A lot of hunters have had tremendous success with all kinds of camo and in some cases, no camo at all when hunting deer. But, that’s not what this video is about. This video is about what is the best camo overall that is optimized for deer vision and how they see us. It’s not about what you can get away with. But most of all, this video is not here to tell you what you must or should wear. It’s here to show you things that could possibly amplify your chances. Good luck!
Surprised you haven’t used “All Predator Calls” kill/sapper suits. I bow hunt on the ground hunt with no blind and I’m also a photographer and I routinely get animals within 2-3yds of me. Having the proper camo, especially on your face makes a world of difference. Thankfully a couple years back AP Calls took my advice and made a fall timber coloration suit. For years they just had basically one for green environments and one for tan. I always tweak them to fit my exact environment, but having nice bases to start from definitely makes it easy.
Yeah it used to work wearing red flannel and jeans . We wear blaze orange during gun season. So what you are saying is meaningless. What works to kill a deer is not the same as fooling a Boone Buck with a bow . And why are you walking around that much hunting? Stay STILL as STILL as possible and do not move around if you want to kill giants. The difference between being an effective hunter and being a trophy hunter comes down to the smallest details like camo. Wind control and all that is more important generally of course but to close the gap between harvesting a deer and harvesting a trophy deer are the details that are not obvious like wind and movement. What works for you in your area will not work everywhere. Which is why putting more time and investment into quality camo and sent control is uber important for getting world class deer. If you took the time to invest in better concealment clothing, sent controls and you stopped walking around so much you would improve your ability to shoot big bucks year in and year out. Find the zone, get the wind in your favor and use the clothing that matches the terrain you are covering and your success will turn into super success. Good luck out there .
@@theeverydaybowhunter What he is not getting is the3 difference between trophy deer hunting and harvesting deer with a rifle. Making big deer harvesting the norm takes investment into the details and sticking to a program that works. The basics will work in most gun hunting situations as deer move around because of woods traffic more than any other way. When trying to get a shot inside of 20 yards with a stick with feathers on it you want to use all the tools one can to succeed at a high level . The difference is hunting vs harvesting. Hell I can drive around all season long and shoot a buck and fil my tags off the road if I want to . That does not make me a good hunter though.
@@jesusoftheapes I've met some idiots through comments on RUclips over the years but you are the champion supreme. I couldn't even read all your long-winded BS that you tried to reply. What's awesome is you got that worked up over a comment and read 10 times more into it than was meant to be. You really need to get a life buddy lol
A really great camo discussion… as a young hunter I stood silently against a hedgerow in blue jeans and a camo jacket as three bucks passed within 15 yards of me until they winded me. While standing there I was thinking to myself, “these writers have no idea what they are talking about”. Fast forward 10+ years and I realized the waist deep grasses I was standing in hid the blue jeans and my jacket matched what could be seen. With time we all learn a lot. I don’t have 5 or 6 deer I can ask “Does this camo make me look like anything scary?” Capturing deer’s reactions seems to be the only way we can estimate that response. Thanks to the researchers that did the work instead of our trial and error way (6-8 weeks of the year) that takes many seasons to start to figure things out. Really great discussion… still learning at 68…
Just my opinion here... movement is the 90%, camo is the 10% when it comes to deer vision. I love camo because it looks cool but between sound, movement and smell (wind), it's overrated when it comes to putting deer on the ground. I understand that some camos may be better than others, don't get me wrong.
@@Powerdad50000 yeah, like I said in the beginning of the video, movement is number one, but the right camo will allow you to get away with more. It’s about stacking the odds in your favor. Thanks!
Something to be aware of is primitive style Highlands hunting. The Scots would use capes made out of their tartans and it was super effective at breaking up patterns even though it's what we would call plaid. I think your point on UV light reflection is key and the fact that the weft and weave of traditional fabrics actually does have some of that dispersion because there is micro patterns inside of the macro patterns. Good stuff!
IMHO ASAT camo is one of the best, Sitka, first lite and predator and similar patters as well as the current military patterns are also good. These all match what is told in this video
@@longdrawarcher4857 I honestly don’t have a lot of experience with them. I did look at the ASAT camo when I was doing research for this video and left it out simply because it only has macro dispersion and no micro dispersion elements.
I'm going to check some of hese camo patterns out. Here in the North Central Iowa swamps, I have found Mossy Oak Bottomland to be a very effective camo...not to impugn anything in this excellent video.
Bottomland is an excellent camo. A camo that is very close to that is Duck Camp’s Woodland camo. It has the same properties as Bottomland but incorporates the design elements I talked about in the video. Thanks!
I believe Natural Gear is at the top. When you have a red-tailed hawk land on a limb, 3 feet from you then sit there and stare at you for 3 minutes trying to figure out if you're a threat before nonchalantly deciding I wasn't anything abnormal, that's all I need to know about an effective camo pattern.
It’s worth the money. I have many stories. I have had a squirrel walk across my hand that was on a log. I’ve even been salmon fishing in Michigan and was able to get close enough to touch the fish with my hand when my buddy couldn’t get with in 20 feet of them. I bought a camera and GoPro this year and hope to get some thing on video. I’m a believer. Hope you’re brother and you, if you try HECS, have the same experiences I have with it.
Very informative. UK hunter here, we usually wear solids however kuiu is getting very popular and i use a mix of verde and valo for here in Scotland for the different seasons.
@@theeverydaybowhunter the apparel market is so different to the states. Camo for a long time was your basic military surplus. Now finally moving in the right direction. How important is camo at 200m shooting open hill, not sure but woodland stalking up to 50m, it adds seconds onto a shot getting ready
@@cypherthepro At 200 yards I don't see it being much of an issue, but when it comes to stalking I think it's a must. Yeah here in the US the market for hunting gear and different camo types is huge.
