Haha same. But then I remember how I present my illustration work and how I like to dress up sometimes, but also how I’m getting ever closer to running out of clean dishes again, with the likelihood of me washing them soon being pretty low, and the fact that at this point most people wake up before I go to bed and I realize that people can be really immaculate in one specific area of their life and be complete hot garbage everywhere else.
Exactly. When I got married, a fashion designer friend of my father-in-law made a quick-deployable cape out of black parachute nylon for me so it was completely concealed behind my lapels - and when we were about to leave the church my then wife pulled the QD cord and the cape swooshed out to billow behind me as we left to the Imperial March. Because if you can have a cape, why wouldn’t you have a cape?
When you pulled Rupert out to help with demonstrating how the clothes would look, I said, "Oh, how cool!" out loud, and then had to explain the premise of video to my sister. That was an excellent idea.
I think it would be very interesting to have you all in a "round table" discussion on how modern garment could be used to make the illusion of something that could have been warn in an other area.
Are you telling me that Monty Python and the Holy Grail isn't a documentary................................ *mumbles* I'm gonna have to call my history teacher about that essay
I'm a total Arthurian nerd and I was literally making heart eyes at how well this guy knows his stuff. So many people just place Arthur in some vaguely 12th-century generically medieval setting, so it's such a breath of fresh air to see him accurately placed as a 5th-6th century Briton, and hear someone knowledgeable about the period talk about what someone from that culture would've actually worn. But then you guys went above and beyond and included little details from the legends like the Virgin Mary image on his shield! YES! I love that you got an actual Welsh medievalist to consult on this.
@Kanada Dry Interesting thought, but we have most of the core elements of Arthurian legend in works of 9th and 10th century. I think it has more to do with chivalry and the development of the courtly society in 12th century. In this time, many novels about king Arthur were written, not just in England but all over Europe. These spread of Arthurian legend gave the nobility an idol of a perfect king and a perfect, courtial society which they tried to copy. That, in turn, is the reason we nowadays mix up king Arthur with generic 12th century medieval setting: Because many of the typical elements like Avalon, Lancelot and even Merlin were added in that period when the novels were written.
Just look at the Romans. Their flamboyant power was so shocking to Europe that it's influence lasted for countless centuries after its fall. There's a reason they ruled so much of the world and built modern western civilization.
Extra bonus points to Niklas, mostly for dressing the mannequin (and himself) so appropriately, but also the beard and styled moustache. And Zack too for dressing appropriately, wig and all.
Just like the female counterparts, the most historical accurate version is so much more visually interesting and extra than the costumes, which is kinda weird
That's why I like the 1977 hobbit movie because the men of Dale are wearing more like what the men would have wore. Also the mens hair wasn't ridiculously long as they were in peter Jackson's movies. I mean if your wearing chainmail, you may not have to have tonsured or shaved heads, but, you definitely would not wear it as long as they show it in the movies.
No, it makes total sense. Those costumes are made to be cost efficient to produce. If they made them as elaborate as their historical inspirations then they wouldn't be affordable to their target market.
@@KaptenN Yeah, it really makes sense for the thing those costumes are for: wearing it a few times (often probably only one time) for some party. I guess the best thing people can do is to rent costumes, because even most clothes are probably produced in miserable conditions, those poor quality costumes are probably even worse.
Even more ironic when you remember his surname is Pendragon (Welsh for "head dragon"). And he's even got his own coat-of-arms, featuring two gold dragons crowned with red standing back-to-back, which, if you ask me, looks WAY cooler.
That one I’m a little forgiving, as Arthur’s title is “Pendragon”. Course Pendragon is actually an inherited name given to Arthur’s father Uther (by the way I just realized how saxons sounding the name Uther is), and considering Celtic Britain culture you were expected to make your own name, I’m questioning why that Epithet is even given in the first place.
@@dylantennant6594 Given how many iterations the Arthurian legend went through _that we know about_ (in some of the earliest versions, he isn't even a king), I'm guessing that was one of the earlier ones that didn't get passed all the way down - possibly the Saxons co-opting a story of Briton anti-Saxon resistance. That's the cost of being a legend. Everyone else wants to tell your story.
Well I just learned something completely new today. That is very interesting that Arthur's title names him as the "head dragon" when it was also the symbol of the people he supposedly fought against. Then again, who else can take down a dragon, but another dragon? Yet I do still find myself more drawn to the mythical versions of Arthur wielding a sword forged of Avalon steel, student of a powerful magician and slayer of ogres, compared to the more "realistic" version. I'd love to see a story that merges the interpretations and is still fun to watch.
"Our lives are full of vague essences of history, just waiting for creative application" is a GOOD LINE. Whew. Such a great point - purpose bought costumes designed explicitly to be worn once and trashed is so silly when you can make or thrift or scrounge together something that will look the same in terms of effectiveness and quality, but will save you some cash!
