I Tried A GROUP B Car In The NEW WRC Game. It's INSANE!
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I think what they ultimately got right with this game is the fun factor. We can argue all day which game is more realistic, but for me what really matters is that this is the most fun I've had with a rally game since Dirt 2 back on the PS3. The sounds, cars, stages and different modes really make it a cut above the rest. Sim racers can always hop onto RBR, that game isn't going anywhere, but for people like me who enjoy some authentic rally racing that also feels great on a pad, there just hasn't really been anything quite like it.
Seen your review, looks good
This is probably the reason why i'll buy it, i play like a moron with a wheel but i'll do it regardless to goof about, so it's important to also be able to play with a controller
There ain’t a single person I know that would think RBR is cool, but this is cool
So what youre saying is "skill issue" if youre casual and trash buy this if youre good just play rbr.
@@lordjaraxxus663 you do realize that simulator or arcade does not set difficulty right?
You could replace the boost guage with a light. It was either 0 or pegged! 😂
Even better it was pegged at over 3 bars
Boost lag in an 80s single turbo, what? 👀🤨
It’s like a Citröen’s brakes, they’re either on, or off, just like the turbo! 😂😂
@@YoShImUrA53it also has minor boost lag in 2007 WRC cars.
@@DoktrWhiteCustomswell also same goes to Mitsubishi Starion 4WD WRC.
The shape and initial design of the 205 is just gorgeous even at factory default.
I owned a 205 1.9 GTI, in my time I only rolled it 3 times in 4 years, which I thought was reasonable for a 20 year old.😅
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@@00Clive00 3 times!? 🤣
@@CHINZIG_UK yeah, I lived on a farm and use to race it around a field. The hedges saved it from getting completely destroyed, still only good for scrap metal after I had it!
Cheap gti days are long gone now sadly
Rally contents from Jimmer always a treat! Still the most underappreciated form of motorsports out there!
It wouldn't be so if the WRC actually made it more accessible to watch the damn sport without having to subscribe to stuff
@@ElShogoso it probably still would be, because time trials lack an element most other motorsport has. racecraft. it would be like watching leman but they ran one car at a time around the circuit. the fact that its on real roads and offroad and such doesnt win back what it loses without racecraft involved.
@@foxboy64
with the advancement of technology, rally organizers should sell the in cockpit and helmet cameras as their main source of real time entertainment broadcast, let the audience see for themselves the thrill that they won't get from road racing... I'm not a racing fan and even then I prefer to play rally games than track racing games because of that thrill factor.
basically market rally as some sort of horror/thriller subgenre in racing as sports.
@@foxboy64the technology of those modern racing games really are advanced.
i love the track design or its unevenness in this sim, in dirt rally 1 & 2 tracks always seemed way too clean, no ruts, no sudden changes. They dont feel like actual roads you get to drive in countryside. The only sim besides this one which managed to capture it, was rbr. Its hard to put into words, but in other sims except rbr, it feels like rally tracks are made to countryside rather than countryside made to rally track.
12:15
That reveal of the rear end had me giggling 🤣🤣🤣
Haha
The fact they have LONG stages now makes this the first rally game I might actually try out, even if it is semi sim. Long stages are 'realism' in their own way.
On a scale of 1-10 how sim is this game? I only played dirt rally 2.0 and I really love that game so just curious
@@Jebadieyeaabout a 5 I guess? I see DR2 as a solid 7
@@CLOYOthis is more realistic than dr 2.0 because they just took the DR 2.0 physics and made them better/ more realistic
@@Emerich2 ohh word that is pretty sick if that is true
@@Jebadieyea yeah but its still not full simulation. If you want best recreation of real life you still have to choose modded Richard Burns Rally but its defenetly a upgrade to DR 2.0
I love your running commentary whilst driving absolutely flat out Jimmy you’d have made for a great top gear presenter back in the day 👌
wasn't much left of that thing at the end lol. driving it like you stole it is only way worth driving rally sims, so much fun.
