It mightn't have been an offence back then and maybe only introduced when too many pedestrian were getting hit ... Then again, I'm always waiting for a pedestrian with their nose into their phone crossing the road while I have a green light in a car ! ... Times have change and sometimes nothing changes !
This is nice of Mr. RUclips sending me videos to watch. The olden days! Seeing Elizabeth Street reminds me I have to catch the train to Flinders St and where I used to be able to walk to Mars Leathers now I'm too feeble I might need a tram as well.
You're not feeble, you just haven't thought of a way to get around and with all these new tram platforms, it's made it much easier within town and on some routes with these new raised platforms ! 👍
At 7:33 the Hail Cars Here refers to Tramcars as they were known from the start. The Hail Car signs were widespread in the suburbs until the 1980s. Must have confused some as time went on. Rare to see a sign in a photo. When electric trams were introduced they were referred to as electric cars and the cable trams as just trams. Maps of the transition time used this distinction.
I'd imagine those "Hail Car" signs are a collectors item - Thanks for the history and information ... There is a lot of knowledge out there from viewers !
Looking at the old tram pictures took me back quite a few years I rode on many of them. One thing is how light the traffic was. Angle parking down the end of Elizabeth St. No way today!
My days go back when some of the trams had doors that stayed open while travelling ... even some trains didn't have automatic self closing doors either - early 70's !
I rode the old SW2s many a time. Bar across the doors and canvas doors pulled down in bad weather. If you had a bag you put it under the seat out of the way. The conductor came along with a bag selling tickets. If you have him a note he unloaded as much change on you as he could. Somewhere I have an MMTB drivers manual.
@@kenmather8337 I thought the S meant sliding driver controlled doors. Thought they only started with the later SW5. Definitely Heard of W2 but not SW2 trams.
@@johnd8892 there was only 1. There was a scheme being considered to modernize the fleet. Sliding doors and modernized interiors etc. From memory 275 was the prototype and only one converted. The last I saw of it was in Bendigo. Apparently the benefits weren't considered worthwhile.
@@johnd8892 made an error , should have been W2 you are right. There were a few odd trams like that, 980 was another. On the old western system they reused old running gear under new bodies that didn't work out either.
The railway infrastructure, buildings, fittings and fixtures have stood the test of time and is basically some of our oldest modernising development history
A horse tram ran to the zoo through Royal Park. In the chaos of the 1926 Police Strike the stables for the horses were burnt down which ended the service.
That could change again if we follow what's happening in China with their trams that have no overhead wires and generate electricity via the roadway, that's supposed to reduce the infrastructure cost for trams by 50%
@@alanriley9754 in Sydney the new trams, & their tracks in the CBD have a third rail in which the current is only active in the section when tram is over it. I'm not sure how the ones in China work, or what Urban Aerial Explorer means by "electricity via the roadway". To my knowledge, it'd be via something along/in the roadway, not "through" the roadway. Also, check out "trackless trams". It's a tram with tyres that doesn't have rails but follows lines on the road
Unfortunately the archived photos in the State Library are limited and one would need to specifically search for it and I couldn't find much; this is what I did find rosetta.slv.vic.gov.au/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_func=stream&dps_pid=FL16056877
Awesome video. Thanks!
I love how lots of these photos contain Melburnian’s indulging in the great tradition in this city of ‘jaywalking’ throughout its entire history.
It mightn't have been an offence back then and maybe only introduced when too many pedestrian were getting hit ... Then again, I'm always waiting for a pedestrian with their nose into their phone crossing the road while I have a green light in a car ! ... Times have change and sometimes nothing changes !
Really enjoyed that. Thank-you for your time well spent
This is nice of Mr. RUclips sending me videos to watch. The olden days! Seeing Elizabeth Street reminds me I have to catch the train to Flinders St and where I used to be able to walk to Mars Leathers now I'm too feeble I might need a tram as well.
