The fact that Zeus admits he's not the perfect king of the gods is so damn refreshing to hear from him and yet they removed it and replaced it with whatever the hell we got
@@crsbcn007 Well people keep saying that. Yes, he did horrible things in mythology, but he was also incredibly powerful, and a wise general. He defeated Cronus and freed all the other Gods, who then went on to defeat the Titans.
havent seen this crap of a movie, but, how is it possible that this horrendous goofy scene is better than a whole film put up for the masses to watch? LOL amazing
Yes, it would've made more sense than him suddenly being able to do that for no reason. Which bring the question why didn't he do that before? Wouldn't this ability be useful in like every Avengers movie?
This would have made so much more sense. All they had to do was make Hercules jealous of Zeus mentoring Thor to motivate him to pick a fight for the next movie.
Nope. It doesn't fit in the movie at all, especially since Thor believed he killed Zeus and Zeus has absolutely no interest in borrowing his powers/secret weapon to someone else.
The fact that this scene was replaced by that fight scene in the movie just boggles my mind. This explains why the thunderbolt was important to the plot -- it would actually take them to Gorr. In the movie, they're just like "Thunderbolt is strong so let us borrow it". Also, this movie desperately needed more quiet, dramatic scenes like this, rather than the overabundance of messy CGI fights that we got.
@@rebelfriend1818 All directors hired by major studios will say that, yet that's absolutely not true If that was the case then there would have been no screen tests, which are never done by the director but the studio that wants to adecuate the movie to a larger audience
@@ReaperFrostTaika is a director where the put a lost trust in like James Gunn and Coogler. This was him. Not all of it is the studios fault. Nowadays it is.
@@caylya7869 Negative. If it was him, why make the deleted scene at all? The scene was made and the studio hated it. Wise Zeus would ruin the next movie.
"Power is everywhere." Hmm, this line would have tied in well with the captured Asgardian children. If power is everywhere, then power is in them too. Give them the spark, and they can use it.
@@longebane well Odin and Zeus are pretty much the same in the comics though. Both are serious and stoic and both of them are friends in the comic. Could even say that they are brothers (not by blood). Comic Zeus was actually really nice to thor and he became another father to him after odins death.
@@longebane He can be both, its not hard to be Vapid and Vain, but still be knowledgeable. Especially when you are as old as he is, that personality can just be a front so people don't approach him the way Thor did.
Hercules is mandated by Zeus to ho after Thor... and teaching him how to use a bolt wouldn't be enough reasons to fight someone. Y'all are as bad and basic writers as Taika 😂
this scene is what we need in the movie. its feel sad and enlighting at the same time, give Thor some hope after he lost everyone, especially his father - Odin. Zeus as Thor's father figure will make soooo much interesting. wtf disney
This scene changes half the movie and the ending credit. It makes me wonder if there was a fight going on behind the scenes between the Studio and Director/ Writers. And it got so far that it was filmed and had effects added. Makes me want to see the original script because this is a FACINATING change.
This is what's called 'post-viz,' they put stand-in CG into the already shot scene before they send the shot to a VFX house, so they know how they want it to look
Why did they turn Zeus along with all the other gods into jokes? All it did was validate Gorrs goal and reasoning that the gods are useless baffoons who exploit the people and are better off dead.
@@Daewonnni (people have always complained about unrelated and paper thin villains, now you’re getting ones with depth and you complain that the focus is being put on them)
Dude, gods are just aliens, and some of them took advantage of the fact that the weaker races look up to them for their powers, just like normal people. Watch the first Thor movie again. Odin literally says "We are not gods."
@@FinalStigma yeah but he was talking about norse gods. it appears at least some gods, namely egyptian and wakandan gods, are real, as they both have a unique afterlife. it also seems valhalla is real in the mcu so there is a norse afterlife even if the gods arent real gods.
@@owensanfordstuff what are you even trying to say dude... this is a valid criticism, apparently they didnt even have a direction to go with, its not that the actual lines are not 100% done, thats fine they can make up thngs based on the script, bur even the script was not known when they were filming if they also shot scenes where characters behave completely different.
0:58 this moment reminds me of a father showing his son how to cast a fishing pole or ride a bike. Zeus backing away has Thor begins to understand thunderbolt was like a father watching his son ride off on the bike or pulling back a fish for the first time. Just very sad that they didn't include this in the movie.
