Harlan Ellison named it for a scene at the beginning which was rewritten by Dorothy Fontana, owing to budgetary reasons. On initial investigation of the planet, Spock and Kirk spot in the distance a series of old buildings suspended in the sky. Kirk remarks “There it sits, like a city on the edge of forever…”
@@historybuff66 Yeah, my comment up here is a mere joke. I've placed 'smiley' at the end. I had even read your comment beforehand; about the hot-head Harlan and his original draft. Thanks for that interesting piece of trivia. 👍
Arguably the best episode of Star Trek ever. Some make jokes about Shatner, but he is a very good actor. As is shown in this scene... I'd never seen this take. Thank you!
It has been my favorite episode of my favorite TV show for my whole life ever since it first aired when I was 9 in April of 1967. McCoy to Kirk: "Jim! Do you know what you've done!" Spock: "He knows, Doctor...he knows."
On the cusp of 2025, we can clink champagne glasses to appreciate that both actors - neither in the full bloom of youth when this was taped 57 years ago - are still with us. Two strong personalities and skilled artists. Two difficult temperaments. They have both performed and created so much memorable drama.
Thank you for posting this and other deleted scenes. I'm old enough to have watched the Star Trek before it was called the original series. That goes back to when it was the ONLY series.
OMG! Thank you for this wonderful Christmas gift! Like everyone else I never even knew these existed. And like everyone else I'd love to see that director's cut with the deleted scenes restored.
One problem I have with the original episode is that Edith didn't seem passionately in love as Kirk was. This deleted scene goes a long way toward correcting that impression. Unfortunately, episodes had to be just about 50 minutes long every time, so some scenes had to go if they made the episode too long.
@@kwebb121765 It made sense that Edith guarded her feelings more than James did, because he was such an enigma to her, yet he knew much about her -- eventually, too much to bear. Joan played the part, including how much she showed her love for him, perfectly.
The chemistry between these two seems to go beyond acting. Magical either way. This scene reminds of the movie classics, Bogie and Bacall, yet completely different characters. The dialogue and warmth just draws you in. Thank you for posting.
Wouldn't it be great to have this scene and the other deleted scene, digitally remastered and inserted to make a special edition version of this episode? That would be awesome.
I made a comment as to why I believe the scene needed to be cut, but your idea is terrific, which would allow the fans to see Harlan Ellison's vision of the story more completely. Heck, with AI, maybe we could create Ellison's original ending, which had Kirk failing to restrain McCoy, and Spock saying something to the effect of 'it's alright Jim, nobody ever gave up love to save the universe". Gene Roddenbury obviously was not going to destroy his TV character and series just to fulfill Ellison's romantic vision, which is why Kirk did the noble thing and placed the needs of the many over the needs of the few or the one!
Precisely, Steve. Even in just a small, seemingly insignificant scene like this, so many clues give explanations as to why. I have 3 other deleted scenes from "City On The Edge Of Forever" that I think you will love. Thank you for the excellent comments. 👍🖖
This should never have been deleted. It's incredible, and explains just how deeply Kirk fell for Edith Keeler. For all Kirk's many girlfriends, he truly loved Edith. And they were perfect together. It's awfully hard to fake that kind of chemistry.
So true, Patrick. We get to feel with both of them, and at the same time, Kirk, in the back of his mind, despite his love for Edith, knows, horrifyingly, that she must die. Thank you for your excellent comments. More to come. 👍🖖
I’d be interested to hear what she said. The episode got a mention in her autobiography and she couldn’t even remember her character’s name - and sneered at the story. A pity…. 🙁
@@suebursztynski2530 I remember she brought up the episode on the old Johnny Carson Show (I forget if she was promoting a TV show or book) and I thought she spoke of it fondly. It is filled with great performances by all involved and is one of my favorite episodes of all time - and this deleted scene is unforgettable.
This was obviously a last minute cut since there is music over it. This isn't added until the cut is finalized. Its removal likely required re-editing of the music.
It's fascinating, because up till now we've seen Kirk say he loved Edith, but there was never an indication that she felt AS deeply for HIM! I am reminded of a point that's always been vague: HOW would Kirk and Spock make the "jump back" to their own time? The Guardian had said that if Kirk and Spock "were successful" at fixing the timeline, then "they would be returned", which indeed happens, but how does it come about? The final scene in 1930 shows them wearing period clothes, but when they arrive back in their own time, they're back in their uniforms. It seems unlikely their clothing was restored "automatically", which means they had a chance to 'change back'. Did they have some way to 'signal' the Guardian that they were ready to return? This leads to the possibility that they could've brought Edith back with them, getting her properly 'out of history', rather than forcing her to die!
