Allowing exhaust pipes, banners and barrels to allow a model to be targeted was such a fucking massive step back I still cant really believe it happened.
Absolutely loved this video. 40K has been a huge part of my life since 2nd edition and I appreciate this trip down memory lane. I would love something similar to this but with factions and how their rules changed throughout the years (might be a bit of an undertaking but if there is anyone that can get it done, I know it’s you bosses).
This is really cool. I never realized that the first edition was essentially a scaled up D&D combat and focused on smaller battles. It makes a lot of sense that it didnt start out with such big battles in mind.
It's good that the game is less complicated today, but I still think firing arcs from weapons attached to vehicles is a good idea, It's very strange that I can place my tank behind a building and shoot things out of its rear end.
When you say 'Overwatch was introduced in 6th' don't you mean 'Overwatch was REintroduced in 6th & it was now applied on the charge instead of being declared in your own turn to prevent or funnel enemy movement, like it was in 2nd'
Thank you so much for this vid. I've played every version and consequently suffer from "edition-bleed" for the rules. Great to have a vid that helps separate them again in my mind.
Great video! As only came into 40K in 9th it’s always fun to learn about past editions. Perhaps you could do a review of each boxes in terms of the models/content and theme of them? And give some views on what would be good in the future.
This is great! I was out of the game from 3rd till 9th so its great to see how each eddition was in the time I missed. What would be cool is an individual video on each eddition, delving deeper in to the rules and maybe following each editions video with a battle report (I understand just how much work that would entail but a guy can dream 😅)
Fantastic video, please do more like it. I had not realised that edition changes had been quite so regular for so long. And despite 8th and 10th being overhauls they are not as out of character as I thought.
as someone who has always loved warhammer but only got into the game and painting side of it in the last year.. this vid is just special. and makes me very depressed that i started doing this so late into it :P
Dear Chef (and Beard), this was amazing. Like a full fledged documentary. So well produced. So well presented. Amazing. You simply keep on making the best presentend and produced 40k-content.
I really miss armour values and initiative. I got in at 6th and its been downhill since. The year is 2050. You lost at rock,paper,scissors. You remove your mini that cost you half your salary
Thank you, enjoyed that. Played Rogue trader through to 8th, so apart from being old enough to know better, that was an entertaining journey through different times of my life. More nostalgia flashbacks please.
Fantastic video. I played heavy from 2nd through 4th, then got interested again through Kill Team near the end of 9th, and jumped back in full-force with the launch of 10th. It is an absolute delight to see both what I loved (and didn't love so much) about editions, as well as get a good overview of the editions I missed, and how the game evolved over time. A series dedicated to even more in-depth looks at previous editions would be absolutely brilliant... and with the quality and passion I've come to expect from Tabletop Tactics, would probably be held in great regard for years - if not decades - to come as a definitive history of the game.
7th edition using standard force organization chart instead of formations and supplement cheese and saying no to malefic daemonology summoning and you were in the golden age of 40k. Basically 6th but without flyers jinking at no penalty and with updated codexes instead of leftovers from 5th.
As a side note... In 2ED the sustained fire dice was specified as having the sides of 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, & Jam. However, when asked at a Q&A as to why the average roll for a sustained dice was so low Gav Thorpe- in claiming the average was 2- accidentally revealed that GW staff at WHW were accidentally using a different version of Sustained Fire die to the rest of the UK! There's had two 3s, and only a single 1. Meanwhile, some gamers from the continent (Italy I think) brought out the dice that they had gotten in their box sets (with matching numbers in the translated rule book I believe) which had a single 2 and three 1s. The look of realisation on Gav's face, who had just hinted at the coming 3rd Edition, looked to me to indicate he had a whole lot of writing to do asap for some things scheduled to head to the printer's soon! I believe this is why so many of the Index weapon profiles said things like 'as a Bolter, except...' or similar- a massively rushed deadline after the realisation that every reference to sustained fire had to be stripped out.
Remember the rogue trader days, played through to 3rd and started up again in late 5th, stopped in 7th and switched to 30k, now getting back to 40k in 10th
vid rules, this was really cool to learn about, really have very little context to 40k outside of some books and 9th/10th edition. Loved getting to see how the game has changed!
Great in-depth video, having played 3rd & 4th it was good to look back. Then having a break until 9th and still playing in 10th it’s interesting to see what I missed. Would of been good to have had small details of when certain armies came out in the editions as well throughout.
