Shawn Ray's War On Dorian Yates | Bodybuilding Chronicles
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2018
- A first hand account of Shawn Ray's eternal struggle against the mighty Dorian Yates.
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Dorian Yates was known as "The Shadow" and for two very good reasons. One was because all other bodybuilders had to live in his shadow during his prime over 6 Mr. Olympia wins. The second was because he would train in such privacy that no one knew what to expect when he appeared on stage. He kept pushing the boundaries. He kept winning. And each year's revealed physique continued to shock and awe.
No one knows this better than Shawn Ray. He was one of the very talented bodybuilders forced to live in Dorian Yates' shadow and with every competition Shawn pressed harder and fought stronger to try and defeat him. In the premiere episode of Bodybuilding Chronicles, Shawn Ray reveals every beat and moment of his rivalry with Dorian Yates, exposing first hand accounts of what happened backstage within the history context of Dorian Yates' epic reign as a champion. Ultimately revealing just how important Dorian Yates was not only for the sport as a whole - but for Shawn Ray's career as a bodybuilder. Watch the premiere episode above!
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Shawn should be incredibly proud of everything he accomplished, he was one of the top guys in the 90’s which is undoubtedly the greatest era the sport has ever seen
I have doubts.
When everyone bashes Shawn for his self-centered, narcissistic, behavior, they need to watch this touching tribute Dorian. I was very moved by it. Thank you Shawn
Yeah you noticed he Said "dorian yates physique was nothing to me" "he shouldn't have won so many titles"
HE says one bad thing about him according to his physique then he says something good about him in another aspect so he doesn't look like an asshole
bucel cpsbr you are an asshole
People don't like Shawn Ray because he tells it like it is and bodybuilders (and bodybuilding fans) have fragile ego's, so they lash out. I say this as a wannabe bodybuilder myself.
@@user-px1cr6fu5l Pay attention to what Shawn Ray is saying
You bring up a very good point. Ii seems like everyone has become sensitive babies
Shawn Ray's self-analysis was profoundly deep. I've always thought that he seemed intelligent. However, it wasn't until I came upon this video that I realized how intelligent, respectable, and humble he truly is.
That’s the best I’ve heard from Shawn Ray. Paying homage to Dorian Yates recognizing that Dorian helped Him to be at his very best through competition. Love it.
Shawn Ray gets an A+ for humility, well done sir.
Shawn is the biggest piece of garbage. He is a piece of shit.
@@eugenemalush9284 Why?
@@kevgh3869 Because of how he treated my friend.
@@elsenort3164 Because of how he treated my female friend.
@@elsenort3164 You are correct. She willfully allowed him to use her for sex. Multiple times. You are correct. I just don't think a real gentleman would do that.
I’m 54 years old and to me this was the golden age of bodybuilding, a great time.
Who cares
Totally agree! I’m 45 and grew up reading those magazines cover to cover. Kids these days join a gym and immediately start roids. No building a base or anything.
Hell yeah, i remember when Dorian burst onto the scene, reading those muscle magazines we were like look at this guy. I followed much of Dorians training advice especially cutting back on sets and putting more into the sets i was doing and it helped in getting me stronger and bigger.
Richard Cardone 66-75;)
@@Enkelriktad123 the era when nobody has leg...
I'm even a bigger fan of Shawn Ray after this interview. The rivalry between these two back then was epic. Nice to know they settled there differences and are now great friends.. Awesome interview..
I started bodybuilding in 1999 and it was due to Shawn Ray. One of the most complete physiques ever.
I agree! Shawn really had that complete grainy physique
@@KletoReese come on. complete physique must not be 5'5 tall, narrow and long torso on the ugly short legs. one of the worst proportions and ugliest structural flaws in bodybuilding
@@levanmuradashvili2769 so your perspective is based on you condemning his short stature not on his overall physique development. Get the fuck outta here.
@@KletoReese exactly. What an idiot. Shawn Ray had on the best physiques on stage
@@levanmuradashvili2769 this shit is so gay lol.
Shawn Ray, thank you for being the guy that you are. This sport needs honest people like you!