I've always felt like Country DNA was just too dark to be effective in fall woods, but hey, if it works for you more power to ya! If I had to use Mossy Oak I'd probably prefer Terra Gila
Good information video. Thank you for your service too! On that note, I deer hunt in southern VA and have been wearing my US Navy Type III AOR 2 (digital woodland) camouflage (demilitarized of course) top and bottoms. Sometimes I wear the old woodland camo top. How do those patterns rate in your 3 categories of disruption? BTW, I am usually in a box stand so I wear a balaclava with facemask and gloves.
I appreciate it. Same to you. digital woodland camo should do really well. The standard would be ok for that particular area, but not quite as optimized. You definitely need to look at the color palette and make sure it matches up with the area you hunt. With your hunting style you probably can get away with a lot in the stand. It’s your access and movement to and from the stand you need to worry about.
I think it is just Vietnam jungle camo and you could make you look about the same as Origin with a little work for pennies on the dollar vs Origin . It is a good camo if you are selective and get the good prints . Some seem to dark depending on the fabric used with Origin . I like when you get a high contrast print of theirs as it is what I look for in a camo . I am still 100% in belief Predator camo is the best camo ever designed for deer. Every print they made works better than anyone else's. Skyline is also another brand I loved in the old days . High contrast is the key .
Camo is great but HECS does work or at least it has for me. I have had more deer at 5 yards or less in the last 6 years then I did in my first 33 years hunting. While sitting in a clear cut sitting next to a small tree 6 inch in diameter and only my legs covered by some logs I had a deer walk straight to me. At about 10 yards it went to my right. It stopped at 6 to 8 feet, that’s right I said feet, from me. I had the gun in my lap facing to the left and I was able to move the gun to my right and shoulder it. I took the shot the doe hunched up and as I lowered the gun I could see the hole from the bullet. She ran about 50 yards and died. Great video. But it camo works even better with HECS.
@@donfarmer4020 my brother is currently testing it. He’s going in to his second season with it and he hasn’t had enough experience with it yet. I’d like to try it too.
@@THERESISTANCE762 I’ve never heard of that. I had to look it up. It was introduced back in 2018/19 I believe. Maybe they tested it and it didn’t perform well for sales? It’s nowhere on their website that I can find.
Very good and informative video! I still love predator and asat...breaks up your outline but they arent pretty! There is another one thars called WTF camo and looks weird but i bet it works!
Any recommendations for hunting clothes that DONT cost $250-$400 just for the jacket? The prices on decent camouflage clothing are absurd. Insulting, actually. For ONE outfit you’re going to spend $500 approximately, not even including your base layers. Or boots. Now pair that with needing a new outfit each day you hunt to maintain a high level of scent control, and all of the sudden hunting goes from being a pastime for the common family, to now you need a small loan if you want to put yourself or your kids in even halfway decent gear to be even competitive. These companies are shameful with what they’re trying to squeeze out of folks. Anyways. Other than that, great information, great video sir. Carry on ✊🏻
Huntworth hunting clothes have the best price for quality gear that I know of. There are others like Kings Camo, Skre, and True Timber, that have great camo with decent prices too. Thanks!
I think that the Specter camo from First Lite is great for that, but really like Asio’s camo for tree stand hunting in those areas. That being said, there are a lot that would do well. These are just the ones I prefer, especially as you get later into October.
As patterns go, I don't think there is such a thing as a universal camo, at least one that's really great year round. It's just "okay" year around, but i doubt it will be optimized. What pattern to get really depends on when, where, and what you hunt. Turkey vs an ungulate, and May green out vs October in the fall. Over time, I've acquired two different sets of hunting cloths. One a more dominate fall or fall like environment, say April, early may, and October onward. Another for mid may to Late September to early October. Expensive, but it's just something I did over a long period of time. Solids, I think, do have their place, but for "socially acceptable" reasons. Say over the course of summer while scouting. You stand out a bit more to other people which your bound to encounter, when it's not hunting season, and your in camo. For that, I'll usually roll with a green/tan top with brown pants. Dominate colors for summer and it breaks up my overall silhouette some. I look just like a random hiker, instead of some creepy, sketchy type. Regardless of solids or camo, movement, and wind direction are still king. Great video. I tend to geek out on camo some. I think it is important (obviously), but only up to a point. I'm a bit jaded when it comes to patterns , company's, overall price, and marketing.
Nice video. I'm currently trying to get some Sitka gear for September whitetail and am unsure between Elevated 2 and Sub Alpine, if I wanted to do a mix of ground and tree stand hunting would you say one is better? Also what about mixing between them? Like Elevated head and hands, then Sub Alpine for torso and legs?
@@mccarthy86 since I don’t know exactly what the environment is like in September, I’ll tell you what I’ve been doing. If it’s really green during September I’ve been sticking with Elevated II (Equinox Guard Hoody and Pants) for where I hunt because of how green it is then, not to mention the Insect Shield stuff. If I’m hitting more open woods on the ground I’m going Subalpine, unless it’s really green around there. Then I’m using Elevated. I am primarily a treestand or saddle hunter so I use Elevated a lot in the early season here. I hope that helps.
@@theeverydaybowhunter Thanks yeah that's helpful. I was interested in the Equinox Guard stuff due to the insect repellent fabric. What are your views on mixing camo? Do you think it helps break up your shape or does it outline your body parts and tell your target your a person with legs and arms?
@@mccarthy86 I believe you only get the full benefits of camouflage when you use it as a single system. When you mix the wrong elements you have the potential of contrasting vs camouflaging. You can definitely get away with it but it’s not the best option in my opinion.
@@theeverydaybowhunter I’m looking for new camo clothing and I have it narrowed down to the Cabela’s instinct line with the vsx and blocker outdoors stuff with the mossy oak terra Outland. I’m trying to figure out which line would be better for early through late season and predator hunting and which camo pattern will be better for NEPA. I hunt in a tree stand and on the ground. The only con for instinct is some of that stuff is noisy while blockers stuff is dead quiet. Other than that I’m stuck. Any thoughts?