Man this brings back some nostalgia, mainly for crazy rules I forgot we used to deal with. Superbly done Chef. I miss deep striking BA land raiders........😅
Excellent video! Really enjoyed couldn’t believe Chef was not going to mention the infamous rhino rush of 3rd edition so caught me off guard mentioning it during the 4th rules changes! Thanks for this content!
Absolutely loved this video, not only the nostalgia from 3rd-7th but understanding where the current gameplay came from, 8tha & 9th (I WAS ON A BREAK! 😂) Cheers guys!
Brilliant video Chef (and Beard)! Really appreciate the detail and effort. Great job, very informative, and much appreciated! I started in 2nd Edition but the dramatic change to 3rd actually stopped me playing for a couple of editions due to the perceived ‘dumbing’ down (it felt like the life and rich detail got sucked from the game to me)…Then we had the ‘dark days’ of GW’s draconian anti-customer/player era for the middle editions and I didn’t actually start collecting again until 8th Edition (albeit having studied and observed every edition) when GW Community actually reached out to players again… It’s been an interesting ride! 😅
This was genuinely great; I got into the game in 2002, and it was cool to reflect on the progression of the game inthe intevening years (as well as see how RT and 2E worked!).
having gotten into 40k in mid 9th edition I've always been fascinated by the games history and it's many little charms, I'd also totally watch a similar video about codexs and other similar topics
Absolutely fantastic video Chef and Beard! Having recently perused my copy of Cities of Death (2006) I couldn't help but notice how the charts in that book are calling 3 ruins claustrophobic and a reasonable number of terrain pieces to use in a game, and how that have changed radically when looking at 9th/10th, maybe a deep dive on just how the terrain and boards of 40k have changed over the years would make for an interesting deep dive? Especially with the brief highlights in this video on how line of sight and cover (with screening) have changed over the years?
Great video! I'd also like to see a history of the armies over time. I have tried to introduce when certain armies, subfactions or characters were introduced, but it's almost impossible as most articles on the "history" of Warhammer 40k are about the lore history.
The best vehicle rules were those that had the perspex overlay target sight which you placed over diagrams of the relevant models you were targeting. Definitely the most fun and accurate vehicle combat system I played.
Fantastic video! Well done! I play a lot of necromunda and it's nice to learn how willpower, cool etc. Are adopted from 1st edition, which something I didn't know. 2nd is my preferred 40k, I really like it, especially hand to hand, which is easy once you know how. I think the hand to hand experience is similar to modern kill team.
Brilliant summary! I started the hobby shortly after 2nd was released and it dominated my teen years. I was appalled by 3rd, never played it and gave up the hobby. I tried to restart in 8th, shortly before 9th, but am only finishing my army (GSC) now to start in 10th hopefully. My rules memory of 2nd is still quite fresh, so there will be quite a leap from 2nd to 10th. Looking forwar to tho!
Amazing work Chef and Beard! I'd love to see more like this in the future. I haven't been in a position to play 40k much myself until recently, but I've lurked since 5th and I always found detailed breakdowns of the current meta/gameplay quirks of given editions endlessly fascinating. Fantastic presentation and sexy B-roll to boot, what's not to love?
Very enjoyable! I was about 3 years into fantasy battle when rogue trader launched. Among my group of friends (all of us about 12 years old) marines were the "joke" option because they were plastic, not "proper" metal models. How times have changed 😂
I never got the elitism about metal models. It's simply an inferior material in terms of modelling ease and paintjob durability. Only thing it has going for it is the heft in your hand, which I can kinda get, but you can just glue washers under your base if you're so hung up about it... Then again, I never got the 'book smell' argument regarding ebook readers so what do I know...
@@toferkrz946 true, but 30 plus years ago, plastic models were legitimately terrible... To be fair, met ones weren't much better lol. These days, I'd hate to have to work with metal, it's such a miserable material to work with. I don't even like designing minis for metal, I was glad when my work switched to plastic minis as the process is much nicer from an engineering pipeline.
