My Respect to King William IV. The determination and tolerance he had, clinging on to life through pain and suffering so that he could ensure his niece ascended on his throne, is worth praising.
The greatest Achievement of her Uncle William IV was hanging on long enough for her to come of age . So her mum and her Boyfriend can;t take over the place .
He hung on with steely determination, like grim death itself. He could feel his life ebbing away, but he counted the days until his niece's 18th birthday. And then, he let go. 🤴 👑 👸🏻
He was determined to stay alive until Victoria turned 18 so "that woman," as he called the Duchess, wouldn't be regent. He made it, and then died three weeks later.
@@chooseyourpoison5105 I know like I said .Though her mother might not have been quite as bad as everybody thinks . I mean they did think he uncles were trying to kill her to get the crown . So Keeping her alive was a good thing . Even if it was only for selfish reasons .
@@aleximalmgren5301 Yeah I felt sorry for the Duchess of Kent. I mean, she had only just moved to England when Victoria's father died, and she found herself stuck in England with an eight month old baby, hardly able to speak the language (she spoke so little English that her wedding vows had to be put into phonetics for her) and stuck with a mountain of debt. She was in an extremely vulnerable position, and John Conroy saw his chance and took it. Like many other victims of coercive control, she knew what was happening was wrong but didn't know how to stop it. She bitterly regretted her involvement with Conroy later in life, writing in her journal "I blame myself severely, how could I have been so blind and so foolish?"
Conroy wasn't her mother's boyfriend. He was her late father's equerry, so after he died, her mother relied heavily on him as her private secretary. She trusted his judgement & didn't know that Conroy believed his wife had Royal Blood in her, which was why he was determined to be the power behind the throne. He manipulated Victoria's mother, and preyed on her beliefs to keep her away from Court, but William IV warned Victoria and could see what was happening. Conroy tried to get Victoria to make him Private Secretary when she was recovering from typhoid at 16. When she refused, he began causing the rift between Victoria and her mother. It was only after her mother died that she realised Conroy had been manipulating both of them.
In real life she didn't go back to bed at all. She immediately dressed, wrote letters of condolence to the dead King's immediate family, met with Lord Melbourne, met with Baron Stockmar, and then met with Lord Melbourne again before heading off to the 11.00 Privy Council meeting. She pretty much hit the ground running.
@@nomahope3182 If you see the age of the "founding father" when they signed the declaration of independence, you'll be surprised on how "young" they are and what young people are capable of without old people reigning them in.
Well, going back to bed didn't mean going to sleep. Victoria had already mapped out what she wanted to do. "Going to bed" was a euphemism that kept her mother from bothering her. She did actually nap for a while later in the day, according to her journals, but only after her bed was moved to a separate room.
@@MsJubjubbird Thank you for your insightful comment. There is a scene from another movie here on YT that includes the characters of Victoria, her mother, and an elderly King William IV, played by the incomparable Peter Ustinov, that is defenitely worth watching.
I struggle to understand how her mother could look so shellshocked at Victoria's coldness... after what she and her boyfriend put the poor girl through, I think Victoria showed a good deal of tolerance not throwing them both out on their faces right there.
Victoria's mother never saw her as a person. Just a child. She did not know that Victoria had it in her to rule at such a young age and thought that Victoria thought the same
simple, like many toxic mother she simply does not see what she put victoria through as anything bad. She thought she was being a great mother and that victoria would be thankful and submissive to her and her bf. Despite Victoria telling her several times she wished to have more liberties and to not be treated as a child, as an object etc she never even realised how toxic she was.
Well she did the next best thing. In real life she had her bed moved out of her mother's room that day. (Mind you, she only moved to the bedroom next to Baroness Lehzen, so she didn't go far) She also limited her contact with her mother to the point where her mother had to make an appointment to see her. They only reconciled years later. It sounds great but it was actually all really sad, because after her mother died Victoria bitterly regretted all the lost time she missed with her mum and fell into a deep depression.
How they treated her is how she treated them. What they put out is what they got back. It must have felt wonderful to finally have freedom and the power.
So glad Victoria had the courage and strength of mind not to be bullied into signing her power over to that idiot whom her mother was having a relationship with.
@@aleximalmgren5301 Who's family had a history of Haemophilia, From Victoria onwards haemophilia became the Royal disease not the Hanoverians Porphyria so make your own conclusions
@@jamesmaclennan4525 Oddly, there hasn't been a trace of hemophilia on the BRF for a couple of generations. It spontaneously showed up and just as quickly vanished.
