67. Removing the LPG (Propane) Gaslow cylinder from my campervan
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2022
- Best watched at double speed unless you're some kind of masochist, this is largely half an hour of my legs sticking out from under the van while I grumble about why I can't remove bits. But the gist is that I was taking out the filler pipe for the Gaslow tank, along with the tank itself. This is Part 1 of the process, part 2 will come when I've done it.
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It's nice to see somebody doing DIY that doesn't have a Hydraulic lift and a £20,000 workshop and every tool ever made. :)
Settled down to see your video when, for no apparent reason, I suddenly thought I would have a mature Cathedral City cheese sandwich with it whilst I watched...
Perfect 🙂
Delicious
Ooooooooh, a thirty minute Vandemonium!?!? I'm making some popcorn for this!
Congratulations on your new house and look forward to lots of van videos.
No more contorting!! I am watching with a twanged back so I do sympathize!!!!!
yet again, i have just had my lunch (cheese on toast since you ask - with tommy-k, obviously), watching a middle-aged man faff about around and under a teeny-tiny van - often with his legs akimbo - not entirely seeming to know exactly what he's doing, and... ...I LOVED it! :)
Hahaha thank you
Davis it’s good to see you enjoying projects on you van. I hope you back settled down and did not get worse. Cheers!
Good idea to leave the gas locker in situ and instal the diesel tank in it. That way if you accidentally spill any diesel when filling the tank it won’t get into the domestic side of the van. Jeff
You seem so much happier since the last few videos when you were still on the boat. I hope that continues for you and I am sure it will. Good luck.
What a grand vlog….you didn’t hear me when I shouted out ‘you’ll have to look at your old vlogs David’!!! So good you are back to the van and congratulations on your new wee hoose. Happy days for you but I still miss your wee boat.
I can;t believe I have just spent half an hour watching a bloke rolling about on the floor under a van. But I have and I enjoyed it. Thanks.😂
Haha good!
You’ve got a house! Excellent. Just in time for winter. Perfect. I think you’re very sensible getting rid of gas in the van. The alternatives are much safer. You’re also very sensible taking a break at the first sign is a back twinge. Take it easy - nothing worse than a painful back!
Batteries and huge Amp draw is just as catastrophic as gas if it all goes wrong.
99.9999999 of campervans and Motorhomes have onboard gas, and yes of course you get the odd van go up in flames, but look how many of these brand new electrical cars are catching fire 🔥
@@matterhorn1975 almost none of them.
I know the twang feeling, it's not fun. Experience tells me that a week of no contortions might be the wisest course of action, if your time table allows for that. Otherwise, Aspirin has proven to be a wonderful way to turn yourself from immobile to barely mobile, but mobile.
Other than that, great video! 🙂
I'm much better now, thanks!
Like a blind man doused in petrol and approaching a lit firework he's been told is just in front of him. It's actually nice to see someone being careful around gas bottles, they can be rather frisky.
Always keep a big sheet of cardboard for when its rained and you need to be on your back under a vehicle!!👍😉 my go to is a folded and stored fridge box i kept for that exact purpose!
Great suggestion!
I feel like David chats to the van even when the camera isn’t on. Not that I have room to talk. I chat to everything in my house. 😆
Hello.
My advice is to keep the gas locker in place. It’ll support the tank and keep the chance of spills down. I’d also not block up (too tightly) the old gas drain. It’ll help in case of spills and allow diesel smell to vent. While unsure what your van is and how big it is I’d be reluctant to go bigger than a 2kW heater from what I can see of it. While diesel heaters have a range of heat settings (2kW have their lowest output at ~800W) to lessen the chance of carbon build up they should be run reasonably hot and not on their lowest setting for extended periods so don’t get a bigger heater than you need. A simple test is to run an electric fan heater in your van. If a 2kW electric fan heater is more than enough then a 2kW diesel heater will be (though the diesel heater puts a fair chunk of heat into the exhaust).
While it’s your van and your rules, I’d steer away from the cheap diesel heaters. I’ve been very, very pleased with my Autoterm 2kW diesel heater. Pricewise these are significantly above the Chinese variants, but below the German ones. Features and build-wise it’s pretty close to the German ones and the parts are readily available, good quality and the whole range is coherent and well supported. The electronics, diagnostics and fuel tubing and fuel pump (for example) are also good. It’s these points (inc the coherent range) I like the most. I have no conflict of interest and no reason to not recommend. From my research and experience the fuel pump and fuel tubing, plus air system control (fan and electronics) are key to efficient and long term good performance.
