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The worst part of this is that he's completely right because every single time he's shown someone mercy someone he's cared about has died.
0:28 true blackpowder... ww2 footage guns make more smoke
@@SStupendous ok?
@@tieflingcorpse9817 Didn't ask you to make a brainless reply
@@SStupendous nobody asked you to comment in the first place, dumbass
@@SStupendous HOLY MOTHER OF HELL HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BE SO GODDAMN ENTITLED!? The comment SAID nothing of your reply and when people are confused you call them brainless? Unless you're OP's friend you clearly HAVE a TERRIBLE way of communicating with others! You should work on it, it's called common sense.
"All the people that died because of my mercy" -- Then he showed mercy once again... And issac died.
that's because it isn't mercy. it's actually a lack of mercy (for everyone that they will go on and hurt,) not to punish the criminal. pass it on lol
Only because he sent Jex outside the town boundary
@@GotoMaki4Micah Lack of justice. Mercy implies sovereign over a case. Here it's not finishing the job.
@@GotoMaki4Micah exactly yeah
He referenced the master
I LOVE when the Doctor says "today I honor the victims"
Sarah D I like the and The Masters part
Sarah D honour*
CJThorn they didn’t necessarily spell it incorrectly, in certain countries, honor is the more common spelling while in others, honour is more acceptable. It’s the same situation with “color” and “colour”, “theater” and “theatre”.
@@queerlittlecactus8749 there are blatant errors in how other countries typically spell things though. For example, in Britain, it’s spelled “school”, while in America for some reason it’s spelled “shooting range”.
@@joshbrown487 That's because Americans have class, as opposed to Britain's diversity which is spelled like "acid, knife, and truck attacks" for some reason.
That line, “you wouldn’t” “i genuinely don’t know.” It’s not a threat or harsh comment. It’s a hole in the doctors moral armor, where the only thing that waits is the beast bellow
Reminds me a bit of when the 12th Doctor isn't sure if he's a good man - it's that same sense of him not being sure exactly what he's capable of or how far he'll go. The way he says "I genuinely don't know" - he's not angry, he's just really not sure. Also reminds me of When A Good man Goes to War - when he says that he's angry, and that he's not sure what's going to happen now.
Jex: **wants to live**
Also Jex: **stands completely still when he’s told to quickly come back to safety**
Yup. Insane. Doc should've killed him.
Ikr wtf-
@Taramafor Haikido There is nothing causing him to freeze in panic tho. Everyone had already lowered their weapons and he hadn't even seen the Bounty Hunter yet, Dude was 8 whole seconds away and didn't even raise his gun until he was at point blank range. When told to step over the line, Jex just stared at the Doctor.
Maybe he just gave up and decided it was his time to face justice?
It was easy for him to try and hide when the gunslinger was far away. But when he’s faced with the disfigured man of his own creation, his conscience begins to make him stay to face his consequences.
Eleven was much easier to persuade than Ten in comparison to the timelord victorious scene.
Good point I mean it took a suicide to stop the 10th Doctor from going all time lord victorious wow the Eleventh it took some words from Amy.
Well, considering he remembers that, maybe it's both combined inside his mind
he is maturer
Thats because Ámy is a close friend, ten was alone, time lord victorious would have never happened if at that moment Rose, Martha or Donna where there with him!
Not Spiderman if amy or Rory wasn't there he probs would of killed him if he did kill him in this scene then that would show how fed up and tired the doctor is and show his darkness
1:12 - 1:17 Is almost a nod to 'The Waters of Mars' in the sense that when the Doctor doesn't have an occasional human word of wisdom in his ear, he starts to see himself as judge and jury of who lives and who dies. And it usually ends disastrously.
+azapro911 He needs humans, or rather, mortals. It's a terrifying thing.
I was thinking the same thing
+Jadedcobalt Gildedjade we're a 2nd conscience to him. A " Greek chorus " ( ? ).
the thing is i sort of agree with him. mercy in the doctor's case has gotten many people killed
azapro911 Disagree. Amy overstepped her bounds here. It is not up to her to dictate to the Doctor how to live his life. He listens to her when he wants to, not when she demands it. This is the point at which every companion becomes insufferable. The point when they think that they own him and that they know better than he does. It happens very early for some (Rose) and later for others (River), but almost all the female companions end up this way.
1:03 I'm just sitting here wondering if Amy even knew what he was talking about name-dropping the Master. The Ponds missed out on meeting him/her.
He told her about Gallifrey in an off screen moment. She references it in The Doctor's Wife. It stands to reason he's mentioned the Master.
@@NateSean Yeah. I Think he mentioned what happened in the End Of Time Too Right? (Off screen Of Course).
You never know, she may have met the Master in an untelevised story. The 11th Doctor met the Ainley Master in a comic, and the 12th Doctor met the Delgado one in a DWM comic strip
This would mean that Sacha Dwahn is from this time he occasionally visits 13
Good on them. But I'm sure the Doctors talked about him
And this is why the Doctor needs a companion. Like Donna said, sometimes, he needs someone to stop him. Even the childlike 11th Doctor. Sometimes we forget just how old and how much he has seen, and Matt, despite being the youngest, shows this all wonderfully. And I love how Amy is the only one he really listens to.
