Reflex Bag Review and Demonstration

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
  • Ray White's Midwest Martial Arts Muay Thai, Kali and Mixed Martial Arts.
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    eeMore.com and MaxxMMA asked us to preview some of their new offerings. I was pleasantly surprised at how much fun this piece of equipment was to train on. Great for beginning students and still a fair workout for more experienced athletes. Definitely a good starting point if you find a double end ball too fast or too hard to control.
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Комментарии • 240

  • @sbdunksandsnapbacks4655
    @sbdunksandsnapbacks4655 7 лет назад +229

    that jumping knee was super slick. i tried it and hit my head on the ceiling.

  • @michaelcorleone9930
    @michaelcorleone9930 4 года назад +3

    I hit mine with an uppercut and popped the bag... these are fun like he said for beginners but if you have the space go with the heavy/speed bag combo. Thanks for taking your time for us with the video!

  • @curtshaw8150
    @curtshaw8150 9 лет назад +315

    Dont punch slow just because the bag rebounds slowly. I think its better to wait for it to come up more, TIME the shot, and pop it quickly. Dont get in the habit of throwing slow punches.

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  9 лет назад +39

      Agreed!

    • @memocampos1347
      @memocampos1347 9 лет назад +4

      Agreed also!

    • @shadymcgrady2328
      @shadymcgrady2328 9 лет назад +39

      +Curt Shaw i disagree. for a beginner u concentrate on the fundamentals and technique first. know matter how slow. so slow in the beginning for a beginner is a good. disagree with that !! paTNNNA!

    • @MrGA555
      @MrGA555 7 лет назад +3

      Um, its a demo video...

    • @BearsArms45
      @BearsArms45 7 лет назад

      Curt Shaw agreed. I find myself punching slowly sometimes so I'll focus on popping the punches fast then snapping back to high covers or various guards and letting the bag hit me.

  • @MauroGuedes
    @MauroGuedes 6 лет назад +165

    I can't avoid thinking your neighbor form the lower floor listening to it and thinking "damn, there goes that maniacal again with that old spring mattress!"

    • @MartinJutras
      @MartinJutras 5 лет назад +1

      lol

    • @WalksandSuch
      @WalksandSuch 4 года назад +7

      lol literally. I live on a 4th floor apartment and have a reflex bag, I don't know if my downstair neighbors notice, but if they do, at least they think it's just sex lol

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад +5

      You have to be courteous to your neighbors for sure! LOL

  • @marklaska8358
    @marklaska8358 8 лет назад +4

    I cut a foam noodle so it can wrap around the metal. It provides some protection. Also, I lightly hit the foam to get better at closing the gap with a low kick.

  • @hasta8016
    @hasta8016 4 года назад +2

    Hi from France, thank you very much for your video, as beginner your instructions are very helpful!

  • @yardtoot4780
    @yardtoot4780 7 лет назад +162

    They need to make these models faster

  • @rangersasc
    @rangersasc 4 года назад +2

    Spring at the bottom =s slowest - spring nearer the top are fastest - Cobra Reflex bag top notch. This is a good beginner bag

  • @skater4lifemelbell
    @skater4lifemelbell 5 лет назад +2

    I did not even think about adding a weight to the bottom. Thank you for the tips!! Going to try blocking and jump knees now.

  • @DC-sz6tk
    @DC-sz6tk 8 лет назад +6

    Its pretty decent, if you want the real thing join a boxing gym. This a great product for those with limited space who still want to participate in light to medium reflex work out. Theres benefits to everything our job is to find them.

  • @cruz25617
    @cruz25617 7 лет назад +1

    Just got one today. Noticed it's easy to tip over, so i tried putting my weight's on it, except that mines were those cheap small plastic ones that wouldn't fit too well. But damn i love this bag. Whoever said bags don't hit back, hasn't been smacked by this bag at the rebound. You gotta be careful not to hit to low or else you'll hit the metal portion of it. (It all makes sense now, never did understood why that was their beforehand on some bags). It works up a sweat definitely. I try working around it, dodging, or hitting straight, trying to keep it wobbling only forward an back sometimes, to work on my straights punches. Or side to side to work the hooks and crosses. I also practice super short throws to get a feel of fighting in confined spaces. After that, i started looking for videos on the tube, and that's when i found you're video. great demonstration, and i was even surprised to find that you too used weights to support you're bag. Except actual bigger metal weights, then the shitty plastic cement filled ones that i have lol. And the ending of you're video is just painfully adorable. And i definitely will get my son to have a go later on when he gets big enough. He's just (2 1/2) , in all honestly, he's a tough little dude who hits pretty hard. I got him little boxing gloves and even found a little heavy bag. And he wrestles with this funny cute toy rubber goat that's bigger then he is. So, i think our kids will do alright in school lol. Although i'm not trying to raise a bully neither, so he receives discipline as well. Teach them young so they grow up with it. What i always say.

