@NoNoNoNii Royce was nice on his version, I actually like it better because the whole back and forth makes more sense. The meaning of the whole song changes when you swap Royce for Jigga. That said all three are GOATs
It was disrespectful af to minimize Eminem’s relatability down to “I never wanted to kill my mother”. Nobody talked about mental illness, addiction, and trying to gain control of your life in a shit situation more than he did and millions relate to that.
Also, there's probably a lot of people who wanted to kill their mother. Just because Charlamagne doesn't want to doesn't mean others might not have had a terrible childhood. I'm glad for everyone who's had a good home as a kid and have good relationships with their parents, but we can't pretend that the other side isn't true, too.
that's because you most likely just been listening to Eminem, RA The Rugged Man whos a white rapper whos been rapping way longer than Eminem, who has a song with BIG while BIG was still alive, who has been blackballed by the industry mid 90s has plenty songs talking about mental illness and other stuff as his sister and brother where born with disabilities due to his father time on Vietnam, on top of that he is a lyrical genius and many would even say faster rapper than Eminem
@@TheHipHop_Junkie if hes that good, he would have made money with someone by now. eminem came to "power" because of the marketability of him, if rugged man didnt master that thats not eminem's problem. Eminem didn't do it by himself either, and he would be the first to admit that. ESPECIALLY in this day and age of soundcloud and youtube exposure, if ra the rugged man(who ive never been exposed to despite listening to biggie since the 90s, never heard a song with that guy on it) didnt make it, theres a reason for it. Blackballed by the industry sounds like a cop out, theres probably a reason behind why he never became mainstream, and it has 0 to do with eminem. What that reason is, I dont know, because I've never heard an RA the Rugged Man song because for whatever that reason is, he couldnt get a single out into the world for exposure. I was downloading music in the napster days, got all the mixtapes from IRC in the early 2000s before torrents were a thing, so for me to have missed him, with the extent of the music library I've listened to, theres some explanation as to why he never blew up. Music is subjective as hell, but if he truly made a song with biggie when biggie was alive, I should have heard it.
@@agny369 Since my reply keeps getting deleted I'm not going to reply anything else but this ruclips.net/video/Rq7USCK1DNw/видео.html - Original version supposed to be released in 1994 but album wasn't released cause the shit that happened And say do your research Biggie himself said RA was better than him that RA was ill asf
I think the loyalty from Em’s fan base gets deeper every time someone starts trying to push him out of the culture, because everyone knows he has went through it.
Eminem almost has 5 songs with a billion views. He probably has 20 songs with 200 and 300+ million views. So not only can he go bar to bar with any other rapper, but he definitely has the hit songs to crush anyone. Add that with his fan base. There’s a reason he’s the highest selling rapper of all time. Fat Joe ain’t lying, nobody beating Eminem.
Whats even crazier, is alot of his hit songs were all released before youtube existed or got big. So imagine how many more views his music vids and audio would get if they were released in the past 5-10 years. And if the music videos werent censored, im sure that would help. Even old songs which he released 20 years ago have got lots of views and he uploaded them a couple years on his channel.
Ferand_0 9 if we’re talking rappers. I would say the closest battle Eminem could possibly have would be against jay z. His longevity matches Eminem’s. But I still say Eminem would take it. His fan base is unmatched
No Sleep Its been 24 yrs since pacs death and he has one of the largest fanbases in hip hop/rap history now, if he was alive today ems fanbase would be pacs fanbase
@@nefariousmentality9439 eminem has sold alot more than 2pac. 2pacs sales also increased 10fold when he died. There are not many 2pac fans out of America as there are eminem. The majority of hip hop fans are now white, they cant relate to a black man's struggle, if your talking shear numbers, eminem has A LOT more fans than 2pac
@Christopher Sydneus Every single one of them bruh, listen to No Love, Drop The World, Renegade, That's all she wrote, Forever, Dead Wrong, EPMD2, and many more
Eminem beat HOV on Renegade Eminem beat Drake, Lil Wayne and Kanye on Forever Eminem beat Tip on That's all she wrote Snoop says he will never give Eminem a feature coz Snoop knows he'll get washed Charlamagne backed MGK when even MGK fans knew he got the KILLSHOT and everytime Ems music comes up he talks about not relating to songs about Debi/Kim, what about the whole other bunch of tracks like Not afraid, Till I collapse, STAN. Why don't he talk about that coz he doesn't know what real art is.
What's hilarious is the fact that when DMX was on The Breakfast Club, Charlamagne said that MGK was wack, but flip flopped as soon as MGK started beefing with Eminem.
@@franciscoescobar760 i think we should get on the task and tell stevie some eminem club bangers, So that stevie can be sure that Charlamagne is a stupid ignorant fool and nothing else. coz I know Em got some atleast.
Killshot is soooo underrated. MGK did his thing. But once I saw a bar breakdown from Crypt, I loved that song even more, it was insane. Every line had some double meaning, everything he said was more than what it seemed at first. His writing is on another planet!
Most of rappers think that they would win because nobody listens to em in the hood, but they forget that em has a world wide fan base. Not only in America. Keep up the good work and greetings from Romania
Just a fun fact, there's a list of the most motivating songs, and the question is asked what is the most motivating song, what song do you have in your playlist when you go to work out. And worldwide Eminem has number 1 and number 3. Just let that sink in for a minute.
It's like trying to convince someone that Lebron is the greatest player. You can present all the facts and the haters will just say no. Probably why Lebron is so into Em, because he probably relates to him.
Simple fact nobody is beating or replicating Ems success in hip hop no one because hes been the biggest star arguably in hip hop since 2000 maybe even the late 90s that's nearly 22/25 years of multiple platinum diamond albums awards. Basically look around who still going from that era Lil wayne,Jay & Tech 9 is about it everyone else fell off. Can you see any of the crop of rappers out there right now and i mean rappers not mumble shit coming to take over any of those guys let alone Em.
I feel em is underrated honestly, I don’t even feel weird stating it. Knight was saying how stans would defend him outright, but then snapped just like the stans do 😂 I love this guy
EM is not underrated that’s why he is so hated, because they just don’t want to accept that EM the white boy is in the conversation of the greatest, EM is the best selling rapper ever, EM is the only rapper that’s dimond certified, EM is the most streamed rapper ever, EM made hip hop global, EM the only rapper that got a Grammy, Emmy and Oscar and only needs 1 more to get an EGOT, EM is in the hall of fame, So EM underrated ye never
I love you stevie 😂😂 you were chillin, being all objective and focused then Charlemagne said that dumb shit and you just lost it for the rest of the video I'm dead 🤣
Ya Stevie you just lost all credibility to me I understand subjective and all that if it bumps to you or not but honestly it’s just facts to the ear You can’t tell me all those guys make better music than Eminem that’s crazy to me and I dnt even fuck with Eminem like that but I’m not gna say that anyone is better than him that’s crazy Musically lyrically or discography you have to be a hater in some way to say it’s up to the fan base just listen with ur own ears if you fuck with his type of music or not you can’t say those things and beleive it
@@henryperez7197 he was talking about strictly versuz in the beginning which is extremely subjective. You may not have watched the entire video. He’s speaking from the perspective of people that haven’t delved into Em’s catalogue as a lot havent. I think anyone can win a versuz depending on the audience. See 15:30
Charlemagne got to high,hes fucking delusional. N not for nothing,at the end of day, who da fuck decided to give him a platform on this discussion. Take ur sweet ass home n lay the da fuck down with ur boyfriend
Charlemagne is a hater. Lord Jamar is not necessarily a hater. His opinions are just badly formed. Lord Jamar sees Eminem through a narrow perspective. That's all.
craig rankine since when does club music, repetitive words and catchy hooks, mean anything to hip hop? You telling me usher and 5th harmony are better artists than Eminem 😂😂
@craig rankine Yeah you're right. But when was the last time you heard Black Thought or Kendrick in a club? Not every rapper that is a great lyricist or one of the bests is played at a club.
When you played Lose Yourself at the end it gave me goosebumps. As an Em fan , Em has made me the musician and past athlete I was. Em is phenomenal and that's from a Black individual. THAT'S FACT ! It's about longevity and Em is that. He is LeBron in Hip Hop. Verzus battles aren't lyric based unless it's announced that's what type of battle it is. Charlemagne need prayer , dude been a sellout and narrow minded.
I fw your videos so hard man. So open minded with everything and just love to hear what you have to say for reasons like that. Always positivism and I feel like I’m in the room w you listening to a good opinion/conv. Keep the banger videos up man ❤️
Lewis Gilmore wrong. I lost a job opportunity from a person less qualified than me. Lower test scores than me. And it was all because the company wanted a minority write off. So reverse racism is a thing. P.S. dude is my friend. So don’t start the im racist thing. But I didn’t get the job because I’m white and my best friend is black and the company stuttered around and said we understand and will give you a recommendation. Heard nothing from them. So yes reverse racism is a thing and it’s as potent as racism. Sir
@@LewisG13 i had to explain this to a black person that didnt believe he could be racist. I asked him an honest question, because I got kinda offended that he just assumed i was black because i like rap. fact of the matter is that social media has programmed people to be divided, pick sides, and fight with each other. the future of america is at a dangerous flashpoint right now because of it.
