Nietzsche vs Dostoevsky: Goodness vs Greatness
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- In this video, I compare Dostoesvky with Nietzsche by looking at their lives, careers, writings and philosophies. Who offers a better solution to the problem of nihilism? Is it possible that they complement each other? Who is the masculine father and who is the feminine mother among the two? But first let me answer how their background shaped their views.
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00:00 The modern condition
01:23 Why Dostoevsky vs Nietzsche
03:27 Life and career (life and thoughts)
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16:05 Modern nihilism (rationality)
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I really enjoyed making this video. Dostoevsky and Nietzsche are two of my favorite writers. Who do you want me to compare next? Leave a comment below.
My video on Nietzsche's core philosophy: ruclips.net/video/hBMVlpMHj2g/видео.html
Dostoevsky videos: ruclips.net/p/PLyKyeehuJVIHt5RkSYxpS2OTkttSfdi-f
It would be wiser to go back to your day job.
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Make a video describing all the different types of philosophy for the beginners. It would be a great help✨
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@@fewdose6674 Bertrand Russell's did it already.
Bertrand Russell's - History of Western Philosophy.
Fun fact: Edvard Munch made that painting of Nietzsche in the same colours as of the famous "Scream". When Munch died(in his bed), they found the book Demons by Dostoevsky on his night table.
That seems to be more than one fun fact.
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Nietzsche says that goodness is irrelevant, but Dostoevskij never says that greatness is irrelevant.
Dostoevskij will forever remain my favourite.
Nietzsche says that it is irrelevant for a human's mind. It is unprofitable. Greatness for Nietzsche is overstepping the human's mind by seeming irrelevant in people's eyes. Nietzsche was a dreamer yet very realistic in his thoughts. He wanted to absorb the world and analyse it as the whole. But we are not yet ready for this. We are staying on the bridge of evolution and seems like the finish line is around the many corners. But anyway Dostoevsky's philosophy makes me thinking as much as Nietzsche does.
There is a distinct difference, however, between goodness and greatness. Goodness can merely be emulated, where greatness is related to heroics. The 'hero' outlives his years in the minds and hearts of whom he has affected, and is largely what Nietzsche is searching for in his philosophical quest.
After a life of seeking greatness, and having seen the consequences, I have come to appreciate that goodness is the far more valuable of the two.
I feel like that it's greatness only good to us when we younge and crave excitement and adventure but older we get more we crave stability and family just how many successful people end up being horrible parents because they only chase greatness in their life@@yogi2436
I HIGHLY recommend the MartyrMade Podcast’s episode entitled “The Underground Spirit” which compares how similar both of their lives were and the how the choices they made caused their thoughts to diverge. Absolutely incredible and helped me find my faith again.
Wow, that means a lot. Thank you.
Yeah, that episode is goated
I came back here to tell you the biggest thanks! Now I’m totally haunted by fate and horse
its 5 hours long ffs please give us a tldr
@@seerack24suchalad63 listen to it in parts that’s what I do ffs 😂
My experiences through life have taught me that each, Dostoevsky and Nietzsche, have an important role to play: the spiritual and passionate.
Great video. I also recommend the essay entitled "Nietzche and Dostoevsky", written by Serbian bishop St. Nikolaj Velimirovic (I think that english translation could be found on the internet).
here's the english translation :) ruclips.net/video/6LCCokeQxUU/видео.html&ab_channel=garavid%C5%BEo
I recommend you "Dostoevsky and Nietzsche. Philosophy of Tragedy" by Lev Shestov.
Raskolnikov as a alter-ego of that poor author, dreaming about courage to be a sun of a ***!
Very interesting.
The most interesting thing about this is, in 26:18, Nietzsche's philosophy has a striking similarity to Raskolnikov's in Dostoevsky's book "Crime and Punishment" where he talks to Petrovich about his article "on crime" where he also separates human beings into two categories, and places the "Extraordinary" people above the rest, and compares them to Napoleon and Newton and so on. He says that these people have complete justification in their moral consciousness to stomp out the weak in order to achieve greatness for the rest of the population.
exactly what i noticed
Yes definitely think so. Chronologically it couldn't have been Nietzsche that c and p was referring too, he just saw this way of thinking in some types of intellectuals. Unrivaled prescience 👏
Here is the full video including a short part missing from the video above. ruclips.net/video/xZAC2a97NJ4/видео.html
Thank you. Been looking forward to a video heading down these two greats!
Masterpiece. I’m so drawn to this channel. I’ve listened to this video 3 times already.
Wow, thank you!
I find some of the paintings in the video to be absolutely great..I noticed a description for some of them in the video which I think is a great idea. Its visually informative. Thanks.