Yes honest people, using illegal substances
@deny73 Man, shut the hell up. Why watch it if you don't agree with it? We all know they use PEDs. Nothing new Einstein
@deny73 Man, shut the hell up. Why watch it if you don't agree with it? We all know they use PEDs. Nothing new Einstein
Beautiful retrospective by Ray here.
He's still still second to none for aesthetics.
Bob Paris?
I' m not and because...
Shaun Rhoden?
I wouldn't argue with Bob Paris. It just depends on how much mass you allow.
I'm a big fan of Serge Nubret for aesthetics as well.
For Olympians, Dex at his peak.
Flex Wheeler was more aesthetic.
None of the current guys have the small waist and ripped obliques of Shawn Ray.
He wouldn’t place now lmao
Who cares.. Shawn was a midget
Or the musculature of Dorian yates which is why shawn is a loser
If they would only let people with small waist win mr olympia would be dead years ago ... I think that was the time to change the era and it went wrong yes. But don‘t forget people are not machines
@@ramtrucks721 The People on the stage nowadays arent that tall either. Most of em.
Shawn Ray is a great ambassador for this sport. Salute to you
Hate the man all you want, Shawn ALWAYS speaks his mind regardless..salute!!
Continually cheats on his wife & family...great guy..not !
Still sounds like a sissy
No one likes him
Not Bitter in any Way!
Shawn said nothing hateful or bitter, he was speaking candidly.
Every word Shawn said had me glued. A real insight into these guys minds and how they thought.
I have a new found respect for Shawn after seeing this. It takes an incredible humility to lay it all out like he does here. I grew up on 90s bodybuilding and, now I’m my 40s, it does me a lot of good to see the legends of those years continuing to grow as human beings and MEN.
What a class act. Terrific storytelling by Shawn Ray.
The most humble interview of Shawn I’ve ever seen. Nice to see that after 20 years of perspective, he is able to get past the bitterness of defeat and really appreciate the journey he and Dorian shared.
This was great! Would love to hear Dorian's version of the story and also the takes of Levrone (who also placed second behind Yates on two occasions) and Wheeler (perhaps in relation to Ronnie who was probably more a nemesis to him than Yates).
I always overlooked Shawn until i started watching your videos bro! Keep it up.
what I find very interesting is that Levrone and Flex never complained about losing to Dorian Yates, yet they surely bitched about being defeated by Ronnie in 98-02., and keep in mind in many ways both Flex and Kevin where in their prime during Yates' reign.
Shawn should have beat Dorain at least once, that is a fact , shawn is a legend for sure
210 lb will never beat 260 lb in a size dominated sport
other than front double biceps and abs *thigh shawn isnt beating Yates in any mandatory , he might get close in the side chest but the size factor matters
TheLusianPopa Kevin yes in 95 but Flex actually never...in 93 he was still a kid to the sport...98 Flex beats 93 Flex more easy than Dorian actually beated him in 93.
Shawn ray is a character that’s essential for the story of body building.. a complete mind of his own and full love for the sport
The amount of work these guys put into bodybuilding is astounding. To even place is such an accomplishment.
Shawn has an amazing way of describing and detailing his competition with Mr Yates....i remember having pictures of Shawns on my walls in room when i would work out....you deserved an Olympia win señor ....✊✊
That was very well said by Shawn Ray! A great ambassador for the sport of Bodybuilding.
Much respect Shawn. Spoken like a true champion! 💪🏼
That’s a great hommage to Yates made by Ray. Really enjoyed this video. They are two great bodybuilders.
Shawn Ray you have my respect
Shawn Ray is a sore loser and whiner. Dorian was bigger and just plain out muscled Shawn Ray. ( The short little guy)
@@razoredge6476 Lol 'little'
Tommy Wiseau “midget”
That turned out to be very positive.
Shawn’s 3 inches taller he wins 5 or 6 Olympia’s.
If 212 existed in their day... Him and Lee priest would be fighting for a title every year.
@@Nobodyyoucarabout Shawn would have smoked Lee in the 212,, Shawn would have more trouble with Flex Lewis than Lee Priest.
