ebike phase wires and hall setup

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • kinda hard to explain when all motors and controllers are different. it just how i do it!
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  • @liamneal5325
    @liamneal5325 3 года назад +5

    I love you 😍 man, fried motor on 2000w system, fixed hall sensors on old QS hub, put it on bike, thunk thunk, watched other videos this is best, saved me time, my phase wires were same, so I just copied your hall wires, boom, success 😀, happy riding my friend, your a summer fun saver

  • @martinbutcher4305
    @martinbutcher4305 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the info man i thought i eas screwed my hub motor wires got pinched it was called something in the motor to vibrate when I found your video I found it I just left the hall center unplugged reverse the phase wires and now it's running smooth thank God I don't have no speedometer or mile per hour but at least I can ride it to work now until I can get it fixed thanks again for the info you saved me

  • @fenrislegacy
    @fenrislegacy Год назад +1

    Thank you for this video, it helped me fix my dad's 13-year-old e-bike. I got it right on the 1st try by swapping the hall sensor's Green and Blue :-)

  • @bobetization
    @bobetization Год назад +1

    i bought a 1500w rear hub motor i connect all the wires & i got error 10, after watching your video i got an idea to reshuffle the three wires on yellow box & i got it to work the motor, thank you for this video

  • @GRAYBELL27
    @GRAYBELL27 2 года назад +1

    Waw😄 I had visions of dumping my new controller. I'll try it tomorrow 👍👍👍

  • @PtolemyCeasar
    @PtolemyCeasar 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good tips, changing the phase wires works for me.

  • @richardmaldonado5120
    @richardmaldonado5120 2 года назад

    Thank you for all the information I understand that RUclips has given me

  • @paulsolovyovsky1702
    @paulsolovyovsky1702 3 года назад +2

    thanks..my had the same pin out on on the phase wires as you do. Swapping the yellow and green worked..

  • @whatcouldgowrong6224
    @whatcouldgowrong6224 2 года назад

    This was my problem I was struggling with today thank you I swap things around till I got the right combination thank you

  • @jonny123456789ish
    @jonny123456789ish 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the information 🙏 😊...Great video guys 👦 👍🏽

  • @markmilingo2474
    @markmilingo2474 Год назад +5

    I have a motor that has a white wire included with the 5 hall sensor wires. My replacement controller does not have a white wire. after connecting everything power but the motor does not move.

    • @J4ckski
      @J4ckski Год назад +1

      White is speedometer 👍

  • @robertshawn1955
    @robertshawn1955 3 года назад

    thanks for your video helped me sort out my motor and sabvoton controller

  • @Memetokentvnetwork
    @Memetokentvnetwork 2 года назад

    Brother gray build send really gold wiring expansion 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @urbanpuma9136
    @urbanpuma9136 Год назад +1

    Great video. What could be happening when I connect a learning wire and the wheel only spins slowly for a second?

  • @user-2uf2kr2c
    @user-2uf2kr2c Месяц назад +1

    Hello, i have different colors on phase wires. On the bike i have red, black and yellow and on the controller i have blue, green and yellow. How do i determine which to connect? Regards

  • @kelvinmarland6572
    @kelvinmarland6572 20 дней назад +1

    How do you get tbe pins out of the phase connector so i can get the torque harm please

  • @charlessherman9876
    @charlessherman9876 Год назад +1

    First coherent comprehendible video I've seen about these type of problems! Thanks 👍 Do you have a direct line to get in touch.

  • @gerardbrouwer2581
    @gerardbrouwer2581 3 года назад

    Thanks for the advice, after a bit of videling it worked

  • @jeanshavershian4006
    @jeanshavershian4006 5 месяцев назад +1

    My scooter goes reverse on the back wheel. The yellow green phase and yellow green halls makes it noisy but it’s working if the front is activated and not make the EEWWW noise and I did tons of trials. Can I share the front halls to the back? OrherwiE normal wiring stock like it’s wiring color matches worked but burns from back and front on the opposite way

  • @wilsongarcia1632
    @wilsongarcia1632 Год назад +1

    Hi there can’t you do a 3000w pwm controller to a brushless motor 3 phase wire using a 48v 20A , tricking bike controller that I ‘m using a higher Amp battery

  • @RealRayAl
    @RealRayAl 2 года назад +2

    So i have an issue maybe you can help. My electric scooter fried the battery for idk what reason and i ended up buying an escooter hub kit but it does not fit on scooter its way too big so i cut the wires and put the connectors on the old motor cause it still looks good inside. I turned it on and it worked! I thought it was a success but it would not stop running even with throttle not moving so i turn it on and off a few times and then it wouldnt power on anymore. So i unplugged the battery and plugged it back in but it sparked and fried the connector “i have more” but when i looked carefully one of the connectors that you connect from motor kit to controller has an extra white wire and i just taped it down thinking it wont be an issue. But i have a feeling its because the controller and old motor wheel are not compatible. Or am i doing something wrong? Please help.