At least this clears it up that Charlemagne does not know Eminem's music. If his entire argument is based on not relating to wanting to kill his mother... Also, comparing will be impossible. Because you'll need someone quick enough to even catch everything Em writes at first glance.
@@TM-nh3bk Yeah, he's a curious one imo. He clearly has such a deep love for Hip-hop, but then with this hate or racism or whatever he has with Em, it just makes him sound like a dumbass. There are so many ways to serve that same opinion and not sound so utterly naive about one of the most respected artists in the category. He could have said 'He's not my personal favourite and I believe depending on what is being showcased on a versus there are 7 other big names that could rival him.' Or something that is just not making him sound so stupid and ignorant. It just pollutes the actual conversation. But anyway, I digress. Em would slay no matter who it is. 💪🏽
This is a key point that everyone, including Stans, need to understand. You can't compare rappers if you haven't heard most of the songs those rappers have made. Em is one of my favorite rappers and hands down my favorite lyricist. But a lot of Stans just matter of factly say that EM is the best and they have heard every Em song. And when pushed about how many Jay Z or Wayne or other rapper's songs they have heard they will just name their most popular songs. Like they said, "Hey Siri, play popular songs by Lil Wayne", listen to the first few songs and then make up their mind that Em is better. You have to give other rappers the same chance that you gave Em. If you have listened to most of Em's songs then don't compare him to other rappers unless you have ALSO heard most of THEIR songs. And likewise, to people like Charlemagne, don't compare Em to your favorite rappers unless you have listened to as much of Em's songs as you have listened to your favorite rappers. A rapper's most popular songs are rarely their best songs.
@@MiddleAgedBob 100% Facts!! The question of comparison in itself is SO arbitrary as a concept. (My last statement was tongue in cheek btw to prove this point) Well said 🙌🏽
Knowing and listening to Eminem since 2002 and I’m from algeria 🇩🇿 English is the 4th language in my country...and i have a lot of friends (stans) like me from algeria , that explains how huge em is 😁👻
I absolutely love how Stevie went from someone who thought of em as just a quirky rap artist, to being a fierce defender of his discography! 🤗..... BTW there's quite a few em tracks that I don't fuck with.... but nobody who has actually listened to his music in full can deny his talent.... unless you're just straight up hating! 🤷♀😑
But his discography ain’t fucking with Jay . He just would lose . In a versus ? Jay is smoking Em . Especially if they did it in person like they’ve been doing lately .
@@manuelmorales6191 Jay = Jay Z? Just for clarification. I don't know. I mean, if you take the songs and verses that already exist, I'll give you that. But if they would get head-to-head and had time to prepare, knowing they'd have to compete? For one - that would be EPIC! And I couldn't predict who'd win. Eminem has a lot of songs and verses that aren't really saying much, I'll give that to anyone who's asking. More concentrated on the rhyming than on the content (yea yeah... I know, but it's not completely wrong to say so). I don't know if, when both parties would know it's a 'battle' and that everything counts: rhyming, content, flow etc... I wouldn't be able to predict who'd win. Because the preparation would be different than it is for just making a song for your own album. That'd be like writing a story for a competition vs writing one for your own pleasure. So. Can we make that happen now? Give the contestants x weeks to come up with their verse, get a jury who isn't in either fan-group together, then give them the beat and let them at it. That'd be amazing!
@@manuelmorales6191 Apparently not. Tried to find something on that online, but couldn't. But I'm so glad you took the time to politely explain it to me instead of ridiculing my ignorance. Have a fucking amazing life. Cheers, mate.
hes just a hater bro. em helped him out with something and they even hung out then he goes behind his back and talks trash about his songs. so em dissed him on kamikaze and he has been salty about it ever since, no matter ur personal veiw on em u cant deny his skill behind the pen.
Charlamagne is a nobody making his name off of somebodies. Same old bullshit and some people listen to it and take it seriously. Even naming himself after a somebody in the form of King Charlamagne. Mans a walking cliche.
TheLegend27 Facts. I was about to mention the movie "Bodied" as well. Charlamagne is in that movie and Em produced it. See people gotta know! Charlamagne and Joe Budden and Lord Jamar are just fucking haters when Em gives them respect and all they do is stab him from behind. Hate fucking snakes. Crook and 50cent real Gs who are real and loyal. True ride till die homies and they monsters with rap music. Real recognize real.
I was watching eminem live in Korea.....yo, the whole crowd rapped the whole damn song with him word for word. That shit was crazy. Imagine like 10 thousand people in unison rapping lose yourself. That shit was wild. If you guys ain’t seen it, go see it.
I wish more people thought the way Stevie thinks! 👊 He earned my respect when I seen him for the first time on a reaction and he keeps earning more by thinking in not just other people's shoes but EVERYONES shoes. Thanks bro keep em coming.
That's what I say, there is a reason why he has so many fans. They make it sound like millions of people are crazy because we like his music. EDIT: I don't know if he is the best because even though I like hip hop I don't have the knowledge to make that statement, but I do love his music and I'm not a Stan. Wich could also mean that his music has trascent the hip hop genre listeners, that's why he has so many fans.
That is a horrible metric to go off of, though. I love Em, and I think he is one of the best rappers and he is my favorite lyricist. But let's examine your argument. Elvis Presley sold around 1 billion records. FAR more than rockers like Chuck Berry and Little Richard sold. Does that mean Elvis was better than them or does it mean that there was a larger pool of people WILLING to give his music a chance. Look, I'm a 45 year old white dude. I discovered Hip Hop well before Em came on the seen. But even I didn't discover Hip Hop until Run-DMC teamed up with Aerosmith in a song. Likewise, I know a ton of white rap fans who were introduced to rap by listening to Eminem. Why is it that SOOOO many of us white Hip Hop fans were introduced to Hip Hop through white artists? Maybe it is the same reason that so many black Hip Hop fans don't give white rappers a proper chance. I'm not claiming racism. But maybe it is just human nature to be initially drawn toward artists that we have the most in common with. A smaller percentage of the white population listens to rap music than the black population. But because we are the majority, white people are still the largest consumer of rap music. And if people are drawn to artists that look like them and rap about life experiences they share, then...well, I'm just saying that having the most fans doesn't necessarily mean you are the best.
Such a great reaction to this conversation, very objective and open minded. There are Eminem fans out there who are open minded, I feel I'm one of them. But even just based on songs, if we're being "Objective", Eminem has amazing songs in every single category. Motivational, emotional, uplifting, angry, sad, funny, crazy, genius concepts, collaborations, freestyles. He covers them all and not only that, he makes hits, not just because he has obsessed fans, he makes great music and he knows how to make a catchy hook, but never makes it corny with shit lyrics.
Good job Stevie.. I was the same with Em never started “listening” to his versus until later on and he has made me realize how much talent he really has in that pen . 🖊
@@C.P.Brown_ you really said lyrically? If you had said Em would have lost in any other way you might have been wrong, but at least it wouldn’t have looked absurd… saying Em would lose to him lyrically is the most objectively false thing imaginable… Like so absurd I can barely imagine you aren’t trolling
I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE OF CHARLAMAGNE saying he "can't relate to killing my baby mama"... Em even made a song sort of apologizing to Kim for that old song... Charlamagne talks like that's all Eminem ever talks about in his music... Jesus Crist... he's such a terrible hater... I hate this guy 😑 kinda like Nick Cannon when he says he can't relate to Eminem's songs because he be doing drugs... even though Em is sober for 11 YEARS... they keep mentioning songs from fucking 20 years ago, like My Name Is, as a "bad example" of his music, and it PISSES ME OFFFFFFFF 😬 BUT.... I love you Stevie 🥰 thanks for another great video ❤😊
@UDONTWANT THESMOKE I mean, the only rapper my grandmother, who died 10 years ago, knew was Snoop Dogg. That may not be the criteria we want to go by. Em is one of my favorite rappers, and hands down my favorite lyricist, but we shouldn't judge the quality of a rapper based on how many people, who know nothing about rap, like them or have heard of them. For example, a hell of a lot more people know who Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer are than know who Nas or Andre 3000 are.
Say what you say by Eminem is a banger! React to that!!! He dissed Jermaine Dupri and Dre is on it too. Charlamange doesn’t even know any of Eminem’s catalog and is hating because Em don’t like him
For real, I never understood the 'club banger' argument, like who the fuck wants to listen to the same style over and over? Em's got enough of them, he just got a lot more than that.
I slept on Em. All these years and I thought oh he can just rap fast....until recently I really listened and discovered what Em can do. His range, his discography, his freaking ARSENAL. I was blown away n continue to be. Any1 that listens to Em will become a Stan becoz He blows u away. Amazes u. GIVES u a high. Theres a high u get from listening to him that leaves u wanting more n more becoz ainy nobody else can give u that high!!! Aint No1 else can do what he do! Hes a musical freakn Mastermind! Wordsmith! RapGod.
dude since u never heard all of em shit , then let me tell u this .. to every mood or situation there is an eminem song , whether happy sad angry high low deep emotional , and u even get a plus one for the sick lyrics...
