My Ex, Clear Class 5 CS, abandoned his two year old and his 8 month pregnant wife. Left them three months behind on the rent - for a book fair. I gave him an ultimatum to stay home and find a solution to our 'Wog' problems, or not come back. He left. I locked and bolted the doors, and windows. He banged and yelled at 3am but finally went away. Thank goodness my 2year old slept thru it. My heart beats with yours. HUGS.
I remember being totally shocked when I heard that poor Mike Rinder (at Int Base, att) was immediately shuttled off for Auditing the INSTANT he heard his baby had just died....in another State (Florida)! He was NOT ALLOWED to grieve! No, no! No grief permitted...that's H E & R!
Omg these people are nuts. These recordings should be evidence enough for her to have him arrested. Dropping children off to work and live on a boat his illegal well for normal parents would be in jail for abandonment. It’s time to bring them down.
Reese is BRILLIANT. This is a masterclass in how to talk to any; narcissist, sociopath, gaslighter… beat them at their own game. If they’re going to be a broken record and stick to a script, do the same thing but with your own agenda. Don’t back down. Don’t succumb to the shame they’re trying to put on you. Don’t let them get away with minimizing and patronizing. Be persistent. Bravo Reese!! 💪
About the Kathy phone calls, she didn't even act horrified that her brother beat you up and landed you in the hospital needing two surgeries.. She was exactly trying to find out what she can do to shut you up. No normal person would act like that. Every time they ask for details, where do you work, what's your husband's name, do you scream at your kid, what do you do all day, don't tell them anything. It's stalker information, none of their business what your schedule is etc
It would be fun to hear Kathys reaction if she was asked if she could get her brother declared an sp. That that was the only way all comunication with Aaron would stop.
She is obviously pretending to be the "Good Cop" in this interrogation attempt to manipulate you into trusting her as "Officer Friendly". Her paltry attempts at showing concern for your life. The "Orwellian" police state seduction approach. This is so sad and repulsive. 😢😮😢😮
As vile as Scientology is, turning humans into zombies that don’t have feelings or care for others, the lying through their teeth, and the physical, emotional, sexual and mental abuse of others - the biggest question for me is, Why the heck they haven’t been taken down and exposed by the police? There are so many liberated Scientologists these days that the amount of denouncements, complaints, revelations etc etc to the authorities must be vast. The authorities are failing. Big time. If a child was thought to be working, underage, or forced to work, being physically abused/assaulted in a family or school setting I feel sure that the authorities would be investigating them and sending in the likes of which they did into the FLDS & Warren their prophet - who is now quite rightly in prison! Forced abortions too should have the authorities rushing in! Aaron & Reece .. I’m furious!!
Oh Reese, I think I’ve heard it all now. I’ve listened to the rules and regs of Scientology over the years from all the SPTV channels but hearing the real thing, in action, was astonishing. This so called normal woman just disregarded child abuse, sexual assault, malicious behaviour, and physical violence, and then blame the child victim. Unbelievable!! You are all amazing people trying to bring light to this, God knows what is taking the authorities so long. Well done Reese, thanks AAron😊❤
Reese, I am so sorry about what happened to your son's dad; that is such a deep trauma he experienced. I am so glad you are sharing this and speaking out!
I have to say, Reese-y, I would have lost my composure by this time and given her an earful she would never be able to forget. Kudos to you, Reese! WIN! 🤗💕
I’m not sure what happened. I’ve been out for 23 years & though I’ve read every book there is, this weekend is the first time I’ve been able to watch these videos. You were the window in. Thank you so much. ♥️
Its fascinating to watch Reese blossom more everyday..shes a joyous person..Aaron's personality and compassion with her are spot on Avenger vibes for me
What about all the minors they force to work? All the minors they prey on and abuse? Can there be a class action lawsuit against CoS? It’s designed to separate children from their parents. That’s predatory behavior. It’s gross. How can people justify this behavior? She keeps covering for these abusers. It’s so sad.
It's different in churches, since children can "volunteer " labor legally, which is exactly what these people have the children do... They also aaaaall believe they are working off past lives's debts and this work is owed... Freedom of religion is tricky. Police want proof of the actual abuse happening, and the proof is hard to show. With all these allegations of children getting hurt on the job alone, I really wish the FBI would raid the 150 Orgs and do a CPS welfare check on each child. 💔 Maybe if enough of us call to report child abuse they'd be forced to do something?
It was shocking how many times I had to remind myself that the chaplain was lying and gaslighting. I can totally understand why people get pulled back in. Very enlightening. Thanks guys! ❤
I have so much to say about these calls yet somehow I have no words. But the lack of empathy, the obvious programming and pointlessness of the questions, even though the questions are extremely personal, I have a new level of disgust for scientology. You guys are doing a great job. And these recordings are eye opening. Thank you Reese!! I hope you know how much support you have from all of us. And I hope this all makes you stronger every day.
In 2016, I was at a restaurant in KC near the org just minding my own business. Then some lady with dark hair walked passed and stoped and looked at my mom and me. She said, “I’m sorry to intrude, but I just felt a huge need to stop and pray with you about something going on in your life. My mom and I were both Christian at the time so my mom said yes that she could sit and pray with us. She prayed about some random things and the whole prayer sounded off, like not a format of prayer that we were used to hearing. Then she ended the prayer and asked us if we would come over the CoS to take some classes because she thought they would help us. We of course asked about what they believe and if they believed in the Christian God and if they had worship times. She told us that Scientology tech can be used with any religion and that they gather every week for worship. Anyway, I gave her my number and I have been harassed about joining since then. I don’t even live there anymore! 😂
I have to ask why in the heck you would give a scientologist your phone number? Or any person that comes up to you on the street? No offense, but use more common sense in the future.