  • @curiusrex
    @curiusrex 9 лет назад +106

    You give the training with the reflex ball a new meaning man. Thanks. Great demo. I just decided to add one to my home training equipment.
    Keep up the good work :)

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  9 лет назад +3

      I completed a double end ball and speed bag video too! Let me know if you guys have questions!

  • @knightlykin1499
    @knightlykin1499 9 лет назад +24

    Looks perfect for practicing dodges with. If you can reduce the amount of times you get struck in a fight, you'll increase your chances of success being that you'd take less kinetic force than your opponent. Not to mention dodging their punches wears them out as well.

  • @jimgeorgiev8105
    @jimgeorgiev8105 5 лет назад +1

    these are fun to use for sure. i have an everlast one but its not too strong. it broke but i modified it for body strikes

  • @zanaq3
    @zanaq3 4 года назад +6

    thank you for explaining! my brother just got one of these and I wanted to know how to best utilize it, and this video was really helpful!

  • @hardstock07
    @hardstock07 10 лет назад +7

    I always use the heavy wide bag 150 and skinny 100lbs bags, this is good, you move around and punch it, even with hooks and upper cuts-elbows and blocks as well. But I couldn't see myself doing round house or front leg kicks, i might brake it unless I used it for timing and for techniques

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  10 лет назад +1

      Yes, Manny, this bag I think is best for upper body strikes only. I will be sharing a Heavy bag demo soon, and I will add the leg kicks and combinations too!

  • @basslinger
    @basslinger 8 лет назад +8

    I need to get my 10 year old doing what your girls are doing, good work and thanks for the videos sir!

  • @rorschach8167
    @rorschach8167 5 лет назад

    I'm glad I watched it until the end. That kid is working the bag is super cute!

  • @Popes2k
    @Popes2k 5 лет назад +8

    Your demo tipped me over t
    he edge to get one.... Cheers

  • @andrewzhere
    @andrewzhere 10 лет назад +1

    looks awesome, i was told not to get one of these by a mate but since i moved to a smaller place difinatley getting one but i think i might end up looking like that little girl at the end

  • @mercer13b
    @mercer13b 5 лет назад +2

    I practice peak a boo style on mine,it is really helpful in teaching me how to slip

  • @mokyan7
    @mokyan7 7 лет назад

    Nice work, looks like it can help eye hand coordination, depth perception, targeting, motion, I like how you blended elbow strikes too.

  • @Vinnamese
    @Vinnamese 9 лет назад

    Ray...you're a fucking genius for putting a weight on the stand! I am definitely getting a reflex bag now!

  • @chevyswag3432
    @chevyswag3432 7 лет назад +8

    perfect.. I'm getting this instead of a punching bag😎

  • @ronaldjerrimmy4659
    @ronaldjerrimmy4659 4 года назад +1

    Thank you dude for the vid I just got one them bags your demonstration is appreciated

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад

      Thank you for the positive feedback!

  • @zrinka36
    @zrinka36 8 лет назад

    Best review so far, i learned so much watching you move and what i can do to better bag for myself. No 1Teacher

  • @timothytucker4509
    @timothytucker4509 10 лет назад +4

    Thanks for the demo. I just bought one on a whim and was looking for a decent way to use it. You just motivated me to work this thing. Thanks again.

  • @martinlee2739
    @martinlee2739 9 лет назад

    I never thought of doing that.. I have 45 plates all over the place, great tip, gonna do that now for weight to hold down my stand... awesome you got your lil princesses learning those skills!! peace

  • @erai5595
    @erai5595 6 лет назад +4

    I like how everyone says its too slow. BUY A SPEED BAG THEN! 😂 , I wouldn't want that bar flying back at me super fast anyways. Nice video im gonna have to invest in one of these.

  • @conors4430
    @conors4430 4 года назад

    good review. I just got myself a reflex bag and am trying to find a way to increase the spring tension so it doesn't fly away to the same extent. I should add that i am blind so obviously I am needing the bag to return to where I am punching as quickly as possible. Unfortunately at the moment I just don't have the set up for a heavy bag and boxing gives me the best work out i've ever had and isn't boring like other exercises. Anyone reading this who has come up with some make shift ways of getting the bag to return to it's starting position quicker would be welcome. Cheers

  • @salientfilm
    @salientfilm 10 лет назад +1

    thank u!! now i can add this to my new studio to get list. keep up the great work!

