One thing I’ve never seen in reviews that I would really love to point out is how much the inconsistency bothered me throughout all the books. Like the characters personalities motives and just everything about them changes in every book and one thing that’s always stuck with me is how (I think it was Tamlin who said that) mates were rare yet Rhys and Feyre are mates and Cassian and Nesta and Lucian and Elain. I just don’t understand why people say she’s an amazing author
you’re totally right!! i have a vid on how i don’t like nesta and im pretty sure i mention the mate thing there. that has ALWAYS bothered me so much!! i think she also mentioned that in tog 🤭
And how SJM is bad at scaling power is SO true. Olay I just got to the part about planks and I gotta say A 30 SECOND PLANK IS NOTHING (or at least for me) What I’m saying is that when Feyre turned into a fae she mentioned she was stronger, faster, more keen (aka powerful) So Nesta must have been the same way right? So how the hell does she struggle with a 30 second plank?😑
i wouldn't mind if she was just a bad author but her characters have no personality,take away their "tragic past and trauma" there's nothing left that's why whenever you point out that SJM can't write good characters her stans always say BUT FEYRE HAS PTSD,she uses very real and serious mental health issues as fcking plot devices and that pisses me off for eg. Kaz from six of crows,his trauma is a part of him, but he's still the smartest, ambitious character,has a very real story and character development
@@honestlysophie sorry if this is long but (do you have a feeling that the publishing house are just ignoring the very triggering and problematic things in her books)
also, the fact that it was supposed to take faeries decades to have children but feyre and vivian (however her name's spelt) are pregnant at the same time. conveniently lazy plot placement. and they could have just shipped nesta to therapy to "heal". sarah loves using the word heal. I find it funny how feyre spends so much time helping her people heal in acofas, and then proceeds to neglect her sister's trauma. sarah made her heroes the villains.
The ACO series just wasn't mine. From illogical plot points to basically nothing happening, bad prose, basic worldbuilding and uncreative boring characters. I didn't expect much to begin with, but even that seemed to be to much. :/
The stripping of Nesta's powers.... I feel like nesta was a better match for Lucien's brother The dancing dude, I can't remember his name cause it's been months since I read this book. But there was chemistry there and I would have loved to see Nesta go to the Autumn Court with all her power and make all of Prythian bow at her feet! Even the dumb high Lord Rhysand.
All I have to say is , thank you. I dont understand good reviews in this book when their is no absolute plot in this book , Nesta is mistreated throught this book and no power was addressed , no help for depression was adressed. NOTHING. this will be the last time I buy a acotar book ever again.
Gosh I don't think I've EVER agreed with someone more. As someone who absoloutely loved, like LOVED the previous books, this was a huge disappointment for me. It had no plot whatsoever, all thr characters are ruined for me and I still have no clue what exactly is Nesta. Liiikeee, come on! The only character I still like after acosf is Azriel. And I just feel like it'd have been better if sjm just ended the series with acowar.
The thing is when I read the scene of Cassian saying " I can hold a plank for 5 minutes " I laughed out loud because guess what Cassian. Your not special I can hold a plank for 5 minutes too and I’m not thousand years old. The brute everybody! The thousand year old brute can only hold a plank for 5 minutes while a mortal human can easily do the same and longer. 🤣
if you’re drunk every single day you will become physically reliant on it regardless of if you’re mentally addicted to alcohol and withdraw can be dangerous so it’s super duper unrealistic that she didn’t try to get more but like you said it could be because they are fae which is stupid
Honestly, what the inner circle did to Nesta is exactly what people do to severe alcoholics (like Nesta) in real life: take that person out of a toxic environment, have them sober up while keeping her busy while they have a chance to restructure their life and learn coping strategies. The only thing that bothered me so much that I wanted to throw my book across the room was the pregnancy. The couple that wanted to wait a couple of centuries. The couple is just beginning to heal from their traumas. The couple, which values safety and consent, got Feyre pregnant in the most absurd, dangerous way possible. Like wtf. That's pure projection. Just because Sarah j Maas is happy with her son, doesn't mean Rhys and Feyre need to have the same life story to be happy.
Nesta was honestly never one of my fav characters. There was a time I had some sympathy for her, but this book made me feel like she’s just horny and unalluring. I also expected better from Rhys and Feyre.
I looked i up, the first Sucessfull C section was in 1797!!!! 1797!! the Fae have prociline toilets and magic, they have NO excuse for women to not survive C-sections.
