Also I don’t wanna hear Aaron Donald’s name next to his ever again, my boi can have 5 sacks in a game and we’ll still end up losing, it’s just a trendy thing to say, and this is coming from a Rams fan, sorry
You’re only really thinking about qb’s. Their are a multitude of players who have amazing seasons but are not a big enough position or factor to carry their teams into the playoffs. for example, I’m pretty sure Derrick Henry would’ve ended up being the #1 rb if playoffs were taken into account, even though CMC is better overall and also prolly would’ve had a good post season.
There were a couple of clips where people are talking about the playoffs. So I think it was at least January. Go watch Derrick Henry’s video towards the end they are talking about the Ravens vs Titans playoff game.
its an outrage if they actually give out these ballots around thanksgiving, how are you gonna vote on the best player before half of the season even happens smh
I mean not really when you put it in perspective. Lamar jackson played less in the regular season than Mahomes. Imagine the stats Lamar would have had if he didnt get benched in THE THIRD QUARTER of games. N he also sat a whole game at the end. So it really isnt an outrage. That's just me tho.
Pat was hurt during both the Colts and Texans game, which is why he ultimately got injured the next week vs Denver; They even had a running stat during those 2 games showing his numbers in those games before he got his ankle retweeked and after, and the difference was obvious; His only other loss last year was vs. the Titans, first game back and he couldn't really run; IMO, when he was healthy last year, Pat was 14-0 including playoffs; As a Chiefs fan, having watched this kid play 2 seasons, I don't worry about losing any game he starts...dude is too clutch.
Chiefs were not down 24-0 to Houston because of Mahomes. His receivers were dropping the ball the entire first quarter. There was a blocked punt TD for Houston right after Kelce dropped an easy 3rd down conversion. Tyreek Hill dropped a Houston punt at the 5 yard line and gave Houston an easy 7 points.
I was thinking the same damn thing. Just because they were down 24 nothing doesn't mean that he was playing bad matter of fact he didn't have anything to do with that deficit. He sure had a lot to do with bringing them back though.
I'm in my forties I've been a lifelong NFL fan and I've never seen anything like I saw a Mahomes do in the playoffs last , was a most amazing games to watch
Agreed. However the 07 Giants and the 12 Ravens were incredoble too. Both teams won on the road in both divisional and championship games all the way to a superbowl win
Have you watched a Tom Brady comeback? Tom beats teams with undrafted not big college guys who havent ever even played wideout. He takes 3 white guys who arent even in the top 20 wrs in the NFL and wins.
As a Die Hard Chiefs fan since I was a little guy. Your totally right. Russ has done everything right for many years now. I'd rather see Russ #1 than #2
Shannon killed skip on this finally someone said Alex had the weapons 💯 Been saying that for the last two years defending Mahomes 2018 case & and we lost hunt we only had for 7 games if could remember Although I still love Alex as a Chiefs fan but the truth is in the pudding folks 🤷🏽♂️#15
corey thomas that he didn’t but if u listen too video above bro he was speaking about 2018 too not just 2019 of course he didn’t have them bro wym lmao 😂💀
dumoneyy23 Yes which I loved him for many of times he did and he will always be one of my favorite quarterbacks this has nothing to do with Alex would wish him nothing but success but I have spoke on that a lot with my friends and my Homies For some reason we just never got the job done with him as quarterback That loss against the Titans I definitely don’t put that on him wish him nothing but success hopefully he get a chance to win a Super Bowl to prove people wrong don’t get it twisted I’m still Alex Smith fan
I do agree with that but it was one of those weird Seasons Mahomes got hurt in the middle of the season and he still lit it up, it's just going to be really fun watching those to the next few years I just think Mahomes is going to end up lighting the NFL on fire even more than he already has LOL
First of all. This aint even that serious. Ya'll need to relax. Second of all, the players had to vote in November. So by the time the NFL got all the votes, the playoffs didnt even start. Lamar separated himself from the MVP race by December. And Mahomes was also hurt for a few games and we saw his numbers fall off. The only reason I can think as to why Mahomes was 4 last year was that he was neck and neck with Brees and didnt pull through until near the end of the season. I remember him going on a tear in the last few weeks of the season to establish himself as MVP.
People just didn’t want to give Mahomes the MVP because Brees hasn’t won one but Mahomes was my MVP probably by that Rams game on MNF and the Ravens OT win just solidified it.
@@noelbackwards Mahomes has an MVP. He very might have had two, if he didn't get hurt last year. But, if you look at Lamar Jackson's season last year, it would have been hard not to give him.the MVP
Zero in the first quarter then 28 in the 2nd quarter, Im from KC & truthful that was more exciting than than winning the superbowl, because when they did that, WE KNEW we were winning the Superbowl with no doubt, that was our Superbowl in KC
That game is houston, guys we’re dropping balls like crazy, Tyreek turned the ball over that placed houston right in the red zone. A kick was blocked and houston got a td off that. So that’s 14 points on two turnovers that had nothing to do with Mahomes. But the team made up for it.
Titans game too, there were 2-3 dropped passes early on as well and Mahomes wasn’t even played bad by any means that game he just wasn’t throwing lights out until the second quarter
@@djr3385 Based n your logic the same could be said about the Ravens Titans game. There were some very ugly drops in that game that should have been catches. Which would have definitely swung the momentum in the Ravens favor. Everyone is pointing to 1 game and saying Lamar doesn't deserve to be #1 because he FINALLY had a bad game (at the worst time) but that man played lights out all season. So domination was his play that multiple games he sat out the fourth quarter because it was already over.
When Brady came back from 28-3 Skip waxed lyrical about how clutch that was but never mentioned his poor first half but he's criticizing Mahomes' first half in the Super Bowl???
@NoName Banes like I said, every goat has played bad at times. Mahomes doesn't have to be perfect. Mahomes threw for over 4800 yards and 35 tds in 16 games if you add the playoffs. And he was clutch. He balled out with injuries all around him. He's not overrated at all. He has earned all the hype. Lamar is the real one who is overhyped as the best player in the league.