Great content, Fiction Beast. This is the first I've seen of your work. I'm gonna go watch the Tolstoy one now. This one really summarized the fundamental differences between the two men and I think you nailed it. Great insights. Thanks!
With the deepest appreciation and respect for your channel.
I have listened and grown with your wisdom of philosophy, religious divisions, sciences, histories, and great literature, languages, and and I thank you.
Art, music, are the glues that hold our world together. People are only human. Human nature 101.
I think it is significant to add that Dostoevsky did not know that his death punishment would be changed to the 4 years of exile in Siberia right until the troopers were reading death sentence ready to shoot and got letter from emperor. Imagine that you wait for 2 month for any hope to come and eventually give up on your life at the execution day with covered face, ready to be shot, but suddenly get another chance to live... Truly divine
I always found many of my ideas about reality in Dostoevskij's novels. Even if I really like Nietzsche's way of thinking, I feel a way stronger connection with Dostoeveskij's personality. (Sorry for my English, I'm Italian)
U did fine bro
Your English is fine mate. Yes Dostoevsky understood humans.
Sorry for my Italian, I am an Indian.
I just can't forgive him for saying he would force himself to 'believe' in Jesus, even if he realized Christianity to be false one day. I understand he was just saying how he felt, and can even understand the desperation, but it forces me to reevaluate much of his work.
You’re missing the point, that statement itself affirms his belief in Christianity and Jesus. It’s a statement that rings true today, as our secular society disproves Christ every moment. True faith means believing in Jesus even if the world says he wasn’t real.
You’re the only channel that I will listen to your content one day to listen the next to watch the video and all the hard work you put behind it. So happy your growing a big fan base. You deserve it.
I appreciate that
What an absolute perfect summary and explanation of the two avenues of philosophy one’s soul can take. Brilliant and masterfully put together. Bravo. Well done my friends.
Wow. You deserve way more subscribers. The comparison is so on point.
This was so well written. Thank you.
Thanks for the content ❤️❤️
Thank you for these vids. Your content is excellent.
This is such a helpful summary of each philosopher's ideas! And the facial hair note was important for scholars like myself.
Absolutely beautiful comparison and precise articulation.
Hey man! I'm totally in love with your vids, especially the ones about Russian literature. This one here was great as well.
Keep up the good work. Compliments from an admirer from India.❤️
Loved it, keep up the good work
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Keep it up bro. Really well made and to the point.
Check out Theodor Adorno's Negative Dialectic and Nagarjuna's dharmas - I wrote my dissertation on Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, Nagarjuna and Adorno. A good way to begin would be to read Asher Horowitz's essay 'Adorno and Emptiness'.
This video is a masterpiece, I've read Dostoevsky one years ago, and Nietzche a little before, and I truly love the way you summarized their philosophy...
One time, an angry guy shout me that these two colossus were incompatible, but, you proved he was wrong, thank you. (sorry for my bad english I'm still learning)
Really appreciate your comment. Your english is fine, so don't let is stand in your way.
Great work! You are amazing.
Outstanding summation
Great video!
i like ninietzsche, according to me he has a realistic view of the word ,setting aside religion..passion,struggle,joy and happiness is a bonus.
Thanks for the great video, made me feel smarter just watching it. I'm looking forward to seeing more of this kind of content. I don't know how my algorithm put this in front of me, but it was a big change from the bikini try on instant gratification stuff I normally watch
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice. Love these.❤
thank you for putting in the time and effort to make this video. i am a writer and this is my struggle.
keep going, your content and videos are so good :)
Thanks so much for your support.
What a delight to listen to your elucidation
Thank you
This video does a really good job at presenting both ideas in a way that makes it up to the viewer to critically think about which is the better philosophical view.
Thank you!
Fantastic video, very well thought out. I’ve really been getting into Nietzsche lately, in great part thanks to videos like this. Thanks!
Thank you!
dont, you'll end up like him.
@@eduardopcr5940 How so?
@@Woodland_Warrior Because there is no wisdom in his words, fantasize about becoming the ubermensch if you want. fancy yourself bold for the sake of the real truth. In the end you and this entire world will turn into dust just like the rest of us, and you will have missed the entire point of existence. That's why Nietzche went crazy.
Everyone choosing their own values other than what society asks, just makes impossible to live in harmony, and its just following an ideology, not the truth.
Great work
Thank you for this
Magnificent analysis of two very different and very inspiring writers! Perhaps a comparison of Mark Twain and Charles Dickens!
Twain vs Dickens sounds intriguing.
