I think he would've held her at a higher esteem because she gave him a son. In his eyes any woman who couldn't provide him with a male heir was worthless. That was all he wanted.
@@Im_so_Retro85I agree that he held her in high esteem because she gave him a son. It wouldn’t have stopped him from womanizing though. She would have been smart enough to turn a blind eye to it, as Katherine did. I really think he loved Katherine. Had their son not died, we wouldn’t have seen wives 2-6. His obsession with a male heir reigned supreme in his head.
She married him 11 days after he had his previous wife beheaded. He had his daughters made illegitimate for her son. She was an opportunist without a conscience.
Jane Seymour did try to encourage Henry to reconcile with his two daughters. He harshly resisted and she let the matter drop. By God, I think Jane's life was forfeit because of they way he did both Cathrine and Anne. Historians think she passed due to poor hygiene during her extended time in labor. It might have been sepsis. Women can still die from that illness even nowadays. However his final wife Cathrine Parr, succeeded in placing Mary and Elizabeth back in the line of succession.
Postpartum infection seems to have killed Catherine Parr as well. It was fairly common until modern antibiotics, and as you say, still kills women occasionally, especially in places without modern healthcare.
It was poor hygiene everywhere since they didn't have bleach, disinfectants and antibiotics and they didn't know how to naturally kill the viruses and microbes.
@deborahbutcher3933 Apparently production thought viewers would mix up Henry's sister Mary with his daughter Mary. They must have thought we are all idiots!
The king had enough of smart and opinionated queens, here he just wanted an obedient broodmare. She literally had nothing else to offer, no wealth and status like Catherine of Aragon, no wits and intellectual stimulation like Anne Boleyn.
Although, Jane was beautiful, even historically, I'm assuming that since she was presented at his court by her brother and father, she must fit some beauty standards of that time. And she was kind, loudly obvious by her welcome-ness towards his daughters, and she was also innocent to love and trust such a man who already caused the death of his first wife and killed the other. Jane truly was just a pretty and convenient broodmare to him. Not that she didn't have a personality but he definitely didn't need her personality nor did she show one. There she might have been smart not to intimidate him. But what good is there if you have to suppress yourself to make a man happy who has delusional expectations from his wife.
I couldnt stand this horrible, arrogant, cruel king! If Jane would have lived longer im pretty sure he would have gotten rid of her in some way to move on with another woman!
He was a serial killer. Probably raped and killed other women too, but nobody knows about that since the people who knew also got killed. He had a kink out of using women and then discarding them by killing them one way or another. Jane here died because of poor hygiene. Her death could have been prevented, even in those times.
The scene where he says he's disappointed because she's not expecting a child and looking at her maid... That's weird. Was he already thinking to replace her?
He was already having an affair and some historians believe Henry planned to replace Jane. She became his 'saint' and was the only royal wife to be buried as the queen only after delivering the boy, even though Jane was not crowned yet.
@@raquellopezalvarez2001The real Jane really didn't spend time with Elizabeth. Elizabeth nor Mary was at court. Elizabeth was a toddler (2 yrs, 8 months old) at the time and Jane only saw her a few times at most. Mary was 20 and could visit without as much disruption. It also helped that Jane had Catholic sympathies so that drew the two closer. Jane did send money for Elizabeth to get clothes and she did try to restore the two girls to the line of succession after her own children.
@@carolinenachtrab4357 I bet the real Henry wished he looked that good and it actually is brilliant casting as we see the events and people from Henry's twisted point of view.
Apparently back then ir was 50/50 whether mother and baby survived, my first was stuck and needed forceps as getting distressed so i wouldn’t have lost him, my last baby was 7 weeks early but nearly died in Utero , scary to thinkhow it would have been back then
Dude, I haven’t seen this show, only clips, and it’s so triggering, having survived narcissistic abuse… I can’t imagine being married to one who can literally ORDER your death for no reason 😭 How terrifying!
To jedyne co nie pasuje w tym filmie. Nie dosc że nie rudy to jeszcze szczupły. W tym czasie wszak był juz po wypadku z nogą i zaczął tyć. Aktor zle dobrany
Not yet at this point of his life. However, if you think how narcissistic and delusional Henry became about his abilities and attractiveness, we can imagine that this is how Henry saw himself.
