Rose Namajunas vs Carla Esparza...Was that a FIGHT?
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2022
- Chael Sonnen talks Rose Namajunas vs Carla Esparza on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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Rose handed Carla the belt and no damage as a wedding gift
I thought this too, like, if your job as a fighter is to get another fight, and your division has been the same 6 women fighting eachother over and over endlessly, well then she doesn't even have to fight to get another fight.
She's a wonderful human being.
Can we all agree that Pat Barry is the most hated man on the planet today after that goofball statement , you like boo’s ? Good get use to it bud
Sad but true
I was thinking the same thing
Bisping was 100% right, they shoulda called this fight a no contest. That was embarassing. Neither fighter deserved to walk away the winner after that.
AGREED
I hope Daddy Dana took both teams into the back room and lit them up for that performance! Imagine how mad he must have been!
Nope then you give the champ incentive to stall do nothing and keep the title.
@@danelynch7171 Dana or someone did light them up. The post fight press conference had Rose talking about how she should have won, had no apologies. Then an hour later she issued an apology. Dana ripped her a new one.
At least esparza tried to apply pressure
The way Rose celebrated at the end of the 5th round like she beat Khabib was funny. Also, her post-fight interview was the complete opposite of reality (I controlled the cage, I pressed forward, all the booing was targeted at Carla and not me).
Damn straight.
That post fight press conference turned me from being her fan. She talked like she won and did a lot. Then to say that the boos were for Carla and not her, that just made me feel like an idiot that got scammed for wasting my time, energy and money being her fan.
You're not wrong, @@RonniePTexan.
facts
@@RonniePTexan to be fair to Rose the whole fight her corner was telling her she the game plan is working, your clearly winning the fight, etc. So she may have thought she had done more than she did.. its completely different being in the ring than it is watching it. Not like she is the only fighter that has exaggerated their performance.
I’m a big Rose fan but that was the worst “fight” I’ve ever seen in my life. How do you just hand the belt away like that?
@Neon Thunderbird DEFINITELY did not lose me as a fan. Was that fight absolutely pathetic on all levels? Totally. Was Rose and her team completely at fault for that? Totally. But Rose has left pieces of herself in the Octagon so many times. She has had some BATTLES. I was a big fan of her for a reason. I hope she can bounce back and learn from this. She’s bounced back before.
No. Zero desire to ever see that again. I recently got my mother into MMA and her first woman fight was Valentina. She absolutely loved it and couldn't wait for more. By the end of round 2 of this one, she decided to go do laundry and asked me to tell her when the main event was coming. I, too, found laundry to be more entertaining.
Show momma some throwback fights lol that was a tough one to have someone watch
yea my mom loves rose and she fell asleep!
😂😂😂
I'm sad to hear that, i hope she sticks with being a fan.
@@CK-id9tr Yeah show Ken Shamrock vs Dan Severn
Rose just couldn’t let Carla get close…
Lmao,, well played good sir, well played
Lmao
It was so funny watching her throw jabs while Carla was 12 feet away. Shadow boxing contest
Nice 😎
“Vanderlei stop …”
🤣🤣
Nice
Trevor‘s fighters are usually dominant, so he’s not used to firing them up when they’re behind. And Pat was just buttering up his significant other. Seems obvious that Rose had not shaken those demons from losing to Carla before and her coaches did nothing to help her overcome them.
someblackguy > bat parry
It was more pat berry Trevor witman was actually telling her she needs to be more aggressive and let loose more. Pat very was the one saying it'd going good
Trevor was trying to get her to do more but she didn’t listen. Sure he could’ve been more angry about it but if you listen to what he says he was saying pick up the pace you’re better than her everywhere don’t be afraid etc
The dolly still haunts rose
Pat "The Groomer/Pedo" Barry is as worthless as Mike Perry's girlfriend cornering him.
Rose looked terrified of the possibility of giving Carla any sort of an angle for a level change the entire match. Didn’t even want to engage with offense because of it possibly opening herself up for a takedown. I think Rose understands that she wasn’t going to beat Carla if it turned into a wrestling match, so her gameplan was clearly to have it be a dud of a fight and win the decision by uglying up the fight with not much engagement and simply not ever allowing Carla to get any takedowns. You could also tell that was her gameplan because of the way Whitman and Barry were telling her that the boos from the crowd because of how boring the match was was her validation that their game plan was “working”. Just terrible coaching. The obvious better plan would have been to work with Rose a lot with her takedown defense and wrestling. You don’t deserve to be a champion if you are that terrified of an excellent wrestler. It speaks to your lack of skills, which aren’t championship level if you can’t handle wrestlers.
