bombs and shit but he still gives up trying to open the door after pushing it a bit
tbf it's a pretty easy guess, it's just almost impossible to prove unless you manage to get the mask off
I'm sure after the last game events he's laughing in the hospital knowing damn well he was right
Ah yes the three people in Arkham who deduced that Bruce Wayne is Batman
Bane Arkham origins
Hugo strange Arkham city
Random thug #567 Arkham knight
And those 5 penguin thugs in that alleyway in the beginning of Arkham City.(Assuming they aren't vegetables.)
Batman didn’t kill anyone until he met that guy😂
I've been saying for a long time that it should be shockingly easy for any competent investigative force to figure out who Batman is, or at least come close: all his hardware is obviously completely custom, extremely expensive, and incredibly high tech, which means that all you'd have to do is track down the few people/orgs in the world that could desing and build them, then go from there.
I like how our protagonist has a wordless existential crisis
Gotham city men are clearly undervalued. Just because most work for some phycoic criminal employer of some kind doesn't make them unintelligent. Everybody's got to make a living.
The thug in the morning: "Sometimes, my genius is... It's almost frightening."
there was one comic where one of his girlfriends was able to figure out his identity because bruce and batman have the same chin