@NoName Banes "Shouldn't play bad at all"?? Single dumbest thing I've ever read! So is he supposed to be perfect? What player has ever not had a bad drive, quarter or half? They just mentioned that Brady played poorly for a half in the SB against the Falcons and he was in year what 16 or 17??
RichiRicheh Wilson is doing more with less give him respect. Lamar defeat some amazing defense, Aaron Donald is a destructive killer and should be ahead of Mahome
Slick Videos but lamar lost to the same team mahomes beat to not only get to the Super Bowl but then beat the best defense in the league hey man nice logic tho
Glad Wilson is getting his props. Considering what he's achieved in the last 3 years with that squad in Seattle, I'm pretty sure he would be posting Mahomes-like numbers if he were in KC. But since we'll never know that, Mahomes deserves to be 1
I pretty much totally agree with Shannon, yeah Lamar deserved MVP, but Mahomes is definitely still the best player. If the voting is before the playoff, I guess it’s not utterly ridiculous that Mahomes wasn’t number one, but even at that point of the season I still thought Mahomes was the best, even though once again yes, Lamar deserved MVP.
javaan smith u realize Alex smith went to the playoffs wit that team pat mahomes had right? Who’s supporting cast would you rather take lamars or mahomes? That’s why I give the nod to Lamar. Can’t name anyone on the ravens better than kelce
peterfrknpan think of it this way. The system they both play in. The hawks are more run heavy and less throwing. Wilson is one of the best scramble deep thrower in the game. 100% Wilson will thrive in Reid’s offense. Also having one of the best Te and wr helps too. Both are great
Darius Bernard read my previous comment.. if they let Wilson reign loose, his number would be insane. And he doesn’t have the weapons Mahomes has. Don’t get me wrong both are amazing. Also Wilson’s Oline is average at best maybe worse. And their offense is more run heavy.
Mahomes could throw for 7k & 80 TDs, go 16-0, win the super bowl & people would say, “if Kirk cousins was on the chiefs with those weapons, I’m pretty sure he would throw for 10k yards and 100 tds in a season. Let’s see how good he is if he played without teammates & coached himself”
I get why Lamar was the number 1 ratedvQB this year if you base it off regular season. Then why wasnt mahomes the number 1 rated QB last year if we base it on the regular season? Inconsistent voting. Moving the finish line further for some and closer for others.
Russell had great numbers with a worst team, mahomes had a better wr core compare to wilson and a much better oline and Russell was still productive. Hard to say mahomes had a better season than Russell Wilson.
@@bobrules1502 if last year was when Donald almost beat the single season sack record then its debatable between them. And you're right that he definitely shouldn't have been 4th. 2nd at worst was where I would have put him last year
Seattle runs a balanced offense where they run and throw about equally. That helps take the pressure off Russ and helps the offensive line not have to pass protect as much. When Russ has had higher passing attempts in his career, his efficiency went down.
I never believed that one person make the team. Patrick Mahomes has proved me wrong on that one so many times. He is a piece that fits in our puzzle in Kansas City so perfectly. I truly feel that you could put any other quarterback in Kansas City and they would not have the success that Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is truly one-of-a-kind
kamdaddypurp they play with them other think how they feel playing against Lamar they amazed now imagine when the kid get better and better Lamar ready be what Jordan was to the NBA he will continue to get better
Mahomes got Aaron Gordon'd twice; #4 a year ago with league MVP & AFC championship appearance just to top it this past year with a Superbowl & Superbowl MVP still #4 ; might be a little hating going on lls
Brett nahh the list isn’t who’s the most important player who’s the best. Don’t get important with best. I’m a cowboy fan and dak is more important than Donald or Gilmore but won’t say he’s better
Idk if Skip has seen the All 22 footage for that play, but Mahomes threw that ball early and into space with pretty incredible anticipation and under significant duress. Shannon was right in saying 2 people could complete that throw, Rodgers and Mahomes. That was not a lucky throw at all, it was one of the best throws of the year.
The players play with them they obviously feel as though Lamar is amazing they never seen anything like it but imagine when Lamar just keep getting better he only 23
Mahomes is very resilient, and has overcome a lot of adversity in his first three years of professional football.. From watching from the sideline is first year, having a historic season the second year, and his third year was all over the place mentally, physically, and emotionally.... And STILL!!!
@@triggatrey2715 dead serious... First off, he put a huge amount of pressure on himself, for having a great season in the previous year.. So, the questions about his skills, after sitting behind Alex Smith, was proven... So to come out, have poor games, offensive line not so good, recievers bac and forth healthy, then have the freak accidental injury, he had... Absolutely!!! They were on the verge of damn near not making the playoffs, had he not returned... I've watched him rally on his defense, who was certainly poor the year before, but still had confidence in his team on the other side of the ball... The come bac wins in the playoffs, and Super Bowl??? What do you mean???? Are you crazy, or nuts??? They had a real rollercoaster ride my dude.. So yeah, RESILIENT is the word I used, to describe his commitment to overcoming ADVERSITY... Stop trolling, and rewatch the entire season last year...
Lamar had one of the greatest seasons of any player in any sport. More impressive than any other NFL player in history. The ranking is not about who is the best. The players actually play against each other so that factors in the rankings too. Pat also has a better offense around him so its not all on him like Lamar. Lamar's team failed him where Pat's team saved him.
The Titans shut down Lamar Jackson. Pat Mahomes shredded the Titans like they weren’t there and broke their will to fight by half time. All due props to Lamar, he’s spectacular. Mahomboy is better. He’s better than everyone. Like, look what he did.
Jealousy my friend. Well I'm a Ravens fan and even tho I love Lamar more, I did want Mahomes to be #1, but again I think if not jealousy, then it's because they voted only based on regular season.
Skip, tell the truth on that Hill play. They even have it on film Mahomes calling that play, that’s the route. Shannon keep him in check. That’s the play!!! Damn skip.