Thank you, Brandon, for your excellent comments. You will definitely want to subscribe if you love "The City On The Edge Of Forever", because I have 2 other deleted scenes from that episode that you are going to love. One day, if God allows, I will edit all of the deleted scenes into the original episode, but I would have to sell it on DVD, because, video platforms would never allow the entire episode online. Thank you, again. 👍🖖
@@doktorvonwer Thank you for these encouraging words. I will look into this, as a project - i.e. - DVD of all of these scenes edited back into the original episodes. 👍🖖
Merry Christmas. I had not known of this scene and wonder what Jim's response was to be. This was a very nice Christmas present to discover this morning. If you did a DVD release, I would join the chorus of those who would buy it.
Thank you, Vince! Yes, I have many, many more of these deleted scenes to upload, and I have 3 more deleted scenes from "The City On The Edge Of Forever." You are so very welcome. Thank you for the excellent and encouraging comments. 👍🖖
@ sounds like an excellent idea. if this was remastered into the episode, and sold as a single remastered episode, I would buy it, and I know tons of my friends would too. along with millions of other fans🖖🏻
This scene so clearly magnifies Kirk's pain when she's killed. This feels like a Harlan Ellison; deeply emotional irony, come to life. OMG, this should have stayed in the episode!
@@terrancesteere3459 It may be just personal preference, but I would have found other cuts equal to the same length...like Kirk and Spock goofing on the cop. I loved Spock's line, "Sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder," but I would have bagged that scene in deference to this deleted scene for one.
Yes, Mike. Stay tuned, because I have other deleted scenes from "The City On The Edge Of Forever." One of them is a small line from Dr. McCoy to Edith Keeler, and he tells her that she has the biggest eyes he's ever seen, and she smiles, and is so elegant, beautiful, and demure. I think many of these should have stayed in that amazing episode. Thank you for your comment. 👍🖖
Thank you. I have several more to upload. Apparently, they have an entire warehouse of footage from Star Trek: TOS. Gene Roddenberry's son, Eugene 'Rod' Roddenberry, and Michael and Denise Okuda had discovered them. Great comments. 👍🖖
In the episode as originally presented. Trimmed - at least parts of it, probably for syndication - but her nearly falling on the staircase has always been in the episode.
Wow this scene is terrific. Great find. It's kind of funny how her fall (or stumble) down the stairs was only associated with her possible death rather than falling in love. This scene obviously makes that a matter of fact. We never get that confirmation in this episode. Only Kirk ever admits to falling in love. This is Edith's admission. Maybe it's repetitive but it makes it "their" love story rather than just his love story.
Very excellent points, Starexplorers and Skymansfollies. There is a double meaning in the 'falling' that both are trying to express to the other. One is love, and the other is falling through time and space, but yet, both are in love with each other. Incredibly powerful acting and writing. Many more to come. Thank you for your highly excellent comments. 👍🖖
You are so welcome. Many more Deleted Star Trek TOS Scenes to come. By the time I'm finished uploading, God willing, it will be like being in a candy store. Thank you for the great comments. 👍🖖
Thank you, John. I have many more to upload, and will be uploading them, God willing, each day. When they are all uploaded, it will be like being in a Star Trek Candy Store. Thank you for your subscription and great comments. 👍🖖
In the original Ellison draft, Kirk actually lets Edith fall down the stairs (with non-fatal consequences), since at that point in the story he already knows that she’s fated to die. But in the finale, he is unable to bring himself to allow her death in the accident, which then falls to Spock. This is exactly reversed in the version that aired. Also, in the final draft script (not Ellison’s version) there is a bit of additional dialogue that identifies the author of the poem that Kirk cites with the theme of “let me help.” It’s a long, multiple-syllabic name that sounds vaguely Hawaiian, but Kirk tosses it off as easily and knowingly as we would identifying Willam Shakespeare. I don’t know if it was actually shot or not.
Thanks so much. This scene makes the rending of Kirk's heart at the end all the more clear and terrible. Remember, this is before the producers had decided to make him a Don Juan of outer space.
Nice work if you can get it, Bill. Smooching a young Joan Collins could not be unduly hazardous...💋💥🥰 And they are both still with us and still acting.
Thank you for posting. I believe there’s a lot of footage that didn’t make it due to time- as much as 15 minutes. I hope it’s preserved somewhere. Remember that Harlan Ellison’s original script was deemed too long, too elaborate and too expensive to produce. It went through extensive re-writes even after Ellison submitted his second draft, as he was contractually obligated to do.
You know given Joan Collins and William Shatner are both still alive, it would be nice to do something with them reprising their roles together in old age in the Nexis or something....