Completely agree. Without his companions, he'd be like maybe Batman, the Punisher or Judge Dredd with a TARDIS.
Well seeing though she's technically his mother in law, there is also a faint sign of parental scolding to it as well.
It's been obvious since William Hartnell's Doctor that the Doctor needs his companions to keep him on his good side. When we first saw the Doctor 50 years ago, he was a short-tempered, coldly detached alien who looked down on everyone else. Over time, Ian and Barbara, his granddaughter, Susan, the people they helped, and even sometimes their enemies helped to show the Doctor how to become the hero he's famed for being in all his following regenerations.
DalekTheSupreme yeah, it definitely has, and I love that it is something that they have continued throughout the years. The Doctor needs a companion. Without his companions, he wouldn't be who he is.
DalekTheSupreme The moment where he tries to kill the caveman so they can escape in the Cave of Skulls (?) and Ian takes charge and stops him is so similar to this scene I think.
"Everyone who isn't an American, drop their weapon!"
I'll never drop my weapon as long your here!
+PMW3 Must be in Texas.
+PMW3 True
-keeps mine-
PMW3 true xD
For those who say that this came out of nowhere and had no impact on him, this WAS the impact on him. This is his bottled up feelings of anger and remorse bubbling to the surface, it was the final straw after having so many people suffer. He said it himself how he always tries to negotiate out of it and try not to have to resort to violence in stories like Victory of the Daleks, Vampires of Venice, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People, A Good Man Goes to War, The God Complex and now here. He sees history repeating itself and wants to stop these innocent people from getting killed, and usually he would try to establish a truce only for the one person he let go and decided to forgive ruin it and the innocents get slaughtered. He feels guilty because it keeps happening around him.
I would have thought Timelord Victorious from the Waters of Mars would have been where this attitude of the Doctor's had stemmed from.
The Doctor Unchained
The D is silent
Bryan Werntz that’s what the darlecks are for
@@Nuptonic Daleks*
The Doctor Unleashed
im on the doctors side, every enemy he has ever faced he has let have a second chance, he let them live, they dont learn, they go away and hurt more people. that man tortured and made people into weapons, and he thinks he can get off scott free
Which just screams batman
Kaleem
Doctor Who came first, I believe.
Actually batman came first. Batman was first introduced in comics during 1939 and doctor who first came out in 1964
Camaroni1000 1963, you mean.
No he was in detective comics 27 in 1939 I believe
0:38 Rory's reaction...
Hrmpf. "Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent."
The definition of mercy is not receiving a punishment which is deserved.
The "innocent" have no need of mercy; by definition, it is the guilty who receive mercy.
Without any mercy, where would we be?
Well put.
MoronaNamchawt he\she is trying to imply that if you give mercy to the guilty, the innocent will be given cruelty. No matter the amount. They are not saying that the innocent need mercy. They are saying that giving mercy to the guilty hurts the innocents, no matter the size.
Yes but the innocent get hurt with or without mercy. Showing mercy to the guilty is what makes you better than the guilty. It sets a standard for anyone who thinks it may be better to stop being innocent and take up a life of crime and misery. Showing mercy shows the innocent that someone still cares and that being innocent is not a failure if someone is willing to fight for them.
Violence begets violence, it infects and spreads like a virus.
Loneliness can cause mental and unstable insainity. We all need someone in our lifes.
because humans are social creatures, which is how we have survived for so long
Ninjasnake
Except for one thing, he is not human.
oh yeah...
rob vucak but he's still a person, just different.
rob vucak but i feel like he is a species that needs more social contact than humans
“You’re both good men, you just forget it sometimes”
That line got me, it was so powerful that you can’t help holding back tears or just feel a little bit of sorrow
Rest In Peace John Chriton.....
I like what they were trying to do here, but they were being a tad too light-hearted with this scene. If they removed Amy's goofy little misfires and focused more on they dialogue, giving it more time to sink in, this could have been a really deep moment where we could really see the Doctor's turmoil.
Walter Kovacs One question though...were they actually "goofy misfires"? She did it twice and the second time looked rather deliberate. I almost think she knew exactly what she was doing; the only shot that I think may have been a misfire was probably the second, and neither the first nor the third were accidents.
Albus Nix Yes, they were goofy misfires. The latest seasons of Doctor Who are so terrified of making anything too extreme happen to their main characters, hell they even undid the dramatic and traumatizing ending of the time war. They tiptoe around really big issues, and when they don't, they handle them so tastelessly.