@@HFDBadge22 I really like the later season Instinct stuff, but it is a little noisy. That being said, I don’t think you can go wrong either way. Both have a lot of similarities. I do think the Terra Outland camo is better for the later season but it’s splitting hairs really.
@@theeverydaybowhunter yea they are definitely close. I think mossy oak hit it out of the park with terra Outland. It goes along with the disruption style in a little different way but I think can blend in most places. The hang up on the Cabela’s like I said is the noise. Even the early season pants are a little noisy and that worries me. I like the vsx a little more but I don’t think enough to trade quiet gear for noisy. What do you think?
I think it’s pretty good. It is a woodland focused camo, so that’s the best hunting environment for it. I’m hoping to talk with them about testing it in the near future.
That’s a tough one, because camo is very environment specific. I think the True Timber Strata is the most versatile pattern there is. I also am a big fan of First Lite’s Specter for tree stand hunting.
Ehhh I think the new camo definitely is made to look cool.. They look amazing compared to real tree or mossy oak.. first lite, Sitka, under armor all look really cool.. Orgin looks so good, especially on a rx8 bow..
Back when Sitka released the first deer vision optimized camo, I didn’t like it. It took a lot of years to catch on considering they first released it around 2012. It took me some time and a lot of research to realize how it works for deer vision and why. A lot of people don’t realize why this style of camo was developed, but optimizing for how deer and other ungulates was the catalyst.
Hi, follow vet here, but anyway, I bought a 'ghilly suit' w/like 1000 leaves. IT BETTER be very windy out, because I was the only thing moving! Like, everytime u turn your head, ahhh, u understand. I will never wear it again! I grond hunt; was hiding behind a BIG tree, watching deer coming at 80, 70, 60, they then saw me, peeking around the side and GONE!
Anything can work if you’re very still and have the wind in your favor. That being said, deer see orange as a grey or brown depending on the shade. But, they see contrast very well. Meaning if you are one solid color your chances of being spotted go up. Now, if you’re using orange camo, that would help a lot and would work.
Break up your outline, avoid colors that deer see well ie.. blues, yellows and anything with UV brighters. A good camo pattern can help but you can be wearing good camo if you can still stick out like a sore thumb. Good camo and learning how to use the environmental factors to hide your outline. That will allow you to be more successful.
This is really great for bow season, but come gun season and we have to wear those ridiculous blaze orange vest! So I guess we are covering up all our expensive camouflage with what the deer see as a big grey blob! University of Georgia did a study on deer vision and found that they can see the color blue. So all you guys wearing blue jeans….. well, don’t.
I don’t think camo matters much for deer. I’ve bow hunted full camo and had deer walk within 10 feet of me. In rifle season wearing blaze orange and have had the same thing happen. Back in the day guys didn’t have camo and shot all kinds of big game in flannel and jeans and what not.
I found over forty five years of hunting deer that my best camouflage outfit are my worn out carHart's I've had deer walk within 3 feet. Don't try it during gun season
That's all great for bow hunters, which may be what you're aiming this toward, but for gun hunting, as soon as you throw on that orange, it seems this becomes a moot point.
I had to look that one up. On my phone it looked like Mossy Oak Bottomland at first. I can see how that could be effective at the base of a tree or even up in a treestand.
@@theeverydaybowhunter it makes you invisible to everyone..I have had hunters lean up on the tree I was setting at .....once a fox squral landed on my arm....I will never use anything but ultimate camo...it is perfectly matched to the trees in the hills I live in
Too much white in new camo. Where I hunt there is no white except in aspen groves or when there is snow. I think most new camo is trying to get hunters to pay for designer camo produced by people who probably don't hunt.
If u hunt watch your scent i have bow hunted with blue jeans and and flannel shirts hunter orange i never wear camo for deer been hunting for 30 years it really doesn't matter 😂
I can always tell when someone comments but obviously didn’t watch the video. But what I have seen is how consistent the responses are. “This is the way I’ve always done it.” Never accept the status quo. Always endeavor to be a better hunter and try to make your next hunt better than your last. Please watch the video.
Get a light gray top, and light brown bottoms. Then paint them yourself using browns black and whites making sure your shoulder areas and legs have opposing colors and patterns. Make irregular shapes, and don't hold the paint can so close that it actually saturates and builds up on the material. Then use a paint pen to draw twigs over some of the areas, but DON'T makes those symmetrical either. The paint should not be so thick as to impede the movement and normal stretch of the fabric. Let it dry in the sun and then wash it a few times in UVKILLER detergents, and test with a blacklight. Then test the camo against the backdrop of your hunting area and adjust as needed. DO NOT us to many dark colors and large spots. If you look like a dark blob and 30 to 5 yards you failed and need to start over. So many "amazing" camo patterns turn into dark blobs at distance and the shape of the man stands out perfectly. Most camo patterns on the market are designed to catch the hunter... NOT the hunter's prey.
Camo is 100% a gimmick! Man has been hunting deer for thousands of years, successfully. Back when their lives depended on it they didnt have camo. Been hunting whitetails for over 40 years. Never wear camo. Have been within the length of my arrow away from deer in plain clothes. (Ok, no bright flashy colors). Anyone telling you you NEED camo is selling you something. What you need is to learn to move slowly and quietly, understand the wind, and how to use back cover.
So it doesn’t help at all for deer? I don’t disagree with the fact the fundamentals are 90% of the solution. But, if you can also blend into the environment and take advantage of deer vision, you can amplify your chances. Watch the video. I think I say this stuff in the first 30 seconds. It’s not about “needing camo” as much as it’s taking advantage of being more camouflaged. Does that make sense?
