Amen! The difference between you and many of the other RUclipsrs is that you make the best of what you have and show it through all the amazing works you do, while the others are just interested in looking trendy!
i still use my bmpcc 4k as my main camera 💚 i feel the main thing we need is to know our tool, and we know it by using it everyday for monthes, years... i feel like switching gear very often for little technical improvements is a big downside for practicing a craft
I don't think people realize how much experience you bring to this topic. I know that I have always wanted to be an owner/operator and Blackmagic has always been the sweet spot for quality image and affordability. I was shooting Magic Lantern Raw on the 5Dmk3 for a while until I switched to BMD. Sure I've had some cameras crap out on me, but the cost was so affordable, I was able to replace or repair without much hassle. The Ursa Cine, doesn't make much sense for A LOT of current Blackmagic users, unless renting, and having the latest and greatest will always pull people to a purchase (i.e. Burano). But really great insight! Love these bits of truth you call out.
G.A.S. is the killer of great ideas! Yes new tech is cool, but we are too spoiled for choice now. Arri, Red, Sony Blackmagic, it doesn't matter if your ideas/script is rubbish, no one outside our of Instagram/RUclips camera gear bubble cares what camera we shoot on, the only thing that will keep them from changing the channel is a good idea.
Agreed, I have an Amira and honestly glad I have it but it’s limiting in movement..so end up using one of my smaller cameras..still love the Arri look and it has its place but for most jobs an FX3 or black magic would work just fine
yup. Two minutes in... it is SUPER possible to make micro documentaries solo. I've been doing it for 15 years(like, as a full time business). The gear helps me achieve this, but it is not about that. My clients do not care what I use. Its about the end deliverable, and the result's that story gives them. If they trust you, your process, how you work to get that story done, that is what matters.
shot on everything from alexa to pocket cameras to crappy old digital cameras, and I can say easily that unless you are pixel peeping the sht out of your footage side by side, no one will notice the difference between a 50,000$ alexa and something like a bmpcc6k, given you are shooting correctly.
Careful. You’ll piss off all the RUclips “filmmakers” (and I use that term loosely) who’s sole purpose is to get you to buy the latest camera for they can get that 1% affiliate check.
Completely agree! I start to get distracted by all the new gear, then I come back to this truth. (shooting on BMPCC4k most of the time and then an old Sony Rx10ii and even cellphones, mostly doc work that is better to use low profile gear)
Most people can tell the quality difference between something like Game of Thrones and say iPhone footage. For everthing in between, it's an even split between 'Can't tell' and 'Don't care'. Great video - needs to be said more!
Its all depend on the level of your work. In Virtual Production, we are waiting for M6 MBPro MAX, however, we may have to force ourself to work with upcoming M4 Mbpro max (lol). UE5 is a hungry beast...
Sigma FP…severely underrated. On the used market averages $1000. Color science, image, form factor….amazing. Close to Arri image quality. I’d rather be a master of that camera, than buy a new camera that does everything for me.
I own 7 cameras. Sony Z1U, Sony EX3, BMD's BMPC 4K, BMPCC OG, Ursa Mini Pro G1, GoPro 4 and OSMO Action camera v1. So my newest is the OSMO. When the EX3 came out camera tech was still evolving very quickly. I feel like it has slowed to a crawl today. Other than the Z1, I still use all of these cameras all the time (I record externally on the EX3 to get the 10 bit SDI signal). I have no reason or intention to upgrade any of these. They are all perfectly fine for media destined to go to an online platform.
Agreed,. Just picked up a used URSA mini 4.6k, 15 stops Lossless Raw, etc., added this to my 6k pro,/4k cinema cameras. This makes the equivalent of a movie studio, with capabilities that were not possible nor practical for the indep. filmmaker, just a few short years ago.
Cameras released in the past two years or so have been really powerful. It's getting to a point where newer cameras will start creeping up on the higher end production cameras usually reserved for feature film productions. The fact that the Sony FX3 was used to film a big budget science fiction film speaks to this. I'm at a point where the next camera I get will probably be fine for several years.