@@gidzmobug2323 Maybe its because there aren't incestual marriages anymore and gene became weaker or extinct? I for example, It died with Russian imperial family . If Russian princesses weren't killed and got married , their sons should have hemophilia. There was also one other Victoria's grandson who had it, but he died very young.
Imagine being a sheltored 18 year old girl handed a huge load of power and responsibility in a time when women were not thought able to lead and work let alone hold the reigns of power. I've never been a big fan but I do admire how she took on the challenge and didn't cave to the abuse she endured. She made mistakes sure but who doesn't at 18.
She never had the rights and powers that her contemporary would gain in 11 years when the 18 year old Franz Joseph became Emperor of Austria. Also, she was better prepared at 18 than Nicholas II was at 26 when he became Emperor.
@@isabellacarta1120 Louis XIV was 4 years old, and Henry VI of England was less than 1 year old when they became king. Alfonso XIII of Spain was king from the day he was born. However, they all had regencies. Monarchs like Victoria and Franz Joseph were regnant right from their accessions.
For those who liked Emily in this movie, I highly recommend you watch “The English”. It’s a 6 part series set in the US west. Her role is so compelling and the series has so many unexpected surprises. Note: it does contain violent scenes.
Agreed. Other than they tried a bit too hard to be Tarantino-esque, but it was still well worth watching. Emily and the male lead were both excellent. Ciaran Hinds was a nasty piece of work - such a great Actor.
@@golvic1436 It's true that she met the Archbishop of Canterbury and Lord Conyngham dressed in her nightgown and slippers with a cotton dressing gown over the top but she dressed immediately after that.
I prefer the comparable scenes in Victoria and Albert. One thing that especially bugs me about this version is that, historically, Victoria did not have herself moved to another room, she took over the bedroom she had been forced to share with her mother and had her mother kicked out, moving her to another room as far away as possible.
Yes and no. She did kick her mother out, moving her to a suite of rooms in another wing, but she also moved out herself, and had her bed placed in the room next to Baroness Lehzen.
@@chooseyourpoison5105 When Victoria moved to Buckingham Palace, she moved her mother to a wing of the palace--one far from her as propriety would allow (as Victoria was still unmarried at this point, a female chaperone was required).
According to her own journal, Victoria moved to another room in Kensington Palace. It wasn't until the family moved to Buckingham Palace that Victoria moved her mother to another wing entirely. Their stay in Kensington Palace was relatively short after Victoria's ascension to the throne. The Coronation was a year after William's death and Victoria was already living at Buckingham Palace at the time.
I recently rewatched the movie, and I love that at the very end King William is just living out of spite to deny his sister in law and Sir Conroy any power.
That was Sir Robert Peele, the leading Conservative at the time. What he said was "She starts on your watch , Lord Melbourne. God grant you keep her safe from harm." It was a tumultuous time in British history. Victoria had at least seven assination attempts on her life during her reign.
The King died at Windsor, and the carriage set off from there to Kensington to inform Victoria. That’s what this scene is depicting, it’s not saying she was at Windsor.
@profaneangel0842 Actually, it was used by both the military (especially the Navy) and the Metropolitan Police, founded by Sir William Peele. As he was the one who said it to Melbourne, it rings true to the time, and the people.
No, it's correct. Adelaide, King William IV's wife, is depicted at the window. King William IV did indeed die at Windsor Castle on June 20, 1837, "in the early hours of the morning".
@@menchualcarazmoreno1743 Yes, she was very cruel to Lady Flora. But, there was a reason...she thought Lady Flora was partially behind the Kensington System she grew up with, and that Lady Flora was having an affair. When it turned out that Lady Flora was not pregnant, but had an enormous growth that killed her, Victoria was very unhappy with herself and used money out of her Privy Purse funds to compensate Flora's family.
The Clothing of Righteousness, in all righteousness be it left and right. SALUTATIONS to thy HOUSE. The ENMITY THEREBY CONFOUNDED. KJV 1611. The Mysteries of the Book of Life. PRESERVED, appointed to be read to the Churches. The eyes that behold the Good.***** ∆.*******
she wasn't fat when she was young (not talking about the actress, talking about the real Victoria for anyone who might get the wrong idea when they might read this comment)
Not when she was young, she wasn't. Although she was only four feet ten, as a young woman she was slender, with long light brown hair, large blue eyes and a pink and white complexion. Although she wasn't a ravishing beauty, she was at least moderately pretty. She didn't start to put on weight until after she'd had a couple of kids, and she didn't start to really pile it on until after she lost Albert.
My Respect to King William IV. The determination and tolerance he had, clinging on to life through pain and suffering so that he could ensure his niece ascended on his throne, is worth praising.