And a wrestler without a big right hand at that.
To bad Suarez has health problems she destroyed Esparaza. I was sure she was next up to where the strap.
I never saw anyone handle Esparaza in the wrestling like Tatiana did, made her look like an amateur just smashed her.
Carla couldn't hold her down for a single second. There was absolutely no reason to be so respectful of her wrestling.
This was said by master Jared, a 14 year old with no fighting experience
I’m guessing The judges gave it to Carla because she was the aggressor the entire fight while Rose was happy to just be on her bicycle.
Yeah, so little happened they went to octagon control to decide the winner
Winner by default, at least she tried a few level changes and got a few takedowns. Didn't really do much with it, but Rose didn't really do anything at all.
Seems like she was more concerned with looking good than actually doing good. She looked terrified to even get close to Carla. Maybe she knows something we don’t.
if rose was blk , they will call that hit and not get hit "boxing "
@@asianconnection7701 what are you talking about no one was doing any hitting it was only not getting hit that’s the problem
Worst fight ive seen in my entire life. 4 strikes hit im the first round between both fighters. That was a shadow spar. What’s even worse is both corners were hyping the other fighter up saying they were doing a great job
Carla Cookie Monster is the New Winner twice,meaning the second upset since Julianna pena Win (By Submission RNC) against Amanda Nuñes at #UFC269 as they got better. Both women fighters was knew about The Upset story event ever made....
The UFC started highlights for the fight in the 3rd round 😂
😁
I feel asleep during it and woke up right before the main event
@@deleqtronica8733 There were highlights ? The only thing in that fight that was impressive was Rose flipping Carla when she got taken down.
Rose admitted that she didn’t want to get hit in the face. She tried to do as little as possible while still keeping the belt. Bad strategy. I think she jumped the shark.
When a professional fighter, a champion who gets PPV points and makes millions is trying to avoid getting punched, it's a sign that that fighter needs to go.
What a wacky night, never expected Tony to get knocked out, Rose gifting her position and Canelo, WOW. Didn't expect Charles to finish so quickly (although I thought he was winning anyways). Crazy night, not taking away anything from any fighters just left me surprised. Also Charles, Geathje, Chandler, Pourier literally some of the best hype ever in the UFC
We got like 8 minutes of (great) action between the title fight and tony-chandler and 25 minutes of absolutely nothing not worth it lol
@@kingt0295 i bearly even paid attention during the rose match, doesn't seem like i missed out on much lol
shit woulda been so funny if one of em got a last second KO right at the horn
I predict this will inspire MMA On Point to make a "top 10 worst title fights" video in the next few days.
Was just thinking that
They keep recycling the same video
@@homersimpson4646 all ranking channels do. You run out of list when you do one every damn day. Look at Alltime10s, completely dead channel
Pat Barry telling Rose she was dominating for 1:50 and then letting her actual coach talk for 10 seconds was certainly a choice
Ahaha yup! Pat barry is a clown
@@joaovaz1789 big clown. Unfortunately he was there to influence her when she was young and reeling from an abusive relationship so now he’s locked in to her life by default.
Yeah, I looked at my cousin and said "Are you kidding me?" Barry needs to stay in the locker room.
I found that so weird too! Who does he think he is to talk when Trevor is standing right there?
@@MyEnemy He needs to stay in the bedroom. He was a subpar fighter and an even worse coach. The only reason Rose is at the level she’s at is because of Trevor Wittman and Greg Nelson. Pat is a mascot at this point
Rose lost a fan after after the post fight press conference when she said she thought she did enough to win. She even said I don't need to damage my face to win😂😂 Apparently you do😂
It is a lovely face to be fair
One more and many fans I believe, speaking shit about Carla and she did´nt do anything in the cage, only running.
Not a fan to begin with if someone can’t have a bad night and still have you as a supporter
@@3dahardwhay427 I agree totally. They were not true fans. Really what they were was weili closet fans from the communism mess days with weili.
My takeaway from watching Rose and her corner is that she has a very fragile mentality, and they didn't want to tell her what needed to be said
Rose tried to coast and avoided fighting 25 mins. I'm disappointed anyone won this fight but happy she lost honestly. Learn a lesson, pat needs to not be I'm her corner any more.
He has groomed and brainwashed her. Sean Stricklands tweets are 100% right.
Coach Trevor is the Man! If she listened to him then she would have won!
Yup. This fight was an absolute joke. You come down to the octagon screaming 'I'm the best' Then proceed to throw 4 punches at the invisible ghost in front of Carla. Good. I'm glad the judges scored against her.