You are so very welcome, JohnEdward. I have many, many more deleted scenes to come. So, please subscribe and stay tuned. More treats are on the way! God bless you, Brother. 👍🖖
Thank you, Harvey. Yes, I have so many more to post, it is quite overwhelming for me. I have 3 more deleted scenes from "The City On The Edge Of Forever." One, in which, we see Edith and Dr. McCoy talking about the 'Clark Gable' movie, and McCoy says that Edith has the biggest eyes, and she beautifully smiles, and says thank you. 👍🖖
I completely understand why this choppy mess was cut, but it's heartbreaking that the idea itself was a cut. It could have been a much simpler exchange, like -- EDITH ... I've been up and down those stairs a thousand times. I could have broken my neck. KIRK Don't worry. I'll never let you... fall. EDITH Not even... for you? Kiss.
Finally someone who agrees with me. The script is all over the place, and the pauses are too long, just doesn't work. Unless I'm imagining it I recall that there was a scene kept in where she's says she's been up and down those stairs a thousand times, and could have broken her neck.
I agree as well. While it underlines an important plot point - Edith's equally strong feelings for Kirk - I feel it's too wordy and expository. Runs a bit afoul of the cardinal rule "show, don't tell".
Only speculation on my part, but ... perhaps Roddenberry cut this scene because it shows Kirk more willing to save Edith and change history. Remember, Ellison wanted Spock to put history back on course, Roddenberry said it had to be Kirk.
Wow, I thought there was nothing I have not seen regarding TOS, but this morning, I have found that to not be true. Thank you very much for showing this.
The writer, Harlan Ellison, won two awards for this Star Trek episode. He won the Writers Guild of America Award for best teleplay as well as the prestigious 1967 Hugo Award. Both well deserved. For, "The City on the Edge of Forever" is truly one of Star Trek's finest episodes.
The script of this scene is outstanding. We are now in 2024 but these words scripted in 1966 (or 1967) hold such elegance, imagery and romance. It hooks the viewer. Literally no screenwriter in 2024 writes like this.
A new one to me, and I've been watching Star trek since shortly after it began airing. A tender and warm scene between Edith and Kirk. It also adds clarity to the title of the episode. Thanks !!
This missing scene fills in the missing pieces and explains "forever" in the title of the episode. It should have been left in but by 1967 standards, it was "too hot" for "family" prime time TV.
That was a good scene it should have been used in the episode! Maybe someday they can incorporate it into another DVD collection what's the latest scenes put back in because I'm sure there's other deleted scenes are out there somewhere!🖖🏻
Yes, Steven. I completely agree. Magnificent acting by Bill and Joan. And yes, I have other deleted scenes that I will be uploading, hopefully, today. Thank you for the excellent comments. 👍🖖
@@bbordelon2 Yes, precisely. It will take me some time, as I still have many, many Star Trek TOS deleted scenes to post here, and I take care of my wife, but I will endeavor to start work on that project. Perhaps it would become like Billy Blackburn's tapes. 👍🖖
That's a new one on me. I saw all of the episodes when it was brand new back in 66-69. Fun series. This is by far my favorite and the best episode. Heard Harlan wasn't happy with how they changed it though. I never knew why. Finally was able to read the original story and it has major differences.
So good. Collectively such good writing. (I know they modified Harlon's original script, which I have seen depicted, but I think what aired was better.) Time to use digital technology and restore the scenes form TOS that were cut just to fit the time.
I think it's clear from the broadcast cut that they are in love with each other. Kirk looks at her with such concern after she slips on the stairs and the way she looks at him as he looks at her tells it all. In this deleted scene, it is a little strange that Kirk wouldn't understand what "fallen" means in the context of "already fallen for you" -- cool scene -- but I prefer the broadcast cut.
I'm in the minority here that agrees. I think it's a bit clunky with too many unnecessary beats and pauses with the emphasis on the multiple meanings of "fallen" a little ham-handed.
It's the scene that mentions "Forever" and provides meaning to the episode's title. Yes, they should have included it. But, alas, we are always victims of time constraints.
James Tiberius Kirk. The quintessential hound. Although it's not until The Wrath Of Khan that we see his offspring, it's amazing there was only ONE!😂😂 The man just could never keep his fly closed!! 😂😂😂. Which made him the hero of myself and every other adolescent sci-fi nerd! Keep on keepin' on Captain!
@jasonrodgers9063 Yep. But since Kirk didn't differentiate between species, I wonder what others would be like. Maybe like the offspring of Ego in Guardians Of The Galaxy?🤣
I have always loved this episode of ST..this scene was the most romantic of all..Shatner was a trained Shakespearean actor..his performances were so enjoyable 💖
Ol' Jim just can't seem to go on any space adventure without complicating things by thinking with the wrong head. It's really amazing that despite that, he was still a great starship captain!
