Lars Von Trier - Antichrist [Epilogue]
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- The epilogue of Lars Von Trier movie "Antichrist". Music by Händel's Lascia ch'io pianga (from his 'Rinaldo' opera) performed by mezzosporano Tuva Semmingsen & Barokksolistene and recorded in Kastelskirken in Copenhagen.
I love the connotation that the body is nourished by the earth (the berries) - kind of a rebirth.
"Lascia ch'io pianga", from the opera Rinaldo by Händel :)
Nice ad for Axe body spray.
Bertman54321 underrated comment
🤣
Berry infusion
This is clearly a modernized version of the Orpheus myth. The parallels are too close for coincidence. Orpheus attempts to rescue Eurydice from the Underworld. After he fails, he wanders the earth until he comes across the Maenads. Also called the Bacchae, these were a female Dionysiast cult who used wine and drugs to work themselves into a frenzy in which they roamed the woods tearing apart any living thing they encountered with their hands and teeth... including poor Orpheus. In some of the legends it even occurs on a hilltop.
If there is, as Jacob Hoss asserts, a more violent version on DVD, well, that would just be adding an exclamation point, wouldn't it?
Thanks for pointing that out.
Yeah, but remember that The Objection The Maenads raised is that Orpheus shunned Female-kind after Eurydice's death, by bringing pedophilia to The Greek World, only enjoying the embraces of young boys. If we want to use this Orpheus symbol, we must investigate if the couple's child was being abused by both spouses, and not just the crazed mother.
First:
"Three times the sun had ended the year, in watery Pisces, and Orpheus had abstained from the love of women, either because things ended badly for him, or because he had sworn to do so. Yet, many felt a desire to be joined with the poet, and many grieved at rejection. Indeed, *he was the first of the Thracian people to transfer his love to young boys, and enjoy their brief springtime, and early flowering, this side of manhood."*
Then, later on:
"While the poet of Thrace, with songs like these, drew to himself the trees, the souls of wild beasts, and the stones that followed him, see, how the frenzied Ciconian women, their breasts covered with animal skins, spy Orpheus from a hilltop, as he matches songs to the sounding strings. One of them, her hair scattered to the light breeze, called: *‘Behold, behold, this is the one who scorns us!’* and hurled her spear at the face of Apollo’s poet, as he was singing. Tipped with leaves, it marked him, without wounding. The next missile was a stone, that, thrown through the air, was itself overpowered by the harmony of voice and lyre, and fell at his feet, as though it were begging forgiveness for its mad audacity. But in fact the mindless attack mounted, without restraint, and mad fury ruled. All their missiles would have been frustrated by his song, but the huge clamour of the Berecyntian flutes of broken horn, the drums, and the breast-beating and howls of the Bacchantes, drowned the sound of the lyre. Then, finally, the stones grew red, with the blood of the poet, to whom they were deaf."
--Ovid
Plot twist: he eats poisonous berries and dies
lol
I think your version is the best explanation.
This isn't the Hunger Games
thepromman I believe AtomicLemonade was referencing Into the Woods.
I pondered this movie weeks after viewing it....absolutely brilliant. Although it is confronting, it's not the graphic scenes that stuck with me...more the underlying themes and brooding 'nature' of the story
The film mocks exposure therapy (LVT suffers from depression). The prologue sings "May SORROW BREAK these chains of my sufferings" and Dafoe follows suit. He exposes his wife to sorrow to cure her suffering and fails. Would you cure soldiers w PTSD by firing blanks at them? It's no different than expecting a fox (wife) to self-disembowel (face pain head-on) or expect a deer (his wife) to be grief-less while her fawn is dead, or beat a crow (witches) to death to silence it's despair/voice...
I majored in psychology and one of the first lessons is to never, ever treat your loved ones. I knew that and still did it, my fiancee had borderline personality disorder and tried to kill me several times, so goddamn stupid of me.
@@andreafomasidirector The usual: it's gay, but now with surgical masks.
@@Turtleproofyeah I'm sure you've learned the hard way not to have a relationship with anyone with mental illness like I did. Run. Flee. It's not worth your life and years of trauma. You can't save them. Mentally ill people create more mental illness in those around them. Especially those who believe they can rescue them.