@@Fiction_Beast yes 2 worlds, 2 views of mankind the idiot and the greedy and the suffering, from 2 very different but similar sorts of family loving kind men! 😉👍
Excellent essay. Thanks
Thank you for these videos
You're so welcome!
Good weighting analysis! There is difference of good and disaster in the analogy of different Philosophers. 100 marks!
Thank you
Both magnificent authors, each with deep philosophical meanings, but never with the absolute truth. They both hold a fragment of the solution in their works, and that is one of the main problems with society nowadays: Balance. Ideas are almost always led to the extreme due to human flaw.
Balance. 👌🏽 You are in point with that critique
Bold of you to proclaim who does and does not have the "absolute truth" (or that such a thing exists)... SuperSonic172
@@saintburnsy2468 I really wonder why so many people denote my nick with such disdain, as if that alone invalidates the objective facts I comment.
"He who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. He should not expect to recieve anything from the lord. He is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways." James 1:6-8
@@magikbullet5570 Eschewing doubt seems like the path of fanaticism.
Good job buddy:)
Your videos are the best
one of the greatest channels in RUclips keep going and keep giving us more and more great and useful summery about great ideas and great philosophy across the history ♥
Really appreciate the support.
God was never dead to Nietzsche personally
nice man good work as always
👍well said bro...
What's particularly admirable about Nietzsche was how he managed to appreciate Dostoevsky and cling to his anti-Christian, anti-religious sentiment at the same time. That's exactly the balance I hope to strike by the time I'm done reading Karamazov.
(Although it's unknown whether Nietzsche himself read any of his 4 main novels.)
I highly doubt Nietzsche read the brothers Karamazov. It seems more than out of the question to assume you can be anti-Christian (like Nietzsche) while reading that damn book. It’s just my two cents.
I know The Idiot was first translated into German a couple of months before The Anti-Christ was published, and while I don't know when TBK was first translated into German, the first English translation was in 1912. So I would bet Nietzsche was either in his insane period at best, or was a corpse when TBK could have been read in a language he knew.
agreed but Dostoyevsky was comparatively SUCH an enlightened christian but if you think of Nietzsche's time that wasn't the mindset or personality of the predominance of Christian's so you can see why he rallied against it so much
@@uncleusuhI read that book. Loved it. Still an atheist though. It's not unreasonable
@@harryjones84Nietzsche lived surrounded by Protestants and Papists, whose faiths are flawed and untrue. Dostoevsky was an Orthodox Christian, and I think more people should learn about Orthodoxy. It handly answers what neither Protestantism nor Papism can.
This video made me tear up. The way Dostoevsky found his faith in exile is so beautiful. It makes me cry just thinking of the suffering he endured in exile, and the light he found in our Lord God.
For the love of God, don’t wait until your last moments to find Christ. The love of Jesus is so fulfilling that to go without it is like going without water.
PLEASE, I HOPE EVERYONE SEES THIS!!! AMEN!!!
"Slave Morality"
@@thusspokezarathustra1847 You made it so I could like the other posts. "Slave Morality" is correct under certain contexts, but modern moralistic thought is far from stupid or worthless.
I have multiple sclerosis I am being disconnected from the physical form Nietzsche had an unknown illness with very similar symptoms and life experiences I love all the videos explaining his philosophy and life
Thanks for sharing. You're welcome.
I have read about Nietzsche illness and it wasn't MS, it was neurosyphilis, got it from trivial realation with a whore .
this wonderful video cast a light about two great figures ,both were in the shadow inside my mind
your discussion and analysis magnificent.
how could I reach to your level ,what books you advice me to read it .
I believe that people are always looking for conflict even if they don't realize it. If preventing conflicts then is impossible, the trick would be to keep the small conflicts going so they remain small. That's why I am a defender of free speech, even if that is not politically, or scientifically correct speec. At the moment I fear the existence of social bubbles that people are subconsciously yet actively creating around them. This is leading to growing calls to limit the free flowing of ideas. Ideas that differ from the most-commonly accepted ideas. When we stop discussing things we will eventually have no way to pick up a discussion again.
It is fine when like-minded people gather and share information about topics that interest them, but it is dangerous if that group of people sees some entity as a common enemy or represents some form of evil themselves in the eyes of someone else. Nowadays it is easy to block people with different viewpoints from taking part in conversations and this leads to information getting filtered through an ideological lens. A filter managed by the people you follow, protecting you from harmful information before this information has a chance to reach you.
The more activistic the nature of the topic is, the more sensitive people are when it comes to dealing with criticism. This makes people quicker to block others and more eager to look for a source of positive affirmation. People are quick to realize that more radical and outspoken statements will be more efficient in attracting positive affirmation, so people gradually start to use a harder tone when they express their opinions. At some point the moderate statements don't get any attention at all so people will stop posting them. All information that is circulating within a bubble at that point is coming from people who are subconsciously training eachother to believe radical ideas are good ideas.