This is Fantastic! I've never seen it. Now it finally makes sense why it's called "City on the Edge of Forever." Thanks for posting.
Harlan Ellison named it for a scene at the beginning which was rewritten by Dorothy Fontana, owing to budgetary reasons.
On initial investigation of the planet, Spock and Kirk spot in the distance a series of old buildings suspended in the sky. Kirk remarks “There it sits, like a city on the edge of forever…”
Very perceptive.
That's great!!!
Now I only need to figure out why there are the words "Edge" and "City" in the name of the episode. 🙂
@@subraxas I explained that here a few days ago.
@@historybuff66 Yeah, my comment up here is a mere joke. I've placed 'smiley' at the end.
I had even read your comment beforehand; about the hot-head Harlan and his original draft. Thanks for that interesting piece of trivia. 👍
Arguably the best episode of Star Trek ever. Some make jokes about Shatner, but he is a very good actor. As is shown in this scene...
I'd never seen this take. Thank you!
I agree. They say he's a "ham." But actors have to be that way. They have to be "exaggerated" without over-acting.
It has been my favorite episode of my favorite TV show for my whole life ever since it first aired when I was 9 in April of 1967.
McCoy to Kirk: "Jim! Do you know what you've done!" Spock: "He knows, Doctor...he knows."
@@robertmoraga1501 Nimoy's delivery of that line was perfect. Calmly stating a fact while showing just what it meant.
If you look him up, William Shatner started off as a Shakespearean actor on Broadway and was well regarded in an extremely difficult media.
Agreed. Shatner was a great actor. The parodies of him were always based on the exaggeration of his speech patterns...lol.
They should have left that in! Omg..provides MUCH more context!
Exactly!
Yes, I often wonder just how much continuity continuity editors leave on the cutting room floor...
Exactly
On the cusp of 2025, we can clink champagne glasses to appreciate that both actors - neither in the full bloom of youth when this was taped 57 years ago - are still with us.
Two strong personalities and skilled artists. Two difficult temperaments. They have both performed and created so much memorable drama.
Totally AGREE!!🎉🎉❤
Thank you for posting this and other deleted scenes. I'm old enough to have watched the Star Trek before it was called the original series. That goes back to when it was the ONLY series.
Yes, myself and with my father as well. 1966-1969. We would wear our star trek pyjamas!
Same, I was even alive when while it was still on tv, not as a rerun (just wasn't old enough to watch it until the early 70's).
You mean it's NOT the only series???
*TOS: The Only Series*
@@dahawk8574 Truth!!!
Over the years its come to be considered the Greatest Original Series episode of them all. This makes it even better.
This scene should never have been deleted-so much context here…
Gotta fit in my commercials!
This is what happens when NBC has to make room for a "Dippity-Doo" commercial...
Without Dippity Doo there would be no Gavin Newsome.
I almost choked. Didn't expect that laugh with my coffee! :)
Exactly!
Rusty-1-A.N.S. Without commercials, there would be NO Star Trek!!!! Business Business Business!!!!
OMG! Thank you for this wonderful Christmas gift! Like everyone else I never even knew these existed. And like everyone else I'd love to see that director's cut with the deleted scenes restored.
Watching this deleted clip on Christmas 2024. Wow...and thanks for the incredible gift! Looking forward to seeing the other "City" deleted scenes.
Been watching TOS since the first episode aired as a kid. I've never seen these out-takes before.
Me as well, Daffidavit. So glad you are enjoying them. Many more to be uploaded. Will try to upload a few today. Thank you for your comments. 👍🖖
So special I'm so glad I was able to see this
Although it was not used, the writing, acting and content of The Original Series is what made it capture our hearts and imagination.
Wow, what a great scene between Edith and Kirk.❤ It explains a lot to the storyline and shouldn't have been deleted.😢🖖
One problem I have with the original episode is that Edith didn't seem passionately in love as Kirk was. This deleted scene goes a long way toward correcting that impression. Unfortunately, episodes had to be just about 50 minutes long every time, so some scenes had to go if they made the episode too long.
@@kwebb121765 Unfortunately, you are correct.
Disagree. Glad they tightened it up and got rid of that standard Hollywood schmaltz.
@@kwebb121765 It made sense that Edith guarded her feelings more than James did, because he was such an enigma to her, yet he knew much about her -- eventually, too much to bear. Joan played the part, including how much she showed her love for him, perfectly.
@@markuswx1322 I guess no everyone is a romantic.
Been watching ST since it began, and this is the first time I've seen this. Thank you for sharing!
You are so very welcome! I'm so glad you are enjoying these.
