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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
    @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

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    • @user-oh7lr3ox1h
      @user-oh7lr3ox1h 6 месяцев назад

      Should have dropped, Adam's kept North.

  • @facepalm1329
    @facepalm1329 6 месяцев назад +9

    My only guess regarding North is that Gatland values side development over scraping results in a tournament where there isn't a great deal to play for. I'm quite looking forward to seeing what this centre partnership will do against France.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Fair point I just feel for where this squad is a win would be invaluable and really important for these young guys development

    • @facepalm1329
      @facepalm1329 6 месяцев назад +1

      True enough! I could do with seeing one too!!@@TheWelshSportsPodcast

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yes, same mate. I have no problem be in the plucky underdog but nothing is better than a big W😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @worldallycat
    @worldallycat 6 месяцев назад +3

    Im quite excited to see this lineup. Weve been forced to start to develop so i think Gatland has just gone all in for the remaining games. Or maybe hes injured?
    This podcast the best around for rugby btw.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Ahh that’s very kind of you to say, and I really do appreciate that. I love doing it and interacting with people like yourself in the comments.
      I’ve seen a few people say that this is a nothing game, so he’s trying out some new combinations which I can understand slightly, but for me this is a good opportunity for a much-needed win as I think that would be huge for this young teams development

  • @LeinsterExile
    @LeinsterExile 6 месяцев назад +2

    It's obvious that Gatland is thinking long term. Wales, England, Italy and even Scotland (who are not in a bad place right now) are all going to improve over the next year or so. Ireland are probably soing to maintain their current level. No idea what France is up to. I think the 25 and 26 6N will be a lot more even an affair!

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      I take your point, but Elias probably isn’t a long-term answer at hooker and North is someone that Gatland has said that he wants to keep in and around the team until the next World Cup so I don’t know.
      But having said that, he often gets the big decisions right, so I guess I’ll just back in for this one too, as I do think Roberts is a quality player

  • @gallois3
    @gallois3 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can’t help thinking the French will be relieved George isn’t playing. But Gats has made big calls in the past, which have played out well … Didn’t he drop O’Driscoll for that Lions test v. Australia? Tbh I’m more excited about seeing Joe Roberts than Watkin, who’s solid but not a game changer, never MOTM

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I guess we have to just back at Lj and as he often gets the big decisions right. And yes, he did drop O’Driscoll and that was proven to be a smart decision and I am interested to see Joe Roberts
      As for France, we could see a reaction which I certainly hope not. I just feel if we get on top of them in the first 20 minutes we could be within a real chance of winning

  • @lyndadavies7047
    @lyndadavies7047 6 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that Danty is not in the opposition he plays i think north plays also

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yes, possibly, I’m not too sure to be honest🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @isitwasit8756
    @isitwasit8756 6 месяцев назад +2

    As for north and other selection I just think it's gats giving opportunity to other players plus combinations and to see if they grasp opportunity with both hands

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I like Roberts personally. I just don’t understand that if he wanted to have a look at him why didn’t he give him an opportunity in the first game when North was injured

    • @isitwasit8756
      @isitwasit8756 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheWelshSportsPodcast yeah I know but this is gats after all .. expect the unexpected .. lots of mind games .. maybe fats using this to see how players react from the unexpected and also if they've been pulling up trees in training they've been given the nod so as a reward while others don't get complacent..

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah fair point I think Robbie should’ve been in the initial squad and started the first game instead of Watkin but I guess it’s going to be an interesting watch to see how these boys get on

    • @isitwasit8756
      @isitwasit8756 6 месяцев назад

      @@TheWelshSportsPodcast yeah and it's a kind of nothing to loose scenario cos of recent results and an opportunity for gats to see how players react with an opportunity to play one of best 4 teams in international rugby..

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah I guess so. Few people mention about the six day turnaround also which is something I didn’t think about to be honest.
      We will see 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @JamieP-fi5xi
    @JamieP-fi5xi 6 месяцев назад +3

    I wish gatland had taken north out before ireland would of made our job a hell of a lot easier ..... i kinde view gatland as the jose mourinho of rugby .... Former great but in decline unfortunately

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      That’s a really interesting comp. I really do hope you’re wrong because we’ve seen what it’s like when Gatland isn’t the coach and it’s a shambles. Really interesting point though 👌🏼

  • @richardrees3225
    @richardrees3225 6 месяцев назад +3

    Elias and Watkins in the squad after the last time . Jenkins at 6 never seen him play there ever... Think Gatland has lost the plot. 🤣 . But we will see. Don't get why he's dropped North.

