The whole 'we can't update apps because the app center is open and locked' bug has been around for years now. It's why I run all my updates from the terminal first, reboot if necessary, then open app center and check for anything missed. It's so stupid.
It's much better in 24.04 because the new App Center is only running when you actually have it open, unlike Gnome Software which is always running in the background. So the new App Center will upgrade just fine when snapd checks for updates every 6 hours.
There's that and I've also had an issue with firefox snap not being able to update on every config I've tried. As you said, right after install, i do the norm apt upd && apt upg then I do a snap refresh in terminal before even considering anything else. This seem to prevent the issue, and as @that_leaflet mentioned, once that initial refresh and update is done, everything runs just fine. Turned out to be beneficial to me in ways, being relatively new to Linux. A shitton of trial and error, and a mentally unhealthy desire to figure it out myself made a lot of the information I've absorbed over the past year or so really stick.
@voodooyam Yes, that functionality hasn’t been added yet. You can install third party devs through the command line (either through PPA or by apt installing from a local deb) or by installing an app that installs debs for you.
Old IT guy here.... Rule of thumb... Never update on Release day. Always wait for .1 or .2 release before updating. The .0 is the mess, .1 are the panic fixes and .2 is usually the actual release that should have happened.
well its a moot point now since ubuntu doesnt even allow existing installs to upgrade to the latest version until the .1 comes out. You can test that right now if you have U22, you wont be able to upgrade to U24 till August or something
No data is lost in Ubuntu with the OOPS something went wrong error! That error is easy to fix and get up and running. Ubuntu CAN be configured so no sensitive data is exposed. The issues in Ubuntu ARE ALL EASY FIXES! If your in an IT field and your afraid to fix a little issue then you shouldn't be in IT. The Rule of thumb is for the lazy IT person. If it ain't broken Break it and break it good.That's how you learn to fix it!! That's my German rule of thumb.
@@Malte-Micha Ubuntu is not only used by IT professionals sir, it is also used by common end users like us who don’t know anything about technical things! for us it looks very unprofessional if even a single error comes in ubuntu or linux, because of these errors many users tend to run away from Linux. You cannot say this to new users that “if you can’t fix it, you shouldn’t use Linux”.
Small criticism apart, I've been noticing how GREAT things are right now. Ubuntu is great right now. Fedora is amazing. Mint is better than ever. Arch is fantastic. Debian is insane good. And it's not just distros: KDE is on a peak. GNOME is golden. Cinnamon is getting better and better on each release. Everything is really, REALLY looking up in the Linux world. Everything.
From the perception of the great majority of Ubuntu users the release cycle is every two years, not every six months. Even though I rarely use the intermediate releases myself I’m very happy they exist - it gives plenty of opportunity for testing new features, and must be very important for developers in particular.
same. also the idea of rushing for releases doesn't make sense. why would they rush? they can release it in the next cycle. it would apply more towards releasing every 2 years than every 6 months. Every 6 months takes the pressure off and having an LTS release version completely takes the pressure off. It also helps to push Ubuntu to improve and develop further, otherwise I can easily see them not doing much for 3/4s of that 2 year and eventually questioning why they have resources dedicated to it anyway. I mean, from my perspective, they have barely done anything in the last 4 years anyway. Actually I think for a lot longer than that. I also don't see them doing much for the next 2 years. They don't have an interest in it and their business model doesn't depend on changes done to ubuntu but rather changes not done to ubuntu. Or the changes done that don't apply to non-enterprise customers being completed while all others ignored pretty much.
8:28 this lock process issue has been around for years now. I stopped using Ubuntu the moment I discovered this issue. I should not have to go to terminal to refresh snap-store everytime I want to update my system in 2024. This is just not acceptable. So thank you for everything you did for me Ubuntu(Ubuntu brought Linux into my life), but I am moving on.
The scaling problem is due to gnome, not ubuntu. Actually it is for the x11 session, Ubuntu starts the installer in an X11 session, we all know that x11 and fractional scaling are enemies.
thanks for that additional information. its really useful. but that still makes it an ubuntu problem. Ubuntu is using gnome which is fair, but they are releasing ubuntu, not gnome. If our car breaks down, we don't blame the component that broke down but the company for releasing an unreliable model. Ubuntu can use gnome for free but they have to take criticism on their behalf because I'm not using gnome, I'm using Ubuntu. I didn't install gnome, I don't know gnome. I know ubuntu and I installed it and it's broken. This is for Ubuntu, I'm not blaming you of course and the information you provided is insightful but I just wanted to add this.
The scalling bug at 7:11 and locking up the display seems to be an issue with GNOME on X11, it happened to me on the live installer (which uses X11) but not when installed which then uses Wayland
I have had no problems with the Ubuntu 24.04 install. Now, I did a fresh install rather than an upgrade. I certainly didn't have the 4K Res issue or any of the other issues that you outlined. So far, so good.
Glad to hear it, I am going to do a fresh install on a testing laptop ... only a i3, if I like it and does what I need to do, I will get an i7 probably - more than enough for me.
The solution if you don't trust Ubuntu releases on or near release date: Don't install or attempt to use them anytime close to that date. Wait a month or two; hell, even five or six months if you're really paranoid. You could even wait until they release a 24.04.1 image with the first batch of updates and bug fixes built right into the image. With a lifespan of five years, they are in no way forcing you to update any time soon. You could even wait, what, another three years or so for support of 22.04 (which is currently at 22.04.4) to end if you really wanted to, or skip 24.04 entirely and install 26.04 in a few years. Fedora does not give you this kind of flexibility, and I can say that I have seen a release (somewhere in the mid 30s) of that distro that contained more crashes, bugs and problems in general than I've seen in any OS over the last two decades outside of ReactOS. It didn't just run poorly live on my actual hardware--it even failed within the relatively safe confines of a virtual machine, and installing it in that machine did not lead to a better system.
