Part 3: Warlock can only win the day by accepting his own mortality, while Thanos engages in his last battle of the age as he fights to win the favor of Death.
@@lukecox6317 That Thanos regularly forgets them. Including the two most important ones. Maxim 1: Pillage, THEN burn. Maxim 3: An ordinance technician at a dead run outranks EVERYBODY!
@@SageofStars true ... Though he does seem to, occasionally, remember that a sergeant in motion outranks a lieutenant who doesn't know what's going on ... If you substitute "Warlock" for sergeant and "Thanos" for lieutenant
@@lukecox6317 He certainly never forgets 30 or 37 Maxim 30: Trust goes a long way. The less you have, the further you'll go. Maxim 37: There is no 'Overkill', there is only 'open fire' and 'reload' BTW, for anyone reading these wondering, we're discussing the Maxims of Maximally Efficient Mercenaries, a 'mostly' fictional list of 77 rules to follow as a merc from the scifi webcomic comedy space opera(Think Babylon 5, but every other episode ends with a gag), called Schlock Mercenary. Don't be fooled by the big pile of poop that is the star of this one, BTW, it's got a lot of thoughts, and insights into how a future society, or group of societies, will work, even as they keep moving towards post-scarcity...and never quite getting there since something else becomes scarce as they get the last thing to be unlimited.
28:59 Dammit Lawson, I keep telling you this mansion has doors, and you and great bald one are allowed in here, so just knock and Jarvis will open it for you.
With the Thumbnail showing an angry Thanos lifting up Spider-Man and about to toss him violently onto the ground…well if that isn’t a perfect visual metaphor for how Marvel treats the character then I don’t know what is.
I described pre-Starlin WARLOCK to someone as "superhero comics plus Jesus Christ Superstar," and then Starlin is that multiplied by "drugs and issues." It's brilliant in its wild audacity.
I peruse the wikis, read my grant Morrison, and find enjoyment in reading the absurd and bizarre. Even I was genuinely surprised by the Logan’s run appearance.
Prophetic final words from Mar-Vell. His death might have even already been planned at that point. The tombstone says 1977, and the 1st Graphic Novel Death of Mar-Vell was 1982.
19:00 - 19:13 - A little too easy for me since I bought that comic book series back then. I remember reading and thinking, "Who are these people?" I was one of those kids back then who liked to buy comic books based on movies and television.
There's an interesting parallel between Warlock and Magus within the Marvel Universe. Namely, the Techno being Warlock who joins the New Mutants, only to be hunted by his "father," another Techno being by the name of Magus.
Thanos and Drax in the pages of Logan's Run. That's an odd choice. It's not even the only Marvel connection (besides being published by Marvel, of course). In the TV series the guy chasing Logan and his girlfriend was played by Nicholas Hammond, the first live-action Spider-Man (or second, depending on when the Japanese show was made).
Hickman? The guy who wrote Thanos out of character and regressed him into edgelord Mongul after the character arc from villain to wise antihero Jim Starlin gave him? I do agree that Hickman did some amazing stories but he did Thanos dirty. Starlin's Thanos would never be stupid enough to jump in front of God Doom to taunt him.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 And Hickman isn't even the worst butcher who messed up Thanos, Jason Aaron's utter schlock of an "origin retelling" Where he makes Thanos a generic "Serial Killer with voices in his head" when the entire point of the early relationship of Thanos and Death in the original is that Death WON'T speak to him. What utter hacks write comics these days
I knew the answer was Logan's Run 'cause while browsing Marvel trades on Amazon I found a book with a bunch of Thanos's early appearances and noticed the trade included an issue of Logan's Run. Always was mystified by that, now I know. Also, this is a great series you're doing. These fun, snarky, digestible videos are a great introduction to people who might've seen the movies and want to know more about them, or find a good place to start reading.
Again, if everything from GoTG Vol 3 getting delayed, the rewrite of Civil War to Endgame, to the aftermath of COVID-19 and the lockdown, what could have happened?
That last line really sounded familiar, went looking. Not shocking, sounds like JMS was a fan of it (a bit paraphrased) ruclips.net/video/DeNBJ5o-b7s/видео.html
I'm so glad they dropped the ''Thanos wants to give Death the gems'' angle from the MCU. There is no way a modern theatre-going audience is going to accept that.