Walter Kovacs Um "anything too extreme"?? Not sure what you mean by that. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, but I'm not sure I'd call a child getting kidnapped, brainwashed into being a psychopathic killer, having to grow up as a friend, rather than child, of her parents, and then losing them in one extremely emotional episode "not extreme." Rory gets dies twice and then gets brought back (once in the Silurian stronghold, once in Manhattan), has to live with the knowledge that he nearly killed the woman he loved, and really did leave an older version of her to her death, and had to make the choice to sacrifice himself to restore time and try to keep them both safe. Clara dies twice saving the Doctor and sacrifices one of the things she holds dearest in order to save the people of Akhaten; she walks into the Doctors timestream with fully believing that it will kill her, just so that she can protect the universe and undo the damage to the Doctor's life; and she has to deal with the Doctor being possessed by the Cybermen in _Nightmare in Silver_. To be honest, I think you're looking too superficially at the Moffat series. There's actually a lot of "extreme" things that happen to the characters, and they _don't_ tiptoe around issues. Series 6 deals with love, self-sacrifice, pride, anger, making choices, and trust. Series 7a deals with the repair of a divorce, the meaning of marriage, suicide, and family. Series 7b is essentially delving down into the Doctor's psyche and watching _him_, rather than Clara, develop as a person. There's a reason Clara seems so static in Series 7b--she isn't the character getting developed and moved forward as much as the Doctor is.
TL;DR: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a _lot_ of extreme stuff happens to the main characters. They don't tiptoe around issues and, TBH, when you say they deal with them "tastelessly," honestly--don't be a sourpuss, and learn that there can be humor in even the darkest of moments. The Doctor would say the same thing, I think. Just because they introduce silly or funny moments into an otherwise serious situation doesn't mean they're being tasteless or too light-hearted. The dialogue they used already showed the Doctor's turmoil well enough, and there would have been no reason for the Marshal to tell them to put down the guns if she hadn't "misfire" like that in the first place--meaning the confrontation could have taken a much darker turn, which _really_ would have ruined the episode.
Albus Nix *Spoilers* What Mr. Kovacs was getting at is that they do in fact dumb down some emotional things, it's built into the storylines themselves. You said it yourself, Rory dies twice but comes back so everything is still fine. Clara dies many times but it's ok because it wasn't the real Clara. Rory does end up leaving an older Amy behind but after that episode everything returns to normal (I honestly thought that would have been enough for him to leave the Doctor behind). Even in Amy and Rory's last episode Moffat writes both characters off in a way where everything is fine it's just the Doctor that ends up a mess. Whereas in the RTD series of old, the time war always had an influence on the Doctor. He committed genocide once again as the 10th Doctor in a Christmas special, nearly became a villain in "The Family of Blood" and Series 4 saw Donna's entire memory wiped. RTD wasn't afraid of portraying the dark parts of the Doctor whereas the 11th Doctor is best described as "the man who forgets."
Exactly, thank you sir. You took the words right out of my mouth.
rory is 100000% done with 11 and amy
"2000 years and nothing's changed, i give up"
Rory is just tired of watching them haha
Series 7 is one of my favourite series of Doctor Who, BECAUSE of episodes like A Town Called Mercy. Claustrophobic, taut, adult & powerful, with the Doctor bordering on dark, menacing & fragile. It reminded me of The Waters of Mars (one of my favourite episodes of all time). Such an overlooked classic, this one!
"Classic" isn't the correct word. Genesis of the Daleks, Sea Devils, The Tenth Planet are classics. I'm afraid anything after 2005 isn't a classic.
Doomsday? Blink? Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead? Turn Left? The Stolen Earth? Time of the Angels/Flesh & Stone? Day of the Doctor?
NONE of those are classics to you? Oh, well. Matter of opinion.
MrDCWood No they're not. It's a matter of terminology, classics need to be tested over time. Those episodes are way too new to be considered a "classic". Alien, Italian Job, Night of The Living Dead are all classics as they have stood the test of time and still being considered outstanding. Newer James Bond films aren't classics due to this definition. Series 7 is in no way the best series. Some really poor work lately from Moffat and the crew. Looking at the trailers from Series 8 and Day of the Doctor, Asylum of the Daleks etc. the future doesn't look too bleak, maybe bright. Hopefully they don't mess it up with the childish humour they're forcing. A darker, older and more mature doctor is what Doctor Who needs with some good writing as well!
Fair point about them needing to stand the test of time, but I can still watch all those episodes and still be amazed by them now as I was upon first viewing, due to the quality of their writing, the performances of the cast involved and the overall emotional impact to be found. I believe they'll stand the test of time.
I never said Series 7 was THE best, but one of my favourites. (I consider Series 4 with Tenth Doctor/Donna Noble to be the best, personally). And I was considering boycotting the show at one point due to Moffat's direction in Series 6 (which I DIDN'T like), and hating Time of The Doctor. But Moffat really redeemed himself with Series 7 and Day of the Doctor, which is what's made me more hopeful for the future (especially with Peter Capaldi coming on board).
MrDCWood Series 8 is looking good.
is nobody gonna ask how Amy managed to accidentally fire a single action revolver twice without pulling the hammer back on the second shot?
bumped the firing pin maybe
On the first at 0:09 he cocks but in this shot it isn't..