No seriously. They’re acting like it’s a flex. Out of all the amazing female characters out there who have trauma…you’re willingly choosing Nesta? Miss Nesta who abuses her own god damn sister? Look at Aelin from ToG. She has been through worse, yet never once treated the people who love and cared for her like shit. I’m saying this because Nesta’s trauma is never and excuse for how she treat others. Yet people make it seem like it is. And if you’re relating to Nesta…maybe that’s the reason why no one likes you 😬
The first four books (the novella included) were silly and illogical but it was a guilty pleasure read. But this book was awful. I hated how people in the fandom blindly defended Nesta’s behaviour under the veil of “trauma” even though EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM has more trauma than her. There was no plot and all the characters were assassinated for the sake of a poorly-written Nesta redemption story. The book felt like SJM was writing fan fiction. My entire good reads review of this book was a rant on why I hate Nesta and the book. Honestly, it was a painful read.
Thank you I couldn’t stand nesta especially in book 3 I did have some sympathy there for her but when she literally threatened to kill her own sister in front of everyone and pretty much dotes on Elain and doesn’t give a shit about feyre. Seriously if it was feyre I would’ve gotten up from that table and smacked her across the floor sister or not.
@Playlistmastermind I completely agree with you everyone suffered from trauma more than her like mor, rhys, feyre, cassian, azriel but they didn't act like a bitch all times
im coming in 2023. i just read 2 chapters and im boiling. I hate nesta so much. Her throwing away people who love her but complaining at the same time about people throwing her away, not loving her, not caring her. And when she said that "all the time its about nesta and elain, but now its about feyre and elain" something like that, me be like : im sorry sist, you're the one who said to Elain to fuck off. OMG i can not stand it anymore, should i continue or just throw the book away like nesta did to people who love her?
Exactly!! Nesta did not want to be helped. All she did was make her situation worse. By letting her make her own decisions which was to drink and f*ck the trauma away the inner circle realized they had to intervene and make a decision for her. Yes they handled it horribly but what were they supposed to do? Get her a therapist? Like Nesta would even sit to have one therapy session 🙄. Nesta is a character I cannot stand and I thought this book would change my opinion on her but now I could care less about her. Whether she lives or dies idgaf
NO BECAUSE WHEN SHE WAS SCRYING AND HE SAID SHE WAS LIMP/WASNT MOVING HER LIPS AND TONGUE WHEN HE WAS KISSING HER MOUTH I WAS DISGUSTING BY THE ADDED DETAILS OF HIM JUST EXPLORING. LIKE NO THANK YOU SJM WHAT WAS THAT. 😵💫
His pp being big tho just further makes me think Rhys is the smallest lmao, that’s also probs why he’s always so salty. In feyras chapter she called Rhys “considerable” and nesta calling cas “enormous” twice with two sentences which had me laughing so damn hard.
I still like Feyre. Nesta abused Feyre her whole life but Feyre still loved her and wanted to help her. Everything Feyre did was for Nesta and out of genuine love and concern for her. Nesta on the other hand…an abusive bitch who blamed Feyre for every bad thing she did. And I’m gonna be honest, Nesta doesn’t deserve Gwyn or Emerie, bc she’s so willing to treat them way better than she treats Feyre. She gave Feyre hell for finding the IC and loving them like family, when she literally had Gwyn and Emerie.
I’m sorry but while I did have some sympathy for nesta I just couldn’t stand especially in book 3 when she talked and threatened to literally kill her own sister if I was feyre I would’ve walked up to and smacked her and told her to f herself sister or not. This book just cemented that everyone was trying to be patient with her especially armen and feyre. I hated her honestly I don’t see the appeal about her as a character yeah she gets some growth but other then that it’s nothing major.
I like this Book so much, it's my favourite of the whole series, but I understand what you say, but yet I love it! Was fun, listening to you, thanks for that ;)
So I have never read this series but, my wife loves the first 3 books. But, it seems the new books coming out just don't seem to have what the first three have.