You're not feeble, you just haven't thought of a way to get around and with all these new tram platforms, it's made it much easier within town and on some routes with these new raised platforms ! 👍
At 7:33 the Hail Cars Here refers to Tramcars as they were known from the start. The Hail Car signs were widespread in the suburbs until the 1980s. Must have confused some as time went on. Rare to see a sign in a photo.
When electric trams were introduced they were referred to as electric cars and the cable trams as just trams. Maps of the transition time used this distinction.
I'd imagine those "Hail Car" signs are a collectors item - Thanks for the history and information ... There is a lot of knowledge out there from viewers !
Mr. RUclips sent me this one again, just now. Probably to remind me I still haven't been back to Mars Leathers.
Mars Leather motorcycle wear was on Elizabeth St ?
@@urbanaerialexplorer1885 yeah they've been there for years.
Looking at the old tram pictures took me back quite a few years I rode on many of them. One thing is how light the traffic was. Angle parking down the end of Elizabeth St. No way today!
My days go back when some of the trams had doors that stayed open while travelling ... even some trains didn't have automatic self closing doors either - early 70's !
I rode the old SW2s many a time. Bar across the doors and canvas doors pulled down in bad weather. If you had a bag you put it under the seat out of the way. The conductor came along with a bag selling tickets. If you have him a note he unloaded as much change on you as he could. Somewhere I have an MMTB drivers manual.
@@kenmather8337 I thought the S meant sliding driver controlled doors. Thought they only started with the later SW5.
Definitely Heard of W2 but not SW2 trams.
@@johnd8892 there was only 1. There was a scheme being considered to modernize the fleet. Sliding doors and modernized interiors etc. From memory 275 was the prototype and only one converted. The last I saw of it was in Bendigo. Apparently the benefits weren't considered worthwhile.
@@johnd8892 made an error , should have been W2 you are right. There were a few odd trams like that, 980 was another. On the old western system they reused old running gear under new bodies that didn't work out either.
Flinders st hasn't changed,they still use the old trams for the city circle,for tourist,I used to catch the number 1 tram.🙂🌺
The railway infrastructure, buildings, fittings and fixtures have stood the test of time and is basically some of our oldest modernising development history
Melbourne still has the biggest tram network tiday
Wow at 0.42 a horse drawn tram my grandma told me about these trams how she had ridden on one when she was a young child
If you would like to see one in real life and you live in Victoria - Check out this website and it's located in Hawthorn www.hawthorntramdepot.org.au/
A horse tram ran to the zoo through Royal Park.
In the chaos of the 1926 Police Strike the stables for the horses were burnt down which ended the service.
Wonderful collection of nostalgic public transport images, plus a look at Melbourne as it was.
The overall feel of the streets would have been much different after the cable trams were replaced with overhead wire electric trams.
That could change again if we follow what's happening in China with their trams that have no overhead wires and generate electricity via the roadway, that's supposed to reduce the infrastructure cost for trams by 50%
@@urbanaerialexplorer1885 sounds like that could affect the health of many people?
@@alanriley9754 in Sydney the new trams, & their tracks in the CBD have a third rail in which the current is only active in the section when tram is over it.
I'm not sure how the ones in China work, or what Urban Aerial Explorer means by "electricity via the roadway".
To my knowledge, it'd be via something along/in the roadway, not "through" the roadway.
Also, check out "trackless trams". It's a tram with tyres that doesn't have rails but follows lines on the road
Where's the Preston Depot where they built them? No sign of it.
Unfortunately the archived photos in the State Library are limited and one would need to specifically search for it and I couldn't find much; this is what I did find rosetta.slv.vic.gov.au/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_func=stream&dps_pid=FL16056877
Best cıty ın the world
It's a young city, so hopefully we learn for others around the world when it comes to planning, infrastructure and providing for society needs !
1:18 Procession of Australian infantry off to the Boer War - with cable trams
Those risk takers sitting on the awnings of the shops though? Yes?