It's actually kinda funny because I was just talking to some friends the other day about how you never hear a good coach between rounds saying "you're doing great! Just keep doing what you're doing!" It's always something more like "you're down a round, you gotta win this one!!!" And then her husbandcoach proves me right, days later.
@Blue Pill Cuck Agreed
Not sure how Rose thought she could win a fight without fighting and running away. She got what she put in. Congratulations Carla on the win and the wedding
All the while taunting and waving Carla on several times throughout the fight. Wtf was that? She's not engaging AT ALL and waving her opponent in as though Carla is the one not engaging. Not trying to shirk off all responsibility from Carla, she was almost as willing to do nothing, at least she tried a little harder than Rose, but that's not saying much. Very disappointed in both fighters.
@@markzuckergecko621 fr, she was exposing her chin and being comfortable only when she was out of reach lol. Carla pressuring forward and rose running away, then she got some takedowns, and rose even more backing off😂 and at the end she was surprised she lost.
@@beaualIoevv "come on, let's fight, COME ON!!! AHHHHH, just kidding, please don't hit me! Yea come on, YOU'RE SCARED!!"🤣🤣🤣
She was taking a play out of Izzy’s playbook.
@@beaualIoevv She was jumping around like she won also. She is so brainwashed. Sean Strickland is right.
Rose coach after 1st round " yes this is exactly what we want " Coach played a big part in her loss 100%
I'm a Rose fan but glad they gave the W to Esparza. I had a feeling the "I'm the best" mantra was going to inexplicably fail. At least Esparza showed up.
That was not the best.
Should've been a no contest
Honestly I blame Rose’s team. They all kept leading her on like she was winning and doing exactly what she needed to do. They kept reassuring her that the game plan was working.
Carla’s corner was basically doing the same damn thing.
I personally think the fight should have been a draw with how poor of a performance both ladies put on.
I think it was mostly Pat Barry, saying if the crowd is booing she's doing everything right, trevor wanted her to pick up the pace and she never did
A draw? More like no contest. Literally.
@@justincruickshank5152 💯 Pat Barry, terrible.
When I heard rose's team tell her to make the crowd boo her. i knew she was in trouble.
Rose needs to fire Pat Barry
How about those corners? Both corners, but especially Rose's hyping her up even though she was botching her title defense. Id say Rose managed to lose basically every single round by simply letting Carla be the aggressor. If nothing is happening, then judges have to score on who is controlling the cage and pushing forward, which was Carla every round.
Yea, I believe that. They must gave it to Carla for more attempts like with the takedown, I heard got a takedown and the other ones failed but still put a bit more effort in trying, so that's my guess also. Carla being the aggressor, making Rose walk back in all rounds.
100%
a bunch of takedowns won esparza the belt
Exactly the both corners were delusional with the advice they were giving
A bunch of take downs ? I think you mean take down attempts
I loved Din Thomas comment on how we all lost the first round. Ultimately, we all lost that fight too. No one should have won for that performance. I'm expecting an immediate rematch, but who knows, it's all very disappointing.
That fight should be declared a no-contest.
Don't pay them any money, and make them do it again. You don't get paid to circle around for 25 minutes. It's supposed to be a fight. Make them fight or not get paid.
Wasting people's time & energy. Never let them fight ever again
The only thing I can think of as to why Rose lost (other than severe lack of activity) was the fact Carla had basically all the octagon control. She stayed in the middle while Rose just circled the outside and feinted from 10 feet away (which they were both doing that from ridiculous distances) so I think the judges saw it as Carla being the aggressor. Idk though, I'm not a judge but I also didn't give a shit who won that shadow boxing match
I agree old friend.
Ye
So she won stop hateing
Agree. That and she went for takedowns. You have to factor the aggression and attempts when there's no damage and nothing else happens..
@@jenderarevalo245 where was there hate in anything they said? Was just an evaluation of what he saw, so throw that negative bullshit somewhere else.
I'm a huge fan of Rose but after that, I was happy Carla won and shame on Rose's corner for encouraging her to continue what she's doing.
Was all on Pat "the groomer" Berry.
I understand what you’re saying but you can’t be a huge fan and be happy she lost.
@@pkouls23 Yes you can...🙃
@@pkouls23 I've been a fan of Rose since her Invicta pre-Ultimate Fighter days ; but she sure didn't win that fight.
Chael is right this video had more action with him moving his hands to talk to us than that fight had in 5 rounds 🤣🤣🤣
"Who lost? The fans" The best statement and summary of the dance.