In fact I switched from Fedora to Ubuntu because Fedora had a myriad of very little problems that didn't seem to get any attention but were annoying beyond belief, while Ubuntu might not be the most polished distro on release, but they'll usually try to fix those little bugs that harm the end user experience. And the LTS release is perfect for this. I'd say 22.04 wasn't really great up until a full year after it was released, but it eventually got to that point and there was never any rush to upgrade, so that works for me.
I still have servers running 20.04 LTS. They'll be upgrdaed to either 22.04 or 24.04 LTS later this year, but I certainly am in no rush, and don't feel rushed. I'm not running the six month releases on servers, and I doubt anyone else is either. I do run the six month releases on my desktop, because I like having a newer GNOME and such, but that's a desktop.
I’ll have to check out what you were showing. The problem I had was with the installation. The installer crashed three times on me. The last time was after the install started. I checked system monitor and saw the processors were going pretty good so I assumed it was still going. When they flatlined, I rebooted the system. I booted it up fine into 24.04 after I had to choose which grub. It didn’t boot up to the 24.04 grub. I have a multi boot PC. I totally agree with you on the yearly schedule change. Every other year remaining LTS.
yeah same. its insane its still not fixed. every time i have to update the store itself i have to kill the process and do a sudo snap refresh from the terminal because it cant update itself from the gui.
I had no issues with my 24.04 install and had a couple of crashes on my Fedora 40 install, but I wouldn't say Fedora 40 was rushed. I think you are not giving it a fair shake. Perhaps try it on another device?
I have experienced the display resolution gnome crash too. It was quite confusing. I had to restart gnome entirely if I remember correctly. Pretty much made me pack up the distro right there. No way this is something that can be distributed publicly without the word beta next to it.
you have a valid point about the LTS releases targeting enterprise use, but the thing is, no LTS or even regular releases are allowed to be upgraded until the .1 release is out, and by then, usually the initial big bugs are sorted. you can of course download the release for new installs or whatever, but i also do an upgrade and they've never failed.
Yes and enterprises should never be using the newest version anyway. New features brings new bugs. When it's important, you want to use mature software.
the fact that they can is a problem. If the error is on Ubuntu's side, then the error is on Ubunutu's side. They gave the go-ahead when they shouldn't have. Fire Ubuntu. That's the point.
Was looking forward to 24.04. I use acpi on my dvr and it was causing headaches in 22.04. I wanted the update to see if some of the problems would just go away. Thanks for the review.
As a software engineer turned manager, slowing down the release cycle will not result in fewer bugs. Slowing down the cycle will just lengthen the delay in the feedback loop. It's tempting to think that developers just need more time to work out the bugs, but that misunderstands how developers work and why bugs get shipped. A product that feels rushed is a result of poor project management and leadership leading up to the release. It's not that there wasn't enough time that went into the project before release, but that time wasn't properly allocated and managed throughout the development cycle.
I tried that same upgrade and it failed miserably, and no way to roll it back even though btrfs supposedly has a snapshot feature. I don't mind an "experimental" distro, ...except when it blows up in my face.
@@danfg7215 I've upgraded several machines from F39 to F40 without any trouble at all these last few days. Some of them have been upgraded all the way from F35.
I was looking forward to this release - but fractional scaling for 4K screens is still an issue. At best , I get blurry fonts and, worst case application crashes. After using Mint / Ubunt for at least 8 years, I decided to run another distro with Plasma 6. Works great on 4K monitors.
I was waiting for the update notification on my wife's Framework 13 that's on 22.04. Looks like I'll wait a bit longer till they iron out the kinks (and actually send an update notification; I haven't seen one yet). I upgraded my Fedora KDE spin from 39 to 40 today and haven't run into any major bugs there. Only thing I've found till now is that if I have multiple browsers open and don't play audio for 10-20 minutes, my bluetooth headset picks the last browser that played any sound and ignores all of the others. I need to disconnect and reconnect again. For that to be the only "bug" I ran into was surprising to me, but then again, upgrades from 36 onwards have never given me any major grief.
Great review! Most other youtubers don't even bother testing it for real. This type of bug of key functionality (here update and display scaling) is unacceptable in a LTS or entreprise release, you are right. I would be curious to see if this affects Lubuntu minimal install with no snapd...
The lack of KDE Plasma 6 on Kubuntu / Ubuntu Studio until October is a huge miss imo. That's one of the reasons I use a rolling release and why I think true point releases are dead outside of enterprise use cases, at least for the desktop environments.
I'm still waiting for Tuxedo OS to move to KDE 6. We're in 5.27. We do have a slowed down rolling release cycle. Sometime this summer we'll be moving to the new Ubuntu LTS base and KDE Plasma 6.
Maybe Ubuntu could put out stable releases if they stopped imposing Snaps on us. No one would argue if they had spent that effort making Synaptic prettier. I'll probably keep my Kubuntu 23.10 around until 24.10 when they'll finally include Plasma 6. At the very least I'll wait until 24.04.1. But what I'm really waiting for is Mint LMDE with Plasma 6.
thankfully, i haven't experienced the issues you noted with my 24.04 installs. while i do think they should delay if they need to, i really hope they don't change the release schedule. i like the new stuff in the interim releases
I have upgraded to Linux Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS and the Chrome web app is not opening. What is the reason for this and why are there so many errors on my laptop? How can I find a solution?
The frequent releases doesn't have so much to do with users, but is more about the developer community. It reduces the difference between releases. Gnome is a very small part of Ubuntu and there are an enormous number of packages that fits together. Most people should not be on the cutting edge, because it always has a lot of sharp corners. A lot could be improved by simply changing the way they communicate with the public, because a big part of the problem is that users expectations are wrong. In reality, the polishing begins when a new version is out. There's nothing wrong with that approach as long as users don't think otherwise.
08:29 - well.... That's more than reasons to not like snap at all. For some mounths now, I am using arch based distro, like Manjaro or EndevourOS, with KDE Plasma 6 and need to say that's awesome.
Thanks for the review. I'm sorry about the bugs you encountered, and I hope that the bugs that you mentioned will be ironed out by the time the first point release comes out.