Excellent video both in terms of content and in the quality of the editing. I'd very interessted in a sort of post "mortem" regarding what previous edition were trying to achieve, failing or succeeding ( not in terms of mechanic but in terms of game design, whats feelings they generated that sort of things). And obviously the same video but applied to the old world would be extremly cool ( but i guess not the target audience) Cheers and thank you for the great work
Thoroughly enjoyed this video! Brought back good (and bad) memories 👍😁 also, i highly recommend anyone who is 'on the fence' to signing up to on demand to take the leap, you wont be disappointed!!!!
More videos of Chef crunching numbers/mechanics? Yes please, perhaps explain how silly things like Smash Captains came to be? (And what GW did to counter if they did anything that is)
Watching the 3rd edition recap really reminds me why 40K feels so long to play now compared to then. Units were mostly moving OR shooting, not both, which basically halves the interaction with models during the game, you’re either moving the models or rolling shooting dice. Now in the modern versions of the game you’re always moving models and rolling shooting attacks. I used to play lots of turns in 3rd Ed, even massive games would rock on past turn 6 just because the game was getting quicker as units died. These days it’s a struggle to get 5 turns in an evening, though 10th is a huge improvement compared to 9th in that regard.
Make the codexes free and sell us a fancy book. I literally hate the idea of me paying $60 for a nice book only to have most of the data changed in two months and have to use my phone anyways.
My takeaway is that the last "great" version of classic 40k was 5th ed. Why don't we just all go back to playing that instead of giving GW more and more of our money?
2nd edition is still my favourite and as many people have said I dropped off for a few editions with the launch of 3rd as I felt it took out all the stuff I enjoyed. Having fun with 10th and it’s a very different game not only in terms of the rules but also the sheer number of models on the battlefield. Remember in 2nd when you were lucky to have 3 squads of marines and maybe a couple of characters because the points costs where so much higher.
the thing about edition reviews is that they're very much based on the meta or perceived meta at the time. Whereas some gamers just enjoyed certain editions because they offered something the previous one lacked or overlooked. Overall, I'm impressed by the rules set crafting throughout the years that managed to appeal to and sustain hobby gamers coming back for more and more. Every edition has its good points. When the rules got too bloated, they were culled and then that alienated the players who liked the crunch. Then the rules were too simplistic and players wanted more and more for their armies. Look at the return of The Old World: Goes to show that gamer's didn't mind the hit and wound tables and all those extra rules. Again, not for everyone - and certainly not for new gamers to the hobby, but each edition has it's audience. And which edition you liked the most was probably dependant on what army you were running at the time and what the community was raging on about as to where it stacked in the tier listing of that edition.
6th edition was great and should have gone on for much longer. The allies chart needs to be brought back as it allowed armies to have "Lore" units that still don't have table top units, (Converting Tau Terminators to represent Xv46 battlesuits, using the Tactical marine squad as Squats etc)
Awesome content, highly recommend. Now please do a video of each new unit's added each edition, could even be multiple videos for imperial, xenos and chaos, thoughts?
Love this! ❤ What a passion project of a video. Started playing in the later days of 1st Edition I can really appreciate the amount of work you put in to get all this together. All editions have had their great concept but also issues. Nowadays often wrapped up in a cozy cloud of nostalgia. 😅 For what it’s worth I actually believe 10th edition rules is the best version yet. Initial balance issues? Sure. But the game it self is better than ever. Great gaming days ahead! 🎉
Great video Chef, loved the comprehensive dose of nostalgia! If you were to bring back an old rule for your own personal satisfaction what would it be?
Started at the dawn of 3rd, gave up at the start of 6th (flyer spam and a few other things), took up the mantle again after marriage, 2 kids and finding a career (start of 9th). 9th and 10th are great games and editions, I love the objective focussed gameplay preventing you just blasting the other player off the board as a viable route to winning (most of thr time). I do wish Geedubs would stop trying to treat 40k like a video game for the last two editions. It takes far longer for me to buy, build, and paint a unit than it does to download a patch in an online game. I've never meta chased, but from the point of buying a unit, I have now idea how good its going to be when I actually play the thing "legally" and fully painted
I would really love to see a follow-up or companion video about when each army was introduced and how they changed over the years.
Agreed!
The passion just shines through. Amazing video
Having serious flashbacks to 3rd edition and the endless tables and disagreements over partial hits😂 great video as always guys!!
Oh yeah, and looking down over the blast template and arguing over how many models were hit. Truly they were glorious times.
Yeah, a guarantee for an unpleasant experience with competitively inclined players.