Spending all this money on camo is dumb people believe they need special clothes just to walk down the street so let’s take some advice from one of the best hunters that’s ever been “The best camouflage pattern is called, “Sit down and be quiet!” Your grandpa hunted deer in a red plaid coat, think about that for a second.”FREAD BEAR
You don’t need camo at all. Just nothing blue. It’s not hard to understand deers vision. A deer don’t even have that great of eyesight. They’re prey animals with the eyes on the side of their head and their looking for movement. Not to see if your camo pattern is right.
It is better to use Camo then it is to not use Camo. Yes it is possible to hunt in blue jeans and at shirt smoking a cigarette but in my opinion that is the exception.
I wear khaki color wrangler work pants , brown boots and a hoody …… slay deer every year lol Camo for deer hunting is a gimmick . Sit still and be quiet
You can’t get away with that where I hunt. Plus, please watch the video. It’s not about what you can get away with. It’s about what is the best and why.
I hunt in the mountains of north central Pennsylvania in a low deer density area. The deer there spook really easily. Obviously being still and quiet is the priority, but they really seem to notice when something is contrasting with their environment.
I hate the camos you are pushing in 2024. THEY SUCK . They all become the same color outside of 50 yards. The best way to fool a deer or any game animal is with HIGH CONTRAST . Predator BRAND camo is still the best camo for deer and always will be . Light and dark combos with hard edges are the only way to not become a blob at distance and conceal up close. High contrast is so much better than this nonsense camo made for the richest people so they still look fashionable and NOT so they have the best concealment.
I have very good luck every year so far with my marine digital camo uniform. In the tree stand or on the ground every year here in pa I've tagged out all 7 tags so far. Until it stops working for deer and humans I'll stay with it until then. Besides they want out rages prices for all that camo your showing to us ridiculous how expensive it is and it will fall apart as it gets older like everything else and tare like everything else just more expensive that's it.
You can actually get a lot of this type of camo at really good prices. Especially the True Timber Strata and Huntworth stuff. But, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. Remember, camo is a capability amplifier. Like I said in the video, there’s a lot of camo that works or that you can get away with. I just discussed what’s the best and why it’s the best.
Id hunt in all OD green if i was 100% scent free..camo color..brand...means absolutely 0..what do i know..I've only been deer hunting for 42 years and a die hard trophy hunter for over 25 years..doing everything to eliminate your scent is the only deer hunters should concentrate on period..save money buy an ozonics...never hunt without a scent free shower ..keep you hunting gear in air tight containers ..never wear your hunting clothes until you are at you hunting area..dress outside of your truck..spray down..and also spray down walking out of the woods
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A lot of hunters have had tremendous success with all kinds of camo and in some cases, no camo at all when hunting deer. But, that’s not what this video is about. This video is about what is the best camo overall that is optimized for deer vision and how they see us. It’s not about what you can get away with. But most of all, this video is not here to tell you what you must or should wear. It’s here to show you things that could possibly amplify your chances. Good luck!
Surprised you haven’t used “All Predator Calls” kill/sapper suits. I bow hunt on the ground hunt with no blind and I’m also a photographer and I routinely get animals within 2-3yds of me. Having the proper camo, especially on your face makes a world of difference. Thankfully a couple years back AP Calls took my advice and made a fall timber coloration suit. For years they just had basically one for green environments and one for tan. I always tweak them to fit my exact environment, but having nice bases to start from definitely makes it easy.
@@jakudahsymba5453 post a link. I’m not really familiar with it.
Alert of bull crap in your videos 😂
Stay downwind, walk softly and slowly taking periodic breaks, sit still and be quiet. That strategy has worked for me for 25 years with & without camo
Essential stuff for sure
Yeah it used to work wearing red flannel and jeans . We wear blaze orange during gun season. So what you are saying is meaningless. What works to kill a deer is not the same as fooling a Boone Buck with a bow . And why are you walking around that much hunting? Stay STILL as STILL as possible and do not move around if you want to kill giants. The difference between being an effective hunter and being a trophy hunter comes down to the smallest details like camo. Wind control and all that is more important generally of course but to close the gap between harvesting a deer and harvesting a trophy deer are the details that are not obvious like wind and movement. What works for you in your area will not work everywhere. Which is why putting more time and investment into quality camo and sent control is uber important for getting world class deer.
If you took the time to invest in better concealment clothing, sent controls and you stopped walking around so much you would improve your ability to shoot big bucks year in and year out. Find the zone, get the wind in your favor and use the clothing that matches the terrain you are covering and your success will turn into super success. Good luck out there .
@@theeverydaybowhunter What he is not getting is the3 difference between trophy deer hunting and harvesting deer with a rifle. Making big deer harvesting the norm takes investment into the details and sticking to a program that works. The basics will work in most gun hunting situations as deer move around because of woods traffic more than any other way. When trying to get a shot inside of 20 yards with a stick with feathers on it you want to use all the tools one can to succeed at a high level . The difference is hunting vs harvesting. Hell I can drive around all season long and shoot a buck and fil my tags off the road if I want to . That does not make me a good hunter though.
@@jesusoftheapes I've met some idiots through comments on RUclips over the years but you are the champion supreme. I couldn't even read all your long-winded BS that you tried to reply. What's awesome is you got that worked up over a comment and read 10 times more into it than was meant to be. You really need to get a life buddy lol
@@jesusoftheapes lol you obviously you need to learn to hunt better.
A really great camo discussion… as a young hunter I stood silently against a hedgerow in blue jeans and a camo jacket as three bucks passed within 15 yards of me until they winded me. While standing there I was thinking to myself, “these writers have no idea what they are talking about”. Fast forward 10+ years and I realized the waist deep grasses I was standing in hid the blue jeans and my jacket matched what could be seen. With time we all learn a lot. I don’t have 5 or 6 deer I can ask “Does this camo make me look like anything scary?” Capturing deer’s reactions seems to be the only way we can estimate that response. Thanks to the researchers that did the work instead of our trial and error way (6-8 weeks of the year) that takes many seasons to start to figure things out. Really great discussion… still learning at 68…
Thanks. It definitely is a continual learning process.