As an Indian woman none of them approach me because no one wants brown people in their cult 🤣 but my white husband gets attacked and I have to rescue him. I yell loudly in Hindi 🤣🤣🤣 and then run like they have seen the devil.
Reese I really want to commend you on how cool, calm and collected you've been throughout all of these calls. You did an awesome job of just letting the callers show their true colours while just factually stating your case, holding your ground and maintaining your boundaries. Thumps up! And AARon, I'm an avid YT watcher but also one who can only handle listening to most creators in small doses. You on the other hand, I can listen to you everyday all day. I have zero experience with Scientology but nonetheless I'm addicted to your channel. Great work all around!
The generosity Of Reese is outstanding. She’s willing to share those private conversations so ppl will clearly see how it is in REALITY. Nobody had provide that ok this channel. Reese has courage - grace and is STRONG. She’s exceptional really. I know she will never see this message but I admire how courageous she is … brave enough and selfless enough to have talked the way she talked to this woman. How it must me hard to heard all of this all over again. You deserve all the best Reese. Your changing minds … that’s powerful
I would LOVE to know what scientology is saying about these recordings being released. I wonder if they are tearing the walls down trying to figure out who said what to Reese so they have an idea of what will be coming out
Reese these recordings are such an eye opener. You’ve done a service and planted lots of seeds! Thank you I’ve read all the books out there and they have made an impression but these tapes are another level!
Reese, I happened to be listening to this while I was dealing with my own C-PTSD issue. It was something that happened to my horse that I had to confront and I was able to do it. You are very brave and I love you for calling out your trauma and I facing it with the strong support of AAron. Words matter. Innocent lives matter. Thank you for revealing the evildoers. Please do this again when you are ready to. ❤❤❤❤
It is so infuriating that this kind of Abuse is acceptable and not being more investigated by the Country's there so prominent in! Thank God that although my Dad is an American , but my Mom is Belgian so i've been brought up in both but we live in Belgium and go to visite my Dad's family 3 or 4 times a year, here in Belgium COS is not really popular like that!
I became fascinated with the train wreck that is scientology beginning with Tom Cruise's divorce from Nicole Kidman and the estrangement of the adopted children and alienation from Nicole. I have watched everything out there all the docs all the podcast hundreds of hours of content literally. I have never understood more plainly than listening to these phone calls. This is unbelievably cruel and evil and tragic over and over and over.
This was sooo helpful for us non-Scientologists to hear And Reese, there is nothing more cathartic and feeing then to bring secrets into the light. We all appreciate both of you for your willingness to share the truly dark sides of Scientology. Keep up the good work!
One thing i appreciated as a person is within the first 5 minutes of the phone call this lady said i am sorry that happened to you. Shes already on better footing person wise than that kathy lady. Its weird to me. She talks like she is surprised that you get along with other people. The comment about getting along with your husband. Thats weird.
This phone conversation is so weird. I would have been « none y’a bizness « on some of those personal questions. Good for you Reese for being upfront with this woman. 😱
I have ‘enjoyed’ listening to these calls SO much. It is such a rare insight. Reese- it was brilliant to record to validate yourself later- wish I had done that a few times in life. ❤❤
Just another reminder to the under the radar scientologists: now is the time to start recording calls and saving evidence. Don't keep putting it off. By the time things get really nasty or disconnection starts it will be too late. There are apps that automatically record every call and then you can decide whether or not to save the call afterwards. Very helpful for any kind of abuse, stalking, and threats.
Reese, I just want to acknowledge how much courage you have in these calls. That you could say the things you did, knowing your whole life could explode, that you and your child could be targeted. I just want to acknowledge what had to be terror. So glad you recorded.
This conversation reminds me of being on the phone with a representative of a service that you JUST WANT TO CANCEL. Remember how hard it was to cancel AOL? You know the only way out is just to put up with their bullsh*t until they give up.
I went rounds with Comcast. Every month the bill was more expensive than the last and when I would call and ask why it was more and request a itemized receipt they never had answers and refused to provide me a itemized receipt. I couldn't get the cable cancelled and just keep the wifi. Finally I just quit paying it and I unplugged all the "leased" cable boxes and drove them to the Comcast building and they had a giant mailbox with a spring bottom. Shoved them frickers in the slot and drove off feeling like I won. I didn't. But it did on that drive home.
Oh the bright side she didnt talk about grandma's precious vase imported from Italy 🤐 Seriously though this was heartbreaking. This poor young woman is so deeply sunken into that world of delusion. It's downright enraging the lengths people will go to to avoid shaking the boat. The Huxley bit was hilarious though. A rival sci-fi author and seeker of mysticism. Well done Reese! 😂
So let me get this straight…basically she said that Reese needs to manage her expectations bc clearly expecting to not be beat with a fax machine, choked, disowned by your father and sexually harassed/assaulted are expectations that are way too high. Also, Reese should just get over it bc it happened 20 years ago and besides she never experienced anything like that in her 12 years, so obviously things have changed, so there’s absolutely no reason to keep “complaining” about it. 🤦🏽♀️ I mean wow….these people are really ethical pieces of work…..
The more I think about it, the end of the call said it all. When Reese says that she expected better, especially from high ranking officials and that they should be held at a higher standard, sopheia literally tells her that she has high expectations. If that doesn’t say Scientology is a piece of shit, I don’t know what does
You forgot to mention how REESE did something to “pull it in”-the biggest bug up my butt is victim-blaming that gives abusers a FREE PASS,even a pat on the back by CoS
Thank you both for sharing your stories and truths. I was a Scientologist back in the old days (early 70s) at the founding church in DC. I went as far as ot3 and became an auditor. I learned what I needed to and left. It is interesting to hear the old terms and hear how things have changed. Keep up the reality.