I’m not shocked because Lamar did break a lot of records and led the team to a nice streak. Clearly Mahomes is the better QB but what Lamar did won him #1
I appreciate Shannon for saying Russell has weapons. Cause Lockett and DK are no joke. Now they got Dorsett, Gordon, and Olsen. That’s some serious firepower
Love you both! But just a question to Shannon : If playoff performance and winning from down under with stellar leadership makes Mahomes better than Jackson (And I agree), how can you justify ranking LeBron James higher than Michael Jordan as a player? (Skip, if you read this then please bring it up next time, LOL)
@@BG33917 Cam Newton was also MVP a few years back, and what? I wanna see chicken leg Lamar do it on a consistent level for 4 or 5 years then he can be top 5. My guy Wilson has a track record, the only thing your "MVP" has is a 0-2 playoff record, both losses at HOME
Mahomes was Lamar two seasons ago, won mvp in his first full season and he got ranked 4th. The fact Lamar is first this year with the exact same scenario (with mahomes winning the SUPER BOWL) is absurd
All the times tom brady was ranked number 1 were in the same sb winning seasons. Never because of stats. That wouldnt make sense if voting goes out in november. Jackson might be more athletic, which is still a big argument, but mahomes is more clutch..
Lamar was mvp this year of course he was gonna be number 1 he led the league in touchdowns and broke the rushing record for a qb why are people shocked he’s number 1 🤦♂️
I can imagine many players vote for themselves as 1 out of 20, a fun list but imperfect process. Matt Ryan is the most underrated player in the league.
If you watch the NFL video of the top players, it's the players that choose the top players. Some players see players more in the season in their division. If you got someone balling out against you in that year you're going to remember it and put them in your top 10 or top 20. Pat MacAffee game a little breakdown of how it worked when he went to the pro bowl, and had a chance to vote on the top players of that year. I think the pro bowlers votes have more weight to them as far as how the top 10 are ranked.
@@streetjustice6504 only Kelce was elite and Kareem Hunt. Tyreek Hill was a punt returning specialist and Sammy Watkins was a bust, Mecole was a 3rd rounder I think
RW is the best overall qb most definitely. He wins, most consistently and efficient qb for years. I rarely turns the ball over and has carried a ok offensive team for over 5 years missing the playoffs once. PM and LJ have great o lines and offensive players all around unlike the Hawks. RW all the way.
I don’t know why Stanford doesn’t get any props. He is a helluva QB. It’s not his fault Detroit won’t build up the team around him. Reminds me of Sanders.
Benjamin Valenzuela the ownership and management in Detroit is horrendous. Stafford on another competently run team would be insane. Imagine him on the Patriots, he would be insane on that team.
@@brianbacon6719: No excuses for Aaron Donald but his impactt in a league geared toward the QB is far less significant, I believe we both agree on that sir...
Mahomes was the first player in playoff history to have a game with 300 passing yards, 5 passing TD's, and 50 rush yards. Better to be special in the postseason
Truthfully, as a Chiefs fan, I can see players throwing Russ some love based on his longevity. And I can see the defense needing some props, so Aaron Donald makes sense. But Lamar? C'mon, man!
Lamar Jackson has great leadership skills and shows humility when the shine gets on him, you gotta respect the guy who carried his team on his back and made them look good. He was the best nfl player who didn’t whine about his team and made the NFL fun to watch.
Live And Inspired in what universe? Brady always had the best coach and a great defense. Mahomes never had either. Mahomes has a MUCH better arm, is more mobile, and more clutch. Brady went up against a very good Giants D I. The super bowl and failed. 14 points? Mahomes went up against a better Niner defense and smoked them. Brady’s has the best career because Bradshaw got hurt young and Mahomes hasn’t done it yet. Maybe he will, maybe he won’t, but no QB has ever dominated in the clutch like Mahomes 5 playoff games = 5 MVP Level performances.
Calm down hahaha dude has amazing weapons on offense and a great offensive minded head coach! He almost turned Donavon Mcnabb into a mvp and Alex smith was really good in his system. Don’t get me wrong the kid is extremely talented but give Aaron Rodgers that team with that coach and watch what he would do!
I'd still pick Wilson over Mahomes. And i can understand why Jackson given a high rank cos that kid can nearly do it all! But not better than Mahomes yet!
I get what skip is saying about Aaron Donald, but what’s the difference between AD, Reggie White, and Lawrence Taylor? 2 of them are edge rushers, one of them is a DT. DT is much harder to play than Edge imo and your production goes down a lot when you’re getting double and triple teamed every play. Cowboys O-line is stacked also so of course he won’t have big games against them.
Does skip not realize that they called that play on purpose. No one was anywhere near Tyreek to make an interception. It was no punt. That was planned and it worked amazingly. Simple
I don’t agree wit the Alex Smith take. Alex has something like 25 26 touchdowns with those weapons. Give Wilson those weapons he’d be even better than mahomes
Is it fair that Patrick Mahomes was ranked behind Lamar Jackson & Russell Wilson?
nope
Absolutely
Yes definitely
Not at all. Can’t believe they put Aaron Donald top 3
Also I don’t wanna hear Aaron Donald’s name next to his ever again, my boi can have 5 sacks in a game and we’ll still end up losing, it’s just a trendy thing to say, and this is coming from a Rams fan, sorry
I don’t like the fact it goes out in November cause some guys really be having insane stats in December when it counts
Yeah like Derrick Henry
You’re only really thinking about qb’s. Their are a multitude of players who have amazing seasons but are not a big enough position or factor to carry their teams into the playoffs. for example, I’m pretty sure Derrick Henry would’ve ended up being the #1 rb if playoffs were taken into account, even though CMC is better overall and also prolly would’ve had a good post season.
There were a couple of clips where people are talking about the playoffs. So I think it was at least January. Go watch Derrick Henry’s video towards the end they are talking about the Ravens vs Titans playoff game.
KingOfSnub yeah but they submitted their ballots earlier on in the season. I don’t think they interviewed them at the same time
Lamb Ngafeeson ooh yah that makes sense.
Mahomes scores 117 points in the play offs, he plays for the Chiefs ...... he’s the Master Chief..