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  2 года назад +1

      next to impossible to do it over the internet. wish i could help!

    • @RealRayAl
      @RealRayAl 2 года назад

      @@karmaEbikes. video?

  • @markjulian5225
    @markjulian5225 Год назад +1

    Was hoping you could assist. Pretty frustrated yo say the least. I bought a controller 5 days ago and stopped giving me 5v. Then I bought another and still the same altho now my red and black wires to hall sensor showing 9v. I have absolutely no idea what is going on and can't get the bike to respond to motor. The motor works. I am pretty good with ebikes but this issue has basically put me into a breakdown. Lok

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  Год назад

      sounds like you have short to 5v or to phase. test all wires going into your motor. test each lead to ground. that being the stator. good luck i feel your pain. been there .

    • @markjulian5225
      @markjulian5225 Год назад

      @@karmaEbikes. I've tested it so much I was screaming. Then I found a snapped copper coil elading into phase wire. I tried to clean it up and I'm now getting a bit of movement but I may need to buy a motor now. Ughh. Gone through two controllers this week and pretty sure the other is fine. Thanks for the reply. As for the snapped coil it was just a couple threads andbibtried to stick it all back together. I'd buy a motor tomorrow but not sure what I'm looking for. I really will keep working at this because I'm desperate to get it going for my business

  • @lisadolatowski
    @lisadolatowski 3 года назад +1

    Your front motor seems to respond to the throttle just a touch quicker than the rear motor. I would probably swap the controllers round so the faster responding motor would be on the rear. Nice project😎, us e-bikers never seem to stop modifying or playing with things all the time. My bike will probably never be completely done as I'm constantly adding or improving things to make it better. Also, e-bike tech just keeps on getting better all the time☺. I wonder what will be the next "must have" in the near future.😁

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  Год назад

      it did and i loved it. the bike had a power band at half throttle. I'm sticking with a lower wattage controller for the rear.

    • @corkystephan5073
      @corkystephan5073 Год назад

      I’m going to use a 1000Watt inverter as a controller and just a switch to pump the 240 Volts AC into a hi reving AC motor will that work

  • @bulkierpanda133
    @bulkierpanda133 4 месяца назад +1

    I wish I saw this video I had to buy a new Hub motor for my bike and do not know none of this and also my throttle was damaged

  • @anio6865
    @anio6865 Год назад +1

    I was thinking about using the 16-22 size crimp on bullet connectors for my 6 hall sensor wires. Then I could just plug and unplug them. (for easy testing purposes) Do you think that is a good idea ?

  • @corkystephan5073
    @corkystephan5073 Год назад +1

    Why do I need a stupid controller thing to run a dc motor can I use a 1000 Watt inverter as a controller and a switch and pump the ac voltage into an 1000 Watt hi reving ac motor that’s what I’m going to do or try to do

  • @davidmiller4758
    @davidmiller4758 Год назад +1

    Given my Chinese conversion kit didn't come with instructions on which phase wires go where, is there any way to kinda get an idea, or do we just always gotta just put it together and give it a little go to see if it works and retry??

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  Год назад +2

      first setup of the phase and hall wires? i start out with this formula H-YY-BB-GG P-YY-BB-GG if your lucky it work. if not try H-YY-BG-BG P-YY-BG-BG AND SO ON.

  • @vikramdhiman3865
    @vikramdhiman3865 Год назад +1

    Thanks bro

  • @nixonsmateruby1
    @nixonsmateruby1 2 года назад

    Did you say you joined phase lines from controller, but then the phase lines changed again to the motor? I got my motor on a trike to spin but it won't move if I even hold it back with a finger never mind me sitting on it, so just wondering if the phase lines change again to motor and how they know as it's only wire? Haha, obviously I'm not an electrician or "trician" of any kind. Thanks from England for the video.