Ive been lucky enough to sit in a real 205 T16 (B555 SRW).. couldn't believe how basic it was and how flimsy everything felt.. the doors could've been made from paper mache.. absolutely stank of fuel too... Seen the Safari version on display at the Peugeot musuem too, best cars ever made! (Oh, with a bit of Jean Todt input too..)
light as fuck and overpowered, the group b way
No title is completely realistic but I think from seeing so many previews now, The devs have done enough to make this new rally sim a blast to drive!
Love how realistically the boost gauge needle brutally spin once get pressure and after release of throttle! That's perfect!❤
Kenya is an absolute monster to drive in RBR. So glad some of the better stages are showing up in this game
I just love watching you race rally. You take so much joy in it and it comes through. More please.
doorbent mafia!! also, 10:00 when the co-driver is just sitting there after you crash 🤣🤣
Great video again Mr. Broadbent. If you like these cars so much, why not going to watch them in real life?
Have a look at the eifel rallye festival. Normally the 4th week of July in Daun. 30-40 minutes south of the nurburgring. 4 days of incredible cars including the finest group b cars. If you want you can join us. We are going there every year for the last 6 years.
Hey! My car of choice in group B!
I mainly drive historical (group B, group A, H3 mostly) in DR2.0, and I'm still playing the game regularly today, so I'm kind of looking forward to diving into the modern stuff in WRC, but it's still nice to know that there are improvements to look forward to for the historical stuff as well. I'll probably dive pretty quickly into career, since it has a mix of both.
I love how the stages look in this - Dirt's stages always had a bit of a cut/paste feel to them, not helped by the fact so many of them were actually just reversed/shortened/slightly alternate versions of each other. This looks so much more like an actual road, both the scenery and even the road surface itself with the potholes and rocks and the parts where it just turns into tracks with grass growing through it. I do hope the damage modeling at least has the option for realistic damage, I found in the old Dirt games even on the hardcore mode you never really suffered literal stage ending damage until you'd had multiple really big crashes. The 'one crash and your rally is over' feeling is still something only RBR has really managed to do well.
6:22 i wish they added sound to bushes like stick scratching and twig breaks
I love the different camera angles, especially when you hit the tree and show the disappointment of your co- driver lol 😆
Juha Kankkunen said, that in the end the cars were so powerfull , that if you got yourself into trouble , you just floored it, it never went out of torque or power. He also said , but those cars had breaks too .
0:33 That colin mcrae rally 2 soundtrack took me 20 years back. Best WRC game ever.
Genuinely cant wait to try this really like the look of the road detail looks bumpy as it should cant wait!
6:24 oh my yes!!!! the smallest little damn shrub wont kill you instantly! i love it!
That within the years and conditions Group B took place (overcrowded spectators making literal human waves for cars, little to none care for safety by the FIA, cars making 0-60 in 2 seconds ON GRAVEL) would have been an absolute disaster 💀
ive been following the sport my entire life thank you. and if you actually knew anything, im refferring to the earlier game (Dirt Rally 2.0) where the smallest vegetation would damage your car immensly.@@Villardisky
I saw a T16 at Goodwood a few years ago. It’s great to hear that the character of the car comes through in the game as IRL it is a beast. At idle it sounded dangerous. On launch it looked like it tried to rotate the planet, dug four holes and then vanished in a screaming rage. Awesome.
This game is damned impressive, but i hope they'll add or have added an option for increased damage. It seems a touch forgiving.
There is a “hardcore damage” setting but not sure how hardcore it actually is, haven’t seen any videos on it yet
Looking forward to getting my copy of this on release day. A friend of mine has had the opportunity to be hands on with this since at least this time last year, and has had nothing but good things to say about it. Sure, it isn't a sim, but it's still a damn good game, and I'm finally going to have a good reason to hook up my H-Pattern shifter on my rig :D
The most insane thing about this era is that while the cars were mental, so was everything else. there's footage of Ari Vatenen racing a 405 T16 on the Dakar Rally (Essentially this car with a longer wheelbase and a coupe body) and this bloody DAF truck comes up alongside and is either sitting alongside him or passing him when he's flat out in a Group B car on the Dakar rally. If only someone put the DAF Turbo Twin into a game so that we could experience that mental 3000hp twin engined monster
Dude! This looks so fun. Sim or not I wanna have a go at this!