This movie was well made. When asked about the meaning of the film, Lars said "forgive me for I do not know what i do". Lars was basically trolling this interviewer. All the answers are there. Just like that ending of The Sopranos.
Maybe this is about him walking after everything he's been through, just to see a hundred women who have gone through similar treatment?
I think - at least my personal interpretation is - faceless women depict the throes of women that died in history because they were deemed crazy, witches etc.
That’s what I think too
I love how curiously upbeat this epilogue is, in comparison to the scenes preceding it. Gotta love von Trier.
My theory: since Charlotte Gainsbourg has mutilated Willem Dafoe to the point that he's become a "proto-woman," what he sees are the ghosts of women of past centuries - the ones who men have vilified since the dawn of time - returning to their holy ground to welcome their new "sister" home.
Ok basically yea I suppose it could be seen as a bit pretentious but don't you get bored of horror movies that are really straight forward and predictable. I would rather watch Antichrist than house of wax.... Extreme comparison but, c'mon, it could be worse
Very self indulgent, but at the same time disturbing and beautifully shot. Charlotte Gainsbourg was fantastic
Это прекрасно
I've always enjoyed Von Trier's films as comedy, the way that people like Tim and Eric.
Yay! For I am of the Serpent's party; Knowledge is good, be the price what it may. - my interpretation
I didn't understand this first time around, love it now
Lars Von Trier? Genius...
That is a good reaction (so long as you're not depressed BECAUSE you don't understand it!)
I don't get the ending. can someone explain to me why the women are coming up to the mountain and such?
art films man. did you honestly expect any better?
+Don Draper Another interpretation is those women represent or better said are the souls of all those women who were killed or executed due religious reasons. Still I consider this scene as an open interpretation.
stick to transformers, kiddo.
The movie deals with themes of male fear and anxiety regarding love, marriage, and reproduction. The wife tortured their son throughout his short life, either murdered him or at least let him die via autodefenestration whilst she watched, and allusions to castration and clitorectomy, signifying the death of erotic pleasure in marriage, and simultaneously the death of a once-young man's ambitions due to marriage, were present throughout. Though in the end Dafoe's character manages to outwit and defeat his wife before she could murder him, he is run down by a herd of faceless women as he escapes on his maimed leg. This seems to signify that his enemy was not his wife as an individual, but the entire female sex, which acts as a destructive, almost impersonal force of nature.
A great film to watch back-to-back with Antichrist is David Lynch's seminal classic Eraserhead. Very similar themes at work in both.
this was very informative, thank you. i was looking for some explanation of the symbolism.
I dont think its necessarily upbeat. Did you mean because of the song? It also plays in the prologue as the boy is falling and that certainly didn't look upbeat to me :)
Why the people in epilogue don't have a face?
Was there a slightly different ending in a DVD version? I distinctly remember the ending being more explicitly violent, with the herd of women-folk lustily shouting as they swarmed Willem Dafoe.
Jesus i haven't heard of that one
this movie left me depressed for a whole week and yet i haven't understand totally what it is trying to show ://
For me, there were two weeks, but I got the point
With the part where the women appear, what does that mean? I remember watching a review of this, and I wondered what it meant.
@MegamaXX500
Ahem.
The poster you're responding to didn't say anything about the scene or even specifically why he liked it. He implied that Von Trier was genius, not the scene.
Does anyone know the point of censoring the faces thogh?
Probably isolation.
The way I see it, it's to represent all womankind who has been vilified over the centuries. By becoming "faceless" and indistinguishable, they all become one.
The fuck did any of that have to do with the Antichrist?
Loool
Did you even watch the movie? She says it herself: "Nature is Satan's church," and she is writing a book about how women became witches or maidens of the devil.
thanks for uploading it, words can not describe this sequence...
What happend at the end? I hear it's just nasty!
why did the wife cripple her son's feet?
My Theory: He Was Finally Not Scared To Die...The End #Summer #feels
que final tan aterrador y chido
for a weird reason though i wish i could >.
Random ass movie
Filme nojento Deus é Mais, salmo 91