AXIS Spitfire - full review
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- This is my attempt at describing the performance characteristics of the new Spitfire range from Axis.
Time stamps/chapters as follows:
1:25 Sizes in the range
2:20 Shape/design
3:58 Manoeuvrability
5:18 Pitch control
6:24 Foot pressure
7:42 Wing-tip breaches
9:20 Top speed
10:06 Pumping
15:15 Winging & downwinding
19:07 Who are they for? (and who are they NOT for?)
Cheers Dom great insight mate just picked up the 900 and 1030 can’t wait to give them a run
Dominic I love your channel. I used to live in Oman in 2013 when I worked at the US Embassy. I had so much fun there and now I live in San Diego. I just bought a foil drive. Keep making good videos!!
Thanks for the review. This wing just makes sense, one key point you forgot to mentioned is that Elliptical wings produce the least mount of induced drag out of any plan form.
Thanks Dom another great video
Great review, been riding the 1100 in small waves. Selling all my ARTs.
this was a pretty good review. would be nice to have sections though. keep it up!
Great review. I tried the 780. Really surfy wing and reminds me of the Lift 120, but more stable. Similar to the Cloud9 FS wings too. I know you ride for Axis, but try the FOne SK850 and I think your mind will be blown🤯
Have you compared the fone sk8 against the spitfire ? If so which one do you prefer ?
Hey Dom! Been watching a tonne of your videos!
Currently wake foiling with png 1150, we pump back to the 15-20 roller and cruise and line up to grab other boat waves. Also cut the boat to cruise the rollers after boat stops.
Looking for a foil that is more playful on the boat rollers, would you recommend the spitfire or ART? Also what size with fuse and rear wing?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks Dominic for the detailed explanations. I'm a 90kg wing foiler on a 95lt board. I feel comfortable with foot switches, jibes and tacks. For our predominantly flat sweetwater light wind conditions I use either an Art pro 1201 with advance ultrashort black fuse and 360 skinny stab or - if it's really poor - a PNG 1310 with advance ultrashort red fuse and 460 stab. For the upcomming winter storms I thought about completing my quiver with a smaller spitfire front wing. Thought about 900 or 960 on a advance crasyshort fuse using the 360 skinny stab I already have. Good idea?
I have the same Impression like you with my few session of the Spitfire.
Thanks for this very thorough video, great explanation. I have an HPS 980 as my low-mid wind go to. I’d like to swap it for a spitfire to get more glide with a similar low end. What size would you recommend ? Thinking if the one that has 1200cm2.
Either the 1030 or the 960. Unfortunately none of the spitfires can be swapped size for size with the hps as there is so much overlap. The 1030 will have a better low end than the 980 and nearly as good high end. The 960 will have a better high end than the 980 but not such a god low end
Thanks for this review 🤙
Would you know when a size under will come out?
I'm on the point to get a hps650 but i was more looking for a bigger span, like 70/72cm, with the same 744cm2 area and i hope a 720 spitfire would answer to my wish.
Is there a point to wait for a smaller spitfire or should i go straight for this hps650?
I haven’t been told that there are plans for smaller spitfires.
Hi Dominic, I’ve been following you now since quite a few months, your reviews are simply amazing! In one of your posts you mentioned that you favorite wakefoil was the Kujira 1440 with a KDmaui tail or a Kujira 1210. As i have a boat similar to the one you had in Oman (?) i am curious to see which foil is now your favorite in 2023 to wakefoil behind such a boat. And which Spitfare model would you recommend similar to the Kujira 1210 or 1440? Thanks a lot
Thanks for such kind feedback. You’ve probably guessed that the spitfires are what I’d recommend. They have such a huge take and are definitely the most versatile folks I’ve ever used. An improvement even on the kujiras!
The 1100 and 960 would probably be the closest for with the 1440 and 1210, with the 840 being closest to the 980.
@@dominichoskyns9091 thank you much Dominic for the quick reply 👍
Great review Dom.
Do the spitfires sit forward a bit in the box when compared to ART
I wing ding and have an 1099 and Im getting the 1030
Thanks 👍 No further forwards than the ARTs
Great Review! I'm a fairly lightweight rider and looking for a stepdown from my 1050HPS when the wind is not light, before I use my ART899 (either in breeze or calmer water). Which SF would you recommend for this? Ideally, to get going in about 13knots, the SF 840 or SF 900?