@Mike burner Hate to tell you this, but you know nothing about the Model 1873 Colt, a.k.a. the Peacemaker, Cattleman etc, and you're just trying to justify a simple coninuity mistake in filming. It's NOT a double-action revolver, even if it was it's trigger and hammer (and grip) would have notable differences telling you it ISN'T a double-action revolver.
@@SStupendous tbf the only way she could of accidentally fired was if the hammer got hit un-cocked was if she hit it(which she didn’t)
Writers.
Still wish 11 got his own Master because usually some of the best moments of a Doctor come when they're confronting the Doctor's past or interacting with a Master/Dalek. The Master's supposed death with Ten and Twelve's speech to both Missy and John Simms Master being the two immediate examples to come to mind
The Cool Gamer Dude He probably would’ve gotten Missy if he stayed for series 8.
I’m picturing him clocking the Master in the head with a Fez.
Fair but I almost feel like Missy worked better with the long gap between her and Simms
We saw how easily angry Eleven got when something happens to his companion I’d like to think It would’ve drove Eleven to insanity facing the Master
This is amazing. You see a side of the Doctor that comes out very rarely. THIS IS NOT A NICE SHOW. The Doctor is not always a nice guy. He murdered his whole planet/thought he did. (It's kind of confusing.) He is in his mind a murderer, and he lives with that every second, he doesn't always make the right choice. Sometimes it's impossible to get it right. all that regret bottles up and up until, occasionally, he snaps. He's terrifying, it's these moments when he believes the laws of time can be rewritten, at these moments when he drowns the Racnoss and all her children, and it's at this moment where he electrocutes a Dalek and lets the last human creak. At these moments where he shoots the General of Gallifrey and tries to cheat death. These moments when he tries to put the star whale in the coma, because NOBODY HUMAN HAS ANYTHING TO SAY TO HIM , he lives with more screams echoing throughout his head every second. Every time he closes his eyes he can see the faces of the children he BURNED, he is and always will be the lonely god. He thinks he's undeserving of being saved. His companions keep him sane. He runs because he is terrified of his massacre catching up to him. And it's in these rare moments, that they DO catch up with him.
Not too confusing dude :D
It's exactly what you said, he only thought he destroyed Gallifrey. In reality that didn't happen, he simply managed to hide it. But the events of the 50th were wiped from both the War Doctor's and 10th Doctor's memory, and as such he only remembered the truth after experiencing those events as the 11th Doctor.
So that meant that the 9th, 10th and initially the 11th Doctor lived with the false belief that they destroyed Gallifrey, unaware that it wasn't gone after all.
Michael Townley yeah I liked the old Canon better so i consider day of the doctor non Canon
TGC Productions.Orbit Why lol? The canon didn't change in The Day of the Doctor. What happened in that episode was always what happened. The Doctor simply didn't remember it, and as such assumed that he really had destroyed Gallifrey. But he never had.
+Michael Townley I don't think that's what happened. At the end of the 50th, 11 tells the War Doctor that the timelines are out of sync, which why he can't remember saving Gallifrey. That suggests he changed his past, not that the original past never occurred. Throughout the episode he keeps saying the same sorts of things, like "this time there's 3 of us" etc
J But the Doctor rarely seems to remember meeting future versions of himself, he only remembers such meetings when he IS that future version.
This scene is truly a testament to Matt Smith’s ability to make his roles believable
at :39 Rory is "that's the wife again"
To quote Four's famous conclusion in 'Genesis of the Daleks': 'If I kill just one form of intelligent life, I become no better than the Daleks.'
Well, that basically means he's been no better than the Daleks for a really really long time
Would it have been more emotional if the Doctor shouted "HE'S NOT WORTHY OF MY MERCY!"
Everyone who isn't American drop your weapons!
*drops lightsaber*
*drops knife* I'm a brit
Im American and i laughed so hard at that scene lol
@@lunarianevaeh3922 same
*Drops Infinity Gauntlet* not full American, so I'm dropping it
drops Nescafé blend 43
the twelfth doctor should take the "you're both good men...you just forget it sometimes" line to heart haha
I would've loved to have seen 11 against Simm's Master.
I would love 11 against Dhawan's master
@@ciarantimothy8081 Or 12 against Dhawan's Master. That would be nigh-on apocalyptic.
Amy's face from 1:20 - there's so much emotion there! She's been angry at her best friend, and now you can see the pity/sadness on her face. She knows that he's not a bad man, just that being alone brings out the darkness in him. By 1:31 all she has to do is raise an eyebrow and give him a small smile (the type that basically says 'I know you're wrong, you know you're wrong, let's just let that idea go') and he pulls back. Shows how well she knows him by this point - she doesn't see the imaginary friend of her youth or the hero on a pillar from her days of first travelling with him. She sees her flawed best friend and does her best to help him be his best self. (Did I mention I REALLY miss the Pond era?)
Says the woman who’s a murderer herself. (Amy that is, not you.)