This comment is the MOST argeeable
...... uh noo
The master chief can do it on his own Mahomes can’t. imagine if one lamar or Russell Wilson had his weapons
@@shrekspizza4203 xD
Don't leave me
its an outrage if they actually give out these ballots around thanksgiving, how are you gonna vote on the best player before half of the season even happens smh
I mean not really when you put it in perspective. Lamar jackson played less in the regular season than Mahomes. Imagine the stats Lamar would have had if he didnt get benched in THE THIRD QUARTER of games. N he also sat a whole game at the end. So it really isnt an outrage. That's just me tho.
It can’t obviously because mvp isn’t even given out I’m November
They give it up at the pro bowl according to pat macafee
@@hyperkillspree3691 no, mahomes got hurt he missed games as well
HyperKill Spree mahomes was injured for a good 4 games tho...
Why would they vote in November, and release it in July? Sounds like y'all had months in between to vote accurately
They also have to make a video for 100 players and interview guys after the season is over. That takes time
Just so they can have debates like this.
For TV ratings, no football in july.
This makes no sense, because I'm 100% sure, Henry is not ranked 10th without the Playoffs
@@kingcollins3965 I can get down with this logic
Skip it wasn't a lucky throw my God , Tyreek had the CB on his heels the entire route & Pat knew it. Skiiiiippppppppp
Maaan as many times I’ve watched that play idk what skip is seeing. They showed the wide camera angle and the CB wasn’t even in the picture lol
skip getting ollllld
@@Mark_Ellzy at all. Tyreek turned him around, he was on his heels terrified of the Speed 😅😅😅😅😅
@@christopherk2841 😅😅😅😅😅
Pat was hurt during both the Colts and Texans game, which is why he ultimately got injured the next week vs Denver; They even had a running stat during those 2 games showing his numbers in those games before he got his ankle retweeked and after, and the difference was obvious; His only other loss last year was vs. the Titans, first game back and he couldn't really run; IMO, when he was healthy last year, Pat was 14-0 including playoffs; As a Chiefs fan, having watched this kid play 2 seasons, I don't worry about losing any game he starts...dude is too clutch.
How come the only time one of them actually said something like “SHOCKED” the didn’t put it as the dang title 😂
cause this is the official channel
The knockoff channels do
@@bikingchupei2447 yeah. those chinese bot channels are so cringe with their titles. they make literally no sense
Chiefs were not down 24-0 to Houston because of Mahomes. His receivers were dropping the ball the entire first quarter. There was a blocked punt TD for Houston right after Kelce dropped an easy 3rd down conversion. Tyreek Hill dropped a Houston punt at the 5 yard line and gave Houston an easy 7 points.
Yeah and they blew a coverage to give Houston an easy TD as well.
I was thinking the same damn thing. Just because they were down 24 nothing doesn't mean that he was playing bad matter of fact he didn't have anything to do with that deficit. He sure had a lot to do with bringing them back though.
Exactly, Mahomes also got up on the Texans by halftime at 28-24! Actually more in like 9 minutes he scored them 28 points.
@@jasonensley887 yall always want to give him all the credit when they win but none of the blame when they losing...🤦♀️
@@productrecall5183 because Mahomes doesn't play defense nor on special teams. And those were the units giving up points to the texans.
Did skip really just say he’s upset about baker mayfield not makin the list at 5:05 🤦♂️
Ikr, cause a top 15(at best) qb deserve a spot in a 22 position league.
Dokkan God hahahah lmao 😂 for real both these guys r cray cray in the head
Dokkan God but I am glad when Shannon Sharpe called out Lamar Jackson for not being great when his team needed him to be
What's up with him & Oklahoma QBs?
Two years ago I would be upset but last year nah definitely not. He should have a comeback year but wouldnt take much to beat last years performance.
I'm in my forties I've been a lifelong NFL fan and I've never seen anything like I saw a Mahomes do in the playoffs last , was a most amazing games to watch
Agreed. However the 07 Giants and the 12 Ravens were incredoble too. Both teams won on the road in both divisional and championship games all the way to a superbowl win
Have you watched a Tom Brady comeback? Tom beats teams with undrafted not big college guys who havent ever even played wideout. He takes 3 white guys who arent even in the top 20 wrs in the NFL and wins.
He was as good as anyone I have seen in 53 years of watching/going to games.
lol the Texans game was special but other than that he was okay. Forgettable to me
PhillyG I cant even find the right words to say to you since your comment is so dumb. Really just the Texans and every other game is forgettable??
Russ finally got respect on his name
Next up Westbrook with the finals mvp
As a Die Hard Chiefs fan since I was a little guy. Your totally right. Russ has done everything right for many years now. I'd rather see Russ #1 than #2
fr ong, Russell Wilson is a dawg
No cap
Doesn’t deserve it. No chip for a good franchise since he signed with them.
Tony romo scrambler at most but not a champion.
Shannon killed skip on this finally someone said Alex had the weapons 💯 Been saying that for the last two years defending Mahomes 2018 case & and we lost hunt we only had for
7 games if could remember Although I still love Alex as a Chiefs fan but the truth is in the pudding folks 🤷🏽♂️#15
He didn't have Sammy and macole hardmen
corey thomas that he didn’t but if u listen too video above bro he was speaking about
2018 too not just 2019 of course he didn’t have them bro wym lmao 😂💀
Evil Twin didn’t Alex smith take y’all to the playoffs 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
dumoneyy23 Yes which I loved him for many of times he did and he will always be one of my favorite quarterbacks this has nothing to do with Alex would wish him nothing but success but I have spoke on that a lot with my friends and my Homies For some reason we just never got the job done with him as quarterback That loss against the Titans I definitely don’t put that on him wish him nothing but success hopefully he get a chance to win a Super Bowl to prove people wrong don’t get it twisted I’m still Alex Smith fan
Skip you just have to give it up Mahomes is amazing, you just have to admit it brother
But last season Lamar was just better no disrespect to Mahomes but Lamar just had a better season
I do agree with that but it was one of those weird Seasons Mahomes got hurt in the middle of the season and he still lit it up, it's just going to be really fun watching those to the next few years I just think Mahomes is going to end up lighting the NFL on fire even more than he already has LOL
This is the new brady- Manning
First of all. This aint even that serious. Ya'll need to relax.
Second of all, the players had to vote in November. So by the time the NFL got all the votes, the playoffs didnt even start. Lamar separated himself from the MVP race by December. And Mahomes was also hurt for a few games and we saw his numbers fall off.