  • @danielounaskari8755
    @danielounaskari8755 7 лет назад +3

    The cobra bag from Ringside is Simply the best, too bad they don't make they any more

  • @dannymiller7187
    @dannymiller7187 5 лет назад +1

    It seems like things on video are always moving slower than in real life, especially when being filmed with a phone and not some professional camera. But if the bar was stationary at the bottom and had the spring part in the middle of the bar than it would move a lot faster, when it moves from the bottom it has a lot more space to move and it’s going to slow it down a lot.

  • @multiwookash8909
    @multiwookash8909 4 года назад +1

    Nice presentation! Cheers!

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад

      Thanks man! I appreciate your support!

  • @mtb4rx915
    @mtb4rx915 10 лет назад +8

    Great review! The ending part is classic!

  • @bryanthomassmith87
    @bryanthomassmith87 10 лет назад

    This doesn't look half bad as a piece of training equipment. I've seen something similar to this but on a smaller scale. Russian boxer, Vasyl Lomachenko, ties one end of an elastic string to the brim of a hat and the other end to a tennis ball. As he punches the tennis ball, it shoots out and comes back at different angles, forcing him to track it with his eye and adjust his punches. It achieves a similar purpose as this.

  • @jessicas237
    @jessicas237 5 лет назад

    There is a similar but more function equipment sold on the Amazon which name "spinning bar".I used to buy one fron Innolife

  • @alinux09
    @alinux09 4 года назад +1

    Thanks

  • @solrac4600
    @solrac4600 4 года назад +1

    Nice work

  • @okkai
    @okkai 7 лет назад

    Awesome. I just got one of these and I needed some movement inspiration

  • @tf4151
    @tf4151 3 года назад +1

    Congratulations

  • @reddawg1709
    @reddawg1709 9 лет назад

    I am getting one soon. I am using it for taekwondo training. it be good for me and my techniques.

  • @duelknight69
    @duelknight69 4 года назад +1

    Nice review. I think i need this during this times. Hey can the spring be adjusted to the middle for quicker bounce and return?

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад +1

      There is an adjustment bar that prevents the bending angle. Or get the newer versions w the spring high up as those are faster.

  • @sirmonkey3215
    @sirmonkey3215 4 года назад

    Thanks for the vid.. Got one. No gloves or pump included, but the ball i also somekind of plastic foam not with air inside. Guess an upgrade from that version.

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад

      Did you buy the Everlast? That’s the only solid head/bag I’ve seen.

    • @sirmonkey3215
      @sirmonkey3215 4 года назад

      @@RayWhiteMMA Yeah i bought an Everlast. Been good so far..

  • @hardstock07
    @hardstock07 10 лет назад +2

    Yes, that be nice please, I can't wait to see the video-:)

  • @jesusiskingofkingsz
    @jesusiskingofkingsz 4 года назад +1

    great tool

  • @pcbacklash_3261
    @pcbacklash_3261 6 лет назад +1

    Oh man...watching the kids at the end. That's adorable! :-D

  • @StreetBeefsFighter
    @StreetBeefsFighter 6 лет назад +1

    Nice thank you man I appreciate the content

  • @CommKommando
    @CommKommando 8 лет назад

    Nice review. Im gonna buy the ringside reflex bag. Its the most heavy duty & its only $99

  • @kadejohnson4729
    @kadejohnson4729 4 года назад +1

    Now over 1 million views!

  • @thebabypie8896
    @thebabypie8896 4 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @selcukturkoglu4530
    @selcukturkoglu4530 8 лет назад +1

    I'd like buy this for training at home. Dou you recommend it? I heard some complaints about, such as it collapses too early, can be broken easily from the bottem and the ball breaks off.

  • @daraquinn2870
    @daraquinn2870 4 года назад +1

    Are you able to adjust the spring for a faster reflex when you hit it ?

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад

      Yes you can stiffen it so it doesn’t bend as far.

  • @fabiensanchez8965
    @fabiensanchez8965 7 лет назад +1

    Good démonstration !

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  6 лет назад

      +Fabien Sanchëz thanks Fabien

  • @ozkarnio8417
    @ozkarnio8417 4 года назад +1

    Ola
    Yo me hice una pero con el resorte más fuerte para tener más velocidad. 👍🥊

  • @MikePreset
    @MikePreset 5 лет назад +1

    Man thanks for a great review!

  • @drumilzaveri8956
    @drumilzaveri8956 8 лет назад +2

    Is it recommended to use the ball with gloves or is it just fine without them ?

    • @jeebi8326
      @jeebi8326 8 лет назад +1

      if your gonna hit it hard, it is recommended to wear gloves and if you have strong bones you can just not wear it.

