Jerry Lawrence Great idea 👍!! I was just about to post that new drummers should also put some money aside for lasers and foggers. Just as there is a wide range of options and price points when it comes to buying a new drum set, there are many different choices when it comes to your visual effects. As he pointed out, it's possible you may lose interest in your new hobby, so maybe you should start out just by picking up some dry ice and a few cheap laser pointers. All you'll need are a few friends who can stand all around you, while swinging the lasers back and forth, while another friend pours lukewarm water over the dry ice in a bucket. You can even build your on-stage concussion devices by dismantling Roman candles and re-using their pyrotechnic fillers. That advice will help you determine whether or not you will make a good drummer. If not, then just buy a guitar or bass, while still following the aforementioned instructions. and you'll find your instrument for sure!
I wasn't satisfied with the sound of of my electronic drums and was about to buy a whole new set, but then I heard that I can just get fog and lasers and did that instead. It made a world of difference to the sound..
After years of playing acoustic drums I switched over to Electric and I'm very happy. Certain things about the electronic drum set take some getting used to, but being able to play quietly anytime I want and recording without microphones and not having to tune and not having the sticks wear out and paying a fortune for cymbals is pretty awesome. I don't think they will ever replace an acoustic drum set totally but they are pretty awesome and this is coming from a 58 year old guy who basically played acoustic since 73.[about 10-12 years ago I did have an Alesis drum set but I never thought it was really any good I got it in a trade lol]
From a 64 year old drummer, there is no way elelctronic drums will replace acoustic drums ever. I can get about 100 sounds in a 4" area on any drum, including pops and clicks and an acoustic drum will never be able to do it, Humans will not survive that lone.. I love the sound of the wood, how I can go from full to hollow at will. Plus you won't learn much about dynamics with a volume knob to take care of your playing volume. Tok me years to play fast but so quiet the cat didn't wake up...well not quite. But they are great for apartment life, and I like the idea of recording at home and don't have a house so they certianly do have a place. As for Rolands, I just can't stand the sounds they make.
I bought a Roland TD-4 for $200. Replaced the sensor and rubber heel in the high hat pedal and everything else works perfect. The settings make it easy to dial in. Totally happy
Just a tip for all. Make sure to shop around. Many companies nowadays offer the bundles. And most are the same price as the set only. Kraft music has really been helpful and not pushy. Was able to bundle on top of a bundle. Yes, you can triple stamp and double stamp Loyd 😁
Great point about the need for good speakers/headphones. That is super critical. It seems obvious but, nevertheless, I think this is a much overlooked point. I've had this experience myself with my guitar gear. After 2 years with a Line6 helix - tweaking the sounds, downloading professionally-developed patches - the sound was always somewhat lacking despite listening to it through some fairly high-end audiophile in-ears. I was very close to spending $2000 on a different brand of guitar processor but, after seeing the EQ response graph of my in-ears - wherein there was a substantial dip in crucial parts of the midrange - I decided to upgrade to another high-end but more neutral sounding in-ear (Sony IER-M7...which are designed for musicians in live-music environments) and now the helix is sounding great. Lesson learned.
The alexis nitro mesh is killing the game. I have had it since its release and performs just as good as my 1,999 Yamaha. Just used a different kick pedal and added two cymbals and its fantastic.
I had it month and sent it back. Main problem was the snare being 8 inches and so I kept hitting the rim and it was frustrating. I’m also 6’3” and the set doesn’t sit high enough for me
I want to buy an electric drum set! I mean, I would rather have real drum set of course, but it would be to noisy for my neighbors and my I still love with my parents so they kind of told me no.
I just bought one off eBay, it's just been sent, then this video pops up on my RUclips list of things to watch 🤦.... Just about to watch.... Fingers crossed I bought the right one 😂
My only beef with edrums are the high hats it's seems like there's no options that give a realistic playing experience they seem to be getting closer and I do believe they will get there eventually but Roland are the closest you're almost better micing a real high hat with your edrums
Great video! 🙌 Alight just ejected myself from the upgrading an old kit rabbit hole. I have invested $1500 bucks on my old TD11 kit getting snare, toms, crashes rides. Then I was headed to superior drummer 3 or grabbing a Pearl Mimic Pro. I am done, I just bought a TD27KV mint 2020 for $1750. Only difference is doesn't have the digital hi hat or the newer thinner crashes yet I can get that later used.😅 So I am going to sell my old TD11, sell off toms and gear I don't need and start fresh. Cheers! 🙌
These are very well thought out points. I like to make the analogy of acoustic v electric drums to the difference between acoustic and electric guitars. There's much less "resistence" to electric guitars versus edrums for some reason. However, there is one important point I think should be made with respect to edrums and that is the much shorter usable life of edrums (lots of internal electronics and triggers) versus acoustic drums (no moving parts). I think it will be hard to find anyone playing a TD-25 in 25 years, but a 25 year old acoustic drum kit is just as usable at 5, 10, 25, 50, etc. years old.
My Yamaha DTX is 30 years old and a perfect e-kit. Im 76...it will out last me. But not for brush Jazz. Get both and learn new sounds I suggest or an add on e-Hybrid rack to your acoustic set up.
Forgot to mention Drumtec and RUclips channels from music stores (Andertons, Sweetwater, Kraft Music, etc.). They're there to sell you what they show you, not to help.
