Tony Khan may be too much of a "mark" for his own good. The problem is that there are so many storylines which reek of "WCW Under Vince Russo" or "WCW Post-nWo" vibes, starting with the Moxley heel turn and his attempts to "take over" AEW. Or the fact that your tag team champions, the Young Bucks, only seem to defend their titles once every 4-5 months as if they were the second coming of Hall and Nash. Or the fact that MJF is attempting to mash up Rock "The Dwayne" Johnson (h/t Olli Davis from Wrestletalk for that name) with Hulk Hogan and spend more time making movies than actually performing in the ring. Or the fact that Bad Creative can't make up their minds as to whether MJF is the heel or Adam Cole is the face ... or vice versa ... and change their minds on a whim. Or the fact that Chris Jericho is still winning titles even though he seems to have misplaced whatever's left of his charisma either in Stamford or Winnipeg and the crowd couldn't care less. Or the fact that any Mercedes Mone appearance appears to be met with more silence than a library during finals week much like half of the WCW in their dying days (I swear, Britt Baker might be one of the few AEW women who get any reaction these days; maybe I'm missing something here). Sorry for the long comment, but it's getting harder and harder for me to want to invest my time in AEW as opposed to WWE. It's almost to the point where I want to just watch Dynamite and/or Collision just to see how much worse the dumpster fire is getting in Jacksonville.
He has taken the worst parts of WCW ECW WWE and mixed it with the worst parts of mid 2000 NJPW and sprinkled the worst bits of Lucha on top in a big bag of shit lol
i quit AEW after about 2 years. i figured out they didnt care about making things better. Tony is not a leader and got this job with zero experience in wrestling. He will not relenquish control. its his birthday party and he gets to choose the movie
I've had similar thoughts, there's no way you can watch the timecop clip and not come to the same conclusion as Joey. It actually makes the whole thing kinda dark, because a ton of the staff have to knowingly be taking advantage of Tony on purpose, and manipulating him.
Dude is also spread incredibly thin. He's no Vince McMahon, but Vince's entire life was WWE more or less, and he slept like two hours a night running just that. Now sure, part of that is that he's a control freak... I'm sure Tony isn't doing as much as Vince was, but still... compare that to Tony who is trying to run AEW and at the same time has a American football team, a European football team, and Ring of Honor that he's trying to juggle at the same time. One plate cannot hold that much food. What he's doing is pure lunacy.
This time last year, I felt 2024 was the year they had to turn it around. Their answer was to air the Brawl In footage in the spring, and it's been a significant decline since. The company won't go out of business, but their window to be a WCW-level competitor to WWE has closed. Just like TNA, they had their chance and in a few years no one will even be talking about Dynamite anymore.
TNA is doing better than ever and no it's not even WCW-level bcuz WCW had a monday night wars against WWE. AEW has been failing against a developmental brand of WWE, that's how low the bar was that they trying to push as some kind of a crowning achievement and at least TNA had a monday night wars against WWE. TNA's failure from 2010's era is a whole alot different than AEW failures that it's not even comparable.
@@Oldschool1943 That's Why I Loved Lucha Underground They Did Their Own Thing. They Didn't Try 2 Be The New WCW Or "Promotion Trying 2 Knock Down The WWE" They Just Was A TV Drama Series About Some Fictional Lucha Libre Fight Club In Boyle Heights California. AEW On Night 1 Tried 2 Be The New WCW And Takin Shots At The WWE. I'll Say It Was Them Releasing CmPunk And The Fact The WWE Is Now Vince McMahon Free So Fans Ran Back Over There And With CmPunk Back And The Rock's Apart Of The Bloodline Angle Also Hurt AEW.
You'd _think_ AEW would accidentally, by mistake, long-way-around arrive at a good wrestling show or story or plotline. But no! They have consistently been the worst show in professional wrestling for half a decade. Never change, All Elite, because you're clearly unable to.
@@bagser1 And that was probably because Punk seems to have a better grasp on what sells in professional wrestling than anyone associated with AEW at the moment.
