The Secret To Making A Small Cam HIT HARD! (EFI FOXBODY)
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Graduated High School in 1992…had numerous Foxbody’s over the years. These were the coolest cars on the road in the 1990’s bar none.
I agree ☝️still some of my best memories from back in the day!
i can tell you they're still one of the coolest.
my 87 with a faded retro paintjob still turns heads and has people wanting to ask/talk about at any given stop(and its not pretty by any means) 👍
@@sidewaysfoxbody I agree bro! Hang onto it because I let all mine go. I am now into Jeeps and going to the Sandune‘s but someday I’m gonna buy me another Fox 🦊 body!
They still are one of the coolest mustang body styles around my opinion
Yeah I agree still are. I can't go anywhere without someone talking to me about the fox.
I've always tried and successfully made larger cams sound a lot tamer. One for sleeper status, and two for driveability
Just found your channell a few weeks ago. Even though I own a 2002 New Edge, I love the videos you put out for the Fox bodies. Got soo many of your vids to watch, should keep me busy for a while! Keep the great videos coming. Greetings from North Carolina.
Wow! The Artic Fox sounds beautiful! And man is that car CLEAN underneath! Andrew has a true survivor 👍
Killing it as always with the videos man.always get excited when I see a new video pop up
Thank mane 👌👌
Best Foxbody info out there..
That is a nice coupe. Have always loved the fox body and have owned a few. Bout time to try to get another one. Been too long. Great video. 👍👍👍
I think it’s time again 😎 thanks 🙏
Thanks for sharing this. I am going to try this on my hanging a few seconds before returning to idle cammed engine. It is kicking my butt!
Let us know if it helps. 🤞
Man these videos make me want a cam for my Thunderbird so bad .... but I need to keep saving for my aod rebuild.
Sounds like you’re doing the right thing 👌 that cam will definitely come in due time 😎
I feel that I just got my aod rebuilt locally. Luckily parts and install only cost me roughly 1500
Sounds real good! I bet its even better in person!
Sounds awesome! Just how a notch is supposed to sound. Now time for some heads and intake.
Yes!
I agree with you on opening up the exhaust flow. Also tail pipes will make a small cam sound better.
Really? Why is that. I’ve noticed that too but never understood why
The only bad thing is that I had to sell my 1989 FORD MUSTANG LX FASTBACK 4CYL EFI. Not that I wanted too. But I’m older and I wanted my Blazer to have a new EFI electronic feel injection system put on it new and updated so I get better fuel mileage and run better. And the bad thing is I miss my little Mustang I only got to drive it twice since I owned it. One thing about Ford mustang Fox body is a Ford motor company put the fuel pump relay underneath the center part of the dash up in the top. Hard as heck to get two to replace it. I hope everybody else finds out I read this before the hill and Jackson said some Cortana for the fuel pump relay. God bless you all one thing I still have a Ford Pinto‘s and Fox body Mustang’s right now both of them are worth a minute or worth a bar of gold. Including your Ford Maverick.
Absolutely love you guys !! Excellent
Man....Thats hitting just right. Love it
Brew2L and Andrew keeping those foxes chopping and blinding clean! Nice job once again Brew2L!
Thanks Jason 💯
Vid looks and sounds good!!
Thanks bud
Once I buy a clean fox, I need to bring it to you and write you a check to bring it to what I hoped for in high school. A B cam, with a chop, and AC and power steering. My HS dream car.Thanks for putting the videos out. Helps us believe 👍
I love it! Sounds like the perfect setup 👌
Sounds great!
i have a microsquirt ecu'd EFI 331 stroker with a pretty mild cam that i built. I run a howards 219/219 @50 lift, 110 lobe sep, .578 lift with 1.7 rockers. Skip White 190cc aluminum heads with 1.6 & 2.02 valves. 30 lb injectors. Long tube headers, Flat top DSS pistons. Pulls from 2k to 6k very well. in an OBS 92 F-150 with 5 speed manual transmission. I love it. I think it needs slapper bars.
That sounds pretty dang good.
Want to know how to smooth out the lope? Run a lot of timing advance at idle! Want more chop, run less idle timing! Easy peasy!
Beautiful car!
I got a monster cam in my turbo 11:1 ls deal with 4ft of exhaust and it still idles smooth as shit. With modern efi you can make some monster cams idle unbelievably smooth.
Car sounds great!!!
Good Video!!
Good stuff. Sure do appreciate the time you take to explain things on your videos. Learning a ton from your channel 👍🏼
I appreciate you watching 🙏
Sounds freaking awesome
Thanks brother!