Allowing exhaust pipes, banners and barrels to allow a model to be targeted was such a fucking massive step back I still cant really believe it happened.
I would love a similiar video on the history and evolution of codexes across the editions. This was super interesting
2nd edition… god I’m old! 🤣🤣 still feels like yesterday that I was playing on the carpet with a cardboard cutout of a ork dreddy!!
Absolutely loved this video. 40K has been a huge part of my life since 2nd edition and I appreciate this trip down memory lane. I would love something similar to this but with factions and how their rules changed throughout the years (might be a bit of an undertaking but if there is anyone that can get it done, I know it’s you bosses).
This is really cool. I never realized that the first edition was essentially a scaled up D&D combat and focused on smaller battles. It makes a lot of sense that it didnt start out with such big battles in mind.
It's good that the game is less complicated today, but I still think firing arcs from weapons attached to vehicles is a good idea, It's very strange that I can place my tank behind a building and shoot things out of its rear end.
Wow so many of the currently sold kits are from 4th/early 2000s!
Wow that was awesome. As a person who came in 3rd-4th edition then took a break until 8th . I really enjoyed that , wonderful
When you say 'Overwatch was introduced in 6th'
don't you mean
'Overwatch was REintroduced in 6th & it was now applied on the charge instead of being declared in your own turn to prevent or funnel enemy movement, like it was in 2nd'
Great video. Would love to see some Battle Reports of older editions with some retro models!!!!
Thank you so much for this vid. I've played every version and consequently suffer from "edition-bleed" for the rules. Great to have a vid that helps separate them again in my mind.
Haven't played since 4th edition and man a lot's changed
Great video! As only came into 40K in 9th it’s always fun to learn about past editions. Perhaps you could do a review of each boxes in terms of the models/content and theme of them? And give some views on what would be good in the future.
This is great! I was out of the game from 3rd till 9th so its great to see how each eddition was in the time I missed. What would be cool is an individual video on each eddition, delving deeper in to the rules and maybe following each editions video with a battle report (I understand just how much work that would entail but a guy can dream 😅)
Such impressive work, TT. That's a lot of detail to distill so cleanly - and so fairly. Full victory points to you all!
Fantastic video, please do more like it.
I had not realised that edition changes had been quite so regular for so long. And despite 8th and 10th being overhauls they are not as out of character as I thought.
Got started in second edition nearly 30 years ago and have had every edition since, still not played a single game in 30 years 😂
Same. Started in 2nd end, quit in 3rd ed.
@@entropy2100 glad I'm not the only one lol
Similar story...! 🥲
Im afraid now .
A fate handed to many!
as someone who has always loved warhammer but only got into the game and painting side of it in the last year.. this vid is just special. and makes me very depressed that i started doing this so late into it :P
Dear Chef (and Beard), this was amazing. Like a full fledged documentary. So well produced. So well presented. Amazing. You simply keep on making the best presentend and produced 40k-content.
I really miss armour values and initiative. I got in at 6th and its been downhill since.
The year is 2050. You lost at rock,paper,scissors. You remove your mini that cost you half your salary
Thank you, enjoyed that. Played Rogue trader through to 8th, so apart from being old enough to know better, that was an entertaining journey through different times of my life. More nostalgia flashbacks please.
Glorious to see the games development - I'm loving 10th personally, had loads of fun.
Another great video! This made me rush to my library to find my 3rd edition hardcover rulebook!
Great video Mike! Having played 3rd, 4th, 6th-10th and recently 2nd it was nice to have an overview of them all like that, back to back, nice job 🙂
Fantastic video. I played heavy from 2nd through 4th, then got interested again through Kill Team near the end of 9th, and jumped back in full-force with the launch of 10th. It is an absolute delight to see both what I loved (and didn't love so much) about editions, as well as get a good overview of the editions I missed, and how the game evolved over time.
A series dedicated to even more in-depth looks at previous editions would be absolutely brilliant... and with the quality and passion I've come to expect from Tabletop Tactics, would probably be held in great regard for years - if not decades - to come as a definitive history of the game.
7th edition using standard force organization chart instead of formations and supplement cheese and saying no to malefic daemonology summoning and you were in the golden age of 40k.
Basically 6th but without flyers jinking at no penalty and with updated codexes instead of leftovers from 5th.