The chemistry between these two seems to go beyond acting. Magical either way. This scene reminds of the movie classics, Bogie and Bacall, yet completely different characters.
The dialogue and warmth just draws you in.
Thank you for posting.
An apt comparison.
Wouldn't it be great to have this scene and the other deleted scene, digitally remastered and inserted to make a special edition version of this episode? That would be awesome.
I made a comment as to why I believe the scene needed to be cut, but your idea is terrific, which would allow the fans to see Harlan Ellison's vision of the story more completely. Heck, with AI, maybe we could create Ellison's original ending, which had Kirk failing to restrain McCoy, and Spock saying something to the effect of 'it's alright Jim, nobody ever gave up love to save the universe". Gene Roddenbury obviously was not going to destroy his TV character and series just to fulfill Ellison's romantic vision, which is why Kirk did the noble thing and placed the needs of the many over the needs of the few or the one!
It finally explains why, in the final version of the episode, we see Edith ascending the stairs wearing only one shoe. 👍🙂
Precisely, Steve. Even in just a small, seemingly insignificant scene like this, so many clues give explanations as to why. I have 3 other deleted scenes from "City On The Edge Of Forever" that I think you will love. Thank you for the excellent comments. 👍🖖
Wow! I’m about to cry. How could the best Star Trek episode of all time get even better?
There is still one more scene that I will upload, where Edith tells Kirk not to pull away. That will be coming soon. 👍🖖
Exactly! I could watch it over and over.. So we'll done and just draws you in.
This should never have been deleted. It's incredible, and explains just how deeply Kirk fell for Edith Keeler. For all Kirk's many girlfriends, he truly loved Edith. And they were perfect together. It's awfully hard to fake that kind of chemistry.
And it makes what Kirk had to not do to let Edith die as she was meant to even more heartbreaking
@@ragtowne This extra footage adds more weight to what Spock said to Kirk at the end of the scene.
Wish they'd kept that scene in. As another commenter stated it does a lot for showing how big the sacrifice was for Kirk at the end.
So true, Patrick. We get to feel with both of them, and at the same time, Kirk, in the back of his mind, despite his love for Edith, knows, horrifyingly, that she must die. Thank you for your excellent comments. More to come. 👍🖖
Wow. Sorry this was cut. It increases the impact of Ediths death.
agreed. But the subtly of what was edited, has it's own virtue. It worked. Kirk does confide to Spock that he had fallen in love, previously.
The chemistry between them is so strong; Joan Collins spoke about it recently when interviewed.
I’d be interested to hear what she said. The episode got a mention in her autobiography and she couldn’t even remember her character’s name - and sneered at the story. A pity…. 🙁
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I remember she brought up the episode on the old Johnny Carson Show (I forget if she was promoting a TV show or book) and I thought she spoke of it fondly. It is filled with great performances by all involved and is one of my favorite episodes of all time - and this deleted scene is unforgettable.
This was obviously a last minute cut since there is music over it. This isn't added until the cut is finalized. Its removal likely required re-editing of the music.
The look on Kirk's face as he comes down the stairs that remained in the episode now makes much more sense.
This scene is so much more powerful than the one used. The writing is beautiful and heartwarming. How does this scene not make the Final Cut?😢😮
It's fascinating, because up till now we've seen Kirk say he loved Edith, but there was never an indication that she felt AS deeply for HIM! I am reminded of a point that's always been vague: HOW would Kirk and Spock make the "jump back" to their own time? The Guardian had said that if Kirk and Spock "were successful" at fixing the timeline, then "they would be returned", which indeed happens, but how does it come about? The final scene in 1930 shows them wearing period clothes, but when they arrive back in their own time, they're back in their uniforms. It seems unlikely their clothing was restored "automatically", which means they had a chance to 'change back'. Did they have some way to 'signal' the Guardian that they were ready to return? This leads to the possibility that they could've brought Edith back with them, getting her properly 'out of history', rather than forcing her to die!
no because the minute Kirk's back on the ship she'd just be an annoyance & all the attraction would wear off
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I had no idea that anybody had a deleted scene from City...Forever. I've seen this probably literally 100 times over almost 60 years.
Thank you, Brandon, for your excellent comments. You will definitely want to subscribe if you love "The City On The Edge Of Forever", because I have 2 other deleted scenes from that episode that you are going to love. One day, if God allows, I will edit all of the deleted scenes into the original episode, but I would have to sell it on DVD, because, video platforms would never allow the entire episode online. Thank you, again. 👍🖖
@@megostartrekI’d buy it!
@@megostartrekI would too!
@@doktorvonwer Thank you for these encouraging words. I will look into this, as a project - i.e. - DVD of all of these scenes edited back into the original episodes. 👍🖖
Merry Christmas.