It makes more sense than MCU!Thanos's speedbump objective. Which doesn't mean it's an easy sell without otherwise establishing things like an anthropomorphic personification of death.
Honestly, I beg to differ. A nihilistic madman who wants to wipe out all life because he's in love with a cosmic entity wouldn't be that difficult to sell to an audience as long as it's explained properly and done with something to ground it. Heck, you can pretty easily slide Death into the backstory and motivation the movies used for Thanos with only a few extra lines of dialog and a flashback or two in Endgame.
@@boobah5643 I see MCU Thanos as some one who thinks he is right and is willing to do what ever it takes to succeed and prove everyone that he is right. So really at end of day while he has point his methods are not actually solution which in turn gives him flaws and thus depth as villain. Make no mistake about, he is villain. Just one who really believes he is right and doesn't see himself as evil.
@Mecha82 I've expressed this elsewhere, but when your argument boils down to "too many people, so I'll kill a bunch," unless you commit to regular pruning, your solution is ineffective because what life does when you give it more resources is it uses those resources to make more life, faster.
Magus is such a cool concept. He reminds me of the Emperor from wh40k but shown entirely as a villain. I really hope Disney adapts this story for an Adam Warlock movie.
Thanos blasting away Grimm: "Away from me, you craggly gargoyle!"
Also Thanos: * gets turned into an actual gargoyle *
4:53
Thanos forgot the Maxims.
Maxim 29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less.
Man, what a Schlock! What would Tagon say about this?
@@lukecox6317 That Thanos regularly forgets them. Including the two most important ones.
Maxim 1: Pillage, THEN burn.
Maxim 3: An ordinance technician at a dead run outranks EVERYBODY!
@@SageofStars true ... Though he does seem to, occasionally, remember that a sergeant in motion outranks a lieutenant who doesn't know what's going on ... If you substitute "Warlock" for sergeant and "Thanos" for lieutenant
@@lukecox6317 He certainly never forgets 30 or 37
Maxim 30: Trust goes a long way. The less you have, the further you'll go.
Maxim 37: There is no 'Overkill', there is only 'open fire' and 'reload'
BTW, for anyone reading these wondering, we're discussing the Maxims of Maximally Efficient Mercenaries, a 'mostly' fictional list of 77 rules to follow as a merc from the scifi webcomic comedy space opera(Think Babylon 5, but every other episode ends with a gag), called Schlock Mercenary.
Don't be fooled by the big pile of poop that is the star of this one, BTW, it's got a lot of thoughts, and insights into how a future society, or group of societies, will work, even as they keep moving towards post-scarcity...and never quite getting there since something else becomes scarce as they get the last thing to be unlimited.
My personal favorite variation is "The enemy of my enemy is someone to whom I will not show my back."
The fact that Magus turned silver in that cocoon? Okay. The perm? I can't tell you why, but that's a bridge too far.
28:59
Dammit Lawson, I keep telling you this mansion has doors, and you and great bald one are allowed in here, so just knock and Jarvis will open it for you.
With the Thumbnail showing an angry Thanos lifting up Spider-Man and about to toss him violently onto the ground…well if that isn’t a perfect visual metaphor for how Marvel treats the character then I don’t know what is.
If I had a dollar every time I read someone saying that…
So many people whine about how Marvel treats Spider-Man, and yet…they don’t do anything about it. Just stop reading the book.
"There's still more monologuing to do"
Marvel ought to take that on as a tagline
Adam Warlock was one of those characters that I knew existed, but I'd never read any of the comics he was in, so this was very enlightening!
Marvel used to be so crazy and fun with their 'rope everything we have the license to into one universe' stuff.
Oh! So the story in Infinity Quest was a retelling of events scattered across various books and issues over many years.
I described pre-Starlin WARLOCK to someone as "superhero comics plus Jesus Christ Superstar," and then Starlin is that multiplied by "drugs and issues."
It's brilliant in its wild audacity.
I peruse the wikis, read my grant Morrison, and find enjoyment in reading the absurd and bizarre. Even I was genuinely surprised by the Logan’s run appearance.
Prophetic final words from Mar-Vell. His death might have even already been planned at that point. The tombstone says 1977, and the 1st Graphic Novel Death of Mar-Vell was 1982.