It's a shame that the master wasn't in the series but I'm happy that the 11th doctor remembered the master & I do hope the 11th doctor & the master will meet some day
They already did
When
But the master wasn't in any matt smith episodes
@@culeluke9953 he met the Ainley Master in a comic
"Your number one rule, Don't wander off. Alternative rule number one, basic rule for everyone who meets the Doctor, the Doctor lies. But there's an unspoken rule, the most important one. One rule that the Doctor is not aware of, The Doctor mustn't travel alone." from a fanfic i'm currently writing.
Link please
dude.
that sounds awesome i literally thought it was an actual line from the show i'd forgotten lol
I like how you wrote that quote. It definitely feels like something from the show.
Ian Greene haha thanks. Too bad I never finished the fanfic.
Now this is what he could've gone deeper on. The darker side to him. I mean - yeah people see him as a funny - daft doctor. Some people on some reviews do anyway. I think his brilliant. I think Moffat did a grate job of eleven. Shame he couldn't last one ore season. Would of loved to of seen him and Clara's bond go deeper. Wonder as because he did start getting darker in some moments. But you see just how much his doctors sense of care and guilt is still portrayed. The 50th was amazing. You clearly see how Eleven doesn't want to remember the time war when Ten says '' Over nine hundred years is that how long it takes to forget '' { the children who he was about to kill with the moment } - Brilliant Moffat! Anyone else wish he would've stayed just another year. Then. Then have Capaldi.? Him and Clara could've got another go as the story line could've gone somewhere.
I couldn't agree more. I would have loved to see a darker side to 11
I think this is when I realized the Doctor needed to regenerate soon. Every time, it's like the regenerative energies wash away all the horrors of the universe and leave him reborn. The Doctor was crossing that line. The divided between him and the likes of the Master or Rassilon. It's gonna be a badly needed reset button.
Yeah exactly my thought. War Doctor = tries destroy Gallifrey in order to save the universe, 9th Doctor = tries destroy Earth to save the universe. 10th = Practically proclaimed him self as God. 11th = started loosing his edge
Oh no. 11 had such an edge that he died of natural causes! Pretty sure only 1 and War Doctor managed that.
darthportus You know, I wonder why Ten didn't act like that around Davors or the Master...
Or the Daleks he gave them so many chances.
Too much guilt for both of them. Remember all the killings he did in the Time War wiping out most of the Daleks and "killing" the Timelords, 10 seeing Davros and the Master was like a second chance at redemption kind off, he always went easy on the master plus they we're childhood friends and he even offered to save Davros life at the end of Journey's end but the latter declined and would've rather die than have the Doctor save him.
0:40 Amy was much better off with a sword in "The Curse of the Black Spot".
I still remember when I first saw this episode. I was like "Wait, is that Ben Browder? Yep, it is!"
+Akaihiryuu77 Yeah, he was hidden behind the hair and beard.
I think Ben Browder should be the next actor that plays the Doctor
Only noticed it get pointed out today on Facebook - thought "Wait... THAT'S COL. MITCHELL!"
Also John Crichton in Farscape.
Akaihiryuu77 Yeah, I thought it was cool how Ben and Claudia came over to Stargate after Farscape died. ....and both shows are about wormholes.
How did she misfire twice without pulling back the hammer
Hmm. Ya needed to cock the hammer back for 1800-1850s revolvers. Weird... -3-
+Accidental238 I just think it's Isaac who fires the second shot
Accidental238 Double Action.
Trigger pull shoots, but you can pull it faster by cocking hammer. Hammer moves naturally when the trigger is pulled alone. The Wild West area stretched to the end of the 1800s, so don’t think this is before double action necessarily because its cowboys.
Dabacon BossBro The guns they’re using look a lot like Single Action Army revolvers, Which makes sense as it was the most popular pistol for the entire Western period. Which is single action, hence the name. The hammer has to be pulled back, otherwise the trigger does nothing.
Now Amy May have just grabbed someone who carried a double action. Didn’t get that good a look at her gun so I dunno. Or it could be not knowing how revolvers work.
This episode puts Steven Moffat to shame. Let Toby Whithouse write more episodes damn it!
Toby Whithouse created Being Human, so I'm guessing that's why the characters are very grounded and real. He's an amazing writer!
Rue Mellark Wait, he did? Wow :[] I didn't know that. I do love both this episode and Moffat's (Most of them) though.
a 3 year old could put Moffat to shame.
lenrat117 because Moffat can't throw tantrums like a 3 yr old, or because the 3 yr old has worse handwriting than Moffat does?
lenrat117 Steven wrote brilliant stories, better than you ever could.
This was the War Doctor
"how do you know? maybe I've changed!"
I love this line so much 🤣🤣
"Today I honour the victims first [...] all the people who died because of my mercy."
You know, I think that was quite an insight the Doctor had gotten there. He was *right*. But then of course Amy had to come with her rather warped morality. Letting a war criminal be killed is *not* the same as those war crimes. In fact, it's justice.
but two wrongs don't make a right. You can say that it's justified and fair but at the end of the day it's still murder and no amount of justification will change that. And that's the point of this scene. The doctor wouldn't be the doctor if he killed that man because not only does the doctor not kill but he tries to save as many lives as possible.