I had not known of this scene and wonder what Jim's response was to be. This was a very nice Christmas present to discover this morning.
If you did a DVD release, I would join the chorus of those who would buy it.
Ok…you need to show all deleted scenes. This is incredible ! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, Vince! Yes, I have many, many more of these deleted scenes to upload, and I have 3 more deleted scenes from "The City On The Edge Of Forever." You are so very welcome. Thank you for the excellent and encouraging comments. 👍🖖
magnificent! Paramont needs to Remaster the scene and put this into a directors cut of the episode. So beautiful.🎉
Or, Paramount can hire me, and I'll do it for them, for a small fee. (P.S. - That's for you Paramount people that I know watch my channel. 👍🖖
@ sounds like an excellent idea. if this was remastered into the episode, and sold as a single remastered episode, I would buy it, and I know tons of my friends would too. along with millions of other fans🖖🏻
@@LoveLife-yh7ke Absofreakinlutely!
Dear God! Being the ultimate Trekkie TOS, and this, my favorite episode, I have never seen this. Thank you for this most important post! :)
This scene so clearly magnifies Kirk's pain when she's killed. This feels like a Harlan Ellison; deeply emotional irony, come to life. OMG, this should have stayed in the episode!
The problem was they had very specific time allotments-needed room for commercials and that scene was long enough for 4 of them.
@@terrancesteere3459 It may be just personal preference, but I would have found other cuts equal to the same length...like Kirk and Spock goofing on the cop. I loved Spock's line, "Sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder," but I would have bagged that scene in deference to this deleted scene for one.
I thought I had seen EVERYTHING on TOS. Thank you for proving me wrong!!!
You are very welcome, and thank you for your highly excellent comments! 🖖
never get tired of this episode
This is my favorite episode of Star Trek.
Yes, Mike. Stay tuned, because I have other deleted scenes from "The City On The Edge Of Forever." One of them is a small line from Dr. McCoy to Edith Keeler, and he tells her that she has the biggest eyes he's ever seen, and she smiles, and is so elegant, beautiful, and demure. I think many of these should have stayed in that amazing episode. Thank you for your comment. 👍🖖
It is mine as well 😊.
My second is The Next Generation episode Inner Light .
Atta boy!
I never saw this scene and I have the episode on DVD !!! Shatter and Collins are both excellent in this scene !!! Thank you for posting this !!!
You are very welcome! 👍🖖
Wow. I've been wanting more TOS for over fifty years. Even two minutes from an episode I've seen dozens of times.....good find.
"He knows, Doctor. He knows."
When I first heard that line I burst into tears and my heart hurt, perhaps for the very first time in that way.
My favorite episode. This is special and should have been left in the final cut. Many thanks for posting.
This is incredible. How many more deleted scenes from Star Trek: TOS will surface?
Thank you. I have several more to upload. Apparently, they have an entire warehouse of footage from Star Trek: TOS. Gene Roddenberry's son, Eugene 'Rod' Roddenberry, and Michael and Denise Okuda had discovered them. Great comments. 👍🖖
Man! Where has this been for the last 60 years?
In the episode as originally presented. Trimmed - at least parts of it, probably for syndication - but her nearly falling on the staircase has always been in the episode.
Yes, this is the first time, I have
seen this deleted scene! One of
the best Star Trek episodes ever!!
WOW!!! You must have some connections...what else have you got in your treasure trove??? Thank you for sharing this!!!
👍😃❤
Wow this scene is terrific. Great find. It's kind of funny how her fall (or stumble) down the stairs was only associated with her possible death rather than falling in love. This scene obviously makes that a matter of fact. We never get that confirmation in this episode. Only Kirk ever admits to falling in love. This is Edith's admission. Maybe it's repetitive but it makes it "their" love story rather than just his love story.
Excellent point… and those lines about “forever”… haunting and beautiful
Very excellent points, Starexplorers and Skymansfollies. There is a double meaning in the 'falling' that both are trying to express to the other. One is love, and the other is falling through time and space, but yet, both are in love with each other. Incredibly powerful acting and writing. Many more to come. Thank you for your highly excellent comments. 👍🖖
Wow. Know TOS as good as anyone. Never seen this scene before. Thanks.
You are so welcome. Many more Deleted Star Trek TOS Scenes to come. By the time I'm finished uploading, God willing, it will be like being in a candy store. Thank you for the great comments. 👍🖖
Buddy, you have a new subscriber in me for this scene that I have NEVER seen! Thanks for this GREAT deleted scene!