I really wanted them to be good. I grew up watching the NWA in WCW and I did start watching WWF once the 90s started but just growing up in the Carolinas like all my friends and their parents and grandparents. That’s just what people watched so I was really happy when I found out someone that had enough money that was associated with Cody Rhodes was going to have pro wrestling on TBS and TNT again. I even knew that off the gate there were no storyline so I needed to give it a little bit of time so they can build some storylines up…….. honestly, you could just start watching AEW at any point and it would really feel like they were just starting three weeks before you started watching. Yes, they’ve had some good matches here and there but as a week to week wrestling program, it really is the company that you could imagine if what if the absolute neck beards that do nothing but judge on how good the high spots are if they created a wrestling company, AEW is what it would be. Tony is way too concerned with what Dave Meltzer thinks. I don’t think Tony has ever sat down and thought about the fact that during the Monday night war or during the golden age of the 80s when you got done watching wrestling the next day when you were talking about wrestling with your friends, you never once brought up Dave’s name or how many stars he gave a match . because that’s not why we watched it. If imaginary stars have become why you’re watching it there’s a problem.
It’s one man running the creative and he’s not into story telling but star ratings by a dirt sheet. Tony Khan ignores constructive criticism to the point he will not go on Busted Open SiriusXM if Bully Ray is on it. Over referee criticism. Bully has a student ref in WWE. Tony insults Disco Inferno and Eric Bischoff on Twitter. Tony Khan is arrogant and doesn’t listen. AEW is not changing
What was Bully Ray's specific criticism? The refs in AEW are awful and it doesn't help that guys like Moxley routinely bury them by spending 5 minutes outside the ring every match. That's one slow ten count.
In fairness to Tony Khan, who would take Disco Inferno seriously? But Bischoff, who had his faults but did have some successes in his career, at least has some credibility (it's not a lot of credibility, but it's more than most of the AEW braintrust). And are we going back to calling him Bubba Ray now that he's back on WWE/NXT television?
It’s going to end something like this. Shad or AEW will put out a statement saying Tony needs to step away and work on his health etc. and they’ll bring in someone to book and run the company that has experience
I think Tony needs to take a sabbatical at this point. Hand someone else the book and go get his head right cos if he keeps going the way he's going he's gonna end up in a rubber room wearing a very long sleeved jacket.
Even Cornette says that. If Tony keeps going at this rate, doing all the analytics stuff for his dad’s sports teams (which he isn’t doing a good job there either), the wrestling business will cause him to have a complete mental breakdown. You kind of see it already with how within a year he was disheveled and his behavior became erratic
@@JamesJohnson-tr1gu It's not just the workload (although he must be 100 hour work weeks all the time and that can't be healthy) the guy is getting in Twitter fights with his critics all the time. He doesn't seem to understand that once you put something out in the world you're going to get haters and there's nothing you can do about that.
Well that's the thing. He's had veterans in the industry offer to help him, but he refuses to get out of his own way. That's where I lost any and all sympathy for him.
honestly you wanna know the real reason why people are turning on AEW? it's because of Tony Khan especially the way how he's been acting and behaving for the past two years they don't wanna support a company that has a 6 year-old spoiled, bratty manchild whose incompetence and petty, childish, immature stubbornness and thickskinness and who is also supposed to be the owner and the so-called *"leader"* has driven many people away from his product despite their many faults you never saw Vince, Bischoff, Heyman and Dixie publicly act and behave this way that would push people away, especially pandering to *the sickos* instead of everyone so as long as Tony is still in charge there is no hope and future for that company
Yeah, he's a spoiled rich kid with no talent, who pushes his friends, wont listen to fans, hasn't got a clue what hes doing in the job he's given himself, is weird, has no self-awareness, is a sap and fire shots at people infinitely better at this than him. All very unlikeable traits and ones people cant respect. Could say its a virtue he's created AEW but he's just doing what he wants with it, its not for anybody but him. Its selfish not altruistic.
There's no way of saving this company. Absolutely nothing can really be done to salvage what Tony Kahn and The Bucks have done to AEW. Every time an ex-WWE talent came over in the beginning it was like "OK let's see what they can do here or what are they going to bring to the new talent", but as time went on, it was just a bunch of ex-WWE talent trying get attention from Vince by saying "Please pay me more and I'll come back home". And Vince, especially Triple H, just outright told them "No, you wanted to play this game, now you're going to play it until it's over over." Cody Rhodes and CM Punk leaving was the absolute end of AEW and now we're just watching a company stay on life support like Terry Schiavo and it's being juggled around on whos going to be the one that officially pulls the plug. 5 years ago, AEW did seem like something that could work, but as the memes and jokes went on, All Ego Wrestling became just that, a joke. The only people that are still taking it seriously are The Bucks, Tony, and Meltzer, and a handful of kool-aid drinkers who think this was ECW levels of good. If this company somehow manages to make it through 2025, its just going to be sad. Like watching a mentally challenged Make A Wish kid getting to book one match.