I love this too. I watch these costubers make all these beautifully historically accurate clothes and I’m like I want that! But I can’t sew to that extent and I don’t have the time or the passion for sewing itself to learn, and I can’t afford to buy them. Well maybe I could very rarely save up for one but then what to choose?! But I have found a lot of clothes in op shops (aka thrift stores/charity shops - I’m not sure if they’re ever called op shops outside of Australia?), or my Mum’s old closet, or markets and clothes swaps that are “vaguely historical” looking that can work for Halloween costumes or everyday wear, and are at least a lot lower percentage of plastic overall. It’s nice learning about the history so you can see what the modern, and newer vintage stuff was inspired by but then still doing your own thing with it. I especially like when it’s less like historical-ish clothes fed through a modern aesthetic like a lot of these Halloween costumes and movies, but more a blending of both which often leads to a bit more uniqueness.
My brother was a cowboy for Halloween on year. He wore a plaid shirt over a Henley, tucked everything into his plainest pair of jeans, and got suspenders, a cowboy hat, and a pair of boots from a thrift shop. He now uses the hat & boots when he does yard work (gardening to the folks in the UK)…. He did force the suspenders on the neighbor kid when his pants were … shall we say … falling down
Literally managed to costume myself for an 18th century set LARP by using some of my school uniform, with my white knee-socks pulled OVER my black tights to give the illusion of breeches, and charity shop menswear (give or take a hand-me-down). That LARP was one of my firsts, before I'd started hunting costume pieces down specifically, yet my existing history nerdery & some quick google image referencing meant all the difference in how confidently I'd feel in my costume. At the event they had probs for use, including hats - tricorn on head, I had a great time being a bumbling officer out of her depth trying to maintain "law&order" amidst a revolution. I think I was the sole surviving "loyalist" by the end of the night, all other royalists being politely murdered or collectively executed. I remain grateful to my goody-2-shoes school shoes for so thoroughly keeping me in-character at that LARP.
I won an online costume contest with stuff from my closet and a pair of suede pants I got at Goodwill. I did Calamity Jane - suede pants, suede boots, a gingham shirt over a black mock-turtleneck, leather belt and gloves, suede fringed coat and a fedora. I tied my hair back with a leather thong.
Honestly the 1920s costume reminded me of how historically accurate my school’s Peaky Blinders inspired version of Romeo and Juliet was. The costume designer and tech director put in SO MUCH work to make both the set and outfits look accurate. Granted, it was a high school theatre so there was only so much they could do on a limited budget lmao
Zack is very entertaining and should be in more colabs! I also like how we gently raises the ethical question of getting a one-wear outfit from a sweatshop.
He's spot on about the insane amounts of money Americans spend on cheap overseas Halloween costumes that are so disposable. when they could instead save up for or make a high end quality costume they could wear year round that would be spectacular. That being said I'm 100% guilty & hypocritical and bought a cheap "1700s" costume on Amazon to dress a plastic Halloween skeleton for a pirate party decoration.
All those costumes give me the impression of “video game character from the early 00s” in all their polygonal glory, where the colours and lines might be in a vaguely? correct? position? but there’s no concept of fabric weight or drape and the shapes are all rather limited by the crudely rendered graphics. 😂
Assassin's Creed does a rather good job with clothing. They really sink their teeth into primary sources when they're doing character design. Except for haircuts but eh, we can't have everything.
@@lolitabubbles26 Although they do take some liberties with the MC's clothing. I haven't checked this yet, but I'm 80% sure that Ezio's clothes in Brotherhood were deliberately cut to match the symbol of the Assassins'. Specifically the skirt(?) line. It's longer in the back and shorter in the front and I think the angles roughly match up. But they do a good job making it feel like it belongs in the world. I was actually playing Brotherhood when I paused to watch this video, so it was on my mind.
Rule isn't govern, nor administrate. Ruling as the wmbodiment of God's will on Earth means shock and awe and no apologies and kill the haters. Literally have them killed because you can do that.
@Aracnix Both I suppose. I can think of a Monarch that has had some 14 PM’s rule under Them half of wich are dead. Clearly the filth within Their family and elsewhere doesn’t bother Them. Not very impressive clothes I would say but always very on brand just like Merkel. I am sure there is some measure by which They deserve some credit...
Re:the conclusion, I would love if you did a video on creating a "historical impression" costume using items a 21st century person might have in their closet!
If you were referring to Zack (the guy in the wig with Bernadette at her place) He dresses like that everyday, he owns no modern clothes. If referring to Niklas the German guy, he's awesome too and has some very insightful videos on his channel pertaining to his area of experience.
Legitimately. As a man who sews, it gets REALLY frustrating to try to find anything historical that isn’t set in the entirely wrong setting. Like some viking “tunics” I’ve seen that were pirate/fake renaissance knockoffs lol… Though I AM curious about why The Welsh Viking specified vegetable tanned leather, was brain tanning not a thing in Europe?
She didn't really show it, but ancient times is another thing in terms of menswear Hollywood and others keep screwing up. The Spartans' armor did NOT look like Romans, and Greek tunics were not like Roman togas either! A little historical research can make a world of difference. I love a lot of Hollywood's "Sword and Sandal" epics, but sometimes I have to chuckle or cringe at the inaccuracies.
I like that the concept of renting a costume for a one night use was brought up--much more better than investing in cheap things that will end up a land fill!
I would love to see a companion BB video to this that illustrates how to create a "one night only" historical look using household materials or thrifted clothes, to help out those who've been convinced not to buy the terrible amazon costumes anymore.
I’m just loving watching all of these well-educated, beautifully eloquent people coming together to have these wonderfully passionate and nerdy conversations about waistcoats from hundreds of years ago. I hope that I can find the likes of such great persons in my future.