If every person lives in a bubble of like-minded people with increasingly radical ideas I don't see how society will deal with that. At some point people just won't understand anymore how others don't see what they are seeing.
You mind want cat the free speach free exspression this is tactic from meny tiranyic lieder like Mao ce Staljin and meny others. Just eliminate other from world platform because they thinkinkin and express trut diferent from mainstream propaganda. If some one atain compasion mind and real love he alweys exspress o help never like to punisch othere in order to protect other this is danger to elimanate one make you iritacion this is njorow limitate mind. Just let other to express will in the way they percive reality is the anchwer. if you like to stop conversacion they we need to stop for example mainsream medi informacion 100% stop them to poison with propaganda other. I never belive in vacine or eny force medicine to human just free will I do with my body what i belive is the best for me but never i do to folow 100000 people because they belive difrent from me. Let me be free from my choice not force eny one in the nome of enythink. Buda tech dont belive to enyone if this not make sense for you and Buda say iven I say is trut not nee to belive me be free
This video gives me a toothache, and it is glorious to share it with everyone.
yes, thanks for the video I read Dostoyevsky many years ago. No clue what was his philosophy just the characters interacting and his voice commenting. thank you. Still, remember being unable to express the feelings and ideas contained
Great!
Thanks!
Interesting!
Amazing video
Glad you think so!
Excellent.
This is a great great awesome video
at 20:20 your clip cuts off! I would've loved to know what you had to say about notes from underground
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4:01-4:07 Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche.. differing viewpoints
4:29-5:00 Nietzsche’s lacking male role model
09:24-10:29 Nietzsche: thinking while walking
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18:35-19:34 The problem of reason on meaning -Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky
25:47-26:44 Differences in philosophies: Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche
27:09-27:50 Nietzsche on art
30:02-30:40 philosophies for when low on resources vs when in abundance of resources
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31:43-33:18 philosophies for when low on resources vs when in abundance of resources
33:41-34:12
35:11-35:35
35:37-36:26-37:21 Goodness and greatness: both needed in the world & the purpose of life
38:02-38:41 Antidotes to life: Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky
18:45 - 19:23 I get the feeling we will learn this lesson again the hard way in the not-so-distant future...
Thank you, it was great
Glad you enjoyed it!
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Congrats! this is a really deep and well made reflection about these two geniouses
Thank you!
Very well interpretation, really loved how you used elements of masculinity and femininity here. Although, one thing I was curious (which was not a whole lot mentioned) was Dionysus and what Nietzsche thinks about passion.
So, would like to know what's the most passionate character you have found in your journey as reader of fiction? 😀
That’s a tough question. I would say Zorba the Greek is perhaps the best example of Nietzschean character.
@@Fiction_Beast will check on that
I love the Tchaikovsky in the background...
Well done
Thank you
Wow! Who wrote this?!! Who made this video? Fantastic!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
The conclusion is that greatness itself has its benefits in giving our best effort while being alive but requires ultimate sacrifice. Sometimes it translate for good or bad for those that surround us and that's a power that Nietzsche encourages. Dostoyevsky warning thats such pursuit must be follow with caution and with a great heart because alternative is hell and suffering but if its not achieved then its still is a worthy endeavor for the individual.
Its a beautiful balance but for some men out there is what they are born and meant for.
Every individual or group has its own version what its potential can be and must face the consequences.
There's only action in life. Only action and then we are gone.
Do what you must while being alive. God speed...❤
Beautiful video, keep making videos like this and you could probably get paid subscribers. But maybe a little shorter, I’ve noticed that people tend to like shorter videos.
I really appreciate the support and your tip is also a great one. I have to learn to make shorter videos!
I thank you ❤️
Thank you
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Whats the music in the background,?
Thank u for this awesome video. This channel is one of best channels in RUclips.
Thank you so much!
Awesome episode. One suggestion though - it's probably worth putting some elevator music in the background rather than great classical masterpieces. At some points I felt that I'm trying to listen through your talking to the music and in some the other way around 😅
Don’t talk in public plz
Hey! What’s the painting in 16th minute? So damn stunning 🤩
Nietzsche by Edward munch
Dostoevsky and Nietzsche are two writers that I consider to have accomplished a supreme achievement. And I find it interesting that quite frequently, one who loves either Dostoevsky or Nietzsche, loves the other too. Jung, Heidegger, and Peterson are perhaps the foremost among them. But there are many others as well. Including yourself of course.