Going from Chandler and Ferguson to that was painful
Rose gave Carla's wrestling waaaay to much respect. Rose's corner was awful!!
Right.. to be champ u have to be confident in your own skills. Not worry about what the opponent is going to do
worst advice ever to make the crowd boo you. they loved rose in the beginning. pat has lost his mind.
@@pluto5159 she would of beat Carla's ass if she just fought like herself. Imo
@@pluto5159 Carla has rose terrified
@@pluto5159 she'll never beat Queen Carla, get over it
Only good thing that came out of the rose Esparza fight was that it went on long enough for me to switch to Bivol schooling Canelo before the main event
Rose at the presser saying she's in "disbelief" and she "won that fight" hahahaha
I hate to say it, but I think it's time to question Rose's motivation and drive to win. I'm usually the guy that argues against people making claims like that, worn out cliches like "they just didn't want it" or "they lost their edge", I think 90% of UFC fighters are motivated and want to win, 90% of the time. But I don't think there's any denying at this point that there's a stark contrast between Rose when she's the underdog, and has something to prove, and when she's at the top of the mountain defending. She's not trying to win as much as she's just trying not to lose.
It was 1 fight she didn’t want to mess up her face for her wedding rose works hard and is definitely still motivated I see her getting the belt back
@@cryingthug8631 it wasn't the first time though, she was pretty tentative in her 2nd fight with Weili too, a lot of people, myself included, thought she lost, narrowly. And I guess you can call the slam KO a one-off, but compared to her fights when she was the underdog, there is a noticeable difference. And you using her wedding as an excuse actually solidifies my argument more than yours.
I think it's safe to say that your motivation needs improving if you have to keep saying "I am the best" for a hundred times like a complete maniac in order to prepare for your immediate fight.
@@cryingthug8631 Carla is the one getting married
@@denisskenderovic3707 Chill it's badass when she acc fights don't forget all the great things she did just cuz we dont like her now😭😭
Rose was in no danger of being outstruck or held down and she was still running from someone who she is better than. She'd have lost to a bob dummy on a roomba.
lmao
YHAHAHAHHAA
Lmfaoooo
IF u taped a picture of Carlas face to the BOB
That was rough. What was even worse is that Rose defended it as tactical when really she avoided engagement. It was insane. She was in almost no danger from Carla yet avoided her like she was going to get mauled on the ground. Every time she got taken down she got up immediately and then even showed she could take Carla down. I have no idea why she wouldn't engage like she did with Zhang.
I suspect they gave it to Carla because of Octagon control if nothing else. She was more often the aggressor.
Who really lost was the division and anybody and everybody should be calling both of them out for terrible performances and a promise to the fans for an exciting fight.
It's already bad enough that this fight was not anticipated, despite both women giving good performances in the past and it had to be a co-main and attached to highly anticipated fights, but then to lay one of the worst duds in the history of the sport basically proved all of the fans right for not caring about this fight.
May I ask, do you have older siblings? Yes its important to my view of what happened.
Alot said that rose was mentally not over their first fight even though she improved alot since then. So its like being the younger sibiling and always being bullied by your older sibilings. Getting way stronger and better at fighting but mentally always remember how you was weaker and not able to fight back. It will effect you physically even though you have alot of proof that you arent that weak person anymore.
I box now and much much stronger now that Im certain if I went up against by older sibilings, I would out perform them/ Out box them easily. But I have
Lingering insecurities and doubts because at a point in time, I wasnt able to fight back and it still sticks with me despite my vast improvement
@@hidan407 you could be right, it's hard to imagine professional fighters not being able to overcome that, but maybe. Based on Rose's last 10 seconds of activity and her post fight conference on how she thought she was tactical and Pat Berry saying the boos mean the "strategy" is working, I'm not as convinced.
I get the impression her game plan was to show that Carla couldn't touch her, get gifted 2 rounds because the fight was so hard to score, and then steal the 5th at the end and cruise to a championship.
It's a crazy plan to think giving the judges a nothing fight to score isn't anything more than a gamble. At least do what Francis did and keep control.
@@michael95621 The human mind is weird. Yeah I can't imagine Pro fighters not overcoming that either, but you never know.
If that truly was their plan, that was just a weird thing to do. If they fight 1 more time, Rose better put in the work and not whatever that was 😅 others say her wedding was clogging her thoughts. I give them a few weeks to fully explain what happened
@@hidan407 I was watching it with friends when we found out Carla was getting marred in one week we all kind of looked at each other like she was crazy. I guess she's lucky Rose only punched her twice or maybe she was going to pay her photographer and makeup person a lot of extra money.