@@mikebird5148 Lee Would be able to put on less size in the 212 and go for more aesthetics.
@@mikebird5148 and no lee smokes flex
@@Nobodyyoucarabout Flex would beat Lee in front lat spread, side chest, both rear shots, most muscular, front double would be close and so would abs and thigh, but the thing with Flex is, he's WAY more consistent, always shredded, Lee was usually soft from the rear....
You just had to be there! Dorians physique can’t be judged on video! People gasp in the first three rows when Dorian came out in 93 at 257 peeled to the bone, hard as granite! No one had ever seen anyone like that. It was shocking! He didn’t look human and every other man looked average standing next to him. In person, he looked inhuman and like he was from another planet. I feel for Ray. Dorian was so dominant even injured he was unbeatable, especially from the back! People say Shawn got robbed. He was never robbed. Dorian was that extraordinary!
Awesome episode, very insightful! I grew up watching these two 👌😃
Well done Shawn, I enjoyed that. Both you, Levrone and Flex saying that without Dorian, you wouldn’t have been the bodybuilders you were. He pushed himself harder, set new benchmarks for what was possible, and forced the rest of the 90’s golden era to lift their game to try to beat him.
That's one of the best interviews Shawn has ever done. I respect him so much more for being truly open and honest (as always). Good man, that was a great retrospective look into his career ❤️.
Nothing but huge respect to Shawn Ray. Look at the way he is putting those kind words to what happened during his war with DY , to after life when he met DY personally.
I have never heard someone build such high castles of praises for another bodybuilder. Kudos to Shawn Ray! 🙌🏻
Great video Sugar Shawn Ray...I grew up watching you, Kevin, Flex, Chris Comier and Dorian competing against each other. Your era will never be duplicated!
that the reason kai green stop going to the Olympia when they pick a guy u can cone how good u will not win
Shawn is a true champion and on any given day he could beet anyone physically but he is easily the most articulate and one of if not the best at breaking down the difference of each competitors best and worst shape and judging it from someone who knows what’s up better than anyone alive
Big Respect to Shawn Ray after watching him talk. He's all class
he is just a jealous ass btich
Lovin' the more respectful and modest Shawn Ray!! Shawn had such beautiful lines, flawless abs and overall bodybuilder outline shape!
I have new found respect for Shawn after this. Great video. 2 great champions.
Being a man is not how big you are, how tough you are or how much you own. Being a man is realizing your achievements and acknowledging your mistakes and being humble when anger rages inside you. That's being a man. Shawn Ray you are the man.
Shawn Ray was an aesthetic genetic gift. Everything was symmetrical.
96 Shawn was pretty impressive!
SHAWN! Once again You have proved Yourself to be a Champion, and a Gentleman. Your stunningly supremely sculpted body speaks for itself.
And, Your outstanding graciousness toward Dorian Yates is awesome. I think both Yourself and Dorian are a tremendous credit to our Sport.
Again, I thank You for showing us what a true, disciplined, and confident Champion is all about.
BRAVO!
He was average, thought he was the best but was never good enough to look like Lee Priest and that was always a sore point wasn't it Shawn!!!
You cannot deny how symmetrical and shredded this guy was
Shawn Ray, a living human sculpture!... He was a piece of art in his bodybuilding days!
Great one champ. It takes a King to acowledge the other one’s crown. Rest assured, we will always salute you as the most complete package that was overlooked by the Weider money game. We salute tou Shawn !!
Shawn one of the best most pleasing and flowing physique of all time.....
Great story Shawn,,I grew up a huge fan of Dorian, and modeled much my training and work ethic from him. Love to hear you both came away with a deeper understanding of things.Your both true champions. All the best.
I loved this. What a true class act Shawn. To be so honest and respectful was amazing. To speak honestly publically is so much a breath of fresh air in this modern era of social media. I'm a fan of Dorian and of you Shawn. A true pro brother.
Woah. Now this is quality content.
Agree
Amazing how Shawn grew as a person. People can learn from this testimony..
No matter what, your the best bodybuilder, you didn't scared by heavier physics, you stood on stage with your symetry while you getting bigger. didn't get injured like all those guys. you have positive mind and you stayed humble, you and lee labrada, were a model for the sport until today.