While I basically agree and I love Eminem to pieces, I think it's pretty hard to find romantic songs from him. Hell, the closest thing to a healthy relationship on his songs would be his verse on "Kill for you" with Skylar Grey. (and it's not exactly healthy either. They just don't kill each other but other people, so that's a bit better? Maybe?) So - he's got a song for *nearly* every mood or situation. But since I'd also probably get distracted by the lyrics if my partner would put him on during romantic time, who cares, right?
@@frizzlethecat2084 well technically ur right since em doesn't have that cheesy type of romance , or lets say the good romance ! but on the other side his kind of romance songs ( love u more , crazy in love , die alone , space bound , etc ..) when u relate to them ,and m sure everyone does at a certain point, u feel like he's doing more than enough at expressing ur anger and love at the same time , its like more emotional and mature ! so lets leave the cheesy love songs to pop music or i donnu what genre is that xD
The way I am, sign for the moment, lose yourself, till I collapse, without me... That's 5 that are already almost impossible to beat. Take 15 more like the ringer, love the way you lie, not afraid, renegade, I will... That's 10 already that may destroy anyone and is diverse. If you want to add pure rap you can add songs like mosh, marsh, Godzilla, rap God, no love. Space bound, bad guy, headlights... Amd there are so many more. I did not even include Stan or shock value shit or disses. Fan base aside em can still wash 99% of the greats. Just look at the list of songs he has.
"I never related to this artist, I never wanted to [states exact thing the artist talks about]" - someone who don't understand the dimensions of relating to material at all
The way Stevie said Charlelame lost all credibility when he said Em would be Redman if he was black, was exactly how I felt when he said he listens to Drake more than all of those others mentioned.
Facts! I’m half chinese and half italian and im from italy, you are talkin FACTS! Bro u’re great, this is why i follow your videos! Un saluto dall’Italia, ciao bello!
I'm so glad that you brought up the impact of music. Because that's really what it's all about. Every artist impacts a specific demographic. I think want to come to versus it should be about what songs should every demographic. Not everybody is going to like hi my name is but Lose Yourself is universal!
I appreciate your thoughts and perspective hear Stevie. I am a white fan girl who does struggle with understanding the constant debate of where Eminem fits into music and history. I've been riding with Em for 20 years and this argument of where he is placed never goes away or seems to get old.
All real hip hop heads know Eminem is right where he belong. Literally any rapper who has respect for lyricism respects Eminem and his contribution to music as a whole
@@skermcgurt8681 You're right but for me I kinda stay in the mainstream music lane so the criticism I hear comes from people who do not appreciate the complexities of Em's lyrical and creative skill so I'm always defending Em but meet similar arguments like we see here. I've had to defend why I love Eminem music and how he's contributed to the music culture often. I work with youth so every few years the same argument comes back around after Em releases a fire track or album, been like that for 20 years now🤦🏻♀️
It's never gonna happen. You really think Charlamagne would let anybody on the show that could actually refute what he says with articulated logic. But I agree, I'd love to see that
Bangers that Stevie vibes with heavy in reactions...so Stevie EM got Bangers like 1. *Lose Yourself* 2. *Till I Collapse* 3. *Mosh & White America* 4. *Godzilla* 5. *The Way I Am* 6. *Superman* (he haven’t yet but I think he would say it’s a banger of a track tho) 7. *Lock It Up* 8. *Infinite* 9. *Cold Wind Blows* 10. *Won’t Back Down* 11. *No Love* 12. *Renegade* 13. *Those Kinda Nights* 14. *No Regrets* 15. *Venom* 16. *Forever* 17. *Yah Yah* 18. *Patiently Waiting* 19. *Dead Wrong ft Eminem* 20. *8 Mile* 21. *Forgot About Dre* 22. *Killer* 23. *Favorite Bitch* Many more but I will stop but again I do believe Em has many bangers in my opinion.
I've been on the eminem train for a long time and before its been because of his bangers. After watching your videos you get a whole new appreciation for his music. Lose yourself will go toe 2 toe with any other song out there. Eminem does have a few club songs but nothing super crazy. Eminem is just the most well rounded rapper/ songwriter there is. 🔥
I'm convinced Charlemagne doesn't actually listen to hip hop or he is just suffering with memory relapse, Every guest feature Eminem has done he's washed rapper's , So are we suppose to just ignore that renegade, forever, Never happened.
Lose yourself, way I am, my name is, love the way you lie, not afraid, rap god, without me, Stan, mockingbird, til I collapse, and that’s just off top without ft like drop the world, forever. Eminem has songs that can’t be topped.
First time hearing "I don't give a fuck" he got my attention. He blew and I liked his ability but hated the clown stuff he did. I wasn't really messing with em much after that, but going back and reviewing his stuff, it's fair to say I'm a Stan, but that's grounded in respect for him as an artist, and a rapper. I go back and forth about where he ranks as greatest of all time, but this man's launched careers, focused on mental health issues, inequality, classism, addiction, abuse, etc. If he was unskilled, that alone would be enough to make him a hero to most, add his talent and well you can't ignore him, that fan base ain't an accident.
Bruuuh! Lose Yourself 'Till I Collapse Bad meets Evil Sing for the moment Renegade The list goes on and just like Captain America said "I could do this all day."
I think the simplest way to put it: Eminem is a god lyrically, literally a rap god. When Eminem fans hear a rap song, they will listen to the lyrics and the craft and judge it by that. But rappers like Drake, JayZ, Wayne, Kendric etc. are way better vocally and have better beats, and that's what their fans hear first. Eminem is not an artist that makes club bangers. I think people who hate on Em don't really understand the craftmanship that goes behind his lyrics and don't have the ear for that, only hear his vocals and hence hate him because of that.
I disagree, i prefer Eminem because of his flows, rhyme schemes, lyrics, cadance and everything! The only think any of those other rappers got on em is the beats
@James Anderson I personally prefer Eminem. I was trying to give a neutral view, and I'm pretty sure if you ask a random person on the street to compare Em's SINGING ability to Drakes, Drake would be the clear winner.
Club - infinite, multiple features with artists like akon Gym - a literal plethora with tracks like Till I collapse Motivational extra - lose yourself and others Wanna feel like you're tripping - Rap God and Godzilla Wanna learn literature - Marsh, book of rhymes, the way I am, and almost all of his songs. Wanna laugh? - Superman? ( I find it funny ), without me, and others Wanna troll someone? - fack and ass like that got your back Diss tracks- do I need to tell you? Touching songs- mocking bird comes to mind Psychotic? - Kim, Bonnie and Clyde, Criminal....like bruh And tracks like kings never die, leaving heaven, caterpillar, white America and many many many more. He's got a track for every situation. He's a versatile rapper with bangers after bangers to back it up.
Stevie I love that your clearly not racist and each video your almost never biased and when you were you said it outright which shows major transparency ..respect to you Stevie for an always objective perspective
I think you guys in the states get so caught up in thinking the U.S is the be all and end all. Let’s do it this way...you tell me what songs will beat these. 1 - lose yourself (washed) 2 - till I collapse (washed) 3 - Stan (washed) 4 - renegade (washed) 5 - not afraid - over a billion streams (washed) 6 - love the way you lie - nearly 2 billion streams (washed) 7 - the way I am (washed) 8 - the real slim shady (washed) 9 - hi, my name is (washed) 10 - Godzilla 11 - the real slim shady (washed) 12 - lock it up 13 - darkness 14 - forever (verse alone, washed) 15 - sing for the moment (washed) 16 - white America 17 - forgot about Dre (washed) 18 - guilty conscience (washed) 19 - patiently waiting (washed) 20 - fight music with d12 (washed) And that’s just off top.
I disagree with Stevie, I think Em genuinely makes the best rap music, Kayne hasn’t made many classics in the past few years besides Kids See Ghosts. Stan is more iconic than any of his classics too. Music is subjective sure but Em has at least like 6-7 classic albums. Also, you were thinking of Lose Yourself, one of the best songs across all genres. 26:18 🔥🔥🔥
Man have you ever been to an Eminem concert? This guy filled the biggest stadiums in Australia multiple nights in multiple cities at the age of 46 . He had the full stadium rapping along to all his songs.... amazing night I had ,cannot compare to any other concert.
Stevie I know you don't rock with ems music but surely you can't say that people worldwide have whack ears , cos I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be listening to his stuff on loop if we thought his beats are whack etc. And I listen to all types of music. I even listened to a whole bunch of classical , opera, to rock to everything else. I love music period and I listen to ems stuff all the time. You always keep mentioning u don't rock with his music 'like that' ... Little jabs man. like your trying to save face with the black community by sayin u don't listen to him ,just only on reactions. Waiting for the day you just say you really like his music period and that he is one of the greatest 'artists' period. Not just that "he is one of the greatest ’rappers' ...but.... " We all have different tastes in music ,however you can't deny the millions of people worldwide who love ems music compared to the amount of ppl with the same views as yourself. Shame I hear u saying that line in so many videos.