I thought it would have been super weird and maybe a little funny if she got beat up and some people at the wedding didn't know what she did for a living and were super confused why she looked so beat up.
@@michael95621 I wouldnt be surprised if friends and family didnt know what she did for a living.
Would have been a very akward wedding if she was bruised alot 😅😅😅👮♂️
This is what happens when you try to defend a belt by mitigating damage instead of fighting. Rose looked like she was doing jazzercise with Richard Simmons. It looked like a bad DVD workout routine.
Pat needs to be in the stands , Let Trevor do his work. He didn’t want to demand pressure and make pat mad but he was somewhat tryna say your losing you need pressure even tho pat said she doing great lmao
Pat needs to be behind bars for being a p*dophi**.
Theres gunna have to be a serious discussion. You cant perform properly when you have 1 coach telling you to keep it up and the other feels he cant say what he needs to because the fighter sleeps with the other coach. Pat can be in the corner, just needs to realize he is NOT head coach material and thats trevors job.
Exactly. Pat was gaslighting her between every round. It's past time for Rose and Pat to separate their professional and personal relationships. (Or Trevor needs to be more assertive, but that's really just treating the symptom instead of addressing the sickness.)
Pat needs to be in prison
I think these women letting their boyfriends/husband/etc corner them is a lot of their issue. I’ve been saying that’s Tates problem. You need someone in your corner that won’t be sharing a bed with you later that night. When’s the last time you saw a S/O in Valentinas corner… 🤷🏻♀️
I enjoyed Ngannou vs lewis more. At least there was the possibility of a one punch ko. This had absolutely nothing even among the wildest of optimistic imaginations. I'm concerned for Rose's mental health the way she was talking like she was proud of her performance and was convinced she won. You need to fight to win a fight. I'm not sure a fight even occurred here.
Yeah when the final horn sounded and she shouted YES! I was like wtf is going on in her head
Also I've been concerned about her mental health ever since she said she couldn't leave the house for months after the mcgregor bus incident
@@r6scrubs126 Thugs stay indoors for at least a year when people throw things in their general direction…clearly you don’t know how it goes in the mean streets
@@markdesmond3659 good thing for food delivery otherwise there would be dead dessicated thugs withered on floors everywhere in the hood.
agreed, in this fight you could simply look away or do something else and still be sure that you didn't miss anything. worst ufc fight ever, cos it wasn't even a fight
I dig Chael, super cool dude! That said he knows better than that. 100% there is a feeling out process, especially if you're aim is to be the best, or just plain old SMART! I boxed amateur for a few years and never once heard the bell ring, marched across the ring and met my opponent in the center and started to bang. Now I did have opponents that tried that. But my trainer was different for the amateur level. I wanted to feel and engage my opponents speed, his reflexes, also why feint's are so important. Tested his foot work and head/body movements. You want to see what his eyes tell you, their body language. Feeling out process is SUPER important, so Chael is dead wrong
What’s crazy is Rose is gonna have to wait for Carla to lose the belt to get a shot at the title again. It would be hilarious if Jonna beat Zheng then beat Carla and became champ again.
This was the worst title fight in UFC history, horrible. If I HAD to pick a winner then I agree with the decision the judges made, but nobody should leave with a belt after a fight like that. Carla won the 4th because she got ONE takedown, thats how slow it was going.
Same agree
She tried quite a few but Rose just kept running away.
@@GT-mn3bx ya, watching someone do nothing but shoot non stop is some fun shit lol
Should be declared a no-contest and don't pay them any money. Put them on the next card that's available and tell them if they want to get paid, they need to actually fight.
I think both woman were still emotional over seeing Tony looking dead. It's like driving and seeing a bad car accident and then you drive very carefully after seeing that. Woman are more emotional than men. I think the Tony fight affected them making them think "omg anything can really happen"
That fight made Francis vs Lewis look entertaining.
Made kimbos last fight look entertaining
That fight made Adesanya vs Romero look fascinating
There is such a thing as a feeling out process....it's the period of a fight when a fighter is gauging distance.....this fight never got out of that process!
Chael this video was 10x better then the fight , please keep doing this . Your channels are a big source of my mma knowledge
Rose gave it away and Carla has nothing to be proud of. This fight set women's mma back to pre Rousey days.
I wouldn’t go that far, it was just hot garbage
Don’t think it’s fair to say that. It was one awful fight, not like there hasn’t been plenty of stinkers in the men’s divisions.