Reese, you're absolutely right to want justice for what you have experienced. As a 12 year member of the sea org, this woman is so far in the cult she can't see how wrong it is. You are talking to another victim of a cult who has been taught to ignore that voice screaming for justice. Her reaction is an example of the non physical violence that scientology forces upon its victim. She's not capable of recognizing the reality of your experience. I am so happy that you are no longer in such a destructive place!
I love these calls. This one gives tremendous insight into how frustrating it must be to get these calls as a public Scientologist. They are only asking these questions to engage her because they have or should know this already from the other calls and sessions
They keep trying to say its been "so long ago" or alluding to that, but you know their same varied response of "get over it" would happen to victims even an hour after an abuse - because they've done it to you.
Until Sophia can get to the point that Amy did, as have so many others, asking herself: "WHY am I defending the indefensible?", ... she will continue in her cognitive dissonance.
Aaron I’m so happy you and Reese have found each other. You are the perfect person to help her navigate the exit of Scientology. I’ve never been a Scientologist but it’s always fascinated and concerned me. From the disconnection of one’s child to go on a boat to work and God knows what else. To the trauma that takes affect the whole time you’re in and there after. Hello Government and Law Enforcement pay attention. Reese you’re great and true to yourself and with these recordings and Aaron’s skills 😊😊you are both making a difference and a service by getting this out there. Love both your channels!
38:33 I cannot believe she just said that!! You clearly said you were a child when that attack happened. Who cares if you did say something to provoke it. You were a child. Really sick that scientology has turned this woman into someone who thinks that type of justification is okay..😢
I mean this in the most Southern way possible: oh, bless her heart. I am actually under the suspicion that why she asked if you scream at your son because they can use that as fair game material.
OMG! That chick annoyed the crap out if me. You gave her heck. I would have hung up on her. Reese, you were great. You have no reason to feel guilty or bad for this lady. Ugh....You are flourishing and prospering without these idiots !
Great podcast and Reese looks fantastic. No one can say she's in pajamas now. I love her look. Aaron thank you for sharing your videos. I can relate to how Reese is being treated and those phone calls made me tear up. The mental anguish is so much to bear and all the gaslighting and love bombing is sick but she's not alone. She has our SPTV family and a lot of friends on her side. My hat goes off to you Aaron for helping those of us who have to deal with the same thing regardless of what Cult we have been in. It's a lot for anyone to go through. For me, the shunning was the worst part. So glad she's out and also good that she has you to help her "us" along with meeting a stranger. (Ourselves).
Reese I did acupuncture for chronic migraines..I was 46 nothing worked, until then. 16 years now…zero headaches..ZERO. I haven’t had to go to acupuncture since either. Give it a try..it’s painless. I am so enjoying this channel and your conversations .
Of course you feel guilty That’s part of the "game" What’s so beautiful about you R is that you have feelings Compassion And empathy. Hopefully this will help Sophia EXIT
If that Scientology freaky woman responds "COOOL!!" one more time, I'm going to puke!! At no point does this woman ever tell her to please, write the assault info & description down & give it to her immediately so that the proper people can be notified & disciplined. 😳 UNBELIEVABLE for a "normal" human, but totally okay behavior for Scientologists! 😮 😳 Total Freaks. {And NO! SHE DOES NOT WANT A SESSION!!!}
This conversation reminds me of the Duggar family's letters to the judge pleading for leniency on behalf of their most execrable and mediocre son after he was found guilty of only some of the misery he has spread to others in his wasted life... reading all the hard-to-believe testimony in these letters to the judge from that TV clan about how Josh is an average father who talks to his kids sometimes and like, works a job and also isn't in any debt, the impression emerges is that this cult-like family sincerely believe that while the bar for male behavior in the IBLP is on the _floor_ , it must be _even lower_ among those who don't mesh w their legalistic Bible-worshipping conception of 'Jesus.' They think if "the world" is evil, their golden boy w the punchable face must be really something as he's leading his grotesque life, and a description of his doing banal and unremarkable things will just _knock the judge's socks off!_ I think this Sea Org lady asks if Reese "like, screams at" her 13 y o son not only because screaming is normal in the church, but also because it sounds like they assume those without 'the tech' in their lives are hapless fvckups with no idea how to live or function in society. Ironic, since the more of a scientologist one is, the less equipped they seem to be to interact socially w the real world... (In the unlikely event anyone thinks I'm being too hard on the oldest Duggar child and his disturbing parents, , I'll clarify that while I have no experience w the IBLP, I have too much experience w legalistic x-tian fundamentalists, and I don't appreciate their deciding I'm 'not really x-tian' if I disagree w them, particularly when they use 'religious conviction' as an excuse to avoid accountability for sin/crimes, or to neglect their children... looped it back to scientology and my ongoing SPTV enthusiasm! Yes!!)
Yes, the Duggars are what my daughter calls psycho-Xtians. I understand the ex-Scientologists rejecting mainstream Christianity, but it breaks my heart. I pray for them everyday to find peace and comfort, and maybe one day be open to hear the good news of our Saviour Jesus Christ.
This so-called "Chaplin" does not give a damn how Reese was feeling about the way she was treated. Never in the history of the Sea Org has anyone said out loud "Hey does this person have a legitimate reason to despise Scientology, Scientologists, and it's culture??" Never happened. It ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS comes down to the person complaining BEING "the problem". That they always have hidden crimes against Scientology. That they weren't "ethical enough". Or they're "PTS" or "Suppressive" or yada yada yada. Scientology is allowed to take no L's by order of Hubbard. And anyone being "reasonable" (a horrible crime in Scientology) enough to accept that the problem is in house, would be immediately burnt and buried. If Sophia said *"oh my god, if someone did that to my teenage daughter, I would have called the cops and had them thrown in jail!!!"* , she would have been either RPF'd or declared and kicked out of the Sea Org. For just that. For saying the most simple, basic-level-empathy display of compassion and understanding. Scientology is *not* a religion. It is only PRETENDING to be a religion to keep the authorities away from their money and resources. Scientology is a societal structure cult that attempts to undermine the world around it. Luckily, it has self-destructive tendencies built right into it. So there's no chance it will get much bigger anymore.