Yeah, well, Amy’s a murderer already, so…HYPOCRITE!
@@alecbormia4523 I morally agree with you but the Doctor has both let people die and killed people himself on several occasions. Example from classic the Three Doctors he killed the bad guy by having matter and antimatter contact each other. In nuWho 10 killed the leader of the bad guys in his debut episode saying "No second chances."
@@theplaguegamer6216 the doctor isn’t and never was (at least in new who haven’t watched classic) a hero. They’re someone who tries their hardest to live up to proper morals hero’s use but often times fails.
“Good men don’t need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many” -11th doctor.
I'm on doctors side
1:06 I love that The Master got a mention from the Eleventh Doctor. I would've to have seen The Master in an Eleventh Doctor story.
I miss Amy so much...
Best companion (in my eyes)
Same. Though, she now has her own action movie which is ironically about being an assassin with guns.
Sadly, it feels like a flop in the making.
I absolutely love how this episode is absolutely against condoning capital punishment.
This show (and this scene in particular) has done so much more than I ever thought it would for helping me stay strong in the morality that the doctor and his companions try to live by, which given the year that we just had seems like a more and more significant accomplishment everyday. Hopefully that abhorrence of violence never has to be tested in real life but in any case that's one thing I hope they never change about this show. "We can't be like them. We have to be better than them."
I love this and when 10 slips in “Waters of Mars”. Those little moments where the Doctor realizes how much power he has, and how much he needs a companion to keep that in check.
One of my favorite episodes from the Matt Smith's era. I just love the plot twists and the whole tense atmosphere.
"See, this is what happens when you travel alone for too long." That line always gets me. As a person who deals with depression and loneliness. It always makes me think about what I've become inside from my own "travelling alone for too long."
Re: The Moment sitting with the War Doctor, and 11 and 12 were there too, in the dungeon.....
11: "For once I would like to know where I am going..."
12: "No. You really wouldnt."
The Moment (Bad Wolf form): "They are what you become if you destroy Galifrey ...The man who regrets, and the man who forgets..."
War Doctor: ".....No....."
11: "No?"
War Doctor: "Just.......No!"
12: laughing
11: "is something funny? Did I miss a funny thing?"
12: "I just realized, this is what Im like when Im alone"
Moments come and we must decide. Moments pass, but their scars remain. We have all eternity to regret, haunted by visons we will not forget. Hoping against times accursed flow we might live a moment again.....and spare joys passing, where all that could bring happiness dies.
Some know pain from metaphor and romanticized longings......the unlucky few know its constant presence. The mere memories of being not .....this..... when even smiling hurts are an aching reminder not of petty lost conquest and the pity that brings.......but of losing a piece of ones self, of having no mouth, and needing to scream....
I just love the venom in Smith's voice when he says my mercy. Kind of scary. Hurry up and give us the Valeyard already.
Has anyone else noticed that when the Doctor puts on the badge it changes position?
I knew that voice belonged to Ben Browder.
I now know the reason why they rip hunter like the old West in legends of tomorrow.
Awesome Ben Browder on Doctor Who
“MAKE THE FOUNDATION OF THIS SOCIETY, A MAN WHO NEVER WOULD” the tenth doctor
I initially didn't like this episode, but after watching it a couple of time it grew on me and now it's one of my favorites
Is that the same outfit Amy wears in The Time of The Doctor at the end before Matt regenerates???
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best line ever "Everyone who isn't an American, drop your gun!"
"We can't be like him, we have to be better than him" I think about this line a lot
that's egotistical self righteous thinking. that's called being on your high horse while the bodies pile up. you have to provide an effective alternative. also, lex and superman had an interesting convo about this. lex got superman to admit that he never killed lex because of his need to be a hero. supes cared nothing for innocent lives being killed when he'd let the villains live to escape, only to be able to swoop in a 'save' the day again and again.
@@TheEasilyBeatable A man who tortured people for the purposes of ending a war in which millions were dying, don't forget that part. He wasn't torturing them for the evulz. Jex wasn't evil, he was just ruthless, but his intentions were good.
Time Lord Victorious
“Anyone who isn’t an american, DROP YOUR GUN” possibly the best line ever HAHAH
And the fact that it came from John Chriton himself too. He had his share alien encounters John has....
“When did killing someone become an option.”
... like a long time ago
please upload the clip with Susan the Horse! That was a great funny moment! XD
OK, this may not mean much to anyone, but my favorite television show is Farscape, and I had finished rewatching that years later thanks to DVD, and I thought how I'd never see anything quite like that again, and lo and behold, my friend gets me into Doctor Who, which fills in that hole in my heart. I finished Eccleston's run, Tennant's, and caught up with Matt Smith just as he was entering Series 7.
For anyone whose watched Farscape knows that Ben Browder played John Crichton, the main character in the show, and so I was really super excited for this episode because Browder had been cast in this episode as Marshall Issac. With that, the end of the scene was sort of a passing of the torch for me, spiritually speaking in a sense as favorite show to favorite show since Farscape got cancelled, and never got a proper season five like it was supposed to.