Thank you, John. I have many more to upload, and will be uploading them, God willing, each day. When they are all uploaded, it will be like being in a Star Trek Candy Store. Thank you for your subscription and great comments. 👍🖖
In the original Ellison draft, Kirk actually lets Edith fall down the stairs (with non-fatal consequences), since at that point in the story he already knows that she’s fated to die. But in the finale, he is unable to bring himself to allow her death in the accident, which then falls to Spock. This is exactly reversed in the version that aired.
Also, in the final draft script (not Ellison’s version) there is a bit of additional dialogue that identifies the author of the poem that Kirk cites with the theme of “let me help.” It’s a long, multiple-syllabic name that sounds vaguely Hawaiian, but Kirk tosses it off as easily and knowingly as we would identifying Willam Shakespeare. I don’t know if it was actually shot or not.
Excellent acting for both. Great scene. Such a shame it was deleted.
Thanks so much. This scene makes the rending of Kirk's heart at the end all the more clear and terrible. Remember, this is before the producers had decided to make him a Don Juan of outer space.
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Not until this moment did I know about or see this seen. What a gift! Thank you and Merry Christmas!
This is great. My most favorite classic Star Trek episode
Nice work if you can get it, Bill. Smooching a young Joan Collins could not be unduly hazardous...💋💥🥰
And they are both still with us and still acting.
Thank you for posting. I believe there’s a lot of footage that didn’t make it due to time- as much as 15 minutes. I hope it’s preserved somewhere. Remember that Harlan Ellison’s original script was deemed too long, too elaborate and too expensive to produce. It went through extensive re-writes even after Ellison submitted his second draft, as he was contractually obligated to do.
When they started smooching like that, I had to cover my eyes!
I have never seen this deleted scene..Forever!!! Now it makes perfect sense when he says forever..wow i love it❤❤❤❤
You know given Joan Collins and William Shatner are both still alive, it would be nice to do something with them reprising their roles together in old age in the Nexis or something....
At the Starfleet Retirees home.
Brilliant idea!!! I hope they are reading this, and they can hire me. (Hint, hint...)... 👍🖖🏆
Or somehow come in contact with the Guardian who might be able to bend time…after all we have so many selves….right?
Incredible take, in my opinion, the top episode from any generation. Their connection was so powerful!
Thank You, thank you, thank you for this. This is my Christmas present for 2024. I've never seen this before today.
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Thank you so much! What an absolute treat!!!
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Wow! What a beautiful scene! I have never seen this before! Thank you for sharing! Do you have more?
Thank you, Harvey. Yes, I have so many more to post, it is quite overwhelming for me. I have 3 more deleted scenes from "The City On The Edge Of Forever." One, in which, we see Edith and Dr. McCoy talking about the 'Clark Gable' movie, and McCoy says that Edith has the biggest eyes, and she beautifully smiles, and says thank you. 👍🖖
I completely understand why this choppy mess was cut, but it's heartbreaking that the idea itself was a cut. It could have been a much simpler exchange, like --
EDITH
... I've been up and down those stairs a thousand times. I could have broken my neck.
KIRK
Don't worry. I'll never let you... fall.
EDITH
Not even... for you?
Kiss.
Finally someone who agrees with me. The script is all over the place, and the pauses are too long, just doesn't work. Unless I'm imagining it I recall that there was a scene kept in where she's says she's been up and down those stairs a thousand times, and could have broken her neck.
@@keyoguitar Yes. The first part is included. Everything before 'DELETED SCENE' is still there.
I agree as well. While it underlines an important plot point - Edith's equally strong feelings for Kirk - I feel it's too wordy and expository. Runs a bit afoul of the cardinal rule "show, don't tell".
Only speculation on my part, but ... perhaps Roddenberry cut this scene because it shows Kirk more willing to save Edith and change history. Remember, Ellison wanted Spock to put history back on course, Roddenberry said it had to be Kirk.
WOW! How did I not see this until now???
I had no clue..thank you ...I love it.
Wow, I thought there was nothing I have not seen regarding TOS, but this morning, I have found that to not be true. Thank you very much for showing this.
You are very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
The writer, Harlan Ellison, won two awards for this Star Trek episode. He won the Writers Guild of America Award for best teleplay as well as the prestigious 1967 Hugo Award. Both well deserved. For, "The City on the Edge of Forever" is truly one of Star Trek's finest episodes.
The finest of the original series.
And he disowned it for being too different from his original draft
This should have been included in the enhanced DVD.
The script of this scene is outstanding. We are now in 2024 but these words scripted in 1966 (or 1967) hold such elegance, imagery and romance. It hooks the viewer. Literally no screenwriter in 2024 writes like this.
Spock: I didn’t mean to eavesdrop. Kirk: of course not Spock. Another great insight to their relationship.
Kirk's reply: "What does 'eefdrops' mean? .... And why the heck did you spy on us?"