What a great trip down memory lane. Played everyone of these. Some great memories
As a side note...
In 2ED the sustained fire dice was specified as having the sides of 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, & Jam.
However, when asked at a Q&A as to why the average roll for a sustained dice was so low Gav Thorpe- in claiming the average was 2- accidentally revealed that GW staff at WHW were accidentally using a different version of Sustained Fire die to the rest of the UK! There's had two 3s, and only a single 1.
Meanwhile, some gamers from the continent (Italy I think) brought out the dice that they had gotten in their box sets (with matching numbers in the translated rule book I believe) which had a single 2 and three 1s.
The look of realisation on Gav's face, who had just hinted at the coming 3rd Edition, looked to me to indicate he had a whole lot of writing to do asap for some things scheduled to head to the printer's soon!
I believe this is why so many of the Index weapon profiles said things like 'as a Bolter, except...' or similar- a massively rushed deadline after the realisation that every reference to sustained fire had to be stripped out.
So many memories of the game. Loved hearing about 2nd Ed again. It was the edition I started with and still play it occasionally
Chef's pleading from the most recent podcast brought me here and I am glad I watched!
Remember the rogue trader days, played through to 3rd and started up again in late 5th, stopped in 7th and switched to 30k, now getting back to 40k in 10th
vid rules, this was really cool to learn about, really have very little context to 40k outside of some books and 9th/10th edition. Loved getting to see how the game has changed!
What an incredible video - very well researched, excellent editing and delivery. Really enjoyed this - do more videos like this...many more!! 😊
One the one hand, nice video! On the other hand, this made me feel old.
Awesome show - reminded me of a Snipe and Wib history lesson. Very cool to see the last 35 years in motion
Epic video Chef! Good job to all of you who worked on it.
This is just great! Could listen to stuff like this for hours!
Great in-depth video, having played 3rd & 4th it was good to look back. Then having a break until 9th and still playing in 10th it’s interesting to see what I missed. Would of been good to have had small details of when certain armies came out in the editions as well throughout.
Very similar situation here, nice summary too :)
An evolution of the armies vid would be splendid!
Man this brings back some nostalgia, mainly for crazy rules I forgot we used to deal with. Superbly done Chef.
I miss deep striking BA land raiders........😅
Excellent video! Really enjoyed couldn’t believe Chef was not going to mention the infamous rhino rush of 3rd edition so caught me off guard mentioning it during the 4th rules changes! Thanks for this content!
Absolutely loved this video, not only the nostalgia from 3rd-7th but understanding where the current gameplay came from, 8tha & 9th (I WAS ON A BREAK! 😂)
Cheers guys!
Brilliant video Chef (and Beard)! Really appreciate the detail and effort. Great job, very informative, and much appreciated! I started in 2nd Edition but the dramatic change to 3rd actually stopped me playing for a couple of editions due to the perceived ‘dumbing’ down (it felt like the life and rich detail got sucked from the game to me)…Then we had the ‘dark days’ of GW’s draconian anti-customer/player era for the middle editions and I didn’t actually start collecting again until 8th Edition (albeit having studied and observed every edition) when GW Community actually reached out to players again… It’s been an interesting ride! 😅
This was genuinely great; I got into the game in 2002, and it was cool to reflect on the progression of the game inthe intevening years (as well as see how RT and 2E worked!).
Last year, 2022, marked my 30th year of following Warhammer 40k. That alone guaranteed my enjoyment of this wonderfully done flashback.
Amazing video!
I'd kind of overlooked I started in 4th edition, never mind having been collecting for around 15 years.
Really interesting thanks! Great to see at what point in time particular rules and themes emerged.
having gotten into 40k in mid 9th edition I've always been fascinated by the games history and it's many little charms, I'd also totally watch a similar video about codexs and other similar topics
This was really cool. I started in 4th, still have a few of the codexes from back then too. Thank you for the nostalgia trip
Absolutely fantastic video Chef and Beard!
Having recently perused my copy of Cities of Death (2006) I couldn't help but notice how the charts in that book are calling 3 ruins claustrophobic and a reasonable number of terrain pieces to use in a game, and how that have changed radically when looking at 9th/10th, maybe a deep dive on just how the terrain and boards of 40k have changed over the years would make for an interesting deep dive? Especially with the brief highlights in this video on how line of sight and cover (with screening) have changed over the years?