I cried when I saw Browder die. This brought back so many memories of Farscape, and without spoiling too much, this isn't his first death scene, so it was even more of a gut punch. I really hope Browder can come back again, or get his dream of getting Farscape off the ground again for a sequel series.
So, this is one of my absolute favorite Doctor Who moments.
"You are a good man but you forget it sometimes"
I love Rory's hair in series 7! it's so suave!
The marshall, Issac, he plays cameron michel on stargate SG1 and the main character on farscape. So far I know of him in three Sci Fi programs, the two I named and doctor who. #welcomebackmichel
and claudia black was also in SG1 and farscape maybe she will make an appearance in dr who?
3:38 the badge changes position in the next frame. what sorcery is this!?!?!?
I know there are some of y'all who think the Doctor was in the right and Amy should have let him do what he was doing. That by Amy stopping him, more innocents die, but this is the Doctor we are talking about. This isn't about saving the bad guy, it's saving the Doctor--from himself, his actions, his choices. At the end of the day, how do you think the Doctor would feel about what he had done? He's a murderer in his own mind, something he tries to make up for but could never forgive himself. He would regret what he had done because he hadn't tried another way. People died, yes, but the Doctor didn't execute a man with his own hands. He maintained one of the few standards he holds himself to, and he re-learned why mercy was a thing he treasured so much. It was for his companions, the ones who stop it from going too far and losing himself. It was for those who looked up to him, people who saw a savior not an executioner. He doesn't hold himself to any high level, and he doesn't see himself as a hero, but his companions do. He couldn't afford for them to see him how he sees himself. They see things differently, the universe and him, and he sees through them. He gets to see himself as better man than he believes he is, and he can't lose that. He needs to be reminded to be the Doctor, the hero they see him as because they're all he has left.
This is not mercy. The Doctor's morality is questionable. It is not wrong to punish a criminal. In fact, it would be a lack of mercy to not punish a criminal.
Let's keep in mind who the Doctor is. As has been said before he's not a good man. He holds control over himself but if he let go of that control he could become worse than anything he's faced. Mercy isn't something for the Doctor's foes it's to stop him from turning and establishing an oppressive dictatorship throughout all time and space something he has the ability and even motivation to do. Yes the bad people would be gone but you'd have no freedom at all and nor would anyone else. It'd make the cybermen look kind.
@@wea1117 we'd have no freedom at all if we couldn't murder torture or rape people. where's the fun in life with out a little bit of the old ultra violence. i can feel the oppression already. what's to stop them from criminalizing breathing bad breath on someone or accidentally bumping into some one as a personal attack punishable by death. the lines are extremely blurry. lol better to keep the corporations and pedos running everything
@Jerrica Benton In your own remark you displayed why this is so wrong. You started off with Murderers and Rapists being stopped and ended with people who make money. Where do your later two end? Is anyone who's ever sold anything worthy of being murdered to stop the potential for evil corporations from arising? Should he kill anyone who's experienced a sexual urge towards a particularly well developed 16 year old? How should he even determine what a Paedophile is? A human mind and body doesn't finish developing until in the mid 20's. Is having sex with a 22 year old worthy of death? Should the age be upto the Government? But wasn't the reason why the Doctor should rule this benevolent dictatorship because governments are evil? And does that mean that it's fine having sex with 12 year olds like the Vatican's policy was up until recently?
EasilyBeatable no
This one scene shows how deep a character the doctor is
0:10 god the woman between Rory and Amy looks like river to me
I’m never going to unsee the fact that the badge changes positions on his jacket when he turns around.
0:25 Hey look, it's Cameron Mitchell.
No no no, that's John Crichton.
Me:Hmm... That thing looks like some sort of Terminator cowboy.
~The word "Terminate" appears on screen.
Me:O_o Some how I'm surprised and not surprised at the same time.
That's what Doctor Who does to you.
The Doctor should have let Kahler-Tek kill Jex, Amy would have no idea how many enemies The Doctor has repeatedly had to save the universe from with severe consequences. This is the one time it should have been easy for him to decide.
If only the BBC made writing this good and cared about story again.
1:19 How is giving someone judgement for destroying people's lives and causing mass destruction just for them to hide away being better then them by letting him live
Same way the death penalty is wrong
3:43 Teleporting badge lol
The issue is that Jex had to answer for his crimes. Sure, in the end, he died, but that's not the same thing. Amy gets all upset because "oh, well, how can you decide who's guilty?" Sweetie, someone has to decide that. Should we let war criminals go scott free because they've "repented" and now they're helping people? Not at all. Honestly, this episode sends a poor message because, in the end, the actual villain doesn't legitimately answer for what he's done. He dies, but it was done on his own terms rather that decided by an informed jury or judge.