Good review as always. I dont like to use ubuntu anymore since the introduction of snap. True. But i love ubuntu as the fundament of wonderful distros like Pop OS, Mint and Zorin! I hope these will be great again.😉 To give it credit, i tried 24.04 on many notebooks and desktops with different hardware, and all worked. Compared to fedora, the automatic ubuntu install of nvidia driver is awesome!
Interesting video and I have subscribed. Nice to see someone that actually knows Linux and what he is talking about! 😂😂 I am going to test 24.0.4 soon, but seeing this video... is it worth instead installing a previous version ... for now?
They should switch the DE to Plasma. I had been using Gnome for about 4 years because I wanted to use Wayland and Plasma was not stable with it. With Plasma 6, it's reasonably stable (occasionality the shell crashes, but that doesn't affect running apps, so it's not a big deal) and solved so many problems I had with Gnome. For beginners who are accustomed to Windows, Plasma should be more familiar than Gnome is. Since Ubuntu is sort of the beginner Linux, it should be Plasma.
I have 24.04 LTS installed on my Raspberry Pi 4 model B and another old x86 notebook, in both cases the Remote Desktop either crash or does not allow connection. It keeps on giving 0x270 error (password expired) despite that I have double checked my id and password. This is the biggest issue I have ran into so far and there seems to have no solution on internet. Other than this the Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi 4 has been a good experience!
Did he really say that 22.04 was bad because some app versions didn't match the desktop version? WTF Why do you need an updated calculator for every Gnome update?
I'm struggling with the resizing of the apps when clicking the top toolbar. Almost always I missclick it and it goes crazy until y close everything. How can i disable this?
Good review. Had the same problems with it when I looked at it. There is certainly an impression of it being "issue or be damned" mentality at Canonical. Like always, wait for .1
Nice reference to Windows 98. In recent years, I have found the whole Ubuntu thing becoming more like the MS/Windows attitude to its user base, which is why I switched to Linux Mint. I just might give Fedora 40 cinnamon spin a trial.
I've migrated an old optimus laptop to ubuntu 24.04 and it has been a disaster since the driver application doesn't recognize the dedicated 770M; I've installed the driver manually but it still looks like it's not working properly.
I am running 24 in a VM in Proxmox. (I am a newbie with Linux and Proxmox). Opens OK but I have the cursor for my Windows 11 (using to open and use the VM) and another small cursor that looks like the one for Umbutu 24.. They move around together, and occasionally on the home page of 24 the cursors begin blotting out a line as they move across the screen. You can completely delete/cover up any open app screen with the maroon color of the desktop, as if you were blotting out a picture using a photo processing application. Weird and makes this almost useless as I have to close and open the VM again....and start over.
LTS needs more time to work properly with decent quality testing for enterprise environments. Agree fully - I won't be touching Ubuntu - even virtualised until 24.04.1 or even 24.04.2 - relying on this type of situation for production workstation operating systems is a crap show.
One thing I want to know, why did the devs remove compact mode for folders for the default program? I can't fathom why having less view of my files is better. I have to install Cinnamon.
As a newbie I have 24.04 and it is all going very well. If my pace keeps up I will only need Windows for my Boss effects pedals and Focusrite analog interface. Even then, there might eventually be a simple driver for the analog interface such that I could still get to the 4 analog ins and 4 analog outs. I figure with the effects pedals I can download a few tweaks now and then, but select manually. It is not that difficult. Today's goal is migrating and setting up my email. Wish me luck.
Just have freshly installed Ubuntu 24.04 from 22.04 and trust me it feels good but so many things are just crashing, this dude can even open appcenter I can't even open that , it became a hell of a thing for me cause I have erased the 22.04 and now I am here waiting for all the bug fixes 😢
What i love about Ubuntu is that if, god forbid your device gets corrupted or damaged (at least in my case) you can install Ubuntu via OEM which isnt something thats available for most distros, and it can extend the life of some devices!
I did had a same issues like that. Luckily, they can give this a point release just to fix the issues that is needed unlike a previous LTS (22.04) had a first point release that managed to fix the installer issues for NVIDIA users. Hopefully, they'll might fix the 4K or 8K issues about fractional scaled set to 200% by default like my iMac (2017 21.5 inch), if I tried that version on my iMac, small loading screen at second then upscaled it to 200% automatically to be a default. Yes, even I tried back in 23.04 (Lunar Lobster), same thing happen. However, my iMac's speaker won't work with Ubuntu but macOS, I'm not saying I'm switching back to macOS because it's trusted, I know apple ruined the trust due to claiming this "8GB ram is a same thing as 16GB ram (misleading claim)" Time keeps flying just to waste their time, very delightful to say is not their fault, but it's a timer's fault.
At 8:08 lol, I have a same problem about update snap store. The only way to fix that is either "sudo snap refresh snap-store" or "sudo snap refresh" if I did either way, it updates snap store just fine. ============================================================================================ At 8:43 Nope lol, gnome software has a same problem, again if did a workaround on terminal, again it updates just fine.
I always had issues with updates in the app/software center. They won't install. I have to remove the snap store in Terminal and install it again. After that the updates will install.
The error is caused from broken dependencies! Also the display manager needs to be purged and or reinstalled. I had the same issue as you did, looks complicated but it is an easy fix and the system will run perfectly. If on X11 switch to Wayland that too might help!
I'm currently using 22.04. After the whole thing with Red Hat and Fedora, I'm really contemplating moving my personal gear away from Canonical because I'm not convinced that they won't try to do the same thing in the future.
I would look heavily as Suse for enterprise use and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for personal use. Seriously, this was yet another LTS released before it was ready...
Debian is the obvious way to go. They are the "Tortoise" that wins the race. It's Quality, Appeal, Flexibility, Stability and Generousity. It's also got DEB, DPKG and APT.
I installed yesterday. Works good. Only issue i have is with a displaylink usb monitor. (I had trouble with it when i did 23.10 and cant remember what i did to fix it.)
