Hard Work Beats Talent Until Talent Works Hard
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2020
- I once read that "Hard Work Beats Talent Until Talent Works Hard". This is an interesting quote and in this video I talk about it and discuss how it relates to mathematics. There are plenty of examples of talent that works hard, for example Terence Tao. In the end, does it matter? What do you all think?
Terence Tao did say on his blog that he did poorly on his PhD quals due to a mix of overconfidence (he was constantly praised from a young age) and not studying enough. Shows that we do our best when we learn the virtue of resilience and dedication, regardless of our talent.
I don't consider learning and doing math as work, it's passion.
That quote is very near and dear to my heart. I remember when I was in middle/highschool band I was the worst player in every band, symphonic, wind, jazz etc. My best friend just seemed to grasp the music so much better than me. I was so jealous. Then one day a solo got offered for our section (alto sax) and the whole section wanted it. I wanted to prove that I wasnt terrible. I spent every day for a month practicing that solo( and other stuff) for 5 or more hours a day. I wanted it soooo bad. My hardwork did pay off and i got the solo AND i got moved to first chair AND i was good enough to get offered solos for the Jazz band. that experience made me realize i dont need natural gifts to do well in life. Hardwork WORKS! In my undergraduate studies in mathematics I am surrounded with people that are far more gifted but I refuse to lag behind them.
Awesome story!!
Just really awesome!!! So good man!!
One of the best examples is Kobe Bryant, that man would spend hours in the gym even though he was already one of the best .
Rip man
I quite like the basketball analogy, but I can't remember where I heard it. "You don't need to be the tallest player on the court, you only need to be tall enough to play". So you don't need to be the most intelligent person to contribute in a STEM field, you just need to be intelligent enough.
Oh that's awesome!!
I teach pre-calc as a TA and on the last test, my class had the lowest average of the five sections. My class kicked into gear and worked incredibly hard, packing my office to its capacity during some of my office hours, and on the second test, the class average increased 8.5 points. They aren’t the most talented bunch of math students, but they worked hard and I am incredibly proud of them.
So awesome!
But Life is a competition whether it be healthy or not. It is about winning, losing and drawing those are 3 possible results in most sports or on a quiz and it's also about learning.
Another one is, "Over confedance will kill you". I saw an interview once with a Caltech professor. One of the problems that Caltech faces, is that their student body is really, really smart. They are used to being the very best at their high schools, always being the top students. Always getting that perfect score. Well, everybody is like that in the Freshman class. So, when they're handed their first C or D, or maybe even an F, it comes as an extreme shock. Some don't or can't recover. They have never received a low grade in their life. For the first time in their lives they have to really work at something.
I believe strongly that a student has to be "matched" with the college or university they attend.
I was matched to Cal State and I got in and on just fine. Had I gone to Caltech or MIT, I probably would have got my head handed to me on a platter.
That is is not to say now that I've already been through the system I can't appriciate and understand their books, papers and lectures, etc. I do. But back when I was 18.....
Oh well said my friend! Thank you for sharing.
@@TheMathSorcerer sir, I will be having a very important exam now!
It will carry on for a month
@@johubify a one month exam? Wow lol sounds intense!
things who sound nice but are stupid => dangerous
things who are smart but not nice-sounding => are going to be ignored (dont get their deserved attention)
thing sound nice + thing is smart => powerful stuff
it´s nice to see videos where someone is still able to focus his attention on to something "little/short" for me than 2 seconds - this is something rare today, thank you.
The world is built by millions of people who are good at their jobs, but aren't geniuses or prodigies.
In fact, I do not know whether I am in the category of talented people or in the category of hard working people
I am listening to you, while translating your speech into Gregg shorthand inside my head. Practice only.
👍🏻 Thanks For Motivating Me
you're so wholesome i cant we dont deserve you
That quote is very powerful...
I love all your videos @themathsorcerer
This is really inspiring
Very inspirational, thanks man
Ya it's an awesome quote!!
talent comes from hard work.
There's people are born genetically smarter or better physically than other kids...so
did you read all these books on that shelf?
No not all, but I've looked at all of them, some sections, or referenced, or used for a course😄
@@TheMathSorcererCool, it's a good collection.🤘
Apply the video "don't compare yourself to others"
Solved.
Yes!
I need talent to keep being lazy so I have a job.