  • @neilcooper9508
    @neilcooper9508 6 месяцев назад +1

    I personally think there is better people on your own doorstep wales iv never realy thourt much of garland tbh good luck for weekend Neil englang👍

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Neil. I think he’s been so good for us over the years. I don’t know who would replace him tbh
      Good luck to you too👍🏼

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    @andrewowen2549 6 месяцев назад +1

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    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

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    • @andrewowen2549
      @andrewowen2549 6 месяцев назад +1

      Whoop’s posted on wrong video! 😅 was obviously in between saved vids….. can’t believe Gatland has dropped North. Although I’m interested to see what young joe Roberts can do!!!

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      That’s ok mate. Was think then 😂
      Yeah same. Hopefully Roberts has a big game. Enjoy the new trainers mate 👍🏼😂

  • @garyt1119
    @garyt1119 6 месяцев назад +2

    TBH apart from his throw in, Elias is not bad. Maybe he is using a different thrower

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah I agree it’s just throwing in is such a big part of his job. Plus I think Fee has been great?

  • @countycricklewood
    @countycricklewood 6 месяцев назад +2

    North? Hasn’t done anything significant since Aussie Lions Tour

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      He’s been the only player who can make dominant carries this championship

  • @Omg-gf7li
    @Omg-gf7li 6 месяцев назад +1

    I like the back row , not unhappy about tomkins , I don't think he should of ever played for Wales in the first place, we are not Scotland, I can not understand why north has been dropped that's a big mistake, I thought he was our best back against Ireland, I can only assume he's got a niggle c'mon cymru

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah I hope it’s that. The only other thing I can think of is he wants to look at these other players in the centre and then bring North back for Italy but still to me makes no sense. Plus totally agree about Tompkins

  • @gregobroin7738
    @gregobroin7738 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why are you surprised? Gatland dropped BOD and later left Johnny Sexton out of the Lions squad. One of the greatest 10’s to ever play the game. A ludicrous decision. Expect more from WG.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      The BOD one worked out though I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Rhys78686
    @Rhys78686 6 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t understand Mann and Martin on the bench. If you want to bring them both on your going to take off at least one of Reffell and Wainwright who have been our best two players

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, that’s a fair point, that’s actually something I didn’t think about. Maybe he wants to get a look at Martin at 8 but yeah I’m not sure 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @shaun30-3-mg9zs
    @shaun30-3-mg9zs 6 месяцев назад +1

    H I Christian, Up until yesterday I thought we be in with a chance but not to have George North in the team is a bad move by Warren, I was toying with the idea of putting George on the bench and put him out in the last 30 or 25 mins by then the France team might be flagging a bit in the last 20-15 mins and to put out a fresh George North would be good for our game George dose play well against France. But now I'm not to sure of our chances this is not going to be good I hope i'm wrong. Lets wait and see, catch you soon Mate

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Hi Shaun yeah I like your George North on the bench plan. I could easily imagine him coming on for the last 20 minutes and causing lots of destruction but I just don’t get leaving him out completely.
      Let’s hope the Gats is right as he often is, and let’s hope for a Wales win 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🍻

  • @delboyd72
    @delboyd72 6 месяцев назад +2

    Gatland is experimenting without the experienced players . Clearly he’s rolling the dice , at hooker it’s a last opportunity to get the line out right . Taking out north and centres might be a breath of fresh air but France could exploit the novices at key positions . We will see what happens we are where we are .its exciting but also a worry .

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, I get the experimenting and trying some new combos which I don’t mind. I just think this game is so important for us to try and get a win and build some momentum going into Italy that maybe we should try experimenting in the summer or autumn
      I really hope Elias gets his line out sorted, because if he doesn’t, we have no chance at all. He’s had so many chances, but he’s yet to really grasp his opportunity consistently. We will see.