In addition to stunted growth, they should be held accountable and loose tax exempt status. One of few good things about internet is exposure of Scientology’s cult
@peachpi4025 Yeah, totally but... to be honest... I don't give a FUUUCK about their tax-exempt status. The last place I want their resources going to is the Pentagon. Rather... I believe their entire criminal operations should be seized. Their assets frozen and completely liquidated. And every dollar given entirely to the children they exploited, and their victims of "Fair Game". In what I would call a satisfactory attempt to help heal the lives destroyed by Scientology. Anything less than that is *not* justice. Hopefully, if Leah's suit is taken the whole way, it will open the doors for a class action suit where this would be possible.
You should have said “ Dismantle the whole organisation”…” I want em all arrested” “ I wanna remove an appendage ( hand / balls )…😂…” The Insanity Roundabout, that is Scientology…!!!! ❤u Reese & Aaron 🇬🇧
I knew a Scientologist here in KC in early 2000s. He got out but got beat up a few times first. We passed by the building & we’re freaking out. Lights on but It looked empty
This phone call was a major fishing expedition. She asked about everything she could think of, and pauses like shes taking notes. Then she says "got it" after she wrote it. Is she going to include the notes in her report? Lol
Aaron and Reese you guys are the best.. ❤😂 Edit: I just got to the 1 hour mark.. Oh my god Reese, I'm so sorry for Huxley's dad. I hope and pray that one day this cult will be stopped and people held accountable for their evil behaviours. This needs to be stopped asap, David M needs to be in prison!!!!!
So, if you do something evil, it isn't you doing it, but if something evil is done to you, you are responsible for "drawing" that evil thing in. Interesting ...
When I was a kid there was a scientology building across street from my elementary. We always were curious because it seemed so secretive and only had few cars there. The building was sold and turned into a house. It was listed for a million in a neighborhood of ww2 homes in TN lol. I still want see what it looks like inside.
I absolutely love Reese's energy already am a big fan. I have been listening to the calls and i wanted to ask if Reese ever considered the thought that the reason they can't deal with issues she brought up (the abuse) is because one of the main beliefs is that they have the tech to make ppl more ethical and so they wouldn't be able to go up on the bridge if they weren't getting better. It's circular reasoning and essentially you telling them these things happen is making them brain fart they can't accept the idea that some monster got thru because if one did then the tech doesn't work so therefore the fact that they have gone up and been audited/secchecked etc must have solved the problem. I think that line of thinking may be responsible for alot of abuses. Essentially you go up the bridge by them okaying it and reality doesn't matter it will be swept under the rug if reality conflicts with where scientology says they are. I also wanted to mention how you were speaking about how you wouldn't want Huxley messed with by pi's/scientology. I just wanted to ccaution you about directly referencing your worst nightmares publically because I'd imagine you're basically giving them ideas on what would be the best way to fair game you. They love to exploit your fear, continue to be brave darling you're one of my new bright spots thank you for your sweetness. My fiancé and my 4 Siamese and one regular cat send our love. You need to get a facebook page so i can friend request you i'd love to be your friend.
My Ex, Clear Class 5 CS, abandoned his two year old and his 8 month pregnant wife. Left them three months behind on the rent - for a book fair.
I gave him an ultimatum to stay home and find a solution to our 'Wog'
problems, or not come back. He left.
I locked and bolted the doors, and windows. He banged and yelled at 3am but finally went away. Thank goodness my 2year old slept thru it. My heart beats with yours. HUGS.
I don’t know how Reese was able to keep her composure and sanity over the course of an hour long rambling telephone call with this woman.
SHE SOUNDED LIKE SHE WAS TRYING TO CONVINCE HERSELF AS MUCH AS CONVINCE REESE
snap!
LOUD NOISES
The way she was obviously taking notes and her "cool" comments were just filling dead air while she wrote them down
Thank you Reese for coming forward and exposing this insanity.
Reese is cool as shit. The way she handled herself on these calls is astounding. Composed, concise and intelligent.
I remember being totally shocked when I heard that poor Mike Rinder (at Int Base, att) was immediately shuttled off for Auditing the INSTANT he heard his baby had just died....in another State (Florida)! He was NOT ALLOWED to grieve! No, no! No grief permitted...that's H E & R!
Omg these people are nuts. These recordings should be evidence enough for her to have him arrested. Dropping children off to work and live on a boat his illegal well for normal parents would be in jail for abandonment. It’s time to bring them down.
Wow, if this woman is a representative of Scientology, I just keep thinking how lame their parties must be. LOVE you, Reese!!! and you, A-Aron.
Reese is BRILLIANT. This is a masterclass in how to talk to any; narcissist, sociopath, gaslighter… beat them at their own game. If they’re going to be a broken record and stick to a script, do the same thing but with your own agenda. Don’t back down. Don’t succumb to the shame they’re trying to put on you. Don’t let them get away with minimizing and patronizing. Be persistent. Bravo Reese!! 💪
Love this!
Drinking game... take a shot every time the sea org member says "oh cool"
About the Kathy phone calls, she didn't even act horrified that her brother beat you up and landed you in the hospital needing two surgeries..
She was exactly trying to find out what she can do to shut you up. No normal person would act like that. Every time they ask for details, where do you work, what's your husband's name, do you scream at your kid, what do you do all day, don't tell them anything. It's stalker information, none of their business what your schedule is etc
It would be fun to hear Kathys reaction if she was asked if she could get her brother declared an sp. That that was the only way all comunication with Aaron would stop.
She is obviously pretending to be the "Good Cop" in this interrogation attempt to manipulate you into trusting her as "Officer Friendly".
