That is a lot of work to put into an ending that barely anyone will see. Unique character models and an awesome location. This amount of effort is how Larian made such an awesome game.
I agree but i do think alot more people seen this ending than you think. Atleast with leazel because some people accidentally made it so leazel never started questioning vlaakith so she stayed loyal. Some people didnt even know you could. So they got this ending for leazel by default
@@ravenrose7677 Do the creche mission completely. Vlaakith will pull some fuckery on you and the team. when you're done, try to leave the mountain pass Voss will try to speak with you at camp. Encourage laezel to hear him out. he has some information about vlaakith that will put her on a path to turning on vlaakith.
Holy hells. Thank you for showing this, as I otherwise would never see it. There is no way I would ever go for this ending. It’s honestly kind of sad here, how Gith Tav looks around and notices all the undead Githyanki, but Lae’zel is too far gone to think about what might really be happening. I really hope we get DLC/ a future game to take down Vlaakith. They’ve built her up so well.
Sadly I think Larian won't make DLC for BG3. Especially post game. For instance this DLC idea of taking down Vlaakith wouldn't work so well if your Lae'zel is dead, or if she ( and a PC Gith ) ascended, since they're dead. A DLC like that would also invalidate endings where you chose to stay a mind flayer or took over as the absolute.
@@VDA19 But this entire argument is moot due to the epilogue update. If you take the complete evil ending, you don’t get an epilogue at all. So I argue; Larian does not have to cater DLC to all endings, all play throughs. However they have already proved to us that they can infact *keep track of and show results of all your decisions thus far.* In the epilogue, there are conversations and situations taking place based upon your entire choices throughout the campaign. Did you have Astarion ascend, or not? Did you release the spawn into the underdark? His entire persona changed based on what happened. Did you help Lae’zel free Orpheus? Or did she remain loyal to the Lich Queen until the bitter end? Entirely different epilogue result based on what happened. Hells, there are letters in a chest from various side characters from every act talking about what happened, thanking you if you helped them, etc. Shit there are NEWS ARTICLES ON THE WALL OF A BULLETIN BOARD TALKING ABOUT EVENTS THAT HAPPENED THAT WEREN’T DIRECTLY CREDITED TO YOU 🔥 Larian is completely capable of cooking, and the epilogue at the *very very least* was a clear indicator that they are keeping their options open.
the problem there is vlaakith with stats is a Cr of 23 (IE even end game DnD party's would struggle), and that is low balling it, she is strong, very strong, they would have to find an acceptable reason why she is nerfed, for context a nether brain is usually a cr of 14, tho the one in the game is likely a bit higher, and larian cant go to 13th level because thats when spells start to become impossible for a video game to recreate with current technology Edit an example of a spell like this is plane shift, where you go to a different plane of reality with 8 diffrent creatures, there are a few other 7th level spells that would be rediculous to do in a game today or just downright impossible, and it only gets worse from there
@@SM-ys8lw They already do this with spells like banishment, and blink, etc. But your point about certain spells not being possible is completely true and Larian already has commented on this as well. They would have to apply some spells with certain limitations. For example Wish spell only having limited options, etc. As for Vlaakith’s level, it depends on which Vlaakith you refer to, as there are many of them. I believe “our” Vlaakith in BG3 is level 21. And on that note, have you seen Ansur’s Level? And what about Raphael’s? My point is Larian has already implemented higher levels than 12 on enemies in the game, and some players have completely wiped the floor with them due to their party’s build and power.
That is still the original Vlaakith, she just consumes the soul of her "ascended" to fuel her power. In D&D (Pen and Paper Lore), no Githyanki could go over lvl 15(If i remember the level correctly) as to not challenge Vlaakith, so she sold the lie of "ascendance" so her followers would look forward to their death.
According to the Forgotten Realms wiki, it's Vlaakith CLVII, or the 157th. The Baldur's Gate 3 wiki meanwhile says it's actually the 158th. Although the game is a bit unclear and seems to hint that it's Vlaakith I. The Forgotten Realms wiki also says that CLVII is notable for becoming a Lich, but elsewhere says that the Vlaakith line was known for its undead rulers. It's all a bit unclear.
@Marco_Onyxheart I think it's purposefully murky, but I read it as still being Vlakith I and the "other ones" are to cover the truth, but at that point, it's more head cannon than accurate lore lol
"What is the value of a single mortal life? An evening's meal for the Lady Vlakith." - Withers Lae'zel is tough to deal with, but I'd never wish that she receive what she really wants.
What she really wants is the same as everybody else's : Love. Romance, friendship, family, kinship, what every character and every living being wants is love. That's why people seek power, why they seek vengeance, why they leave, and why they stay, for happiness, for freedom, for security, in the end, we seek the love of those we care about, and the love of things in which we beleive. Cazador, Ketheric, the Absolute, Orin, they are the same, they can only get it through the others, so they subdue them, try to take it from them, that fear is a form of respect and devotion, but they realize that something is missing, they don't have want they want, maybe they don't have enough, and they seek more... to fill the empty space that the lack of true Love left inside. In their twisted way of thinking, it's the world that needs to bend the knee to them, they seek godhood, kingship. Lae'zel can only get what she wants if she steps out of Vlaakith's grasp, like Astarion needs to get out of his search for power, that Gale needs to let his ambitions die, that Karlach has to accept to live, that Shadowheart has to accept that Shar will never fulfill her life, that Wyll sometimes have to think of himself first, that The Dark Urge isn't what they are compelled to do. What about you ? What do you do impulsively in search of Love ? What is it that compels you to it, and what is that you need to let go to truly be happy ? To ge the ending you truly deserve ? Larian have goddamn good writers, they make you ask yourself the good questions, don't they ?