I think you highly overestimate how much this fight is gonna have any impact lol the two woman are literally no names lol
Now if valentina Shevchenko or amanda nunez had such a boring fight that would be a different story.
@@TomCL-vb6xc When was the last good WMMA fight honestly? Weili and Joanna over two years ago is all I could think of. One sided beatings don’t count.
@@zeekthegeek4538 thug rose is a no name. spoken like a true casual
I’ve landed more punches on the snooze button on my alarm clock for a weekend shift than the combined number of punches landed in this “fight”
Chael dropping that cold line at the end about being more entertaining than the fight was the funniest sad fact that I've heard in a while 😄🥲
Open scoring needs to be implemented. I understand that it would affect Vegas but it would make the sport more exciting. If you know you are down on the cards you will be more aggressive and force the fight.
I think she took the Izzy technique but took it too far thinking gotta beat the champ to be the champ. If she threw 10-20 more strikes she could have won.
Izzy vs Silva was at least a square dance slap box show.
Saying exactly what the commentators said like ya thought of it 🤣
She should have used the GSP vs Josh Koscheck strategy of just jabbing her opponent to death. It would be boring but she would have out pointed her.
@@GT-mn3bx Pretty sure he was referring to the Izzy Romero fight.
@@BonafideShaunDent She was doing that in the first Andrade fight too, before the high crotch takedown. She could’ve done that again here.
One of the worst fights in UFC history
Literally the worst
THEE
THEE
Worst than Derrick Lewis vs Francis?
@@antisocialantihero3464 at least there was some tension in that!
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I watch boxing I'm a boxer or used to be, my first thought was this sometimes happens in boxing where u get 2 high level fighters trying to create openings and feints and nobody seems to give anything up it starts to look a lot like what happend in this fight.
Forget Rose, Carla is the champion - NO TRILOGY, ROSE LOST TWICE - Carla is Rose's boogeyman
Imagine if Joanna beats Carla again and keeps this weird full circle thing going even longer
Almost ruined a crazy end to a card, if they just had even something resembling a fight that card would go down as a classic
killed the whole vibe where i was at
So true, i fucking had to throw the fight on my 2nd monitor and game..... i was falling asleep!!!
If this fight came before chandler the last two would have made the event crazy but this did kill the vibes
Honestly I thought the card as a whole was pretty disappointing. Obviously the main event was awesome, the Chandler KO was mind blowing. Khaos and Randy Brown was a banger too. But as a whole, it really was not nearly as good as it should have been on paper.
@@markzuckergecko621 I agree.
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The advice and coaching coming out of both corners had me scratching my head also.
For me that was hands down the worst mma/ufc fight in modern times....they shouldn't fight each Other again and yes this segment is definitely more interesting than the fight itself
I'd love to know everything Rose's corner were telling her. Regardless, I have zero sympathy for her losing her title in that fashion. I also find it hard to congratulate someone winning a title after barely landing a strike or a take down.
Just… thank you so much for spelling “losing” correctly
@@ZBR_ProXP Ha ha, I was never a good looser.
@@adventureswiththecrazyvet Everything?
Well, I think that's unfair to Carla. It seems to me that Rose was the more hesitant fighter either with lateral or retreating movements. It take two people to fight, and Rose seemed to be the less aggressive person out of fear of takedowns. Since Rose was never controlled with the two or three takedowns that occurred, perhaps Rose's fear was unfounded.
@@jackbuaer3828 Unfair? What is unfair about it?
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this fight set back wmma 50 years
This fight was confusing to say the least. A five round fight that never got going was hard to imagine prior to last night.
I thought Ngannou v Lewis was bad until last night's shit show
No Chael, it wasn’t a fight.
Best comment
I invited several people over to watch the fights yesterday who had never seen UFC before. I had to keep reassuring them that this isn't common, but who knows if they'll ever wanna watch another one.
That’s a really good point about the feeling out process tbh
Eventually I had to just stop expecting it to get good, and laugh at Rose throwing jabs 9 feet away from her opponent
I almost spit my drink out laughing when she was twirling one arm around and feinting with the other from 10 feet away.
I was at the fights light night. Bro honestly the crowd was more fun doing the wave the watching the fight. I actually wish I was joking.