Nesta is the victim. Like half the time when people are calling her bitch it's actually for something they either: would applaud as badass if Feyre/Rhysand did it, or just straight up didn't happen. Just bc her trauma isn't pretty so many people hate on her. Seeing people justifying the actions/words of inner circle makes me loose faith in humanity. No empathy. Those are the same people who probably think homeless people/drug users did it to themselfs and don't deserve to be helped. SJM's brainwashed people into thinkingthe inner circle (and feysand especially) is the best, while they all are the most obnoxious, evil people I've ever read about. Tamlin is a saint compared to them. They did to Nesta what Tamlin did to Feyre, but this time it's worse bc it comes from her family, her blood. If Rhysand showed up in acomaf and treated Feyre's trauma this way, what would they think? Hating her just stinks like internalized misogyny. People just swallow whatever SJM/Feyre says without thinking too much about it, bc they are horny for the bat guys. In SJM's world, every trauma can be cured by sex. It's disgusting and she should not be writing about "deep stuff" if she knows nothing. She did her character so dirty. She stripped Nesta of her power bc poor baby Rhysand was feeling threatened. At this point, it's so clear that Feyre is Sarah, Rhysand is her husband and their child is SJM's child. The moment she had a child she added it to the series too. There is so much wrong with this book/series. Talk about lost potential. Like Feyre and Nesta changing their bodies into a different species/ethnicity? Excuse me what.
“hEr tRaUmA iSnt pRetTy” = character was an abusive parasite towards everyone around her (except for her other useless sister) for en entire series for no reason. Also it’s so gross of you to try to make it into something so ugly as “internalized misogyny.” Reaching sooo hard. You’re a joke lady.
@@alicedeligny9240 i understand that a lot of people will not like Nesta, this is just my opinion. but i also question the decision to bring Feyre's sisters into the story and make them Fae. it was obviously not planned out, and i would prefer if she did not do that. or at least make Elain mates with Tamlin or something to spice things up, idk.
@@novembermedusa It's really obvious that despite Feyre being at the front of the fight for humans in the books, Maas really couldn't care less about the human side of her universe. And like, being a fae really is synonymous with being an immortal, there's that.
I think one of the sisters should have died in ACOWAR. Sarah would never kill Feyre and I like Nesta so I would have killed Elaine. I don’t care anything about her character and I doubt making her mates to Lucien (someone I also don’t really care about, but slightly more than Elaine) will change that. I like Nesta because she’s a hot mess and not a “perfect” character. Sarah writes Feyre/Rhys like “perfect” characters when they are both far from it. The audience is supposed to pretend they aren’t. Feyre reminds me of Elaina Gilbert in the Vampire Diaries. If you kno you kno 😂
Okay, but like if you save your sister's and nephew's life, then yeah, you and your brother-in-law are probably going to have some happy feelings toward each other. That wasn't weird. Also, Nesta didn't want Elain to search for the deathly hallows (lol) bc she still loves her sister. You can fight with a sibling but want to protect them.
yes!! i agree. but the whole „rhys my brother“ thing happens as she’s saving the baby, so i just felt that it came very sudden and out of nowhere - just like all of nestas actions in the book. i just wish there had been a more steady progress instead of her going on a miracle hike and just becoming a whole new person from one moment to the next :(
The next book in The series is going to really tell me Sarah’s direct with these books I think, Atleast as far as the relationships go. I hope she doesn’t make everyone “one big happy family” or make Nesta completely over her issues and nice to everyone or something like that. I’m not sure I’m going to read anything after silver flames because I’m afraid that’s what Sarah is going to do.
12:36 BAHAHAHAHA I LOST IT at the UGA UGA💀💀 new subscriber right there But yeah, agree with everything, I love your ranting, this is my new comfort video lol
bro als du plötzlich deutsch gesprochen hast. so ich dachte mir schon dass du deutsche bist weil ich denselben akzent habe, aber das war schon jarring lmfao. und ich stimme dir bei allem zu.
I'm super late to the game, but THANK YOU for this video. Just finished the book and i'm BEYOND dissappointed, completely agree with everything you said. I don't have any RL friends that read this kinda thing, so really needed to hear someone that shares my opinion on this book, lmao. I am convinced SJM wrote Nesta with Borderline Personality Disorder in mind, it explains close to all of her batshit behaviour in this book. It doesn't make her any more likable though, just an observation.