Depends on how one defines pure. Purely what? Gorr started off purer than any of them. The sword twisted him in his grief towards darkness, but he remained pure in his focus, in his dedication. He was not corrupted by pleasures. He did not succumb to temptations.
The movie Zeus attitude shoulda gone to Hercules, and Zeus be more like shown here. It would parallel the first Thor we saw, and Zeus ignoring the signs til his son goes too far so publicly (sound familiar). It would give herc a personally reason to hate Thor like the end credits, but now you aren't forced to have Zeus on his son's side per se. You can go either way, leave him out of it, etc.
According to mythology Zeus is known for being wise, fair, just, merciful and prudent this scene fits Zeus character so much better than what we got in the film
Zeus is anything BUT fair, just and merciful in Greek Mythology. If anything, the movie version is much closer to the mythological Zeus than a lot of versions. Though in all fairness, Zeus could be just and fair at times. Doesn't change the fact this scene is several galaxies better than the weakling we had.
This Zeus is better than a one note joke and this Thor feels like the old Thor from the first 2 movies… that scene with the hammer was too silly even for this film.
Like everyone else here says, we should've had this Zeus. Have him teach Thor to open his heart to explain how he was able to power the kids. And if they wanted to have the Hercules anti-hero story, they could've had Gorr kill Zeus and have Hercules believe it to be Thor. Zeus should've visited Thor with his wound after the Omnipotence City scene and have a heart to heart about his flaws, the needs of the people and its consequences such as Gorr's attacks and Thor's attack on Zeus and finishing it off with the open your heart lesson. That way, Gorr killing Zeus would be really meaningful and Hercules could be somehow made to believe that Thor killed his father in Omnipotence City.
You know what could've worked? Just when thor asks for the lightning, then after zeus said no he should said : "Just kidding, meet me [insert location] after this." That could've worked better
Ah so that's where that Exclusive Look shot was from! But I'm confused. While this scene answers how Thor understood how Thunderbolts work, the more intriguing question is how is Zeus chill with him after Thor attacked and humiliated him recently? And not just that, they got so close that Zeus shared a secret witn Thor which he didn't even tell any of his sons?
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The fact that Zeus admits he's not the perfect king of the gods is so damn refreshing to hear from him and yet they removed it and replaced it with whatever the hell we got
this version of Zeus also made him look very strong and reliable compared to weak final version of him.
At the same time they kept the horrendously irreverent side to him that was true to mythology. They missed out
Yeah.
Just compare thor's zeus to snyder cut's zeus its day and night
@@crsbcn007 Well people keep saying that. Yes, he did horrible things in mythology, but he was also incredibly powerful, and a wise general. He defeated Cronus and freed all the other Gods, who then went on to defeat the Titans.
His final version isn't "weak". He's actually mythologically accurate.
This Zeus is infinitly better than the one they used.
Says you. This one feels so bland. So boring.
@@FinalStigma It’s the same Zeus. He’s talking about this one helping Thor instead of the one who tried to kill him
Still bad by physic
@@FinalStigma At least he's not a complete joke here.
@@rahulbhowmick9225 you realize the original look of zeus was kinda bland and almost dad bodyish
HOW CAN A DELETED SCENE BE BETTER THAN THE ENTIRE MOVIE
havent seen this crap of a movie, but, how is it possible that this horrendous goofy scene is better than a whole film put up for the masses to watch? LOL
amazing
@@WJACOTT trust me dude. This is less goofy than what actually happened in the film
Gorr scene better
Taika probably wanted to put more jokes in the movie instead
u are just poor and negative kid who can't understand movies
"Zues is not pure" that one line sums up his entire mythohistory
This scene is interesting since it explains how Thor was able to give thunder powers to all of those kids, since electricity is everywhere.
Exactly
Yes very shazam 😅
Yes, it would've made more sense than him suddenly being able to do that for no reason. Which bring the question why didn't he do that before? Wouldn't this ability be useful in like every Avengers movie?
@@TheN1ghtwalker MCU has changed. Loosing interest from this now a days 😄
@@TheN1ghtwalker because this Thor was different, he has since grown in wisdom and power
This would have made so much more sense. All they had to do was make Hercules jealous of Zeus mentoring Thor to motivate him to pick a fight for the next movie.