Great video! I'd also like to see a history of the armies over time. I have tried to introduce when certain armies, subfactions or characters were introduced, but it's almost impossible as most articles on the "history" of Warhammer 40k are about the lore history.
Absolute beast of a video, it was nice to see some of the editions that I've played and how the game has progressed since then (7th ed)
I am so excited to watch this. Hits the nostalgia button hard!!!
Love this kind of history content. More! Maybe some history of lore development?
Loved the video. It would be cool to have videos like this but for each faction.
Loved this, really interesting to know what the editions were like before I played.
The best vehicle rules were those that had the perspex overlay target sight which you placed over diagrams of the relevant models you were targeting. Definitely the most fun and accurate vehicle combat system I played.
I still have the overlays and codex, I’m thinking of using a modified version in my games. Does anyone else remember these rules?
Fantastic video! Well done! I play a lot of necromunda and it's nice to learn how willpower, cool etc. Are adopted from 1st edition, which something I didn't know. 2nd is my preferred 40k, I really like it, especially hand to hand, which is easy once you know how. I think the hand to hand experience is similar to modern kill team.
Brilliant summary! I started the hobby shortly after 2nd was released and it dominated my teen years. I was appalled by 3rd, never played it and gave up the hobby. I tried to restart in 8th, shortly before 9th, but am only finishing my army (GSC) now to start in 10th hopefully. My rules memory of 2nd is still quite fresh, so there will be quite a leap from 2nd to 10th. Looking forwar to tho!
Would love to see more videos of this kind!
Would love to see a similar video going through the changing of models through the editions, rather than rules :)
Amazing work Chef and Beard! I'd love to see more like this in the future. I haven't been in a position to play 40k much myself until recently, but I've lurked since 5th and I always found detailed breakdowns of the current meta/gameplay quirks of given editions endlessly fascinating. Fantastic presentation and sexy B-roll to boot, what's not to love?
I would love a bat rep for every edition 😅
This was an excellent and informative video, would definitely love more deep dives like this
If you're into casual 40k these bosses are the best in the business and release a ton of content for their on demand subscription. Def worth it.
I've fallen off on watching your battle reports but your non battle report videos are always 1000 percent.
Very enjoyable! I was about 3 years into fantasy battle when rogue trader launched. Among my group of friends (all of us about 12 years old) marines were the "joke" option because they were plastic, not "proper" metal models. How times have changed 😂
I never got the elitism about metal models. It's simply an inferior material in terms of modelling ease and paintjob durability. Only thing it has going for it is the heft in your hand, which I can kinda get, but you can just glue washers under your base if you're so hung up about it...
Then again, I never got the 'book smell' argument regarding ebook readers so what do I know...
@@toferkrz946 true, but 30 plus years ago, plastic models were legitimately terrible... To be fair, met ones weren't much better lol. These days, I'd hate to have to work with metal, it's such a miserable material to work with. I don't even like designing minis for metal, I was glad when my work switched to plastic minis as the process is much nicer from an engineering pipeline.
Thank you for this amazing summary. This definitely brings back memories! ❤
What a blast from the past.
Lads we’ve gotten so old. :’)
Edit: Feck. 3rd edition. The first time I rolled dice in The Emperor’s Name. ❤️
Excellent video both in terms of content and in the quality of the editing. I'd very interessted in a sort of post "mortem" regarding what previous edition were trying to achieve, failing or succeeding ( not in terms of mechanic but in terms of game design, whats feelings they generated that sort of things). And obviously the same video but applied to the old world would be extremly cool ( but i guess not the target audience)
Cheers and thank you for the great work
Thoroughly enjoyed this video! Brought back good (and bad) memories 👍😁 also, i highly recommend anyone who is 'on the fence' to signing up to on demand to take the leap, you wont be disappointed!!!!
More videos of Chef crunching numbers/mechanics? Yes please, perhaps explain how silly things like Smash Captains came to be? (And what GW did to counter if they did anything that is)
Great video, Chef - a fun walk down memory lane :D
Watching the 3rd edition recap really reminds me why 40K feels so long to play now compared to then. Units were mostly moving OR shooting, not both, which basically halves the interaction with models during the game, you’re either moving the models or rolling shooting dice. Now in the modern versions of the game you’re always moving models and rolling shooting attacks. I used to play lots of turns in 3rd Ed, even massive games would rock on past turn 6 just because the game was getting quicker as units died. These days it’s a struggle to get 5 turns in an evening, though 10th is a huge improvement compared to 9th in that regard.