You guys hit the nail on the head. Yes they just got a big TV deal but that doesn’t mean they’re out of the woods. And you’re absolutely right it’s not like Tony was the one that started from nothing and came from nothing and became a billionaire that was his father. People that become billionaires don’t get that way by keep throwing millions of dollars into companies that aren’t really producing anything back. All it takes is for the head guy at Warner Brothers right now who is in hot water because he’s made so many band decisions for Warner Brothers for him to get fired and then whoever his replacement is is going to look at AEW and want to know why did we just give $150 million to accompany with a shrinking audience? Let’s be real AEW was popular at the beginning because in 2019 WWE was terrible and people wanted to watch anything and this was supposed to be the next WCW so they had about 18 months of it didn’t matter if it was good or bad, it could’ve been the worst pro wrestling ever and people would’ve loved it for the simple fact that it wasn’t WWE . It’s the same kind of logic on why Bryan Danielson became a top guy in WWE. Yes he’s a decent technical wrestler. By that I mean, he knows how to do wrestling moves just like everyone else from his generation. I’m not saying he’s bad and I’m not really gonna say he’s the best of the best an athletic guy that knows how to do wrestling moves. I really don’t think it was the fans loving him as much as it was the fans hating Roman at the time. Same thing with AEW. It wasn’t because AEW was that good. It’s because they just hated WWE that much. When you have an entire company where the owner and 90% of the workers have no idea what real wrestling psychology is and they think being a good worker just means you know how to do 683 wrestling moves and one match this is the result . So far every big name they have signed, their biggest night was their debut when they got to walk to the ring and cut the “AEW is the best wrestling promotion ever. “ promo, and then after that, they’re just stuck in matches for the sake of having matches. I get real sick of being told that you can’t do pro wrestling the way it was done in the 80s or 90s but how can they say that when nobody try to do it in over 25 years now? No, there aren’t more people watching wrestling today than there were back then. Yes you get really big crowds for big cards like wrestlemania but it’s not like the 90s where you had 10 million people watching pro wrestling a week and yes, we had VCR and DVR’s sometimes, but that’s just how impressive wrestling was then we did have the option to record and watch later but it was so good 10 million people were watching it as it happened live. Now companies get excited if they get 2 million people watching live.
My question is, how can you grow your audience when the guys that you push are abnormally too small for the main event roles that you're trying to slot them in? I like Darby and Garcia, but only in a cruiserweight division.
@DavidCarradinesBelt even personality wouldn't get them past the visual aspect of how how absurd it looks for a stick figure to go over a heavyweight on a consistent basis. They're built like crackheads.
For me a sign indicating Tony's dad wants to stop AEW would be when changes are made, bringing other people on board (behind the stage) in order to keep AEW alive
"Doing cocaine doesn't make you special needs?" - "It is if you try hard enough." This made me laugh out loud at work & now my coworkers are looking at me like I'm on the spectrum. They're probably right.
AEW consistently is bringing in very high ratings, between the 5* matches or the very well received reviews on Cagematch, in terms of quality of the product -- AEW has never been higher, and in the long run, the other numbers will follow *those* ratings. Having banger after banger is laying down the groundwork for more audience, more attendance, more Neilson's ratings, a lot of people being critical of AEW fail to see that.
Honestly what I think needs to happen is for Tony to start downsizing the venues then work his way back up to the bigger ones. AEW isn’t as marketable as some ppl in the IWC believe. Like when they are trying to go to do Grand Slam in Australia when they haven’t even tested the market over there yet unlike Wembley. WWE has a market in Australia due to one of their biggest female draws in Rhea Ripley. Tony needs to take a step back, get some new boots on ground that studied the business, can run the company while he’s away and then be able to open himself up to constructive criticism so they can start bringing back the market they had. Most folks reasons for watching AEW was for an alternative to WWE being shit with Vince losing his mind every day. Once he gets a healthy break from the pen, he could be refreshed again but that’s only if Tony is willing to accept the fact he can’t run things by himself in a wrestling promotion when he wants to actively compete. I know that if AEW succeeds, WWE should succeed cause healthy competition should breed better, quality shows.