But it’s kind of a retread of what Thor learned in Ragnarok
Nope. It doesn't fit in the movie at all, especially since Thor believed he killed Zeus and Zeus has absolutely no interest in borrowing his powers/secret weapon to someone else.
Thats so basic
@@NoahForce What actually took place was basic and made no sense. Zeus was weak and completely out of character.
@@spiderrocket8367 Thor losing his weapon was a re-tread too. It would make sense for Zeus to show him how to wield a lightning bolt as one.
The fact that this scene was replaced by that fight scene in the movie just boggles my mind. This explains why the thunderbolt was important to the plot -- it would actually take them to Gorr. In the movie, they're just like "Thunderbolt is strong so let us borrow it". Also, this movie desperately needed more quiet, dramatic scenes like this, rather than the overabundance of messy CGI fights that we got.
The whole movie was probably improvised without script/plot. Take that instance for example, Only pure can reach eternity zeus said.. Gorr ?
@@TimeLoop01 Gor is pure evil
@@TimeLoop01 Gorr is pure.
@@007dalal Yeah, a pure bellend.
Got 'em.
@@TimeLoop01Gorr is pure
This scene had a heartfelt conversation and gave a lot of character to Zues, which is why Taika took it out
I'm very sure the ones who took this out were Marvel themselves
@@ReaperFrost but taika said the theatrical release was his final cut
@@rebelfriend1818
All directors hired by major studios will say that, yet that's absolutely not true
If that was the case then there would have been no screen tests, which are never done by the director but the studio that wants to adecuate the movie to a larger audience
@@ReaperFrostTaika is a director where the put a lost trust in like James Gunn and Coogler. This was him. Not all of it is the studios fault. Nowadays it is.
@@caylya7869 Negative. If it was him, why make the deleted scene at all? The scene was made and the studio hated it. Wise Zeus would ruin the next movie.
As Christian Bale himself said the 4hr cut was much better and darker then original.
ok so we need a zack snyder cut but Taika Waititi cut instead or better yet a christian bale cut of the movie
@@Fluffy-rp4co We need a taika waititi cut with taika waititi cut from the cut
eh idk about that lmfao, have you seen the other deleted scenes?
Where did he say that
He said it was darker, not better.
This makes me wish Zeus was more like a mentor for Thor, no need to make it super serious, keep his personality like in the movie.
And they could have made it that hercules was jealous of thor
@@raciallymotivated553 "You're Hired!"
A menthor, as it were.
@@raciallymotivated553 and then make hera fueled that jealousy
@@RahmatrianZ Indeed. Why should Thor, an outsider, get more attention than the Gods of the Pantheon by the King of the Gods?
Im feeling this scene more than what we got, they properly made Zeus a right dickhead but he seems okay here.
Zeus is a dickhead though
This is because Zeus is a dickhead in mythology.
Don't go by DC's version.
They have made him different (which is completely fine)
in the real myths, zeus is a right dickhead tho
Ditto.
WHY ON MIDGARD DID THEY NOT GO THIS ROUTE?!?!?!? This looks like an infinitely better movie than what we got.
1 name taika watiti
No one asked
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"Power is everywhere." Hmm, this line would have tied in well with the captured Asgardian children. If power is everywhere, then power is in them too. Give them the spark, and they can use it.
This is kinda give a science vibes tbh
This is a very different take to the Zeus we get in the movie.
It's more serious and not a villain.
The heck happened.
Because real Zeus is vapid and vain. This one is basically another Odin
Blame it on Taika
@@longebane no, odin is not funny, this is just a better character then what we had
@@longebane well Odin and Zeus are pretty much the same in the comics though. Both are serious and stoic and both of them are friends in the comic. Could even say that they are brothers (not by blood). Comic Zeus was actually really nice to thor and he became another father to him after odins death.
@@longebane He can be both, its not hard to be Vapid and Vain, but still be knowledgeable. Especially when you are as old as he is, that personality can just be a front so people don't approach him the way Thor did.
Now this scene should've never been deleted. This could've gave a reason why Hercules would want to fight Thor.