"Historical clothes were clothes, not costumes." I had this conversation with one of the ladies in my local fabric shop when she asked if I was making a Halloween costume. (She caught me measuring myself for a cloak, because I had to calculate whether the roll had enough fabric for what I wanted to do). I think I said something along the lines of, "When something is designed and built to be a costume, it looks like a costume, and therefore feels fake regardless of how un/familiar you are with the real thing. When something is designed to be functional clothing, it looks like functional clothing, and therefore feels real even if it's not entirely accurate in its portrayal. But if you're going to make a functional piece of clothing, you might as well make use of its functionality and, y'know, wear it." I then explained I had already made a functional winter cloak, but it's too hot for the light chill of rainy spring or foggy autumn days. So I'm making a thinner wool cloak for the purposes of shrugging off wind and rain without trapping so much heat that I die the second the sun comes out :p
@@EmberWing23 Zack has also received that kind of treatment from time to time, including being denied entry somewhere because they don’t allow fancy dress costume. He was wearing his usual clothes, perfectly appropriate for going out in the evening.
Wearing historical clothing is an eye opening experience. You either experience the "ok we got this part wrong because I can't move, breathe, I am going to die" or " wow this works so well why did we stop wearing this"
@@lenabreijer1311 I really depend a lot on what type of cloths you are talking about. Much of heavy winter cloths are just that very heavy and if you do not go with the animal fur version not that good.
When Niklas started dressing his mannequin... it just blows my mind that men don't just clamber to dress like that. It looks so wonderful! Shoot, *I* want a suit like that, and I'm typically a strict femme dresser. It's just so sharp and snazzy!
As a man, Sure it looks great and who doesn't look good in a suit, but i just don't find all those layers comfortable. Unless i *need* to be presentable, i'd much rather wear a t-shirt and chinos because it's way more comfortable.
I'd love to see more videos with Zack in them if possible, the banter and friendly chemistry between you two is really fun to watch, and Zack is very charming ^_^ (The clip of him petting Cesario like an evil mastermind really got me X3 )
I really want her to do an episode on painting and describing what a historically accurate King Arthur and Queen Guinevere would've worn in the 6th century AD.
No idea because they were a work of fiction invented...like a millenia later. So we'd have to use a version of what people a few centuries ago thought kings would dress.
@@jorriffhdhtrsegg Pro tip from a historian focused on the British Isles: if you want to try to make a wildly disproven claim and be respected for it, know the difference between 'centuries' and 'millenium'.
I loved getting a peek into menswear. For both this one and last year's, I would love to see an attempt at making a better version of the costumes at a similar time and price point. Like gathering components from a thrift shop and using only very basic and quick techniques to alter them.
My fave part is where Zack Pinsent describes the authentic collection of court garments that inspired modern-day Halloween costumes. Zacks humor is great too and I think it would be nice to see more collaborations between him and Bernadette
I think lots of guys would *love* to rock the codpiece. Just remembering college parties and some of the get-ups guys wore. I think what bothers me most about these crappy costumes is what Zach pointed about about the wastefulness. You could go to a thrift store and get actual clothes that, with a couple key pieces and the right silhouette, would create these costumes and they would look phenomenal. And the best part is you can return them to the thrift store when you're done wearing it. Or discover an unknown love of dressing vintage.
@@michellebyrom6551 Sounds......intriguing? As the 'box' is tucked into a pocket in the jockstrap a belt is part of the assembly. And I have to assume the fur cuff would only cover the front? My, my!
YES I sometimes thrift in my mom’s closet and a lot of the clothing she had before she was pregnant with me works great with my silhouette and I also think it’s a great way to be environmentally friendly and not waste perfectly good pieces of clothing, no matter how old. I kind of want to go thrifting in my dad’s closet but I’m a little scared lol, and a lot of the pieces of clothing he has would be great for aesthetic outfits (I love dark academia) or just being comfortable hehe. And fast fashion just really “gets” to me in hundreds of ways: The design is disgustingly cheap, the dye job is either blinding and visually unappealing or just washed out and gross and carries a smell that could literally act as an anesthetic, the fabric rips in two seconds or turns to plastic twice as fast…you get it.
"Clothes not costumes" is exactly why we refer to what we wear at Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) events as garb. They are our interpretation of historical period garments that we recreate and live in while performing daily living activities. I tend to dress Viking Age Norse (I take full liberty of the word "creative" and mix elements from 800-1100) or ancient Greek.
Bernadette, Niklas, Jimmy and Zack all in one video talking about historical men's wear what could be better? Except maybe a video of Zack walking around London with his lordship in one of his giant pockets taking the air.
Quite interestingly, there's an RPG called "King Arthur Pendragon", based in classic arthurian mythos. It's VERY historically accurate, except in one thing. Armour. It's an in-game mechanic that when Arthur is king, because he is the True King, England begins to develop amazing armour and weapons that didn't exist for centuries. Then once he dies, the "magic" of Arthur drains away, and people begin to revert back to maille and gambeson.
I'm a regular watcher and omg you would NOT believe my surprise to see my old friend Samantha show up here!! I always thought of her and our reenacting days whenever I watched your videos, so my eyes practically flew out of my face haha! I'm glad to know my thoughts of "man, they should totally connect sometime" were manifested. :) Loved this, as usual!! Thank you for the exciting surprise!!