You’re doing a great thing for us sir, I suggest if you make a video of installing a packet tracer on this version I’ve been trying with old version procedures but fails successfully 😢
While modern look init. I agree with you It is too fast in rolling update, is it even LTS? My Dropbox notification icon not working. Annoying every time I click on title bar free space and it is suggesting to window tilling. 22.04.04 had a update and started lagging my gnome terminal so I hurried to make a fresh install on my working machine. Now it made a history.
I was going to say this. The first number is the last two digits of the year (2006), and the number of the month (04 being delayed to 06, from April to June). Thus, it should be trivial to see how often Canonical delayed a release.
I upgraded to 24 lts right on the day of launch and boom, it blew up, had to use another laptop to boot up my pendrive and very shamelessly i installed 24 lts again, and everything seems to work fine and now my screen flickers and jitters. And over-all it is a good and stable distro but yes, shifting back to 22 and will upgrade maybe on 24.04.1 release
But Jay, they had to release it. I'm thinking, 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, then comes 24.04. Come rain, come watermelon they had to release 24.04 in April, 2 years after 22.04 came out. LTS release cycle is the law...
To prioritize release dates over quality is the same bs we have in the games area for a while now. Makes me rethink about using Ubuntu on the long term.
A couple more problems: Another You-Tuber, who was evaluating 24.04, said that he was disturbed that his install took over 30 minutes to complete. When I tried to install (NOTE the word TRIED), I gave up on the install after 90 minutes. I continued trying 4 more times and in each case aborted the effort after 90 minutes. I will try downloading a new .iso before trying again. Yeah, methinks this particular version is still buggy.
Given the xz backdoor led to one less week of testing, I'm not surprised. Then again, this and the last two LTS releases haven't been very stable at release (20.04 wasn't very good and 22.04 was a mismatch of GNOME and GTK apps).
@@cameronbosch1213 I never loaded 22.04, so can't comment on that; but, I had NO problem installing 20.04 (or 18.04, or 14.04, or 12.04) -- just 24.04. Oh, I DID install Unity 22.04 and had no problem with that.
I agree. An LTS should prioritize stability instead of deadlines. That said 24.04 improved performance a lot. Also it fixed the problem i had with my wifi disconnecting. I don't know how much of that is because of the kernel version.
Using gnome-tweaks to change the cursor and I get that Oh No whitescreen of death. I log out, reboot and whatever I do I get that whitescreen and have to reinstall Ubuntu
Some things will never change I'd love Ubuntu if it wasn't for bugs that just remain unfixed. Such as how for years and years apport would randomly pop up vague "there has been an error" dialogs, no context or explanation multiple machines, just always an issue until you disabled it altogether.
Congratulations on your Udemy course launch.🎉🌷 I wish i have it during my college year. I wasn't able to get deep into Linux until i found your book, a year after i got out college.
The whole 'we can't update apps because the app center is open and locked' bug has been around for years now. It's why I run all my updates from the terminal first, reboot if necessary, then open app center and check for anything missed. It's so stupid.
It's much better in 24.04 because the new App Center is only running when you actually have it open, unlike Gnome Software which is always running in the background. So the new App Center will upgrade just fine when snapd checks for updates every 6 hours.
There's that and I've also had an issue with firefox snap not being able to update on every config I've tried. As you said, right after install, i do the norm apt upd && apt upg then I do a snap refresh in terminal before even considering anything else. This seem to prevent the issue, and as @that_leaflet mentioned, once that initial refresh and update is done, everything runs just fine. Turned out to be beneficial to me in ways, being relatively new to Linux. A shitton of trial and error, and a mentally unhealthy desire to figure it out myself made a lot of the information I've absorbed over the past year or so really stick.
@voodooyam Yes, that functionality hasn’t been added yet. You can install third party devs through the command line (either through PPA or by apt installing from a local deb) or by installing an app that installs debs for you.
@@handle_your_set Same. Firefox snap was giving me so many troubles. I removed it and installed the deb.
@voodooyam Yeah, I ran into that issue as well. I had to install deb's from the command line.
Old IT guy here....
Rule of thumb...
Never update on Release day. Always wait for .1 or .2 release before updating. The .0 is the mess, .1 are the panic fixes and .2 is usually the actual release that should have happened.
Fedora 40 didn't have any issues on release. This is an Ubuntu issue
well its a moot point now since ubuntu doesnt even allow existing installs to upgrade to the latest version until the .1 comes out. You can test that right now if you have U22, you wont be able to upgrade to U24 till August or something
I agree with this conservative strategy, especially if you're using sensitive data on your computer
No data is lost in Ubuntu with the OOPS something went wrong error! That error is easy to fix and get up and running. Ubuntu CAN be configured so no sensitive data is exposed. The issues in Ubuntu ARE ALL EASY FIXES! If your in an IT field and your afraid to fix a little issue then you shouldn't be in IT.
The Rule of thumb is for the lazy IT person. If it ain't broken Break it and break it good.That's how you learn to fix it!!
That's my German rule of thumb.
@@Malte-Micha Ubuntu is not only used by IT professionals sir, it is also used by common end users like us who don’t know anything about technical things! for us it looks very unprofessional if even a single error comes in ubuntu or linux, because of these errors many users tend to run away from Linux. You cannot say this to new users that “if you can’t fix it, you shouldn’t use Linux”.
Small criticism apart, I've been noticing how GREAT things are right now.
Ubuntu is great right now. Fedora is amazing. Mint is better than ever. Arch is fantastic. Debian is insane good.
And it's not just distros: KDE is on a peak. GNOME is golden. Cinnamon is getting better and better on each release.
Everything is really, REALLY looking up in the Linux world. Everything.
I agree, only thing is missing now is the apps. I've been waiting 20 years now for a decent photoshop replacement.
@@snppls agree. i am still waiting for a good email client on linux.
Opensuse is doing good too
Pop!_OS is coming to get a great new desktop environment, too!
Agree 100%.