GIRL FINALLY someone who has something relevant to say I just couldn’t with this book… I liked the first and second BUT EVEN FROM THE VERY START i just loathed Nesta She’s such a bad character…it’s just so annoying the way everyone marvels over her at the begging…Nesta this Nesta that you’re so powerful you’re Cauldron blessed you’re MVP ok boi Then i absolutely expected to arrive in Velaris and be put into her place by ANYONE-Mor,Amren,Azriel,Rhys,but no,they just fed into this shitty raised 12 years old boy with hormonal issues who just can’t behave like a human being for once trope☠️ I just cannot forget the way Amren said sth like “okay boss bitch” in the third book when Nesta just acted DESPICABLY Maas just creates an idiotic character(good Lord,her family was fucking starving and she woudnt even bother to cut some wood,let alone hunt or do something for her FAMILY) and paints an unrealistic image for young readers-that surely if you behave like a fucking wild animal and an idiotic bad behaved moody “queen” you’ll get your calm,tempered extremely good looking man to heal you and your immense amount of trauma From the very first book,from exactly that paragraph with the wood i just HOPED i would never get to see her again… I salute you girl,and the ones in the comms,for saying the thing everyone wanted to say!!
Rip meine Gehirnzellen...Wie hast du es überhaupt geschafft, die ganze Reihe zu lesen? Ich konnte kaum die Hälfte des zweiten Buches zu Ende lesen....Wieso hat dieses "Buch" fast 5 Sterne auf Goodreads wtffff 😭😷I loved your dragging though. I'm going through reviews dragging sjm as form of healing. ❤️️
Me just reading the books for the sex scenes👀. I read the throne of glass series and I loved them and thought ' oh well the rest of this author's books must be good too'. Oh how wrong I was...
We can't excuse someone behavior for her mental trauma then we also have to agree that psychos killing people is just their mental state we can't do anything about it. In nesta character she is a bitch but people are justifying her behavior with her trauma by playing a victim card. Mor suffered so much than nesta, cassian did, rhys did, feyre did but they don't act like a bitch always. And about the whole feyre pregnancy thing when nesta tells about feyre is not bcz she loves her or cares for her if she did she would have told feyre when she knew about it. She used that sensitive information to win a argument over feyre i really hated her for that. And about feyre pregnancy issue mor, rhys, cassian, azriel, amren all knew it but they didn't tell her bcz they don't want to ruin her happeniess and plan to tell her when the timing was right . But nesta ruined it.
Rhys was an asshole in this book because of the pregnancy!!! I hate how everyone is missing the point!! It was mentioned in chapter 21 that he's been a "moody bastard" .... apparently it's something that happens to high fae males when their mates are pregnant. And at the end of the book when it's mentioned that rhys was shaken up after the birth I think it was going to be a turning point for him. We don't know what was happening in his mind when he did those things because the books wasn't in his POV. And finally Rhys hatered of nesta stems from how she generally treats feyre. And given feyres pregnant his overprotectiveness is amplified.
Me just reading the books for the sex scenes👀. I read the throne of glass series and I loved them and thought ' oh well the rest of this author's books must be good too'. Oh how wrong I was...
sjm writes women the way men write women and y'all know exactly what I mean
Exactly
Don't worry! She's also bad at writing men.
@@elizimmer3838 yup 👍
@@gigijanae1460 her books are getting worse and worse
yes yes yes
One thing I’ve never seen in reviews that I would really love to point out is how much the inconsistency bothered me throughout all the books. Like the characters personalities motives and just everything about them changes in every book and one thing that’s always stuck with me is how (I think it was Tamlin who said that) mates were rare yet Rhys and Feyre are mates and Cassian and Nesta and Lucian and Elain. I just don’t understand why people say she’s an amazing author
you’re totally right!! i have a vid on how i don’t like nesta and im pretty sure i mention the mate thing there. that has ALWAYS bothered me so much!! i think she also mentioned that in tog 🤭
And how SJM is bad at scaling power is SO true.
Olay I just got to the part about planks and I gotta say A 30 SECOND PLANK IS NOTHING (or at least for me)
What I’m saying is that when Feyre turned into a fae she mentioned she was stronger, faster, more keen (aka powerful)
So Nesta must have been the same way right? So how the hell does she struggle with a 30 second plank?😑
i wouldn't mind if she was just a bad author but her characters have no personality,take away their "tragic past and trauma" there's nothing left that's why whenever you point out that SJM can't write good characters her stans always say BUT FEYRE HAS PTSD,she uses very real and serious mental health issues as fcking plot devices and that pisses me off
for eg. Kaz from six of crows,his trauma is a part of him, but he's still the smartest, ambitious character,has a very real story and character development
@@alegonzalez2879 Hey. I'm fat as a hippo, but if you give me a few beers, I can do a 2 minute plank.