The more WRC content, the battery Jimmer, we love this!
hey jimmy loved the video, always bring a smile on my face. i was wondering if you could go to rally scandia(norway next if you are allowed to, or finnland cuz it is pretty damn fast.
The view distance on some of the stages in this game look breath taking.
And Jimmy continues his years-long tradition of never driving Lancias everytime he tries a rally game :pepehands:
good afternnon jimmer. loving the content :)
Happy to see that you gave this a try, looking forward to buy this soon.
All I got is a gamepad but I think I might enjoy this one. Wondering if it will have any multiplayer full rally events like you've done in RBR? I think it's super cool how those events change how ppl drive to preserve the car through an entire event with really high stakes if a crash happens.
BTW you should drive the S4 next time, it would be hella fun to see you driving that stupidly insane car.
The rollcage commentary hit hard. Too soon, man... Henri Toivonen, we still miss you.
Videos of the original Dirt Rally group B in this channel were what got me into sim racing years ago lol
Whoa! Going full on old school with the clutch and 5spd on this super long stage, getting an actual workout 😅
i learned to fear this car when i looked down in dirt rally and saw the boost gauge pegged at 3 bar
Whoever decided to add in the COD: World at War music near the end of the stage is a legend. Pure nostalgia
I often purchase a rally game on your review/test of the game prior to release. I think I will finally be getting a rally game for the first time in a ling time
Another awesome video! Jimmy never fails to entertain us!
Great video!!
I hope VR is going to be a thing on this one.
9:58 "Now, oversteer is better because you dont see the tree that kills you" - Richard Hammond
10:02 co driver is also driving, very talented man!
Cant imagine how slippery Jimmy's wheel must be after that 20 minute stage
Hey Jimmy to keep the boost up, use left foot braking and keep the throttle pinned to keep the turbos spooled up and use hand brake to slow down
don't think i'd be good at this, but watching you do it is probably more entertaining! :) thank you for that :)
Nice to see someone posting a less than perfect drive. Looked like a blast!!
The poster car for Group B was the Audi Quattro S1, a little heavy, a handful to drive, (much harder than that toycar you are driving) and an absolute beast of a machine. but much better balance,
game does still have a bit of that dirt rally 2 phantom force, where it feels like the car has sort of unnatural trajectories when swinging over a bump once the speed picks up.
game is beautiful! it is an adventure! i do think it can be a showcase of the beautiful country. makes you wanna go there.
I wonder how hard it would be to drive this stage with a RWD Group B monster ?
Lancia 037
is the ta64 celica in game? i beleive it won the safari one year
@@dalton-at-work No Toyotas other than the current Yaris. Hopefully they rectify that through DLC.
@@tomanderson6335 I hope for Toyota themed DLC
@@tomanderson6335 I can't understand why they're left out when pretty much every other legendary rally car is included in some variation or another.
Pedal cam says enough. Great video.
Awesome video as always. Has it got proper triple screen support?
Would love to know how this feels on a wheel Jimmer! Don't know if youre allowed to talk about it yet. You seem to be enjoying it, but would love to know specifics about how it feels with ffb and everything.
It would have been fun to have the toyota celica group b car in this game seeing as they finally have the safari rally which was kinda its home lmao
When I think of Group B it's the Ford RS200 because I used to main that thing for the 400 horsepower races in Gran Turismo 2 lol.
god this looks so fun cant wait
Now this is a proper rally game 🔥🔥🔥
You are the man Jimmer! Preordered a while back. Now i just need 12nm. Lol
loving this jim gutted we have no triple support though
My fav is Audi Sport quattro, but as you said all Group-B cars are great.
The best sounding car.
I can’t wait for this dang game first game I’ve preordered in years.
9:15-9:19 convinced me. There you can see, how the topology of the surface really is there. You can see, how the car wants to drift sideways, but it is thrown into another direction by drifting through the hill.
That could become very interesting for driving. Now you can't just drift around every corner and drive as you usually do, like on almost flat surfaces in the past with maybe a few simulated few bumps that don't affect you and a lot of optics only. Now, you really have to learn how to work WITH the terrain, instead of against it. By looking, by waiting for those bumps and troughs, and steering, using them in a right way, to transfer your weight, so that you can control the direction of your car.