In the UK generally when I was a child in the 70s we only wore "Halloween" fancy dress, that is to say, witches, mummies, ghosts, vampires etc, to see people wearing princess dresses and other such "non-Halloween" costumes in the US was very strange.
I was a kid in the 90s but it was the same for me. I feel like the trend for just dressing up in costumes that aren't "scary" is a much more contemporary US import. And honestly I really like it because I see so much more creativity from it. Last Halloween party I went to a friend was dressed as a lobster with red oven mitts as their claws and someone who was a jellyfish with an amazing umbrella contraption with fairy lights trailing off it. It wasn't an ocean themed party it's just a coincidence that those are the fun costumes I can remember 😂. I was a cat because I'm extremely lazy when it comes to costumes lol.
@@AM-kr4pv I have no issue with fancy dress, but I'd prefer Halloween to be scary. There's nothing stopping people throwing fancy dress parties at other times of the year.
@@solatiumz I'm a big baby who gets scared and grossed out super easily so this evolution of Halloween has been perfect for me 😂. I mean I love the macabre, I'm a (super lazy) goth after all, but there's no real separation of that from the horror movie type stuff here I feel.
@@solatiumz You can throw a costume party at any time too and have it be scary then. People usually only dress up once a year and it should be something they enjoy especially children. And not everyone is going to enjoy dressing up as something "scary". Its just supposed to be fun.
"I want him in mail and wool.... And leather." I shall uh get my mind out of the gutter there lol. Also Nikolas 'Menswear Connoiseur, Not an Actual Gangster' made me chuckle. And this made me think that the time period of clothing I like best is probably the early 1900s suits Nikolas was talking about. :)
How fun for you filming this! Gentlemen who not only dress historically accurate but know what they're talking about. Thank you all for contributing to this video.
Love that everyone who understands how much time, skill, and money is required to make quality garments never fails to remind us of the plight of the working poor who make these fast fashion garments. So interesting hearing about the menswear side of things!
Me too, Greg!! Great gent period fashion perspects - even if Halloween costumes are the substrate - LOVE IT - they need a good makeover at any cost!!! And I will forever call dibs that BB will stand on an Oscar winning stage some day!! I hope she shouts out "Renee said it first"!!! My dream shout out : )
Thank you for doing a gentleman's costume video. I loved the female version. Each of your guest were so sweet to try and find something positive, even though they were cringing at the obvious flaws. I see the editing skills you've acquired over the years. I love your work as always
omg, the male version of Bernadette!! this was actually a really cool video, i loved the passion shown by the guy for King Arthur/medieval times, you can tell that he really cares about and has extensively researched the period! also, the "Peaky Blinders" guy who just casually has a mannequin ready to dress up 😂
I love hearing that you got to call upon the passionate and learned of gents clothing in those eras to guide your drawings and inform us. It was both fascinating and highly entertaining. Also Mr. Pinsent snuggling his lordship was so darn cute, I can't deal!💙
Amazing. I never wanted to drop 4 grand on an awesome period costume more than when I see Zach rocking that whole look. If only there was an 18th century version of a Renaissance festival!
I love how with the Henry costume, since it was based on an actual portrait, you could do nothing but recreate the same portrait... sans codpiece. I would love to see more things like this; it's so interesting to see how the cultural perception of these time periods is so different from the reality!
zach, in the best way possible, reminds me of the rich and pretentious suitor in ever period drama who eventually gets killed or punched in the jaw by the male lead.
I disagree, he's being fun and pointing out the flaws of the industry and how you may better be suited to choose something else rather than the costume.
So I work in a theatrical store as a costumer, and it's blowing my mind out my butt right now to have learned that the collars on those shirts were detachable, self-contained things. I had just assumed that was what the shirts looked like. I have spent months getting frustrated that we have next to no non-modern, historical-in-any-way men's shirts, and have had to make all kinds of substitutions and allowances. Now I wonder if there is a beautiful box of collars somewhere in the building for me to work with. I can't believe I never knew or read that so many of these collars were detachable. You just mildly changed my life and saved me a lot more frustration. Bless this channel and all you amazing peoples' expertise.
I really appreciate how Bernadette brought in guest specialists to talk about the different eras - it was really nice to learn about different folks in the historical dress field!
I absolutely LOVE Zack's analogy😂, when he said that I just imagined running around with a hair dryer and just heat gunning people in costumes and yelling over the noise "Has it Shrinked yet!!" 😂😂
The fashion history is awesome as always obviously, but can we take a moment to appreciate bernadette's art skills???!! As an "artist" myself, i am in awe
There's a chemistry when people are able to be in the same room, and the face at 15:48 and the lowering to precisely Bernadette's height at 16:10 were such joys.
So, would King Arthur be clean-shaven because of the Roman influences? Because we established "not *that* beard," but we didn't really come back to the history of... 5th-6th century British facial hair.