@@honestlysophie sorry if this is long but (do you have a feeling that the publishing house are just ignoring the very triggering and problematic things in her books)
I have to come to RUclips for ACO rants because the fandom is scary and aren’t very tolerant of questions and opinions
Yeah,the SJM fandom are so insane.
My friends are obsessed and I loved the first three and then just hit a wall with how horrible this book is. And they’re upset with me!! It’s AWFUL
It's basically the next Twilight
also, the fact that it was supposed to take faeries decades to have children but feyre and vivian (however her name's spelt) are pregnant at the same time. conveniently lazy plot placement. and they could have just shipped nesta to therapy to "heal". sarah loves using the word heal. I find it funny how feyre spends so much time helping her people heal in acofas, and then proceeds to neglect her sister's trauma. sarah made her heroes the villains.
FOR REAL OMFGG
The ACO series just wasn't mine.
From illogical plot points to basically nothing happening, bad prose, basic worldbuilding and uncreative boring characters.
I didn't expect much to begin with, but even that seemed to be to much. :/
*too
The stripping of Nesta's powers.... I feel like nesta was a better match for Lucien's brother The dancing dude, I can't remember his name cause it's been months since I read this book. But there was chemistry there and I would have loved to see Nesta go to the Autumn Court with all her power and make all of Prythian bow at her feet! Even the dumb high Lord Rhysand.
It's the only truly romantic thing in the whole romance book
All I have to say is , thank you. I dont understand good reviews in this book when their is no absolute plot in this book , Nesta is mistreated throught this book and no power was addressed , no help for depression was adressed. NOTHING. this will be the last time I buy a acotar book ever again.
Honestly, as someone who had Nesta as a fav, everything you said about this book was true.
she was the only character to me who was somewhat interesting and SJM could've gone in depth with her,instead we got this
Gosh I don't think I've EVER agreed with someone more. As someone who absoloutely loved, like LOVED the previous books, this was a huge disappointment for me. It had no plot whatsoever, all thr characters are ruined for me and I still have no clue what exactly is Nesta. Liiikeee, come on! The only character I still like after acosf is Azriel. And I just feel like it'd have been better if sjm just ended the series with acowar.
The thing is when I read the scene of Cassian saying " I can hold a plank for 5 minutes "
I laughed out loud because guess what Cassian. Your not special I can hold a plank for 5 minutes too and I’m not thousand years old. The brute everybody! The thousand year old brute can only hold a plank for 5 minutes while a mortal human can easily do the same and longer. 🤣
if you’re drunk every single day you will become physically reliant on it regardless of if you’re mentally addicted to alcohol and withdraw can be dangerous so it’s super duper unrealistic that she didn’t try to get more but like you said it could be because they are fae which is stupid
Honestly, what the inner circle did to Nesta is exactly what people do to severe alcoholics (like Nesta) in real life: take that person out of a toxic environment, have them sober up while keeping her busy while they have a chance to restructure their life and learn coping strategies.
The only thing that bothered me so much that I wanted to throw my book across the room was the pregnancy. The couple that wanted to wait a couple of centuries. The couple is just beginning to heal from their traumas. The couple, which values safety and consent, got Feyre pregnant in the most absurd, dangerous way possible. Like wtf. That's pure projection. Just because Sarah j Maas is happy with her son, doesn't mean Rhys and Feyre need to have the same life story to be happy.
Exactly! Why is the only way a couple can be “happy” is to get married and/or have a kid. Ruins books for me.
literally yes, yes and YES to all of this! the entire ACO series is one big fever dream.. also incredibly video omg
awww tysm hahah
Nesta was honestly never one of my fav characters. There was a time I had some sympathy for her, but this book made me feel like she’s just horny and unalluring. I also expected better from Rhys and Feyre.
Just in case anyone was wondering if these books are still being marketed to children, my little sister read the Frost and Starlight one at 13
There are people out there saying they relate to Nesta... and I'm like.. y'all need therapy.
I looked i up, the first Sucessfull C section was in 1797!!!! 1797!! the Fae have prociline toilets and magic, they have NO excuse for women to not survive C-sections.
Me too girl. Me too.