What do you mean 2025 is make or break for aew?! He is the son of a billionaire!!! Regardless of how better or worse the ratings are, AeW was not going nowhere until Tony says it's not going nowhere well more importantly if his dad says.
I've been calling him Tony "Dixie" Khan for 2 years now. Doing the same shit as Dixie. Spend Papa Khan's money to bring in ex WWE talent and coddle them into a title within months. Wasting money on places you have no place running. If they scaled it down, instead of inflate their worth, they probably would be worth something. Look at TNA right now. They're not trying to compete with anyone. WWE is knocking on their door to borrow some talent. It helps to have some of the OGs of TNA backstage in prominent roles.
Tony kahn isnt a kid, he's 40. Tony isn't autistic, that's offensive to the ppl put who have legitimately severe autistic realitives (like me) and every single day of my families life is difficult. Tony kahn is prime example of nepotism and being a spoiled brat. Bad times create strong men, Strong men create good times, good times create weak men and weak men create bad times.
You’re the one who’s interpreted referring to autism as a pejorative. However, It is in fact a challenge that affects individuals in their daily lives, including but absolutely not limited to, their workplace. Yes, nepotism can be one of many factors causing Tony/AEW’s struggles with managing his company. It is possible for many things to be true at once. Next time I suggest you listen a little more closely to what is actually being said instead of just leaning into random platitudes.
You're right, Tony Khan is not a kid. The correct term for him is manchild! Sure it's all speculation and armchair psychology, but Tony displays more than enough characteristics of being neurodiverse. It's not a bad thing, but it can be a big hindrance for AEW when his behaviour and logic is so childish, stubborn, and aimless. I have Asperger's myself and I think it's interesting that more people are bringing it up, because to me it does stick out like a sore thumb at this point. Whether or not Tony is on the spectrum doesn't really matter, but again I can't blame anyone for asking.
@@WRESTLINGSOUP2010yep I saw the ridiculous "that" culture remark before RUclips took it away. I thought the first comment was wild until that one appeared. And from the same person. It's got to be a mental health thing.
Remember folks they released a game a month after the new Zelda and expected it to sell just as well.
Tony Khan may be too much of a "mark" for his own good. The problem is that there are so many storylines which reek of "WCW Under Vince Russo" or "WCW Post-nWo" vibes, starting with the Moxley heel turn and his attempts to "take over" AEW.
Or the fact that your tag team champions, the Young Bucks, only seem to defend their titles once every 4-5 months as if they were the second coming of Hall and Nash.
Or the fact that MJF is attempting to mash up Rock "The Dwayne" Johnson (h/t Olli Davis from Wrestletalk for that name) with Hulk Hogan and spend more time making movies than actually performing in the ring.
Or the fact that Bad Creative can't make up their minds as to whether MJF is the heel or Adam Cole is the face ... or vice versa ... and change their minds on a whim.
Or the fact that Chris Jericho is still winning titles even though he seems to have misplaced whatever's left of his charisma either in Stamford or Winnipeg and the crowd couldn't care less.
Or the fact that any Mercedes Mone appearance appears to be met with more silence than a library during finals week much like half of the WCW in their dying days (I swear, Britt Baker might be one of the few AEW women who get any reaction these days; maybe I'm missing something here).
Sorry for the long comment, but it's getting harder and harder for me to want to invest my time in AEW as opposed to WWE. It's almost to the point where I want to just watch Dynamite and/or Collision just to see how much worse the dumpster fire is getting in Jacksonville.
He has taken the worst parts of WCW ECW WWE and mixed it with the worst parts of mid 2000 NJPW and sprinkled the worst bits of Lucha on top in a big bag of shit lol
AEW has gone in decline faster than WCW. And they don’t have a corporation trying to self sabotage them like WCW did just amazing.
i quit AEW after about 2 years. i figured out they didnt care about making things better. Tony is not a leader and got this job with zero experience in wrestling. He will not relenquish control. its his birthday party and he gets to choose the movie
Same
I've had similar thoughts, there's no way you can watch the timecop clip and not come to the same conclusion as Joey.