As someone who has a family of renaissance fair goers, and as someone who loves historical dress, I say with confidence that any of these costume will not do you justice. It is far better, if you don't want the actual clothing, to either find modern clothing to fit the look and feel as close as you can, or to invest in some historic clothing pieces and see what can be made with those. I know sometimes we don't care if it's accurate or we just wanna experiment or maybe you don't have the means or money to get the exact look. However I have learned a few rules that help me with my historic clothing journey. 1. Layers. Layers are magical and are historically accurate. Our layers today are not all that different and if you apply layers to your look, you have a good start. 2. Natural cloth. That is to say linen, wool, cotton, and other cloths that are not synthetic. Even blends are better than full synthetic. Research fabrics and make sure they are breathable. Natural layers help you breath while synthetic layers suffocate you. 3. Silhouettes. I'm sure viewers of this channel understand this simple rule. Silhouettes can make or break the outfit. While untrained eyes can be fooled, those who know cannot often see past it. And while perfection is sometimes impossible, even an attempt is better than none at all. 4. Accessories and attitude. Small things go a long way and can boost an outfit. Even if you aren't going entirely historically accurate, these can move your pieces in the right direction. Hair and makeup also play a part here as we all know and can help even an imperfect outfit come across more accurate. Finally, remember that many of us cannot afford hundreds and thousands of dollars of historically accurate outfits and costumes nor do we all have the the means or skill to sew all the time. And that's ok. Perfection is often unobtainable. It comes with time, and effort, and persistentance. And even then, mistakes happen and it's ok. Have fun with it. It's a journey. Even the best of us are still learning new things all the time. Effort will show if you give it and people will appreciate it. I know I kinda rambled here but I just wanted to put this out and if it helps anyone else on their journey, then I will be happy. And if anyone else had anything to add or comment on, feel free. I'm still very green in historic clothing stuff and i make mistakes. But, I'm gonna have fun with it.
The interesting Halloween costume challenge is to make something from sheets without much sewing (relying on broaches etc) - in a way that the sheets could still serve a function afterwards. Its amazing what can be achieved with some knowledge of legends and judicious use of spray on hair dye and theatrical make up. Some of my past costumes have rendered me unrecognisable to my mother (and I wasn't wearing a mask). That, to me, was always the point of Halloween costumes - to render yourself unrecognisable to friends and family.
The more shaping you can do without cutting away material, the easier it is to reuse the material for a different style later. Pleats and gathers are your friends there.
@@ragnkja indeed. Paired with careful raiding of your wardrobe leads to some very inventive costumes. Although nothing beats a costume a friend wore as a child. "The lady of the lamp" featuring multiple lampshades (including one worn on her head and another on a small lamp carried around). It really showed how a creative concept was the most important thing.
@@deetoher I think two of my friends going as a landfill might give your friend some good competition. They used those big black rubbish bags as the base of their costume, and covered themselves with (non-smelly) trash.
It would be so interesting to see a video about the history of costume parties, and where people in previous eras sourced their costumes from (did they come from their wardrobe? rented? made for the occasion?)
Love this! I’m always in awe of Bernadette’s drawings and it’s so cool we had guests this time! Would love to see Zack in more videos, your dynamic is 👌👌👌
The thing that really struck me with the Peaky Blinders costume in particular is how simple it would be to get something more period and less plastic at a thrift store in a lot of areas. I could find something that would do all those parts except maybe the hat with relative ease and it would probably be cheaper.
I actually bought Ruperts coat in a thrift store. Turning regular dress shirts into shirts that accept detachable collars is also totally doable. I did it several times.
I can’t find the words to express how much I enjoyed this. Your guests are great as always. A video is never complete without Jimmy ranting, Zak pulling faces and smuggling things in his pockets, or Rupert standing silently in the corner. And bonus cesario appearance and beautiful editing by Dani. We are spoiled. Thank you so much.
Oh, I thought it was Bernadette who did the editing ?! Is it a new thing that Dani edited this video ? I just remember Bernadette talking about editing during one video....
Love this with all my heart. It's so fun getting to see how the historical outfits would *actually* be put together and to meet so many new Cos-tubers for the first time! Thank you Bernadette for sharing!
Chucks weekend plans for the next few weeks out the window. Restocks tea and biscuits. Lights various fall scented candles. Logs into skill share…. I am ready!!!!! On a more serious note: many congratulations on the skill share course! I have toiled away many an afternoon of crafting with your videos to keep me company. I feel so inspired to make things! Not to mention the wonderful community that you have somehow cultivated! Sending hugs to Cesario 🥰
Having Zach in the same room as you was just so good, I could listen to him for hours anyway but in combination with you there's just so much skill and knowledge combined on one sewing table. The others were also really, really great. I just squealed at seeing Zach as a guest, that's all. :D (His "ugh, no" judgement on the 18th century costume was such a MOOD, I felt that)
Don’t we all need some “fur business”? Actually, no. Real fur is way too hot for where I am, and faux fur is the WORST to work with! Never again! It’s worse than velvet. But Fur Business does sound awesome.
My sister did a tailoring course once, when she have to work with fur. I can hear her say, "I swear I'm going to tear down the fur industry myself just so I don't have to work with it" every 5 second
Where I live it starting to be nice to have some extra protection around your face and hand. I have found that if you vacuum the cut at once, most of the problems "go away". For even better result you can add a seam along the edge.
I love this kind of videos of yours so much 😍 also, as a German, hearing the gentleman in the intro with that charming German accent got me even more intrigued 🙈😍😂
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"What are your initial thoughts?"