No seriously. They’re acting like it’s a flex. Out of all the amazing female characters out there who have trauma…you’re willingly choosing Nesta? Miss Nesta who abuses her own god damn sister? Look at Aelin from ToG. She has been through worse, yet never once treated the people who love and cared for her like shit. I’m saying this because Nesta’s trauma is never and excuse for how she treat others. Yet people make it seem like it is. And if you’re relating to Nesta…maybe that’s the reason why no one likes you 😬
HELP ME
The first four books (the novella included) were silly and illogical but it was a guilty pleasure read. But this book was awful. I hated how people in the fandom blindly defended Nesta’s behaviour under the veil of “trauma” even though EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM has more trauma than her. There was no plot and all the characters were assassinated for the sake of a poorly-written Nesta redemption story. The book felt like SJM was writing fan fiction. My entire good reads review of this book was a rant on why I hate Nesta and the book. Honestly, it was a painful read.
Thank you I couldn’t stand nesta especially in book 3 I did have some sympathy there for her but when she literally threatened to kill her own sister in front of everyone and pretty much dotes on Elain and doesn’t give a shit about feyre. Seriously if it was feyre I would’ve gotten up from that table and smacked her across the floor sister or not.
The other characters also did way more bad things than her, so... Some of them are literal mass murderers.
@Playlistmastermind I completely agree with you everyone suffered from trauma more than her like mor, rhys, feyre, cassian, azriel but they didn't act like a bitch all times
im coming in 2023. i just read 2 chapters and im boiling. I hate nesta so much. Her throwing away people who love her but complaining at the same time about people throwing her away, not loving her, not caring her. And when she said that "all the time its about nesta and elain, but now its about feyre and elain" something like that, me be like : im sorry sist, you're the one who said to Elain to fuck off. OMG i can not stand it anymore, should i continue or just throw the book away like nesta did to people who love her?
Exactly!! Nesta did not want to be helped. All she did was make her situation worse. By letting her make her own decisions which was to drink and f*ck the trauma away the inner circle realized they had to intervene and make a decision for her. Yes they handled it horribly but what were they supposed to do? Get her a therapist? Like Nesta would even sit to have one therapy session 🙄. Nesta is a character I cannot stand and I thought this book would change my opinion on her but now I could care less about her. Whether she lives or dies idgaf
Yes, they should have got her a therapist.
@@dungly1528 they can’t even do C sections and u think they have therapist lmao
NO BECAUSE WHEN SHE WAS SCRYING AND HE SAID SHE WAS LIMP/WASNT MOVING HER LIPS AND TONGUE WHEN HE WAS KISSING HER MOUTH I WAS DISGUSTING BY THE ADDED DETAILS OF HIM JUST EXPLORING. LIKE NO THANK YOU SJM WHAT WAS THAT. 😵💫
His pp being big tho just further makes me think Rhys is the smallest lmao, that’s also probs why he’s always so salty. In feyras chapter she called Rhys “considerable” and nesta calling cas “enormous” twice with two sentences which had me laughing so damn hard.
Also nesta wanting a three way with az and cas was way too funny. Like for what sjm 😂😂😭
I just finished it and it was the worst book with the worst writing and the worst characters and the worst smut and so problematic
13:14 I personally think this cliché could have a mystery aspect to it for future books, great video as always though!
I never liked Nesta. This book solidified that.
I still like Feyre. Nesta abused Feyre her whole life but Feyre still loved her and wanted to help her. Everything Feyre did was for Nesta and out of genuine love and concern for her. Nesta on the other hand…an abusive bitch who blamed Feyre for every bad thing she did. And I’m gonna be honest, Nesta doesn’t deserve Gwyn or Emerie, bc she’s so willing to treat them way better than she treats Feyre. She gave Feyre hell for finding the IC and loving them like family, when she literally had Gwyn and Emerie.
I’m sorry but while I did have some sympathy for nesta I just couldn’t stand especially in book 3 when she talked and threatened to literally kill her own sister if I was feyre I would’ve walked up to and smacked her and told her to f herself sister or not. This book just cemented that everyone was trying to be patient with her especially armen and feyre. I hated her honestly I don’t see the appeal about her as a character yeah she gets some growth but other then that it’s nothing major.
Everytime i think about this book I cry. Truly no one and I mean NO ONE was done justice
Finally a review I agree with it
I like this Book so much, it's my favourite of the whole series, but I understand what you say, but yet I love it! Was fun, listening to you, thanks for that ;)
So I have never read this series but, my wife loves the first 3 books. But, it seems the new books coming out just don't seem to have what the first three have.
Nesta is the victim.