Definitely the 900
Great info sir! Would love to hear your thoughts on pairing the Spitfire 960 with FDA+
It’s amazing! I’ve used FDA+ with all the spitfire’s and they work great. I have surfed and DW with them all down to the 900, which I even use occasionally for flat water pumping. The 960 is such a good foil and works great with Fd for everything
*edit* I was thinking the 960 with black ultra short and 350 pro with foil drive efoil mode. I’m located inland in the Pacific Northwest away from waves and mostly ride flatwater. That said, would the 960 be to fast of a foil for foil drive? I currently use the 910 png which is so freakin fun!!
Thanks again for your advise 🤙
@@RCKahuna150 the 960 is great with foildrive. It is a bit faster than the 910 but has a much more surfy feel to it. It pumps well but it’s maybe a bit more technical to pump. I think the 960 maybe has a slightly better range than the 910, but it’s hard to separate them as they are both such good foils. I would say the 960 is a slight step up in performance
Hey Dom. Thanks for the great reviews. I'm currently riding the HPS 930 and 1050 and have progressed well with them (75% success rate on jibes and riding 2-4" swell. I also had the art 999 and 1099 but found them not great for my skill level and local condions.
I don't see much downside to switching to the SP foils to gain some more speed and glide. I'm 80kg on a froth 95, ultrashort fuse. What are your thoughts on two foils to switch to. I can ride my two hps from 10 - 30 knotts. Thanks.
The spitfires are definitely a performance upgrade over the HPS and I think you’ll find them more user friendly than the ARTs. The safe choice would be the 1100 and 960, but if you want you could go with the 1100 and 900. That would be a big jump but the 900 has such a big range I think it’s ok, especially if you want to increase your range at the top end
Thanks Dom
Hi Dominic, thanks for all your videos.
I'm looking for advice for my next dockstart wing. I am a rider of 1.87 m and 82 kg (and 57 years old...). I have been doing dockstart for a year with my PNG 1150, advanced short fuselage and 375 prog,
and 90% successful departures.
I tried with my ArtPro 1201 with around fifteen successful starts but a lot of failures.
So I'm looking for an intermediate wing with more glide and speed.
I love my Spitfire 900 for wingfoiling and would be interested in the Spitfire 1100 for dockstart if and maybe winging.
Have you already tried the 1100 as a dockstart wing? or other ideas from Axis range of course!
Many thanks
Hi there. The spitfire 1100 is maybe a little bit easier to dock start than the 1201 but not by much. The 1300 is a great alternative to the 1150 because it is a bit faster and has better glide abs is still very easy to dock start. I find that any faster foil will always be harder to dock start so I just have to put up with a lower success rate. TBH I mostly use FoilDrive these days because I can get on foil and pump around with MUCH smaller foils than I can dock start with
Thanks for a great video but I miss the ramble😉. I hope you release the ramble on edit.
My first edit was nearly 40 minutes long 😮 I managed to cut that down to 28 minutes but then it came across as being so disjointed I recorded it all again and still found a couple of sections of rambling 😂 I could release them as a separate video but I think you’d be the only person who’d watch it 😜
Hi. Great video thanks. I use a 999 for winging at about 85kg. How would you compare a PNG 910B vs a Spitfire which would have similar low end as the 910B? I was thinking of buying a 910 but not sure now that the Spitfire has been released. Thanks. PS: Or is there a HPS wing you would also recommend to compliment my 999 for lighter winds? I am proficient with all types of tacks, gybes, foot switches etc and ride in a bay with bay swells on the stronger days.
The spitfire 960 is a good replacement for the 910b. Good low end but a bit faster and much more surfy.
The HPS 1050 is a good light wind foil that would compliment the 999, but then you would have very different styles of foils in your quiver. I would say the spitfire 1100 is also an excellent foil to compliment the 999 and it would then be the same style as the 960
Appreciate the advice. Sounds like the Spitfire 1100 is what you're thinking best right (given my scenario)? Would the 1030 be okay too? I ask this mainly because my local store has no stock of the 1100 right now.@@dominichoskyns9091
How do the SPT handle turbulent water conditions as compared to the ART, which I find are very reactive when the water gets messy.