Her paltry attempts at showing concern for your life.
The "Orwellian" police state seduction approach.
This is so sad and repulsive. 😢😮😢😮
@@forrestfeyyes that’s right and arrested for what he did
As vile as Scientology is, turning humans into zombies that don’t have feelings or care for others, the lying through their teeth, and the physical, emotional, sexual and mental abuse of others - the biggest question for me is, Why the heck they haven’t been taken down and exposed by the police? There are so many liberated Scientologists these days that the amount of denouncements, complaints, revelations etc etc to the authorities must be vast. The authorities are failing. Big time. If a child was thought to be working, underage, or forced to work, being physically abused/assaulted in a family or school setting I feel sure that the authorities would be investigating them and sending in the likes of which they did into the FLDS & Warren their prophet - who is now quite rightly in prison! Forced abortions too should have the authorities rushing in! Aaron & Reece .. I’m furious!!
RIGHT? It was like she just told her she had to run to the store or something.
I felt like she was writing or typing everything down after each of the questions.😂
Oh Reese, I think I’ve heard it all now. I’ve listened to the rules and regs of Scientology over the years from all the SPTV channels but hearing the real thing, in action, was astonishing. This so called normal woman just disregarded child abuse, sexual assault, malicious behaviour, and physical violence, and then blame the child victim. Unbelievable!! You are all amazing people trying to bring light to this, God knows what is taking the authorities so long. Well done Reese, thanks AAron😊❤
I would go out of my mind if someone called me and kept me on the phone, going around and around in conversational circles .... Good Lord!
I love the cleaning sounds in the background in all these calls 😂 I feel you on a spiritual level on that front hun. I clean when I’m stressed too 😅
You're doing a good thing exposing this abuse to the world. I hope more people leave this evil cult.
I’ve had hours of similar calls (and unwanted visits). I wish I had recorded them!
38:56 I don’t give a damn if she actually told the guy “ please hit me in the head with a fax machine.” What he did was assault on a child.
Reese, I am so sorry about what happened to your son's dad; that is such a deep trauma he experienced. I am so glad you are sharing this and speaking out!
I have to say, Reese-y, I would have lost my composure by this time and given her an earful she would never be able to forget. Kudos to you, Reese! WIN! 🤗💕
Agree! The questions! Holy crap!
Watching most of your videos I always assumed this stuff happened mostly abroad, not in my home state!!
You can tell she is writing everything down. Her "thats cool response" is just buying her time while she's writing...
I’m not sure what happened. I’ve been out for 23 years & though I’ve read every book there is, this weekend is the first time I’ve been able to watch these videos. You were the window in. Thank you so much. ♥️
Out-int. God save me. The headaches. I actually found out why ex-Scientologists get headaches. If you want to know, let me know.
Its fascinating to watch Reese blossom more everyday..shes a joyous person..Aaron's personality and compassion with her are spot on Avenger vibes for me
Yes A Aron is just the best protector of Reese. I love how A Aron shows his love and compassion for Reese
I'm glad you're out, Reese. Those people should be brought to justice. You thinking is clear and you are smart. You're on the right track.
Everyone needs to hear this to see how horrible and evil this cult is!!!
This is the most eye opening video about the treatment people get in Scientology
All those questions, I would not last 30 seconds on that phone call haha!
What about all the minors they force to work? All the minors they prey on and abuse? Can there be a class action lawsuit against CoS? It’s designed to separate children from their parents. That’s predatory behavior. It’s gross. How can people justify this behavior? She keeps covering for these abusers. It’s so sad.
All questions we have all asked. Not really sure about a class action suit, how much good it would accomplish.
@@fairyspunfibers9098it would put them on blast… they would love that! News would report on it.
It's different in churches, since children can "volunteer " labor legally, which is exactly what these people have the children do... They also aaaaall believe they are working off past lives's debts and this work is owed... Freedom of religion is tricky. Police want proof of the actual abuse happening, and the proof is hard to show. With all these allegations of children getting hurt on the job alone, I really wish the FBI would raid the 150 Orgs and do a CPS welfare check on each child. 💔 Maybe if enough of us call to report child abuse they'd be forced to do something?
It was shocking how many times I had to remind myself that the chaplain was lying and gaslighting. I can totally understand why people get pulled back in. Very enlightening. Thanks guys! ❤
Love u even more Reese listening to this call. ❤
I have so much to say about these calls yet somehow I have no words. But the lack of empathy, the obvious programming and pointlessness of the questions, even though the questions are extremely personal, I have a new level of disgust for scientology.
You guys are doing a great job. And these recordings are eye opening. Thank you Reese!! I hope you know how much support you have from all of us. And I hope this all makes you stronger every day.
In 2016, I was at a restaurant in KC near the org just minding my own business. Then some lady with dark hair walked passed and stoped and looked at my mom and me. She said, “I’m sorry to intrude, but I just felt a huge need to stop and pray with you about something going on in your life. My mom and I were both Christian at the time so my mom said yes that she could sit and pray with us. She prayed about some random things and the whole prayer sounded off, like not a format of prayer that we were used to hearing. Then she ended the prayer and asked us if we would come over the CoS to take some classes because she thought they would help us. We of course asked about what they believe and if they believed in the Christian God and if they had worship times. She told us that Scientology tech can be used with any religion and that they gather every week for worship. Anyway, I gave her my number and I have been harassed about joining since then. I don’t even live there anymore! 😂
I hope you can block every number they use to try to reach you.
I have to ask why in the heck you would give a scientologist your phone number? Or any person that comes up to you on the street? No offense, but use more common sense in the future.
As an Indian woman none of them approach me because no one wants brown people in their cult 🤣 but my white husband gets attacked and I have to rescue him. I yell loudly in Hindi 🤣🤣🤣 and then run like they have seen the devil.