19:00 - 19:13 - A little too easy for me since I bought that comic book series back then. I remember reading and thinking, "Who are these people?" I was one of those kids back then who liked to buy comic books based on movies and television.
I like that issue of Two-In-One shows that The Thing is a Stephen King fan.
There's an interesting parallel between Warlock and Magus within the Marvel Universe. Namely, the Techno being Warlock who joins the New Mutants, only to be hunted by his "father," another Techno being by the name of Magus.
It's very obviously an intentional parallel; at the very least it's a more interesting take than merely undeading their namesakes.
Thanos and Drax in the pages of Logan's Run. That's an odd choice. It's not even the only Marvel connection (besides being published by Marvel, of course). In the TV series the guy chasing Logan and his girlfriend was played by Nicholas Hammond, the first live-action Spider-Man (or second, depending on when the Japanese show was made).
I find it interesting that if Starlin was writing today, he would be criticized the same way Jonathan Hickman is; writing for the omnibus.
Hickman? The guy who wrote Thanos out of character and regressed him into edgelord Mongul after the character arc from villain to wise antihero Jim Starlin gave him?
I do agree that Hickman did some amazing stories but he did Thanos dirty. Starlin's Thanos would never be stupid enough to jump in front of God Doom to taunt him.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 I was speaking about story length, not story quality or character accuracy.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 And Hickman isn't even the worst butcher who messed up Thanos, Jason Aaron's utter schlock of an "origin retelling" Where he makes Thanos a generic "Serial Killer with voices in his head" when the entire point of the early relationship of Thanos and Death in the original is that Death WON'T speak to him. What utter hacks write comics these days
Can't help but say, "NOT SO FAST, HE-MAN!" when I look to the bottom left of the screen.
I knew the answer was Logan's Run 'cause while browsing Marvel trades on Amazon I found a book with a bunch of Thanos's early appearances and noticed the trade included an issue of Logan's Run. Always was mystified by that, now I know.
Also, this is a great series you're doing. These fun, snarky, digestible videos are a great introduction to people who might've seen the movies and want to know more about them, or find a good place to start reading.
By "Drax's Daughter", I presume we are speaking of Moondragon?
To infinity... and beyond!
I thought the Mad God was Sheogorath. "CHEESE FOR EVERYONE!" 🧀🧀🧀
Again, if everything from GoTG Vol 3 getting delayed, the rewrite of Civil War to Endgame, to the aftermath of COVID-19 and the lockdown, what could have happened?
That last line really sounded familiar, went looking. Not shocking, sounds like JMS was a fan of it (a bit paraphrased) ruclips.net/video/DeNBJ5o-b7s/видео.html
Wait weren't the gardens on the Blue Area of the moon created by the Cotati during the contest between them and Kree organized by Skrulls?
18:28
Gunn did Warlock dirty.
Meh, he didn't have a ton of options after what was done to the story he was making after he was booted off the lot.
I'm so glad they dropped the ''Thanos wants to give Death the gems'' angle from the MCU. There is no way a modern theatre-going audience is going to accept that.
It makes more sense than MCU!Thanos's speedbump objective.
Which doesn't mean it's an easy sell without otherwise establishing things like an anthropomorphic personification of death.
Honestly, I beg to differ. A nihilistic madman who wants to wipe out all life because he's in love with a cosmic entity wouldn't be that difficult to sell to an audience as long as it's explained properly and done with something to ground it. Heck, you can pretty easily slide Death into the backstory and motivation the movies used for Thanos with only a few extra lines of dialog and a flashback or two in Endgame.
@@boobah5643 I see MCU Thanos as some one who thinks he is right and is willing to do what ever it takes to succeed and prove everyone that he is right. So really at end of day while he has point his methods are not actually solution which in turn gives him flaws and thus depth as villain. Make no mistake about, he is villain. Just one who really believes he is right and doesn't see himself as evil.
@Mecha82 I've expressed this elsewhere, but when your argument boils down to "too many people, so I'll kill a bunch," unless you commit to regular pruning, your solution is ineffective because what life does when you give it more resources is it uses those resources to make more life, faster.
Magus is such a cool concept. He reminds me of the Emperor from wh40k but shown entirely as a villain. I really hope Disney adapts this story for an Adam Warlock movie.
how does Magus remind you of the Emperor?
The Kree are Marvel's Imperium of Man.