Like half the time when people are calling her bitch it's actually for something they either: would applaud as badass if Feyre/Rhysand did it, or just straight up didn't happen. Just bc her trauma isn't pretty so many people hate on her. Seeing people justifying the actions/words of inner circle makes me loose faith in humanity. No empathy. Those are the same people who probably think homeless people/drug users did it to themselfs and don't deserve to be helped. SJM's brainwashed people into thinkingthe inner circle (and feysand especially) is the best, while they all are the most obnoxious, evil people I've ever read about. Tamlin is a saint compared to them. They did to Nesta what Tamlin did to Feyre, but this time it's worse bc it comes from her family, her blood.
If Rhysand showed up in acomaf and treated Feyre's trauma this way, what would they think?
Hating her just stinks like internalized misogyny.
People just swallow whatever SJM/Feyre says without thinking too much about it, bc they are horny for the bat guys. In SJM's world, every trauma can be cured by sex. It's disgusting and she should not be writing about "deep stuff" if she knows nothing. She did her character so dirty. She stripped Nesta of her power bc poor baby Rhysand was feeling threatened.
At this point, it's so clear that Feyre is Sarah, Rhysand is her husband and their child is SJM's child. The moment she had a child she added it to the series too.
There is so much wrong with this book/series. Talk about lost potential. Like Feyre and Nesta changing their bodies into a different species/ethnicity? Excuse me what.
“hEr tRaUmA iSnt pRetTy” = character was an abusive parasite towards everyone around her (except for her other useless sister) for en entire series for no reason. Also it’s so gross of you to try to make it into something so ugly as “internalized misogyny.” Reaching sooo hard. You’re a joke lady.
I don't get why people like Nesta. I don't get why Maas needed Feyre's sisters to also join her in Prythian and become fae.
@@alicedeligny9240 i understand that a lot of people will not like Nesta, this is just my opinion. but i also question the decision to bring Feyre's sisters into the story and make them Fae. it was obviously not planned out, and i would prefer if she did not do that. or at least make Elain mates with Tamlin or something to spice things up, idk.
@@novembermedusa It's really obvious that despite Feyre being at the front of the fight for humans in the books, Maas really couldn't care less about the human side of her universe. And like, being a fae really is synonymous with being an immortal, there's that.
I think one of the sisters should have died in ACOWAR. Sarah would never kill Feyre and I like Nesta so I would have killed Elaine. I don’t care anything about her character and I doubt making her mates to Lucien (someone I also don’t really care about, but slightly more than Elaine) will change that.
I like Nesta because she’s a hot mess and not a “perfect” character. Sarah writes Feyre/Rhys like “perfect” characters when they are both far from it. The audience is supposed to pretend they aren’t. Feyre reminds me of Elaina Gilbert in the Vampire Diaries. If you kno you kno 😂
Lmao I could hold a plank for over 4 minutes *when I was 10*.
You said all my thoughts on this book so perfectly i really hate this book. Your reviews are great honestly they make me laugh too
Okay, but like if you save your sister's and nephew's life, then yeah, you and your brother-in-law are probably going to have some happy feelings toward each other. That wasn't weird. Also, Nesta didn't want Elain to search for the deathly hallows (lol) bc she still loves her sister. You can fight with a sibling but want to protect them.
yes!! i agree. but the whole „rhys my brother“ thing happens as she’s saving the baby, so i just felt that it came very sudden and out of nowhere - just like all of nestas actions in the book. i just wish there had been a more steady progress instead of her going on a miracle hike and just becoming a whole new person from one moment to the next :(
@@honestlysophie Thank for taking the time to answer me! I totally get your POV. The pacing was OFF
The next book in The series is going to really tell me Sarah’s direct with these books I think, Atleast as far as the relationships go. I hope she doesn’t make everyone “one big happy family” or make Nesta completely over her issues and nice to everyone or something like that. I’m not sure I’m going to read anything after silver flames because I’m afraid that’s what Sarah is going to do.
12:36 BAHAHAHAHA I LOST IT at the UGA UGA💀💀 new subscriber right there
But yeah, agree with everything, I love your ranting, this is my new comfort video lol
bro als du plötzlich deutsch gesprochen hast. so ich dachte mir schon dass du deutsche bist weil ich denselben akzent habe, aber das war schon jarring lmfao. und ich stimme dir bei allem zu.
Now girl where the hell you been @, i waited for this video and gave up. thought you gave up on reading it altogether.