@@rosevalety3408 what Lae’zel “believes” she wants might have been a better phrasing, if there is a difference between what we believe we want, and what we actually want. What Lae’zel believed she wanted was to honor her queen and ascend. She also believed that meant to win glory in the eyes of her people, while in reality it meant to have her soul consumed by Vlakith. I agree that the writers at Lan are wonderful. But there is a difference between what the woman you first meet wants, and what she comes to want at the end of the game. Lae’zel at the end of the game may want to serve her queen, or to free her people, or to remain in Faerun. All depending on your choices and her reaction to them.
@@twink2491It's not just because he's a mind flayer. Omeluum wouldn't be so well regarded otherwise. It's because he's a manipulative sonova that actually don't value you more than a tool.
@@patrickmartin4327They are literally nothing alike. For all his warring and tyranny, Gwyn only wanted to prologue his Age of Fire, because an Age of Dark would be the end of his people. Gwyn also gave purely of himself for centuries to keep the First Flame burning. Meanwhile, Vlaakith keeps her own people brainwashed and subservient while also using them as a food supply to prolong her own life. Between these two gods, Gwyn is the only one worthy of the word! \[T]/
@@silverblade357 wasn’t talking about Vlaakith was talking about lae zel since she the one giving herself to the undying queen fueling her fire basically from what the post above me said I do agree with what you are saying tho vlaakith is no way close to Gwynn I was just making the comparison of lae zel basically being the fuel for vlaakith that’s all because Gwynn and anyone who kindle the fire in the dark souls verse is just fuel in the end of it all my favorite ending to dark souls will always be going for the age of dark
@@silverblade357 Gwyn was a coward and a tyrant. He oppressed humanity and damned the world to be plagued by rot. All because he feared his work leading to the rise of Humanity and the Dark, as the cycle demands. He wasn't some hero like you make him out to be. You're consuming too much Gwyndolin propaganda
umm, my Lae'zel took the Orpheys route and still showed up at the party as a projection cuz their conquests made it impossible for her to attend in person
So based on the facial animation in this I'd like to think that Tav figured it out before the end. Maybe even tried to put up a fight after Lae'zel was dispatched.
I don’t think a blind zealot would’ve even made it this far, most likely would’ve sided with the Githyanki in freeing Orpheus the first time, they’d never trust a ghaik or help a ghaik kill other gith which honestly is probably the best option for the world if you disregard keeping yourself alive and put ending the elder brain before it becomes a netherbrain above yourself
I did a run where I started as a cleric of Vlaakith. Just couldn't really justify still believing in a god that had so obviously betrayed you; I was playing a zealot, but not a moron. So I respec'd my boy to cleric of Lathander / Oath of Vengeance and did a heel-face turn. Still played the rest of the run with that flair of githyanki ruthlessness and callousness, but toward more noble ends. Turned Karlach into a Mind Flayer and got the ending where you and Lae'zel join Orpheus together.
Not in any my play through, the mod is ridiculously over bloated either several of them is the same with vanilla, or even several of them are very similar each other, only difference is 3cm length or 3cm to the right side...with over 100 hairs it's ridiculous I don't even like any of them...the hair is too complex like a braid on top another braid with side braid down still have a length down into the angkle...also those adventurers almost equal to beggars, doesn't have luxury to visit salon lmao Uninstalled it after 3 times visiting the mirror, spent hours to search for decent one...or even good enough for hair mixing...nah nada
@@m1.01zahranormansyah4 Skyrim hair mods have a similar problem. No, I don't want to scroll through 900 hairstyles to find the one that doesn't suck ...
@@rustyjones7908 for skyrim tho personally for ks hairdos, I admit they have different style EACH for over 100 hairstyles, they had it all from complex, nothing too complex, messy they had it all, but for tav hairsalon...after scroll trough 100 hair mod, i have to deal with no icon back then...also Im almost flipped when i saw arabella's hair and short messy hair also included in the pack, when i can already have it ingame without mod....also there is a time when i thought my eyes tricking me i see 2 or 3 hairs look the exact same,...now that we can mix hairstyle, I can rest in peace with gale wizardly updo + long wavy bang from bangs bangs, or Isobels + duchess coronet/neverwinter scraft/eyrie peak
@@mushroomcactus6617 Not as hard as it sounds, if there are even 14 different A or B options that can be mixed and matched you get 2^14 unique ending combinations
@@jonhanson8925 I understand all that, thanks for explaining though. Just cool they implemented that into the game, to make it such a personalized experience
Better than the ending I got, where she tells me "it was fun" then just effs right off with orpheus and I'm sitting there twiddling my tentacles... The true bad ending, where you sacrifice everything to save baldurs gate and no one really gives a shit... "You're such a hero... K thanks, bye enjoy being gross forever now"
Somewhere out there is a Raider's of the Lost Ark level warehouse FILLED TO THE FROTHING BRIM with white boards containing the pitches, problems, and paths for Baldur's Gate 3 DLC. Sven has the key to this warehouse under his breastplate and every night it screams at him like the Egg of the King so that he and the God hand can troubleshoot.
@@Dochi78307 I imagine it does still happen offscreen, we just don't see it because our Avatar is dead. Though I do wonder how our companions react to Withers saying he couldn't reach Lae'zel and Tav. I know he says something if Lae'zel goes alone and you ask him later.