  • @ManMan-b5y5c
    @ManMan-b5y5c 8 месяцев назад +1

    Why when I plug in the PAS. Connector my motor begins to turn the wheel like I'm using a throttle but I'm not I don't use a throttle

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  8 месяцев назад

      your motor shouldn't spin unless the pass sensor moves. if you motor spins constantly there a problem.

    • @ManMan-b5y5c
      @ManMan-b5y5c 8 месяцев назад

      @@karmaEbikes. Hi thanks for the speedy response how can I work the problem out,as I said when I plugged the PAS connector in the rear wheel will spin as if I'm pedaling but I'm not.and when I ride it the motor doesn't immediately stop when I stop pedeling it still gives power for an extra 5 seconds or so any ideas ? Do I have to change the phase wire combination.

  • @izzzzzz6
    @izzzzzz6 2 года назад

    Whats your battery voltage? I don't see the point of loading the bike up with 2 motors and around 3000W + of controllers and motors if your not planning to either climb extremly steep terrain or plan very high speeds with higher battery voltages. Might as well save the weight and the amount of items drawing power and just go for one motor and one controller.
    i'm going one 1500W motor and controller with 72V nominal (84V max) for high speed and for lower speeds and more power i would choose a lower voltage and lower voltage controller but a high power one for hill climbing.

  • @chrismorris3981
    @chrismorris3981 3 года назад +1

    I bought a new motor and my positive and negative wire from hall sensor is on different side then my controller red is on the left and black is on the left on crotroller. Can this be fixed?

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  3 года назад

      the easy way is to cut and solder. i like to use a small screwdriver and on the side of each pin the is a small tab keeping you from pulling the wire out of the socket. bend the tab in and pull out each pin. when out bend the tab back out before changing the order.

    • @chrismorris3981
      @chrismorris3981 3 года назад

      @@karmaEbikes. but how does that work when my controler i cant change the wire inside. And the same as the motor hub. I will be attachin the positive from the controler to the negative of the hub motor and the samenwith grnd will now go to thw positive of the controll2

  • @Tyler-np9ud
    @Tyler-np9ud 2 года назад +1

    Hello thank you for the video. I hear in your video the motor kind made a zipping noise similar to mine. I’m thinking something is wrong with it but now don’t know. Is there a way I could send you the video for help?

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  2 года назад

      no need motor noises are normal. if you wan t o get rid of it you could try a Sine-wave controller. I like the noise .

  • @antiLeixo
    @antiLeixo 3 года назад

    Hello can I use a controller with 5 hall wires with a motor with 6 hall wires?

  • @dingski_diy
    @dingski_diy 3 года назад +1

    most of the controller now have learn capabilities, you just short the wire and presto...

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  3 года назад +2

      yup my front hubmotor controller is set up for self learning. there's a problem with the wiring harness . to lazy to fix it

  • @NeilSnapePhotography
    @NeilSnapePhotography 3 года назад

    Good tips.

  • @jonezdatonetech2758
    @jonezdatonetech2758 Год назад

    Nice work man,
    I have sabvaton 72/200a, Can someone please show me how to add reverse feature to my e-bike ?, even though I don’t have reverse plug on my controller or the learning wires.

  • @jasmineNcisco808
    @jasmineNcisco808 Год назад +1

    What do you call that yellow piece connected to the blue yellow and green wires?

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  Год назад +1

      goes by many names. here's a link . www.amazon.ca/Connection-Electrical-Controller-Connector-Compatible/dp/B09BZG1C1R/ref=sr_1_37?crid=377WQTXQ2MWU&keywords=ebike+battery+connector&qid=1669602493&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjgwIiwicXNhIjoiMy4xOCIsInFzcCI6IjIuMjUifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=ebike+battery+connector%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-37

    • @jasmineNcisco808
      @jasmineNcisco808 Год назад

      @@karmaEbikes. thank you so much. I might need this piece to my e-bike

  • @revparsons3tl
    @revparsons3tl 2 года назад +1

    I've got a new controller I've connected all the phase wires matching colour and the all senses but sounds very rough on startup

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  2 года назад

      keep the phase wires matched. you need to adjust hall wires or use self learning if the controller has it.