Still the same
The greatest Achievement of her Uncle William IV was hanging on long enough for her to come of age . So her mum and her Boyfriend can;t take over the place .
He hung on with steely determination, like grim death itself. He could feel his life ebbing away, but he counted the days until his niece's 18th birthday. And then, he let go. 🤴 👑 👸🏻
He was determined to stay alive until Victoria turned 18 so "that woman," as he called the Duchess, wouldn't be regent. He made it, and then died three weeks later.
@@chooseyourpoison5105 I know like I said .Though her mother might not have been quite as bad as everybody thinks . I mean they did think he uncles were trying to kill her to get the crown . So Keeping her alive was a good thing . Even if it was only for selfish reasons .
@@aleximalmgren5301 Yeah I felt sorry for the Duchess of Kent. I mean, she had only just moved to England when Victoria's father died, and she found herself stuck in England with an eight month old baby, hardly able to speak the language (she spoke so little English that her wedding vows had to be put into phonetics for her) and stuck with a mountain of debt. She was in an extremely vulnerable position, and John Conroy saw his chance and took it. Like many other victims of coercive control, she knew what was happening was wrong but didn't know how to stop it. She bitterly regretted her involvement with Conroy later in life, writing in her journal "I blame myself severely, how could I have been so blind and so foolish?"
Conroy wasn't her mother's boyfriend. He was her late father's equerry, so after he died, her mother relied heavily on him as her private secretary.
She trusted his judgement & didn't know that Conroy believed his wife had Royal Blood in her, which was why he was determined to be the power behind the throne.
He manipulated Victoria's mother, and preyed on her beliefs to keep her away from Court, but William IV warned Victoria and could see what was happening.
Conroy tried to get Victoria to make him Private Secretary when she was recovering from typhoid at 16. When she refused, he began causing the rift between Victoria and her mother.
It was only after her mother died that she realised Conroy had been manipulating both of them.
In real life she didn't go back to bed at all. She immediately dressed, wrote letters of condolence to the dead King's immediate family, met with Lord Melbourne, met with Baron Stockmar, and then met with Lord Melbourne again before heading off to the 11.00 Privy Council meeting. She pretty much hit the ground running.
well it can't be 100% actuate
Fake news
She was only 18.
@@nomahope3182 If you see the age of the "founding father" when they signed the declaration of independence, you'll be surprised on how "young" they are and what young people are capable of without old people reigning them in.
Well, going back to bed didn't mean going to sleep. Victoria had already mapped out what she wanted to do. "Going to bed" was a euphemism that kept her mother from bothering her. She did actually nap for a while later in the day, according to her journals, but only after her bed was moved to a separate room.
The relief she must have felt. Finally making her own decisions and being treated as a woman and not as a child anymore.
she would have felt sad too. As she loved her uncle
@@MsJubjubbird Thank you for your insightful comment. There is a scene from another movie here on YT that includes the characters of Victoria, her mother, and an elderly King William IV, played by the incomparable Peter Ustinov, that is defenitely worth watching.
So sad her mother had no intention of treating her like an adult regardless of her age or title
@@melodyclark1944 moms can be like they but this one is a bit…EXTREME. I would have rebelled a long time ago.
I’m guessing you havent quite studied what rights women had in the Georgian Era?
I struggle to understand how her mother could look so shellshocked at Victoria's coldness... after what she and her boyfriend put the poor girl through, I think Victoria showed a good deal of tolerance not throwing them both out on their faces right there.
Victoria's mother never saw her as a person. Just a child. She did not know that Victoria had it in her to rule at such a young age and thought that Victoria thought the same
simple, like many toxic mother she simply does not see what she put victoria through as anything bad. She thought she was being a great mother and that victoria would be thankful and submissive to her and her bf. Despite Victoria telling her several times she wished to have more liberties and to not be treated as a child, as an object etc she never even realised how toxic she was.
Well she did the next best thing. In real life she had her bed moved out of her mother's room that day. (Mind you, she only moved to the bedroom next to Baroness Lehzen, so she didn't go far) She also limited her contact with her mother to the point where her mother had to make an appointment to see her. They only reconciled years later. It sounds great but it was actually all really sad, because after her mother died Victoria bitterly regretted all the lost time she missed with her mum and fell into a deep depression.
She though she had plied and molded her to obey without questions. She was surprised all their manipulation had not broken her.
she must have been a narcissist
How they treated her is how she treated them. What they put out is what they got back. It must have felt wonderful to finally have freedom and the power.
So glad Victoria had the courage and strength of mind not to be bullied into signing her power over to that idiot whom her mother was having a relationship with.