I believe ya
Can't wait for rowdy crowds getting up in arms about these sleeper fights. The Apex and no fans have made conservative and safe fighting (boring fights) much more prevalent
I saw people doing the wave in the background lol
I only had a handful of amateur mma fights and a few boxing matches, but I always took the first 30s to 1 min of a fight to get my adrenaline in check, gauge their reaction by throwing a few feints and jabs, and tried to get a line on their movement and distance. To me that is a feeling out period but who am I and what do I know
Yes, I want to see the rematch and I want to see absolute engagement. I want to see Rose with a little bit of confidence in her grappling. In my humble opinion, at least Carla tried to fight, whereas it looked like Rose tried to avoid the fight.
Instead of bringing the fight to Carla Rose danced around like she's Gods' gift to movement but did very very little in the form of engagement.
The rematch needs to happen.
The way rose cheered at the end because she got one fucjing takedown..... WOW. That goes to show she thought she won off that ONE takedown.
Yep she walked out saying she's the best, obviously a very mentally weak person, compared to other fighters. Probably four times as mentally strong as me
I would have rather watched Dada 5000 vs Kimbo fight again, and they both been dead for 5 years 💀
0:53 woah! 36 mins 😂🤣
Gotta love Chael
Rose at the end walking round the ring mouthing “i am the best” 🤦♂️
And the other chicks who fought before, the tall blonde one who fought like she was absolutely exhausted to start bouncing round the room like a spring lamb as soon as the final bell went 🤦♂️
Last nights event had some majorly embarrassing moments
Chael, my body is ready for the Tony video. Rip it off like a band aid already.
Is Tony awake yet? I think we should at least wait until then.
It was an MMA fight playing out exactly as it should when both fighters wanted to play it safe and not take risks due to the strengths of the opponent
Key word in your statement is "fight", they never got to that part. It was more of a MMA Dance.
"Fighters Playing It Safe Championship " isnt what the people paid to see.
@@ForeverYoungKickboxer there should be NOTHING safe about a fight
thank you Chael 100% better watch
Uncle Chael....I was waiting on this!! Rose had all the tools in the book to dominate this fight!! She didn't use ANY OF THEM!! To see her take steps back and rest, like she was putting in work...was so confusing!! They gave Carla that belt because they were ashamed of Rose...well warranty!
There is no positive way to look at that fight, It's a sad look for Rose trying to defend that
The fact Rose thought she could retain the title with that performance amazes me
The fact that Carla could remove the belt from a standing champion with that performance amazes me
@@hugep10 glad it happened…sends a message to all future champs to not bring that weak shit for title defense
do you think the Ref should of stepped in? I dont recall any warnings
Rose wasn’t fighting to win, she was fighting not to lose. True story.
The loose goose ?
I am by no means an expert…but I felt like Carla was pressuring a little more and that Rose kept backing away anytime there was a hint of confrontation. I don’t care what the score was there’s no way she should have retained the belt, that would set a terrible precedent
Half of Adesanyas wins are based on him backing up all fight
@@kyleelpel9402 at least he does leg kicks so he's doing the bare minimum
Hat off to Mr Sonnen, he presents all the components of an unbiased argument & let's the audience decide. I hope MSM media are taking note of this old skool genius.
LOL @ this statement
I'm *so* glad the Canelo vs Bivol fight started IMMEDIATELY after Chandler vs Tony and also finished EXACTLY before the UFC main event. So I didn't have to endure watching this fight, perfect!
Obviously judges don’t approach it like this but I feel like the fighter shouting “I’m the best” deserves to lose the belt given the match we witnessed
Rose going for a take down with 9 seconds left in the fight to make sure that nothing could happen is extremely disrespectful to everyone who paid for that fight and the sport of mma
Last night was a disaster for me man. Everybody who I was rooting for in the main 3 fights lost. Gaethje, Rose, and Tony...or not, that's cool too. 😑🤔😐😫😥😒😔
I feel your pain man woke up this morning just in shock
@@grinch2000irl Right my dude. Straight Up. I knew that Charles COULD submit Gaethje, but I thought that Justin would knock his head off of his shoulders man. He threw too many naked leg kicks. You can't be doing that at the height of the best division within the best promotion on earth. It's worked for him in the past, but idk man. I didn't even fight, and I'm depressed ffs. Lmao. Stay Up Man!! ✌️🤙
Saaame here, also the Canelo loss
:(
@@joooanit0224 I agree. I was at the point where I felt like Canelo was never going to lose again. Then, boom. There are weight classes for a reason. Dude was bigger, and also incredibly skilled. I would never try to take that from him in a comment. Hats off to all the winners, but damn.
Beyond frustrating to watch. Rose clearly could've beat the shit out of Carla if she chose to but because of her apprehension from her previous loss as well as Pat telling her she was doing everything right, she gave the belt away. That being said I'm not quite sure how the judges came to the conclusion that Carla won. In my mind they both lost.