It actually makes the whole thing kinda dark, because a ton of the staff have to knowingly be taking advantage of Tony on purpose, and manipulating him.
What clip are you referencing?
@Masa8204 ruclips.net/video/BpQ7xygQuO4/видео.htmlsi=gf_0YppTMSEgKvJU
Tony was determined to present a style of indy wrestling that would be enjoyed by a niche audience. Mission accomplished.
Dude is also spread incredibly thin. He's no Vince McMahon, but Vince's entire life was WWE more or less, and he slept like two hours a night running just that. Now sure, part of that is that he's a control freak... I'm sure Tony isn't doing as much as Vince was, but still... compare that to Tony who is trying to run AEW and at the same time has a American football team, a European football team, and Ring of Honor that he's trying to juggle at the same time. One plate cannot hold that much food. What he's doing is pure lunacy.
@@Jinzo9988 which is where his likely adderrall abuse comes into play. It’s why he behaves so erratically on social media, and at these media scrums
My God, I’m so glad somebody finally said it. Tony Khan is on the spectrum.
People have been saying for years…INCLUDING the people Joe said in this video that “won’t bring it up”
And on speed
This time last year, I felt 2024 was the year they had to turn it around. Their answer was to air the Brawl In footage in the spring, and it's been a significant decline since. The company won't go out of business, but their window to be a WCW-level competitor to WWE has closed. Just like TNA, they had their chance and in a few years no one will even be talking about Dynamite anymore.
TNA is doing better than ever and no it's not even WCW-level bcuz WCW had a monday night wars against WWE.
AEW has been failing against a developmental brand of WWE, that's how low the bar was that they trying to push as some kind of a crowning achievement and at least TNA had a monday night wars against WWE. TNA's failure from 2010's era is a whole alot different than AEW failures that it's not even comparable.
@@Oldschool1943 That's Why I Loved Lucha Underground They Did Their Own Thing. They Didn't Try 2 Be The New WCW Or "Promotion Trying 2 Knock Down The WWE" They Just Was A TV Drama Series About Some Fictional Lucha Libre Fight Club In Boyle Heights California. AEW On Night 1 Tried 2 Be The New WCW And Takin Shots At The WWE. I'll Say It Was Them Releasing CmPunk And The Fact The WWE Is Now Vince McMahon Free So Fans Ran Back Over There And With CmPunk Back And The Rock's Apart Of The Bloodline Angle Also Hurt AEW.
You'd _think_ AEW would accidentally, by mistake, long-way-around arrive at a good wrestling show or story or plotline. But no! They have consistently been the worst show in professional wrestling for half a decade. Never change, All Elite, because you're clearly unable to.
@@Mister_Phafanapolis Well they did have Punk Vs MJF, although given the way it was put together I'm pretty sure that was a Punk production.
@@bagser1 And that was probably because Punk seems to have a better grasp on what sells in professional wrestling than anyone associated with AEW at the moment.
I really wanted them to be good. I grew up watching the NWA in WCW and I did start watching WWF once the 90s started but just growing up in the Carolinas like all my friends and their parents and grandparents. That’s just what people watched so I was really happy when I found out someone that had enough money that was associated with Cody Rhodes was going to have pro wrestling on TBS and TNT again. I even knew that off the gate there were no storyline so I needed to give it a little bit of time so they can build some storylines up…….. honestly, you could just start watching AEW at any point and it would really feel like they were just starting three weeks before you started watching.
Yes, they’ve had some good matches here and there but as a week to week wrestling program, it really is the company that you could imagine if what if the absolute neck beards that do nothing but judge on how good the high spots are if they created a wrestling company, AEW is what it would be. Tony is way too concerned with what Dave Meltzer thinks.
I don’t think Tony has ever sat down and thought about the fact that during the Monday night war or during the golden age of the 80s when you got done watching wrestling the next day when you were talking about wrestling with your friends, you never once brought up Dave’s name or how many stars he gave a match . because that’s not why we watched it. If imaginary stars have become why you’re watching it there’s a problem.