Oh I see, so he did love Jane Seymour because she wasn't just obedient, loyal, simple, kind, mature & beautiful. She's blinded or turns blind eye to Henry's massive red flags. And he did love her even more when she became pregnant like he knows this time they'll have a boy. And when she did have a boy, she dies few days later so of course many Historians believed Henry true love was Jane Seymour. When in truth, he changes his Queen or wives or mistress so rapidly. I believe he loved his 1st 3 wives then after the 3rd wife's untimely demise, he hadn't had time to fall out love & affections for her so he just couldn't love anyone anymore. Poetic justice at best.
He loved the fact that she gave birth to a boy. Remember his warning to her? If he actually loved her, he wouldn't have tried to scare and silence her like this. If she knew he loved her, she would have actually stood her ground because then, she wouldn't have been afraid..
😂😂😂😂😂 Yeah me too. Well, God had the final say when his sickly son died young and ruled for a little. With no children. And then his daughter by Anne Boleyn ruled for decades. ❤❤❤❤ it!! With n children. She ended the family that took her mother's life.
@@spiritxdarkness8870 it’s ok! But I thank you for making it! I’ve really wanted to edit him cuz in my option he’s so fine in the tudors! But thank you!
This isn’t a factual documentary. In his way he loved all his wives for a time. Personally from reading about the period, and we have to remember it was scholars and monks who recorded history. I believe he truly loved Catherine of Aragon, it was only when she had repeated miscarriages, and only produced a girl that he began to tire of her. Out of all his marriages he was married to her the longest.
A woman in the important Seymour family would normally be married off much sooner or would be much desired by other families? Why was she still single at 28? Was that unusual for that time?
@TheBeliever1204 Yes, sadly she died a day or two later after Edward was born. Though Henry has a son he needed another to feel secure he needed a spare. Again remind yourself that even when he married Jane there were various factions still announcing their claim to the English throne. Henry's father Henry VII only claimed the throne during the war of the roses.
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Henry didn’t love Jane above all others. She died before he got tired of her to discard her as all sick narcissists do.
I think he would've held her at a higher esteem because she gave him a son. In his eyes any woman who couldn't provide him with a male heir was worthless. That was all he wanted.
@@Im_so_Retro85I agree that he held her in high esteem because she gave him a son. It wouldn’t have stopped him from womanizing though. She would have been smart enough to turn a blind eye to it, as Katherine did. I really think he loved Katherine. Had their son not died, we wouldn’t have seen wives 2-6. His obsession with a male heir reigned supreme in his head.
The actress playing Jane is so beautiful !
@@Lifeisasecret- i know 😔
Its Annabel Wallis,from P.Blinders😊😊❤
@buzzybee8799 yes, I thought I had seen her before 😊
She is definitely a beauty 😍
Elizabeth and Mary also needed their mothers too😢😢😢
its sad jane died but at least she didnt have to grow old with his crazy self man he was toxic
She never get old with this monster.
@@fredadezwart5398 thats what i said she didnt grow old with him because she died.
She married him 11 days after he had his previous wife beheaded. He had his daughters made illegitimate for her son. She was an opportunist without a conscience.
@@livingincaptivityIII actually she tried to reconcile him with his daughters she also tried to restore them to the sucession.
@@livingincaptivityIIIso? It’s not like Jane ordered him to do all of this.
Jane was an angel for putting up with this awful man
Henry: My son needs his mother and I need my Queen
God: lmao no.
Yh like Elizabeth needed her mother Anne
Jane is my favorite queen, and the actress is so beautiful.
Why is she your favourite ?
I love Jane she is so sweet, understanding, caring. So sad she died😢
Can you imagine not being able to speak a word if it displeases your husband. Dear God, that’s like Saudi Royal families now. Hell on earth.
He was a lunatic
Jane Seymour did try to encourage Henry to reconcile with his two daughters. He harshly resisted and she let the matter drop. By God, I think Jane's life was forfeit because of they way he did both Cathrine and Anne. Historians think she passed due to poor hygiene during her extended time in labor. It might have been sepsis. Women can still die from that illness even nowadays. However his final wife Cathrine Parr, succeeded in placing Mary and Elizabeth back in the line of succession.
Postpartum infection seems to have killed Catherine Parr as well. It was fairly common until modern antibiotics, and as you say, still kills women occasionally, especially in places without modern healthcare.
It was poor hygiene everywhere since they didn't have bleach, disinfectants and antibiotics and they didn't know how to naturally kill the viruses and microbes.