@@Pineapply_Queen in other outcomes where your protagonist is dead for the ending, you show up as a wisp and can observe the living members of the team have the party
@@pennclickVlakith is a lich, so to keep her Immortality she literally consumes you soul. So you likely don’t have the party because you are just gone, gone.
i saw someone's tav ask withers bout lae'zel and its as u suspect. the only issue i have is he says she was proud to be consumed by the queen but we all know better like she'd hate that
In other playthroughs, if you don't question Vlaakith, Laezel remains true believer. In the Wither`s party, he tells you she is beyondd his reach. Not only her body, but her soul is gone, too. And you know when Jergal tells you, you better trust he means it.
I always hated that old undead toad. How unfortunate that the dead 3 doesnt oppose her. I would love it if Bhaal gave my Dark Urge a mission to destroy her.
Lore wise, Bhaal wouldn't care. He would just be upset that he didn't get the kill. But Gods can't meddle in affairs like this, they'll get in trouble with Ao who is there to make sure the Gods stay in line.
This was my ending for her on my first playthrough those she looked around as I was a Dwarf and thud not with her. I was shocked but not surprised. It is actually a very easy ending to get. If you attack a certain person before they have their say and defeat them. This is the only ending she will know. It was weird for me to see her nonhostile reactions to the prince in all of the videos I have seen. Now of course I am on a second playthrough and I did listen to the visitor so her ending will be, maybe, somewhat more in line with the masses. People say this is the bad ending. Really that first time I experienced it it came off to me like the proper generic ending. Like this is the way countless thousands of her people have lived and died. This is the norm for them. Very, bittersweet.
Vlaakith smiled, so it's a good ending! Seriously, here the Githyanki PC's life ends, fulfilling their greatest desire right beside their best friend: It IS a good ending! From the twisted Githyanki perspective.
They're not fulfilling their greatest desire because they don't know they're about to die, that’s the whole point. If they know that all those called to Vlaakith’s side were killed and had their souls eaten then yes this would be “good” for them it’s the ultimate act of worship but they don’t know that, they think they’re about the be honoured and live forever. Lae’zel thinks she’s about to be named Vlaakith’s chosen and go on to fight against the ghaik in her name, not that she’s about to have her soul eaten and be turned into an undead husk, this isn’t what she wanted. So no this isn’t a good ending from the Githyanki perspective because they’ve been lied to about what this is, this isn’t what they thought was going to happen.
I love how they show and don’t tell shit🤣🤣even if you got this ending you don’t know it’s bad until you’ve played again and learned the truth about her
vlaakith is considered evil in alignment, but she and the githyanki are an extremely important in the Great Wheel. Powerful enough to make a deal with Tiamat when vlaakith was much younger and weaker.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure this isn't the same Vlaakith. Every gith queen has had the same name since Gith was succeeded by Vlaakith the first, and it was the first Vlaakith that made a deal with Tiamat, while the Lich Vlaakith is the latest in a line of something like 150 or so Vlaakiths. Although she has ruled far longer than the previous ones due to being a lich.
@@guiha We don`t really know who made a deal with Tiamat, Tiamats dragon consort said that mother Gith made the deal and that Vlaakith is to take the throne but it could easily be a scheme by the first Vlaakith as she was the one who proposed to Gith to go and make a deal with Tiamat in the first place.
@@jogzyg2036indeed, not the same Vlaakith. Vlaakith was Gith's right hand woman. Gith descended to the Nine Hells as part of a bargain to obtain the services of Red Dragons.
@@guihayou can't usurp a throne that is vacant. Gith herself was in hell, quite literally, and Vlaakith I was the closest thing the Gith had to a leader.
When you deal with someone as evil and as powerful as Vlaakith, you may (foolishly) believe that at the end, you'll be on the backrow of the chess board with the knights and the rooks, and the Queen herself. Wrong. You are a pawn. And you always were.
This is interesting... You have a whole race sold a religious lie that once you get strong almost to challange Vlakith herself, you gain 'honor' to ascend so there would be no competition to her rule.
Idk why people are so fond of the lying squid boy. Freeing Orpheus is both Lae'zel's only good ending and the only "good aligned" choice to make in the prism.
What is Vlakkith specifically? Like I know she's "The undying Lich Queen" and yada yada, but on like Act 2 there's a mind that goes to a githzerai. So is Vlaakith basically the same kind of gith as that one or just a really powerful githyanki ascended to godhood?
So, vlakkith isn't a god. She is an extremely powerful Lich attempting to get her people to worship her so she can become one. She feeds off the souls of her strongest fighters
Githyanki and Githzerai are just two different factions of gith. If I remember correct, they splintered off either around the time Orpheus rebelled or when Vlakkith took the throne. Lae'zel explains a bit of who they are if she sides with Orpheus and you have her in the epilogue party.
@@AeridisArt they splintered centuries ago, after gith stopped the grand design. They are far different in views, and have evolved differently as they live in limbo
The People who would later be known as Githyanki (followers of Gith) and Githzerai (those who spurn Gith) were slaves to the Mindflayers, but with the help of their leader, a woman named Gith, they rebelled. After the successful rebellion, Gith wanted to continue the war against all mind flayers and build her own empire. Zerthimon, one of her Subjects, disagreed and he left, together with others who didnt want to replace the Mindflayers as new rulers. The Githzerai now dwell in the Plane of Limbo, but they still are down to kill mind flayers when the opportunity presents itself.
All these comments saying that this ending is heartbreaking or it's so sad or w/e... no it's not. This is a deserved ending. You are given so so SO many hints throughout the game that Vlaakith is tyrannical, evil, piece of crap. And if you still choose to ignore ALL of that and blindly and zealously dedicate yourself to her...well, you deserve what's coming to you.
