Sea to Summit Reactor Sleeping Bag Liner (First Look Review)
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- This is Trev's first look review of his new Sea To Summit Reactor Sleeping Bag Liner.
Its that time of year as the temperatures will start dropping and we ask how we do stay warm whilst camping in the colder seasons?
To help increase the thermal efficiency of his summer sleeping bag without having to pack an oversized sleeping bag which takes up a third of his backpack, Trev has found a great technique which includes the inclusion of a sleeping bag liner as featured in the following video • Lightweight Budget Dow...
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Morning Trev, RUclips here. Nummit or something.
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Love mine - take it all the time now. I have switched to a thinner, lighter sleeping bag with the thermolite together they weigh not much more than my old bag on its own. but on really hot nights I can use just the thermolite on its own, intermediate temps just the bag on its own or both together if its a bit more chilly. As you say, you can add a lightweight bivvy bag to make it much warmer still.
Yea, it gives me some more options through out the nights - thanks for watching, Rob! Cheers!
Hi Rob - what sort of temperatures have you used this on its own?
I got one of these for my birthday last year and it's been brilliant, without anything to compare it to. I comfortably survived a few sub-zero nights around Cheddar and Snowdonia last year. Along with a 3 season Vango bag.
Forward thinking is to pair it with my down quilt, which can be a bit chilly even when it's not cold.
All the best with yours. I'm sure it'll serve you well, Trev.
I know that Nath really rated his and I had so many people recommend it when I did my down bag review that I thought it must be worth a punt. Thanks for watching!
Love the vid Trev. Loved the comment on just throwing it in the sleeping bag to save space. Throw all the beers in as well eh ! I've got the Rab silk lined one ( whit woo) and it does make a difference, just a bit more restrictive. Have a good evening Sir.👍
Yea, shove it all in there lol. Thanks for watching and your feedback, cheers!!
Thanks mate, good review. I want one! Si
Hey buddy I have this myself and used it a lot in the colder weather and it worked brilliant definitely made a difference in the winter sleeping set up 👍🏼
Cool, thats good to hear, thanks!
Seems similar to the snugpak TS1 liner and is brilliant and very light and British made. The Ts1 is great at wicking away moisture if you do get a bit too warm and its warm. If you fold the liner first and then roll to put back in the bag its so much easier
Thanks for the feedback, Emma! I've taken it out twice but not had to use it yet! Hopefully wil fare me well in the winter!
I have the same.one Trev and I rate mine. I didn't think it would make.mucb difference but it did and more importantly it is really nice next to the skin and made it much more cosy in the sleeping bag.
Ideal, Dean - that's good to hear. It certainly does feel much more comfortable than my previous ones. I look forward to testing mine out in the colder months.
Quality gear sea to summit. I have the ether light XT sleeping mat and premium pillow. Really comfy both of them and seem very well made. Will be interesting to see what you’ll think of it when used in anger. I use a 3 season down bag so would be looking at this sort of thing for the winter 👍
Cheers for the feedback, Darren - I will keep you posted as to my experience with this bit of kit. Cheers!
Cheers for that review. Have planned on getting a winter sleeping bag, to extend to wild camping season. This looks a nice potential alternative 👌
Yea, I use a liner in my summer bag and both wrapped in a bivvy - that seemed to work well last year, and packed down a lot smaller than the mahoosive winter bag that I was using!
Love these videos Trev, your enjoying yourself so much and learning from every experi , there brikk , carry on matey
Thanks very much - glad that you are enjoying our content!
I have both the reactor and the extreme, I just use them and a bivy bag most of the time. First time I used the extreme I just used my sleeping bag as a quilt and it was too warm. It was in a swag I must admit out bush with work. I can vouch for them as a good light weight option for increasing comfort on cold nights as we had ice on the swags in the morning so it did get cold overnight. Great piece of kit.
Be good to see you try it in the colder weather trev! 👍
Yea, I look forward to it! Cheers!
I've just changed most of my sleep gear to sea to summit, have the ether lite xt and large pillow , the ember eb11 quilt. Sleep alot better now, the mat is so comfortable, have large but not needed as I'm only 5.10. Move around alot better in the quilt as I'm a side sleeper but no restrictions. Yeah my Thermarest xtherm is no longer used...
Thats great to know tahnks Rich!
I use mine with a down quilt and it adds 3 - 5 degrees warmth, a great liner 👍
Thanks for the review Trev.
No problem, mate 👍
He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy! 🤣👍
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Just purchased one! Love sea-summit gear
That and an aegismax for less than £100 with a lower limit of -2,
Thanks a lot that solved my problem
Exactly what I’m doin
Nice review. I have been looking at that liner. Looks pretty good to add to warmth of a bag/quilt. Crow✌️
Cheers, Crow! It feels comfy, lets just hope it keeps me warm.