Partly agree. But the FX3 thing was just a marketing stunt 😂
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Good point. I've had my BMPCC 4K for years now and love it. I want the PYXIS 6K but do I really need it? NO, so I'm looking forward to investing in a set of cine lenses (NiSi Athena); Easyrig and light, that's it.
Ciao e complimenti per quello che fai! Senti, ho recentemente acquistato una Lumix GH5s a 650€ e mi pare registri delle immagini fantastiche anche ad alti ISO (ha un sensore dual ISO). Davvero, sul mercato dell'usato si possono trovare dei veri affari
Those 5Dmk2 reminds me of my filmmaking career until few years ago when i still shot on Canon 7Dmk2. I got my first cinema camera (BMPCC6K) in 2020, i still don't get it people complaining about the 13DR 🤦🏻
One aspect that I think about is the climate impact on all this gear being produced with minerals less the optimal gathered. FullHd is more than enough for the majority, dynamic range and global shutter is far more important. So the original Black Magic Cinema4k was almost there. Don’t get me wrong, gear is fun and Could be inspiering to have. But what are you shooting? Familyvideos, closeups of leafs and campfires? You are in a good place with any camera. I bought a used c200 kit for 1500€, it’s light, it’s fast, it’s fun! All that I need, more that I need? Yes. Far more than most of us need? Yes.
Me when the video has a photo of a dsmc 2 red, and “latest and greatest” in the same place lol But either way, my favourite camera I’ve ever used is the SR3, and that things from 1992, closely followed by the arricam LT which was released in 2000
I still shoot on 8bit and my consumer camera doesn't have any Log or RAW. So I struggle to get even a simple Rec.709. Because no working conversion LUTs exists. So yeah, I think, I need latest and greatest camera.
Pick up an old Canon and put magic lantern on there. I put ML on my 12 yr old mk3 to learn video and color grading. Been taking photos for years which helps you practice composition and seeing light and colors.
Agree. Though many of the production outfits requires this and that. Best solution is to rent one out as add-on cost and not fall into to the RUclipsr's rat race trap 😊
NGL - would love a mini alexa but then I have to worry about having an Alexia and justify it. Now I can get pretty damn close to the Alexa for work and I can just have fun with what I have too. Just shot in NYC, Boston, San Francisco and everyone was thrilled with the footage. Win win.
I don't look at it as whether or not gear matters. To me, it's as simple as supply and demand and what your client is willing to pay for. If you're shooting Oppenheimer or Dune 2, Yes. Get an IMAX camera or an Alexa. But, if you're getting paid a couple hundred bucks to do a promotional video for a business, you may want to look at shooting that on something cheap whether you're looking to make profit or you may spend more if you're using it to market bigger clients. But you know, if you love just building rigs for a hobby, then more power to you, but, you might as well work some jobs to make your hobby more affordable. And also, if you get paid to review gear, more power to you also if you're getting paid to do so. If you're a consumer, just know what companies pay RUclipsrs to promote gear and they, just like you, are trying to make a living and that you should put some more thought into whether or not you should wait to buy a certain piece of gear. But no matter what walk of filmmaking you're on, nothing replaces getting out, and doing the work for yourself, turn the internet off for a while and get out and make beautiful video.
@@matteobertoli I mean yes obviously lol. If I wanted this comment to be 4 pages long I would cover every single client job at every price point, but people get the idea. I was just covering the extremes on both ends. I'm sure people can fill in the blanks.
We don't need any of this BS . Ppl out here making movies on Digital Bolex, OG Blackmagic Pocket and Cinema Camera 2.5K and the OG Arri Alexa , and OG Reds. Ppl gotta just get out and shoot, most these cameras in practice are all at a certain baseline.
@@matteobertoli yeah definitely we are at the breaking point when for manufacturer coming up with better model becoming not worthy enough, because almost anyone who can afford a good gadget (camera, phone, laptop etc) has it already and it’s working fine more than just from one September to the next. So less and less people get introduced to the world of new gadgets (in a western world). There has to be different kind of value found in these times. However, for ADHD folks like me iPhone shooting RAW provides a great solution to simplify filmmaking process to the bone. 🤪
Huh the sensor of the 17k is almost as big as the Alexa 65. And the 12k and 17k cameras use different pixel and debayering patterns, so the 12K is as sharp as 8k. Bud blackmagic designed two great sensors for their flagships.