    • @revparsons3tl
      @revparsons3tl 2 года назад

      @@karmaEbikes. ok thanks for the reply mate I will try this tomorrow just tried my old controller and that's fine so it must be something to do with the census yes it has got self-learning

    • @howardwheeler7788
      @howardwheeler7788 2 года назад

      Does anyone know on a ebike I got a wire that says astern what the hellbisbit

    • @howardwheeler7788
      @howardwheeler7788 2 года назад

      What is astern wire on my ebike mean

    • @revparsons3tl
      @revparsons3tl 2 года назад

      @@howardwheeler7788 what controller is it

  • @kiwimon3204
    @kiwimon3204 3 года назад

    Nice. What's your bike setup. Motor wattage? Battery capacity? Top speed and travel range?

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  3 года назад

      at the moment. 79v 20ah dual 500watt hub motors. speed? 49mph range no idea i never tested it do to i dont use a bms.

  • @benchcat9711
    @benchcat9711 2 года назад +1

    Good day sir. I have a question my 3 phase wire is hot when you touch it even I'm using slow speed. May I know sir what is the reason why this happened to my phase wire?

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  2 года назад +1

      hard to say. you make any changes to the ebike? like a bigger controller? has your phase angle changed? could be anything.

    • @benchcat9711
      @benchcat9711 2 года назад

      @@karmaEbikes. yes sir I upgrade my controller bigger wattage than my hub motor and old controller 😔

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  2 года назад +1

      @@benchcat9711 ok what you need to do is open the motor and replace the phase wiring with a thicker gauge. or used high temp wire.

    • @benchcat9711
      @benchcat9711 2 года назад

      @@karmaEbikes. okay sir thank you very much I learned a lot from you and I will follow your advice thanks again more power to your channel.

  • @claudiorojas1234
    @claudiorojas1234 2 года назад

    I have a bike that burned the phase wire colors now idk what color belongs to each wire. How can I id the colors if I only have 3 black wires? Thanks

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  2 года назад

      just use colored tape or shrink rap. when you have it setup with the controller just copy the controller phase colors .

  • @louietramposch4559
    @louietramposch4559 2 года назад

    Interesting ☝️🤟👽🚲

  • @niius7663
    @niius7663 2 года назад

    My motor has 6 hal wires and my controller has 5 hal wire, all the colors match up but the white hall sensor wire is unused

    • @sarcastrophe6992
      @sarcastrophe6992 2 года назад +1

      White one is usually used for temp sensor ect

  • @dust6242
    @dust6242 2 года назад

    Hi,, my 3000w kit has two hall connectors coming out of the hub and only one out of the controller, any thoughts? Thank you for your help....

    • @markj.7630
      @markj.7630 2 года назад

      One is a spare if the other ever fail.

  • @williamwindex3890
    @williamwindex3890 2 года назад

    thank you

  • @GiffordMusic
    @GiffordMusic 3 года назад +1

    Hi, I have a problem with my KT 1500w 18 mosfet controller.
    I upgraded to the KT from the original controller that came with my voilamart 1000w hub.
    when I twist the throttle at low speeds I can feel a vibrating which fades out the faster I go.
    I'm wondering if this is down to the phase/hall setup been different on the controller or maybe I'm feeling the motor stepping between the magnets more due to the extra amps?
    any help would be appreciated thanks

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  3 года назад

      does the new controller have the option to change the phase angle? if so try it you have 60 or 120 to choose from.

    • @GiffordMusic
      @GiffordMusic 3 года назад +1

      do you know which parameter it is to adjust this? unfortunately the instructions I have are limited I have p and c parameters on my screen settings

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  3 года назад

      @@GiffordMusic sorry no there all different. most of the time its two wires that plug together . black or blue

    • @wilsongarcia1632
      @wilsongarcia1632 Год назад

      You’re problem is now the hub , is not compatible for more controller power , I alway’s recommend buy a higher power kit

  • @EJMags
    @EJMags 2 года назад

    How can I wire a 48v e bike battery pack to a chinese 1000w motor? I'm trying to swap onto a 50cc pitbike frame so I know I'm gonna have to swap the engine wires to run in reverse( or can I just use a foward reverse switch? )

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  2 года назад

      if theirs no switch you can just change the faze wires to reverse the motor

  • @dylansoutdooradventures
    @dylansoutdooradventures 2 года назад

    My ebike is all setup, haven't rode it yet. Do hub motors need to be 'self learned" before using it? Mine already goes forward and seems to work great but idk

    • @nixonsmateruby1
      @nixonsmateruby1 2 года назад

      If your hub is spinning forward then it doesn't need to learn and can probably run without hall sensors also. The learning line is only there for when you first ever connect a new controller but I have an older hub and it needed a new controller and learning line was needed, but a newer hub I have didn't need a learning line and also works without hall wires? Haha, if only they were made by the same factory.