Sir John Conroy
@@aleximalmgren5301 Who's family had a history of Haemophilia, From Victoria onwards haemophilia became the Royal disease not the Hanoverians Porphyria so make your own conclusions
@@jamesmaclennan4525 Victoria's eldest daughter, 'Vicky' was posthumously diagnosed with porphyria.
@@jamesmaclennan4525 Oddly, there hasn't been a trace of hemophilia on the BRF for a couple of generations. It spontaneously showed up and just as quickly vanished.
@@gidzmobug2323 Maybe its because there aren't incestual marriages anymore and gene became weaker or extinct? I for example, It died with Russian imperial family . If Russian princesses weren't killed and got married , their sons should have hemophilia. There was also one other Victoria's grandson who had it, but he died very young.
Damn, the camera work in this film is sublime!
Imagine being a sheltored 18 year old girl handed a huge load of power and responsibility in a time when women were not thought able to lead and work let alone hold the reigns of power. I've never been a big fan but I do admire how she took on the challenge and didn't cave to the abuse she endured. She made mistakes sure but who doesn't at 18.
EMILYYYYYYY
I love the fashion here. There are echoes of baroque which was prevalent in the 1830s styles and I love it ❤️💖🌸
Insane - I know 18 is now an adult, but she became the most powerful woman on earth, and it seems so young 😮
Her powers were limited by parliament but it is true that, during her reign, the British Empire had colonies throughout the world.
She must have had a certain soft power as the grandmother of some of Europe's most powerful sovereigns.
She never had the rights and powers that her contemporary would gain in 11 years when the 18 year old Franz Joseph became Emperor of Austria. Also, she was better prepared at 18 than Nicholas II was at 26 when he became Emperor.
Well, Just to point out. In history there has been even younger people of Power but I think never went under 16/17 years old.
@@isabellacarta1120 Louis XIV was 4 years old, and Henry VI of England was less than 1 year old when they became king. Alfonso XIII of Spain was king from the day he was born. However, they all had regencies. Monarchs like Victoria and Franz Joseph were regnant right from their accessions.
Nice to hear a version of Zadok the Priest included here.
For those who liked Emily in this movie, I highly recommend you watch “The English”. It’s a 6 part series set in the US west. Her role is so compelling and the series has so many unexpected surprises. Note: it does contain violent scenes.
I will have a look, thank you - haven't heard of it.
Agreed. Other than they tried a bit too hard to be Tarantino-esque, but it was still well worth watching. Emily and the male lead were both excellent. Ciaran Hinds was a nasty piece of work - such a great Actor.
I saw The English too and really liked it.
Agreed, it was a good series but very gruesome in places so you need a strong stomach.
Where can I see it?
I’m a little insulted her mother made her meet the counsel in her PAJAMAS! She got dressed! Why couldn’t Victoria?!
Her mother wished to keep victoria infantilized so she could hold onto some power over her.
To be fair her moms not dressed either. She’s in a dressing gown, essentially a bath robe
In real life it didn't happen that way. She got dressed and never went back to bed that first day.
@@golvic1436 It's true that she met the Archbishop of Canterbury and Lord Conyngham dressed in her nightgown and slippers with a cotton dressing gown over the top but she dressed immediately after that.
The duchess wanted them to see Victoria as a little girl so she brought her down undressed
I prefer the comparable scenes in Victoria and Albert. One thing that especially bugs me about this version is that, historically, Victoria did not have herself moved to another room, she took over the bedroom she had been forced to share with her mother and had her mother kicked out, moving her to another room as far away as possible.
Yes and no. She did kick her mother out, moving her to a suite of rooms in another wing, but she also moved out herself, and had her bed placed in the room next to Baroness Lehzen.
@@chooseyourpoison5105 When Victoria moved to Buckingham Palace, she moved her mother to a wing of the palace--one far from her as propriety would allow (as Victoria was still unmarried at this point, a female chaperone was required).
According to her own journal, Victoria moved to another room in Kensington Palace. It wasn't until the family moved to Buckingham Palace that Victoria moved her mother to another wing entirely. Their stay in Kensington Palace was relatively short after Victoria's ascension to the throne. The Coronation was a year after William's death and Victoria was already living at Buckingham Palace at the time.
Of course your Royal. Your majesty!
Robert Peel (1788-1850) was the Founder of the first new Metropolitan Policemen Force at Scotland Yard in 1829.
Which is why cops in England were known as "peelers" or as "bobbies".
Named after Robert Peel.
I recently rewatched the movie, and I love that at the very end King William is just living out of spite to deny his sister in law and Sir Conroy any power.
Very true! He heartily disliked Victoria's mother, and hated John Conroy.