I agree 100% When you deal with someone as evil and as powerful as Vlaakith, you may (foolishly) believe that at the end, you'll be on the backrow of the chess board with the knights and the rooks, and the Queen herself. Wrong. You are a pawn. And you always were.
I’m not sure to understand what’s at stake here. Does that mean that Vlakiith only « power » consists of rising her private elite army of undead with every ascended Goths, and Lae zel being so tunnel vision by her love for her queen, accepts that fate even though she notices it ?
Vlaakith is something like an uber-lich. She empowers herself by consuming her most powerful Gith devotees, leaving soulless undead husks behind. Vlaakith herself possesses a great deal of power, such as being able to cast Wish to erase an annoying adventurer from existence (she will literally do this to you if you annoy her in the creche). It's not clear what Lae'zel thinks is happening in this scene. Whether she believes Vlaakith will honor her and raise her to a higher status than the Gith that get consumed, or whether she is (as Withers says) proud to BE consumed, we don't really know.
I’ve seen Lae’zel break up w non-Gith Tavs when she is pro Vlaakith so I’m wondering how it is when you are Gith and Lae’zel is pro Vlaakith. Do the two of you stay together then?
So does this scene skip the epilogue then? I know Laezel wont appear in the epilogue if she goes to Vlakith, but will this skip the epilogue entirely or do you just turn up as a dead spirit orb?
That is a lot of work to put into an ending that barely anyone will see.
Unique character models and an awesome location.
This amount of effort is how Larian made such an awesome game.
Agreed. The attention to detail is incredible.
That said, I'd never trust Vlaakith
I agree but i do think alot more people seen this ending than you think. Atleast with leazel because some people accidentally made it so leazel never started questioning vlaakith so she stayed loyal. Some people didnt even know you could. So they got this ending for leazel by default
dear god tell me how to avoid this then@@LadyAbstract
Its almost like games like starfield could learn from bg3 on attention to detail and curated player experiences
@@ravenrose7677 Do the creche mission completely. Vlaakith will pull some fuckery on you and the team. when you're done, try to leave the mountain pass Voss will try to speak with you at camp. Encourage laezel to hear him out. he has some information about vlaakith that will put her on a path to turning on vlaakith.
Holy hells. Thank you for showing this, as I otherwise would never see it. There is no way I would ever go for this ending. It’s honestly kind of sad here, how Gith Tav looks around and notices all the undead Githyanki, but Lae’zel is too far gone to think about what might really be happening. I really hope we get DLC/ a future game to take down Vlaakith. They’ve built her up so well.
Sadly I think Larian won't make DLC for BG3. Especially post game. For instance this DLC idea of taking down Vlaakith wouldn't work so well if your Lae'zel is dead, or if she ( and a PC Gith ) ascended, since they're dead. A DLC like that would also invalidate endings where you chose to stay a mind flayer or took over as the absolute.
@@VDA19 But this entire argument is moot due to the epilogue update. If you take the complete evil ending, you don’t get an epilogue at all. So I argue; Larian does not have to cater DLC to all endings, all play throughs.
However they have already proved to us that they can infact *keep track of and show results of all your decisions thus far.* In the epilogue, there are conversations and situations taking place based upon your entire choices throughout the campaign. Did you have Astarion ascend, or not? Did you release the spawn into the underdark? His entire persona changed based on what happened. Did you help Lae’zel free Orpheus? Or did she remain loyal to the Lich Queen until the bitter end? Entirely different epilogue result based on what happened. Hells, there are letters in a chest from various side characters from every act talking about what happened, thanking you if you helped them, etc. Shit there are NEWS ARTICLES ON THE WALL OF A BULLETIN BOARD TALKING ABOUT EVENTS THAT HAPPENED THAT WEREN’T DIRECTLY CREDITED TO YOU 🔥
Larian is completely capable of cooking, and the epilogue at the *very very least* was a clear indicator that they are keeping their options open.
the problem there is vlaakith with stats is a Cr of 23 (IE even end game DnD party's would struggle), and that is low balling it, she is strong, very strong, they would have to find an acceptable reason why she is nerfed, for context a nether brain is usually a cr of 14, tho the one in the game is likely a bit higher, and larian cant go to 13th level because thats when spells start to become impossible for a video game to recreate with current technology
Edit an example of a spell like this is plane shift, where you go to a different plane of reality with 8 diffrent creatures, there are a few other 7th level spells that would be rediculous to do in a game today or just downright impossible, and it only gets worse from there
@@SM-ys8lw They already do this with spells like banishment, and blink, etc. But your point about certain spells not being possible is completely true and Larian already has commented on this as well. They would have to apply some spells with certain limitations. For example Wish spell only having limited options, etc.
As for Vlaakith’s level, it depends on which Vlaakith you refer to, as there are many of them. I believe “our” Vlaakith in BG3 is level 21. And on that note, have you seen Ansur’s Level? And what about Raphael’s? My point is Larian has already implemented higher levels than 12 on enemies in the game, and some players have completely wiped the floor with them due to their party’s build and power.
@absoluteandrew398 true, it is very generous with magic items, so it could work, but it would be difficult
That is still the original Vlaakith, she just consumes the soul of her "ascended" to fuel her power. In D&D (Pen and Paper Lore), no Githyanki could go over lvl 15(If i remember the level correctly) as to not challenge Vlaakith, so she sold the lie of "ascendance" so her followers would look forward to their death.