Basically, he gets mad that Zeus treats him better than he does him? Zeus is like, "He's willing to LEARN"
He wants to fight thor because Thor threw his bolt through his chest
@@yungtitan24 Right, but the version that would have had this scene would have been less Thor on Zeus violence.
Hercules is mandated by Zeus to ho after Thor... and teaching him how to use a bolt wouldn't be enough reasons to fight someone. Y'all are as bad and basic writers as Taika 😂
Basic and lame AF!
“To go there you must be pure,Zeus is many things but he is not pure” -Zeus
This 2 min scene developed zeus more than the film itself
This kind of thing just demonstrates that, these days, they just make it up as they go along. This is a totally different story.
Almost like it's fiction
That's how Taika works, improvisation is a big part of his creative process and that means big changes during the production.
@@danielruiz8259and worked for Ragnarok. But here, he needed to hire someone to say no to him when he went too far
@@Random_dud31 THANK YOU. Taika was way too up his own rear in this movie......
when the deleted scene is better than the movie itself:
The movie was fine it's just the way they used the character Zeus
Really isn't
@@johnamoateng-frimpong4903 It's not fine actually it was like written by a kid and they also wasted the character of Gorr.
@@Ace_Tails Dw,the guy is still a better writer
@@owensanfordstuff but made an awful movie
An awful lot of these deleted scenes are way better than what we got in the movie. Can't we have like a Snyder Cut-type thing in Marvel?
Because Hack Snyder's movies are garbage.
@@barfo281 yeah like this movie was soooo awesome
@@finnymathew6400 It's better than Man of Stool, Batfleck v Stuporman, Justice Leak, Blunder Woman, Blunder Woman 84, Aguaman, etc.
it'll be like Disney admitting their fault but they're too full of pride to admit it
@@pradeepdungdung4379 They made Song of the South and still refuse to apologize for it
Damn. Why couldn't we have had this scene/Zeus in the movie.
lmfao did you see those effects in the end thats why
This scene was clearly cut at some point mid production. Likely becuase it wasn't funny or light hearted enough for the movies tone.
@@lukre366 it's a deleted scene, so they didn't bother finishing up on the effects
@@lukre366 You clearly need functioning brain cells.
@@lukre366 Its a deleted scene with unfinished effects. Have you never seen this sort of thing before?
Fact that he admits he isn't pure is amazing. why didn't we get THIS movie
this scene is what we need in the movie. its feel sad and enlighting at the same time, give Thor some hope after he lost everyone, especially his father - Odin. Zeus as Thor's father figure will make soooo much interesting. wtf disney
Disney? Father figure? Nah they'd rather encourage "strong single mom"
They won't even do it properly@@TjoaWeiHan
This Zeus showed a lot of wisdom and power in this small scene than the one in the movie
Why the hell wasn’t this in the movie?! How was what we got in the movie better?!
It’s Taika Waititi, so this scene was likely cut because it wasn’t funny (or rather, it wasn’t trying to turn literally every line into a joke).
@@Will_Morand true
probably because they wanted to set thor vs hercules for the next movie
made more sense
It was cut because the studio said so
This scene changes half the movie and the ending credit. It makes me wonder if there was a fight going on behind the scenes between the Studio and Director/ Writers. And it got so far that it was filmed and had effects added.
Makes me want to see the original script because this is a FACINATING change.
Why didn't they go with this? It's so much better than what they actually did
Taika waititi, silly sounding name, silly directing
@@jason___1697 because he doesn't have a well known name like Jason, he's silly?
@@owensanfordstuff his name is silly sounding to me. What? Can't even have an opinion now? This isn't twitter
If this was there instead then no hercules vs thor would’ve came so far. You remember post credit scene ?
@@amansahani7750I would rather have a better movie than a set up.
This scene is actually a hundred times better than what we got
this one deleted scene is far better than the entire movie.
...can someone please make a better cut of the Love and Thunder? so much potential...
How about a completely better movie all together?
You know... this scene has that Taika feeling, but why they decided to only put his humor, we needed more than that
Why do they always leave the best stuff out of the movie? The deleted scenes are almost always gold
An alternate universe where the move was actually taken seriously
Thor: love and thunder. What a cartoon! From the title to the movie itself.
wdym "cartoon"? is that all uve watched in ur 5 years of life? cartoons?