I actually found the commentators very entertaining during the co main event. Dc, Joe, and Jon carried me through that 25 mins of lack lust.
Rose's corner lost that fight for her. Pat Barry kept telling her that she was winning when she was doing fkall! What he should have done was to tell her to pick the pace up!
Yes I also blame Pat. Something off with that guy. He said the boos means she's doing good. She should dump him for that.
That is the difficult part of having someone in your corner who is the love of your life. Many times, they don't want to tell you what you NEED to hear. He was more worried about Rose not panicking then waking her up to become far more aggressive.
Rose needed Aspen Ladds man in her corner! Look at all the shit he got for telling Aspen EXACTLY wtf he should’ve been telling her! Shit like this is why!
Imagine Izzy vs romero but they were being boring on purpose
And without the ticking bomb that we all know Romero could (didn't) but could do something absolutely insane at any moment. Just like the Francis/Lewis fight. In the moment you at least have the stress of knowing these guys could explode.
At least Romero's KO power justifies Izzy's plan and made that fight the slightest bit suspenseful
That shade thrown in at the end got me
The judges flipped a quarter after each round to decide the winner
Rose did not lose this fight, her corners did. Rose clearly thought she was winning mainly because she thought that she was executing a game plan perfectly. Her corners, we’re clearly not on the same page, one wanted to hype rose up for following through with a game plan, the other one realized that she could still win this fight if she became the aggressor and caused some damage. If you’re in Rose’s position you gotta be really confused about what to do.
Agree. I would guess Rose's team's gameplan was to stay on the outside for the fight and piece Carla up coming. It seems to me that neither Rose nor her coaching staff could adapt from the original game plan as it faltered. They probably expected that Carla would just rush the takedown and be careless.
Whitman told Rose show her who you are before the fifth. And she did. And she won that round handily. Why was she so afraid of the takedown? She got up and fought off like 90 percent. She lost that fight to a ghost in her own mind.
Rose didn’t win any round handily in this fight lmao
@@DTS_I so true, whereas carla clearly won at least two rounds maybe three, i ultimately gave her four rounds to roses one, i did give rose a close fifth round because she was tagging her on the feet that round in addition to the takedown
@@leetheflea4096 facts. I can’t be mad when a champion puts on a pathetic performance like that and they lose their title.
I would call it a split draw.... no one wins and the belt is vacated. I didn't see it, but from what I hear, neither rose or Carla was the champion that night. I'm gonna make sure to watch the rest the main card. I saw The undercard and it was awesome. Alot of solid new talent.
I love that the biggest lock (in my mind that night) screwed my 5 fight parlay. I thought I had it in the bank. Thanks Rose. (Reminds me of the night I bet on Shogun at +400 against Machida and everyone thought I was about to make a ton of cash until the judges read the decision)
Also felt Rose didn't want to engage in the second fight against Zhang, very underwhelming. I wasn't surprised that was the game plan and she would dance around. But by the 4th round they were all delusional and thinking way too much of themselves in that corner. Rose is my favorite female fighter but I don't like what I saw in the last 2 fights.
The judges gave Rose the best in the 2nd Weli fight. If this had been Weli vs Carla. They both would have been bloodied and we would all want a second fight. Judges pity rose too much
Correct
I don’t think Rose could figure out a way to attack Carla. Everyone saying she was being “calculated” nah she just couldn’t figure it out
Everybody's allowed a bad night but this was avoidance at the highest levels.
Nah... She was listening to her yes man boy friend. Trevor seemed like he wanted to tell her to get going but didn't want to overstep Pat's gameplan.... Which was failing.... obviously
@@bobbychuckles8764 I agree idk what the hell kind of advice Pat was trying to give her but I think she should’ve took Trevor’s advice over Pat’s
@@bobbychuckles8764 If she thought she was doing enough to win that's her own fault. Her coaches didn't do their job but ultimately, it's on her. She's the one in the ring.
@@MMAallday67 Should she assume her corner is giving her 100% wrong advise?
the weird thing with MMA judging is they seem like a take down is the ultimate move because anytime someone gets takedown regardless if they do anything or not they give them the round
Well, no one threw any punches within 10 feet of their opponent, so I don't know what else there was to judge in this particular case.
I wrote on MMA Pro Gambling channel the day before the fight all of the reasons why Carla could win...The response was I was out of my mind...She was fightiing not to lose..The question I ponder is what if Carla had the belt?
I say it would have been pretty damn good...Never again should these 2 be involved in a championship fight..