The only reason I can think as to why Mahomes was 4 last year was that he was neck and neck with Brees and didnt pull through until near the end of the season. I remember him going on a tear in the last few weeks of the season to establish himself as MVP.
People just didn’t want to give Mahomes the MVP because Brees hasn’t won one but Mahomes was my MVP probably by that Rams game on MNF and the Ravens OT win just solidified it.
Rufus Maruf keep reading he explained that
@@noelbackwards Mahomes has an MVP. He very might have had two, if he didn't get hurt last year. But, if you look at Lamar Jackson's season last year, it would have been hard not to give him.the MVP
Very reasonable take
@Rufus Maruf that's what I said
Chiefs scored 28 in the first half of the Housten Game. Ended with 51..
Zero in the first quarter then 28 in the 2nd quarter, Im from KC & truthful that was more exciting than than winning the superbowl, because when they did that, WE KNEW we were winning the Superbowl with no doubt, that was our Superbowl in KC
PATRICK MAHOMES is ranked where???🤣🤣🤣 I didnt know this was comedy central 🤣🤣🤣
The voting was done in October or November. I was like WTF until I found that out
Courtney Lorello no it’s not
@@christianmandigo5108 they just said the voting was done in November
@@christianmandigo5108 I've heard that from multiple sources, including this video. I can't guarantee that it's true.
11-29-20. Just watched Mahomes torch Brady's Buccs. Mahomes is #1. MVP. Full stop!
This is the most objective argument I’ve ever seen skip....EVER😂😂😂
Skip is objective as long as Lebron, Rodgers and Brady aren’t in the argument 😂 he actually got sense sometimes
@@jayfizz545 don't forget his Cowboys! Sadly, his Spurs are dead to him now
It's not objective.... It's Russell Wilson and them facts...
@@diallo1347as they should be
Not really, it wasn’t objective at all
Skip really tried to talk trash on the Wasp play lmao.
That game is houston, guys we’re dropping balls like crazy, Tyreek turned the ball over that placed houston right in the red zone. A kick was blocked and houston got a td off that. So that’s 14 points on two turnovers that had nothing to do with Mahomes.
But the team made up for it.
Titans game too, there were 2-3 dropped passes early on as well and Mahomes wasn’t even played bad by any means that game he just wasn’t throwing lights out until the second quarter
@@djr3385 Based n your logic the same could be said about the Ravens Titans game. There were some very ugly drops in that game that should have been catches. Which would have definitely swung the momentum in the Ravens favor. Everyone is pointing to 1 game and saying Lamar doesn't deserve to be #1 because he FINALLY had a bad game (at the worst time) but that man played lights out all season. So domination was his play that multiple games he sat out the fourth quarter because it was already over.
When Brady came back from 28-3 Skip waxed lyrical about how clutch that was but never mentioned his poor first half but he's criticizing Mahomes' first half in the Super Bowl???
@NoName Banes that makes no sense. Anybody and everybody who has ever been considered the goat has played bad at times
@NoName Banes like I said, every goat has played bad at times. Mahomes doesn't have to be perfect. Mahomes threw for over 4800 yards and 35 tds in 16 games if you add the playoffs. And he was clutch. He balled out with injuries all around him. He's not overrated at all. He has earned all the hype. Lamar is the real one who is overhyped as the best player in the league.
@NoName Banes spoken like a true hater
@NoName Banes ok kid lol
@NoName Banes "Shouldn't play bad at all"?? Single dumbest thing I've ever read! So is he supposed to be perfect? What player has ever not had a bad drive, quarter or half? They just mentioned that Brady played poorly for a half in the SB against the Falcons and he was in year what 16 or 17??
Based on the 2019 season the top 5 best players were
1. Lamar Jackson
2. Russell Wilson
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Stephon Gilmore
5. Michael Thomas
Yes I agree why is Aaron Donald ahead of mahomes
switch Wilson and Mahomes and I agree.
@@RichiRicheh No
RichiRicheh Wilson is doing more with less give him respect. Lamar defeat some amazing defense, Aaron Donald is a destructive killer and should be ahead of Mahome
Slick Videos but lamar lost to the same team mahomes beat to not only get to the Super Bowl but then beat the best defense in the league hey man nice logic tho
Glad Wilson is getting his props. Considering what he's achieved in the last 3 years with that squad in Seattle, I'm pretty sure he would be posting Mahomes-like numbers if he were in KC. But since we'll never know that, Mahomes deserves to be 1
You can thank coaching for Wilson not to have Mahomes numbers.
Patrick Mahomes should have been #1. I mean everyone expected him to be already.
Skip "I was there" Bayless
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Lol!!
I pretty much totally agree with Shannon, yeah Lamar deserved MVP, but Mahomes is definitely still the best player. If the voting is before the playoff, I guess it’s not utterly ridiculous that Mahomes wasn’t number one, but even at that point of the season I still thought Mahomes was the best, even though once again yes, Lamar deserved MVP.
At that point wilson looked better
Mahomes is legit but if I'm being honest, Jackson has the higher ceiling...
Not about who is better in general it's about who played better that season
@Monster2424 Miguel Lamar didn't have to make come backs.
javaan smith u realize Alex smith went to the playoffs wit that team pat mahomes had right? Who’s supporting cast would you rather take lamars or mahomes? That’s why I give the nod to Lamar. Can’t name anyone on the ravens better than kelce
Put some respect on Wilson’s name. Guy is a beast with that oline
No one said he’s not good. Or great. He is. He’s not Patrick
peterfrknpan think of it this way. The system they both play in. The hawks are more run heavy and less throwing. Wilson is one of the best scramble deep thrower in the game. 100% Wilson will thrive in Reid’s offense. Also having one of the best Te and wr helps too. Both are great
tyrese smith what makes u say that ???
Darius Bernard read my previous comment.. if they let Wilson reign loose, his number would be insane. And he doesn’t have the weapons Mahomes has. Don’t get me wrong both are amazing. Also Wilson’s Oline is average at best maybe worse. And their offense is more run heavy.