Just my opinion here... movement is the 90%, camo is the 10% when it comes to deer vision. I love camo because it looks cool but between sound, movement and smell (wind), it's overrated when it comes to putting deer on the ground.
I understand that some camos may be better than others, don't get me wrong.
@@Powerdad50000 yeah, like I said in the beginning of the video, movement is number one, but the right camo will allow you to get away with more. It’s about stacking the odds in your favor. Thanks!
Something to be aware of is primitive style Highlands hunting. The Scots would use capes made out of their tartans and it was super effective at breaking up patterns even though it's what we would call plaid. I think your point on UV light reflection is key and the fact that the weft and weave of traditional fabrics actually does have some of that dispersion because there is micro patterns inside of the macro patterns. Good stuff!
Thanks!
ASAT leafy suit is my go to camo.
I never use leaf camo unless I am turkey hunting because leaves are off the trees for most of the season. Leaf camo is noisy . That is why I hate it.
IMHO ASAT camo is one of the best, Sitka, first lite and predator and similar patters as well as the current military patterns are also good. These all match what is told in this video
So suprised you didn’t mention asat, or predator camo. I find them to be the absolute best pattern out there.
@@longdrawarcher4857 I honestly don’t have a lot of experience with them. I did look at the ASAT camo when I was doing research for this video and left it out simply because it only has macro dispersion and no micro dispersion elements.
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I'm going to check some of hese camo patterns out. Here in the North Central Iowa swamps, I have found Mossy Oak Bottomland to be a very effective camo...not to impugn anything in this excellent video.
Bottomland is an excellent camo. A camo that is very close to that is Duck Camp’s Woodland camo. It has the same properties as Bottomland but incorporates the design elements I talked about in the video. Thanks!
I am up north east ny I share by mossyoak country DNA up here. Mossyoak has there shit together.!
I believe Natural Gear is at the top. When you have a red-tailed hawk land on a limb, 3 feet from you then sit there and stare at you for 3 minutes trying to figure out if you're a threat before nonchalantly deciding I wasn't anything abnormal, that's all I need to know about an effective camo pattern.
What camouflage pattern were you wearing and what season.... early ... mid... late... I'd like to know ?
It’s worth the money. I have many stories. I have had a squirrel walk across my hand that was on a log. I’ve even been salmon fishing in Michigan and was able to get close enough to touch the fish with my hand when my buddy couldn’t get with in 20 feet of them. I bought a camera and GoPro this year and hope to get some thing on video. I’m a believer. Hope you’re brother and you, if you try HECS, have the same experiences I have with it.
All your doing is hurting my wallet because now I really want to buy it lol. Thanks!
@@theeverydaybowhunterI’ve been enjoying watching your videos
Thanks! I appreciate it.
Very informative. UK hunter here, we usually wear solids however kuiu is getting very popular and i use a mix of verde and valo for here in Scotland for the different seasons.
They are both great options. Thanks!
@@theeverydaybowhunter the apparel market is so different to the states. Camo for a long time was your basic military surplus. Now finally moving in the right direction. How important is camo at 200m shooting open hill, not sure but woodland stalking up to 50m, it adds seconds onto a shot getting ready
@@cypherthepro At 200 yards I don't see it being much of an issue, but when it comes to stalking I think it's a must. Yeah here in the US the market for hunting gear and different camo types is huge.
Brilliant video, very informative, hello from Ireland
Hello and thanks!
I sware by the old-school mossyoak country DNA. Im in the north east upstate ny. I have great luck and ihunt on the ground most the time
I've always felt like Country DNA was just too dark to be effective in fall woods, but hey, if it works for you more power to ya!
If I had to use Mossy Oak I'd probably prefer Terra Gila
10th and 19th group here. Keep up the good work buddy.
Thanks, you too!
I see this and think of the old military clothing camouflage pattern woodland from the 1990s . I'm a big fan of the leaf camo suit .
@@stevebrown3408 I wore that camo for a lot of years. I was in the Army from 1989 till 2010.
Good information video. Thank you for your service too! On that note, I deer hunt in southern VA and have been wearing my US Navy Type III AOR 2 (digital woodland) camouflage (demilitarized of course) top and bottoms. Sometimes I wear the old woodland camo top. How do those patterns rate in your 3 categories of disruption? BTW, I am usually in a box stand so I wear a balaclava with facemask and gloves.
I appreciate it. Same to you. digital woodland camo should do really well. The standard would be ok for that particular area, but not quite as optimized. You definitely need to look at the color palette and make sure it matches up with the area you hunt. With your hunting style you probably can get away with a lot in the stand. It’s your access and movement to and from the stand you need to worry about.
I really like the Origin camo.
I think it is just Vietnam jungle camo and you could make you look about the same as Origin with a little work for pennies on the dollar vs Origin . It is a good camo if you are selective and get the good prints . Some seem to dark depending on the fabric used with Origin . I like when you get a high contrast print of theirs as it is what I look for in a camo . I am still 100% in belief Predator camo is the best camo ever designed for deer. Every print they made works better than anyone else's. Skyline is also another brand I loved in the old days . High contrast is the key .
Camo is great but HECS does work or at least it has for me. I have had more deer at 5 yards or less in the last 6 years then I did in my first 33 years hunting. While sitting in a clear cut sitting next to a small tree 6 inch in diameter and only my legs covered by some logs I had a deer walk straight to me. At about 10 yards it went to my right. It stopped at 6 to 8 feet, that’s right I said feet, from me. I had the gun in my lap facing to the left and I was able to move the gun to my right and shoulder it. I took the shot the doe hunched up and as I lowered the gun I could see the hole from the bullet. She ran about 50 yards and died. Great video. But it camo works even better with HECS.
@@donfarmer4020 my brother is currently testing it. He’s going in to his second season with it and he hasn’t had enough experience with it yet. I’d like to try it too.
I use sitka ground forest, its very hard to find here stateside. Not sure why because it blends great in the hardwoods of the eastern US.