"I never wanted to kill my mother. I never wanted to kill my baby mom" I can't stand when people use the whole "Em raps about killing his wife and raping his mom" thing as a go-to sentiment when it comes to Em's music, acting as if that's majority of his discography. Like..... theres soooooo many Em songs where he's rapping about meaningful shit; Til I Collapse, Not Afraid, Phenomenal, Lose Yourself, Sing For The Moment, etc. Besides, Em pretty much apologised to his mom (Headlights) as well as Kim (Bad Husband) which quite alright doesn't erase the things he said before, but is still a good and mature thing he did imo.
I love Bad Husband because he's honest about being a bad husband. I hope he talked to Kim face to face before that song already (I think he did? Idk, not a true stan here, I don't wanna know personal shit if possible) So most of his relationship-with-females-songs end terribly, but that doesn't automatically mean Eminem wanted it to be this way, or even that he likes it or that he actually wants others to be in that same boat. When I first listened to "Love the way you lie" I was intoxicated. It was just so powerful and described the vicious cycle of toxic love in a way that made it relatable even when I've never been in anything even close to it! If CTG really listened to those kinds of songs and still can't related (!) that just means he's not a very empathetic person. Empathy means putting oneself in someone else's place and seeing their side of things, even when it's not the one you would sympathize with. So of course as a woman, I'd sympathize more with the woman in the songs but since it's from HIS perspective, I can't help getting his side, too. They also function as a good warning... "If your partner is displaying some of these traits? See that you get out of it before he ties you to the bed and sets the house on fire!" 😉
Stevie talk your shit !!!! This is becoming one of my favourite review channels , and it’s so refreshing that racism is never tolerated. Lose yourself and Stan are 2 of the biggest and best rap songs ever!!!!
To gain that kind of fanbase you have to be something extraodinary, that means something.. If he would start making shity music,album after album the fanbase would become smaller...People become Stan's becouse he gives them the reason to..
I cant wait for ems next album. You know hes going to go all out to prove these haters wrong. Theres a movement against him that he needs to put a holt to 👌
I'm annoyed at the way these people who say "he's a better rapper but worse music" better music isn't just calculated by how many people dance to it. The reason why eminem fan base is so loyal and large, is because of the amount of songs he makes that literally save lives. He makes songs that make you feel strength even when you hate yourself and have suicidal thoughts. On that note, his music is 'better' because of how much value the music has to all those fans. As opposed to rappers who have 'bangers' which people dance to for 5 seconds then move on to the next 600 songs which give them the same short term dose of excitement. That means a lot less than music that literally has saved peoples lives.
Mumble rappers have their songs played in clubs, that doesn’t mean they are good, it’s just the beat, dancing beats. EM has the biggest loyal fan base in the world without being played on the radio everyday and without being played in clubs, that says a lot, that shows the amount of impact he has with his music/ rap on people, He doesn’t need clubs or radios to play his music. Rhyming scheme, lyrics, double/ quadruple meaning, how he rides any beat, that’s what rapping is, that’s a true artist. He is THE G.O.A.T,
“Everything he puts out is gold” um have we been wrong Stevie? One of the biggest reasons he has stabs is because it’s real bro it’s not just biased, we recognize the greatness before us
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If Rakim says that eminem is one of the GOAT's, then who tf is Charlemagne the Dog? Eminem is one of the best lyricists, fight me.
The dog 😂😂😂
Lol
Charlemagne the Fraud?
Skipper, I respect your dedication to that franchise. I love me some penguins when my son wants to watch it 🤣
I can’t even fight you. #facts
We acting like forever didn’t happen, and renegade didn’t happen. Yikes
Charlemagne is making himself like really a donkey
@NoNoNoNii Royce was nice on his version, I actually like it better because the whole back and forth makes more sense. The meaning of the whole song changes when you swap Royce for Jigga.
That said all three are GOATs
It just the result of a racist society... Americans don't know how to give a objective argument. Charlamagne inmediately went to race. imagine...
Or all of Bad meets evil, and even dead wrong by biggie
He also mentioned TI and we all know what happened on All she wrote
It was disrespectful af to minimize Eminem’s relatability down to “I never wanted to kill my mother”. Nobody talked about mental illness, addiction, and trying to gain control of your life in a shit situation more than he did and millions relate to that.
FACTS!!
Also, there's probably a lot of people who wanted to kill their mother. Just because Charlamagne doesn't want to doesn't mean others might not have had a terrible childhood. I'm glad for everyone who's had a good home as a kid and have good relationships with their parents, but we can't pretend that the other side isn't true, too.
that's because you most likely just been listening to Eminem, RA The Rugged Man whos a white rapper whos been rapping way longer than Eminem, who has a song with BIG while BIG was still alive, who has been blackballed by the industry mid 90s has plenty songs talking about mental illness and other stuff as his sister and brother where born with disabilities due to his father time on Vietnam, on top of that he is a lyrical genius and many would even say faster rapper than Eminem
@@TheHipHop_Junkie if hes that good, he would have made money with someone by now. eminem came to "power" because of the marketability of him, if rugged man didnt master that thats not eminem's problem. Eminem didn't do it by himself either, and he would be the first to admit that. ESPECIALLY in this day and age of soundcloud and youtube exposure, if ra the rugged man(who ive never been exposed to despite listening to biggie since the 90s, never heard a song with that guy on it) didnt make it, theres a reason for it. Blackballed by the industry sounds like a cop out, theres probably a reason behind why he never became mainstream, and it has 0 to do with eminem. What that reason is, I dont know, because I've never heard an RA the Rugged Man song because for whatever that reason is, he couldnt get a single out into the world for exposure. I was downloading music in the napster days, got all the mixtapes from IRC in the early 2000s before torrents were a thing, so for me to have missed him, with the extent of the music library I've listened to, theres some explanation as to why he never blew up. Music is subjective as hell, but if he truly made a song with biggie when biggie was alive, I should have heard it.
@@agny369 Since my reply keeps getting deleted I'm not going to reply anything else but this
ruclips.net/video/Rq7USCK1DNw/видео.html - Original version supposed to be released in 1994 but album wasn't released cause the shit that happened
And say do your research Biggie himself said RA was better than him that RA was ill asf
I think the loyalty from Em’s fan base gets deeper every time someone starts trying to push him out of the culture, because everyone knows he has went through it.
Eminem almost has 5 songs with a billion views. He probably has 20 songs with 200 and 300+ million views. So not only can he go bar to bar with any other rapper, but he definitely has the hit songs to crush anyone. Add that with his fan base. There’s a reason he’s the highest selling rapper of all time. Fat Joe ain’t lying, nobody beating Eminem.
Whats even crazier, is alot of his hit songs were all released before youtube existed or got big. So imagine how many more views his music vids and audio would get if they were released in the past 5-10 years. And if the music videos werent censored, im sure that would help. Even old songs which he released 20 years ago have got lots of views and he uploaded them a couple years on his channel.
@@ferand_0948 But Drake isnt a rapper, though. He isnt a part of the conversation.
still waiting for a hater to comment here so we can flame his ass
@@GigachadSmalldickslayer23 😅😂😂😂😂 .... We are stans
Ferand_0 9 if we’re talking rappers. I would say the closest battle Eminem could possibly have would be against jay z. His longevity matches Eminem’s. But I still say Eminem would take it. His fan base is unmatched
Bro, I'm Persian and lemme tell you, Em got like 40M fans just in Iran !!! let that sink in
40M fans? sounds like your talking tupac numbers when it comes to fans but that is a lot of fans in just that one country damn,
That sounds like cap
@@nefariousmentality9439 eminem got a lot more fans than 2 pac
No Sleep Its been 24 yrs since pacs death and he has one of the largest fanbases in hip hop/rap history now, if he was alive today ems fanbase would be pacs fanbase
@@nefariousmentality9439 eminem has sold alot more than 2pac. 2pacs sales also increased 10fold when he died. There are not many 2pac fans out of America as there are eminem. The majority of hip hop fans are now white, they cant relate to a black man's struggle, if your talking shear numbers, eminem has A LOT more fans than 2pac
Em definitely has more international fans than any other artist.
James facts!
i'm from iraq and yes eminem is a G.O.A.T lyrically god
I born and raise in sri lanka eminem is a rap god in sri lanka
Facts!!!
More than the population of America
So according to Charlamagne, if ur black ur better than Eminem? Eminem washed everyone of them rappers he mentioned on their own songs, debate over
facts.
@Christopher Sydneus Which one didn't he wash, if i may ask?