  • @entmeister-general415
    @entmeister-general415 6 месяцев назад +1

    Im surprised Gatland didn’t go with Teddy Williams at 6 he looked good in that cameo against Scotland in the wide channels I would have thought he would have been a better option there than Jenkins. I’ve heard some people saying North is being rested for Italy so maybe Gats is starting to panic about the wooden spoon. I hope we can see Anscombe in the Italy game he’s training with the squad so hopefully they call him up and give him a go

    • @spud7823
      @spud7823 6 месяцев назад +1

      Who's worried about the wooden spoon, getting the team balance right going forward is more important, last time we had a whitewash, followed by a Grand Slam, everyone needs to be patient while we build.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I like Teddy, unfortunately, for him second row is one of our deepest positions but I thought he might find himself on the bench.
      Yeah I’ve heard a few people see about Reston north of the Italy game which I I understand but they’ve just had a week off so I don’t know
      As for Anscombe, I agree with you, maybe not this six Nations, but the next block of international games, think he could be a difference maker for this young squad

  • @damienowens242
    @damienowens242 6 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe North is being kept for the Italy game. Gats won’t want to loose that one. Maybe in the back of his mind he’s expecting a loss against France. I hope not because we desperately need a win.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah agree with everything you’re saying mate. A few people have said about saving north for Italy. But we need to try and get a win now and put less pressure on us for next week because Italy are no slouches

  • @jackjones3919
    @jackjones3919 6 месяцев назад

    I agree North is the best option. But only a few years left on the clock. We need to trust the young guns to step up. They won’t be as good as someone with 100 caps now but if we don’t develop them now then we will be in the same position with inexperience in positions in a few years time.
    In regards to Elias. Don’t get it either haha

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I completely agree with what you’re saying, but when it comes to North. Gatland has already said he’s a player who is he’s being available for him in the next World Cup. Also, this is a crucial game for the squad moving forward a good win here. Puts us in a real good position to beat Italy and finish the tournament with two wins that would be a good achievement for where this squad was at the beginning of the six Nations.
      Having said that Scotland is very really made a wrong decision, so I guess I’ll just have to back him and I do think Joe Roberts is a real good player

    • @jackjones3919
      @jackjones3919 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah it’s a really fine balance. I think even if North is in the plans going forward ideally we have an heir and a spare in every position.
      I completely agree with you in regards to trying to pick up two wins this tournament. Even one win is crucial in developing confidence.
      Also picking up on your point about Gatland feeling under pressure. I would say he is the only coach that could do this job as he’s the only coach the Welsh public will be patient enough with for him to make development selections and not short term pressure decisions.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I completely agree I don’t think he’s under any pressure whatsoever. If we were to lose to Italy that may change but for now I think he’s got the grace and the patience of the Welsh public
      We all know that that can change quick though in Welsh rugby and maybe by his high standards he’s not happy with where the team is 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @uwanttono4012
    @uwanttono4012 6 месяцев назад +1

    Costelow, though not short of courage and determination is imho, not up to the mark at international level!! He needs to be seasoned in the URC/Premiership for another year or two.

    • @Omg-gf7li
      @Omg-gf7li 6 месяцев назад +1

      I agree, he's not an international 10

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah I agree with both of you, but unfortunately he is the best option we have at the moment. Interested to see that Anscombe has signed for Gloucester. Maybe he will come available again for Wales in the next international block

  • @clivesilver463
    @clivesilver463 6 месяцев назад

    Its really hard to understand this selection or part of it, lets start with Elias I saw a stat that showed he's got a just over 50 percent success rate that is alarming, and that will kill any side, think when he came on against Ireland he lost the first lineout, now I hope and pray he goes well he has at least 3 or 4 jumper options, but when you get a penalty then a 10 meter lineout when you lose that it soul destroying, momentum is everything in rugby, Dee must be fuming, it was not his fault in the scrum against Ireland, Porter was driving across all day long and not picked up by the ref another day it would be.
    North worked so hard against Ireland, and was one of the better backs Tomkins was in line to be dropped I don't
    understand it I just hope the new center partnership goes well.
    I think we're lucky France are playing poorly, a huge drop off in form and you could say they should have lost all three of their games, Wales at home must grab this chance we cannot be gutsy losers once more, this is why the selection is quite frankly crazy, if we had the Ireland starting 15 I would have gone with that and given ourselves a good chance, to drop North one of your best players and bring in a new center partnership, then bring in your worst hooker, and put your Captain to a alien position, why?.
    I hope this lineup works France are ripe for the taking, but its could go pear shaped quite quickly, hope I'm wrong and they take France to the cleaners, but the Welsh set up is making it very hard on ourselves.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah I’ve basically don’t think I could put it any better Clive. The whole momentum thing is so spot-on you only need to look back to the quarter-finals of the World Cup to see evidence of that.
      Tompkins was ready to be dropped I agree. We’re just not blessed with many quality inside centres at the moment. That’s what makes the whole Joe Hawkins thing, so infuriating but I do like Joe Roberts and think he has lots of potential so let’s just see how we go
      To your point I think France are possibly there for the taking. I just wish we kept north in the team 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @garmit61
    @garmit61 6 месяцев назад +1