I think it’s like Level 12 is when Vlakith takes notice (which is interestingly the Max level of BG3)
According to the Forgotten Realms wiki, it's Vlaakith CLVII, or the 157th. The Baldur's Gate 3 wiki meanwhile says it's actually the 158th. Although the game is a bit unclear and seems to hint that it's Vlaakith I. The Forgotten Realms wiki also says that CLVII is notable for becoming a Lich, but elsewhere says that the Vlaakith line was known for its undead rulers. It's all a bit unclear.
@Marco_Onyxheart I think it's purposefully murky, but I read it as still being Vlakith I and the "other ones" are to cover the truth, but at that point, it's more head cannon than accurate lore lol
@@Marco_Onyxheart I believe Lae'zel mentions that it isn't Vlaakith I in a cut scene between acts II and III
But isn't Ascension supposed to make new Kith'raki? If everyone dies, how can we find normal ones in the game?
"What is the value of a single mortal life? An evening's meal for the Lady Vlakith." - Withers
Lae'zel is tough to deal with, but I'd never wish that she receive what she really wants.
What she really wants is the same as everybody else's : Love. Romance, friendship, family, kinship, what every character and every living being wants is love. That's why people seek power, why they seek vengeance, why they leave, and why they stay, for happiness, for freedom, for security, in the end, we seek the love of those we care about, and the love of things in which we beleive. Cazador, Ketheric, the Absolute, Orin, they are the same, they can only get it through the others, so they subdue them, try to take it from them, that fear is a form of respect and devotion, but they realize that something is missing, they don't have want they want, maybe they don't have enough, and they seek more... to fill the empty space that the lack of true Love left inside. In their twisted way of thinking, it's the world that needs to bend the knee to them, they seek godhood, kingship. Lae'zel can only get what she wants if she steps out of Vlaakith's grasp, like Astarion needs to get out of his search for power, that Gale needs to let his ambitions die, that Karlach has to accept to live, that Shadowheart has to accept that Shar will never fulfill her life, that Wyll sometimes have to think of himself first, that The Dark Urge isn't what they are compelled to do.
What about you ? What do you do impulsively in search of Love ? What is it that compels you to it, and what is that you need to let go to truly be happy ? To ge the ending you truly deserve ?
Larian have goddamn good writers, they make you ask yourself the good questions, don't they ?
@@rosevalety3408 what Lae’zel “believes” she wants might have been a better phrasing, if there is a difference between what we believe we want, and what we actually want. What Lae’zel believed she wanted was to honor her queen and ascend. She also believed that meant to win glory in the eyes of her people, while in reality it meant to have her soul consumed by Vlakith.
I agree that the writers at Lan are wonderful. But there is a difference between what the woman you first meet wants, and what she comes to want at the end of the game. Lae’zel at the end of the game may want to serve her queen, or to free her people, or to remain in Faerun. All depending on your choices and her reaction to them.
@@twink2491It's not just because he's a mind flayer. Omeluum wouldn't be so well regarded otherwise. It's because he's a manipulative sonova that actually don't value you more than a tool.
@@rosevalety3408 😂
@@twink2491nah, he's just a shifty bastard. He's manipulative and dishonest.
Perhaps the worst ending for Tav and Lae’zel. You both honored your queen’s call and was repaid with becoming fuel for the queen’s dying fire.
using your life to fuel a dying flame you say...?
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@@chaoticnachos380she’s the female variant of Gwyn
@@patrickmartin4327They are literally nothing alike. For all his warring and tyranny, Gwyn only wanted to prologue his Age of Fire, because an Age of Dark would be the end of his people. Gwyn also gave purely of himself for centuries to keep the First Flame burning. Meanwhile, Vlaakith keeps her own people brainwashed and subservient while also using them as a food supply to prolong her own life. Between these two gods, Gwyn is the only one worthy of the word! \[T]/
@@silverblade357 wasn’t talking about Vlaakith was talking about lae zel since she the one giving herself to the undying queen fueling her fire basically from what the post above me said I do agree with what you are saying tho vlaakith is no way close to Gwynn I was just making the comparison of lae zel basically being the fuel for vlaakith that’s all because Gwynn and anyone who kindle the fire in the dark souls verse is just fuel in the end of it all my favorite ending to dark souls will always be going for the age of dark
@@silverblade357 Gwyn was a coward and a tyrant. He oppressed humanity and damned the world to be plagued by rot. All because he feared his work leading to the rise of Humanity and the Dark, as the cycle demands. He wasn't some hero like you make him out to be. You're consuming too much Gwyndolin propaganda
They not just die, their souls get consumed by Vlaakith and that's why they cannot attend Wither's party afterwards.
But what about Tav? Did she appear at the party or not? I guess, we never know, unless someone tests it out and tell us.
umm, my Lae'zel took the Orpheys route and still showed up at the party as a projection cuz their conquests made it impossible for her to attend in person
@@Lorenzo-pj2lo Because that’s the Orpheus route, not a situation where the soul is devoured.
I usually don't like modded hairstyles on companions, but this one suited Lae'zel very well.
I have to admit that the hairstyle actually looks good on her.
Yes it is lovely.
it works because its a standard female military hairstyle used around the world
Agree, this hair style make her so beautiful.
Never trust anyone with “Lich” in their name
Not even Roy Lichtenstein??
I always forget her name, so she is “Lich bitch” to me 🤷♀️
@@Micaerys ESPECIALLY not Roy Lichtenstein.
adventure time taught me that
Thanks
So based on the facial animation in this I'd like to think that Tav figured it out before the end. Maybe even tried to put up a fight after Lae'zel was dispatched.