@Christopher Sydneus some he’s been even with, MOST he’s washed 🤷🏻♀️
@Christopher Sydneus Every single one of them bruh, listen to No Love, Drop The World, Renegade, That's all she wrote, Forever, Dead Wrong, EPMD2, and many more
Eminem beat HOV on Renegade
Eminem beat Drake, Lil Wayne and Kanye on Forever
Eminem beat Tip on That's all she wrote
Snoop says he will never give Eminem a feature coz Snoop knows he'll get washed
Charlamagne backed MGK when even MGK fans knew he got the KILLSHOT
and everytime Ems music comes up he talks about not relating to songs about Debi/Kim, what about the whole other bunch of tracks like Not afraid, Till I collapse, STAN. Why don't he talk about that coz he doesn't know what real art is.
What's hilarious is the fact that when DMX was on The Breakfast Club, Charlamagne said that MGK was wack, but flip flopped as soon as MGK started beefing with Eminem.
Let’s not forget eminem washed DMX in got to sleep
@@franciscoescobar760 i think we should get on the task and tell stevie some eminem club bangers, So that stevie can be sure that Charlamagne is a stupid ignorant fool and nothing else. coz I know Em got some atleast.
That’s why it has to be Andre 3000
Killshot is soooo underrated. MGK did his thing. But once I saw a bar breakdown from Crypt, I loved that song even more, it was insane. Every line had some double meaning, everything he said was more than what it seemed at first. His writing is on another planet!
Most of rappers think that they would win because nobody listens to em in the hood, but they forget that em has a world wide fan base. Not only in America. Keep up the good work and greetings from Romania
I am an Arab from the Middle East.. eminem will wash everybody and i watch your channel because of eminem.. he is a universal figure (goat)
Mee too
THEY CAN'T THEY CAN'T
-- Stevie Knight 2020
Just a fun fact, there's a list of the most motivating songs, and the question is asked what is the most motivating song, what song do you have in your playlist when you go to work out. And worldwide Eminem has number 1 and number 3. Just let that sink in for a minute.
Nah nah , let's that sink in for an hour
It's like trying to convince someone that Lebron is the greatest player. You can present all the facts and the haters will just say no. Probably why Lebron is so into Em, because he probably relates to him.
Young Manic exactly lol
“They do the same shit to Brady” GOATS are always gonna have people ignoring facts
No rapper is beating Eminem's "Lose Yourself" and i stand(i stan) by that.
Between that or till I collapsed
Simple fact nobody is beating or replicating Ems success in hip hop no one because hes been the biggest star arguably in hip hop since 2000 maybe even the late 90s that's nearly 22/25 years of multiple platinum diamond albums awards. Basically look around who still going from that era Lil wayne,Jay & Tech 9 is about it everyone else fell off. Can you see any of the crop of rappers out there right now and i mean rappers not mumble shit coming to take over any of those guys let alone Em.
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@@RK-zf1jm Joyner pretty good and hopsin
Lose yourself is an automatic point but thats only 1 song
I feel em is underrated honestly, I don’t even feel weird stating it. Knight was saying how stans would defend him outright, but then snapped just like the stans do 😂 I love this guy
My eyes popped out the moment he went off 😂😂 hahaha I was trying to figure out what you meant until I got to that part
I don’t think Eminem is underrated, what i do think is that Eminem is under appreciated
EM is not underrated that’s why he is so hated, because they just don’t want to accept that EM the white boy is in the conversation of the greatest, EM is the best selling rapper ever, EM is the only rapper that’s dimond certified, EM is the most streamed rapper ever, EM made hip hop global, EM the only rapper that got a Grammy, Emmy and Oscar and only needs 1 more to get an EGOT, EM is in the hall of fame, So EM underrated ye never
@@cr9477yep def under appreciated & over hated.
Loose yourself is like the eye of the tiger of this generation
Also til i collapse. One of the best workout songs just gets you pumped
I love you stevie 😂😂 you were chillin, being all objective and focused then Charlemagne said that dumb shit and you just lost it for the rest of the video I'm dead 🤣
Ya Stevie you just lost all credibility to me I understand subjective and all that if it bumps to you or not but honestly it’s just facts to the ear You can’t tell me all those guys make better music than Eminem that’s crazy to me and I dnt even fuck with Eminem like that but I’m not gna say that anyone is better than him that’s crazy Musically lyrically or discography you have to be a hater in some way to say it’s up to the fan base just listen with ur own ears if you fuck with his type of music or not you can’t say those things and beleive it
@@henryperez7197 he was talking about strictly versuz in the beginning which is extremely subjective. You may not have watched the entire video. He’s speaking from the perspective of people that haven’t delved into Em’s catalogue as a lot havent. I think anyone can win a versuz depending on the audience.
See 15:30
Charlemagne got to high,hes fucking delusional. N not for nothing,at the end of day, who da fuck decided to give him a platform on this discussion. Take ur sweet ass home n lay the da fuck down with ur boyfriend
Charlemagne haaaates Eminem-almost as much as Lord Jamar does...
Charlemagne is a hater. Lord Jamar is not necessarily a hater. His opinions are just badly formed. Lord Jamar sees Eminem through a narrow perspective. That's all.
craig rankine nigga lyrical rappers are not to bump in the car or clubs and still Eminem have some bangers or you heard j Cole or Kendrick in the club
craig rankine since when does club music, repetitive words and catchy hooks, mean anything to hip hop? You telling me usher and 5th harmony are better artists than Eminem 😂😂
@craig rankine Yeah you're right. But when was the last time you heard Black Thought or Kendrick in a club? Not every rapper that is a great lyricist or one of the bests is played at a club.
He hates him almost as much as skip hate lebron
When you played Lose Yourself at the end it gave me goosebumps. As an Em fan , Em has made me the musician and past athlete I was. Em is phenomenal and that's from a Black individual. THAT'S FACT ! It's about longevity and Em is that. He is LeBron in Hip Hop. Verzus battles aren't lyric based unless it's announced that's what type of battle it is. Charlemagne need prayer , dude been a sellout and narrow minded.
"Em is LeBron in Hip Hop" and it was stated by you, a black person... Wonder what Lord Jamar would say about it lmao
@@damianoabbina9967he’d beg for another interview to stir the pot n be dissed again just to be relevant
I fw your videos so hard man. So open minded with everything and just love to hear what you have to say for reasons like that. Always positivism and I feel like I’m in the room w you listening to a good opinion/conv. Keep the banger videos up man ❤️
Some rich patreon members gotta recommend Sing For The Moment and Drug Ballad
Oh yeah...
yes please sing for the moment 🙏
🤣 That's funny I was checking out prices yesterday and had similar thoughts...lol
8 mile road would be nice too
@@melvingenao550 he has done it for Pateron, I think he'll release it soon
All I heard from charla was racism and reverse racism. Like people like that are the damn problem. I’m so sick of that “if he was black”
Lewis Gilmore wrong. I lost a job opportunity from a person less qualified than me. Lower test scores than me. And it was all because the company wanted a minority write off. So reverse racism is a thing. P.S. dude is my friend. So don’t start the im racist thing. But I didn’t get the job because I’m white and my best friend is black and the company stuttered around and said we understand and will give you a recommendation. Heard nothing from them. So yes reverse racism is a thing and it’s as potent as racism. Sir
@@LewisG13 i had to explain this to a black person that didnt believe he could be racist. I asked him an honest question, because I got kinda offended that he just assumed i was black because i like rap. fact of the matter is that social media has programmed people to be divided, pick sides, and fight with each other. the future of america is at a dangerous flashpoint right now because of it.
@@Willdreynolds870621 saying “reverse racism” says only white people can be racist, which is racist. White is Caucasian which is a race as well.
Because of Stevie Knight I realised I am a fu#%ing stan!
At least this clears it up that Charlemagne does not know Eminem's music. If his entire argument is based on not relating to wanting to kill his mother...
Also, comparing will be impossible. Because you'll need someone quick enough to even catch everything Em writes at first glance.
Everytime he gets into a talk about Eminem he goes straight to that same lame argument. I bet he secretly loves Eminem tbh
@@TM-nh3bk Yeah, he's a curious one imo. He clearly has such a deep love for Hip-hop, but then with this hate or racism or whatever he has with Em, it just makes him sound like a dumbass. There are so many ways to serve that same opinion and not sound so utterly naive about one of the most respected artists in the category. He could have said 'He's not my personal favourite and I believe depending on what is being showcased on a versus there are 7 other big names that could rival him.' Or something that is just not making him sound so stupid and ignorant. It just pollutes the actual conversation. But anyway, I digress. Em would slay no matter who it is. 💪🏽
This is a key point that everyone, including Stans, need to understand. You can't compare rappers if you haven't heard most of the songs those rappers have made. Em is one of my favorite rappers and hands down my favorite lyricist. But a lot of Stans just matter of factly say that EM is the best and they have heard every Em song. And when pushed about how many Jay Z or Wayne or other rapper's songs they have heard they will just name their most popular songs. Like they said, "Hey Siri, play popular songs by Lil Wayne", listen to the first few songs and then make up their mind that Em is better. You have to give other rappers the same chance that you gave Em. If you have listened to most of Em's songs then don't compare him to other rappers unless you have ALSO heard most of THEIR songs. And likewise, to people like Charlemagne, don't compare Em to your favorite rappers unless you have listened to as much of Em's songs as you have listened to your favorite rappers. A rapper's most popular songs are rarely their best songs.