It’s one man running the creative and he’s not into story telling but star ratings by a dirt sheet. Tony Khan ignores constructive criticism to the point he will not go on Busted Open SiriusXM if Bully Ray is on it. Over referee criticism. Bully has a student ref in WWE. Tony insults Disco Inferno and Eric Bischoff on Twitter. Tony Khan is arrogant and doesn’t listen. AEW is not changing
What was Bully Ray's specific criticism? The refs in AEW are awful and it doesn't help that guys like Moxley routinely bury them by spending 5 minutes outside the ring every match. That's one slow ten count.
In fairness to Tony Khan, who would take Disco Inferno seriously? But Bischoff, who had his faults but did have some successes in his career, at least has some credibility (it's not a lot of credibility, but it's more than most of the AEW braintrust).
And are we going back to calling him Bubba Ray now that he's back on WWE/NXT television?
It’s going to end something like this. Shad or AEW will put out a statement saying Tony needs to step away and work on his health etc. and they’ll bring in someone to book and run the company that has experience
If Tony “steps away” Shad will probably just cut his losses
I think he’ll try to salvage it, given that it’s not too far gone to fix. It’s bad, but it’s fixable, not too far gone yet
I think Tony needs to take a sabbatical at this point. Hand someone else the book and go get his head right cos if he keeps going the way he's going he's gonna end up in a rubber room wearing a very long sleeved jacket.
Even Cornette says that. If Tony keeps going at this rate, doing all the analytics stuff for his dad’s sports teams (which he isn’t doing a good job there either), the wrestling business will cause him to have a complete mental breakdown. You kind of see it already with how within a year he was disheveled and his behavior became erratic
@@JamesJohnson-tr1gu Tony khan is probably already on r/Arkham
Tony thinks he’s a genius like Vince McMahon and Paul Heyman. TK read every issue of the Wrestling Observer. Big brain TK
@@JamesJohnson-tr1gu It's not just the workload (although he must be 100 hour work weeks all the time and that can't be healthy) the guy is getting in Twitter fights with his critics all the time. He doesn't seem to understand that once you put something out in the world you're going to get haters and there's nothing you can do about that.
@@ALIAN18 Didn't Tony Khan actually write for WO back in the day? Or am I just misremembering a rumor from somewhere else on the internet?
TK needs therapy
And a haircut appropriate for his age.
Dr Shelby
And sleep 😴
AEW is worse than ever before right now.
Tony looks like Beaker from the Muppets 😂
Sheamus cousin
Tony khan did it too himself No excuses for the Snowman ⛄️⛄️⛄️ Be gone sickos
Well that's the thing. He's had veterans in the industry offer to help him, but he refuses to get out of his own way. That's where I lost any and all sympathy for him.
honestly you wanna know the real reason why people are turning on AEW? it's because of Tony Khan especially the way how he's been acting and behaving for the past two years
they don't wanna support a company that has a 6 year-old spoiled, bratty manchild whose incompetence and petty, childish, immature stubbornness and thickskinness and who is also supposed to be the owner and the so-called *"leader"* has driven many people away from his product
despite their many faults you never saw Vince, Bischoff, Heyman and Dixie publicly act and behave this way that would push people away, especially pandering to *the sickos* instead of everyone
so as long as Tony is still in charge there is no hope and future for that company
Yeah, he's a spoiled rich kid with no talent, who pushes his friends, wont listen to fans, hasn't got a clue what hes doing in the job he's given himself, is weird, has no self-awareness, is a sap and fire shots at people infinitely better at this than him. All very unlikeable traits and ones people cant respect. Could say its a virtue he's created AEW but he's just doing what he wants with it, its not for anybody but him. Its selfish not altruistic.
There's no way of saving this company. Absolutely nothing can really be done to salvage what Tony Kahn and The Bucks have done to AEW. Every time an ex-WWE talent came over in the beginning it was like "OK let's see what they can do here or what are they going to bring to the new talent", but as time went on, it was just a bunch of ex-WWE talent trying get attention from Vince by saying "Please pay me more and I'll come back home". And Vince, especially Triple H, just outright told them "No, you wanted to play this game, now you're going to play it until it's over over."
Cody Rhodes and CM Punk leaving was the absolute end of AEW and now we're just watching a company stay on life support like Terry Schiavo and it's being juggled around on whos going to be the one that officially pulls the plug. 5 years ago, AEW did seem like something that could work, but as the memes and jokes went on, All Ego Wrestling became just that, a joke. The only people that are still taking it seriously are The Bucks, Tony, and Meltzer, and a handful of kool-aid drinkers who think this was ECW levels of good.