Reese I really want to commend you on how cool, calm and collected you've been throughout all of these calls. You did an awesome job of just letting the callers show their true colours while just factually stating your case, holding your ground and maintaining your boundaries. Thumps up! And AARon, I'm an avid YT watcher but also one who can only handle listening to most creators in small doses. You on the other hand, I can listen to you everyday all day. I have zero experience with Scientology but nonetheless I'm addicted to your channel. Great work all around!
The generosity Of Reese is outstanding. She’s willing to share those private conversations so ppl will clearly see how it is in REALITY. Nobody had provide that ok this channel. Reese has courage - grace and is STRONG. She’s exceptional really. I know she will never see this message but I admire how courageous she is … brave enough and selfless enough to have talked the way she talked to this woman. How it must me hard to heard all of this all over again. You deserve all the best Reese. Your changing minds … that’s powerful
I would LOVE to know what scientology is saying about these recordings being released. I wonder if they are tearing the walls down trying to figure out who said what to Reese so they have an idea of what will be coming out
Reese these recordings are such an eye opener. You’ve done a service and planted lots of seeds!
Thank you
I’ve read all the books out there and they have made an impression but these tapes are another level!
Talking about screaming 😂 Reese, you literally make me laugh out loud
Reese, I happened to be listening to this while I was dealing with my own C-PTSD issue. It was something that happened to my horse that I had to confront and I was able to do it. You are very brave and I love you for calling out your trauma and I facing it with the strong support of AAron. Words matter. Innocent lives matter. Thank you for revealing the evildoers. Please do this again when you are ready to. ❤❤❤❤
It is so infuriating that this kind of Abuse is acceptable and not being more investigated by the Country's there so prominent in! Thank God that although my Dad is an American , but my Mom is Belgian so i've been brought up in both but we live in Belgium and go to visite my Dad's family 3 or 4 times a year, here in Belgium COS is not really popular like that!
Reese you rock! Your stoic attitude and steady affect during this horrible situation. Your strength is an inspiration!!!
It’s none of their business about your son.
21:00: Maybe Sophia is was a fan of Adous and couldn't help herself. :D
I became fascinated with the train wreck that is scientology beginning with Tom Cruise's divorce from Nicole Kidman and the estrangement of the adopted children and alienation from Nicole.
I have watched everything out there all the docs all the podcast hundreds of hours of content literally.
I have never understood more plainly than listening to these phone calls.
This is unbelievably cruel and evil and tragic over and over and over.
This was sooo helpful for us non-Scientologists to hear And Reese, there is nothing more cathartic and feeing then to bring secrets into the light. We all appreciate both of you for your willingness to share the truly dark sides of Scientology. Keep up the good work!
One thing i appreciated as a person is within the first 5 minutes of the phone call this lady said i am sorry that happened to you. Shes already on better footing person wise than that kathy lady. Its weird to me. She talks like she is surprised that you get along with other people. The comment about getting along with your husband. Thats weird.
Totally intrusive
So heartbreaking, the story of Michael. This abuse has to stop right now.
Reese is far more patient and tolerant than I or most people would ever be.
This phone conversation is so weird. I would have been « none y’a bizness « on some of those personal questions. Good for you Reese for being upfront with this woman. 😱
What a see you next Tuesday .. From the UK
I have ‘enjoyed’ listening to these calls SO much. It is such a rare insight. Reese- it was brilliant to record to validate yourself later- wish I had done that a few times in life. ❤❤
Just another reminder to the under the radar scientologists: now is the time to start recording calls and saving evidence. Don't keep putting it off. By the time things get really nasty or disconnection starts it will be too late. There are apps that automatically record every call and then you can decide whether or not to save the call afterwards. Very helpful for any kind of abuse, stalking, and threats.
Reese, I just want to acknowledge how much courage you have in these calls. That you could say the things you did, knowing your whole life could explode, that you and your child could be targeted. I just want to acknowledge what had to be terror. So glad you recorded.
Yes Reese, if you ever need to hide out, I have the perfect location for you if you don’t mind Appalachia!
Lawyers should have commercial like for class action suits but for sea org people that didn't get paid a legal wage.
Reese just living her life during these calls is the icing on the cake❤
You guys are so cool that you are talking about this.
This conversation reminds me of being on the phone with a representative of a service that you JUST WANT TO CANCEL. Remember how hard it was to cancel AOL? You know the only way out is just to put up with their bullsh*t until they give up.
NOboDy iS pERfecT.
I went rounds with Comcast. Every month the bill was more expensive than the last and when I would call and ask why it was more and request a itemized receipt they never had answers and refused to provide me a itemized receipt. I couldn't get the cable cancelled and just keep the wifi. Finally I just quit paying it and I unplugged all the "leased" cable boxes and drove them to the Comcast building and they had a giant mailbox with a spring bottom. Shoved them frickers in the slot and drove off feeling like I won. I didn't. But it did on that drive home.
Oh the bright side she didnt talk about grandma's precious vase imported from Italy 🤐
Seriously though this was heartbreaking. This poor young woman is so deeply sunken into that world of delusion. It's downright enraging the lengths people will go to to avoid shaking the boat.
The Huxley bit was hilarious though. A rival sci-fi author and seeker of mysticism. Well done Reese! 😂
Yeah she compared her to a vase, a child, a teenager and a puppy. What a loser
So let me get this straight…basically she said that Reese needs to manage her expectations bc clearly expecting to not be beat with a fax machine, choked, disowned by your father and sexually harassed/assaulted are expectations that are way too high. Also, Reese should just get over it bc it happened 20 years ago and besides she never experienced anything like that in her 12 years, so obviously things have changed, so there’s absolutely no reason to keep “complaining” about it. 🤦🏽♀️ I mean wow….these people are really ethical pieces of work…..
@mirandawells9348
Yep. Basically, that's what she's saying! "Get over it", " What's your problem?", etc....