I just realized that this bit at 0:49 is depicted in a painting called Victoria Regina.
I can’t imagine being that young 18 and having that huge responsibility. I would be frightened to death.
LeBron did it well
That little skip she does never fails to make me smile.
all interiors is amazing
What was it that the one man was saying to Lord Melbourne? "She starts on your watch, Lord Melbourne....."
That was Sir Robert Peele, the leading Conservative at the time. What he said was "She starts on your watch , Lord Melbourne. God grant you keep her safe from harm." It was a tumultuous time in British history. Victoria had at least seven assination attempts on her life during her reign.
She wasn't at Windsor, she was at Kensington Palace! 🙄
It’s a historical fiction ffs not everything will be accurate
The King died at Windsor, and the carriage set off from there to Kensington to inform Victoria. That’s what this scene is depicting, it’s not saying she was at Windsor.
Yes, that’s why the carriage left Windsor to inform her.
How could they get the Date wrong! William IV died on the 20th June, not 18th
Eh semantics
4:15 Nobody in Victorian England would have said "on your watch"
@profaneangel0842 Actually, it was used by both the military (especially the Navy) and the Metropolitan Police, founded by Sir William Peele. As he was the one who said it to Melbourne, it rings true to the time, and the people.
Opening subtitle glaringly wrong. Kensington Palace not Windsor Castle
No, it's correct. Adelaide, King William IV's wife, is depicted at the window. King William IV did indeed die at Windsor Castle on June 20, 1837, "in the early hours of the morning".
@@Originella Victoria was NOT at Windsor Castle when the King died. She was sleeping at her home at Kensington Palace
@@talmadge1926 And I never said that Victoria was there...? Adelaide was her aunt by marriage. SHE was there, not Victoria.
Didn't this take place at Kensington Palace not Windsor?
Yes. The Duke of Wellington and the Archbishop travelled from Windsor to Kensignton.
@@davidrubin8228 Not the Duke of Wellington. Lord Coyngnham went with the Archbishop
Question…. Do the British royals have a year of ascension? Before they count the years of the reign?
No. Sovereign from the moment of the passing of the predecessor. The coronation is just an affirmation.
@@kulu3850 ok
I love the way she stond her ground with her mum I got p off when they try to take over
Give her one good reason why she shouldn’t banish you right now
I wonder if it was really like that, her mother hesitating before she too curtsied.
it was
Who is that with the Duchess and Baroness Lehzen?
Lady Flora Hastings, the Duchess' Lady in Waiting.
@@jonathanwilliams9697 Ah! She would be part of a scandal very early on in Victoria's reign. Conroy would be involved.
@@gidzmobug2323Victoria was very cruel to the poor woman.
Lady Fingers
@@menchualcarazmoreno1743 Yes, she was very cruel to Lady Flora. But, there was a reason...she thought Lady Flora was partially behind the Kensington System she grew up with, and that Lady Flora was having an affair. When it turned out that Lady Flora was not pregnant, but had an enormous growth that killed her, Victoria was very unhappy with herself and used money out of her Privy Purse funds to compensate Flora's family.
In fact she was known as Alexandrina for the first day of her reign.
Movie name please????
Young Victoria.
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Poor Victoria wishes she was that beautiful
She was
@@stanleypines1026Not, certainly not.
@@menchualcarazmoreno1743 She was, cope
@@stanleypines1026Eeeeh time was not kind to her
@@falconeshield Not kind to most people either, but the point stands that at 18 she was a very beautiful lady
The Clothing of Righteousness, in all righteousness be it left and right. SALUTATIONS to thy HOUSE. The ENMITY THEREBY CONFOUNDED. KJV 1611. The Mysteries of the Book of Life. PRESERVED, appointed to be read to the Churches. The eyes that behold the Good.***** ∆.*******
Those hair extensions are atrociously placed lmao
they're not extensions, the front of her hair is cut shorter to better suit the fashionable ringlets of the era.
Okay but she looks like Keanu reeves
she was not that tall,she was short homely and fat
*But better looking than you.*
It’s just a movie bro
she wasn't fat when she was young (not talking about the actress, talking about the real Victoria for anyone who might get the wrong idea when they might read this comment)
Not when she was young, she wasn't. Although she was only four feet ten, as a young woman she was slender, with long light brown hair, large blue eyes and a pink and white complexion. Although she wasn't a ravishing beauty, she was at least moderately pretty. She didn't start to put on weight until after she'd had a couple of kids, and she didn't start to really pile it on until after she lost Albert.
In her youth she was nether homely nor fat. Portraits show her looking very similar to Princess Beatrice.