I’d love to be able to have an acoustic kit but I live in a normal residential suburb with neighbors on all sides and I don’t want to be the guy banging away on his drums while people are trying to relax at home. I was that guy as a teenager when I was still living at home because my parents (and neighbors) were incredibly cool but now that I’m 33 with a wife and my own house and looking to get back into drumming, electronic really seems like the only way. It’s either electronic drums or spending a couple thousand on sound isolation, which would be awesome but totally impractical. Back when I used to have an acoustic kit, there were still plenty of reasons to want an electronic kit as well. Your ability to customize and tune the sound of each drum, rim and cymbal is insane on an electronic kit and recording your playing couldn’t be simpler. There are tons of incredible samples and plugins available to anyone and you could make a decent e-kit sound like pretty much anything you want. If you go acoustic, there’s not a whole lot you can do to tailor the sound of your kit and recording yourself can get fairly expensive if you want to mic an entire kit properly. Of course the results will probably be better, at least to those with well trained ears, but it’s a lot of money and work - especially for someone who is essentially just playing drums at home for fun or for practice. Both types of drums have major pro’s and con’s relative to one another but the bottom line is: if you don’t have your own dedicated practice space and you live within shouting distance of several other people, playing an acoustic kit is just not really an option. Maybe if you work the graveyard shift and play only between 10am and 4pm but you’re still going to be a nuisance to someone and I’d much rather be able to play whenever I want without worrying about how loud it is.
I had a cheap alesis kit a while back and it wasn't doing it for me; I just prefer the feel of a real drumset, I guess. But this helped answer my question of whether or not I should get a nice electric set. So, thanks 😊
Thanks for the suggestions... I'm planning on buying an electronic kit to use in my apartment (probably an Alesis Crimson II), because I want to start practicing again, but my main problem is that I have very limited space. It might become annoying with time if I 'deploy' it all over the room. I was formerly opting for some practice pad kits, but they can be noisy and not so productive if you want to learn songs. Let's see.. Thanks again and God bless!
Hello mate, great vids,. I'm using a Roland td4, the one with only 1 mesh pad, the snare. I've gradually upgraded it bit by bit, as I've felt more playing, needed to get the extras it is missing,. I bought a cheaper 2nd hand cy8, put that in a stand for the ride cymbal. I couldnt get on with the fd8 hi hat pedal, so ( thanks to you!!), I got one of them go-edrum hi hat controller, and bought a £40 hi hat stand. I'm using double kicks, which I've swapped beaters, and the bearings,. I use midi to trigger Steven slate drums, and have split the cymbal zones, so each cymbal has a splash, and a crash/ China. So far, in my playing, I seem to have reached as far as I can go with this set up. My next one is going to be an acoustic snare, with an e-drum,mesh head, conversion with it. In the future, I've a feeling I'll be doing a full kit conversion, as I reckon, that's what direction I'm going, ....time and cash will tell. If you can, have a look at my vids.., I'm learning, and recording any( if at all) progress. Cheers, and thanks for the vids.
I played drums 40 Plus years ago, dad was a jazz drummer, big time, Louis Belsum and Buddy Rich, were friends of his. Didn't have the discipline he had to read music, I played by feelings. I wasn't bad, but I tell people my dad played the drums I beat the drums, but I loved it. I will never play in front of anyone, but the memory of my father and the enjoyment at 66 years of age I want a set to play at home with a head set, not to piss of any neighbors but to have enjoyment of my past. On my recent Pearl set that I tried to get back, I couldn't even do a press roll. Can I adjust an electric set to do that and then get back to teaching myself once again. Suggestions please Thanks Ricky McIntosh
GReat PSA as always . One thing ALL drummers forget to explain is drumsticks "You need a pair of sticks" ..... Yeah but they are 90,000 . from carbon fiver , to kevlar tp your old fashioned wood . STICK with wood . All the spage age materials will pass the strike straight to your hand and the next day you will not be able to pick up a spoon. There are a tremendous amout oof feel weight resonance on sticks the TOP sticks are The Top Ten 1 Vic Firth. Vic Firth hand-whittled the first sticks himself from bulkier sticks and sent these prototypes to a wood turner in Montreal. ... (THis is way too cosmic for most drummers) 2 Pro-Mark. ... (My fave) 3 Zildjian. ... 4 Vater. ... 6 Tama. ... (Pretty damn good . Like their drums it is like buying jewelry, you hate tearing the varnish) Now sizes . Your heaviest drumstick will be made outta steel .. THAT IS TO HIT A PRACTICE PAD. In the "playable category , by weight and tip 2B - These are more for a marching band use 5B - Loud solid PERFECT tapered tip (My Faves) 5A - As above but thinner. Perfect for slow ballads. very bright "ping" on a cup hit. Dont do any Bonham roll practice with these. 7A - I have only seen these in recording studios and never saw a drummer using them "NOTE": You also have 5B with no tips .. PERFECT if your kit is not miked.
Just bought the alesis nitro mesh kit. Comes with everything (except the throne)... Even cheap sticks (who needs those?). The kit sounds great, and is inexpensive for playing at home... I don't know how it would stand up to performance drumming. (it even has replaceable mesh pads). I'm not selling for alesis, but I was very happy with this find.