Nice I want one to add to my winter system like you said too
Its got to be worth a try to get extra use out of your lighter bags. Thanks for watching!
Nice look at that Trev . Been looking into getting a fleece liner or something like it . Would you still recommend it 🤔 . Take it easy 👍🏕
Very pleasant review, thanks.
Great review Trev, I think that's the best liner I've seen. Has your hair really grown that quick or have you got squirrels living under your hat? Let's hope the "repels odours" part is not false advertising!!!
Haha! I've been eating y crusts - lol.... .No, this was filmed sometime ago - never quite got around to editingg!
Thank you for the review
Looks like a cracking bit of kit!
Yea, seems comfy too. will look forward to trying it out over the winter months.
I'd swear by Sea To Summit. Their Ether Light XT sleeping mat is unbelievably comfy.
Yea, I must have a look at some of their mats, I reckon. Thanks for watching!
I have that liner (maybe the Extreme one); glad I had it when I needed it (I really needed it), but moving forward (better bag and better mat) I won't be using it. I find liners a bit cumbersome, it tangles up when you're inside.
Having said that, a summer bag and this liner add up to less bulk (in the pack) than my 3 season bag, so as a combo for warmer nights and lighter hikes it does work out.
Yea, I was looking for a smaller option than my winter pack which tends to take up a third of my pack, combining my summer bag, a liner and my bivvy seemed to do the trick last winter. Hopefully this liner is better still than the one I was using! Cheers for watching!
Hey Trev, this thing any good? Had a chance to use it yet in lockdown 3? May invest in one as I also have the same sleeping bag (Naturehike lightweight bag) Cheers :)
Debating on the extreme vs the compact plus, which is one grade lower. Lighter and not as long.
The extreme is 6ft 11", while the plus is 6ft. Even though I do want the extreme, it seems as though it'll be very long and annoying.
I'm 5'9, and my bag, isn't that much bigger than me. So it seems the extreme might be a lot of extra fabric at the end. Don't you think
I have no experience of this kind of thing, way out of my price range pal, but I do okay. I wrestle with something in the night so would end up wrapped in like a coil of snake coils. £10 sounds okay £40 way over my price range, but i use an old YHA inner (not the one I had since being 12) and through it in washing when i get home. That goes in my mummy bag when I'm in the hammock.
Yea, this was a little more pricey than I like to fork out but I'd heard good things - thought I'd give it a shot. Thanks for watching!
Sadly Trev, in my experience, these are pretty crap. I bought the Extreme version - 60 quid! - for much the same reasons as you. In the heatwave this summer I bivvy camped on a very modest local hill, lowest night temperature 14 degrees, using a Snugpak Jungle Bag, rated as comfort 7 degrees. This is also pretty crap, but, knowing Snugpak as I do, I realised you can add 10 degrees to that in real terms, and expect the bag to be shite under 17. So I used the Sea to Summit as well, which is supposed to add at least 10 degrees, or 'a season'. I also had on full merino long johns/long sleeved top, AND an Alpkit wool jumper. I still was awake much of the night with the cold. Total rubbish. Yeah it was light in the pack and took up little room. But I was still cold! I'm starting to realise that you can't get performance from sleeping bags without weight and bulk - even when you do spend silly money. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is, sadly. Be interested to hear how you get on. Don't use it from the start of a kip, but call on it when you're chilly in the night - see if it works... cheers. Rich.
i have a berghaus 600 down it packs away small weighs a kilo i dont sleep with long johns etc boxer shorts only toasty all night if anything too warm liners etc stops the heat radiating into the down spend a few quid to stay warm and ultralight kit cheers
keith mclaren I always hear that as an excuse for cold bags - ‘strip off underneath or you stop them doing their job’. I don’t get the science of this approach at all. We’ve been told for many years now that layering is everything. We don’t wear a down jacket against bare skin after all, that would be daft - no, we have appropriate layers between. I think this is just a get out clause to blame the user for bags which are nowhere near as warm as advertised. Sorry!