But all these kids at olympads and what not , people like Terry tao , they all are all very much smarter then me , and no matter how hard i work , no matter what i do , i will not reach em
Yeah you know, those guys are just brilliant. I guess you don't have to beat them though right? It's not a competition, just do enough to succeed in your own life and that's all that matters:) Just do enough to reach your goals and have a happy life:D
@@TheMathSorcerer i never had a good math teacher
@@user-og9nl5mt1b be your own math teacher!
This guy is either really short or he has very long arms.
ROFL!!! Yes very bad camera positioning, that's what that is LOL. I almost didn't post this:)
But everything is competition. So you need to win in order to succeed.
Not really
Thats what it is
the talent is built?
But really, what is talent? Mozart had over 10,000 hours of piano practice at age 9
(you can check the data in google). And there are many examples like this, maybe Tao is a similar case. It seems talented people are those who have worked hard from early.
This is a good point hmm
I completely agree with this quote, for almost all my life the quote "Hard work beats talent" made absolutely no sense to me, of course it din't, anyone could work hard, not everybody could have talent. This is also coming from personal experience, because both my mom and dad, especially dad are really smart. Dad im talking 2nd place in a national exam he studied 1 day for, and mom scholarship for one of the top 20 universities. My whole extended family is pretty smart too, so me and my brother thankfully inherited that. I know my intelligence is much higher than average because when i was at school i used to sleep through classes or doodle throughout the whole lesson, yet guess what? I still got far better than my peers who actually studied, to be fair my peers were definitely not the brightest and my class wasn't the best. But i was one of the only ones who managed to get back into my school with affiliation besides my classmates, even though alot were much more hardworking than me. Mind you, i dint study either until the last 2 weeks before the national exams. Now in secondary, because my school is an elite school, the people there all have very good grades, so i was expecting to be left in the dust especially with my lazy attitude, but i was surprised to find out that wasn't the case. Now im in a good class because everyone in this school has pretty good grades especially the ones who arn't affiliated, so the first term of the year i got straight A's as i started to pay attention in class and guess what, i only studied 2 days before every exam, 3 days max. And my peers who studied wayy harder than me dint manage to get those grades. Even now, where i have reverted back to my old habits of not paying attention in class, i still manage to pass and get OK grades compared to my friends who try so hard yet fail. Im not saying this to brag, i dont need someone to validate this, because i have seen it with my own eyes, and others too. My point is, hard work doesn't beat talent, unless talent is lazy, even then if your talent surpasses most so much, it still beats hard work. Not discrediting hard work, it definitely has an effect but take this example: A woman, is biologically weaker than men, this is coming from a woman herself, no matter how much a woman trains, if a man trains the same, the man will inveitably win. This is talent (not really in this case, its more of an anology) vs Hardwork. Of course, if you lack talent, all you can do is work hard and do your best, thats the most that anyone can do.
for ur last analogy I feel like that doesn’t convey ur point bc obviously if talent works hard they’ll be better but say that a woman has been training and working out but there’s a guy who doesn’t care abt what food he eats or doesn’t go to the gym then there the woman is winning bc of her hard work
But what's to hard worker works even harder it's conveying more of one higher than the other never ending cycle really
But u can only beat people with no talent😅
By this saying, when it comes to motivation people kinda get triggered and say some things but at the end of the day it's just Copium. The logic of the reality we live should be accepted or you might face consequences.
I don't think learning fast is a talent. I'd prefer much more to be that person that maybe takes longer to learn something, but then becomes really creative with it, you know, at least getting fazed by the learning material a little bit, not just throwing it into your universal light speed trash can memory to retrieve it during the test. That's no talent to me... things take time, so maybe you're talented, but just didn't get to the point where it matters yet.
Well said !!
But then you just gotta work harder than people who have talent and work hard 😎
cope
Talented people can also work harder, so in the end, talented people most likely still win. Everyone can work hard, but not everyone has talent.
1:38 Sorry, but that's just what losers say.
Lindsay Lohan, Amanda Byrnes are talented look where they are. People say d Kardashians are talentless but they work freaking hard and look at them. Talent is overrated
They got famous on the back of Robert Kardashians hard work.
Well Kardashians became famous not in the right way I would say.
It's Passion and Hard Work, doubt Talent do anything without those two. But you can achieve something when you even only have Passion and Hard Work. That's just some dumb quote for desperate people, deperate for something.
You can achieve only mediocrity with only passion and hard work.