    • @dylansoutdooradventures
      @dylansoutdooradventures 2 года назад

      @@nixonsmateruby1 I learned the difference in that time. The self learning line is there to reverse the polarity of a motor (direction it's spinning) if needed. Only sine wave controllers need to learn the hub motor and so sine wave controllers will come with a self learning wire

  • @ChrisBFerguson
    @ChrisBFerguson Месяц назад

    Is the yellow box safe?

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  Месяц назад

      yes

    • @ChrisBFerguson
      @ChrisBFerguson Месяц назад

      @@karmaEbikes. Someone told me to never use ever use that yellow box because it can't handle heat very well.

  • @JordanRobertEnwright
    @JordanRobertEnwright 3 года назад

    Building my first ebike and it looks like I need the yellow connector shown @1:32 what is that called? thanks for the help

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  3 года назад

      ebike phase connector. but also work well for power ect. www.amazon.ca/Electric-Controller-Connection-Insulation-Connector/dp/B093GHMTCV/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=ebike+phase+connector&qid=1620974537&sr=8-21

    • @vaclemor102
      @vaclemor102 2 года назад

      Look for this name on aliexpress: Controller Wire Connection Box

  • @jaylord55
    @jaylord55 3 года назад

    how long have you had your dnm shock im thinking of swiping my dnm coil shock with an air one but im worried about leaks with the air shock iv seem mixed reviews on the air shock

    • @karmaEbikes.
      @karmaEbikes.  3 года назад

      there a lot of weight on this one and had no problems. picked it up last spring

    • @jaylord55
      @jaylord55 3 года назад

      @@karmaEbikes. yea iv got one of the enduro ebike frames with the whole battery compartment filled with 35ah of battery's at 20s the bike weights over 120lbs and im 250+ whatever im carrying on the back on the custom Rack i made that house the controller and its all sprung weight

  • @corkystephan5073
    @corkystephan5073 Год назад +1

    Hello is anybody home here

  • @vaclemor102
    @vaclemor102 2 года назад

    Controller Wire Connection Box

  • @liamneal5325
    @liamneal5325 3 года назад +1

    Oh yeah, if it is going in reverse, look out for the pedals, its like getting punched by a full grown man, ow

    • @mickyb.8014
      @mickyb.8014 Год назад

      Ah, I've been wondering about this..'cos I have a few problems with wiring up a Sabvoton controller..
      My ebike I built is a Voilamart 1500w 48v rear hub drive with a 52v20ah battery...
      I wanted more power so I bought a Sabvoton 7245M controller (it's 45amp sine Wave £180) and when I've tried to wire it all up I twisted the throttle a little (whilst one hand held rear tyre off the ground) and I think the rear wheel was going round the correct way (forward) but I got hit hard on the leg by the goddamn peddled turning just in sync with the rear wheel...
      It was as if it had locked the 7speed derailleur cassette thing because the peddles were spinning the same as the rear wheel...
      At the time this terrified me so (didn't know how to fix the wiring) I switched back to the stock Voilamart 30amp controller but anyway I'm wondering, do I need to try changing the Yellow & Green (thicker phase(?) wires so instead of yellow to yellow (and green to green - I understand Blue Always goes to Blue) it's instead yellow to green and then the green to yellow (if you understand my babbling?)...
      Any help is greatly appreciated as I'm really annoyed hat I've bought the better controller and I've been unable to use it...
      The 'spinning peddles' scared / scarred me into changing back to the old 'stock' Voilamart controller...
      Also on the Sabvoton controller there's 2 purple&black wires that splits off into 2x seperate purple & black wires that are labeled "low brake", are these the wires I attach to the 2 wire connections coming off of my front / rear bike brake levers? 'cos on the voila kit these stop the motors spinning when you grip/pull each of the front or rear bike brakes..
      Also on my stock Voilamart controller (and my bike) there's no wires to link up to any display so I just use a phone speedo app for my speedometer.

  • @jackreacher1963
    @jackreacher1963 3 года назад

    Can't hear you