@@CottonBud my bags not cold the science is the base layer u r wearing traps and slows down heat release which should be going into the down it wont work well thats all im saying its counter intuitive to strip down to be warmer,im quite a cold sleeper myself happy camping
Bloody hell Rich! Wrapped up like that and you still felt the cold? Lol. I'll see how it goes. I did try sleeping in it alone during my first camp out on Dartmoor this season,that was cold but by the time I got back in my down bag as well it did me fine. And I know when we stayed on Cadair Idris at the very start of spring a few years back, Nath was so toasty in his he opened the door of the tent through the night to let some cold in, much to my annoyance because I was f***in freezing lol. I'll see how I find it during the winter,bit it already feels like an improvement to my pollycotton one,tbh. Cheers for commenting
To be honest, the jungle bag is £45, and square, you are not going to get much performance from a 45 quid square sleeping bag. In addition a lot of heat is lost to the ground through your sleeping mat as that is where your bag will be squashed the most, so invest in a good one with an R value of over 5 and/or a thermal break. It can make a big difference. Also a lot depends on how cold a sleeper you are. You dont need weight and bulk, but you do need to invest in quality, and that costs. Waiting until you are chilly before you add a warmer layer is wrong. By the time you are cold you have already let whatever body warmth you had slip away, and then have to expend energy to warm up again, the idea is to keep the warmth in from the start.
I know this is easy to say, but can be hard in practice, but when it comes to the outdoors and staying warm and dry, buy the best quality kit you can get, because if you get cold and wet in the middle of nowhere, you are screwed until you can set fire to somebody elses tent to warm up :-).
I have a few liners and to be honest I stopped using them they tend to twist around and make me feel uncomfortable in my bag hope you have better luck with them Trevor jimmy 😎😎
Yea, I do fidget a fair bit too, so will be interesting to see if this one fares any better as I'm able to pull it up over my head. Thanks for watching!
Hi Trev. I'm thinking of getting one of these to give me some flexibility to a two season summer bag (10deg comfort) if the temperature falls unexpectedly as it can in the UK. I'm interested to know if you have used it much and if you rate it as worth the money? The Extreme one allegedly adds 14deg to the comfort rating as opposed to the 8deg for yours, both claims I feel must be very optimistic! Cheers, Johnny
Hi Johnny. I only used mine once or twice in the end, have not needed it since I bought my oex down winter bag. I was never too sure if it made much of a difference to be honest, although Nath swears by his. Maybe try the extreme version if you want to be more certain. Cheers.
@@SummitOrNothing Thanks Trev - I'll give the Extreme a go. I think I'll do some testing with a backup sleep system before I rely on the numbers! Thanks for the channel and the content the effort is very much appreciated 👍
Good review Trev. Just one question, is wearing a baseball cap compulsory while using it ?
Yes it is. Sideways if you were a child of the 80's!
I hope it keeps you warm and look forward to the review. If you freeze your nuts off, I also look forward to you verbally lashing all the hipsters in comments who said this was good ! Hopefully its not the latter though. xD. Good Luck!
Yea, we will see how I get on - I know Nath rated his, so will be interesting to see. Chees for watching!
When you sealed yourself in the liner, you looked like the 'Witch of Vixen Tor'. 😉
Shall I dress like her when I do that particular Dartmoor tale lol?
@@SummitOrNothing It would be funny to read that Dartmoor tale wrapped in your liner with a torch shining from under your chin.
Perhaps a Halloween special of Dartmoor tales??? 🎃
If it gets wet, it will dry quicker than poly-cotton too. 👍🏼
Oh, that's ideal then.
Good make trev ..ive got the S2S sleeping mate ...the liner looks cracking 👍
Fingers crossed it keeps me toasty!
Cheers for the review. Couple of ideas for cold weather sleeping I use:
1) wear cosy fleece leggings. The thighs lose a lot of heat and keeping the insulation close to the legs is most efficient. Plus, they’re lovely to change into on a cold evening, and if you need to get up in the night you keep your legs warm.
2) Add olive oil or another healthy fat to your food before bed. Digesting fats while asleep generates significant extra internal heat.
Some great tips there thanks, Carl
nice one trev
Cheers Kieth!
Getting one!!
Great stuff! Hope you enjoy it!
What have u been eating mate
I've never known hair grow so quickly
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Haha! Miracle grow on my corn flakes lol
Had to watch it twice, because the most interesting comments distracted me.
Haha!
Good review as always...thanks for sharing. I find sleeping bags a bit restrictive - I also fidget - so adding a liner would make it more so. I suppose I could get a down quilt - less restrictive - but they are expensive and I can't afford it (and my wife wouldn't be happy!). I sleep in merino long johns and a long sleeve T shirt that adds warmth and helps keep the bag clean. If I wake up cold I shove on a down jacket and that usually works for me. I do, of course, have, and use, a sleep mat in case any one is wondering. It's an Alpkit Cloud Base and in so far as I am aware doesn't have a published R value but works very well. Thinking of getting a thin, solid foam mat to go underneath the Cloud Base in colder weather. Cheers. Ken
That hair do grow quick dunnit
What he did was cut his pre- covid baby hair. Now his adult hair will grow real fast, until he hits puberty.
Nailed it there, George lol.
I eat my crusts