If this company somehow manages to make it through 2025, its just going to be sad. Like watching a mentally challenged Make A Wish kid getting to book one match.
You guys hit the nail on the head. Yes they just got a big TV deal but that doesn’t mean they’re out of the woods. And you’re absolutely right it’s not like Tony was the one that started from nothing and came from nothing and became a billionaire that was his father.
People that become billionaires don’t get that way by keep throwing millions of dollars into companies that aren’t really producing anything back. All it takes is for the head guy at Warner Brothers right now who is in hot water because he’s made so many band decisions for Warner Brothers for him to get fired and then whoever his replacement is is going to look at AEW and want to know why did we just give $150 million to accompany with a shrinking audience?
Let’s be real AEW was popular at the beginning because in 2019 WWE was terrible and people wanted to watch anything and this was supposed to be the next WCW so they had about 18 months of it didn’t matter if it was good or bad, it could’ve been the worst pro wrestling ever and people would’ve loved it for the simple fact that it wasn’t WWE .
It’s the same kind of logic on why Bryan Danielson became a top guy in WWE. Yes he’s a decent technical wrestler. By that I mean, he knows how to do wrestling moves just like everyone else from his generation. I’m not saying he’s bad and I’m not really gonna say he’s the best of the best an athletic guy that knows how to do wrestling moves. I really don’t think it was the fans loving him as much as it was the fans hating Roman at the time. Same thing with AEW. It wasn’t because AEW was that good. It’s because they just hated WWE that much.
When you have an entire company where the owner and 90% of the workers have no idea what real wrestling psychology is and they think being a good worker just means you know how to do 683 wrestling moves and one match this is the result .
So far every big name they have signed, their biggest night was their debut when they got to walk to the ring and cut the “AEW is the best wrestling promotion ever. “ promo, and then after that, they’re just stuck in matches for the sake of having matches.
I get real sick of being told that you can’t do pro wrestling the way it was done in the 80s or 90s but how can they say that when nobody try to do it in over 25 years now? No, there aren’t more people watching wrestling today than there were back then. Yes you get really big crowds for big cards like wrestlemania but it’s not like the 90s where you had 10 million people watching pro wrestling a week and yes, we had VCR and DVR’s sometimes, but that’s just how impressive wrestling was then we did have the option to record and watch later but it was so good 10 million people were watching it as it happened live. Now companies get excited if they get 2 million people watching live.
He'll sell it before he settles for TNA size venues
I hope he dose sell then maybe we can get a good number 2 wrestling company
WHEN AEW folds, the fanbase are going to blame critics for never giving it a chance. I'm calling it now.
They can't handle criticism so everyone else is getting the blame instead.
@@al5306 they’ll look to blame everyone except themselves
My question is, how can you grow your audience when the guys that you push are abnormally too small for the main event roles that you're trying to slot them in? I like Darby and Garcia, but only in a cruiserweight division.
If they had personality outside whining/crying over who loves aew more would definitely help
@DavidCarradinesBelt even personality wouldn't get them past the visual aspect of how how absurd it looks for a stick figure to go over a heavyweight on a consistent basis. They're built like crackheads.
@@zomb60perfect summation with that last sentence.
For me a sign indicating Tony's dad wants to stop AEW would be when changes are made, bringing other people on board (behind the stage) in order to keep AEW alive
"Doing cocaine doesn't make you special needs?"
- "It is if you try hard enough."
This made me laugh out loud at work & now my coworkers are looking at me like I'm on the spectrum. They're probably right.
AEW consistently is bringing in very high ratings, between the 5* matches or the very well received reviews on Cagematch, in terms of quality of the product -- AEW has never been higher, and in the long run, the other numbers will follow *those* ratings. Having banger after banger is laying down the groundwork for more audience, more attendance, more Neilson's ratings, a lot of people being critical of AEW fail to see that.