You’re right about the diesel tanks the heaters come with. They are generally wide and fairly flat; mine was 10L but I plumbed into the vehicle tank on the fuel return line (many reasons). The interior tanks are meant to be positioned athawtships to lessen front to back sloshing on acceleration and braking. You might need something a bit squarer, which could be >10L but you choose not to fill too full instead. There are loads of options out there including whether to pick up fuel via the cap (simplicity) or side (poss greater chance of failure / leaking). Siting the pump is really important and the locker might be a good spot depending on where you put the heater etc.
Cheers, yes I'm getting an Autoterm 2kW, it will be plenty (the existing LPG heater is 2kW)
Hope the back is feeling better! Here is a hack for you…next time you have a good size cardboard box, flatten it and keep it around for when you have to go under vehicles and the like. Learned that trick from my dad…
Good to see you again, hope the house aspect of life is working out for you, and look after your back. See you when you're better.
Thank you - part 2 has just been uploaded!
No sign of a 'persuader' hammer in your tool kit. Local radio at its finest.Worthy of a BAFTA.
Good to see a new Vandimonium vlog!
I love listening to your rambling chatter…it’s very calming.
Yay! Welcome back. I hadn't realised how much I had missed your DIY projects. 😀
I was going to offer advice, but then I remembered that post-production time is a thing that exists, and so by the time I got around to watching this video, you've probably already finished up the entire job, so I'll just enjoy the show!
Forgot to say hope your back has recovered, for goodness sake please be careful xx
So funny to watch and very relateable (is that a word?) Whenever I start what I think will be a short job...I find I have to remove a bumper or something equally complex. There is no simple DIY!
True!!
I find that lots of five-minute jobs take a week to shift everything that is in the way - first!
Yes, relateable is a word !!
You probably already know but that steel plate around your gas burner (the portable one) lifts off, you reverse it for cooking as it has the pot stands attached. When off, you can easily examine the burner and why it's out of line.
I did not know! Cheers
I was going to write the same thing. You can't turn the gas on without that in the correct place.
@@Vandemonium 👍👍
I was just coming on to say the same thing about the plate being upside down. My partner once lit the cooker without turning it.....It got a bit singed 🤷♀️
Congrats on the house! Hope your back feels better soon.
Hope your back feels better soon. We are always so entertained by your videos. Thank you!
Hahaha! Gotta love workin on vehicles! Never having the right tools in reach, less than ideal conditions, rusted/stripped nuts and bolts, forgetting the order of operations, constant up and down, and spiders dropping down to say hi, probably was going to build a web inside your ear to lay eggs! 😱😀 I nominate you to be inducted into our prestigious and much sought-after club, "The Shade Tree Mechanics"! Busted knuckles, sore backs, and loads of "whispered mutterings" are required. Fine job my friend!
Hey James, I have been there and done that too many times as you obviously have also. I have never made a list of the undesirable parts though, if I did this first, I would probably pass on the job. I think the natural flow of appropriate curse words during the job is tied to our human nature.
David, you are a hopeless mechanic, but a laugh a minute to watch!
Was just thinking - what he lacks in expertise, he more than makes up in enthusiasm, so it's all good. Keep Calm And Carry On.
You make me want to get a van and have fun with it touring around.
Glad to see you got everything moved into your home before the holiday season. Hope you have a wood burning fireplace, enjoy the holiday season and gift us at least one seasonal reading. All the best.
Hype!! So glad to see van vids back in the works. Looking forward to the next part of questioning why you built something a particular way.
Ah David, this was like watching the Royal Bomb Disposal Unit in the beginning...!
Hello from Nashville Tennessee. I am so happy to see a new video up. David my wife and truly enjoy your content. We are pleased to hear you finally found a house. Can't wait for your next video.
David, you have an amazing talent for turning a dry, mundane task like removing a propane cylinder into a very entertaining adventure!
Actually as a mechanic for 46 yrs I can tell you to be very proud that you figured out an easier way to accomplish a task!
Congratulations on getting into a house! I hope that continues to a very satisfying and trouble-free conclusion for you and you get peacefully settled.
I also remember when you first got that spiffy red jacket and got some lock grease on it. It must wash up very well, it looks brilliant!