She did it with Mary, not Elizabeth , most likely because Mary was Catholic
Questa serie è un capolavoro..bellissima e storicamente accurata ..
Except Henry was not handsome.
The costume aint accurate-
Not that historically accurate, in fairness.
Like most historical dramas, there are too many inaccuracies to number - but I'll leave you with one: they completely omitted one of Henry's sisters.
@deborahbutcher3933 Apparently production thought viewers would mix up Henry's sister Mary with his daughter Mary. They must have thought we are all idiots!
The king had enough of smart and opinionated queens, here he just wanted an obedient broodmare. She literally had nothing else to offer, no wealth and status like Catherine of Aragon, no wits and intellectual stimulation like Anne Boleyn.
Or maybe just someone who is kind and didn't put up enough trouble for him or scheming plans against him
Although, Jane was beautiful, even historically, I'm assuming that since she was presented at his court by her brother and father, she must fit some beauty standards of that time. And she was kind, loudly obvious by her welcome-ness towards his daughters, and she was also innocent to love and trust such a man who already caused the death of his first wife and killed the other.
Jane truly was just a pretty and convenient broodmare to him. Not that she didn't have a personality but he definitely didn't need her personality nor did she show one. There she might have been smart not to intimidate him. But what good is there if you have to suppress yourself to make a man happy who has delusional expectations from his wife.
Or she knew better than to oppose him. She saw what he was capable of with Katherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn.
Obedient broodmares get a bad rap. They're rather pleasant😆
I think by that time that's all he wanted.
YAY NEW SCENE PACK!! TYSM ❤
I couldnt stand this horrible, arrogant, cruel king! If Jane would have lived longer im pretty sure he would have gotten rid of her in some way to move on with another woman!
He was a serial killer. Probably raped and killed other women too, but nobody knows about that since the people who knew also got killed. He had a kink out of using women and then discarding them by killing them one way or another.
Jane here died because of poor hygiene. Her death could have been prevented, even in those times.
Absolutely beautifully done❤.
Honestly yes Henry is a famous part of history. But to me he was a pig for how he treated women.
He mostly famous for how horrible he was to his wives. Ironically, his daughters are more famous than him.
You mean notorious?
The scene where he says he's disappointed because she's not expecting a child and looking at her maid... That's weird. Was he already thinking to replace her?
Yes
He was already having an affair and some historians believe Henry planned to replace Jane. She became his 'saint' and was the only royal wife to be buried as the queen only after delivering the boy, even though Jane was not crowned yet.
She didn't have to be crowned. She became queen when she got married.
No,that lady was his mistress.
He thought pressuring her would help??
Jane was kind. To lady Elizabeth
The real Jane wasnt
Jane was kind to Mary and Elizabeth.
@bonniecarruth8429 no, she wasnt kind to Elizabeth, look it up
@@raquellopezalvarez2001The real Jane really didn't spend time with Elizabeth. Elizabeth nor Mary was at court. Elizabeth was a toddler (2 yrs, 8 months old) at the time and Jane only saw her a few times at most. Mary was 20 and could visit without as much disruption. It also helped that Jane had Catholic sympathies so that drew the two closer. Jane did send money for Elizabeth to get clothes and she did try to restore the two girls to the line of succession after her own children.
@melindoranightsilver9298 like i literally just said
“Madam…”
“Your Majesty…”
Jane is so sweet🥰
I watched this whole series just for cavil!!!
Me too! My ideal man.
In the books, Henry NEVER looked like this guy!
@@carolinenachtrab4357 I bet the real Henry wished he looked that good and it actually is brilliant casting as we see the events and people from Henry's twisted point of view.
@julijakeit Definitely!
@julijakeit I would have probably lost my head too! 🙂
Apparently back then ir was 50/50 whether mother and baby survived, my first was stuck and needed forceps as getting distressed so i wouldn’t have lost him, my last baby was 7 weeks early but nearly died in Utero , scary to thinkhow it would have been back then
So sad jane died
J ai adoré le film tuto j'adore j adore.
Dude, I haven’t seen this show, only clips, and it’s so triggering, having survived narcissistic abuse… I can’t imagine being married to one who can literally ORDER your death for no reason 😭 How terrifying!