Physique*
I did not expect this story to take that route. Hats off to Shawn Ray and Generation Iron for making us see the different side of someone's story.
Beautiful replay ! This is why you cannot ignore Shawn
Pavan amen to that brotha!
Yates looked a mess on at least one of those shows.
Yeah okay 😂
Stay off the crack 👍
94 and 97 were his worst years to me. But 93 he was the best all time.
DY is king
You are a twat.
Thanks for NOT giving up and continue for the fans that support and believe in you.
To some of us YOU are Mr. Olympia!!!!
Shawn Ray and Dorian Yates are both classics
What a classy classy dude, that's a true sportsman, and someone to aspire to. Shawn Ray didn't make excuses even in the face of loss, he still pushed and came back as hard as he could each time and didn't give up. Even though he never achieved Mr.Olympia at least he can say, that he fought and tried as hard as he could, in my opinion he didn't fail, not when you go as hard as he did. Shawn Ray, I salute you.
This interview was awesome. Despite the criticism against Shawn Ray's big mouth his words in this talk were incredibly profound and insightful. Also his 1996 and 1997 physiques pinnacles of aesthetic bodybuilding.
I agree the year dorian yates tricep was injured he shouldn't have won ie: no symmetry! But the other years he
was just the "best"
I think Shawn got screwed a couple of times
Doriens lats and back weren’t matched until Ronnie in his prime!!!💪🏼💪🏼
Yes he did!
@@Elbowspurs I always thought dorian looked sloppy from the front tho. But olympias are won from the back, always have been.
Xx Yy agreed. Nasser looked way better than Dorian. Shawn was too small and his delt width wasn’t there. He looked narrow from the front. Amazing physique but not big and thick enough for the ifbb. Plus he ran his mouth all the time. Bitching about everything. Yeah that’ll win ya shows lol
Bodybuilding is about being complete.there is no reason or anyway in hell a bodybuilder should win a contest on having one major body part.ray definitely got pushed aside in what is mostly a popular contest rather than a bodybuilding contest.yates had a great back but that shouldn't be enough.ray won those two runner up and as long as the fans(not Yates fans cuz to them he can do no wrong even win with one arm smh)know that is the truth then fuck the judge's n their popularity bullshit so called contest.
Such a beautiful description of what was a war between the two big Bodybuilders.
He may have never been Mr.O, but he has the physique that I’d most like to have.
Shawn lost because he didn't have a gut
he lost because he was too narrow from the back poses, compaired with Dorian , fact !
And also he was a lot smaller, as in a shorter guy
dorian concentrated on getting big . Shawn perfected arse licking and bitching.
He lost because he wasn’t better. He wasn’t better than Dorian, Kevin or Flex
How could Dorian win with one arm in 94. It was stolen from Shawn. And Im Dorian’s fan. Total robbery.
Wow.Such a great story from a great person.Much respect!!
That’s a beautiful piece of history, well told!
Being a bodybuilder back then must have been awesome since there was no social media. You would have just been focused 100% on your training and diet without the pressures of everything you see on instagram, fb, etc. I'm gonna deactivate my social media for 3 months and go on a mass gain phase ;)
I might do that too 👍🏼😁
Lol idk why but that reminded me of when quagmire discovered internet porn
There were magazines, kid. We still closely followed...Shawn was my fav back then. Still shadow was also big time favorite
This is the first time i every here Shawn Ray voice i am now 48 years old . I use to read M&F , Flex , Iron Man magazine i still have my first M&F magazine 1990 and a lot more magazine with theses great bodybuilder . I train like these old school bodybuilder with little new generation bodybuilder training. You are all Champion and Legend For Life
🏋️🙏😎
The more I watch all the body builders story’s , and how truest dedicated the were to the sport and for the goal they had .
Greatly well stated by Shawn Ray. I for one salute them both for being awesome athletes and great ambassadors of the sport of bodybuilding. They have influenced many competitors whom have stepped foot on the Olympia stage and beyond!!👊😎
Sean, you're a True Gentleman!!! I've been a Fan of yours for a very long time. I really always admired you!! You should've been Mr. Olympia 3 times I would say. You are Mr. Olympia in my book!!!!