Im glad I saw this comment. I'm considering buying it just for personal practice because im still pretty new so if you reccomend it I probaby will go for that
@@Phrancis5 If that is your price range then go for it. I do not expect it will hold up for doing a lot of gigs. It is a bulky set up. Not space saving. Even a used DTX with 8" rubber pads are touring and gig proof. Mesh pads are delicate but safe for home use. The Alesis is eye candy beautiful. A huge visual temptress. It could last you a long time. You are asking because you have concerns. You are restricted by a budget? Get used gear that is much better and robust is my suggestion [if you are gigging out]. All most of us actually minimally need are dual zone snare pads and 3 zone cymbals with real MIDI IN/OUT ports. My opinions could be wrong for you. When I look at the the new red Alesis it is hard to walk away. Yet i know the Yamaha will not fail me. It will be a learning experience and it is likely you already know what you like. Even a used $1000 DTXtreme IIs [opt for the IIIs] will last a lifetime. But you already love that Alesis.
@@richievpiano Thanks. Yeah, I know very well from other hobbies that if you buy cheap you often end up buying twice. In this case I'm totally a novice who wants to explore drumming cheaply and everyone says this is the best value. (I avoid used electronics) It will probably never leave the house and just be used in the corner of a spare bedroom strictly with headphones.
For me, eventhough I prefer to play acoustic drums, I do plan to get electric drum just because on how much quiet it is and I don't want to make too much noise while playing at home.
Bought a TD1KV about 2 years ago, played for fun, started making practice videos later this year, got a band invitation last week... I guess I'll try to tune it up as best as possible, as I as a student is broke as fuck...
Agree on point 5, about coming over from acoustic drums. If you are making that jump, if you've logged a lot of hours on 'real' kits and are proud of your stick technique on a ride cymbal.... cheap edrums are nothing but frustration. Don't even bother. Once you get to decent sized mesh heads (or equivalent), dual zone, multizone ride etc. etc. you reach a point where the nuance of your playing acoustic drums translates into techniques that work on E Drums. The frustration falls away. You can play them like real drums and they will start to behave like real drums. But that doesn't happen for $300. So I would advice any acoustic player making the jump to just ignore the low end, your bottom is mid range that better mimic 'real' drums. Anything under that, and I think you are setting yourself up to hate the experience.
Hahahha omfg I love point 4 where you start hitting everything 😂 I definitely expected it to be a lot more quieter... Thanks for the video! You make some very valid points
I needed a drum to practice TIMPANI. I didn't want a throne since I play standing. I got an Alesis Command X Mesh and replaced 2 of the 4 cymbal pads with a cheap crash (that was a mistake so I often still use the pad instead) and a much nicer Zildjan suspended cymbal to practice rolls (oh so much better). But anyway 800 bucks far beats 2000...FOR A SINGLE TIMPANI (yes, there are cheaper ones, but that's still 1000 per and I need 3). And I can turn the 10" and pretend it's a CONCERT/MARCHING bass drum since I only use the 3 8" as timps. The one place I went wrong is the audio. I have some cheap speakers. They can handle MOST stuff, but can't handle the kick drum bass. It clips (Is that the right word?) But once again I don't need it. And I just adjust the volume of the 10" bass drum and... Can't overdo it now. Someday I'll upgrade it but as it's for practice AND IT WORKS AS SUCH (again 800 bucks versus 6000 and I essentially get a set of 3 timpani just...not quite) But ya. Maybe SOMEDAY I'll own real timpani. Need a real (marching) bass drum first. And...no I...I DON'T use it as a Drumset. I don't ever play Drumset. Hell, I often set the cymbal pads to something else like tambourine or something...
What would you recommend? 700-1500 budget. I want a drum set I can load up quality drum sounds (records midi) or already has great quality stock sounds. I strictly want something to drum in a studio quality setting but in an apartment
I’m looking for my first drum kit. I’ve never played drums before. I was thinking of ordering the Roland TD-1DMK all mwah kit. I would like to play metal like Aaron Gillespie of Underoath or maybe even some Dave Lombardo. Am I on the right track here with this drum kit?
A very helpful video for me as I've been kinda invisibly forced to consider an E drumset now (though I always prefer Acoustic real drums, never sat on an e kit... Well, just a little background of my situation, which I'd like to share w/ my drum folks around the world.. So, where I live now, buying musical gear (branded and good quality like Tama, Roland, Mapex, Sabian, Meinl, Pearl etc) is just for those who have rich dads, who afford playing golf 360 days a year..Plus playing music itself is considered as a low life in the society similar to a hooker.. yes you got it.. I'm talking about Pakistan 🇵🇰 So, I've got this deal from a guy who put his ad of selling Mapex Voyager (100 grands) and now I've got some items cut out of it,, down to 70k And if I buy it,, I can't put it in my home and play (probably cuz of neighborhood).. thinking of Jamming w/ band is almost impossible.. So, I don't know what to do now.. btw the NuX DM 4s and 5s are 100 grands (new) over here. Cuz of it being a country full of depression and oppression.. Don't know what to do..
Started out on the TD1DMK, now after 3 years, I upgraded to the VAD306, 100% agreed, buy what you need, not what looks or sounds good. I would have probably destroyed the vad306 if I got it as a first kit, just because bad technique!
Hey. Im new to this E-drum stuff and I just started looking it up. Im not sure what to get, I want to play Lamb of God and August Burns Red and my friend told me there are programs to get the same sounds as their kits on the e-drum I just dont know what kit would have that option of using the sounds from the program. Idk what the budget is for a kit that could handle that but Im ready to dish out some cash. Any tips on what I should be looking to get? (I think I have to buy the double pedals, the hihat stand, the bench, sticks all that seperate right?) Im new to your channel, trying to find the videos where you talk about these things but felt like a comment might help direct me the right way. Thanks alot. Great vids!