"Ugh, no."
*Mood*
Truth
I initially thought the critics were responding to one of Bernadette's sketches. I thought to myself, "Well, now, that's a bit rugged."
When a guy in a bespoke, historically accurate outfit and immaculate wig says "I'm a hot mess" and I'm here in a ripped t-shirt and unbrushed hair...
I'm stuck in bed. This has totally cheered me up. Thanks everyone!
Hot messes come in many levels. You and I are from the lower echelons. 😂
I'm in the same boat except my t-shirt isn't ripped but it is a white t-shirt that is wildly discoloured.
@@gardeninginthedesert i really think we are peasants....
Haha same. But then I remember how I present my illustration work and how I like to dress up sometimes, but also how I’m getting ever closer to running out of clean dishes again, with the likelihood of me washing them soon being pretty low, and the fact that at this point most people wake up before I go to bed and I realize that people can be really immaculate in one specific area of their life and be complete hot garbage everywhere else.
‘i feel that if i went near this person with a heat gun they may be shrink wrapped’ absolutely finished me
Even my other half laughed out loud at that one!
"His beard is bad. Everything is bad. I don't like him" - Gotta love Jimmy. His vibe checks are as accurate as his historical information.
He sounds like Violet Chatchki on the Pit Stop at that moment.
I mean, it is bad! :p
@@TheWelshViking s'tru
Points off for the term "platemail" though. The exact period and historicity of Arthur is kind of up in the air but that's a longer conversation.
Yeah if I saw someone wearing this I would shout "it's the Burger King!".
Say you're British without saying you're British: proceeds to calculate the drinks based on the cost of a costume. XD
Priorities.
No truer words in the comments than these
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"Everyone likes a swooshey cape." No truer words have ever been uttered😂
Edna Mode would like a word with you good person.
@@AnInkStick but but but... "NO CAPES!"
I just made my won cape and I want to make another 😆
Exactly. When I got married, a fashion designer friend of my father-in-law made a quick-deployable cape out of black parachute nylon for me so it was completely concealed behind my lapels - and when we were about to leave the church my then wife pulled the QD cord and the cape swooshed out to billow behind me as we left to the Imperial March.
Because if you can have a cape, why wouldn’t you have a cape?
Literally wearing a swooshy cape to school for low key Halloween tomorrow there so fun
"If you want to, I can grab my mannequin and dress for that."
Everyone, literally all of us: "YES! WE WANT THAT" 😄
lol, I said to the screen, "ohhhh yeahhhh"
I screamed! 🥰
😃
Bernadette looked so damn adorably excited! Like "I get to see the history on a mannequin?!?!"
Yes! I enjoyed his segment so much! The expertise is so wonderful from all of them!
Thank you so much for having Rupert and me! It was a great pleasure.
You and Rupert are always a delight! 😁✨
took a quick squizz at your channel and subbed.
Schön mal einen deutschen RUclipsr in vintage fashion in einem Internationalen Video zu sehen. Hab auch abonniert 😊
When you pulled Rupert out to help with demonstrating how the clothes would look, I said, "Oh, how cool!" out loud, and then had to explain the premise of video to my sister. That was an excellent idea.
I think it would be very interesting to have you all in a "round table" discussion on how modern garment could be used to make the illusion of something that could have been warn in an other area.
I love the fact that Monty Python and the Holy grail is more historically accurate than the King Arthur costume 😂
Are you telling me that Monty Python and the Holy Grail isn't a documentary................................
*mumbles* I'm gonna have to call my history teacher about that essay
The late Terry Jones was a medievalist.
Yes. It is.
And an arthurian scholar
@@cuhlainnslane1564
NI!
I'm a total Arthurian nerd and I was literally making heart eyes at how well this guy knows his stuff. So many people just place Arthur in some vaguely 12th-century generically medieval setting, so it's such a breath of fresh air to see him accurately placed as a 5th-6th century Briton, and hear someone knowledgeable about the period talk about what someone from that culture would've actually worn. But then you guys went above and beyond and included little details from the legends like the Virgin Mary image on his shield! YES!
I love that you got an actual Welsh medievalist to consult on this.
Well shucks!
@@NSYresearch I actually did follow him after watching this video! He's excellent.
"I want him in mail and wool. Mail and wool... and *leather*" Dead. (:
@Kanada Dry Interesting thought, but we have most of the core elements of Arthurian legend in works of 9th and 10th century. I think it has more to do with chivalry and the development of the courtly society in 12th century. In this time, many novels about king Arthur were written, not just in England but all over Europe. These spread of Arthurian legend gave the nobility an idol of a perfect king and a perfect, courtial society which they tried to copy. That, in turn, is the reason we nowadays mix up king Arthur with generic 12th century medieval setting: Because many of the typical elements like Avalon, Lancelot and even Merlin were added in that period when the novels were written.
Ask him out dude
"If you are not in awe of the people ruling over you, are you even being ruled?" - Zack Pinsent, 2021
I am so not in awe of those trying to rule us 😊
@@tigerlilytarot2402 Then we need to change rulers ASAP. What is even the point otherwise?
Actually a good point, and one that explains royal pagentry.
Does being in awe of their stupidity count?
@@tigerlilytarot2402 I think modern people perfer to be managed, rather than ruled.