Or at 9:27: The pothole is mean! And really well done in terms how it bangs, and really slows you down.
PS: I specifically analyzed frame for frame. You really can see, how the car falls into the hole, but the speed is still the same. Then it travels the distance in the hole, and then it hits the other side. Ok, the speed is reduced from 50 to 33 in 1 frame, but you can definitely see the stark slowdown effect.
PPS: On EA Sports WRC website, or if you type in the RUclips video ID 4JrEzcLEZkE, you can see unobstructed scenes from the game. I typically like the hood view, and it looks good!
Seems visceral. I only have a VR set up so will have to wait a bit to play
Damn they nailed the sound of the 205
great video- i once had a chance to drive one of these IRL for a couple of KM on a tarmac airstrip... i didn't want to do any more, So scary and savage. i also drove a tesla plaid. Tesla may have been faster. But this thing was like going for a walk with a tiger on a leash ( it may just decide to kill you for shits and giggles ) . I will defo get it - but wait for VR
Thanks for sharing, love the way you describe it ahahah!
It's interesting, it feels like anti-lag killed the turbo lag, but now the turbocharged Rally1 cars are getting something similar in the form of the hybrid boost! Unlike the WRC cars which didn't have either (the turbo lag or the hybrid boost). So I guess we could say the hybrid boost is the current equivalent of turbo lag, at least in terms of catching you by surprise (that is if it works just like in the game, when the boost is activated as soon as you reach a certain percentage of throttle input after it was recharged). Of course, the delay or the power difference aren't as big as with turbo lag in Group B cars, but if it really works like in the game, then drivers could perhaps be caught out by a higher amount of power under their gas pedal (I think Gus Greensmith had a crash last year when that caught him out in one corner, in Spain I believe). Or it may be just my drunk babbling, if so, then please ignore it :D
Either way, thanks for making this video with my favorite Group B car. We had a Peugeot 309 for most of my childhood, it was the car in which my parents brought me home from hospital after I was born, and I fell in love with 80s Peugeots because of it (some of our neighbours also had 205s). I discovered this car in Gran Turismo 4 and loved it ever since!
Can't wait to drive it in the game (but sadly, school has to be the priority now, as I'm graduating in the spring, so I guess I'm gonna wait until then). Just too bad I don't have a shifter to go with my wheel. But I'm sure it's gonna be a blast either way!
If you want to properly do a hand brake turn irl with awd you push the clutch in and pull the hand brake. I’m not sure how the modern ones work but that’s what you have to do for older normal cars.
Older group B didn't have a handbrake to disconnect the differential actually so IRL you wouldn't use it as you do with a modern car.
I waited for this video ever since the game was announced
The wait was worth it
As far as the physics, does it feel more like DR2, or closer to something like WRC Generations?
The 205 T16 evo 2 could output 550 BHP but it was more like 400 to 450 BHP for the sake of not burning the enigne up. In those days the Rally events were marathons unlike todays more sprint like events. For the Safari the Cars were detuned and fitted with extra armored under trays and bash plates to take on the challenging enviroment. Group B was a mixed bag of cutting edge tech in the Engine and Turbo and some of the electronics mixed with thrown together 4WD drive systems with Braking systems not upto the job and single rate suspension that was still in the older Group 4 erea. Tyres were another tech that lacked it was not unknown that these cars stripped the treads off way before they completed the stages so managing tyres was very important over going flatout. The classic example being the 1985 Sanremo Rally which saw a huge battle between the then New Audi Quattro S1 Evo 2 winged monster Piloted by Driving legend Walter Röhrl and the all winning 205 T16 Evo 1 Röhl gave a master class in fast driving on that multi day event setting a pace so high that the 205 T16's stripped their tyres bare. Röhrl also said if you had time to think driving a Group B car you would be dead there was no time to think. It is hard for those who did not grow up during the 70's and first half of the 80's just what a challeng Rallying was multi day events lasting upto five days .with stages spaning day and nights .with very limited rest times no central services.this was fine with the Group 4 mostly 2 WD cars with upto 275 bhp . But it quickly became dangerous when Group B arrived from 1983 forwards . It was then only a matter of time before something major happened. These cars changed the landscape of Rallying forever . I miss the old marathon events like the Lombard RAC were I got to see my first live rallycars it was a challenge trying to get from one stage to another just to glims a rally car for a few seconds on a stage .being over taken by full blown rally cars while trying to make the next stage underways or having your local Petrol Station been taken over by the works Audi team or Lancia to do between stag service's if only Smart phones had been around then. All is such a long time ago now and they have become myths just like the Silver Arrows were back in the late 30's for GP racing .