Can I play my edrum kit over FaceTime? I’d like to not do this having to use an amp and instead would like to plug into my phone/computer to jam with another musician in a different location. Also, how often do kits/modules come out? I’m looking at a strike pro se and know they’ve been upgrading them routinely(?) but don’t want to buy something that’ll be obsolete in 2 years.
I have been playing an acoustic drum kit for variety of different programs and concerts.....however since most of my music is Church related....indoors often...Could you tell me would it be worth on an electronic drum kit or keeping the acoustic kit ?
I will need to test the kit in the shop before I buy it. I don't even know how loud the e drums are.. I live in an apartment in Germany, and my neighbours are sensitive
wait so when I found this electric drum set that includes literally EVERYTHING i need for $300. I am planning to play it for fun, so the things i definitely need to buy is an amplifier and speakers?
@The Secondary I wanna know too. If you are playing for yourself I’d recommend headphones but if you want others to hear you play definitely get an amp.
This was the right video I needed to find before considering buying a set. Only thing I would've loved if there was some sort of summary of the 5 points you made. What I still remember off the bat: inportant are audio output (no problem for me, I got a real nice headset with a 3m long cable so I can move freely), what you put your butt on, knowing if you like e drums or not and getting some extra "gadgets" that you say are likely not included in regular sets (sticks and stands iirc) and last but not least the fact that e drums are not silent. Now I don't know if everything is correct but I tried to remember all 5 points. Did I miss something? (Also using this comment for me to come back to).
What is the drum kit you got in the background? It looks just perfect for me. Probably to expensive tho. Im a starting music student(drumming since i was 6, 19now). And where I'm moving to, acoustics are not allowed. I just managed to scrap up 2600-2700 quid ish(different currency here), and i got no idea what to buy! It needs to look somewhat realistic for the concerts but at the same time be close to an acoustic. I was thinking of ATV but i have no experience with them. Any tips? on the forhand cheers!
Thanks a lot! i was looking at the alesis strike pro aswell, but I'm skeptical because of all the people thats been complaining about the dead sound in the symbals. But anyways thanks a lot 65 drums, u have helped med a lot across the year!
I would forget the Alesis mate, I've played Roland kits for years and now gone into 2box drumit 5 ,I gig live with e kits so with your budget get a 2box a woofer and a pair of these m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154278044098956&id=44465123955
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there already are invisible drums XD 4:50
Same I fucked up bad
same
Haha 😄
I paid extra for some fog and lasers, my kit sounds great now
+Jerry Lawrence sweeeet!
I knew someone would've made the lasers and fog joke already. I never make it on time to make the cool jokes in the comment section :'(
Jerry Lawrence
Great idea 👍!!
I was just about to post that new drummers should also put some money aside for lasers and foggers. Just as there is a wide range of options and price points when it comes to buying a new drum set, there are many different choices when it comes to your visual effects. As he pointed out, it's possible you may lose interest in your new hobby, so maybe you should start out just by picking up some dry ice and a few cheap laser pointers. All you'll need are a few friends who can stand all around you, while swinging the lasers back and forth, while another friend pours lukewarm water over the dry ice in a bucket. You can even build your on-stage concussion devices by dismantling Roman candles and re-using their pyrotechnic fillers.
That advice will help you determine whether or not you will make a good drummer. If not, then just buy a guitar or bass, while still following the aforementioned instructions. and you'll find your instrument for sure!
I wasn't satisfied with the sound of of my electronic drums and was about to buy a whole new set, but then I heard that I can just get fog and lasers and did that instead. It made a world of difference to the sound..
I did the same! I’m a Rockstar for an hour everyday!!
“Life isn’t as good as the demo” that needs to be on a t-shirt!
Budget in for fog and lasers... Got it.
😂😂😂😂
Those are my number one priority
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After years of playing acoustic drums I switched over to Electric and I'm very happy. Certain things about the electronic drum set take some getting used to, but being able to play quietly anytime I want and recording without microphones and not having to tune and not having the sticks wear out and paying a fortune for cymbals is pretty awesome. I don't think they will ever replace an acoustic drum set totally but they are pretty awesome and this is coming from a 58 year old guy who basically played acoustic since 73.[about 10-12 years ago I did have an Alesis drum set but I never thought it was really any good I got it in a trade lol]
Ive played acoustic since 80s. Got first ekit at 55 years old and love it. Now my acoustic sounds so freaking loud😂
From a 64 year old drummer, there is no way elelctronic drums will replace acoustic drums ever. I can get about 100 sounds in a 4" area on any drum, including pops and clicks and an acoustic drum will never be able to do it, Humans will not survive that lone.. I love the sound of the wood, how I can go from full to hollow at will. Plus you won't learn much about dynamics with a volume knob to take care of your playing volume. Tok me years to play fast but so quiet the cat didn't wake up...well not quite. But they are great for apartment life, and I like the idea of recording at home and don't have a house so they certianly do have a place.
As for Rolands, I just can't stand the sounds they make.
@@drampadreg1386 I would not want an E-Kit in a live bar type band. But for me, e-kit suits me better for what I do.
Don‘t forget. Support your local dealer. He will help you finding your perfect gear and will not forget pedals.