From the perception of the great majority of Ubuntu users the release cycle is every two years, not every six months. Even though I rarely use the intermediate releases myself I’m very happy they exist - it gives plenty of opportunity for testing new features, and must be very important for developers in particular.
same. also the idea of rushing for releases doesn't make sense. why would they rush? they can release it in the next cycle. it would apply more towards releasing every 2 years than every 6 months. Every 6 months takes the pressure off and having an LTS release version completely takes the pressure off. It also helps to push Ubuntu to improve and develop further, otherwise I can easily see them not doing much for 3/4s of that 2 year and eventually questioning why they have resources dedicated to it anyway. I mean, from my perspective, they have barely done anything in the last 4 years anyway. Actually I think for a lot longer than that. I also don't see them doing much for the next 2 years. They don't have an interest in it and their business model doesn't depend on changes done to ubuntu but rather changes not done to ubuntu. Or the changes done that don't apply to non-enterprise customers being completed while all others ignored pretty much.
8:28 this lock process issue has been around for years now. I stopped using Ubuntu the moment I discovered this issue. I should not have to go to terminal to refresh snap-store everytime I want to update my system in 2024. This is just not acceptable. So thank you for everything you did for me Ubuntu(Ubuntu brought Linux into my life), but I am moving on.
Fedora it is! The easiest hop I did from Kubuntu while wanting new GNOME and KDE.
@@HenryT You mean Fedora is better? how is it with Cuda/Docker?
@@OptaIgin Works great for me. I like the much newer packages too.
@@HenryT I run nobara (based on Fedora) for the game platform and Steam, just wow! I prefer KDE over Gnome based on design decisions.
The scaling problem is due to gnome, not ubuntu. Actually it is for the x11 session, Ubuntu starts the installer in an X11 session, we all know that x11 and fractional scaling are enemies.
thanks for that additional information. its really useful. but that still makes it an ubuntu problem. Ubuntu is using gnome which is fair, but they are releasing ubuntu, not gnome. If our car breaks down, we don't blame the component that broke down but the company for releasing an unreliable model. Ubuntu can use gnome for free but they have to take criticism on their behalf because I'm not using gnome, I'm using Ubuntu. I didn't install gnome, I don't know gnome. I know ubuntu and I installed it and it's broken. This is for Ubuntu, I'm not blaming you of course and the information you provided is insightful but I just wanted to add this.
Ah, so GNOME breaking yet another thing. How surprising.
yeah, he should first install it and then try it out. it's a lot better in wayland
The scalling bug at 7:11 and locking up the display seems to be an issue with GNOME on X11, it happened to me on the live installer (which uses X11) but not when installed which then uses Wayland
Not gonna lie, I'm glad you use real hardware for your tests. Gives a better impression than using a virtual machine.
I have had no problems with the Ubuntu 24.04 install. Now, I did a fresh install rather than an upgrade. I certainly didn't have the 4K Res issue or any of the other issues that you outlined. So far, so good.
Glad to hear it, I am going to do a fresh install on a testing laptop ... only a i3, if I like it and does what I need to do, I will get an i7 probably - more than enough for me.
The solution if you don't trust Ubuntu releases on or near release date: Don't install or attempt to use them anytime close to that date. Wait a month or two; hell, even five or six months if you're really paranoid. You could even wait until they release a 24.04.1 image with the first batch of updates and bug fixes built right into the image.
With a lifespan of five years, they are in no way forcing you to update any time soon. You could even wait, what, another three years or so for support of 22.04 (which is currently at 22.04.4) to end if you really wanted to, or skip 24.04 entirely and install 26.04 in a few years.
Fedora does not give you this kind of flexibility, and I can say that I have seen a release (somewhere in the mid 30s) of that distro that contained more crashes, bugs and problems in general than I've seen in any OS over the last two decades outside of ReactOS. It didn't just run poorly live on my actual hardware--it even failed within the relatively safe confines of a virtual machine, and installing it in that machine did not lead to a better system.
You nailed it bro 👍🏼 great, spot on comment. It should be pinned 😁👍🏼
In fact I switched from Fedora to Ubuntu because Fedora had a myriad of very little problems that didn't seem to get any attention but were annoying beyond belief, while Ubuntu might not be the most polished distro on release, but they'll usually try to fix those little bugs that harm the end user experience. And the LTS release is perfect for this. I'd say 22.04 wasn't really great up until a full year after it was released, but it eventually got to that point and there was never any rush to upgrade, so that works for me.
22.04 LTS is still the best LTS release for me personally
I still have servers running 20.04 LTS. They'll be upgrdaed to either 22.04 or 24.04 LTS later this year, but I certainly am in no rush, and don't feel rushed. I'm not running the six month releases on servers, and I doubt anyone else is either.
I do run the six month releases on my desktop, because I like having a newer GNOME and such, but that's a desktop.
I’ll have to check out what you were showing. The problem I had was with the installation. The installer crashed three times on me. The last time was after the install started. I checked system monitor and saw the processors were going pretty good so I assumed it was still going. When they flatlined, I rebooted the system. I booted it up fine into 24.04 after I had to choose which grub. It didn’t boot up to the 24.04 grub. I have a multi boot PC. I totally agree with you on the yearly schedule change. Every other year remaining LTS.
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I'm a huge Ubuntu fan, but that Snap store update issue? I think the first time I ran into that was 20.04. It absolutely should've been fixed by now.
yeah same. its insane its still not fixed. every time i have to update the store itself i have to kill the process and do a sudo snap refresh from the terminal because it cant update itself from the gui.
Thanks a lot for this. I'm trying to decide on a Linux for running a local LLM. Are the issues you mention solved by now? Thanks.
I had no issues with my 24.04 install and had a couple of crashes on my Fedora 40 install, but I wouldn't say Fedora 40 was rushed. I think you are not giving it a fair shake. Perhaps try it on another device?
Yeah, if anything, possibly due to the xz attempted attack, Ubuntu 24.04 was more rushed.
@@cameronbosch1213 Sure I guess. But he had similar issues with the installer on previous Ubuntu installs.