Make the codexes free and sell us a fancy book. I literally hate the idea of me paying $60 for a nice book only to have most of the data changed in two months and have to use my phone anyways.
Damn... this was magnificent!
DAEEEEEMON SAVE 🎉
This one is really cool to see as I played back in 5th and am getting back for tenth. Love y'all stuff.
Lots of people have done 2nd edition battle reports, but I think you guys could do an amazing rogue trader battle report.
I don't miss the cross-referencing of 1st Ed, but the design rules for vehicles, dreadnoughts & robots were awesome. 😋
My takeaway is that the last "great" version of classic 40k was 5th ed. Why don't we just all go back to playing that instead of giving GW more and more of our money?
2nd edition is still my favourite and as many people have said I dropped off for a few editions with the launch of 3rd as I felt it took out all the stuff I enjoyed. Having fun with 10th and it’s a very different game not only in terms of the rules but also the sheer number of models on the battlefield. Remember in 2nd when you were lucky to have 3 squads of marines and maybe a couple of characters because the points costs where so much higher.
the thing about edition reviews is that they're very much based on the meta or perceived meta at the time. Whereas some gamers just enjoyed certain editions because they offered something the previous one lacked or overlooked. Overall, I'm impressed by the rules set crafting throughout the years that managed to appeal to and sustain hobby gamers coming back for more and more. Every edition has its good points. When the rules got too bloated, they were culled and then that alienated the players who liked the crunch. Then the rules were too simplistic and players wanted more and more for their armies. Look at the return of The Old World: Goes to show that gamer's didn't mind the hit and wound tables and all those extra rules. Again, not for everyone - and certainly not for new gamers to the hobby, but each edition has it's audience. And which edition you liked the most was probably dependant on what army you were running at the time and what the community was raging on about as to where it stacked in the tier listing of that edition.
Nice little trip down memory lane, must be the nostalgia but I don't remember 2nd edition (my first and main edition) being that complicated.
I'd like to hear more about how the lore has changed throughout the years.
6th edition was great and should have gone on for much longer. The allies chart needs to be brought back as it allowed armies to have "Lore" units that still don't have table top units, (Converting Tau Terminators to represent Xv46 battlesuits, using the Tactical marine squad as Squats etc)
Awesome content, highly recommend. Now please do a video of each new unit's added each edition, could even be multiple videos for imperial, xenos and chaos, thoughts?
Yes!
Brilliant work, Chef. Very interesting!
Any plans to play through the editions? Give each edition a go, and see how they compare in the playing.
Wow... Fleet, been a long time since I've heard that rule.
Great vid Chef, lot of work went into this one.
I feel like I've earned a degree by watching this! 😅 Well done Chef! 👏
As a DnD player and GM I feel I need to give RT a go. Seems alot more narrative focused
This was super interesting, thanks Chef
Love this! ❤ What a passion project of a video.
Started playing in the later days of 1st Edition I can really appreciate the amount of work you put in to get all this together.
All editions have had their great concept but also issues. Nowadays often wrapped up in a cozy cloud of nostalgia. 😅
For what it’s worth I actually believe 10th edition rules is the best version yet. Initial balance issues? Sure. But the game it self is better than ever. Great gaming days ahead! 🎉
Nice video, quite informative.
Bit of a bummer that nothing about 10th is being mentioned.
Great video Chef, loved the comprehensive dose of nostalgia!
If you were to bring back an old rule for your own personal satisfaction what would it be?
Started at the dawn of 3rd, gave up at the start of 6th (flyer spam and a few other things), took up the mantle again after marriage, 2 kids and finding a career (start of 9th).
9th and 10th are great games and editions, I love the objective focussed gameplay preventing you just blasting the other player off the board as a viable route to winning (most of thr time).
I do wish Geedubs would stop trying to treat 40k like a video game for the last two editions. It takes far longer for me to buy, build, and paint a unit than it does to download a patch in an online game. I've never meta chased, but from the point of buying a unit, I have now idea how good its going to be when I actually play the thing "legally" and fully painted
4th was my introduction to 40k. Still like it and miss it a little. Probably should give Heresy a go.