I have a bone stock 95 5.0 5 speed convertible that was my mom's that passed away and the OEM exhaust had a nice note just super quiet I cut the stock muffs off and threw some single chamber fauxmasters from ebay they actually are pretty nice anyway it has a decent growl at a 2000rpm sweet spot at half throttle but as the revs climb it looses it's growl. I don't dare to do a cat delete that's one thing Maine is picky about but I'm going to at least gut the further back 2 for now all at some point. I wanna do engine upgrades but doing research that lil efi 302 takes a lot of mods to make any real power. Seems the cheapest way to get decent power is a budget turbo system... then pick away at mods like a cam intake n heads. I'm a long time Chevy guy so these little EFI 5.0s are new to me.
This will work with the Box Body Panthers with the 5.0l HO swaps as well....Probably even the F150's and whatever else had the same EFI setup as the Fox body's did.
Yes
I love that coupe! Buuuttttt. I’m ready to see the nitrous car against the calypso with the new engine!
That does need to happen 💯🤔
Hell yeah, got Andrews car talking the talk!
He loves it! Now it just needs to walk the walk 🤣
The Calypso has such a clean looking engine bay.
Thanks 🙏
Had a old block laying around my my first mustang 92 gt it was 60 over Holley street dominator intake 519/523 lift 230/236 c4 reverse manual valve body 373 gears never got to see its potential bc the fuel regulator was reading 6.5 to 7lbs but the gauge was actually way off was getting 20 lbs an fowling the plugs out almost instantly an filling the combustion chamber with gas . Sold the car an put that engine in a 89f250 4wd 5speed with factory fuel injection that motor woke up a ton held together over 3 years never rebuilt or touched in the bottom end. I'd think running right it would have cracked into the high 12s In the 92gt
Damn good video 👍
sounds good love the sound of flowmasters. i run this cam XE270HR-14 with GT40 heads and intake. it has a little lope. the exhaust makes a big differences.
Definitely exhaust is key 🔑 👍
What are your impressions of that XE270HR cam? You like it? Where is your peak power?
@@claytonstoolbox its a good cam i like it. it makes good power from 2500 to 5800 at my attitude. At lower attitude i can go to 6200. with the 114 lsa it kind of a sleeper cam.
Got a 10:1 331 with XE270hr cam with some aluminum china heads. Tuned on mega squirt and with a magnaflow straight through muffler it doesn’t chop it actually idles pretty steady at 900 rpm. Sounds deep but doesn’t chop unless you get the AFR pig rich like 11:1 but I run usually at 13.5-13.8 AFR. I also run my timing around 18 degrees idle
The truck in my orofile pic aports a 460/5 speed .. it has a small cam it has a choppy idle but it can be used with a stock converter so its not too radical but none the less choppy … when it warms up it smooths out a lil bit ..i have a 750 holley carb on it … im always experimenting like you are so i have a 850 proform carb and put it on .. when i got itball adjusted in it sounded like a nascar or a latemodel dirt track car but when i drove it it wasnt hard to tell it lost power and had trouble handling all that fuel … i live in new tazewell Tn home of the tazewell speedway ( roundy round dirt track) and one of my buddies who race there told me it introduced way more fuel into the cylinders and it made more compression and made the cam sound more radical … if im thinking right that leads me to believe i could keep the 750 on it n take the stock dish pistons out and add compression and the cam would hit way harder … the way i see it compression is compression wether your adding more fuel in the cylinders or more piston in the cylinder … im welcoming ppls input im up for a free education this is how i learn !!!
FWIW stock headers will make a cam chop a little harder. Bigger primaries will tone down the snap/pop of a mild cam.
I'm running a Lunati #50514 street/strip cam. Not too many ppl talk about these cams. Also have shortys, off road h pipe, into Flowmaster 40's. Could be more happier with sound and performance. 🔥 Great content keep up the good work!
should post videos of your fox. never heard of that cam
Please post specs of that lunati cam??
Sounds like my e303 was Victor Jr heads sounds good!!
Just play with it and see what happens 👌 Andrews notch be hittin some nie tones
Can’t go wrong with playing with it 🤣👌
I just put a Andsrson N412 in my 302 zspec t5 swap.. that little cam hits hard!!
Wow now that sounds sweet, the white spider is now talking some trash, great job guys.
just picked up an 88 GT ttop AOD what cam would you use with a speed density AOD? stock everything , Love the channel , keep posting more!!!
Love that notchback
Damn. That sign look good son!
Hell yeah! Thanks to you guys 🙏
Notch gang, Still want to get a Aero GT eventually
That can sounds good as hell
Could you make a series on fully revamping a fox and the options on making decent power? Just overall rebuilding a car from the ground up. Unless you already have something similar? Recently have become addicted to these and my friend wants to sell a 91’ GT hatchback for 7K.