@tyrese smith Mediocre at best? That's a little much.
Mahomes could throw for 7k & 80 TDs, go 16-0, win the super bowl & people would say, “if Kirk cousins was on the chiefs with those weapons, I’m pretty sure he would throw for 10k yards and 100 tds in a season. Let’s see how good he is if he played without teammates & coached himself”
I get why Lamar was the number 1 ratedvQB this year if you base it off regular season. Then why wasnt mahomes the number 1 rated QB last year if we base it on the regular season? Inconsistent voting. Moving the finish line further for some and closer for others.
The players vote tho
I understand why Lamar was number 1, based on the season he had. But damn, Mahomes is at least number two.
Russell had great numbers with a worst team, mahomes had a better wr core compare to wilson and a much better oline and Russell was still productive. Hard to say mahomes had a better season than Russell Wilson.
Russell deserves 2 he has a bad oline and no RB and won some tough road games, you people don’t watch football man I swear
Kermit the Frog is #1
joseph Henry how Mahomes won the super bowl how is that not a better season
Russell carried the entire team on his back. I am a Frisco fan and still recognize how great he is. These other quarterbacks had great teams.
If this was done before the playoffs then it's accurate
Exactly
Then that would mean last years wasn’t accurate
Judging by the interviews it was
Lamar Jackson isn't the better player. He just had better stats because Mahomes was injured.
@@bobrules1502 if last year was when Donald almost beat the single season sack record then its debatable between them. And you're right that he definitely shouldn't have been 4th. 2nd at worst was where I would have put him last year
The problem for Russ isn’t the weapons, it’s the way they run the offense
And the awful o-line
He's basically a black Aaron Rodgers
Any real Hawks fan knows this
Seattle runs a balanced offense where they run and throw about equally. That helps take the pressure off Russ and helps the offensive line not have to pass protect as much. When Russ has had higher passing attempts in his career, his efficiency went down.
imagine if he had reek tho... Tyler lockett on steroids
I never believed that one person make the team. Patrick Mahomes has proved me wrong on that one so many times. He is a piece that fits in our puzzle in Kansas City so perfectly. I truly feel that you could put any other quarterback in Kansas City and they would not have the success that Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is truly one-of-a-kind
For everybody who listen🗣️🗣️ dont give up we in this together🤜🏾🤛🏾 I pray if yall wanna be RUclipsrs like me or Great dont give up💛
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Keep grinding we will grow!
Why y'all mad it's a player vote not media or fans!
And players still listen to the media lmao
kamdaddypurp they play with them other think how they feel playing against Lamar they amazed now imagine when the kid get better and better Lamar ready be what Jordan was to the NBA he will continue to get better
Mr Magic 1107 but he isn’t better than Mahomes yet lmao this isn’t about the future this is now mahomes should’ve been ranked higher
The voting was done BEFORE the playoffs.
Mahomes was still better then.
@@lastofthestarmakers3660 Stop the bs Mahomes did not have the better regular season
Elvir Doko they need to change it bc Lamar won it? Lmao yall are insane
@@lastofthestarmakers3660 By no stretch did Mahomes have a better reg season then Lamar.
@@crazyfootball1556 seeing Lamar succeed makes people so mad its actually funny at this point
Mahomes got Aaron Gordon'd twice; #4 a year ago with league MVP & AFC championship appearance just to top it this past year with a Superbowl & Superbowl MVP still #4 ; might be a little hating going on lls
Shannon: "hey look, I've been a player..."
Shannon: I played in this league I been to pro bowls I won superbowls I been in locker rooms i been in showers
Shannon: my grandmother used to say don't matter if don't wanna get wet if u walk into the rain without a umbrella you going to get wet
Orlando Rodriguez You mocking a man more successful than you. Lol
@@TheUnknownBlades just like with trump, but look how many ppl do it. your point is irrelevant
@@orlandorodriguez4908 He misses the showers.
Finally some unbiased content, solid discussion and backing up points well
The question was whose the BEST PLAYER in 2019? not Quarterback
The best player at the most important position (QB) is 8/10 times gonna be number 1. Just how it usually goes
@@brett8202 and there is a reason for that. The position by its nature touches the ball more than any other position except for OC.
Brett nahh the list isn’t who’s the most important player who’s the best. Don’t get important with best. I’m a cowboy fan and dak is more important than Donald or Gilmore but won’t say he’s better
Facts
Mahomes got the chip, super bowl mvp AND a big time payday. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t care about some rinky dink rankings
If they care about madden ratings, they care about this...dont be fooled
Im a Raiders fan and its not even a conversation Patrick Mahomes is best player in league and its not even close
Idk if Skip has seen the All 22 footage for that play, but Mahomes threw that ball early and into space with pretty incredible anticipation and under significant duress. Shannon was right in saying 2 people could complete that throw, Rodgers and Mahomes. That was not a lucky throw at all, it was one of the best throws of the year.
Don't waste your time on commenting about Skip. He is an old man stuck in his ideas.🤣
If they don't make controversy in the rankings, then shows like this won't talk about it all day and keep the NFL trending. Don't fall for it. 😂
Finally someone understand the game TV plays.
You're probably right because last year to rank mahomes at 4 didn't make any sense, in 2018 mahomes threw 50 TDS 5000 yards. That's historical.
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When he goes back to back this year. There's O debate.
He should have gone back to back 18-19. He outplayed Brady in the 18 AFC championship.
Are you kidding me skip did you watch any of the video all they do is talk about the kid because he has the best character to match his play style
Him and Lamar should have switched
The players play with them they obviously feel as though Lamar is amazing they never seen anything like it but imagine when Lamar just keep getting better he only 23
NFL rankings don’t mean anything, with that said Mahomes is better. Period.
Mahomes is very resilient, and has overcome a lot of adversity in his first three years of professional football.. From watching from the sideline is first year, having a historic season the second year, and his third year was all over the place mentally, physically, and emotionally.... And STILL!!!
😂😂😂😂😂 Overcame Adversity?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you serious?