@@MiddleAgedBob 100% Facts!! The question of comparison in itself is SO arbitrary as a concept. (My last statement was tongue in cheek btw to prove this point) Well said 🙌🏽
Knowing and listening to Eminem since 2002 and I’m from algeria 🇩🇿 English is the 4th language in my country...and i have a lot of friends (stans) like me from algeria , that explains how huge em is 😁👻
No one is touching Eminem. I mean, absolutely no one.
I absolutely love how Stevie went from someone who thought of em as just a quirky rap artist, to being a fierce defender of his discography! 🤗.....
BTW there's quite a few em tracks that I don't fuck with.... but nobody who has actually listened to his music in full can deny his talent.... unless you're just straight up hating! 🤷♀😑
Facts.
But his discography ain’t fucking with Jay . He just would lose . In a versus ? Jay is smoking Em . Especially if they did it in person like they’ve been doing lately .
@@manuelmorales6191 Jay = Jay Z? Just for clarification.
I don't know. I mean, if you take the songs and verses that already exist, I'll give you that. But if they would get head-to-head and had time to prepare, knowing they'd have to compete?
For one - that would be EPIC!
And I couldn't predict who'd win. Eminem has a lot of songs and verses that aren't really saying much, I'll give that to anyone who's asking. More concentrated on the rhyming than on the content (yea yeah... I know, but it's not completely wrong to say so).
I don't know if, when both parties would know it's a 'battle' and that everything counts: rhyming, content, flow etc... I wouldn't be able to predict who'd win. Because the preparation would be different than it is for just making a song for your own album. That'd be like writing a story for a competition vs writing one for your own pleasure.
So.
Can we make that happen now? Give the contestants x weeks to come up with their verse, get a jury who isn't in either fan-group together, then give them the beat and let them at it.
That'd be amazing!
Frizzle the Cat Yes Jay-Z . I’m talking within the parameters of what a versus is . Do you even know what they are ? 😂😂
@@manuelmorales6191 Apparently not. Tried to find something on that online, but couldn't. But I'm so glad you took the time to politely explain it to me instead of ridiculing my ignorance. Have a fucking amazing life. Cheers, mate.
hes just a hater bro. em helped him out with something and they even hung out then he goes behind his back and talks trash about his songs. so em dissed him on kamikaze and he has been salty about it ever since, no matter ur personal veiw on em u cant deny his skill behind the pen.
Charlamagne is a nobody making his name off of somebodies. Same old bullshit and some people listen to it and take it seriously. Even naming himself after a somebody in the form of King Charlamagne. Mans a walking cliche.
What did em help him out with an when they hang out?
Dande u didn’t hear about the movie “bodied”? Em was the producer and ctg was an actor in that movie
TheLegend27 Facts. I was about to mention the movie "Bodied" as well. Charlamagne is in that movie and Em produced it. See people gotta know! Charlamagne and Joe Budden and Lord Jamar are just fucking haters when Em gives them respect and all they do is stab him from behind. Hate fucking snakes. Crook and 50cent real Gs who are real and loyal. True ride till die homies and they monsters with rap music. Real recognize real.
지나가는행인 yessir!
I was watching eminem live in Korea.....yo, the whole crowd rapped the whole damn song with him word for word. That shit was crazy. Imagine like 10 thousand people in unison rapping lose yourself. That shit was wild. If you guys ain’t seen it, go see it.
You're so right!!
Been lucky enough to see him live twice and the audience is insane, it's amazing to be a part of!
Im gonna watch that. Where were you in the crowd. 🤣
even here in Philippines and japan em is very famous.and the greatest rapper of all time❤
Facts. Same here in the UK millions of people sing along word for word.
When "Till I collapse" comes on it's a wrap fam.
I wish more people thought the way Stevie thinks! 👊 He earned my respect when I seen him for the first time on a reaction and he keeps earning more by thinking in not just other people's shoes but EVERYONES shoes. Thanks bro keep em coming.
“It’s not what you like, it’s the consumer”-Joe Dirt.
He has too many fam lmao, maybe he has that many fans cause he's the best!
That's what I say, there is a reason why he has so many fans. They make it sound like millions of people are crazy because we like his music.
EDIT: I don't know if he is the best because even though I like hip hop I don't have the knowledge to make that statement, but I do love his music and I'm not a Stan. Wich could also mean that his music has trascent the hip hop genre listeners, that's why he has so many fans.
Facts
That is a horrible metric to go off of, though. I love Em, and I think he is one of the best rappers and he is my favorite lyricist. But let's examine your argument. Elvis Presley sold around 1 billion records. FAR more than rockers like Chuck Berry and Little Richard sold. Does that mean Elvis was better than them or does it mean that there was a larger pool of people WILLING to give his music a chance. Look, I'm a 45 year old white dude. I discovered Hip Hop well before Em came on the seen. But even I didn't discover Hip Hop until Run-DMC teamed up with Aerosmith in a song. Likewise, I know a ton of white rap fans who were introduced to rap by listening to Eminem. Why is it that SOOOO many of us white Hip Hop fans were introduced to Hip Hop through white artists? Maybe it is the same reason that so many black Hip Hop fans don't give white rappers a proper chance. I'm not claiming racism. But maybe it is just human nature to be initially drawn toward artists that we have the most in common with. A smaller percentage of the white population listens to rap music than the black population. But because we are the majority, white people are still the largest consumer of rap music. And if people are drawn to artists that look like them and rap about life experiences they share, then...well, I'm just saying that having the most fans doesn't necessarily mean you are the best.
His fans aren’t particularly the Verzuz demographic, and not many of his songs appeal to the verzuz demographic
Exactly.
Such a great reaction to this conversation, very objective and open minded. There are Eminem fans out there who are open minded, I feel I'm one of them. But even just based on songs, if we're being "Objective", Eminem has amazing songs in every single category. Motivational, emotional, uplifting, angry, sad, funny, crazy, genius concepts, collaborations, freestyles. He covers them all and not only that, he makes hits, not just because he has obsessed fans, he makes great music and he knows how to make a catchy hook, but never makes it corny with shit lyrics.
💯
If em has the biggest fan base, without anyone relating to his music he wouldn't have a huge fanbase...period
Good job Stevie.. I was the same with Em never started “listening” to his versus until later on and he has made me realize how much talent he really has in that pen . 🖊
But lyrically we all know that Eminem will wash all of them
It's all about who spits more bars and Eminem does it the best
A Versus isn’t about bars at all. It’s really just the impact of the song, in comparison to the song it’s played against.
Lyrically Em hasn't got a chance in hell with Nas. & I could name a few others. But I'm just gonna end it there.
@@C.P.Brown_ you should listen to Em before talking man 😂
You prolly just know my name is 😂
mr.c.p. brown If you’re talking about content then yea Nas got him on that. But nobody seeing Em as far as verse structure.
@@C.P.Brown_ you really said lyrically? If you had said Em would have lost in any other way you might have been wrong, but at least it wouldn’t have looked absurd… saying Em would lose to him lyrically is the most objectively false thing imaginable… Like so absurd I can barely imagine you aren’t trolling
I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE OF CHARLAMAGNE saying he "can't relate to killing my baby mama"... Em even made a song sort of apologizing to Kim for that old song... Charlamagne talks like that's all Eminem ever talks about in his music... Jesus Crist... he's such a terrible hater... I hate this guy 😑 kinda like Nick Cannon when he says he can't relate to Eminem's songs because he be doing drugs... even though Em is sober for 11 YEARS... they keep mentioning songs from fucking 20 years ago, like My Name Is, as a "bad example" of his music, and it PISSES ME OFFFFFFFF 😬
BUT.... I love you Stevie 🥰 thanks for another great video ❤😊
Charlemagne just saying this so eminem can speak his name on a song🤣
My mom and dad knows "Lose yourself" by Eminem and they Hate rap.🤣🤣
@UDONTWANT THESMOKE I mean, the only rapper my grandmother, who died 10 years ago, knew was Snoop Dogg. That may not be the criteria we want to go by. Em is one of my favorite rappers, and hands down my favorite lyricist, but we shouldn't judge the quality of a rapper based on how many people, who know nothing about rap, like them or have heard of them. For example, a hell of a lot more people know who Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer are than know who Nas or Andre 3000 are.
@@MiddleAgedBob real shit
I listen to Eminem's music almost everyday bruh. 😄😃😃😃😃
🙏🏾🙏🏾👌🏾💪🏾🎧🎤Imma Stan,
@@jamesmrproducefordjr6555 Hell yeah bro.🦾🦾🦾🦾🔥
Have to listen to crazy to keep the crazy from popping out. Shady Theropy
Me too!
@@mariavaughn8303 Hell yeah!🦾
NUMBER 1 artist for sure🔥😃
Say what you say by Eminem is a banger! React to that!!! He dissed Jermaine Dupri and Dre is on it too. Charlamange doesn’t even know any of Eminem’s catalog and is hating because Em don’t like him
Bro you just played 8mile on the phone while talking and it was like an inspiration speech 😂
I avoid listening to anything that's played in the club... unless it's in da club
For real, I never understood the 'club banger' argument, like who the fuck wants to listen to the same style over and over? Em's got enough of them, he just got a lot more than that.