@@THERESISTANCE762 I’ve never heard of that. I had to look it up. It was introduced back in 2018/19 I believe. Maybe they tested it and it didn’t perform well for sales? It’s nowhere on their website that I can find.
@@theeverydaybowhunter it's marketed to the Europeans. I found it on eBay. There's a few items on there but not many. Great video by the way! 👍
Thanks!
There was some study eons ago that chose ASAT as the best camo for big game.
I heard that recently but could only find what they had on their website. I might have to email them and ask.
Very good and informative video! I still love predator and asat...breaks up your outline but they arent pretty! There is another one thars called WTF camo and looks weird but i bet it works!
Thanks!
Any recommendations for hunting clothes that DONT cost $250-$400 just for the jacket? The prices on decent camouflage clothing are absurd. Insulting, actually. For ONE outfit you’re going to spend $500 approximately, not even including your base layers. Or boots. Now pair that with needing a new outfit each day you hunt to maintain a high level of scent control, and all of the sudden hunting goes from being a pastime for the common family, to now you need a small loan if you want to put yourself or your kids in even halfway decent gear to be even competitive. These companies are shameful with what they’re trying to squeeze out of folks. Anyways. Other than that, great information, great video sir. Carry on ✊🏻
Huntworth hunting clothes have the best price for quality gear that I know of. There are others like Kings Camo, Skre, and True Timber, that have great camo with decent prices too.
Thanks!
Thank you for this. What is your best recommendation for tree stand hunting the hardwoods of Ohio and WEST VIRGINIA?
I think that the Specter camo from First Lite is great for that, but really like Asio’s camo for tree stand hunting in those areas. That being said, there are a lot that would do well. These are just the ones I prefer, especially as you get later into October.
Mossy Oak break up... early season... mid season when leaves are changing and starting to fall... I go to ASAT leafy suit over my mossy oak !
Any camo works! I mix and match all kinds of patterns, but real tree edge is my favorite
Badlands falls into this category too, right? Or is it not enough macro? Thoughts?
@@bungalized I think it fits. I see what you mean about the macro dispersion side of it though.
As patterns go, I don't think there is such a thing as a universal camo, at least one that's really great year round. It's just "okay" year around, but i doubt it will be optimized. What pattern to get really depends on when, where, and what you hunt. Turkey vs an ungulate, and May green out vs October in the fall.
Over time, I've acquired two different sets of hunting cloths. One a more dominate fall or fall like environment, say April, early may, and October onward. Another for mid may to Late September to early October. Expensive, but it's just something I did over a long period of time.
Solids, I think, do have their place, but for "socially acceptable" reasons. Say over the course of summer while scouting. You stand out a bit more to other people which your bound to encounter, when it's not hunting season, and your in camo. For that, I'll usually roll with a green/tan top with brown pants. Dominate colors for summer and it breaks up my overall silhouette some. I look just like a random hiker, instead of some creepy, sketchy type. Regardless of solids or camo, movement, and wind direction are still king.
Great video. I tend to geek out on camo some. I think it is important (obviously), but only up to a point. I'm a bit jaded when it comes to patterns , company's, overall price, and marketing.
@@MiddleOutdoorsman my camo changes with the season too. It’s a must. Movement and wind are definitely essential. Great comment and thanks!
Nice video. I'm currently trying to get some Sitka gear for September whitetail and am unsure between Elevated 2 and Sub Alpine, if I wanted to do a mix of ground and tree stand hunting would you say one is better? Also what about mixing between them? Like Elevated head and hands, then Sub Alpine for torso and legs?
Where are you hunting primarily?
@@theeverydaybowhunter Finland, so I guess that's the equivalent to Canada.
@@mccarthy86 since I don’t know exactly what the environment is like in September, I’ll tell you what I’ve been doing. If it’s really green during September I’ve been sticking with Elevated II (Equinox Guard Hoody and Pants) for where I hunt because of how green it is then, not to mention the Insect Shield stuff. If I’m hitting more open woods on the ground I’m going Subalpine, unless it’s really green around there. Then I’m using Elevated. I am primarily a treestand or saddle hunter so I use Elevated a lot in the early season here. I hope that helps.
@@theeverydaybowhunter Thanks yeah that's helpful. I was interested in the Equinox Guard stuff due to the insect repellent fabric. What are your views on mixing camo? Do you think it helps break up your shape or does it outline your body parts and tell your target your a person with legs and arms?
@@mccarthy86 I believe you only get the full benefits of camouflage when you use it as a single system. When you mix the wrong elements you have the potential of contrasting vs camouflaging. You can definitely get away with it but it’s not the best option in my opinion.
They most effective camouflage for tree stands in hardwoods for me has been charcoal grey work clothes. Camouflage is largely marketing.
Sure. How could camouflaging yourself possibly help? 🙄
What do you think of the mossy oak terra Outland. Seems to be mossy oaks first different camo that isn’t imagery.
How about vsx camo? I hunt in NEPA.
@@HFDBadge22 both of those are solid. I really like the VSX.
@@theeverydaybowhunter I’m looking for new camo clothing and I have it narrowed down to the Cabela’s instinct line with the vsx and blocker outdoors stuff with the mossy oak terra Outland. I’m trying to figure out which line would be better for early through late season and predator hunting and which camo pattern will be better for NEPA. I hunt in a tree stand and on the ground. The only con for instinct is some of that stuff is noisy while blockers stuff is dead quiet. Other than that I’m stuck. Any thoughts?
@@HFDBadge22 I really like the later season Instinct stuff, but it is a little noisy. That being said, I don’t think you can go wrong either way. Both have a lot of similarities. I do think the Terra Outland camo is better for the later season but it’s splitting hairs really.