+TheChrisdwil the problem with local dealers near me, is that everything is more expensive when they sell it
My local dealer got me a bunch of pills... what a waste of money
I bought a Roland TD-4 for $200. Replaced the sensor and rubber heel in the high hat pedal and everything else works perfect. The settings make it easy to dial in. Totally happy
Just a tip for all. Make sure to shop around. Many companies nowadays offer the bundles. And most are the same price as the set only. Kraft music has really been helpful and not pushy. Was able to bundle on top of a bundle. Yes, you can triple stamp and double stamp Loyd 😁
Totally agree, kraft is a great site to find those deals
Who's watching in 2050 on their holocomputer, playing along casually on their force-field drums?
Great point about the need for good speakers/headphones. That is super critical. It seems obvious but, nevertheless, I think this is a much overlooked point. I've had this experience myself with my guitar gear. After 2 years with a Line6 helix - tweaking the sounds, downloading professionally-developed patches - the sound was always somewhat lacking despite listening to it through some fairly high-end audiophile in-ears. I was very close to spending $2000 on a different brand of guitar processor but, after seeing the EQ response graph of my in-ears - wherein there was a substantial dip in crucial parts of the midrange - I decided to upgrade to another high-end but more neutral sounding in-ear (Sony IER-M7...which are designed for musicians in live-music environments) and now the helix is sounding great. Lesson learned.
In 2050 I'm going to contact you for the promised invisible drums made out of force fields ;-)
The alexis nitro mesh is killing the game. I have had it since its release and performs just as good as my 1,999 Yamaha. Just used a different kick pedal and added two cymbals and its fantastic.
lies
nitro mesh sucks
I had it month and sent it back. Main problem was the snare being 8 inches and so I kept hitting the rim and it was frustrating. I’m also 6’3” and the set doesn’t sit high enough for me
Just got a td-17 from Roland i like it i had the td-6 and the 15. I agree price with head set or amp makes a huge difference
For each of my question there is a video of yours that answers to me, your channel is gold, keep going man!
I want to buy an electric drum set! I mean, I would rather have real drum set of course, but it would be to noisy for my neighbors and my I still love with my parents so they kind of told me no.
The face you’re making at the end of the video is priceless.
"They are not silent" is a very important hint. Thank you for preventing me from going down this rabbithole too far...
I just bought one off eBay, it's just been sent, then this video pops up on my RUclips list of things to watch 🤦.... Just about to watch.... Fingers crossed I bought the right one 😂
in the whole video you just discouraged me from buying it
My only beef with edrums are the high hats it's seems like there's no options that give a realistic playing experience they seem to be getting closer and I do believe they will get there eventually but Roland are the closest you're almost better micing a real high hat with your edrums
not almost, you're just better off using all your bronze period and use the electronic cymbals as percussion sounds
Great video! 🙌 Alight just ejected myself from the upgrading an old kit rabbit hole. I have invested $1500 bucks on my old TD11 kit getting snare, toms, crashes rides. Then I was headed to superior drummer 3 or grabbing a Pearl Mimic Pro. I am done, I just bought a TD27KV mint 2020 for $1750. Only difference is doesn't have the digital hi hat or the newer thinner crashes yet I can get that later used.😅 So I am going to sell my old TD11, sell off toms and gear I don't need and start fresh. Cheers! 🙌
These are very well thought out points. I like to make the analogy of acoustic v electric drums to the difference between acoustic and electric guitars. There's much less "resistence" to electric guitars versus edrums for some reason. However, there is one important point I think should be made with respect to edrums and that is the much shorter usable life of edrums (lots of internal electronics and triggers) versus acoustic drums (no moving parts). I think it will be hard to find anyone playing a TD-25 in 25 years, but a 25 year old acoustic drum kit is just as usable at 5, 10, 25, 50, etc. years old.
My Roland td10 is 22 years old and is in great shape. Roland is pretty durable.
My Yamaha DTX is 30 years old and a perfect e-kit. Im 76...it will out last me. But not for brush Jazz. Get both and learn new sounds I suggest or an add on e-Hybrid rack to your acoustic set up.
Nah, electronics far outlast anything mechanical. Remember that the radio still worked in the burnt up car in Planes, trains, and automobiles😂😂
Forgot to mention Drumtec and RUclips channels from music stores (Andertons, Sweetwater, Kraft Music, etc.). They're there to sell you what they show you, not to help.
I’d love to be able to have an acoustic kit but I live in a normal residential suburb with neighbors on all sides and I don’t want to be the guy banging away on his drums while people are trying to relax at home. I was that guy as a teenager when I was still living at home because my parents (and neighbors) were incredibly cool but now that I’m 33 with a wife and my own house and looking to get back into drumming, electronic really seems like the only way. It’s either electronic drums or spending a couple thousand on sound isolation, which would be awesome but totally impractical.
Back when I used to have an acoustic kit, there were still plenty of reasons to want an electronic kit as well. Your ability to customize and tune the sound of each drum, rim and cymbal is insane on an electronic kit and recording your playing couldn’t be simpler. There are tons of incredible samples and plugins available to anyone and you could make a decent e-kit sound like pretty much anything you want. If you go acoustic, there’s not a whole lot you can do to tailor the sound of your kit and recording yourself can get fairly expensive if you want to mic an entire kit properly. Of course the results will probably be better, at least to those with well trained ears, but it’s a lot of money and work - especially for someone who is essentially just playing drums at home for fun or for practice.
Both types of drums have major pro’s and con’s relative to one another but the bottom line is: if you don’t have your own dedicated practice space and you live within shouting distance of several other people, playing an acoustic kit is just not really an option. Maybe if you work the graveyard shift and play only between 10am and 4pm but you’re still going to be a nuisance to someone and I’d much rather be able to play whenever I want without worrying about how loud it is.