    • @jeebi8326
      @jeebi8326 8 лет назад

      I didn't wear my glove, so now my wrist hurts a little.

  • @JeeSingh21
    @JeeSingh21 8 лет назад +1

    cant find this particular bag anywhere. are the everlast ones as good?

    • @jeebi8326
      @jeebi8326 8 лет назад

      yea, they're pretty good as well

  • @josedomingo4135
    @josedomingo4135 5 лет назад +4

    It starts al 5:25.

  • @garyrousseau8421
    @garyrousseau8421 8 лет назад

    Nice. Good explanation.

  • @piatp
    @piatp 6 лет назад

    What gloves are good to use? My husband has one in the garage and I want to try using it too.

  • @PeterPan-kz2si
    @PeterPan-kz2si 8 лет назад +7

    For 99$ not bad! Great for kids. Also solution for the bar being hit a pool noodle and some duct tape would work on the cheap. 👍🏼

  • @richardleston5237
    @richardleston5237 8 лет назад +85

    is it too loud for an apartment?

    • @hueyfreeman9333
      @hueyfreeman9333 7 лет назад

      Richard Leston Exactly my question

    • @bporter8103
      @bporter8103 7 лет назад

      Richard Leston 4

    • @donmk2364
      @donmk2364 7 лет назад

      No ive got one here and im 14.but im punching really hard it isnt too loud just a bit sound.

    • @boatmonk191
      @boatmonk191 6 лет назад

      Yeah for me it pretty lound with that spring and the sound of hitting bag

    • @eclipseesphougus244
      @eclipseesphougus244 5 лет назад

      Richard Leston no

  • @leebartlett1755
    @leebartlett1755 4 года назад

    Really good demo. Can anyone tell me what amount of space I'd need to properly work out on this?

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад

      Probably a good 10x10 area so you can circle around it. but if you had a narrow area you'd just have to adjust how you use it.

  • @brandonhudson3744
    @brandonhudson3744 8 лет назад

    I need me one of these...would be quite useful.

  • @garywillacey9979
    @garywillacey9979 7 лет назад

    If you have a shed or garage with a decent wooden or metal beam then a Floor to ceiling ball is a far better tool for this type of thing. They don't cost too much & you will get a far better workout on one. Check them out on RUclips, there are lots of good videos.
    Thanks for the video. Bless

  • @pixelninja2926
    @pixelninja2926 6 лет назад +1

    Can it be used as cardio workout

  • @jasonhutson8584
    @jasonhutson8584 7 лет назад

    dear mr. white.
    I just got one of these and it looks just like yours. but i destroyed the head. i punched it so much and now it wont hold air. any idea where i can get a new head?

  • @hustlelife80
    @hustlelife80 9 лет назад +1

    I have an everlast Worldwide reflex bag I am not to happy with.......have you used the everlast Bag, if yes how would u compare it to this product???

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  9 лет назад +1

      Robert Gomez Haven't used the everlast one, but if I remember it has more joints in it so it moves a little differently. You may want to try a double end ball if you are looking for more challenge.

  • @mehmetarga8110
    @mehmetarga8110 6 лет назад +1

    3:50 whats the name of the gloves youre taking please

  • @MIKA44492
    @MIKA44492 8 лет назад

    just got mine but and having an issue with it. I don't think im punching it too hard? but ive used it twice and the bottom of the leather is starting to rip? Is anyone else having this problem?

  • @david_1630
    @david_1630 5 лет назад +1

    Can you move the spring to a differnet height

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  5 лет назад

      No spring itself does not move.

  • @hichemhamidi8985
    @hichemhamidi8985 8 лет назад +1

    Should I get this or a heavy bag????

  • @Brandon-ob9rg
    @Brandon-ob9rg 6 лет назад +3

    How loud is this thing? Can I use it in an apartment?

  • @samlau7948
    @samlau7948 8 лет назад +1

    The spring on your one looks rather softer compared to mine, small jabs dont make mine swing twice until i hit the crap out of it.. Is mine normal?

    • @beanzy1891
      @beanzy1891 7 лет назад +2

      buk lau lol nice name ya yours is normal mine is the same way he has a different reflex bag

  • @aals3866
    @aals3866 4 года назад +1

    its satisfying

  • @cam553
    @cam553 6 лет назад

    Who makes the brand with the spring near the ball? They rebound fastest.

  • @jaysonfrancisco3516
    @jaysonfrancisco3516 9 лет назад

    Does this help with hand speed for boxing ?? These free stand bags ??