@@theeverydaybowhunter yea they are definitely close. I think mossy oak hit it out of the park with terra Outland. It goes along with the disruption style in a little different way but I think can blend in most places. The hang up on the Cabela’s like I said is the noise. Even the early season pants are a little noisy and that worries me. I like the vsx a little more but I don’t think enough to trade quiet gear for noisy. What do you think?
@@HFDBadge22 quiet and comfortable first for sure.
1968 Vietnam era M65 woodland
What do you think about Huntsworth’s new pattern, Vertek?
I think it’s pretty good. It is a woodland focused camo, so that’s the best hunting environment for it. I’m hoping to talk with them about testing it in the near future.
If you had to pick one pattern what would it be?
That’s a tough one, because camo is very environment specific. I think the True Timber Strata is the most versatile pattern there is. I also am a big fan of First Lite’s Specter for tree stand hunting.
Ehhh I think the new camo definitely is made to look cool.. They look amazing compared to real tree or mossy oak.. first lite, Sitka, under armor all look really cool.. Orgin looks so good, especially on a rx8 bow..
Back when Sitka released the first deer vision optimized camo, I didn’t like it. It took a lot of years to catch on considering they first released it around 2012. It took me some time and a lot of research to realize how it works for deer vision and why. A lot of people don’t realize why this style of camo was developed, but optimizing for how deer and other ungulates was the catalyst.
Hi, follow vet here, but anyway, I bought a 'ghilly suit' w/like 1000 leaves. IT BETTER be very windy out, because I was the only thing moving! Like, everytime u turn your head, ahhh, u understand. I will never wear it again! I grond hunt; was hiding behind a BIG tree, watching deer coming at 80, 70, 60, they then saw me, peeking around the side and GONE!
@@turtleman5111 yeah, for some situations they are great and for others not.
been using Vietnam era vintage advisor tiger stripe since the 90's. for Turkey and deer. all be it in certain envirinments
So would full Orange camo work
Anything can work if you’re very still and have the wind in your favor. That being said, deer see orange as a grey or brown depending on the shade. But, they see contrast very well. Meaning if you are one solid color your chances of being spotted go up. Now, if you’re using orange camo, that would help a lot and would work.
Check out WTF Camo.Very different.Very cool.
Thanks! I think I saw their booth at the Great American Outdoor Show. You’re right. It is very different.
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Did you watch the video?
Just stick close to your terrain pattern, seasonal colors and be sure it is quiet and loose fitting.
Break up your outline, avoid colors that deer see well ie.. blues, yellows and anything with UV brighters. A good camo pattern can help but you can be wearing good camo if you can still stick out like a sore thumb. Good camo and learning how to use the environmental factors to hide your outline. That will allow you to be more successful.
@@michaelbrown2678 yep. I talk about all of this in the video. Thanks.
This is really great for bow season, but come gun season and we have to wear those ridiculous blaze orange vest! So I guess we are covering up all our expensive camouflage with what the deer see as a big grey blob! University of Georgia did a study on deer vision and found that they can see the color blue. So all you guys wearing blue jeans….. well, don’t.
Yeah sorry, I’m focused on bow hunting.
I have basically two different patterns.I would have three if I hunted out of a tree 😊
I don’t think camo matters much for deer. I’ve bow hunted full camo and had deer walk within 10 feet of me. In rifle season wearing blaze orange and have had the same thing happen. Back in the day guys didn’t have camo and shot all kinds of big game in flannel and jeans and what not.
Watch the video
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Ive seen a dude bushstalk deer wearing a superman costume
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Blue jeans and a tshirt its always hot in arkansas
Absolutely don’t use uv brighteners and use uv killer when you wash your cloths before you go hunting.
HECS SUIT!
@@donfarmer4020 my brother uses HECS. Only used it one season so the jury’s still out on that one lol.
I found over forty five years of hunting deer that my best camouflage outfit are my worn out carHart's I've had deer walk within 3 feet. Don't try it during gun season
That's all great for bow hunters, which may be what you're aiming this toward, but for gun hunting, as soon as you throw on that orange, it seems this becomes a moot point.
Yes, bow hunting. But the video is about more than that.
I grew up watching my dad wear flannels and smoking Winston light 100’s , never climbed a tree in his life and killed good deer every year
That’s not what this video is about. Watch it.
Best camo is what you can afford
Taken more deer in a flannel shirt and blue jeans while bow hunting than most people will see in a lifetime.
@@MrOldclunker I don’t doubt that at all. Did you watch the video?
I hunt mostly public lands. It requires I wear an orange vest and orange hat. The type of cammo underneath is irrelevant.
Remember, deer see orange as grey or brown depending on the shade.
Please tell me you didn’t go into combat wearing that iPhone watch……
@@rangered2010 hahaha. No. We all had Suunto’s.
Ive had GREAT success with True Timber Strata. Sub'd for an ARMY Brother. ;)
I think it’s one of the most versatile camouflages on the market.
Put glasses on. When they cant see your eyes. Uour no danger to them. They cant see through glass
If you stay on the ground the best camo in this world is Ultimate Camo
I had to look that one up. On my phone it looked like Mossy Oak Bottomland at first. I can see how that could be effective at the base of a tree or even up in a treestand.
@@theeverydaybowhunter it makes you invisible to everyone..I have had hunters lean up on the tree I was setting at .....once a fox squral landed on my arm....I will never use anything but ultimate camo...it is perfectly matched to the trees in the hills I live in
@@thedinner225 good to know.
3D fusion is a brown pattern, good for upland, corn fields, cattails 😊
"we don't want to have 50 different camo"... as he pulls out 50 different camo types, lol.
@@ninjaxpanda4070 and why? I said specifically to pick the one that best fits the environment you hunt in.
Too much white in new camo. Where I hunt there is no white except in aspen groves or when there is snow. I think most new camo is trying to get hunters to pay for designer camo produced by people who probably don't hunt.
Yeah I don't like it. Got some clearance Realtree Edge the insides was all white I dyed it with black walnut stain it looks badass now
Camo helps but no matter what you wear movement will get you busted everytime
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Dear see in black and white.