Sounds so much better without those little mini mufflers 😁
Headers....2.5"-3" off road H-pipe....2.5"-3" mufflers of your choice....great sound.
Sounds great! Question… did you do egr delete? What happens to the evr and egr plugs?
I did delete the egr mine is just unplugged at the moment.
hello What plans did you use to build your garage? It seems simple.
Man I could have hooked him up with a nice little cam, I just so happened to have went with a little rowdier sounding cam because I have carb and I have a spare XE282HR cam laying around the bigger brother to the cam in your car, I decided to go with a cam with a 110lsa because it is a carbed setup on my 347 but it only has 5mins of run time on it, I can't stop upgrading the upgrades 🤣😂
Well damn! 😢
@@BREW2LFOXBODY hit me up if you decide that you want to go a little bigger with yours, it sounds sweet, watch a few videos on RUclips, you will fall in love with it, You know im local so I can meet you with it or drop it by the convenience store by your house so u can pick it up
@@BREW2LFOXBODY or if u need it in general
Hell Yeah!!!
Plz need ur help I have a 1993 lx 5 0 vortex supercharged running and driving fine until I took off the manifold Plenum to do the gaskets on the valve covers put everything back did NGK cold spark plugs and wires didn’t change the gasket on the plenum Car is running like crap now popping exhaust misfire breaking up in hierarchy did a smoke test no vacuum leak what to do
Timing is set. Tried all of this. Megasquirt makes it idle at atleast 1000. Auto tune works good but can't get the car to sound like that! And I have a built block and mild cam
Sounds down right mean! Love it. Wanna put a nice cam in my vert. It’s an 88 speed density still tho.
Bill you know you want to convert it 👀🤣 be a good winter project
I don’t have a computer to play with, but my heads flow 250 @ .500, 😢, 1-5/8” short/mid length headers, dual plane with 1” open spacer, 4200 lb bronco on 35s with limited slip front / rear, 3.73 gears, granny low 4 speed, it’s fun, pulls good, great for halling ass while rowing gears, great on fwy, great off road, front end lifts up a bit on hard launch
Hmmm 89 5.0 HO I did not have to do all that to make mine sound like a race car and hit hard. Stock motor timing gear set long tube headers that’s it no exhaust. Roughly 10 degrees. Car will snap your neck. Stock rear end and automatic tranny too did a cold start for a kid that has a super snake mustang he was very impressed on how it ran and throttle response. And keep your throttle body clean it helps tremendously
What size is your garage? Great video!
Just the other day I wind up running into the back of my son's car with my 95 turbo Mustang I was trying to drive the car up onto the ramps and the moment my TPS past 2% my Holley Terminator X switched over to the IAC hold position and I have it set at 30% and the Decay rate was at 6 seconds totally forgot that I needed to lower it some. So just picture a car with the front tires on a tarp and the back tires on asphalt now I have to get a front bumper cover and headlight header panel but hey it could have been worse I don't have a crash bar on the front and I could have damaged my intercooler at least I know now my proportioning valve isn't working properly lol....
I thought those "mufflers" looked suspiciously like 😺kats lmao🤣🤣🤣
Meow 🐱
Do you take the spout out when you change timing or do you leave it in when you turn the distributor
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fantastic video..thanks for the inspiration!!..im gonna put my engine together...I have Elderbrock Rpm heads they were refreshed...I have a f303 cam..do you think I will have clearance...NYC loves man!!
You “should” be okay but obviously measure your piston to valve clearance. Thanks for the love!
@@BREW2LFOXBODY 100 %..I will use one of your videos for that...thanks
There is something to it, and that thing is Timing. The EEC primarily uses the timing to control the idle, and then adjusts the IAV duty cycle.
By turning the throttle stop and opening the throttle blade, you force the EEC to adjust the ignition timing, and a little duty cycle, as it tries to get back to the target RPM.
Pull the spout and the sound should change if you want to experiment.
IAC, I fat fingered the V 😆
Sounds good. Don't care for Flowmasters. Paradox Performance Mufflers are the business, flow better than straight pipe. Sound awesome.
you should try cutting the back out of one side of a flowmaster hahaha i used to do that back in the flowmaster pandemic
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I have TFS Stage 1 cam..and lost the chop after a tune...same exhaust..is it a timing thing as well?
Where can I get your intake kit so I can put mine in the fender
I use to mess up..move the timming.adjust the idle..drive somewhere.....and the car won't start.. cause I put everything out of to lunch...