These tinkering videos are great, lots achieved in 30 minutes👍
An enjoyable watch, as always, and I shall be following your diesel heater installation with interest as I am currently doing mine. Hope that back is ok now, David. 🙂
Could watch you work all day😀😀😀
Enjoyed watching this part of the process. I'm not a fan of gas, so I'm happy to see a van conversion that doesn't (or soon won't be) using gas and seeing how it goes for you.
Phew, something without politics to watch. I'm grateful to see something real. Cheers
Hello, I like watching you work on projects. Hope and pray your back recovers. Best regards, Gloria
Good call on stopping when you feel that first twinge. If you push on you'd be laid up for weeks recovering.
good vid dave cool see work on the van thanks lee
Entertaining and enjoyable. Great viewing
great to see you doing things again David, hope that your back is better, I know that feeling well.. your refit sounds interesting and hope to see more of you putting the electric in and the heater. maybe need to make yourself a wheeled tray thing to lie, ( which you can pad with foam to make a bit more comfortable ) on so when your on the ground not lying in/on the wet ground, does not need to be very high of the ground.. well it's just an idea made one for myself and gave to my mechanic nephew and he loves it..
Getting our van in October I will be following your instructions
Thanks
Goodness me, no; these are categorically *not* instructions and you should use your own judgement and the Gaslow information to install. This is merely a document about how I chose to do it.
Hadn't heard that you had got a house! Lovely! 🏡
David….you are a hoot! I really enjoyed watching you faff around with that gas bottle exchange project…..and the running commentary had me in stitches. I know I risk hurting your feelings if the whole thing was meant to be serious but I couldn’t help thinking that you can be hilarious and informative at the same time. More of this please. Loved every minute.
Looking forward to a video on your comparison between the old and new setup ... when you get everything complete of course. 😁
Great video David
Quite a project! Hope your back improves quickly!
I've had that warning "back twang" myself. The first and only time Ignored it, I ended up unable to walk for several days. Very painful too. Always best to rest up and fight another day. Feel better, David.
Well done on your transition to houselife David.
IMO your low roof swb van is proving to be a good long term choice as an occasional camper and daily driver car, you don't need to spend tens of thousands.
David you could make even changing a light bulb look intrepid and highly watchable.
Keep the vids coming !
I hope you feel better soon. A nice warm towel or similar on the spot usually helps relax the muscle.
I just finished changing the oil, in the wife's Pilot. I was commiserating with you, as you lay upon the cold, damp gravel.
Hi David, first of all, sincerely hope your back got better quickly.
You obviously don't want to disclose your license plate(s), and I can very much understand, why that is a good idea. This happened to give me an ídea, though. For you can get custom made magnetic signs. Those could read "RUclips: Vandemonium" or even the URL of your channel or the likes and you could just place them over your license plate(s) whenever filming your van. Not only would that save you some fiddling while editing the video, those could also double as "advertisement" to your channel, when placed on the sides during fairs or conventions.
Excellent idea
@@Vandemonium Quick addendum: Just don't forget to take them off before driving again. 😄
So, you got your house? Congratulations. My, what a project you've taken on and now have hurt your back. Hope your better soon. Take care.
Hi David, On the little gas stove turn the "wonky" bit over and refit, it's the pan support!
I always enjoy watching David tinkering and every now and again a wee blue word or two comes out! LOL! Sorry to hear about your back David! Lots of rest, hot/cold packs and analgesics (if necessary) for you. Lovely news about your new house! Give us a tour soon (location, of course, unrevealed)...
Ah the house won't get a tour. It's too small for a start!
@@Vandemonium ...Too small??....says the man who lived on a Narrowboat! LOL! What a shame that we won't get to see your new digs! Ah well. Looking forward to your van travel adventures.
I find a TENS unit excellent for "twangs". I was very surprised at just how much I enjoyed this vlog....:) Thank you. Cheers.
I can't say I'm sad to see the gas system go, because plumbing with gas like that just scares me (I'd probably blow myself up with it), but I am curious to see how an electric cooker will work in the van. The diesel heater will be interesting, as well. Do take the time to let your back recover - best to stay out ahead of that rather than let it get out of hand.
I feel your pain with this project... Thank you for continuing these videos. At 26:20, I thought you were going to say "My Precious..." 🤣🤣
I'm so glad I read this comment before watching 🤣
Keep the gas locker, if you spill diesel, and you will, the stink will be contained. You might consider using a 5 litre fuel can as the tank, it worked well for me.
Car ramps would make life a lot easier, but well done so far so good.