I can't wait for this to get the VR patch.
this game seems like it catches the feeling of speed much better than Dirt Rally 2.0, that little Peugeot seemed genuinely scary
it touches my heart to hear the guy drive at my country kenya
Would love to see Group A Delta Integrale, it's not as mad as this but I'm curious how it compares.
Since you mentioned the setup, would be cool to have a setup video on how you would set the car up and see the difference, I'm so bad at that.
4:01 gave me a laugh, you're selling me on this game, I might need a new wheel...
nothing beats a saturday afternoon doing high speed sight seeing on a living room tv. in HD. :D
Hah, of course Jimmy is the first preview ive seen of cutting past the anti-cut post. Useful info to see it in practice, though. 😂
I hope they sort that vegetation pop in on the replays for the actual release code
Remember that sim rig with inflatable harness to simulate G forces?
Think it could cope with this?
The beat coming in at the last stretch was pretty cool. And the cut to external view showing the rear of the car completely missing was hilarious.
I guess I'm sticking with DR 2.0 for now 'cause I can't afford to upgrade from the old PS4 just yet. :(
I wanted to like WRC Generations, but it feels like a bit of a disaster on the PS4. Horrible menus too, and it seems like the devs abandoned it soon after launch. And it's only 30 fps, which I usually don't mind, but not for racing games.
Listen, that 205 has always been my favourite car when I was a little whipper snapper what a pleasure to see you send my baby through the fresh plains of Hell
Group B Lancia Delta S4. aka the Widowmaker. Most dangerous group b ever. Need to be like ballet driving those monsters. Counter Steering, correct gear in turns, jumps, and bumps. I miss Dirt games, racing online with friends.
Game seems like an upgraded Dirt rally . I'm happy about that.
Great video as always thanks Jimmy!
just the sheer skill of this man.... id end up in turkey after that first hairpin
Hi Jimmy, great video. Super spins. Could you let us all know what the cockpit customisation is like for those of us who drive with the wheel turned off. Can we adjust sitting position in that cam view you had, or is it just that. Obvs more driving as well please.
Looks like Fun. Perhaps Black Falcons, you and the boys should try a Rallye-Cross Event at the Nürburgring
Jimmy: "That looks like a tree in the rear view"
Tree: "I am the spirit of the rebel tr.. Hey, where you going"?!
The Group B drivers had to be completely insane but I loved to watch them drive. I’m surprised those Group B cars could carry the weight of the drivers balls because you had to have huge balls to drive as fast as they did on some of those courses.
You know Jimmer likes a game when he makes a second video on it
Also Group B for the win
Or he knows he's going to get more views because people want to see how the game is...
@@LegendaryNuggets also true
I think he has a contract, last video ended with him saying he needs to record two more of them which means there should be one more coming
@@LegendaryNuggetsi mean, it's the new rally game it's granted views regardless, but the reception from the real enthusiasts has been honestly positive and i think that he does legitmently enjoy it.
in the first video on this pre release build he said there'd be a total of 3, seems like he has some sort of agreement with Codies-EA.
10:00 In lieu of a local Rally Buddha, we have Rebel Tree's Kenyan cousin saving Jimmer from a grisly fate
i cant wait for this to come out, i've already bought it on xbox
This is going to be awesome in vr and motion simulator I hope.
Does this game have the Dirt Rally replay music like seen in the end was it edited in? I really love the replay music from DR games so would be a huge bonus for me to have it in...
The poor peugeot at the end turned into like an Mx5
Great video this game looks great