AMAZING! Can you please do an Anne Boleyn and Henry scenepack next? I have been looking for one so long :c
I found one from ttudorscenes on yt!! It has good quality ❤
Will do
@@spiritxdarkness8870yaaaas thank you so much
Only queen of Henry VIII, who received the royal funeral😢
The crowd of people standing around while they ate!!
should of got somebody that resembles a little bit more Henry the 8th at this time he was much bigger
To jedyne co nie pasuje w tym filmie. Nie dosc że nie rudy to jeszcze szczupły. W tym czasie wszak był juz po wypadku z nogą i zaczął tyć. Aktor zle dobrany
The king got fat after he had an accident and the wound in his leg wouldn't heal. He wast always fat
Not yet at this point of his life. However, if you think how narcissistic and delusional Henry became about his abilities and attractiveness, we can imagine that this is how Henry saw himself.
Ya she was
Jane perfect queen for Henry
❤❤❤😊
Oh I see, so he did love Jane Seymour because she wasn't just obedient, loyal, simple, kind, mature & beautiful. She's blinded or turns blind eye to Henry's massive red flags. And he did love her even more when she became pregnant like he knows this time they'll have a boy. And when she did have a boy, she dies few days later so of course many Historians believed Henry true love was Jane Seymour. When in truth, he changes his Queen or wives or mistress so rapidly. I believe he loved his 1st 3 wives then after the 3rd wife's untimely demise, he hadn't had time to fall out love & affections for her so he just couldn't love anyone anymore. Poetic justice at best.
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He never loved or respected her... He just lost her after she gave him an heir. That is all.
I think Henry truly loved Jane…. Beautifully done series
He loved the fact that she gave birth to a boy. Remember his warning to her? If he actually loved her, he wouldn't have tried to scare and silence her like this. If she knew he loved her, she would have actually stood her ground because then, she wouldn't have been afraid..
Loved her cause she gave him a son.his true love was Anne but his mind was poisoned against her.she was a porn in mens games for power
Not for long. He was a monster
Henry loves his self. A narcist and a monster
Wenn er so ein Monster war ,und trotzdem haben Frauen ihn geheiratet .
I almost wish he had gotten all girls
😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah me too.
Well, God had the final say when his sickly son died young and ruled for a little. With no children.
And then his daughter by Anne Boleyn ruled for decades. ❤❤❤❤ it!! With n children. She ended the family that took her mother's life.
Hiiiii! Can I request a scene pack? Of Thomas Cromwell? I can’t find any, and I really need one! I’d appreciate it so much!
@@Rose-xb3jr so here’s the deal I’ll make it but it will take time
@@spiritxdarkness8870 it’s ok! But I thank you for making it! I’ve really wanted to edit him cuz in my option he’s so fine in the tudors! But thank you!
Why did the costumer not choose to just put them in sweatpants if they didn’t care for historical accuracy at all?
Thought the same thing!
Jane was no Angel. , she was having a full blown affair with Henry and married him 11 days after the beheading of Anne ..
Henry loved Jane he was buried near her
JRM never seemed to actually like this Jane.
The king was a total pig. Ugh!
Imnot sure
I wonder if Henry would have kept jane
Gerhe was sick to
Be beautiful, give me s hair and shut up. Or, look what happend to my first 2 wiwes.
I think Henry loved Jane the most and then Catherine , he said so in one of the scene. He was so bad though
This isn’t a factual documentary. In his way he loved all his wives for a time. Personally from reading about the period, and we have to remember it was scholars and monks who recorded history. I believe he truly loved Catherine of Aragon, it was only when she had repeated miscarriages, and only produced a girl that he began to tire of her. Out of all his marriages he was married to her the longest.
Are they using ther Tongue
For starters you can't even spell. Second attention much?
A woman in the important Seymour family would normally be married off much sooner or would be much desired by other families? Why was she still single at 28? Was that unusual for that time?
Did Jane die post birth?
@TheBeliever1204 Yes, sadly she died a day or two later after Edward was born. Though Henry has a son he needed another to feel secure he needed a spare. Again remind yourself that even when he married Jane there were various factions still announcing their claim to the English throne. Henry's father Henry VII only claimed the throne during the war of the roses.
@@MsWiccanpriestess she died 12 days after childbirth.
@@nenisguevaragomez8122karma visited the opportunist
@MsWiccanpriestess and not to mention the fact he was a spare himself
The chemistry was not there for Jane in this show 😅
There was 0 chemistry between the actors that played Jane and Henry in season 2. The Jane in season 3 and Henry worked better in season 3.
No no no no no no Anne Boleyn should have been the only one
6:16 seriously?
The editing is horrific
It really is bad