😀 😀 😀
Terrific! Something new but old to learn about my favorite show OAT.
A new one to me, and I've been watching Star trek since shortly after it began airing. A tender and warm scene between Edith and Kirk. It also adds clarity to the title of the episode. Thanks !!
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THE greatest Star Trek episode of all, of any series, of any iteration in the entire franchise.
You took the words right out of my mouth! Exactly.
This missing scene fills in the missing pieces and explains "forever" in the title of the episode. It should have been left in but by 1967 standards, it was "too hot" for "family" prime time TV.
damn, I can't believe in sixty years I've never seen this. I always wondered what they were getting at with the title, now I understand.
Actually no. The scene with the line “like a city on the edge of forever” was in Harlon’s original draft and never made it into production
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Such a great episode.
Ohhh, that hurt to look! Poor Kirk. He knew his time with her was about to end. SO sad.
Wow never saw this deleted scene
Loved it
First class Trek! Two fine actors at the top of their game! 👏👏
That was a good scene it should have been used in the episode! Maybe someday they can incorporate it into another DVD collection what's the latest scenes put back in because I'm sure there's other deleted scenes are out there somewhere!🖖🏻
Yes, Steven. I completely agree. Magnificent acting by Bill and Joan. And yes, I have other deleted scenes that I will be uploading, hopefully, today. Thank you for the excellent comments. 👍🖖
Agreed even though the scenes have aged badly in color, the insertion into the episode would be great for us completists!
@@bbordelon2 Yes, precisely. It will take me some time, as I still have many, many Star Trek TOS deleted scenes to post here, and I take care of my wife, but I will endeavor to start work on that project. Perhaps it would become like Billy Blackburn's tapes. 👍🖖
That's a new one on me. I saw all of the episodes when it was brand new back in 66-69. Fun series. This is by far my favorite and the best episode. Heard Harlan wasn't happy with how they changed it though. I never knew why. Finally was able to read the original story and it has major differences.
So good. Collectively such good writing. (I know they modified Harlon's original script, which I have seen depicted, but I think what aired was better.) Time to use digital technology and restore the scenes form TOS that were cut just to fit the time.
I think it's clear from the broadcast cut that they are in love with each other. Kirk looks at her with such concern after she slips on the stairs and the way she looks at him as he looks at her tells it all. In this deleted scene, it is a little strange that Kirk wouldn't understand what "fallen" means in the context of "already fallen for you" -- cool scene -- but I prefer the broadcast cut.
I'm in the minority here that agrees. I think it's a bit clunky with too many unnecessary beats and pauses with the emphasis on the multiple meanings of "fallen" a little ham-handed.
It drives home his sacrifice, and hers,to resolve the historical changes by McCoy.
Whenever I hear the word "portal", I think of this episode. 🙂
Should have kept it in. Without it, you never get the feeling that they are profoundly in love.
It's the scene that mentions "Forever" and provides meaning to the episode's title.
Yes, they should have included it. But, alas, we are always victims of time constraints.
Wish this was in the original episode
Greatest episode from TOS. I wish Shatner's idea had been used in Generations and had included Edith in Kirk's Nexus fantasy.
One my favourite series when growing up 60s and 70s in uk
EDITH: "Wait for me?"
KIRK: "Forever."
Such wonderful script writing, performance, and delivery. One gets chills. 🖖
THANKS so much for posting this! Where did you find it?
All of these Star Trek scenes are from The Roddenberry Vault Blu-Ray Set (2016 - Produced by Desilu Studios, Paramount, & CBS). 👍🖖
Thanks for sharing!
You are so very welcome!
wow never saw this before. Thank you! I like the forever part.
That really makes a difference. Good scene. Should have been included.
An absolutely great episode.
These two had great chemistry. They should reunite!
James Tiberius Kirk. The quintessential hound. Although it's not until The Wrath Of Khan that we see his offspring, it's amazing there was only ONE!😂😂 The man just could never keep his fly closed!! 😂😂😂. Which made him the hero of myself and every other adolescent sci-fi nerd! Keep on keepin' on Captain!
The only offspring we KNOW about! !!!
@jasonrodgers9063 Yep. But since Kirk didn't differentiate between species, I wonder what others would be like. Maybe like the offspring of Ego in Guardians Of The Galaxy?🤣
This was written by Harlan Ellison. I had the chance to meet him at a photo shoot.
He was already well known.
Well, the original version was written by him. What made it to TV was very different
I have always loved this episode of ST..this scene was the most romantic of all..Shatner was a trained Shakespearean actor..his performances were so enjoyable 💖
Excellent!
Ol' Jim just can't seem to go on any space adventure without complicating things by thinking with the wrong head. It's really amazing that despite that, he was still a great starship captain!