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Amen! All these filmmakers on RUclips, but almost no one makes films or docs...just camera reviews or gear talk lol
PREACH!!!
You’ll only truly realize that gear doesn’t matter after buying a ton of it.
@@HonJazzz i never bought too much gear to be honest.
Amen! The difference between you and many of the other RUclipsrs is that you make the best of what you have and show it through all the amazing works you do, while the others are just interested in looking trendy!
i still use my bmpcc 4k as my main camera 💚 i feel the main thing we need is to know our tool, and we know it by using it everyday for monthes, years... i feel like switching gear very often for little technical improvements is a big downside for practicing a craft
@@ploufbadaboum2221 good point!!
I don't think people realize how much experience you bring to this topic. I know that I have always wanted to be an owner/operator and Blackmagic has always been the sweet spot for quality image and affordability. I was shooting Magic Lantern Raw on the 5Dmk3 for a while until I switched to BMD. Sure I've had some cameras crap out on me, but the cost was so affordable, I was able to replace or repair without much hassle. The Ursa Cine, doesn't make much sense for A LOT of current Blackmagic users, unless renting, and having the latest and greatest will always pull people to a purchase (i.e. Burano). But really great insight! Love these bits of truth you call out.
G.A.S. is the killer of great ideas! Yes new tech is cool, but we are too spoiled for choice now. Arri, Red, Sony Blackmagic, it doesn't matter if your ideas/script is rubbish, no one outside our of Instagram/RUclips camera gear bubble cares what camera we shoot on, the only thing that will keep them from changing the channel is a good idea.
Agreed, I have an Amira and honestly glad I have it but it’s limiting in movement..so end up using one of my smaller cameras..still love the Arri look and it has its place but for most jobs an FX3 or black magic would work just fine
I have an OG bmpcc 6k and a Sony A7iv and it’s more than enough. But I still want the full frame black magic tbh. So sharp!
so true for filmmaking especially from money perspective you need great location, great crew keeping the story part aside
yup. Two minutes in... it is SUPER possible to make micro documentaries solo. I've been doing it for 15 years(like, as a full time business). The gear helps me achieve this, but it is not about that. My clients do not care what I use. Its about the end deliverable, and the result's that story gives them. If they trust you, your process, how you work to get that story done, that is what matters.
Matteo, you're absolutely right. 1. Creativity+skills, 2. Camera equipment. You showed that already perfectly by using a simple Iphone...
In my opinion a FX3 is really good enough but lens is very important. because it will make ALL the differences. Leica R is a very good choice
Well said Matteo, I totally agree!
shot on everything from alexa to pocket cameras to crappy old digital cameras, and I can say easily that unless you are pixel peeping the sht out of your footage side by side, no one will notice the difference between a 50,000$ alexa and something like a bmpcc6k, given you are shooting correctly.
Careful. You’ll piss off all the RUclips “filmmakers” (and I use that term loosely) who’s sole purpose is to get you to buy the latest camera for they can get that 1% affiliate check.
I mean no one really pushes that. Not at least most of the good RUclipsrs (and it's easy to tell). The original BMPCC is all you need.
One year of using a camera and they'll go "Is it still worth it?' lol
Completely agree! I start to get distracted by all the new gear, then I come back to this truth. (shooting on BMPCC4k most of the time and then an old Sony Rx10ii and even cellphones, mostly doc work that is better to use low profile gear)
Most people can tell the quality difference between something like Game of Thrones and say iPhone footage. For everthing in between, it's an even split between 'Can't tell' and 'Don't care'.
Great video - needs to be said more!
Its all depend on the level of your work. In Virtual Production, we are waiting for M6 MBPro MAX, however, we may have to force ourself to work with upcoming M4 Mbpro max (lol). UE5 is a hungry beast...
Sigma FP…severely underrated. On the used market averages $1000. Color science, image, form factor….amazing. Close to Arri image quality. I’d rather be a master of that camera, than buy a new camera that does everything for me.
Storytelling always been essential
Great stuff!
How did you shoot the sparkly Bokeh Effect in the air at timestamp 3:09?
It is especially beautiful.