Do the ART PRO have the same reactive feeling as the ART in turbulent water?
Spitfires handle turbulent water much better than the ARTs. Art pro better than ART but not as good as spitfire
Hi Dom,
What is that emergency recovery move you mention with a tip breach?
Immediately apply back foot pressure real quick but use your front foot to keep the board fairly flat to the water. The back foot pressure reengages the foil and the front foot pressure prevents the foil from having an angle of attack that would stall your speed. You need to keep your speed up to get through the breach
Hi Dom.
I am kite foiling and this is my current setup: Duotone Mono 7m2, Duotone Pace 4'6'', Axis Power Carbon mast 90cm, Black Series Short Fuselage, HPS 650 at the front, and Progressive 375 at the rear. My idea is to switch to Spitfire 780 at the front and Skinny 360 at rear - any thoughts/advice you can give me? I am not an expert, just started making gybes, occasionally do some pumping ... but I feel I need more lift but would like to keep the speed of the HPS. I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks!
Reply sorry but I have zero experience kite foiling so I wouldn’t know how these foils perform with a kite
OK, thank you. Great review.
I wing in short period, 2-3 foot wind swell and chop on the 1050. Can you compare the spitfire to the 1050 in those conditions?
I’d definitely substitute the 1100 for the 1050 in those conditions
Did you get to try the smaller spitfire 780 and 840 with winging yet? If so, how was it? Was it fast enough to catch waves?
Dom, would you replace the HPS1050 with the Spitfire 1100 for winging in lighter winds? What would be the benefits?
I prefer the SF1100 because it’s a bit faster and turns MUCH better, however the 1050 does have a bit more lift at slightly lower speed and a slightly lower stall speed. It’s up to you which you value most
Great video. Which two sizes would you suggest for a 95kg sup surf foiler ?
It depends on the size waves you’ll be riding sand your skill level. Assuming you’re on small to medium waves and intermediate skill level then I’d recommend the 1100 & 960, but if you’re an expert riding big waves then the 1030 & 900 could be better
I’m 95 rode 960 today and if you pumping and linking is dialled in the 960 has so much lift I’ll probably drop to 900
@@samj11791 what about using a skinny rear wing with it. This should help release a little the lift and make it even faster.
@@nipabe1 Yeah I’ll probably look at one of those soon just seems like960 had a little bit too much left on the head high waves. was great for anything smaller have plenty of speed too
Bonjour .J'ai casser ma hps 830 en wing. J'aimerai changer pour une spitfire .J'hesite entre la 780 et la 720.J'ai un tres bon niveau en wing j'ai une petite planche de 27litres .Je navigue dans des vagues de 1m 50 pas plus .Que me conseilles tu ? MERCI
At your weight you should be able to deal with the 720 for winging, but for prone foiling I think the 780 would be best. I always use one size smaller for winging compared to what i use for prone surfing
Around 21:00 or so he gets into the other use cases and foils.
Absolutely hated the spitfire 😩 couldn’t get enough lift on it at all - and tried 3 sizes
I’ll stick with the HPS
I am assuming you are using these on a foil drive? Which is your favorite set up from Axis on FD? Please include entire set up. Great review
Yes with FD for prone foiling and downwinding but also for winging and wake foiling without FD.
My favourite setup for prone foiling with FD is the Axis pump 4’6” 37ltr. For downwinding with FD I now prefer a slightly larger board, around 4’10-5’ x 45ltrs. I’m even using a 5’ x 19” x 55ltr DW style board atm to test the pros and cons of the extra volume.
I mostly use the advance ultrashort fuse and skinny rears for DW and advance crazyshort and p300 for surfing.
Always use the 82cm mast for everything except for winging in choppy water or big swell when I prefer the 90cm mast
Hey Dom. Which Spitfires do u use with foildrive?
@@michaelriddle8046 all of them except for the 780 which Id only really use for winging, and tow foiling
I use the HPS 1050 and then jump up to the 1150 PNG how do you compare them to the Spitfire 1110 1030 spitfire
I would say the 1030 and the new 1180 spitfires would be the best choices for replacing those two foils
flat wings are horrible
Oh? why and for what?