I’m like a third of a way through and having so much of the settings being in the SA victims library just isn’t the vibe?
I'm super late to the game, but THANK YOU for this video. Just finished the book and i'm BEYOND dissappointed, completely agree with everything you said. I don't have any RL friends that read this kinda thing, so really needed to hear someone that shares my opinion on this book, lmao.
I am convinced SJM wrote Nesta with Borderline Personality Disorder in mind, it explains close to all of her batshit behaviour in this book. It doesn't make her any more likable though, just an observation.
YOU ARE MY GODDES OMGG. I thought the same of almost every aspect of this book. WHY AM I HATING RHYS ? WHY I WANT TO KILL FEYRE.
GIRL FINALLY someone who has something relevant to say
I just couldn’t with this book…
I liked the first and second BUT EVEN FROM THE VERY START i just loathed Nesta
She’s such a bad character…it’s just so annoying the way everyone marvels over her at the begging…Nesta this Nesta that you’re so powerful you’re Cauldron blessed you’re MVP ok boi
Then i absolutely expected to arrive in Velaris and be put into her place by ANYONE-Mor,Amren,Azriel,Rhys,but no,they just fed into this shitty raised 12 years old boy with hormonal issues who just can’t behave like a human being for once trope☠️
I just cannot forget the way Amren said sth like “okay boss bitch” in the third book when Nesta just acted DESPICABLY
Maas just creates an idiotic character(good Lord,her family was fucking starving and she woudnt even bother to cut some wood,let alone hunt or do something for her FAMILY) and paints an unrealistic image for young readers-that surely if you behave like a fucking wild animal and an idiotic bad behaved moody “queen” you’ll get your calm,tempered extremely good looking man to heal you and your immense amount of trauma
From the very first book,from exactly that paragraph with the wood i just HOPED i would never get to see her again…
I salute you girl,and the ones in the comms,for saying the thing everyone wanted to say!!
can u link ur goodreads?!
www.goodreads.com/user/show/47366433-soph here u go! literally just updated it because u reminded me, i always forget about it haha
@@honestlysophie thank youuuu
I love you so much!! I had the exact same feelings!! haha
Rip meine Gehirnzellen...Wie hast du es überhaupt geschafft, die ganze Reihe zu lesen? Ich konnte kaum die Hälfte des zweiten Buches zu Ende lesen....Wieso hat dieses "Buch" fast 5 Sterne auf Goodreads wtffff 😭😷I loved your dragging though. I'm going through reviews dragging sjm as form of healing. ❤️️
Your review cracked me up.
Me just reading the books for the sex scenes👀. I read the throne of glass series and I loved them and thought ' oh well the rest of this author's books must be good too'. Oh how wrong I was...
We can't excuse someone behavior for her mental trauma then we also have to agree that psychos killing people is just their mental state we can't do anything about it. In nesta character she is a bitch but people are justifying her behavior with her trauma by playing a victim card. Mor suffered so much than nesta, cassian did, rhys did, feyre did but they don't act like a bitch always. And about the whole feyre pregnancy thing when nesta tells about feyre is not bcz she loves her or cares for her if she did she would have told feyre when she knew about it. She used that sensitive information to win a argument over feyre i really hated her for that. And about feyre pregnancy issue mor, rhys, cassian, azriel, amren all knew it but they didn't tell her bcz they don't want to ruin her happeniess and plan to tell her when the timing was right . But nesta ruined it.
This is so good! You’re gonna go far!
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hhahaha ich war so geschockt als du auf einmal angefangen hast deutsch zu reden
Finally someone with the same views as me. New sub btw
Rhys was an asshole in this book because of the pregnancy!!! I hate how everyone is missing the point!! It was mentioned in chapter 21 that he's been a "moody bastard" .... apparently it's something that happens to high fae males when their mates are pregnant.
And at the end of the book when it's mentioned that rhys was shaken up after the birth I think it was going to be a turning point for him. We don't know what was happening in his mind when he did those things because the books wasn't in his POV.
And finally Rhys hatered of nesta stems from how she generally treats feyre. And given feyres pregnant his overprotectiveness is amplified.
war so schockiert als du angefangen hast deutsch zu reden
Me just reading the books for the sex scenes👀. I read the throne of glass series and I loved them and thought ' oh well the rest of this author's books must be good too'. Oh how wrong I was...
What about porn...?