2:40 comin at chu with real life lol
I had a cheap alesis kit a while back and it wasn't doing it for me; I just prefer the feel of a real drumset, I guess. But this helped answer my question of whether or not I should get a nice electric set. So, thanks 😊
I had an Alesis DM5 and it was okay, but couldnt compare to my Roland TD-17KVX in features, sound, and quality.
Thanks for the suggestions... I'm planning on buying an electronic kit to use in my apartment (probably an Alesis Crimson II), because I want to start practicing again, but my main problem is that I have very limited space. It might become annoying with time if I 'deploy' it all over the room.
I was formerly opting for some practice pad kits, but they can be noisy and not so productive if you want to learn songs.
Let's see..
Thanks again and God bless!
Hello mate, great vids,.
I'm using a Roland td4, the one with only 1 mesh pad, the snare.
I've gradually upgraded it bit by bit, as I've felt more playing, needed to get the extras it is missing,.
I bought a cheaper 2nd hand cy8, put that in a stand for the ride cymbal.
I couldnt get on with the fd8 hi hat pedal, so ( thanks to you!!), I got one of them go-edrum hi hat controller, and bought a £40 hi hat stand.
I'm using double kicks, which I've swapped beaters, and the bearings,.
I use midi to trigger Steven slate drums, and have split the cymbal zones, so each cymbal has a splash, and a crash/ China.
So far, in my playing, I seem to have reached as far as I can go with this set up.
My next one is going to be an acoustic snare, with an e-drum,mesh head, conversion with it.
In the future, I've a feeling I'll be doing a full kit conversion, as I reckon, that's what direction I'm going, ....time and cash will tell.
If you can, have a look at my vids.., I'm learning, and recording any( if at all) progress.
Cheers, and thanks for the vids.
If you are introvert and don't wanna disturb anyone while you wanna enjoy the hobby you love
I played drums 40 Plus years ago, dad was a jazz drummer, big time, Louis Belsum and Buddy Rich, were friends of his. Didn't have the discipline he had to read music, I played by feelings. I wasn't bad, but I tell people my dad played the drums I beat the drums, but I loved it. I will never play in front of anyone, but the memory of my father and the enjoyment at 66 years of age I want a set to play at home with a head set, not to piss of any neighbors but to have enjoyment of my past. On my recent Pearl set that I tried to get back, I couldn't even do a press roll. Can I adjust an electric set to do that and then get back to teaching myself once again. Suggestions please Thanks Ricky McIntosh
hehe 2050? we already have invisible aerodrums HEHEHE... Nice Video Mate
LMFAO... Electronic Drums made out of "Force Fields" just made my night!
THANK!
YOU!!!
Very helpful, thank you for the concise and no BS info.
Thanks for a great lowdown on e drumkits, mate. 👍
GReat PSA as always . One thing ALL drummers forget to explain is drumsticks "You need a pair of sticks" ..... Yeah but they are 90,000 . from carbon fiver , to kevlar tp your old fashioned wood . STICK with wood . All the spage age materials will pass the strike straight to your hand and the next day you will not be able to pick up a spoon.
There are a tremendous amout oof feel weight resonance on sticks
the TOP sticks are
The Top Ten
1 Vic Firth. Vic Firth hand-whittled the first sticks himself from bulkier sticks and sent these prototypes to a wood turner in Montreal. ... (THis is way too cosmic for most drummers)
2 Pro-Mark. ... (My fave)
3 Zildjian. ...
4 Vater. ...
6 Tama. ... (Pretty damn good . Like their drums it is like buying jewelry, you hate tearing the varnish)
Now sizes . Your heaviest drumstick will be made outta steel .. THAT IS TO HIT A PRACTICE PAD.
In the "playable category , by weight and tip
2B - These are more for a marching band use
5B - Loud solid PERFECT tapered tip (My Faves)
5A - As above but thinner. Perfect for slow ballads. very bright "ping" on a cup hit. Dont do any Bonham roll practice with these.
7A - I have only seen these in recording studios and never saw a drummer using them
"NOTE": You also have 5B with no tips .. PERFECT if your kit is not miked.
mickavellian I use 7a all the time.
Informative & humorous, loved it 😂
Just bought the alesis nitro mesh kit. Comes with everything (except the throne)... Even cheap sticks (who needs those?). The kit sounds great, and is inexpensive for playing at home... I don't know how it would stand up to performance drumming. (it even has replaceable mesh pads). I'm not selling for alesis, but I was very happy with this find.
Im glad I saw this comment. I'm considering buying it just for personal practice because im still pretty new so if you reccomend it I probaby will go for that
I'm a novice and looking at this Alesis nitro kit too. Has it held up Ok?
@@Phrancis5 If that is your price range then go for it. I do not expect it will hold up for doing a lot of gigs. It is a bulky set up. Not space saving. Even a used DTX with 8" rubber pads are touring and gig proof. Mesh pads are delicate but safe for home use. The Alesis is eye candy beautiful. A huge visual temptress. It could last you a long time. You are asking because you have concerns. You are restricted by a budget? Get used gear that is much better and robust is my suggestion [if you are gigging out]. All most of us actually minimally need are dual zone snare pads and 3 zone cymbals with real MIDI IN/OUT ports. My opinions could be wrong for you. When I look at the the new red Alesis it is hard to walk away. Yet i know the Yamaha will not fail me. It will be a learning experience and it is likely you already know what you like. Even a used $1000 DTXtreme IIs [opt for the IIIs] will last a lifetime. But you already love that Alesis.