Congratulations on the new house. Fair play doing that without any profanity lol, if I did it, it would be one long bleep. I really enjoy your videos David, thanks again
No profanity? I distinctly heard a "Blast!" as well as a "Bloody hell!” 😂
Well, this was a lot of tedious, dirty work.
Glad to see you got it done with only your back going out.
Looking forward to the next episode.
Get Well Soon
Yes, much better now, thanks
😺😸😹This was the best entertainment before bedtime! You are hilarious! I'll have to watch this again😃 Congratulations on the new house🎉 very happy for you!
I hope your back is feeling much better🤗
The good old “all 16ths” spanner. A flattened corrugated box is good to lay and kneel on. It also provides a place for fasteners and tools to hide.
It's like hearing Gollum tear the car apart😂
Precious filler cap 💍
😂 Was my association too
You said your house was a done deal. Hope it is everything you need and want, or a step in that direction. Thank you.
For backup gas cooker purposes I can recommend something like an MSR PocketRocket combined with a small gas canister and Titan "kettle" (actually a small pot). Alpkit and others do similar bits of kit.
@Vandemonium: Welcome to your new home, hope you will be happy there. Hope your back recovers very soon, but don't be in too much of a hurry to put it to the test ! Yes, get some cardboard to lay on, under the van. I am sure you have some (or soon will have) from your house deliveries. It makes for easier sliding under back and forth, too. With all the great electrical gadgets like induction and Jackery (or EcoTree) I see absolutely no reason to risk having gas in a confined place where you also sleep, so I think this is an excellent idea. Do watch some other vids about diesel heaters, alot of people have had a lot of trouble with them. I'm just wondering about those very new small things you plug in and which (so the adverts say) can heat up a room in minutes and are supposed to be VERY cheap to run - plug it into the Jackery and Bob's your Uncle ! (That's if they are to be believed). Sorry for the long waffle. Keep healthy
That gas cooker is great! But beware of the gas mix, it usually contains butane, a gas you do not want to breathe in. If used in the van, keep it well ventilated.
At least when you're doing something like this, you're talking to the camera. I would provide a similar commentary, but just for the benefit of myself 😂!
Great video showing reality including a bit of mild swearing and not edited to make it look easy. Hopefully the back was OK. Looking forward to the next instalment 😊
I know that feeling....go rest and let that back heal...no need to go the whole way to invalid! Take care 😀
I thought about you today when I saw a Toyota HIACE van. I'd love to have one of those.
Here's a couple of random thoughts for you to consider. Leave the hole in the bottom of the gas locker ,or make a slightly smaller one, just in case you get a diesel spill or leak. It will drain out of the van. Nothing worse than the smell of diesel on the bacon and eggs in the morning. I don't know the cost of diesel
not air heaters are these days,but maybe consider looking in a commercial vehicle scrap yard . The cab heaters in long distance articulated trucks would do the job. My neighbour when I had a mobile home had done just that. His mobile was like an oceans the kids could reach the thermostat. I went with a wood burner like your narrow boat. Morse character and I could boil the kettle on it. Looking forward to the next instalment, I hope the back recovers. A piece of heavy cardboard will insulate you from the cold ground and it's easy to slide about on. Hope you get that Jack Wolfskin jacket clean, it's taken a bit of a beating.
The poor jacket has been washed several times but the mucky marks seem to be baked in 😔
David I missed this adventure a few weeks ago. That looked like a bit of an undertaking. Sorry the back gave you fits. I had a similar thing when I was a work about 25 years ago. We had these stereo module display mobile stations and all the AC wires got pulled down through and opening to a ac multiple outlet box. I got down on on my hands and knees to do the unplugging and lo and behold I could not move. My back would not let me up. A customer had to help me up. For about two weeks I had to be very ginger how I turned my body or twist my back.
Ouch!!
By leaving the gas locker in place when you install the independent diesel tank, with the hole through the bottom, any spillage or leakage of diesel would drain out onto the ground instead of finding its way into the van.
Very entertaining David. I recently found that a 5lb hammer can remove any screw when allied with a cold chisel. What some call bolts are known as machine screws in the posh end of the trade.
"Machine screws," "posh end". 😊😋
I very much subscribed to the Dave school of DIY.