As soon as Vlak smirked and Tav saw the undead, initiative dice should have been rolling
Jap xD @@Mr_Smith618
I feel this ending is also fitted for a Gith Tav who is a blind zealot Cleric of Vlaakith
that's precisely what I'm going to do someday
Very true.
I don’t think a blind zealot would’ve even made it this far, most likely would’ve sided with the Githyanki in freeing Orpheus the first time, they’d never trust a ghaik or help a ghaik kill other gith which honestly is probably the best option for the world if you disregard keeping yourself alive and put ending the elder brain before it becomes a netherbrain above yourself
I did a run where I started as a cleric of Vlaakith. Just couldn't really justify still believing in a god that had so obviously betrayed you; I was playing a zealot, but not a moron. So I respec'd my boy to cleric of Lathander / Oath of Vengeance and did a heel-face turn. Still played the rest of the run with that flair of githyanki ruthlessness and callousness, but toward more noble ends. Turned Karlach into a Mind Flayer and got the ending where you and Lae'zel join Orpheus together.
It was my first ever run wanted to do something not many wouldve done
Tavs hair salon should just be incorporated into the game at this point.
True, the game needs more haircuts.
I'll have to look that up
Not in any my play through, the mod is ridiculously over bloated either several of them is the same with vanilla, or even several of them are very similar each other, only difference is 3cm length or 3cm to the right side...with over 100 hairs it's ridiculous I don't even like any of them...the hair is too complex like a braid on top another braid with side braid down still have a length down into the angkle...also those adventurers almost equal to beggars, doesn't have luxury to visit salon lmao
Uninstalled it after 3 times visiting the mirror, spent hours to search for decent one...or even good enough for hair mixing...nah nada
@@m1.01zahranormansyah4 Skyrim hair mods have a similar problem. No, I don't want to scroll through 900 hairstyles to find the one that doesn't suck ...
@@rustyjones7908 for skyrim tho personally for ks hairdos, I admit they have different style EACH for over 100 hairstyles, they had it all from complex, nothing too complex, messy they had it all, but for tav hairsalon...after scroll trough 100 hair mod, i have to deal with no icon back then...also Im almost flipped when i saw arabella's hair and short messy hair also included in the pack, when i can already have it ingame without mod....also there is a time when i thought my eyes tricking me i see 2 or 3 hairs look the exact same,...now that we can mix hairstyle, I can rest in peace with gale wizardly updo + long wavy bang from bangs bangs, or Isobels + duchess coronet/neverwinter scraft/eyrie peak
The slow, unsettled realization on Tav's face is so haunting.
Ending aside Lae'zel with a hair bun looks soooo preeetttyyy 😍💖💖💖
Laezel: yay! we are gonna become zombies at the service of our queen!
Tav: now i get it.. and i kinda regret that now.
I absolutely hate how she sits on her throne like a tiny princess lmao
Ikr? Was Vlaakith one half-giant or something? Throne's practically a chaise lounge.
Well Vlaakith is about to have a satisfying snack, RIP Tav and Lae'zel.
How many fuckin endings this game got jesus, I'm going to be playing this shit until I'm 69..
Hold on to that optimism!
According to Larian, there's approximately 17,000 possible endings.
@@sokar_rostau How is that possible?! 😭
Nice
@@mushroomcactus6617 Not as hard as it sounds, if there are even 14 different A or B options that can be mixed and matched you get 2^14 unique ending combinations
@@jonhanson8925 I understand all that, thanks for explaining though. Just cool they implemented that into the game, to make it such a personalized experience
In the end, they were nothing more then two cogs in Vlaakith's machine...
Vlaakith be like "OM NOM NOM, OM NOM"
the small smile on tav's face when they see the dragons
Damn I didn't know this was an option for an ending!
Hahaha it’s not one many people would take😅
Me neither! This game is amazing
Better than the ending I got, where she tells me "it was fun" then just effs right off with orpheus and I'm sitting there twiddling my tentacles... The true bad ending, where you sacrifice everything to save baldurs gate and no one really gives a shit...
"You're such a hero... K thanks, bye enjoy being gross forever now"
I'd you have tentacles tav died.
I'd you have tentacles tav died.
I'd you have tentacles tav died.
I'd you have tentacles tav died.
I'd you have tentacles tav died.
Unrelated but this is probably the cutest Tav I've ever seen
Vlaakith got the combo platter
That hairstyle for Lae’zel is super pretty
The way Vlaakith was sitting when they first arrived, she looked like she was screwing around on a computer.
That's... Heartbreaking.
Your Gith Tav is absolutely stunning
Laezel hair looks amazing
Somewhere out there is a Raider's of the Lost Ark level warehouse FILLED TO THE FROTHING BRIM with white boards containing the pitches, problems, and paths for Baldur's Gate 3 DLC. Sven has the key to this warehouse under his breastplate and every night it screams at him like the Egg of the King so that he and the God hand can troubleshoot.
Indiana Jones and the Adventurers of the Lost DLC
What will happen at the Wither's party if both Tav and Lae'zel are at Vlaakith Bad Ending?
No party😢
@@Dochi78307 I imagine it does still happen offscreen, we just don't see it because our Avatar is dead.
Though I do wonder how our companions react to Withers saying he couldn't reach Lae'zel and Tav. I know he says something if Lae'zel goes alone and you ask him later.
@@Pineapply_Queen in other outcomes where your protagonist is dead for the ending, you show up as a wisp and can observe the living members of the team have the party
@@pennclickVlakith is a lich, so to keep her Immortality she literally consumes you soul. So you likely don’t have the party because you are just gone, gone.