No. Sorry, they don’t. A lot of people think that but it’s not correct. I go through this in the video.
If u hunt watch your scent i have bow hunted with blue jeans and and flannel shirts hunter orange i never wear camo for deer been hunting for 30 years it really doesn't matter 😂
I can always tell when someone comments but obviously didn’t watch the video. But what I have seen is how consistent the responses are. “This is the way I’ve always done it.” Never accept the status quo. Always endeavor to be a better hunter and try to make your next hunt better than your last. Please watch the video.
Get a light gray top, and light brown bottoms. Then paint them yourself using browns black and whites making sure your shoulder areas and legs have opposing colors and patterns. Make irregular shapes, and don't hold the paint can so close that it actually saturates and builds up on the material. Then use a paint pen to draw twigs over some of the areas, but DON'T makes those symmetrical either. The paint should not be so thick as to impede the movement and normal stretch of the fabric. Let it dry in the sun and then wash it a few times in UVKILLER detergents, and test with a blacklight. Then test the camo against the backdrop of your hunting area and adjust as needed. DO NOT us to many dark colors and large spots. If you look like a dark blob and 30 to 5 yards you failed and need to start over. So many "amazing" camo patterns turn into dark blobs at distance and the shape of the man stands out perfectly. Most camo patterns on the market are designed to catch the hunter... NOT the hunter's prey.
Watch the video.
@@theeverydaybowhunter Why??? I just told you the fix. And ya don't have to spend $400 bucks on a pair of pants.
Hahaha! That’s good.
Camo is 100% a gimmick! Man has been hunting deer for thousands of years, successfully. Back when their lives depended on it they didnt have camo. Been hunting whitetails for over 40 years. Never wear camo. Have been within the length of my arrow away from deer in plain clothes. (Ok, no bright flashy colors). Anyone telling you you NEED camo is selling you something. What you need is to learn to move slowly and quietly, understand the wind, and how to use back cover.
@@bowdeer5074 another person who obviously didn’t watch the video.
I agree 100%. Camo is just to make you disappear from other humans and thus you think you have to be camouflaged.
So it doesn’t help at all for deer? I don’t disagree with the fact the fundamentals are 90% of the solution. But, if you can also blend into the environment and take advantage of deer vision, you can amplify your chances. Watch the video. I think I say this stuff in the first 30 seconds. It’s not about “needing camo” as much as it’s taking advantage of being more camouflaged. Does that make sense?
You're wearing an orange vest when your hunting. You don't wear orange vests on the military
Not when bow hunting. No orange required.
Spending all this money on camo is dumb people believe they need special clothes just to walk down the street so let’s take some advice from one of the best hunters that’s ever been “The best camouflage pattern is called, “Sit down and be quiet!” Your grandpa hunted deer in a red plaid coat, think about that for a second.”FREAD BEAR
@@Wylde5150 watch the video.
@@theeverydaybowhunter no
I could tell. If you watched you know that I say right in the beginning of the video, staying still is the number one camo.
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You don’t need camo at all. Just nothing blue. It’s not hard to understand deers vision. A deer don’t even have that great of eyesight. They’re prey animals with the eyes on the side of their head and their looking for movement. Not to see if your camo pattern is right.
It is better to use Camo then it is to not use Camo. Yes it is possible to hunt in blue jeans and at shirt smoking a cigarette but in my opinion that is the exception.
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I wear khaki color wrangler work pants , brown boots and a hoody …… slay deer every year lol Camo for deer hunting is a gimmick . Sit still and be quiet
You can’t get away with that where I hunt. Plus, please watch the video. It’s not about what you can get away with. It’s about what is the best and why.
@@theeverydaybowhunter gotchya…. mind if i ask why i wouldn’t get away with it where you hunt ? curious is all
I hunt in the mountains of north central Pennsylvania in a low deer density area. The deer there spook really easily. Obviously being still and quiet is the priority, but they really seem to notice when something is contrasting with their environment.
@@theeverydaybowhunter Gotchya i’m down here in SE PA So i understand what you’re saying. I’ll be hunting up in forksville and Dushore for rifle
Thanks and good luck!
You don’t need camo!
Yep, you don’t NEED it. But that’s not what the video is about. Watch it and see.
I hate the camos you are pushing in 2024. THEY SUCK . They all become the same color outside of 50 yards. The best way to fool a deer or any game animal is with HIGH CONTRAST . Predator BRAND camo is still the best camo for deer and always will be . Light and dark combos with hard edges are the only way to not become a blob at distance and conceal up close. High contrast is so much better than this nonsense camo made for the richest people so they still look fashionable and NOT so they have the best concealment.
Did you watch the video?
Camo is completely unnecessary when deer hunting.
Watch the video
Much of the camo is for the hunter not the deer $
I have very good luck every year so far with my marine digital camo uniform. In the tree stand or on the ground every year here in pa I've tagged out all 7 tags so far. Until it stops working for deer and humans I'll stay with it until then. Besides they want out rages prices for all that camo your showing to us ridiculous how expensive it is and it will fall apart as it gets older like everything else and tare like everything else just more expensive that's it.
You can actually get a lot of this type of camo at really good prices. Especially the True Timber Strata and Huntworth stuff. But, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. Remember, camo is a capability amplifier. Like I said in the video, there’s a lot of camo that works or that you can get away with. I just discussed what’s the best and why it’s the best.
Id hunt in all OD green if i was 100% scent free..camo color..brand...means absolutely 0..what do i know..I've only been deer hunting for 42 years and a die hard trophy hunter for over 25 years..doing everything to eliminate your scent is the only deer hunters should concentrate on period..save money buy an ozonics...never hunt without a scent free shower ..keep you hunting gear in air tight containers ..never wear your hunting clothes until you are at you hunting area..dress outside of your truck..spray down..and also spray down walking out of the woods
@@petergozinya2607 watch the video.