I have experienced the display resolution gnome crash too. It was quite confusing. I had to restart gnome entirely if I remember correctly. Pretty much made me pack up the distro right there. No way this is something that can be distributed publicly without the word beta next to it.
you have a valid point about the LTS releases targeting enterprise use, but the thing is, no LTS or even regular releases are allowed to be upgraded until the .1 release is out, and by then, usually the initial big bugs are sorted. you can of course download the release for new installs or whatever, but i also do an upgrade and they've never failed.
Yes and enterprises should never be using the newest version anyway. New features brings new bugs. When it's important, you want to use mature software.
You keep using the word “enterprise” but which enterprise customer is going to upgrade to an OS on day 1 of a release.
the fact that they can is a problem. If the error is on Ubuntu's side, then the error is on Ubunutu's side. They gave the go-ahead when they shouldn't have. Fire Ubuntu. That's the point.
Was looking forward to 24.04. I use acpi on my dvr and it was causing headaches in 22.04. I wanted the update to see if some of the problems would just go away. Thanks for the review.
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I just tried the Fedora 40 live DVD and had the small font issue. it also froze on me. I had to do a hard shutdown.
What???? You mean fedora isn't perfect?? How dare you?!?!? 😂This guy is just a hater. Ubuntu will never be fedora and will always suck in his mind.
As a software engineer turned manager, slowing down the release cycle will not result in fewer bugs. Slowing down the cycle will just lengthen the delay in the feedback loop. It's tempting to think that developers just need more time to work out the bugs, but that misunderstands how developers work and why bugs get shipped. A product that feels rushed is a result of poor project management and leadership leading up to the release. It's not that there wasn't enough time that went into the project before release, but that time wasn't properly allocated and managed throughout the development cycle.
I just upgrade my desktop from f39 to f40 and it went like a breeze. But installing Fedora from scratch is just not as neat as Ubuntu is now.
I tried that same upgrade and it failed miserably, and no way to roll it back even though btrfs supposedly has a snapshot feature. I don't mind an "experimental" distro, ...except when it blows up in my face.
Like a *Breeze* you say? I'll see myself out...
@@danfg7215 I've upgraded several machines from F39 to F40 without any trouble at all these last few days. Some of them have been upgraded all the way from F35.
@@danfg7215 Having now upgraded several computers from F39 to F40 without any problems, i think you must have somehow manually broken your system.
The app center bug is also a thing on 22.04
I was looking forward to this release - but fractional scaling for 4K screens is still an issue. At best , I get blurry fonts and, worst case application crashes. After using Mint / Ubunt for at least 8 years, I decided to run another distro with Plasma 6. Works great on 4K monitors.
I was waiting for the update notification on my wife's Framework 13 that's on 22.04. Looks like I'll wait a bit longer till they iron out the kinks (and actually send an update notification; I haven't seen one yet). I upgraded my Fedora KDE spin from 39 to 40 today and haven't run into any major bugs there. Only thing I've found till now is that if I have multiple browsers open and don't play audio for 10-20 minutes, my bluetooth headset picks the last browser that played any sound and ignores all of the others. I need to disconnect and reconnect again. For that to be the only "bug" I ran into was surprising to me, but then again, upgrades from 36 onwards have never given me any major grief.
Your studio looks so nice.
To get around the Snap error for the packages installer, is update the Snap store in CLI snap refresh I think it was, once it updates it's fine..
Great review! Most other youtubers don't even bother testing it for real. This type of bug of key functionality (here update and display scaling) is unacceptable in a LTS or entreprise release, you are right. I would be curious to see if this affects Lubuntu minimal install with no snapd...
The lack of KDE Plasma 6 on Kubuntu / Ubuntu Studio until October is a huge miss imo. That's one of the reasons I use a rolling release and why I think true point releases are dead outside of enterprise use cases, at least for the desktop environments.
Fedora model is great.
Those are side-distro with not a lot of work force behind it, so it is normal it take another 6 months to adjust it.
I'm still waiting for Tuxedo OS to move to KDE 6. We're in 5.27. We do have a slowed down rolling release cycle. Sometime this summer we'll be moving to the new Ubuntu LTS base and KDE Plasma 6.
Kubuntu with KDE has more quality than Ubuntu and Gnome.
u can think of it like this, when KDE Plasma 6 does release on those flavors, it will be much better.
23.10 has been very good for me... I'll stick with it for awhile.
Which enterprise need a GUI on server ? If I had an enterprise all I need is ssh as those would be pure work as server
Maybe Ubuntu could put out stable releases if they stopped imposing Snaps on us. No one would argue if they had spent that effort making Synaptic prettier.
I'll probably keep my Kubuntu 23.10 around until 24.10 when they'll finally include Plasma 6. At the very least I'll wait until 24.04.1. But what I'm really waiting for is Mint LMDE with Plasma 6.
Just use Tuxedo OS. It's Kubuntu but without Snaps and new KDE Plasma versions before Kubuntu.
thankfully, i haven't experienced the issues you noted with my 24.04 installs. while i do think they should delay if they need to, i really hope they don't change the release schedule. i like the new stuff in the interim releases
Cannot find your Linux Essentials Course?
10:32 I have that same graphical issue. I wonder if it’s due to nvidia.
I have upgraded to Linux Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS and the Chrome web app is not opening. What is the reason for this and why are there so many errors on my laptop? How can I find a solution?
Thanks, very good review!
The frequent releases doesn't have so much to do with users, but is more about the developer community. It reduces the difference between releases. Gnome is a very small part of Ubuntu and there are an enormous number of packages that fits together. Most people should not be on the cutting edge, because it always has a lot of sharp corners. A lot could be improved by simply changing the way they communicate with the public, because a big part of the problem is that users expectations are wrong. In reality, the polishing begins when a new version is out. There's nothing wrong with that approach as long as users don't think otherwise.
08:29 - well.... That's more than reasons to not like snap at all. For some mounths now, I am using arch based distro, like Manjaro or EndevourOS, with KDE Plasma 6 and need to say that's awesome.