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What people fail to realize is that The Khlown isnt a billionare. His Father is. Thats like sayin Shane McMahon is a billionare cause hes Vinces son
Honestly what I think needs to happen is for Tony to start downsizing the venues then work his way back up to the bigger ones. AEW isn’t as marketable as some ppl in the IWC believe. Like when they are trying to go to do Grand Slam in Australia when they haven’t even tested the market over there yet unlike Wembley. WWE has a market in Australia due to one of their biggest female draws in Rhea Ripley. Tony needs to take a step back, get some new boots on ground that studied the business, can run the company while he’s away and then be able to open himself up to constructive criticism so they can start bringing back the market they had. Most folks reasons for watching AEW was for an alternative to WWE being shit with Vince losing his mind every day. Once he gets a healthy break from the pen, he could be refreshed again but that’s only if Tony is willing to accept the fact he can’t run things by himself in a wrestling promotion when he wants to actively compete. I know that if AEW succeeds, WWE should succeed cause healthy competition should breed better, quality shows.
The point about his dad saying that is the same a daddy kohn doing the same things with the Jaguars. Both are train wrecks.
AEW will in no way change their ways. When TK has endless money to spend, there is no incentive for the company to try.
Spoiler alert it's break that's gonna happen it's a inevitability
What do you mean 2025 is make or break for aew?! He is the son of a billionaire!!! Regardless of how better or worse the ratings are, AeW was not going nowhere until Tony says it's not going nowhere well more importantly if his dad says.
The guy from The Fly 😂
If Shad really loved his son would he let him do this to himself??
Shad hates him as much as We Do.😂😂😂😂😂
2023 was a make or break year for AEW. Towards the end of that year, they broke
i know the exact moment when they broke. the dynamite when they showed the Cm Punk taco Jack shoot footage it was their finger poke of doom.
Aew is literally finished
I've been calling him Tony "Dixie" Khan for 2 years now. Doing the same shit as Dixie. Spend Papa Khan's money to bring in ex WWE talent and coddle them into a title within months. Wasting money on places you have no place running. If they scaled it down, instead of inflate their worth, they probably would be worth something. Look at TNA right now. They're not trying to compete with anyone. WWE is knocking on their door to borrow some talent. It helps to have some of the OGs of TNA backstage in prominent roles.
NOTHING breaking that #trustfundwrestling
Why does Tony Khan look like a coked up Scarface 🤣
Mercedes Mone is saving AEW!
Better yet, someone create a bumper that’s cheaper and better than Shad’s to put that endless patent money at risk, and his outlook changes instantly
Newman didn’t get eaten off a toilet that was the innkeeper from Planes Trains and Automobiles
realistically i don't see AEW lasting 3 or 4 years
They have already lasted 5 but god knows how
Tony kahn isnt a kid, he's 40. Tony isn't autistic, that's offensive to the ppl put who have legitimately severe autistic realitives (like me) and every single day of my families life is difficult. Tony kahn is prime example of nepotism and being a spoiled brat. Bad times create strong men, Strong men create good times, good times create weak men and weak men create bad times.
You’re the one who’s interpreted referring to autism as a pejorative. However, It is in fact a challenge that affects individuals in their daily lives, including but absolutely not limited to, their workplace.
Yes, nepotism can be one of many factors causing Tony/AEW’s struggles with managing his company. It is possible for many things to be true at once. Next time I suggest you listen a little more closely to what is actually being said instead of just leaning into random platitudes.
You're right, Tony Khan is not a kid. The correct term for him is manchild!
Sure it's all speculation and armchair psychology, but Tony displays more than enough characteristics of being neurodiverse. It's not a bad thing, but it can be a big hindrance for AEW when his behaviour and logic is so childish, stubborn, and aimless. I have Asperger's myself and I think it's interesting that more people are bringing it up, because to me it does stick out like a sore thumb at this point. Whether or not Tony is on the spectrum doesn't really matter, but again I can't blame anyone for asking.
Autism spectrum here: yeah, Tony is One Of Us
Tony is 40..he's a grown ass man, perhaps no longer a kid
He's still 13.
It's already Humpty Dumpty!
Its better than the FED so......
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Come on am not even a fed dude and even i know that is a load of crap
ALL THIS AEW BASHING IS COMING FROM WWE BOTS
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@ Rape culture is funny? Ok Predator.
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GET HELP.
@ Rapist!
@@WRESTLINGSOUP2010yep I saw the ridiculous "that" culture remark before RUclips took it away. I thought the first comment was wild until that one appeared. And from the same person. It's got to be a mental health thing.