@Taramafor Haikido So basically, fuck the legal system? Like, I'm not arguing for being judgmental against ordinary people. I'm arguing for making sure those who commit crimes (in Jex's case, I believe they were LITERAL war crimes) are held accountable. Sure, there are some who care enough who will feel awful and tortured because of what they did. But that's not everyone. And even if that's the case, that doesn't pardon them from society's punishment. Laws don't have a "Get Out of Jail Free" clause where, if you feel bad for what you did, you're let go. I'm sure there were Nazis who felt guilty for what they had done, but they were still held responsible and sentenced accordingly.
Theres a reason we have judges, juries, and lawyers separate from each other.
The Doctor tried to play all three. Even if we all KNOW he is guilty of it, it still doesnt change that one single person should not be allowed to decide all that at once.
@@connoraltier7081 I agree, but there was no group that was really unbiased. The town probably would have backed him up because he was helping them. If the Doctor could have, he probably would have brought him to the Judoon, but he didn't have access to the TARDIS. He was also made the sheriff eventually which actually literally made him the prime law enforcement of the town. What other choice was there?
3:45 The Doctor's Sherriff badge ends up on a different part of his jacket, what an easy continuity goof to spot.
Sometimes the Doctor has had enough of guns pointing at him so he points them instead.
"You're both good men, you just forget it sometimes"
Doctor: Get back over the line
Jex: Nah fam I'll beg for my life instead of letting you save it and then make a good man die to save me so the thing I created that is now a murderer can be sheriff instead.
This episode reminds me of that moment in the classics when the 4th Doctor had the chance to kill the Daleks. He was centimetres away. He could have ended it all saving millions upon millions of lives. But his mercy prevented him. And I think it's what makes the Doctor such a great character, because he is conflicted because of moments like this. He knows what will happen if they abuse their second chance. He knows that people could die. And that he is responsible for people's deaths. But he also treasures mercy. And that's what troubles him, because of his mercy, he is responsible for the death of many people.
That was not mercy. The morality of the doctor is questionable. It is not wrong to punish a criminal. It would actually be a lack of mercy to not punish a criminal
Amy’s one of my favorites. She knocks some real sense into the Doctor 🥼 here.
I jumped when he said "The Master's"
BEN BROWDER!
The best part of this is the Marshal Star jumping from his revere to his pocket while turning around and then back again
You can see how numb The Doctor is to death because he's seen so much of it. Which is why he needs a companion with him to remind him that some things he does are unjust and that he must stick to morals. But the guy still dies anyway so why does it matter?
My favorite part of the reaction to this scene is the irony of the response you can see in the comment section.
People say the Doctor was immediately proven right, since he showed mercy to Jex and Isaac died moments later. But they're missing the fact that Jex rejected the Doctor's mercy. He could have chosen to step back over the line, but he realized he was in the wrong and chose to face Tek and plead his case himself. The Doctor's mercy isn't what killed Isaac, Tek's _lack_ of mercy is. Even more poignant when, immediately after this scene, Tek follows up with a threat to massacre the town if Jex isn't turned over.
And the REAL irony comes from the parallels between Jex and the Doctor. Even though we know now, in a post-Day-of-the-Doctor world, that he actually saved his people, he still has the memory of ending the Time War himself through violence. And even setting that aside, the Doctor's hands are not bloodless, and he is more than aware of this, even if Jex isn't. Jex's atrocities are terrible, but he flouts them proudly to the Doctor without realizing who he's talking to. But every time the Doctor rears on him with his timeless wisdom and experience - and rage - he crumples. He knows what he did was wrong, and he wants to atone, but there hasn't been anyone qualified to give him _true_ mercy - until the Doctor.
Do the worst of our fellow people deserve mercy? Or second chances? That's not a question with a definitive, rigid, "true" correct answer. But the Doctor has made his choice, and he's a better man for it.
Such a compelling episode.
Is no one gonna mention how Matt Smith’s Doctor🥼briefly talks about the Master here? Shows that he’s still reeling from the End Of Time.
Is no one gonna mention??? Half the comments are about it...
He always gives them a choice, though he knows they will never take it. Because deep down, just once, he wants to be a healer rather then a killer.
Everyone who isn't an american, drop your guns! :D
What you trying to say u.s owns the world
Not
@@MrMegauk dude... it's a quote
@@MrMegauk bro did you watch the video?
When the doctor had some thing emotional after math he always have a huge hunch back
Just to the people saying the Doctor was right: Jex himself only did he hings that he did in order to end a war in which *millions* were dying in pain. If the Doctor is right to send Jex to his death, doesn't that mean that Jex was right to conduct his experiments too? Wasn't Jex honouring the victims of the war?
That point has been established in the very first episode. When he was about to cave Za's skull in with a rock in an attempt to protect his companions, Ian stopped him believing that helping Za would increase their chances of escape.
But but but JOHN CRICHTON!
Literally what I was about to comment just now
IcarusDawn Frell Yeah!
First 17 seconds be like, hammer back, hammer forward, hammer back, close up of doctor cocking the hammer after the sound was made when he drew it from the holster
Where is the lazy fanfiction writer who isn't coughing up a Farscape/Who crossover, hmm?