The title? You just haven't watched it have you? You don't even know what the title refers to
Thor: "Wait, why was this scene cut? It could have added so much to Thor."
Hulk: "YES! That's how it feels!"
1:52
No way you gotta be kidding with me is this scene in the movie for real ? 😂😂😅
What a masterpiece
😀🤣
Unfinished CGI is many things. But it is no pure.
This is what's called 'post-viz,' they put stand-in CG into the already shot scene before they send the shot to a VFX house, so they know how they want it to look
Why are marvel deleted scenes so much better than what we get in the theatres?!!
We need a petition to release the 4 hour cut of this movie cause bale said it was a darker movie
that last goat riding looks and feels better then the entire movie
😂
It's certainly more funny than the actual movie.
Why did they delete this amazing version of Zeus?
Because they touch themselves at night!
for jokes
The one we got was very accurate to the actual Zeus from mythology
@@owensanfordstuff The actual Zeus was super paranoid and a warrior. The real Zeus would start a full war even before Thor .
@@GamerKhiladi what else did Zeus do? That made him a villain ?
Zeus is many things but he is no Pure
That's so Accurate as Heck if you actualy read his Mythology.
I'd like this much more than the final version
Wow this was so much better than what they had
1:30 At least he's honest
Why did they turn Zeus along with all the other gods into jokes? All it did was validate Gorrs goal and reasoning that the gods are useless baffoons who exploit the people and are better off dead.
almost like maybe that was the point lmfao
As the MCU continues its slide, the villains are becoming more likable than the heroes.
@@Daewonnni (people have always complained about unrelated and paper thin villains, now you’re getting ones with depth and you complain that the focus is being put on them)
Dude, gods are just aliens, and some of them took advantage of the fact that the weaker races look up to them for their powers, just like normal people. Watch the first Thor movie again. Odin literally says "We are not gods."
@@FinalStigma yeah but he was talking about norse gods. it appears at least some gods, namely egyptian and wakandan gods, are real, as they both have a unique afterlife. it also seems valhalla is real in the mcu so there is a norse afterlife even if the gods arent real gods.
THIS SCENE IS BETTER THAN THE ENTIRE MOVIE
Zeus: Zeus is many things, but pure he is not.
Why the heck did they delete this scene!? It’s much more pleasant to watch than the official version 😵💫😵💫😵💫
0:22 from stick become lightning
So they completely changed the character of Zeus during filming? What a complete mess this film was....
shut you're mouth
Yeah
"what a complete mess this film was"...I don't think you know much do you?
@@owensanfordstuff what are you even trying to say dude... this is a valid criticism, apparently they didnt even have a direction to go with, its not that the actual lines are not 100% done, thats fine they can make up thngs based on the script, bur even the script was not known when they were filming if they also shot scenes where characters behave completely different.
@@jdmfsdjs not everything is set in stone, apparantly there wasn't much of a script for Ragnarok, key word being "apparantly "
This scene is much better, zues giving Thor a father wisdom.
this 1+ minute scene gave both Thor & Zeus a better character depths that they did the entire movie
This would have made sense in the movie. It was weird that Thor suddenly knew how to use the Lightning Bolt.
This was way better than what we got! Wow!
BRO THIS SCENE IS MUCH BETTER THEN THE ORIGINAL ONE
Much prefer this deleted scene rather than the Zeus scene we got that just made him a joke.
When Zeus was being more Father than Odin did for a thousands of years.
0:58 this moment reminds me of a father showing his son how to cast a fishing pole or ride a bike. Zeus backing away has Thor begins to understand thunderbolt was like a father watching his son ride off on the bike or pulling back a fish for the first time. Just very sad that they didn't include this in the movie.
In the deleted scene, zeus is more mature and wiser then the one they used
After seeing these scenes I'm actually confused with the actual story that we did see
Why?
How can a deleted scene be better than the entire final cut of the movie
this is so much better on so many levels its depressing
More evidence for how poorly Love and Thunder was finalised. This scene with Zeus was going to go a long way in not letting us down.
Why is this so much better than what we got??
This is okay for Zeus, but it hurts the emotional scene of Thor and Jane.
No matter how taika could never have made it work. someone needs to clean up marvels writing team.
"boss should we delete this scene?"