I watched this video with a bit of nervous concern, particularly as I was eating dinner. If you'd blown yourself to bits, might have put me off my food 😉. Also couldn't help but think it might have gone easier and without messing up your clothes if you'd had one of those car creeper thingies. Still, I was very glad to hear you were moving into your house so that has to be very satisfying, and congrats. Looking forward to more adventures in the van. Will you go to Europe or stick to Great Britain? Would love it if you did major tours of Cornwall, Wales and Scotland. Living vicariously through you and the Camper Vibe duo! Thanks, David, and very glad you're safe and sound!
I kept the boot carpet from a Mk3 Ford Escort for laying on when working under cars. It was very tough, big enough to be useful but small enough to be easily handled, didn't soak up water from wet ground, and was a remarkable improvement in comfort. The type of carpet you used inside, David, might very well be just as good.
Brute force is an acceptable methodology in certain situations. :)
Chewbacca noises are also traditionally part of the experience! XD Raising the back of the van does make it easier though, and significantly reduces head impacts too. Ramps or a good jack + axle stands are highly recommended if you do this more than once in a blue moon.
I like those little camping hobs, but you're not even allowed to bring them indoors into rented accommodation in Britain.
When I was a teenager, I could follow a falling nut like a hawk! :) It took practice to build that skill, but even if you don't manage to follow the nut all the way, it's still very useful.
Yep, I hear ya! I've had a few of those moments when you realise you have a lot more work to do than you thought. XD Only a few because I wasn't the one in charge of the repair very often, I was just helping. I had a much worse time with maintaining my own Linux systems. You know your bumper has uses, but many times, I wanted to install some simple program I was curious about, found it depended on something else slightly more complex which wasn't too bad, then found _that_ depended on some absolute monstrosity with a minimum of 5 other dependencies I had no use for or interest in whatsoever, and there was always a chance _those_ would be trouble too!
Yes! XD
"It came off, so it _will_ go back on again." I know the feeling! :D
Won't speed bumps catch that pipe? You could do with a bit of steel wire, or at least string.
About the twinges, I've been quite surprised to find I can often make the cramps in my legs go away by tensing my shoulders, almost like I'm stretching but with my arms down. I suppose it's to do with the very important nerves which I'm told the shoulders contain. I was going to suggest you try it, but, now I think about it, it would be best to be careful. I know how to tense my shoulders without making them cramp up, but it's taken some trial and error and the errors were not at all comfortable and sometimes worrying. Also my cramps can make me actually scream, so it's worth me trying to get rid of them as quickly as possible. If they were less bad, I think I might prefer to just try to relax the muscles.
Erf... I was going to keep this short; I was just going to post about the carpet, but this video just had too much nostalgia for me. I hope it's not too long.
All good points!
"A House. A house. My Narrowboat for a house." Well, you've been rescued now, haven't you. I must have missed something; like a notification. Three cheers for the the old Pandemonium..er, Van-de- etc.
You know that you can do all sorts of re-cycling things with a gas cylinder. All you need basically is a grinder and a welder. DIY Make your own Fuel from pastic using the gas cylinder; a Grill; a heater; a wood stove, a gardening tool. - yes, it seems endless, the prospects. Now that you have your own home, you'll be looking forward to putting that workshop next to the garage to full DIY construction use, not allowing the talents you have developed during the Narrowboat days to fade away.
Nice job David, If I was closer, I' grab that stuff of you for my Iload. Bein an intellegent bloke you'll get a bigger Alt, and a fairly large backup Battery an just in case a little gas stove justin case. Thanks David, have fun.
Very entertaining to watch and wonder if you knew what you were doing.....LOL😃
Those single burner portables you need to turn the black part the other way up to use the stove, its packed upside down to make a thinner package. It all stays pretty stable right way up
Hi David.
Easier said than done but please make more Vandemonium videos. The only channel that I subscribe to on RUclips that I get excited when I see that blue dot that indicates a new video.
Regards.
Cheers. I can only make them when I have time to do so but there is a new one on the way in the next day or so (the continuation of this LPG removal)
Perhaps look at fitting a higher output alternator to aid charging the bigger battery?
👍🏻👍🏻 for Brute Force no shame necessary good job
Aagh! Steel multigrips on brass gas fittings! My feelings are deeply hurt! 😜
I’ve just started to rewatch the build and got to the gas install yesterday lol and here you are removing it! I assume you didn’t like the smell or something. That or it’s slow to cook and heat up
Oh gosh, David, be careful with those lithium batteries. Hopefully you bought from a reputable manufacturer. Cautions aside, so good to see another Vandemonium post! Cheers.
Induction is the best 😁