That's awesome. It takes a big man to take a step back and admit they were wrong. Love it.
great vid, great job telling the story Shawn. Love hearing the real stories, warts & all.
Asthetically Shawn was almost unmatched but it’s just that Dorian looked like shredded rock. Even with a bit of bloat on his gut I think it was honestly because his abs were just that brick hard.
double back Dorian mentioned that when the body building pros started to use insulin they began to bloat out on the stomach & he retired shortly afterwards.
Flex was more aesthetic, at least just as much. and Kevin should have won cuz he had the perfect balance IMO. No back, but meh. Best front.
@@Nobodyyoucarabout what a story, Mark)
Yeah, and about as shapely as rock. The guys build was crap. Yeah, he was big. But bodybuilding was supposed to me more than a full blown all out drug contest to see who can pack the most muscle on, symmetry be damned.
@@Nobodyyoucarabout any of them were better than Dorian.
Awesome video. Your a brilliant story teller
I am amazed and understading... This is one the best shout-outs I have heard to this date. Like a soldier finding MOTIVATION to kill as the battle went on and yet able to see the pospective in later life - to see past hate, battle or fear (Whatever motivated) and give a shout out like that. Respect, you where still one of the best in the sport and you DID challenge the champ and made everybody look to your direction. Great speach from a great contender.
Mr. Ray, you are one of the best representative of the sport. Thanks for your perspective. You are awesome. Please keep doing what you do.
This is beautiful; especially coming from Shawn Ray. I believe Dorian Yates respects him as well
Awesome video shawn keep em comin
Very good video. Loved how it ended so positive. Both these guys inspired me to lift weights at a young age.
Mr. Ray, thanks for all your contributions to the sport.
Bravo Shawn Ray, you show high class sportsmanship here...congratulations!!
When I seen Dorian's front lat pose, that chest was ever prominent.... he just made me wanna train...
I’m so far away from being a bodybuilder and two weeks ago RUclips suggested a bodybuilding video which eventually led me to this video. Bodybuilding is more interesting than I’d thought it would be. That rivalry seemed intense. Movie worthy IMO.
Wow...Shawn leaves me speachless. Awesome content. Thank you.
Shawn Ray's is well spoken
Thank you President Biden.
Great video! Really enjoyed it, gave me a bigger perspective of how it was being Shawn Ray and Dorian Yates during those years. Two legends!
how do you think Labrada felt?
+Blain Jones but Labrada was losing to Haney, Haney leaves Yates in the dumps. Can't compare Dorian to Lee Haney cause that's a humongous insult to 8 time Mr O
This is a video I will watch on a regular basis for the rest of my life. Well done GI and Shawn Ray, and thank you! 💪
Amazing clip! And what a turn at the end! This speaks alot about how it is possible to build bridges.
Only a real champion could ever make such a tribute to another especially in such humbling situations through time! You Rock Shawn and you are a true champion for sure! Ps. Maybe your the trainer Nick Walker needs for the edge he's fighting for... What a great video! Godspeed
What a great video. Need more content like this and less about social media superstars.
Chris Cirillo agreed
Shawn, write a book, a history of those glorious ages of bodybuilding, you have the talent, the words,the knowledge and many more experiences that few people on earth do in this lovely sport.
Excellent summation of a tense period in both their lives... I'm happy they each became 'civilised' and are great friends nowadays...
👍🏼🏋🏽♀️✊🏼👍🏼
This was great
the best generation iron yet - I have all the magazines from this time and am still current - shawn ray an iconic legend even to those outside of the sport - legend
Wow, thanks Shawn Ray, you’re top shelf!
Shawn you are a winner in my eyes ..
You and Dorian were standout bodybuilders and now you are both standout human beings .💪👍🙏
I used to love your symmetry shawn. Brilliant.
Shawn had a perfect vacuum into a V taper stance
Great stuff!!!! Im glad i lived thru the last great decade of bofybuilding...luv both these guys!
Awesome video!!!
I am glad I was fortunate enough to see this...