"yes, it doesn't have haha funny joke in it it must be executed immediately"
“To go there, you must be pure.”
Boi, didn’t Gorr, who killed thousands of gods, also go there?
Depends on how one defines pure. Purely what? Gorr started off purer than any of them. The sword twisted him in his grief towards darkness, but he remained pure in his focus, in his dedication. He was not corrupted by pleasures. He did not succumb to temptations.
Gorr was sacrifice asgardian kids to open eternity door
Pure means being sexually abstinent, which Zeus was clearly not.
@@rohanmaghade - Uh, I'm pretty sure Thor Odinson and Jane Foster weren't that, either.
@@amberckerr it's just the traditional meaning of purity.
Don't know about them.
“Zeus is many things, but he is not pure” has got to be history’s greatest understatement
This itself feels like a completely different movie
Like the idea of Zeus being a new father figure to thor tho, like and adopted son
Movie could’ve been better
Man, this take so much better than what we got.
The movie Zeus attitude shoulda gone to Hercules, and Zeus be more like shown here. It would parallel the first Thor we saw, and Zeus ignoring the signs til his son goes too far so publicly (sound familiar). It would give herc a personally reason to hate Thor like the end credits, but now you aren't forced to have Zeus on his son's side per se. You can go either way, leave him out of it, etc.
According to mythology Zeus is known for being wise, fair, just, merciful and prudent this scene fits Zeus character so much better than what we got in the film
Zeus is anything BUT fair, just and merciful in Greek Mythology. If anything, the movie version is much closer to the mythological Zeus than a lot of versions. Though in all fairness, Zeus could be just and fair at times. Doesn't change the fact this scene is several galaxies better than the weakling we had.
Getting thunderbolt after losing strombreaker makes more sense instead of requesting thunderbolt when thor already had strombreaker.
No wonder it got cut, there's no "joke" every other line
This scene would've made the movie so much better
Once again, a deleted scene is actually better than the movie it was removed from.
This scene makes more sense than killing him for fun and gages
This Zeus is better than a one note joke and this Thor feels like the old Thor from the first 2 movies… that scene with the hammer was too silly even for this film.
Another cut scene that's better than what we got.
Ironically this bolt looks better than the one in the movie
Did anyone notice the CGI at 1:32 when Jane arrives?
The gladiator himself teaching things to Thor in his afterlife. Who would of thought :D
We need an official release of the extended cut of this movie.
The cut that could have saved the whole movie.
The Zeus we deserved.
We need the extended cut !
This movie could have been so much better. They made it to goofy.
0:21 perfect. The music, editing, Thor’s in awe of thunderbolt. seeing how powerful and cool Zeus is..
Like everyone else here says, we should've had this Zeus. Have him teach Thor to open his heart to explain how he was able to power the kids. And if they wanted to have the Hercules anti-hero story, they could've had Gorr kill Zeus and have Hercules believe it to be Thor.
Zeus should've visited Thor with his wound after the Omnipotence City scene and have a heart to heart about his flaws, the needs of the people and its consequences such as Gorr's attacks and Thor's attack on Zeus and finishing it off with the open your heart lesson. That way, Gorr killing Zeus would be really meaningful and Hercules could be somehow made to believe that Thor killed his father in Omnipotence City.
This deleted scene would’ve been the perfect reason for Hercules wanting to fight Thor.
You know what could've worked? Just when thor asks for the lightning, then after zeus said no he should said : "Just kidding, meet me [insert location] after this."
That could've worked better
It turns out that not the whole film was shown, there are still many interesting moments.
Ah so that's where that Exclusive Look shot was from!
But I'm confused. While this scene answers how Thor understood how Thunderbolts work, the more intriguing question is how is Zeus chill with him after Thor attacked and humiliated him recently? And not just that, they got so close that Zeus shared a secret witn Thor which he didn't even tell any of his sons?
Im guessing a different outcome occured in their first meeting.
The Zeus in this version was probably going to be an ally of Thor, rather than an enemy, and they probably never fought.
We better ask for that 4 hour cut. This is much better.
You're all right, this scene would've made much more sense
This is how Zeus would act in my mind not a show of. Zeus would be sensible, calm and wise
What the hell why didn't we get this instead 😡
We need the original four hour cut