@@JoshTrachtman it was just dust so I pulled the focus as close as possible ahah
@@matteobertoli Ok, very simple, yet very beautiful!
Matteo sto andando a comprare la mia prima Leica R summicron 50mm, grazie per avermi introdotto a queste ottiche e modo di vivere il video
I own 7 cameras. Sony Z1U, Sony EX3, BMD's BMPC 4K, BMPCC OG, Ursa Mini Pro G1, GoPro 4 and OSMO Action camera v1. So my newest is the OSMO. When the EX3 came out camera tech was still evolving very quickly. I feel like it has slowed to a crawl today. Other than the Z1, I still use all of these cameras all the time (I record externally on the EX3 to get the 10 bit SDI signal). I have no reason or intention to upgrade any of these. They are all perfectly fine for media destined to go to an online platform.
Hi Mateo,
Of course - we need skills, practice, passion to master the craft more then the gear’o’mania, the latest, the greatest
2:27 - 2:30 which video is this BMPCC footage from? Ithose are my favorites!
Cinematic belfast and cinematic london :)
Just got the BMCC 6k what lenses would you recommend getting i was thinking of getting a hellios 44 and some leica r. Is that a good place to start?
@@LeonPena-hz3gt can’t go wrong with Leica R :)
Agreed,. Just picked up a used URSA mini 4.6k, 15 stops Lossless Raw, etc., added this to my 6k pro,/4k cinema cameras. This makes the equivalent of a movie studio, with capabilities that were not possible nor practical for the indep. filmmaker, just a few short years ago.
I believe any camera with a 10 bit image can do the job. I have seen some great stuff with the old GH5...which I believe came out in 2018...
Cameras released in the past two years or so have been really powerful. It's getting to a point where newer cameras will start creeping up on the higher end production cameras usually reserved for feature film productions. The fact that the Sony FX3 was used to film a big budget science fiction film speaks to this. I'm at a point where the next camera I get will probably be fine for several years.
Partly agree. But the FX3 thing was just a marketing stunt 😂
Good point. I've had my BMPCC 4K for years now and love it. I want the PYXIS 6K but do I really need it? NO, so I'm looking forward to investing in a set of cine lenses (NiSi Athena); Easyrig and light, that's it.
I’m going NiSi Athena + PYXIS 6K. That being said, it would be my/our first non-rental camera, and I wouldn’t invest in it if we already had one.
@@whengrapespop5728 yeah I see, for now I have the 35mm next one will be the 18mm
So much common sense in this video. A small question matteo, since you are in Europe, do you use 23.976 or 25 fps?
@@dvee8229 usually 24 :)
straight facts....i still use the bmp4k and i fucking love it
Ciao e complimenti per quello che fai! Senti, ho recentemente acquistato una Lumix GH5s a 650€ e mi pare registri delle immagini fantastiche anche ad alti ISO (ha un sensore dual ISO). Davvero, sul mercato dell'usato si possono trovare dei veri affari
Those 5Dmk2 reminds me of my filmmaking career until few years ago when i still shot on Canon 7Dmk2. I got my first cinema camera (BMPCC6K) in 2020, i still don't get it people complaining about the 13DR 🤦🏻
One aspect that I think about is the climate impact on all this gear being produced with minerals less the optimal gathered. FullHd is more than enough for the majority, dynamic range and global shutter is far more important. So the original Black Magic Cinema4k was almost there.
Don’t get me wrong, gear is fun and Could be inspiering to have. But what are you shooting? Familyvideos, closeups of leafs and campfires? You are in a good place with any camera.
I bought a used c200 kit for 1500€, it’s light, it’s fast, it’s fun! All that I need, more that I need? Yes. Far more than most of us need? Yes.
Me when the video has a photo of a dsmc 2 red, and “latest and greatest” in the same place lol
But either way, my favourite camera I’ve ever used is the SR3, and that things from 1992, closely followed by the arricam LT which was released in 2000
I still shoot on 8bit and my consumer camera doesn't have any Log or RAW. So I struggle to get even a simple Rec.709. Because no working conversion LUTs exists. So yeah, I think, I need latest and greatest camera.