    I don't understand the George North and Ryan Elias changes. They've been consistently good in lack lustre performances. I'm a fan of Josh Adams but he's been very poor in this 6 nations. I was st the NZ game when Rio Dyer scited that wonder try but I'm not convinced by him. He makes to nanny wrinf decisions in attack. However, Gatland got loads of of stick ffurf dripping Brian O Driscoll on a Lions tour and he brought home the series so maybe be had a trick up his sleeve that we can't comprehend. Nice preview as always. C'mon Cymru!

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks mate. Yeah your point about Brian O’Driscoll is a good one to be fair. I hope I missing something that Gatland isn’t.
      As for Rio Dyer I think he’s still raw, but I think he has an uncanny knack of slipping tackles and I think he has a bright future, if we can just get him in the ball more often
      Enjoy the game 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @bdazzler1
    @bdazzler1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Elias lack of ability to be consistent at line out is such a massive momentum killer in games.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah it’s proved time and time again. Let’s hope this game is the exception 😬

  • @garethdavies4515
    @garethdavies4515 6 месяцев назад +1

    Owen Watkins will offer nothing, crazy move.

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah interesting choice. I just think he wanted someone bigger than Tomkins to help roberts

  • @xxwales15xx33
    @xxwales15xx33 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm not impressed by Gatland for this line-up, hard to tell what he's trying to achieve here with these selections?

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah this one doesn’t make any sense to me. North has been pretty good this comp and Dee has been great so I have no idea 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @xxwales15xx33
      @xxwales15xx33 6 месяцев назад +1

      @TheWelshSportsPodcast It's not like Watkins and Elias are young and developing either...With Carre now leaving its gonna continue to get worse selection wise

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      Yeah you’re exactly right, I can understand. Robert is coming in but not Watkin so much. No, I am happy to see Tompkins dropped

  • @jamesstevenson3279
    @jamesstevenson3279 6 месяцев назад +3

    Jesus were dramatic in wales. This is a nothing game, gatland has to beat Italy so this is the game to find out about players. Dee, North and Tompkins will be back vs Italy.

    • @Omg-gf7li
      @Omg-gf7li 6 месяцев назад +1

      Not tomkins, he's as Welsh as the pope and we are not Scotland, he's not up to it anyway

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад

      I don’t think any game is a nothing game in the 6 nations. A win against France for the young team could be a real turn around of fortunes if we then go on the beat Italy next week 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @isitwasit8756
    @isitwasit8756 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hmm it's interesting to say the least...1st off the bat gatland or these young Welsh boys plus the differant combinations at least have no pressure on them cos at the end of the day it's still against France a squad packed with talent regardless of recent performances.. it's typical but they will with Shaun Edwards up their arse be up for this one against Wales.. I just hope Wales just go for it while playing smart in right areas.. really need an accurate kicking game from 10 aswell cos that's the only reason Wales lost 2nd half to eng.. as far as Welsh domestic game gats has said nothing wrong cos it is worse than shambolic.. a quick start by wales much needed and Welsh.crowd needs to be loud for this one .. put France under pressure from the off with crowd behind Wales and there's a chance to see if Wales have grown as a side since that 2nd half performance against scotland..

    • @TheWelshSportsPodcast
      @TheWelshSportsPodcast  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah no doubt we’ve grown since that first game and it’s great to see how the young players have developed. My only issue is leaving George out because I think he’s probably been our best attacker so far this competition