@@triggatrey2715 dead serious... First off, he put a huge amount of pressure on himself, for having a great season in the previous year.. So, the questions about his skills, after sitting behind Alex Smith, was proven... So to come out, have poor games, offensive line not so good, recievers bac and forth healthy, then have the freak accidental injury, he had... Absolutely!!! They were on the verge of damn near not making the playoffs, had he not returned... I've watched him rally on his defense, who was certainly poor the year before, but still had confidence in his team on the other side of the ball... The come bac wins in the playoffs, and Super Bowl??? What do you mean???? Are you crazy, or nuts??? They had a real rollercoaster ride my dude.. So yeah, RESILIENT is the word I used, to describe his commitment to overcoming ADVERSITY... Stop trolling, and rewatch the entire season last year...
If russell wilson had an o line, then he would be the best player in the league
Russ would still be 2nd best, sorry
Naw 2nd best
This is facts. Russ hasn’t had a good o-line since they traded max unger for jimmy graham.
Or WRs or a real OC
Mahomes is stil more talented and the better player
What great talk. Love when its all sports and keeping it real.
Lamar had one of the greatest seasons of any player in any sport. More impressive than any other NFL player in history. The ranking is not about who is the best. The players actually play against each other so that factors in the rankings too. Pat also has a better offense around him so its not all on him like Lamar. Lamar's team failed him where Pat's team saved him.
The Titans shut down Lamar Jackson.
Pat Mahomes shredded the Titans like they weren’t there and broke their will to fight by half time.
All due props to Lamar, he’s spectacular.
Mahomboy is better. He’s better than everyone. Like, look what he did.
Everybodt knoes but Russell Wilson shouldnt be #2 hes overrated and not black...
@@Dnizzle227 not black?? IDIOT ALERT
He had 500 total yards
Titans chiefs was a rematch. That was pat second go at them.
They just wanna give us something to talk about
Love this show but the got to put the call out replays up so we can see wat they are seeing
The best player in the NFL is Russell Wilson. And that's coming from a 49ers fan
Yeah as a Niners fan. Like you’re not biased as he depantsed your team to the world
When russel Wilson cameback like every game of the season all him 😂😂
Lamar can't even get out the first round and he's ranked #1 smh
Its a team sports
@@byronphillips8176 I was typing that until I saw you already got to the point.
Niqqa he was in the divisional round tf as re u talking about this ain't the NBA 😂
Jbird he didn’t win a game and he was a heavy favorite
That’s what I said n they talk bout paying the guy he hands even won 1 playoff game n at home smh 😂😂😂
It appears players don't rate or like Mahomes - can't see why, even as a Lamar fan and a Broncos fan.
Jealousy my friend. Well I'm a Ravens fan and even tho I love Lamar more, I did want Mahomes to be #1, but again I think if not jealousy, then it's because they voted only based on regular season.
@@pranavpanicker1120 I think so - but as Shannon raised (tip toed around why) Mahomes was on a MVP run last year and was still No. 4.
Nobody
Skip : mmmm
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Lol
Skip, tell the truth on that Hill play. They even have it on film Mahomes calling that play, that’s the route. Shannon keep him in check. That’s the play!!! Damn skip.
I’m not shocked because Lamar did break a lot of records and led the team to a nice streak. Clearly Mahomes is the better QB but what Lamar did won him #1
I appreciate Shannon for saying Russell has weapons. Cause Lockett and DK are no joke. Now they got Dorsett, Gordon, and Olsen. That’s some serious firepower
Love you both! But just a question to Shannon : If playoff performance and winning from down under with stellar leadership makes Mahomes better than Jackson (And I agree), how can you justify ranking LeBron James higher than Michael Jordan as a player? (Skip, if you read this then please bring it up next time, LOL)
1. Mahomes
2. Wilson
3. Jackson
4. Donald
Wilson, Mahomes, and then Lamar at #20 or so
alex042687 why would the mvp be 20 what u smoking? I need that 👀
@@alex042687 top 10 not 20, but hes hella overrated
@@BG33917 Cam Newton was also MVP a few years back, and what? I wanna see chicken leg Lamar do it on a consistent level for 4 or 5 years then he can be top 5. My guy Wilson has a track record, the only thing your "MVP" has is a 0-2 playoff record, both losses at HOME
Mahomes, Wilson, then Jackson at 20. There, fix that for you!😀
Skip may say some crazy stuff but he always keep the same energy 😂
I miss these too together
I put Jackson in the top 20 but probably 10 at the absolute highest. This list is a huge popularity contest
The list is seasonal based by players, Lamar literally won mvp!!!!
Mahomes was Lamar two seasons ago, won mvp in his first full season and he got ranked 4th. The fact Lamar is first this year with the exact same scenario (with mahomes winning the SUPER BOWL) is absurd
Reminder :
Lameme is 0-2 against Mahomes
Mahomes in playoffs = 13-2 TD-INT
Lameme in playoffs= 3-3 TD/INT
Lameme...HAHA. I live in Maryland and no one mentions his name.
Reminder: You're cringe
there is a difference between playing against them and watchin them play
I never understood y ppl care so much about these list like they are facts...they just ppls opinion
All the times tom brady was ranked number 1 were in the same sb winning seasons. Never because of stats. That wouldnt make sense if voting goes out in november. Jackson might be more athletic, which is still a big argument, but mahomes is more clutch..
I don’t care what mvp nothing Lamar won he is not better than mahomeboy
Mahomie
Mahoggie
CG25 griffith mahomo
Fact lost to titans in the afc title game
Mahommes had a average season and wasn't that good in the playoffs🤣🤣 He is overrated... Andy Reid should be #1
I'm glad they added the caveat for Seattle lol as a Seahawks fan if I could redraft today I'd still pick Russ
Lamar was mvp this year of course he was gonna be number 1 he led the league in touchdowns and broke the rushing record for a qb why are people shocked he’s number 1 🤦♂️
Mahomes wasn’t #1 the year before with 5k yards and 50 TDs
Heithem Azzain exactly
Heithem Azzain Ik it was stupid that Mahomes didn’t get it last year it was so stupid
@@heithemazzain2373 Cause they wanted to give it to brady duh 🤦🏾♂️
Last year should have been Mahomes, this year should be Lamar for the same reason
I can imagine many players vote for themselves as 1 out of 20, a fun list but imperfect process. Matt Ryan is the most underrated player in the league.