@@ZvilgantisKailis 😂 yes you need something a bit better
@@matteobertoli I don't have enough kidneys for the ARRI :D
Pick up an old Canon and put magic lantern on there. I put ML on my 12 yr old mk3 to learn video and color grading. Been taking photos for years which helps you practice composition and seeing light and colors.
nice video matteo thank you !!!!
Agreed!
Agree. Though many of the production outfits requires this and that. Best solution is to rent one out as add-on cost and not fall into to the RUclipsr's rat race trap 😊
NGL - would love a mini alexa but then I have to worry about having an Alexia and justify it. Now I can get pretty damn close to the Alexa for work and I can just have fun with what I have too.
Just shot in NYC, Boston, San Francisco and everyone was thrilled with the footage. Win win.
My main camera is the Panasonic G85. Honestly the only camera i really want to upgrade is STILL the blackmagic 4k despite how old it is lol.
Facts!!!!
Why does the original BMPCC look so good, though? At least the footage you showed here looks amazing to my eyes.
@@whengrapespop5728 that was pure black magic 😂
I don't look at it as whether or not gear matters. To me, it's as simple as supply and demand and what your client is willing to pay for. If you're shooting Oppenheimer or Dune 2, Yes. Get an IMAX camera or an Alexa. But, if you're getting paid a couple hundred bucks to do a promotional video for a business, you may want to look at shooting that on something cheap whether you're looking to make profit or you may spend more if you're using it to market bigger clients. But you know, if you love just building rigs for a hobby, then more power to you, but, you might as well work some jobs to make your hobby more affordable. And also, if you get paid to review gear, more power to you also if you're getting paid to do so. If you're a consumer, just know what companies pay RUclipsrs to promote gear and they, just like you, are trying to make a living and that you should put some more thought into whether or not you should wait to buy a certain piece of gear. But no matter what walk of filmmaking you're on, nothing replaces getting out, and doing the work for yourself, turn the internet off for a while and get out and make beautiful video.
@@-austinsmith so it’s either dune 2 or a couple hundred dollars eh? 😂 there is a universe in the middle if you don’t know ahah
@@matteobertoli I mean yes obviously lol. If I wanted this comment to be 4 pages long I would cover every single client job at every price point, but people get the idea. I was just covering the extremes on both ends. I'm sure people can fill in the blanks.
I l or my iPhone 16 and log :)
and ACES work flow and good
We just need (and after i promise we'll stop) the new iphone which Danny Boyle just used to shoot ''28 years later'' ;)
I found this out the hard way. Now I am stuck with a Red Komodo, and their prices are dive bombing. I'm not too fond of camera companies.
@@Vsmphoto lots of people got burned with RED cameras unfortunately
really
One reason is to write off on tax😂
But but but muh full frame with 3-5 business days sensor readout 😫
There are more youtubers filmmaker then real filmmakers 😂
that's all about hype and necro-capitalism ;-)
We don't need any of this BS . Ppl out here making movies on Digital Bolex, OG Blackmagic Pocket and Cinema Camera 2.5K and the OG Arri Alexa , and OG Reds. Ppl gotta just get out and shoot, most these cameras in practice are all at a certain baseline.
Totally agree °¬)
If you have a job and need a certain camera, rent.
Parole sante
Just buy the newest iPhone 😉
(Please don’t punch me)
@@stserge ahah even there we hit a wall. I think iPhone 16 Pro is not selling that much.
@@matteobertoli yeah definitely we are at the breaking point when for manufacturer coming up with better model becoming not worthy enough, because almost anyone who can afford a good gadget (camera, phone, laptop etc) has it already and it’s working fine more than just from one September to the next.
So less and less people get introduced to the world of new gadgets (in a western world).
There has to be different kind of value found in these times.
However, for ADHD folks like me iPhone shooting RAW provides a great solution to simplify filmmaking process to the bone. 🤪
Nothing about the Blackmagic camera is IMAX other than having theoretically high resolution.
Huh the sensor of the 17k is almost as big as the Alexa 65. And the 12k and 17k cameras use different pixel and debayering patterns, so the 12K is as sharp as 8k. Bud blackmagic designed two great sensors for their flagships.
@@VariTimo at least watch the video :)