The more I think about it, the end of the call said it all. When Reese says that she expected better, especially from high ranking officials and that they should be held at a higher standard, sopheia literally tells her that she has high expectations. If that doesn’t say Scientology is a piece of shit, I don’t know what does
You forgot to mention how REESE did something to “pull it in”-the biggest bug up my butt is victim-blaming that gives abusers a FREE PASS,even a pat on the back by CoS
How they dance around it ! Amazing training in distraction and bait/switch
Thank you both for sharing your stories and truths. I was a Scientologist back in the old days (early 70s) at the founding church in DC. I went as far as ot3 and became an auditor. I learned what I needed to and left.
It is interesting to hear the old terms and hear how things have changed. Keep up the reality.
Reese, you're absolutely right to want justice for what you have experienced. As a 12 year member of the sea org, this woman is so far in the cult she can't see how wrong it is. You are talking to another victim of a cult who has been taught to ignore that voice screaming for justice. Her reaction is an example of the non physical violence that scientology forces upon its victim. She's not capable of recognizing the reality of your experience. I am so happy that you are no longer in such a destructive place!
I love these calls. This one gives tremendous insight into how frustrating it must be to get these calls as a public Scientologist. They are only asking these questions to engage her because they have or should know this already from the other calls and sessions
They keep trying to say its been "so long ago" or alluding to that, but you know their same varied response of "get over it" would happen to victims even an hour after an abuse - because they've done it to you.
Until Sophia can get to the point that Amy did, as have so many others, asking herself: "WHY am I defending the indefensible?", ... she will continue in her cognitive dissonance.
Aaron I’m so happy you and Reese have found each other. You are the perfect person to help her navigate the exit of Scientology. I’ve never been a Scientologist but it’s always fascinated and concerned me. From the disconnection of one’s child to go on a boat to work and God knows what else. To the trauma that takes affect the whole time you’re in and there after. Hello Government and Law Enforcement pay attention. Reese you’re great and true to yourself and with these recordings and Aaron’s skills 😊😊you are both making a difference and a service by getting this out there. Love both your channels!
38:33 I cannot believe she just said that!! You clearly said you were a child when that attack happened. Who cares if you did say something to provoke it. You were a child. Really sick that scientology has turned this woman into someone who thinks that type of justification is okay..😢
Baggage, questions, confusions 😕 seriously 😐 😳
Reese, you ROCK! EFF THEM ❤
These recordings are absolutely facsinating!
I mean this in the most Southern way possible: oh, bless her heart.
I am actually under the suspicion that why she asked if you scream at your son because they can use that as fair game material.
You know this phone call could have been done in 15 minutes if she wasn’t on repeat mode…😂😂😂😂…❤ 🇬🇧
OMG! That chick annoyed the crap out if me. You gave her heck. I would have hung up on her. Reese, you were great. You have no reason to feel guilty or bad for this lady. Ugh....You are flourishing and prospering without these idiots !
I’m honestly shocked that you continue this conversation when she was getting so inappropriately personal. “Do you scream at him?” what in the world?!
Great podcast and Reese looks fantastic. No one can say she's in pajamas now. I love her look. Aaron thank you for sharing your videos. I can relate to how Reese is being treated and those phone calls made me tear up. The mental anguish is so much to bear and all the gaslighting and love bombing is sick but she's not alone. She has our SPTV family and a lot of friends on her side. My hat goes off to you Aaron for helping those of us who have to deal with the same thing regardless of what Cult we have been in. It's a lot for anyone to go through. For me, the shunning was the worst part. So glad she's out and also good that she has you to help her "us" along with meeting a stranger. (Ourselves).
Reese I did acupuncture for chronic migraines..I was 46 nothing worked, until then. 16 years now…zero headaches..ZERO. I haven’t had to go to acupuncture since either. Give it a try..it’s painless. I am so enjoying this channel and your conversations .
“Cleaning up broken vases” 😂😂😂
Of course you feel guilty
That’s part of the "game"
What’s so beautiful about you R is that you have feelings
Compassion
And empathy.
Hopefully this will help Sophia EXIT
These people are not normal omg how could you be in this CULT
Nope 😠 don’t feel bad for making this call public. She did absolutely nothing for you. It’s appalling 😮
If that Scientology freaky woman responds "COOOL!!" one more time, I'm going to puke!! At no point does this woman ever tell her to please, write the assault info & description down & give it to her immediately so that the proper people can be notified & disciplined. 😳 UNBELIEVABLE for a "normal" human, but totally okay behavior for Scientologists! 😮 😳 Total Freaks. {And NO! SHE DOES NOT WANT A SESSION!!!}
This conversation reminds me of the Duggar family's letters to the judge pleading for leniency on behalf of their most execrable and mediocre son after he was found guilty of only some of the misery he has spread to others in his wasted life... reading all the hard-to-believe testimony in these letters to the judge from that TV clan about how Josh is an average father who talks to his kids sometimes and like, works a job and also isn't in any debt, the impression emerges is that this cult-like family sincerely believe that while the bar for male behavior in the IBLP is on the _floor_ , it must be _even lower_ among those who don't mesh w their legalistic Bible-worshipping conception of 'Jesus.' They think if "the world" is evil, their golden boy w the punchable face must be really something as he's leading his grotesque life, and a description of his doing banal and unremarkable things will just _knock the judge's socks off!_
I think this Sea Org lady asks if Reese "like, screams at" her 13 y o son not only because screaming is normal in the church, but also because it sounds like they assume those without 'the tech' in their lives are hapless fvckups with no idea how to live or function in society.
Ironic, since the more of a scientologist one is, the less equipped they seem to be to interact socially w the real world...