"If you're not in awe of the people ruling over you, are you even being ruled?" Power statement, right there.
Came to say this! Completely explained the history of dress! He had so many golden lines.
Also seems to me very accurate - do not think that it anyhow mattered to peasant who exactly rules them.
Just look at the Romans. Their flamboyant power was so shocking to Europe that it's influence lasted for countless centuries after its fall. There's a reason they ruled so much of the world and built modern western civilization.
Can we have an entire video of Jimmy talking/showing more about the rainbow of natural dyes!?
You can, on his channel! See description for links.
I would love that, too!
I highly reccomend watching all of Jimmy's back catalogue of costume rants, dye-adventure and jewellery appreciation videos.
Jimmy is awesome! Dude ran a 5k in chainmail and proper woolen undergarments - for charity! I'm a fan.
He actually has a video where he tries dying. It's extreme. 😂
Extra bonus points to Niklas, mostly for dressing the mannequin (and himself) so appropriately, but also the beard and styled moustache. And Zack too for dressing appropriately, wig and all.
Just like the female counterparts, the most historical accurate version is so much more visually interesting and extra than the costumes, which is kinda weird
That's why I like the 1977 hobbit movie because the men of Dale are wearing more like what the men would have wore. Also the mens hair wasn't ridiculously long as they were in peter Jackson's movies. I mean if your wearing chainmail, you may not have to have tonsured or shaved heads, but, you definitely would not wear it as long as they show it in the movies.
No, it makes total sense. Those costumes are made to be cost efficient to produce. If they made them as elaborate as their historical inspirations then they wouldn't be affordable to their target market.
@@KaptenN You have a point there!
@@KaptenN Yeah, it really makes sense for the thing those costumes are for: wearing it a few times (often probably only one time) for some party. I guess the best thing people can do is to rent costumes, because even most clothes are probably produced in miserable conditions, those poor quality costumes are probably even worse.
and significantly more expensive. how about these entitled fucks recreate the costumes for the same cost if they think they're so fucking superior.
It was so much fun to do this and you’re being all serious and I’m just making faces and being a general loon. Love you babes x
My favourite loon xxx
It was very fun to watch! Also you with his lordship was *chef's kiss*
You and Bernadette need to do more videos together - I thoroughly enjoyed it
@@gregmunro1137 yes I agree
You are fabulous! Very entertaining and your craft is stunning🌺
Arthur's also wearing a golden wyvern, famously the symbol of Wessex, quite ironic given his opposition to the Saxons
Even more ironic when you remember his surname is Pendragon (Welsh for "head dragon"). And he's even got his own coat-of-arms, featuring two gold dragons crowned with red standing back-to-back, which, if you ask me, looks WAY cooler.
@@robertmacnaughton4190 Small world! I myself have Scoti blood.
That one I’m a little forgiving, as Arthur’s title is “Pendragon”. Course Pendragon is actually an inherited name given to Arthur’s father Uther (by the way I just realized how saxons sounding the name Uther is), and considering Celtic Britain culture you were expected to make your own name, I’m questioning why that Epithet is even given in the first place.
@@dylantennant6594 Given how many iterations the Arthurian legend went through _that we know about_ (in some of the earliest versions, he isn't even a king), I'm guessing that was one of the earlier ones that didn't get passed all the way down - possibly the Saxons co-opting a story of Briton anti-Saxon resistance.
That's the cost of being a legend. Everyone else wants to tell your story.
Well I just learned something completely new today. That is very interesting that Arthur's title names him as the "head dragon" when it was also the symbol of the people he supposedly fought against. Then again, who else can take down a dragon, but another dragon?
Yet I do still find myself more drawn to the mythical versions of Arthur wielding a sword forged of Avalon steel, student of a powerful magician and slayer of ogres, compared to the more "realistic" version. I'd love to see a story that merges the interpretations and is still fun to watch.
The last line just about summed up why historical accuracy is important “massive pockets” for holding pigs.
18th Century - Court Suit:
“If you’re not in awe of those who rule you, are you even being ruled?”
That single statement is extremely profound.
This was so much fun! Thanks for asking me on and giving me *an entire new King Arthur impression* to put together goldurnit!!
JIMMY!!!!!
It would be so cool if you also looked at the Viking - there are some issues.
@@IXScasualty I love the way this is written. It sounds like you’re their editor. Please we need help 😂
"nothing about this is sparking joy"
Mood, Jimmy, mood
JIMMY IS THE BEST XD
Can we take a moment to appreciate Bernadette’s breathtaking watercolor and pen skills?!
Let's just take a moment to appreciate Bernadette....
She seems to be quite multidimensionally talented!🧡💛💚
"Our lives are full of vague essences of history, just waiting for creative application" is a GOOD LINE. Whew. Such a great point - purpose bought costumes designed explicitly to be worn once and trashed is so silly when you can make or thrift or scrounge together something that will look the same in terms of effectiveness and quality, but will save you some cash!