Lamar and Russ are great, but everyone knows Mahomes is #1.
Lamar one MVP no disrespect to Mahomes but Lamar just had a better season
If you watch the NFL video of the top players, it's the players that choose the top players. Some players see players more in the season in their division. If you got someone balling out against you in that year you're going to remember it and put them in your top 10 or top 20. Pat MacAffee game a little breakdown of how it worked when he went to the pro bowl, and had a chance to vote on the top players of that year. I think the pro bowlers votes have more weight to them as far as how the top 10 are ranked.
Russel has to carry the offense with way less talent and mahomes is surrounded by elite talent 🤔
Mahomes makes them elite.
@Bleeding Silence you crazy 😂 they was considered elite when Alex was there
@@streetjustice6504 only Kelce was elite and Kareem Hunt. Tyreek Hill was a punt returning specialist and Sammy Watkins was a bust, Mecole was a 3rd rounder I think
@@streetjustice6504 when did Alex win them a Super Bowl, throw 50 TDs or 5,000 yards?
patrick mahomes, 4 straight afc championship appearances, nuff said, he the greatest of all time, who dey!
People’s forget before Patrick Mahomes nobody care about Kansas City weapons first round exit I’m glad Shannon bring up Alex Smith
Exactly!!!!
RW is the best overall qb most definitely. He wins, most consistently and efficient qb for years. I rarely turns the ball over and has carried a ok offensive team for over 5 years missing the playoffs once. PM and LJ have great o lines and offensive players all around unlike the Hawks. RW all the way.
Proof nfl players are jealous of Mahomes
Straight haters
Like how NBA players used to hate on Steph Curry.
So young and so much success. They hate to see it. I guess to them its almost an insult how easy hes making it seem. Not Mahomes fault though.
16:23 I laughed so hard when Shannon couldn't remember Kareem Hunt's name, lmao
Yea wife/girlfriend beaters and child abusers matter
He's not as much of a football guru as he would have you believe.
Wait did I just hear a national pundit speak positively about Stafford?!?
I don’t know why Stanford doesn’t get any props. He is a helluva QB. It’s not his fault Detroit won’t build up the team around him. Reminds me of Sanders.
Benjamin Valenzuela the ownership and management in Detroit is horrendous. Stafford on another competently run team would be insane. Imagine him on the Patriots, he would be insane on that team.
The SB he played bad but the 9ers were a gooood D. The two playoff games everyone kept dropping easy passes for 3rd down conversions.
Stop dismissing Lamar's great season. We've NEVER seen a qb lead the league in TD passes and have 1200 rushing yards. 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah........ He lost his playoff game though so that has to count, just like his stats, can't have one without the other fam....sorry....
So what excuse are we making for Aaron Donald who didn't make the playoffs at all?
@@brianbacon6719: No excuses for Aaron Donald but his impactt in a league geared toward the QB is far less significant, I believe we both agree on that sir...
Mahomes was the first player in playoff history to have a game with 300 passing yards, 5 passing TD's, and 50 rush yards. Better to be special in the postseason
@@blick5511: that is true...
You need to watch this duo
Its the coolest sports show
Ridiculous that Patrick mahomes is not number 1
😂😂😂
Lamr is better
Truthfully, as a Chiefs fan, I can see players throwing Russ some love based on his longevity. And I can see the defense needing some props, so Aaron Donald makes sense. But Lamar? C'mon, man!
No QB is as good as Patrick Mahomes
Lamar Jackson has great leadership skills and shows humility when the shine gets on him, you gotta respect the guy who carried his team on his back and made them look good. He was the best nfl player who didn’t whine about his team and made the NFL fun to watch.
No QB has ever played at Mahomes level. He is Mr. Clutch.
Tom Brady is Mr clutch. Calm down.
Live And Inspired in what universe?
Brady always had the best coach and a great defense. Mahomes never had either.
Mahomes has a MUCH better arm, is more mobile, and more clutch.
Brady went up against a very good Giants D I. The super bowl and failed. 14 points?
Mahomes went up against a better Niner defense and smoked them.
Brady’s has the best career because Bradshaw got hurt young and Mahomes hasn’t done it yet. Maybe he will, maybe he won’t, but no QB has ever dominated in the clutch like Mahomes
5 playoff games = 5 MVP Level performances.
Jeremy Rice Tom “Cvheater” Brady is clutch
Sergio Blanco Yup. Can’t deflate Brady’s accomplishments.
Cheating aside he was great. He just never played at Mahomes level.
Calm down hahaha dude has amazing weapons on offense and a great offensive minded head coach! He almost turned Donavon Mcnabb into a mvp and Alex smith was really good in his system. Don’t get me wrong the kid is extremely talented but give Aaron Rodgers that team with that coach and watch what he would do!
I pick Russell Wilson over Mahomes that my opinion
So, in your fantasy league you go with Wilson and pass on Mahomes? Riiiigggghhht. LOL
I'd still pick Wilson over Mahomes. And i can understand why Jackson given a high rank cos that kid can nearly do it all! But not better than Mahomes yet!
I get what skip is saying about Aaron Donald, but what’s the difference between AD, Reggie White, and Lawrence Taylor? 2 of them are edge rushers, one of them is a DT. DT is much harder to play than Edge imo and your production goes down a lot when you’re getting double and triple teamed every play. Cowboys O-line is stacked also so of course he won’t have big games against them.
Imagine Russel Wilson as a Chief. Damn scary. So 🤷🏻♂️ who knows.
That would be sick
Calvin Calvin That would of been a Super Bowl.
Imagine russel Wilson on the saints 😉
Calvin Calvin with that run game..... 😳😳😳😳
Funny considering Russ had more weapons on the list than Mahomeboy
Does skip not realize that they called that play on purpose. No one was anywhere near Tyreek to make an interception. It was no punt. That was planned and it worked amazingly. Simple
I don’t agree wit the Alex Smith take. Alex has something like 25 26 touchdowns with those weapons. Give Wilson those weapons he’d be even better than mahomes