@@pennclicksadly their souls would be with vlaakith and not withers right?
This scene feels like disturbing Fallout 1 bad ending.
Even the music sounds almost same at the end.
Мне две в сырном, пожалуйста.
© Влаакит.
I'd like two in cheese, please.
© Vlaakit.
I guess you can't attend Withers' party with that ending anymore, can you? 😂
He cant bring you, if your soul is gone, i assume
i saw someone's tav ask withers bout lae'zel and its as u suspect. the only issue i have is he says she was proud to be consumed by the queen but we all know better like she'd hate that
In other playthroughs, if you don't question Vlaakith, Laezel remains true believer. In the Wither`s party, he tells you she is beyondd his reach. Not only her body, but her soul is gone, too.
And you know when Jergal tells you, you better trust he means it.
I always hated that old undead toad. How unfortunate that the dead 3 doesnt oppose her. I would love it if Bhaal gave my Dark Urge a mission to destroy her.
Lore wise, Bhaal wouldn't care. He would just be upset that he didn't get the kill.
But Gods can't meddle in affairs like this, they'll get in trouble with Ao who is there to make sure the Gods stay in line.
the deal and what happened when she's with gith to see tiamat still have alot of mysteries...
(sadlly we dont have Githzerai in game to play)
This was my ending for her on my first playthrough those she looked around as I was a Dwarf and thud not with her. I was shocked but not surprised. It is actually a very easy ending to get. If you attack a certain person before they have their say and defeat them. This is the only ending she will know. It was weird for me to see her nonhostile reactions to the prince in all of the videos I have seen.
Now of course I am on a second playthrough and I did listen to the visitor so her ending will be, maybe, somewhat more in line with the masses.
People say this is the bad ending. Really that first time I experienced it it came off to me like the proper generic ending. Like this is the way countless thousands of her people have lived and died. This is the norm for them. Very, bittersweet.
Vlaakith smiled, so it's a good ending!
Seriously, here the Githyanki PC's life ends, fulfilling their greatest desire right beside their best friend: It IS a good ending! From the twisted Githyanki perspective.
They're not fulfilling their greatest desire because they don't know they're about to die, that’s the whole point. If they know that all those called to Vlaakith’s side were killed and had their souls eaten then yes this would be “good” for them it’s the ultimate act of worship but they don’t know that, they think they’re about the be honoured and live forever.
Lae’zel thinks she’s about to be named Vlaakith’s chosen and go on to fight against the ghaik in her name, not that she’s about to have her soul eaten and be turned into an undead husk, this isn’t what she wanted. So no this isn’t a good ending from the Githyanki perspective because they’ve been lied to about what this is, this isn’t what they thought was going to happen.
Congrats on making a gith that wasn’t horribly ugly
I love how they show and don’t tell shit🤣🤣even if you got this ending you don’t know it’s bad until you’ve played again and learned the truth about her
Only a fool couldn't see through vlaakith lies
Laz'zel is also gone for good after this. Her soul gets consumed by the lich queen and Withers couldn't even bring her back if he wanted too.
vlaakith is considered evil in alignment, but she and the githyanki are an extremely important in the Great Wheel. Powerful enough to make a deal with Tiamat when vlaakith was much younger and weaker.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure this isn't the same Vlaakith. Every gith queen has had the same name since Gith was succeeded by Vlaakith the first, and it was the first Vlaakith that made a deal with Tiamat, while the Lich Vlaakith is the latest in a line of something like 150 or so Vlaakiths. Although she has ruled far longer than the previous ones due to being a lich.
Actually it is not the same Vlaakith and it was Gith who made the deal with Tiamat, before Vlaakith usurped the throne.
@@guiha We don`t really know who made a deal with Tiamat, Tiamats dragon consort said that mother Gith made the deal and that Vlaakith is to take the throne but it could easily be a scheme by the first Vlaakith as she was the one who proposed to Gith to go and make a deal with Tiamat in the first place.
@@jogzyg2036indeed, not the same Vlaakith. Vlaakith was Gith's right hand woman. Gith descended to the Nine Hells as part of a bargain to obtain the services of Red Dragons.
@@guihayou can't usurp a throne that is vacant. Gith herself was in hell, quite literally, and Vlaakith I was the closest thing the Gith had to a leader.
bro just wtf I would never know this
Vlaakith has biggest nose of all gith.
1000 years. And nose is a only part of humanoid that is growing for all life:D
Wow. Did not know you can go to Vlaakith with Lae and be NomNom😮 just did as it Gith with Orpheus free
Not with a whimper, but with thunderous applause
The Tav realized the problem here
All im saying is, my level 20 Tav would solo Vlaakith, and with Lae'zel it wouldn't even be a challenge
Orpheus? Nah I'm the prince of the comet now
well, I can imagine this is what withers means when he says he can’t find Lae’zel if you send her down this end alone
Wow Lae'zel be looking fine in this scene she got her hair did. She as fresh as a peach in this scene.
Cool video. Even cooler hair on Lae'zel, is that a mod?
Just like the mind flayer 😢 I am gonna save Lae'zel 🙌
When you deal with someone as evil and as powerful as Vlaakith, you may (foolishly) believe that at the end, you'll be on the backrow of the chess board with the knights and the rooks, and the Queen herself.
Wrong.
You are a pawn.
And you always were.
it truly baffles me how someone could trust Vlaakith
Creepy ending AF
holy shit that thumbnail it look so good
Bae’zel even better with her hair like that.
U have such a pretty gith tav ❤
Okay but gorgeous hair!