Even though i can not stop looking at that Alesis... I will walk away and focus on something else [called practice]
@@richievpiano Thanks. Yeah, I know very well from other hobbies that if you buy cheap you often end up buying twice. In this case I'm totally a novice who wants to explore drumming cheaply and everyone says this is the best value. (I avoid used electronics) It will probably never leave the house and just be used in the corner of a spare bedroom strictly with headphones.
For me, eventhough I prefer to play acoustic drums, I do plan to get electric drum just because on how much quiet it is and I don't want to make too much noise while playing at home.
Bought a TD1KV about 2 years ago, played for fun, started making practice videos later this year, got a band invitation last week... I guess I'll try to tune it up as best as possible, as I as a student is broke as fuck...
Agree on point 5, about coming over from acoustic drums. If you are making that jump, if you've logged a lot of hours on 'real' kits and are proud of your stick technique on a ride cymbal.... cheap edrums are nothing but frustration. Don't even bother. Once you get to decent sized mesh heads (or equivalent), dual zone, multizone ride etc. etc. you reach a point where the nuance of your playing acoustic drums translates into techniques that work on E Drums. The frustration falls away. You can play them like real drums and they will start to behave like real drums. But that doesn't happen for $300. So I would advice any acoustic player making the jump to just ignore the low end, your bottom is mid range that better mimic 'real' drums. Anything under that, and I think you are setting yourself up to hate the experience.
Waht d you consider mid range?
Thanks mate. Real talk. I appreciate it.
Hahahha omfg I love point 4 where you start hitting everything 😂
I definitely expected it to be a lot more quieter...
Thanks for the video! You make some very valid points
Anata no doramu bideo wa doko ni arimasu ka?
Force fields... Awesome!
There's actually an invisible drum now which use light sensors
Dumb Dumb areo drums
Good info!
Subbed 😎🤘
To the point guide, great compilation thanks!
Excellent advice and very informative video!
Cool points!! I agree with you on these points!!
4:52 I will hold you to it 2050 lol
Which of these might have the most appropriate sounds for Jazz? Good video... Thanks...
I needed a drum to practice TIMPANI. I didn't want a throne since I play standing. I got an Alesis Command X Mesh and replaced 2 of the 4 cymbal pads with a cheap crash (that was a mistake so I often still use the pad instead) and a much nicer Zildjan suspended cymbal to practice rolls (oh so much better).
But anyway 800 bucks far beats 2000...FOR A SINGLE TIMPANI (yes, there are cheaper ones, but that's still 1000 per and I need 3). And I can turn the 10" and pretend it's a CONCERT/MARCHING bass drum since I only use the 3 8" as timps.
The one place I went wrong is the audio. I have some cheap speakers. They can handle MOST stuff, but can't handle the kick drum bass. It clips (Is that the right word?) But once again I don't need it. And I just adjust the volume of the 10" bass drum and... Can't overdo it now.
Someday I'll upgrade it but as it's for practice AND IT WORKS AS SUCH (again 800 bucks versus 6000 and I essentially get a set of 3 timpani just...not quite)
But ya. Maybe SOMEDAY I'll own real timpani. Need a real (marching) bass drum first.
And...no I...I DON'T use it as a Drumset. I don't ever play Drumset. Hell, I often set the cymbal pads to something else like tambourine or something...
the only reason i want an edrums is i dont want any complain from people around me. now im not sure if i want to purchase any drum set
That was very helpful! Thanks!
What would you recommend? 700-1500 budget. I want a drum set I can load up quality drum sounds (records midi) or already has great quality stock sounds. I strictly want something to drum in a studio quality setting but in an apartment
I just realized I am the righteous piano type person he is talking about 😂
thanks man you've been a great help
Right. Fog, Lazers, and PYRO!!!🤘🤘 Phoning accountant...
I see. I need to budget for fog and lasers too. Thanks.
I’m looking for my first drum kit. I’ve never played drums before. I was thinking of ordering the Roland TD-1DMK all mwah kit. I would like to play metal like Aaron Gillespie of Underoath or maybe even some Dave Lombardo. Am I on the right track here with this drum kit?
A very helpful video for me as I've been kinda invisibly forced to consider an E drumset now (though I always prefer Acoustic real drums, never sat on an e kit... Well, just a little background of my situation, which I'd like to share w/ my drum folks around the world.. So, where I live now, buying musical gear (branded and good quality like Tama, Roland, Mapex, Sabian, Meinl, Pearl etc) is just for those who have rich dads, who afford playing golf 360 days a year..Plus playing music itself is considered as a low life in the society similar to a hooker.. yes you got it.. I'm talking about Pakistan 🇵🇰
So, I've got this deal from a guy who put his ad of selling Mapex Voyager
(100 grands) and now I've got some items cut out of it,, down to 70k
And if I buy it,, I can't put it in my home and play (probably cuz of neighborhood).. thinking of Jamming w/ band is almost impossible..
So, I don't know what to do now.. btw the NuX DM 4s and 5s are 100 grands (new) over here.
Cuz of it being a country full of depression and oppression..
Don't know what to do..
Awesome advice!!! Thanks!
Why would I need a hi hat or snare stand? Is there anything wrong with the stock set up?
Thank you so much for this video
Good video thanks
This was extremely helpful
thanks
So thats what Ben meant when he said use the force Luke,he was talking about edrums made out of force fields.