Thanks for the review. I'm sorry about the bugs you encountered, and I hope that the bugs that you mentioned will be ironed out by the time the first point release comes out.
For the final part, where can I find the nginx html file that I can edit. Thanks!
Good review as always. I dont like to use ubuntu anymore since the introduction of snap. True. But i love ubuntu as the fundament of wonderful distros like Pop OS, Mint and Zorin! I hope these will be great again.😉 To give it credit, i tried 24.04 on many notebooks and desktops with different hardware, and all worked. Compared to fedora, the automatic ubuntu install of nvidia driver is awesome!
Will you be creating courses for LPIC-1 & LPIC-2?
I didn’t face any of the issues you were describing- all smooth and ready to go. I wonder what’s under the hood that made it so complicated for you.
Interesting video and I have subscribed. Nice to see someone that actually knows Linux and what he is talking about!
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I am going to test 24.0.4 soon, but seeing this video... is it worth instead installing a previous version ... for now?
In my world, there's only one Ubuntu release every two years, and it only prompted me to upgrade last week.
They should switch the DE to Plasma. I had been using Gnome for about 4 years because I wanted to use Wayland and Plasma was not stable with it. With Plasma 6, it's reasonably stable (occasionality the shell crashes, but that doesn't affect running apps, so it's not a big deal) and solved so many problems I had with Gnome. For beginners who are accustomed to Windows, Plasma should be more familiar than Gnome is. Since Ubuntu is sort of the beginner Linux, it should be Plasma.
I have 24.04 LTS installed on my Raspberry Pi 4 model B and another old x86 notebook, in both cases the Remote Desktop either crash or does not allow connection. It keeps on giving 0x270 error (password expired) despite that I have double checked my id and password. This is the biggest issue I have ran into so far and there seems to have no solution on internet.
Other than this the Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi 4 has been a good experience!
After updating to 24.04 lts ,my brightness control does not work🙃
Did he really say that 22.04 was bad because some app versions didn't match the desktop version? WTF Why do you need an updated calculator for every Gnome update?
I had app center lock on me with 23.10 so I just used terminal to update snap but I wondered if was just me and how other people would react to that
I'm struggling with the resizing of the apps when clicking the top toolbar. Almost always I missclick it and it goes crazy until y close everything. How can i disable this?
I can't even get it installed, or it hangs during boot after it installs.
Good review. Had the same problems with it when I looked at it. There is certainly an impression of it being "issue or be damned" mentality at Canonical. Like always, wait for .1
Amazing & fantastic review done by the expert user!
Nice reference to Windows 98. In recent years, I have found the whole Ubuntu thing becoming more like the MS/Windows attitude to its user base, which is why I switched to Linux Mint. I just might give Fedora 40 cinnamon spin a trial.
I mounted a Kubernetes cluster on top of Ubuntu 24.04 and it's doing amazing & very fast. Good job!
I've migrated an old optimus laptop to ubuntu 24.04 and it has been a disaster since the driver application doesn't recognize the dedicated 770M; I've installed the driver manually but it still looks like it's not working properly.
does citrix client work on it? can it be installed? usually i am having probblem installing citrix client on new releases
I am running 24 in a VM in Proxmox. (I am a newbie with Linux and Proxmox). Opens OK but I have the cursor for my Windows 11 (using to open and use the VM) and another small cursor that looks like the one for Umbutu 24.. They move around together, and occasionally on the home page of 24 the cursors begin blotting out a line as they move across the screen. You can completely delete/cover up any open app screen with the maroon color of the desktop, as if you were blotting out a picture using a photo processing application. Weird and makes this almost useless as I have to close and open the VM again....and start over.
I have upgraded from 23.10 to 24.04. No problems, it works fine. I had the snapd update problem with 22.04.
thanks for all you do, keep up the good work.
I don’t consider the LTS to be released until the first point release.
To be fair, Canonical pretty much feel the same way.
LTS needs more time to work properly with decent quality testing for enterprise environments. Agree fully - I won't be touching Ubuntu - even virtualised until 24.04.1 or even 24.04.2 - relying on this type of situation for production workstation operating systems is a crap show.
One thing I want to know, why did the devs remove compact mode for folders for the default program? I can't fathom why having less view of my files is better. I have to install Cinnamon.
As a newbie I have 24.04 and it is all going very well. If my pace keeps up I will only need Windows for my Boss effects pedals and Focusrite analog interface. Even then, there might eventually be a simple driver for the analog interface such that I could still get to the 4 analog ins and 4 analog outs. I figure with the effects pedals I can download a few tweaks now and then, but select manually. It is not that difficult. Today's goal is migrating and setting up my email. Wish me luck.
Just have freshly installed Ubuntu 24.04 from 22.04 and trust me it feels good but so many things are just crashing, this dude can even open appcenter I can't even open that , it became a hell of a thing for me cause I have erased the 22.04 and now I am here waiting for all the bug fixes 😢
tell u what is your dailt linux distro
What i love about Ubuntu is that if, god forbid your device gets corrupted or damaged (at least in my case) you can install Ubuntu via OEM which isnt something thats available for most distros, and it can extend the life of some devices!
I did had a same issues like that. Luckily, they can give this a point release just to fix the issues that is needed unlike a previous LTS (22.04) had a first point release that managed to fix the installer issues for NVIDIA users. Hopefully, they'll might fix the 4K or 8K issues about fractional scaled set to 200% by default like my iMac (2017 21.5 inch), if I tried that version on my iMac, small loading screen at second then upscaled it to 200% automatically to be a default. Yes, even I tried back in 23.04 (Lunar Lobster), same thing happen. However, my iMac's speaker won't work with Ubuntu but macOS, I'm not saying I'm switching back to macOS because it's trusted, I know apple ruined the trust due to claiming this "8GB ram is a same thing as 16GB ram (misleading claim)"
Time keeps flying just to waste their time, very delightful to say is not their fault, but it's a timer's fault.