Vlaakith = Emperor of Mankind from Lidl
Thanks. Now i hate Vlaakith even more😂
I just wish we could fight her🔥
Your Gith Tav looks like she's played by Rosamund Pike ❤
This game is a masterpiece
This is interesting... You have a whole race sold a religious lie that once you get strong almost to challange Vlakith herself, you gain 'honor' to ascend so there would be no competition to her rule.
How creepy ! Holy cow...
People should know better than to show up at a place called Tuna-Wrath.
Idk why people are so fond of the lying squid boy. Freeing Orpheus is both Lae'zel's only good ending and the only "good aligned" choice to make in the prism.
Low key Vlaakith's feet though.
Now I have to look
Are these with mods? Cos I’m digging laezel hair style a bit here
Double Dragon!
OMG WHAT NOOOOOO THAT'S SO SAD
I see you also have the problem with shaking characters.
What is Vlakkith specifically? Like I know she's "The undying Lich Queen" and yada yada, but on like Act 2 there's a mind that goes to a githzerai. So is Vlaakith basically the same kind of gith as that one or just a really powerful githyanki ascended to godhood?
So, vlakkith isn't a god. She is an extremely powerful Lich attempting to get her people to worship her so she can become one. She feeds off the souls of her strongest fighters
Githyanki and Githzerai are just two different factions of gith. If I remember correct, they splintered off either around the time Orpheus rebelled or when Vlakkith took the throne. Lae'zel explains a bit of who they are if she sides with Orpheus and you have her in the epilogue party.
@@AeridisArt they splintered centuries ago, after gith stopped the grand design. They are far different in views, and have evolved differently as they live in limbo
The People who would later be known as Githyanki (followers of Gith) and Githzerai (those who spurn Gith) were slaves to the Mindflayers, but with the help of their leader, a woman named Gith, they rebelled. After the successful rebellion, Gith wanted to continue the war against all mind flayers and build her own empire. Zerthimon, one of her Subjects, disagreed and he left, together with others who didnt want to replace the Mindflayers as new rulers. The Githzerai now dwell in the Plane of Limbo, but they still are down to kill mind flayers when the opportunity presents itself.
Nom nom
Vlaakith feet
omg what is that armor mod on your tav, it's so pretty
BOGO for Vlaakith
she doesn't have gith spots.
Two gith gonks lmaoo
Did.... she say "Tuna Wrath" ?!?
All these comments saying that this ending is heartbreaking or it's so sad or w/e... no it's not. This is a deserved ending. You are given so so SO many hints throughout the game that Vlaakith is tyrannical, evil, piece of crap. And if you still choose to ignore ALL of that and blindly and zealously dedicate yourself to her...well, you deserve what's coming to you.
I agree 100%
When you deal with someone as evil and as powerful as Vlaakith, you may (foolishly) believe that at the end, you'll be on the backrow of the chess board with the knights and the rooks, and the Queen herself.
Wrong.
You are a pawn.
And you always were.
Lol i wish i got to see what happened after the door closed
Man who would want this ending? Vlaakith is such a jerk
I’m not sure to understand what’s at stake here. Does that mean that Vlakiith only « power » consists of rising her private elite army of undead with every ascended Goths, and Lae zel being so tunnel vision by her love for her queen, accepts that fate even though she notices it ?
Vlaakith is something like an uber-lich. She empowers herself by consuming her most powerful Gith devotees, leaving soulless undead husks behind. Vlaakith herself possesses a great deal of power, such as being able to cast Wish to erase an annoying adventurer from existence (she will literally do this to you if you annoy her in the creche). It's not clear what Lae'zel thinks is happening in this scene. Whether she believes Vlaakith will honor her and raise her to a higher status than the Gith that get consumed, or whether she is (as Withers says) proud to BE consumed, we don't really know.
@@arrakeenmerchant Lae'zel thinks she will ascend to be Vlaakith's Chosen, the narrator tells us this.
What in the world happened to Laezels hair in this one?!
Yo what mod are your armors from? Mainly on Shart.
0:04 name song?
What mod did you use for Lae'zel's hair?
Where’d you get your beautiful helmet? I don’t know if it that’s Jaheira wearing or who
What will be with your character on the Wither party in case this ending?
I am interested to know this too. I guess no party because PC is dead?
I’ve seen Lae’zel break up w non-Gith Tavs when she is pro Vlaakith so I’m wondering how it is when you are Gith and Lae’zel is pro Vlaakith. Do the two of you stay together then?
They should have let you fight her.
yeah, let lvl 12 tav go full "fly vs windshield" mod vs lvl12 laezel, a +-hundred gith zombies and lvl 18+ vlaakith, lol)
you would die instantly lmfao
So does this scene skip the epilogue then? I know Laezel wont appear in the epilogue if she goes to Vlakith, but will this skip the epilogue entirely or do you just turn up as a dead spirit orb?
Hey, does our Tav have to be a Githyanki to get this ending?
Nah you just have to fight and kill Voss before he can say anything. She will spend the game as the usual zealot fighting for her queen.
Not gonna lie . Vlaakith can get it
How did you get double captions?
Why giths are yassified
...Is there still an epilogue scene after this?
no, you are both assimilated and withers can't summon your souls back to the party
Say what you want but vlaakith kept her word
not really
@@bleaklu Actually, yeah really. She promised Lae'zel ascension. Except ascension is getting your soul nommed on by Vlaakith.
@@Pixx2266 Yep...
But isn't that what githyanki desire? @@Pixx2266
@@kraizmerentertainment2121 they want to ascend. they don't know ascension means death