+demonocus drumocus of course!
Do you have a video on creating loops on Roland Spdx pro?
Started out on the TD1DMK, now after 3 years, I upgraded to the VAD306, 100% agreed, buy what you need, not what looks or sounds good. I would have probably destroyed the vad306 if I got it as a first kit, just because bad technique!
I am thinking of buying a electric drum set what do I need to look for and ask.its from a private owner
Can u use AirPods for the headphones? I’m a little slow so yk 😀
Hey. Im new to this E-drum stuff and I just started looking it up. Im not sure what to get, I want to play Lamb of God and August Burns Red and my friend told me there are programs to get the same sounds as their kits on the e-drum I just dont know what kit would have that option of using the sounds from the program. Idk what the budget is for a kit that could handle that but Im ready to dish out some cash. Any tips on what I should be looking to get? (I think I have to buy the double pedals, the hihat stand, the bench, sticks all that seperate right?) Im new to your channel, trying to find the videos where you talk about these things but felt like a comment might help direct me the right way. Thanks alot. Great vids!
thanks.. it works…
Placed an order for a 9 piece Vault ED - 10M. Hope it doesn't disappoint, or collapse in a heap! Lol
Can I play my edrum kit over FaceTime? I’d like to not do this having to use an amp and instead would like to plug into my phone/computer to jam with another musician in a different location. Also, how often do kits/modules come out? I’m looking at a strike pro se and know they’ve been upgrading them routinely(?) but don’t want to buy something that’ll be obsolete in 2 years.
Can u pls make a video on the best alesis drumsets
I have been playing an acoustic drum kit for variety of different programs and concerts.....however since most of my music is Church related....indoors often...Could you tell me would it be worth on an electronic drum kit or keeping the acoustic kit ?
What the best drum set electronic to buy that will get me to about 2000-2500 $ that include all the needs ? Beginning stage , thank you !
I want flying cars before we get invisible drums made of force fields.
granny can barely see where she's goin right now , you think the FAA gonna let her fly a car ? LMGDAO
I can't seem to find much info on which E kits can take a double pedal?
I have sd3 so just need good kit and don't care about built-in sounds. What are my best options for kit to track in studio for lesson than $1500.
I will need to test the kit in the shop before I buy it. I don't even know how loud the e drums are.. I live in an apartment in Germany, and my neighbours are sensitive
wait so when I found this electric drum set that includes literally EVERYTHING i need for $300. I am planning to play it for fun, so the things i definitely need to buy is an amplifier and speakers?
@The Secondary I wanna know too. If you are playing for yourself I’d recommend headphones but if you want others to hear you play definitely get an amp.
Really useful .. Thanks a lot man
This was the right video I needed to find before considering buying a set. Only thing I would've loved if there was some sort of summary of the 5 points you made.
What I still remember off the bat: inportant are audio output (no problem for me, I got a real nice headset with a 3m long cable so I can move freely), what you put your butt on, knowing if you like e drums or not and getting some extra "gadgets" that you say are likely not included in regular sets (sticks and stands iirc) and last but not least the fact that e drums are not silent.
Now I don't know if everything is correct but I tried to remember all 5 points. Did I miss something?
(Also using this comment for me to come back to).
Im looking to spend $1000.00 on a complete bundle. I want mesh heads and prefer a snare larger than 8". Any suggestions out there.....Thanks.
What is the drum kit you got in the background? It looks just perfect for me. Probably to expensive tho. Im a starting music student(drumming since i was 6, 19now). And where I'm moving to, acoustics are not allowed. I just managed to scrap up 2600-2700 quid ish(different currency here), and i got no idea what to buy! It needs to look somewhat realistic for the concerts but at the same time be close to an acoustic. I was thinking of ATV but i have no experience with them. Any tips?
on the forhand cheers!
its a Sonor Force 2001 that I turned into an electronic drumset. ATV might be your best bet with that kind of budget, I'd look into buying one
Thanks a lot! i was looking at the alesis strike pro aswell, but I'm skeptical because of all the people thats been complaining about the dead sound in the symbals. But anyways thanks a lot 65 drums, u have helped med a lot across the year!
Btw the kit You have looks awesome.
I would forget the Alesis mate, I've played Roland kits for years and now gone into 2box drumit 5 ,I gig live with e kits so with your budget get a 2box a woofer and a pair of these m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154278044098956&id=44465123955
Awesome videos
6:29... but what if you can not afford anything really expensive? So for example only 500 € Drumsets?
Buy used Roland or Yamaha. I take them over new Alesis or Simmons.
@@johndef5075 Sound advice
Good video.
What if I buy laser track lightening and a fog machine before I order the drum set?
Hi from India, need to buy a set for a seven yr old kid/ learning for last 3 months only..Yamaha DTX452k or Alesis Nitro mesh? plz help
I just bought the Nitro....I love it!
The Best thing you can do is just try them at your friend or some one 😂😂
What do you think about the Millenium MPS-750 E-DRUM MESH SET.
Many thanks
From Portugal a happy New Year
A idea for a new episode. Review ecymbal companies like Smart trigger or Stealth cymbal from Steal drums.
If they ever send me a review unit I'd make that video in a heartbeat
Is the Yamaha DTX750K still worth buying? (Used: $1500-$1800)
You have big dreams for 2050.
bro search for aerodrums
What are your thoughts on the alesis burst kit
hello um just wondering if this new drums on market which is aroma tdx25s sounds good even without effects or somthin...
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