If you want to hear a really cool exhaust sound, set your timing 10 degress AFTER TDC. It is just for sound people, not telling you to drive your car this way.
bro i’ve been watching your videos for so long and it’s always helped me . but i currently found myself in a rut and my car hasn’t been on in the past week is there a number or social media i can text or call you at ? i’d really appreciate it
Love your content, just subscribed. I'm building an 88 GT vert, right now. What is the best cam, in your opinion, for 10:1 compression, and great airflow in/out?
Thanks brother! You can’t go wrong with the N-41 imo.
@@BREW2LFOXBODY Thank you!
Hi, I read in motortrend that the f303 cam will cause issues with gt40p heads. Specifically clearance issues. Do you know anything about that? I already bought the cam and am currently having my motor rebuilt to a 347. Setup is super
Not sure why that was said. Fairly common combo and a reletively small cam also. I've never had any problems with F303 cams yet.
I hope my e303 cam hits like that just getting it back together
Thing sounds sweet, I think that your base idle reset video called in sick because it wasn't there when you pointed to it 🤣😂🤣
Lmao I posted it up earlier in the video. Did it work the first time
@@BREW2LFOXBODY i just noticed that when you pointed at it in this video it was MIA 😂🤣 I wasn't trying to watch it because I have already seen it just noticed that It went in hiding when you pointed up to the ski , I played it twice to make sure before I said something so i wouldn't look to crazy anyway 🤣
@@BREW2LFOXBODY I didn't notice if the first one worked or not
What y’all think about stock e7s with a N41 ported explorer intake
When you adjust the throttle screw always unplug the tps sensor!! Remember a base idle reset is nothing more than setting the mechanical idle of the engine. Which means you unplug everything that could control idle. Like the iac, tps and spout. Those three things control idle. With all of those things out of the picture you set the idle screw to where the engine is barely idling on its own. Typically around 400-500rpm depending on camshaft. Shut the car off and plug everything back in and you're done.
@@edreynolds8721 if you ever dive into tuning you'll see why the .98v is a myth. Matthew leech has a really good video about setting the tps voltage. He shows in the tuning software where the voltage range for tps is very broad. The .98v is a good compromise but not necessary. Brew2l even mentions this in some of his videos. I'm just trying to make it easier for people to do the idle reset. I love brew2l videos on this stuff. He breaks it down for us laymens.
@@edreynolds8721 the reason you shouldn't turn the screw with the tps plugged in is because the ecu will try to counter what your doing because it thinks the engine is revving.
I went with Anderson n91. Hope it's hits a lick.
It’s definitely gonna knock 💪🔥
Which camp makes the most power NA motor
For a second there at the begging of the video I almost though you had a crown vic in the driveway.
👀🤣😂
I wish this would work on a 3rd Gen 5.7 HEMI with a 260 comp cam
Bruh, really making sure us dreamers can at least get the sound.
You got this 💪💯
Can also run 1.7/1.6RRs with some of those small cams
Will you have to do any tuning with the letter cams? Bout to invest in GT40 heads for 351w roller just tryna get some information on what cam for my car I should use
I also have AOD set up in my mustang
I need my bronco to sound like this
Man listen to my 67. It’s got a comp cams xe274 and with fitech 331ci AFR 185 I have another video with a mother thumper
Are you running a catch can setup on the calypso car?
No, it has gapless rings in it.
Love the fox body mustang love them! I'd go about it a bit better and easier..ls swap it and put a better engine and much better Cam in it. Problems solved cause let's face it the 302 was ok in the big hair 80's early 90's but don't hold a candle in this day and time.
The idle is all from the tight lobe separation angle . No so much from lift
We’re is the best place to get this cam
will that work on a mod motor?
It sounds good having problems with mine on a cold start shes about 7 800 RPM but as soon as she gets hot she jumps up to 11 to 12 and then it fluctuates but I'm still trying to trouble shoot that
Could be a bad coolant sensor ECT or ACT
I have a 96 roller block with a e303 cam, Holley 600 carb, performer intake, gt40 heads, high performance valve springs, shortys, h-pipe with no cats to mac mufflers & dump… it hits pretty good, but I was wondering if I could get more chop or tone out of it? Any suggestions?
Efi maybe, something like the sniper system since you've got the intake you do
1.7:1 rockers will give it a bit more. But the limit truly is the B cam
Is Andrew coming to Texas Worth you? If so is he bringing his fox?
He’s gotta work.. 😞
Stage 3 Trick Flow💪🏻 lol
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Want more chop, bad tune and mayb unplug vacumme line, there u go im almost .700 lift and my injection makes it nice and smooth, besides higher idle speed