  • @joseph519r
    @joseph519r 7 лет назад

    Which do you prefer between this one and the double end ball? thanks @ray white

  • @ZWATER1
    @ZWATER1 7 лет назад

    Ty

  • @noejacobo1045
    @noejacobo1045 10 лет назад +16

    I need to learn how to use mine more like you

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  10 лет назад +5

      Thanks, keep practicing and have fun!

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  6 лет назад +1

      I just added some new drills for the reflex bag. Check my channel!

  • @user-uq9po5xm1l
    @user-uq9po5xm1l 3 года назад

    Can you give me the link to those gloves please

  • @samersawan7844
    @samersawan7844 7 лет назад

    i need one of these.

  • @Zuzuzazazizi
    @Zuzuzazazizi 4 года назад

    How hard can it take the punches ? Do we have to go slow on it bcz i punch really hard and thats what i love to do

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад +1

      You can punch fast and snappy, but not hard like a heavy bag.

  • @GrapplersQuest
    @GrapplersQuest 8 лет назад

    Thank you for posting this Amazing clip. I hope everyone subscribes to show YOU support. Keep up the excellent work and we will see you at a Grapplers Quest event next year!

  • @xdvert2042
    @xdvert2042 5 лет назад +1

    Hi would this be a good b day present because im going to get this for my 16 year old nephew so would this be suitable 🥊😊👍👍

  • @49ers_red_and_gold83
    @49ers_red_and_gold83 9 лет назад

    Great workout Ray, i just bought me one from Everlast. your 6'2 , 185 shouldn't you be in the 200?

    • @algierssolja
      @algierssolja 9 лет назад

      I am curious does your Everlast reflex bag still work? Mine broke after a month. The metal pipe in the middle of the spring broke and the entire ball and pole assembly took flight in my home gym nearly destroying a flat screen TV.
      Any one who is a beginner and on the fence trust me these things are fun. Just not many fair priced options. The Everlast reflex bag is 70bux and they only last a few weeks of moderate use.

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  9 лет назад

      both of ours our still good, one at the gym, one at home.

    • @algierssolja
      @algierssolja 9 лет назад

      +Ray White (MMA Coach) cool, I just got tired of looking for a good one that would not break at the spring. I ended up just getting a ringside 9" double end bag and some bungie from home Depot. I also found a tennis ball size double end ball in Walmart. As much as i liked my Everlast reflex bag they are just cheaply made. Maybe the cobra and the max mma are better.

  • @ovodose7006
    @ovodose7006 6 лет назад +3

    Can you fill it with sand aint that heavier and more stable?

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  6 лет назад

      Sand and water together works great.

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  6 лет назад

      I like to add sand then water. That’s the heaviest. Then add a weight plate if needed.

  • @pierpaolo5066
    @pierpaolo5066 4 года назад

    How can i modify the reflex bag to get it back faster?

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад

      some models have a spring tensioner that firms up the movement, or you can get one with the spring in the middle or top. The higher up, the faster the motion.

  • @raiyu1985
    @raiyu1985 9 лет назад +19

    This equipment is so cute underrated. I bought it, set it up, then few minutes later I am sweating my armpits.

  • @theeuprise
    @theeuprise 5 лет назад

    great review!

  • @batman6942
    @batman6942 4 года назад

    I don't use gloves, when i first started my knuckles would bleed now they don't and it feels so good hitting without gloves just gotta get your hands conditioned to it

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  4 года назад +1

      I did that when I was younger and started getting sore tendons on the knuckles. I don't recommend it. You want to have good hands when you're 50 like me!

    • @batman6942
      @batman6942 4 года назад

      @@RayWhiteMMA thanks for the advice i appreciate it, im gonna start wearing gloves so i don't mess up my hands.

  • @FetusbakonFetusbakon
    @FetusbakonFetusbakon 6 лет назад

    Good for kids. Would be nice if it went taller and had stronger springs to add.

  • @lowkeykeylow5526
    @lowkeykeylow5526 5 лет назад

    Mines about 6 ft I throw a double jab then front head kick just got mine tonight

  • @thepetrockthrowback
    @thepetrockthrowback 8 лет назад

    nice work

  • @phillipclark111
    @phillipclark111 5 лет назад

    The models with the spring in the center move a lot quicker!

  • @brianarthur5674
    @brianarthur5674 7 лет назад +2

    double end bag all day

    • @RayWhiteMMA
      @RayWhiteMMA  7 лет назад +1

      +Brian Arthur I like a double end bag too. The main difference is availability and convenience.

  • @rm5608
    @rm5608 6 лет назад +2

    Found one in the trash today son knocked the top off dented hardwood floors

  • @kratos69sigrun89
    @kratos69sigrun89 5 лет назад

    I need this