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lol, I have a same problem about update snap store. The only way to fix that is either "sudo snap refresh snap-store" or "sudo snap refresh" if I did either way, it updates snap store just fine.
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Nope lol, gnome software has a same problem, again if did a workaround on terminal, again it updates just fine.
I always had issues with updates in the app/software center. They won't install.
I have to remove the snap store in Terminal and install it again. After that the updates will install.
I agree, they delayed 6.06, we would easily forgive them if they released 24.06 instead of 24.04
I'm so worried about this chronicles thing. Who or what is chronicle ?
The error is caused from broken dependencies! Also the display manager needs to be purged and or reinstalled. I had the same issue as you did, looks complicated but it is an easy fix and the system will run perfectly. If on X11 switch to Wayland that too might help!
I'm currently using 22.04. After the whole thing with Red Hat and Fedora, I'm really contemplating moving my personal gear away from Canonical because I'm not convinced that they won't try to do the same thing in the future.
I would look heavily as Suse for enterprise use and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for personal use. Seriously, this was yet another LTS released before it was ready...
I honestly don't think cannoical will get bought out by a large company and start closing off their source code.
@@eps-nx8zg Yeah, that's because Red Hat was bought out by IBM, and of course they need to make their money back, in the most unethical way possible.
@@eps-nx8zg I do doubt that Canonical would get bought out at this point in time.
Debian is the obvious way to go. They are the "Tortoise" that wins the race. It's Quality, Appeal, Flexibility, Stability and Generousity. It's also got DEB, DPKG and APT.
Hi jay, please create a video on how to setup a budget home lab for learning/practicing all the Linux and DevOps stuff.
I installed yesterday. Works good. Only issue i have is with a displaylink usb monitor. (I had trouble with it when i did 23.10 and cant remember what i did to fix it.)
WI-Fi is not working in 24.04.1
You’re doing a great thing for us sir, I suggest if you make a video of installing a packet tracer on this version I’ve been trying with old version procedures but fails successfully 😢
fail2ban doesn't work on Ubuntu Server 24.04 LTS :(
Propper 5.1 Channel Audio with 3 wire audio hookup without things being broken seems to be impossible to find and no one seems to be talking about it.
Jay: _9:05_
Community: *YES*
While modern look init. I agree with you It is too fast in rolling update, is it even LTS? My Dropbox notification icon not working. Annoying every time I click on title bar free space and it is suggesting to window tilling. 22.04.04 had a update and started lagging my gnome terminal so I hurried to make a fresh install on my working machine. Now it made a history.
how to make ubuntu with desktop enlightenment? is there an iso ready to use on the starter pendrive?
try server edition
It wouldn't even be unprecedented for Ubuntu to delay a release due to an issue. Version 6.04 was delayed to 6.06.
I was going to say this. The first number is the last two digits of the year (2006), and the number of the month (04 being delayed to 06, from April to June). Thus, it should be trivial to see how often Canonical delayed a release.
Great video 👍
There are valid arguments on both sides of this.
i'll wait to 24.04.1
Agree, I usually always wait for the .04.1 release. And I have used Ubuntu from the beginning of this grate OS, well today only the server version.
I upgraded to 24 lts right on the day of launch and boom, it blew up, had to use another laptop to boot up my pendrive and very shamelessly i installed 24 lts again, and everything seems to work fine and now my screen flickers and jitters. And over-all it is a good and stable distro but yes, shifting back to 22 and will upgrade maybe on 24.04.1 release
But Jay, they had to release it. I'm thinking, 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, then comes 24.04. Come rain, come watermelon they had to release 24.04 in April, 2 years after 22.04 came out. LTS release cycle is the law...
To prioritize release dates over quality is the same bs we have in the games area for a while now. Makes me rethink about using Ubuntu on the long term.
A couple more problems: Another You-Tuber, who was evaluating 24.04, said that he was disturbed that his install took over 30 minutes to complete. When I tried to install (NOTE the word TRIED), I gave up on the install after 90 minutes. I continued trying 4 more times and in each case aborted the effort after 90 minutes. I will try downloading a new .iso before trying again.
Yeah, methinks this particular version is still buggy.
Given the xz backdoor led to one less week of testing, I'm not surprised. Then again, this and the last two LTS releases haven't been very stable at release (20.04 wasn't very good and 22.04 was a mismatch of GNOME and GTK apps).
@@cameronbosch1213 I never loaded 22.04, so can't comment on that; but, I had NO problem installing 20.04 (or 18.04, or 14.04, or 12.04) -- just 24.04. Oh, I DID install Unity 22.04 and had no problem with that.
I installed very quickly. The only time consuming stuff I had was trying to remember what all the gnome add-ons I liked. Haha
I agree. An LTS should prioritize stability instead of deadlines. That said 24.04 improved performance a lot. Also it fixed the problem i had with my wifi disconnecting. I don't know how much of that is because of the kernel version.
If you view 24.04 as the replacement for 22.04, then there have been 2 years of feature upgrades too.
When i did mine desktops went fine... Server not so much cant have static ip loses internet started with the last update to 22.04 actually
Using gnome-tweaks to change the cursor and I get that Oh No whitescreen of death. I log out, reboot and whatever I do I get that whitescreen and have to reinstall Ubuntu
Wait, did you say "GNOME" and "improvement" in the same sentence?
Excellent review. Thank you.
I am current using Ubutun 24 from Win 11. But I dont know how to keep my screeen scale as Win 11 :((
Fractional scaling is not working in Gnome yet. For now it's only implemented in KDE. So you would need to use Kubuntu or any distro with KDE.
Some things will never change
I'd love Ubuntu if it wasn't for bugs that just remain unfixed. Such as how for years and years apport would randomly pop up vague "there has been an error" dialogs, no context or explanation multiple machines, just always an issue until you disabled it altogether.
Congratulations on your Udemy course launch.🎉🌷 I wish i have it during my college year. I wasn't able to get deep into Linux until i found your book, a year after i got out college.