They were club bangers here in Ireland when I was in the club!!!
they want to here that ignorant shit here in america
U ever hear the superman dance version, i used to hear it being played in all the night clubs back in day all round the UK
SHAKE THAT FT NATE DOGG now thats a BANGER!!!
I slept on Em. All these years and I thought oh he can just rap fast....until recently I really listened and discovered what Em can do. His range, his discography, his freaking ARSENAL. I was blown away n continue to be. Any1 that listens to Em will become a Stan becoz He blows u away. Amazes u. GIVES u a high. Theres a high u get from listening to him that leaves u wanting more n more becoz ainy nobody else can give u that high!!! Aint No1 else can do what he do! Hes a musical freakn Mastermind! Wordsmith! RapGod.
Some of us don’t go to the club, nor do we care. Some of us wanna hear the words
dude since u never heard all of em shit , then let me tell u this .. to every mood or situation there is an eminem song , whether happy sad angry high low deep emotional , and u even get a plus one for the sick lyrics...
Tell him! Yass!
Em also has a comedic side that I rock with heavy
Riley Naehu true to dat!
While I basically agree and I love Eminem to pieces, I think it's pretty hard to find romantic songs from him. Hell, the closest thing to a healthy relationship on his songs would be his verse on "Kill for you" with Skylar Grey. (and it's not exactly healthy either. They just don't kill each other but other people, so that's a bit better? Maybe?)
So - he's got a song for *nearly* every mood or situation. But since I'd also probably get distracted by the lyrics if my partner would put him on during romantic time, who cares, right?
@@frizzlethecat2084 well technically ur right since em doesn't have that cheesy type of romance , or lets say the good romance ! but on the other side his kind of romance songs ( love u more , crazy in love , die alone , space bound , etc ..) when u relate to them ,and m sure everyone does at a certain point, u feel like he's doing more than enough at expressing ur anger and love at the same time , its like more emotional and mature ! so lets leave the cheesy love songs to pop music or i donnu what genre is that xD
The way I am, sign for the moment, lose yourself, till I collapse, without me... That's 5 that are already almost impossible to beat. Take 15 more like the ringer, love the way you lie, not afraid, renegade, I will... That's 10 already that may destroy anyone and is diverse. If you want to add pure rap you can add songs like mosh, marsh, Godzilla, rap God, no love. Space bound, bad guy, headlights... Amd there are so many more. I did not even include Stan or shock value shit or disses. Fan base aside em can still wash 99% of the greats. Just look at the list of songs he has.
"I never related to this artist, I never wanted to [states exact thing the artist talks about]" - someone who don't understand the dimensions of relating to material at all
Notice how Charlemagne said hi my name is as ems song, though its his first song. Against amili by Wayne lololol. Instead of putting up lose yourself
Charlemagne just trying to get into Eminem's verse
My thoughts exactly
Well he eventually did. He got what he wanted. STILL A CLOWN whether Charlamagne is mentioned or not in a Em verse 👌🏼
The way Stevie said Charlelame lost all credibility when he said Em would be Redman if he was black, was exactly how I felt when he said he listens to Drake more than all of those others mentioned.
Facts! I’m half chinese and half italian and im from italy, you are talkin FACTS! Bro u’re great, this is why i follow your videos! Un saluto dall’Italia, ciao bello!
Fat Joe was signed by the Stans in quarantine😂
I'm so glad that you brought up the impact of music. Because that's really what it's all about. Every artist impacts a specific demographic. I think want to come to versus it should be about what songs should every demographic. Not everybody is going to like hi my name is but Lose Yourself is universal!
I appreciate your thoughts and perspective hear Stevie. I am a white fan girl who does struggle with understanding the constant debate of where Eminem fits into music and history. I've been riding with Em for 20 years and this argument of where he is placed never goes away or seems to get old.
Same here!!!
All real hip hop heads know Eminem is right where he belong. Literally any rapper who has respect for lyricism respects Eminem and his contribution to music as a whole
Sker McGurt real fucking talk. Ems contribution to hip hop is unmatched. People can’t seem to understand
@@andreacollins3204 always love hearing from a Stan sister!! 🙋🏻♀️
@@skermcgurt8681 You're right but for me I kinda stay in the mainstream music lane so the criticism I hear comes from people who do not appreciate the complexities of Em's lyrical and creative skill so I'm always defending Em but meet similar arguments like we see here. I've had to defend why I love Eminem music and how he's contributed to the music culture often. I work with youth so every few years the same argument comes back around after Em releases a fire track or album, been like that for 20 years now🤦🏻♀️
Em brought 50 to the spotlight, he had club hits. Em had a huge way in hip hop in all facets.
I was in high school when MY NAME IS dropped. Everything changed after that . Hearing it now is not the same as then js
Yo stevie, we all would love to see you on the breakfast club!
It's never gonna happen. You really think Charlamagne would let anybody on the show that could actually refute what he says with articulated logic.
But I agree, I'd love to see that
Bangers that Stevie vibes with heavy in reactions...so Stevie EM got Bangers like
1. *Lose Yourself*
2. *Till I Collapse*
3. *Mosh & White America*
4. *Godzilla*
5. *The Way I Am*
6. *Superman* (he haven’t yet but I think he would say it’s a banger of a track tho)
7. *Lock It Up*
8. *Infinite*
9. *Cold Wind Blows*
10. *Won’t Back Down*
11. *No Love*
12. *Renegade*
13. *Those Kinda Nights*
14. *No Regrets*
15. *Venom*
16. *Forever*
17. *Yah Yah*
18. *Patiently Waiting*
19. *Dead Wrong ft Eminem*
20. *8 Mile*
21. *Forgot About Dre*
22. *Killer*
23. *Favorite Bitch*
Many more but I will stop but again I do believe Em has many bangers in my opinion.
Did he not listen to not afraid or is Eminem's best song not a banger like that lol
Bro SHAKE THAT FT NATE DOGG or SMACK THAT FT AKON
Austin Neveau that is not Eminem’s best song wtf? Not even top 20
@@austinneveau9387 not afraid is not his best song lol
@@austinneveau9387 That's a fucking radio song lmao
I've been on the eminem train for a long time and before its been because of his bangers. After watching your videos you get a whole new appreciation for his music. Lose yourself will go toe 2 toe with any other song out there. Eminem does have a few club songs but nothing super crazy. Eminem is just the most well rounded rapper/ songwriter there is. 🔥
17:35 I love how Stevie has lowkey become a stan without even realising 😂
That track got him an Oscar!
Since when the color of the skin has something to do with the skill?
Since the 1960’s I believe but it’s all fucked
Since you jumped to hip hop. No other genre is racist.
I'm convinced Charlemagne doesn't actually listen to hip hop or he is just suffering with memory relapse,
Every guest feature Eminem has done he's washed rapper's ,
So are we suppose to just ignore that renegade, forever,
Never happened.
Yeah he's suffering from Lord Jamar Eminem hate syndrome
Lose yourself, way I am, my name is, love the way you lie, not afraid, rap god, without me, Stan, mockingbird, til I collapse, and that’s just off top without ft like drop the world, forever. Eminem has songs that can’t be topped.
First time hearing "I don't give a fuck" he got my attention. He blew and I liked his ability but hated the clown stuff he did. I wasn't really messing with em much after that, but going back and reviewing his stuff, it's fair to say I'm a Stan, but that's grounded in respect for him as an artist, and a rapper. I go back and forth about where he ranks as greatest of all time, but this man's launched careers, focused on mental health issues, inequality, classism, addiction, abuse, etc. If he was unskilled, that alone would be enough to make him a hero to most, add his talent and well you can't ignore him, that fan base ain't an accident.
Stevie please react to Eminem more 🙏🙏🙏
*Recommendations:*
Criminal
Not Afraid
Sing For The Moment
Kamikaze
Correct, Imma Stan...... Thank You 😢😢😢😢💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👌🏾
I would like him to react to those. But be patient, he reacts to em a lot
I didn't like the song kamikaze and I'm a huge stan...so idk how he'd feel about it
I know I heard Moroccan, I'm from Morocco and I love you man, I've been supporting you since day one. AND NOBODY CAN BEAT EMINEM.
When he says he never wanted to kill his mother and all welll that says he never heard eminem really 😂😂
Bruuuh!
Lose Yourself
'Till I Collapse
Bad meets Evil
Sing for the moment
Renegade
The list goes on and just like Captain America said "I could do this all day."
I think the simplest way to put it: Eminem is a god lyrically, literally a rap god. When Eminem fans hear a rap song, they will listen to the lyrics and the craft and judge it by that. But rappers like Drake, JayZ, Wayne, Kendric etc. are way better vocally and have better beats, and that's what their fans hear first. Eminem is not an artist that makes club bangers. I think people who hate on Em don't really understand the craftmanship that goes behind his lyrics and don't have the ear for that, only hear his vocals and hence hate him because of that.