Heidegger was a Nazi.
@@davidtrindle6473 interesting... I'm not too familiar with Heidgegger. Thanks for the info. I'm about to go check out his work right now!
I think it’s, because of how how authentic they were as people. “Real recognize Real”
Peterson lol.
I love Dostoevsky but I just cannot stand Nietzsche lol.
Perhaps compare Chekhov, Tolstoy and Gogol.
Interesting thing is Nietzsche's philosophy is masculine & his solution is going back to Nature (feminine) while Dostoevsky's philosophy is feminine & his solution is going back to the god (Masculine).
Yin & Yang.
I love Dostoevsky, honestly I do. I do so much!
Great comparison between Dostoyevsky and Nietzsche. Are their philosophies still relevant today? What progress we humans have made ever since. Or we have been giving up on rationality too quickly and it is still the only solution we have😀
Those are tough questions. Rationality can feed you and protect you. But we humans want more. Lol
We've been regressing since the late 19th century. Human civilization is now in a state of accelerating decay.
thanks
that title is the perfect summary of the two men's work
Nietzsche said Dostoyevsky was the greatest find of his life, and the greatest psychologist ever. In Thus spake Zarathustra The pale warrior character in book one is modelled on Dostoyevsky. When Lou Salome rejected him he was unable to handle it and this was instrumental in his breakdown. Salome went on to become the Muse of Rilke
She was a seductress who rode many coat tails. Stringing men along as a way to capture them and their ideas.
@@henrywolf5332 whipping them along , if the photo of Nietzsche and the cart is anything to go by ! It's their own fault for being such simps. No good blaming Ms. Salome
@@hermesnoelthefourthway I don't blame her, however I won't simp either lol. You got me with the pic haha
@@henrywolf5332 hi , I got a bit of a shock when I first read your reply , as I thought you were referring to a women I've just been thru a terrible situation with (bit similar to Nietzsche and Salome ) although mine sent me rather raunchy semi-naked photos , and then said , don't forget we're just friends!!!!!! I made a film about it , which has proved to be very popular. It was a brutal experience to have to go thru. How anyone can deceive a good man so much is beyond human understanding.
@@henrywolf5332 I've just watched your video. It is really superb. Is that you doing the dancing. Looks like Dionysus!!! And isn't Cerberus the three headed hound of hades who guards the gates of the underworld? There's a great painting by William Blake of Cerberus. I strongly recommend you make more videos and promote your work
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Wow, thank you!
I don't know who you are but this is genius
Thanks
Thanks so much.
... this sort of reminded me of a discussion between Altair and Al-Mualim in the first Assassin's Creed game - about the fragile nature of human society, how it can be exploited in bad faith, and whether we choose to live harmoniously in the absence of systemic morality.
Both. Finding meaning through goodness works. Ambition to be great also works. There exists people who believe in goodness *and* in their capacity towards greatness. In all three cases, Nihilism is permanently subdued.
I think nietzsche would have thought different if he saw the world today
What’s Dostoyevsky’s view of the modern Russian church?
This idea that modern man is so much more elevated because it’s trinkets is one of the most dangerous fallacies of man.
To think people before us could not see clearly fails to grasp the same would apply to all ages and means little.
@@henrywolf5332 I don’t think modern man is more elevated in any way I personally think those in the past where probably more intelligent than us but I think nietzsche would have strayed away from postmodernism and nihilism if he saw the negative impacts it has on modern culture
More literate and deeper thinking.
Greatness comes from the most punning effect of working together to trust and reciprocity one often talked about the other often ignored but both equally important as the foundation for all Cooperative human interaction you know that Shit that makes us great and without it we just suck.
And you don't even have to like people to recognize the importance of working together and anything that impedes that is bad No matter what it is
Nietzsche wound up talking to a horse and spend his remaining days in a mental institution. Fyodor suffered mentally, physically, economically, professionally, even socially, and just like Jordan Belford in The Wolf of Wall Street, he made it home without a scratch, a true legend! RIP!
Dostojevski is writer and you are far from this so maibe you think your critic have point but you are no one people will rimember you are just like dast in road Dostojevski is one wich recive imortality iven today ands in future peoploe wil joy take book from Fjodor. But truth is Fjodor represent the ral deep state of human behevior and sens mesge that we just need to become not racionalist but live full with deep emocion with heart and love not folow materialistic limitate ilusion what is good and bad
@@dantechersi6056 chill bro, maybe take time to comprehend what you read first, and learn to spell properly before attacking someone online like a maniac!
just put all douwn is first lecion idea thoth emocion then with fresch nature inside se what is what have a good journey to new live
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Great video