(In the unlikely event anyone thinks I'm being too hard on the oldest Duggar child and his disturbing parents, , I'll clarify that while I have no experience w the IBLP, I have too much experience w legalistic x-tian fundamentalists, and I don't appreciate their deciding I'm 'not really x-tian' if I disagree w them, particularly when they use 'religious conviction' as an excuse to avoid accountability for sin/crimes, or to neglect their children... looped it back to scientology and my ongoing SPTV enthusiasm! Yes!!)
Yes, the Duggars are what my daughter calls psycho-Xtians. I understand the ex-Scientologists rejecting mainstream Christianity, but it breaks my heart. I pray for them everyday to find peace and comfort, and maybe one day be open to hear the good news of our Saviour Jesus Christ.
It seems to me that as soon as people decide to read this script of Hubbard they immediately get hypnotized and forget the law of the lands!!!!
For some that is actually true after their very first Auditing session, when they are trying to find your "ruin".
This so-called "Chaplin" does not give a damn how Reese was feeling about the way she was treated.
Never in the history of the Sea Org has anyone said out loud "Hey does this person have a legitimate reason to despise Scientology, Scientologists, and it's culture??" Never happened. It ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS comes down to the person complaining BEING "the problem". That they always have hidden crimes against Scientology. That they weren't "ethical enough". Or they're "PTS" or "Suppressive" or yada yada yada.
Scientology is allowed to take no L's by order of Hubbard. And anyone being "reasonable" (a horrible crime in Scientology) enough to accept that the problem is in house, would be immediately burnt and buried.
If Sophia said *"oh my god, if someone did that to my teenage daughter, I would have called the cops and had them thrown in jail!!!"* , she would have been either RPF'd or declared and kicked out of the Sea Org. For just that. For saying the most simple, basic-level-empathy display of compassion and understanding.
Scientology is *not* a religion. It is only PRETENDING to be a religion to keep the authorities away from their money and resources.
Scientology is a societal structure cult that attempts to undermine the world around it.
Luckily, it has self-destructive tendencies built right into it. So there's no chance it will get much bigger anymore.
In addition to stunted growth, they should be held accountable and loose tax exempt status.
One of few good things about internet is exposure of Scientology’s cult
@peachpi4025 Yeah, totally but... to be honest... I don't give a FUUUCK about their tax-exempt status. The last place I want their resources going to is the Pentagon.
Rather... I believe their entire criminal operations should be seized. Their assets frozen and completely liquidated. And every dollar given entirely to the children they exploited, and their victims of "Fair Game". In what I would call a satisfactory attempt to help heal the lives destroyed by Scientology.
Anything less than that is *not* justice.
Hopefully, if Leah's suit is taken the whole way, it will open the doors for a class action suit where this would be possible.
What's "take no Ls" mean ?
@@debbiedebbie9473 L = a lose
Hubbard didn’t allow Scientology to loose or admit to loosing
It’s a CULT CULT CULT! Take down the cos off the buildings and put CULT
This breaks my heart.
This whole call is sooooooooo cool. Awesome! ):
You should have said “ Dismantle the whole organisation”…” I want em all arrested” “ I wanna remove an appendage ( hand / balls )…😂…”
The Insanity Roundabout, that is Scientology…!!!! ❤u Reese & Aaron 🇬🇧
its so interesting that the call is about fishing for information.
I knew a Scientologist here in KC in early 2000s. He got out but got beat up a few times first. We passed by the building & we’re freaking out. Lights on but It looked empty
She keeps bringing up it was 20 years ago!
You guys are so hilarious together!!
This phone call was a major fishing expedition. She asked about everything she could think of, and pauses like shes taking notes. Then she says "got it" after she wrote it. Is she going to include the notes in her report? Lol
Aaron and Reese you guys are the best.. ❤😂
Edit: I just got to the 1 hour mark..
Oh my god Reese, I'm so sorry for Huxley's dad.
I hope and pray that one day this cult will be stopped and people held accountable for their evil behaviours.
This needs to be stopped asap, David M needs to be in prison!!!!!
im with Aaron haha every afternoon is morning for me
I can't believe that Reese was able to stay on that call for as long as she is. God bless you Reese.
super interesting video as usual, craziest ring i have EVER seen though
Thank you for your experience
So, if you do something evil, it isn't you doing it, but if something evil is done to you, you are responsible for "drawing" that evil thing in. Interesting ...
Reese, don’t feel guilty about exposing any of these people. Remember it’s all a sham
When I was a kid there was a scientology building across street from my elementary. We always were curious because it seemed so secretive and only had few cars there. The building was sold and turned into a house. It was listed for a million in a neighborhood of ww2 homes in TN lol. I still want see what it looks like inside.
I absolutely love Reese's energy already am a big fan. I have been listening to the calls and i wanted to ask if Reese ever considered the thought that the reason they can't deal with issues she brought up (the abuse) is because one of the main beliefs is that they have the tech to make ppl more ethical and so they wouldn't be able to go up on the bridge if they weren't getting better. It's circular reasoning and essentially you telling them these things happen is making them brain fart they can't accept the idea that some monster got thru because if one did then the tech doesn't work so therefore the fact that they have gone up and been audited/secchecked etc must have solved the problem. I think that line of thinking may be responsible for alot of abuses. Essentially you go up the bridge by them okaying it and reality doesn't matter it will be swept under the rug if reality conflicts with where scientology says they are. I also wanted to mention how you were speaking about how you wouldn't want Huxley messed with by pi's/scientology. I just wanted to ccaution you about directly referencing your worst nightmares publically because I'd imagine you're basically giving them ideas on what would be the best way to fair game you. They love to exploit your fear, continue to be brave darling you're one of my new bright spots thank you for your sweetness. My fiancé and my 4 Siamese and one regular cat send our love. You need to get a facebook page so i can friend request you i'd love to be your friend.
I feel like she keeps checking it was 20 years ago as if she’s checking if it’s past the statue of limitations!😦