Facts he doesn't acknowledge the work
Bluntly blaming stans are blind is crazy
People in the East only get attracted to his pen and the emotions.
I disagree, i prefer Eminem because of his flows, rhyme schemes, lyrics, cadance and everything! The only think any of those other rappers got on em is the beats
@@Elivili when I said craftmanship I basically meant all those things, I agree with you.
@James Anderson I personally prefer Eminem. I was trying to give a neutral view, and I'm pretty sure if you ask a random person on the street to compare Em's SINGING ability to Drakes, Drake would be the clear winner.
@James Anderson that's what I, said. Do you have dyslexia?
Acknowlege his production as well. He is a rapper, lyricist, and a producer.
Club - infinite, multiple features with artists like akon
Gym - a literal plethora with tracks like Till I collapse
Motivational extra - lose yourself and others
Wanna feel like you're tripping - Rap God and Godzilla
Wanna learn literature - Marsh, book of rhymes, the way I am, and almost all of his songs.
Wanna laugh? - Superman? ( I find it funny ), without me, and others
Wanna troll someone? - fack and ass like that got your back
Diss tracks- do I need to tell you?
Touching songs- mocking bird comes to mind
Psychotic? - Kim, Bonnie and Clyde, Criminal....like bruh
And tracks like kings never die, leaving heaven, caterpillar, white America and many many many more.
He's got a track for every situation. He's a versatile rapper with bangers after bangers to back it up.
PLEASE DO NOT AFRAID- recovery- Eminem
Not afraid!?!?! Never heard of that song b4, needa check that J out!
Eminem is always my goat..
Chard remains of charlemagne
Stevie I love that your clearly not racist and each video your almost never biased and when you were you said it outright which shows major transparency ..respect to you Stevie for an always objective perspective
Saying that Em doesn't have songs for the club has to be the most backwards point in a discussion like this.
I think you guys in the states get so caught up in thinking the U.S is the be all and end all.
Let’s do it this way...you tell me what songs will beat these.
1 - lose yourself (washed)
2 - till I collapse (washed)
3 - Stan (washed)
4 - renegade (washed)
5 - not afraid - over a billion streams (washed)
6 - love the way you lie - nearly 2 billion streams (washed)
7 - the way I am (washed)
8 - the real slim shady (washed)
9 - hi, my name is (washed)
10 - Godzilla
11 - the real slim shady (washed)
12 - lock it up
13 - darkness
14 - forever (verse alone, washed)
15 - sing for the moment (washed)
16 - white America
17 - forgot about Dre (washed)
18 - guilty conscience (washed)
19 - patiently waiting (washed)
20 - fight music with d12 (washed)
And that’s just off top.
No love, drop the world...could drop another 20
💁🏻♂️
Medicine man verse...
You forgot soldier and deja vu.
U put the real slim shady twice. Replace one with “Bitch Please” or “Superman”
I disagree with Stevie, I think Em genuinely makes the best rap music, Kayne hasn’t made many classics in the past few years besides Kids See Ghosts. Stan is more iconic than any of his classics too. Music is subjective sure but Em has at least like 6-7 classic albums.
Also, you were thinking of Lose Yourself, one of the best songs across all genres. 26:18 🔥🔥🔥
Bro he does not have not 6 classics bro
@@johnmarston3395 shut up hater
@@TSAWuniveral nah he's not a hater... I'm pretty sure Em has like 4, 5 classic album tops and I'm a big em fan
@@johnmarston3395 he just said its subjective
Adan Carranza SSLP, MMLP, Eminem Show, MMLP2, Recovery... we have to wait a bit for Kamikaze, MTBMB but his newest album is fire:
Man have you ever been to an Eminem concert? This guy filled the biggest stadiums in Australia multiple nights in multiple cities at the age of 46 . He had the full stadium rapping along to all his songs.... amazing night I had ,cannot compare to any other concert.
Stevie I know you don't rock with ems music but surely you can't say that people worldwide have whack ears , cos I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be listening to his stuff on loop if we thought his beats are whack etc. And I listen to all types of music. I even listened to a whole bunch of classical , opera, to rock to everything else. I love music period and I listen to ems stuff all the time. You always keep mentioning u don't rock with his music 'like that' ... Little jabs man. like your trying to save face with the black community by sayin u don't listen to him ,just only on reactions.
Waiting for the day you just say you really like his music period and that he is one of the greatest 'artists' period. Not just that "he is one of the greatest ’rappers' ...but.... "
We all have different tastes in music ,however you can't deny the millions of people worldwide who love ems music compared to the amount of ppl with the same views as yourself. Shame I hear u saying that line in so many videos.
"I never wanted to kill my mother. I never wanted to kill my baby mom"
I can't stand when people use the whole "Em raps about killing his wife and raping his mom" thing as a go-to sentiment when it comes to Em's music, acting as if that's majority of his discography.
Like..... theres soooooo many Em songs where he's rapping about meaningful shit; Til I Collapse, Not Afraid, Phenomenal, Lose Yourself, Sing For The Moment, etc.
Besides, Em pretty much apologised to his mom (Headlights) as well as Kim (Bad Husband) which quite alright doesn't erase the things he said before, but is still a good and mature thing he did imo.
I love Bad Husband because he's honest about being a bad husband. I hope he talked to Kim face to face before that song already (I think he did? Idk, not a true stan here, I don't wanna know personal shit if possible)
So most of his relationship-with-females-songs end terribly, but that doesn't automatically mean Eminem wanted it to be this way, or even that he likes it or that he actually wants others to be in that same boat.
When I first listened to "Love the way you lie" I was intoxicated. It was just so powerful and described the vicious cycle of toxic love in a way that made it relatable even when I've never been in anything even close to it!
If CTG really listened to those kinds of songs and still can't related (!) that just means he's not a very empathetic person. Empathy means putting oneself in someone else's place and seeing their side of things, even when it's not the one you would sympathize with.
So of course as a woman, I'd sympathize more with the woman in the songs but since it's from HIS perspective, I can't help getting his side, too. They also function as a good warning... "If your partner is displaying some of these traits? See that you get out of it before he ties you to the bed and sets the house on fire!" 😉
Lmaoo I don’t even foo with em like that but he a monster, charlemagne one of the biggest haters of the century
Music is about the expression of emotion, it's an art. And not everyone is going to connect with the same piece of art
"My Name Is" is the best because he is introducing himself to the world. His discography is showing his growth and maturity.
Stevie talk your shit !!!! This is becoming one of my favourite review channels , and it’s so refreshing that racism is never tolerated. Lose yourself and Stan are 2 of the biggest and best rap songs ever!!!!
I am white and I don't like much "hi my name is" but who can beat IF I HAD? HUH?!?!?
If I had is probably his worst song why would u pick that one?
I love my name is and i'm not even white
@NoNoNoNii groundhog day
yo if I had is amazing man.. it depends on the situation, that's what people don't understand
If I had is an amazing song you bugging
In Turkey nobody cares about rap music before Eminem. They didnt know legends like tupac or BIG. EM show us the rap music
To gain that kind of fanbase you have to be something extraodinary, that means something.. If he would start making shity music,album after album the fanbase would become smaller...People become Stan's becouse he gives them the reason to..
17:38 you turned into a full blown Stan LOL. I love it!
Let's get Stevie Knight an interview with Fat Joe lmao
Eminem has one of thee best inspirational/motivational songs ever.
Oh yes he do... SHAKE THAT is a classic song that bangs in the club
I cant wait for ems next album. You know hes going to go all out to prove these haters wrong. Theres a movement against him that he needs to put a holt to 👌
Anyone else see the signs of Stevie turning into a Stan? Redman gets brought up and Stevie gets triggered.
🤣
😂 doesn't mean he ain't right though
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
@@humantranscendence def.
They always say kill his mum when was the last time he even said that
I'm annoyed at the way these people who say "he's a better rapper but worse music" better music isn't just calculated by how many people dance to it. The reason why eminem fan base is so loyal and large, is because of the amount of songs he makes that literally save lives. He makes songs that make you feel strength even when you hate yourself and have suicidal thoughts. On that note, his music is 'better' because of how much value the music has to all those fans. As opposed to rappers who have 'bangers' which people dance to for 5 seconds then move on to the next 600 songs which give them the same short term dose of excitement. That means a lot less than music that literally has saved peoples lives.
Mumble rappers have their songs played in clubs, that doesn’t mean they are good, it’s just the beat, dancing beats. EM has the biggest loyal fan base in the world without being played on the radio everyday and without being played in clubs, that says a lot, that shows the amount of impact he has with his music/ rap on people, He doesn’t need clubs or radios to play his music. Rhyming scheme, lyrics, double/ quadruple meaning, how he rides any beat, that’s what rapping is, that’s a true artist. He is THE G.O.A.T,
“Everything he puts out is gold” um have we been wrong Stevie? One of the biggest reasons he has stabs is because it’s real bro it’s not just biased, we recognize the greatness before us