I love this too. I watch these costubers make all these beautifully historically accurate clothes and I’m like I want that! But I can’t sew to that extent and I don’t have the time or the passion for sewing itself to learn, and I can’t afford to buy them. Well maybe I could very rarely save up for one but then what to choose?! But I have found a lot of clothes in op shops (aka thrift stores/charity shops - I’m not sure if they’re ever called op shops outside of Australia?), or my Mum’s old closet, or markets and clothes swaps that are “vaguely historical” looking that can work for Halloween costumes or everyday wear, and are at least a lot lower percentage of plastic overall. It’s nice learning about the history so you can see what the modern, and newer vintage stuff was inspired by but then still doing your own thing with it. I especially like when it’s less like historical-ish clothes fed through a modern aesthetic like a lot of these Halloween costumes and movies, but more a blending of both which often leads to a bit more uniqueness.
My brother was a cowboy for Halloween on year. He wore a plaid shirt over a Henley, tucked everything into his plainest pair of jeans, and got suspenders, a cowboy hat, and a pair of boots from a thrift shop. He now uses the hat & boots when he does yard work (gardening to the folks in the UK)…. He did force the suspenders on the neighbor kid when his pants were … shall we say … falling down
I’m making a felt witches hat for Halloween myself.
Literally managed to costume myself for an 18th century set LARP by using some of my school uniform, with my white knee-socks pulled OVER my black tights to give the illusion of breeches, and charity shop menswear (give or take a hand-me-down). That LARP was one of my firsts, before I'd started hunting costume pieces down specifically, yet my existing history nerdery & some quick google image referencing meant all the difference in how confidently I'd feel in my costume. At the event they had probs for use, including hats - tricorn on head, I had a great time being a bumbling officer out of her depth trying to maintain "law&order" amidst a revolution. I think I was the sole surviving "loyalist" by the end of the night, all other royalists being politely murdered or collectively executed. I remain grateful to my goody-2-shoes school shoes for so thoroughly keeping me in-character at that LARP.
I won an online costume contest with stuff from my closet and a pair of suede pants I got at Goodwill. I did Calamity Jane - suede pants, suede boots, a gingham shirt over a black mock-turtleneck, leather belt and gloves, suede fringed coat and a fedora. I tied my hair back with a leather thong.
Honestly the 1920s costume reminded me of how historically accurate my school’s Peaky Blinders inspired version of Romeo and Juliet was. The costume designer and tech director put in SO MUCH work to make both the set and outfits look accurate. Granted, it was a high school theatre so there was only so much they could do on a limited budget lmao
Zack is very entertaining and should be in more colabs! I also like how we gently raises the ethical question of getting a one-wear outfit from a sweatshop.
He's spot on about the insane amounts of money Americans spend on cheap overseas Halloween costumes that are so disposable. when they could instead save up for or make a high end quality costume they could wear year round that would be spectacular. That being said I'm 100% guilty & hypocritical and bought a cheap "1700s" costume on Amazon to dress a plastic Halloween skeleton for a pirate party decoration.
All those costumes give me the impression of “video game character from the early 00s” in all their polygonal glory, where the colours and lines might be in a vaguely? correct? position? but there’s no concept of fabric weight or drape and the shapes are all rather limited by the crudely rendered graphics. 😂
Assassin's Creed does a rather good job with clothing. They really sink their teeth into primary sources when they're doing character design. Except for haircuts but eh, we can't have everything.
@@lolitabubbles26 Although they do take some liberties with the MC's clothing. I haven't checked this yet, but I'm 80% sure that Ezio's clothes in Brotherhood were deliberately cut to match the symbol of the Assassins'. Specifically the skirt(?) line. It's longer in the back and shorter in the front and I think the angles roughly match up. But they do a good job making it feel like it belongs in the world.
I was actually playing Brotherhood when I paused to watch this video, so it was on my mind.
I absolutely got that impression too. The photoshopped hat didn't help!
Zack's into the camera "because I'm a hot mess" took me out. The modern phrasing paired with the historical dress is incredible, love it.
"If you're not in awe of the people that are ruling over you, are you even being ruled" Wow. Just wow. How the world has changed.
Yup. Now we’re being ruled by people we despise yet continuously choose to continue ruling us.
Rule isn't govern, nor administrate. Ruling as the wmbodiment of God's will on Earth means shock and awe and no apologies and kill the haters. Literally have them killed because you can do that.
@@MercenaryMuse Does outliving everyone count as well?
@@rutgerw. Like, immortality or just "we don't live in our own filth" better health standards?
@Aracnix Both I suppose. I can think of a Monarch that has had some 14 PM’s rule under Them half of wich are dead. Clearly the filth within Their family and elsewhere doesn’t bother Them. Not very impressive clothes I would say but always very on brand just like Merkel. I am sure there is some measure by which They deserve some credit...
Re:the conclusion, I would love if you did a video on creating a "historical impression" costume using items a 21st century person might have in their closet!
This would be so good!!!
I'm not sure Bernadette is the person to do that, she doesn't have too many 21st century things in her closet to begin with. ;-)
if we are doing 2020s, they are gonna reckon all of high society marched around in their bedclothes..
@@beth12svist rachel maksy collab??? 👀👀
Please invite Zack Pinsent back to talk more! I found him absolutely delightful! "Actual Dandy" gave me a solid chuckle.
I admired the gentleman that was dressed in a historically accurate garment.
Zach Pinsent! He has a channel too, it should be in the description. He's great.
There were two. Zack and Niklas (Vintagebursche).
If you were referring to Zack (the guy in the wig with Bernadette at her place) He dresses like that everyday, he owns no modern clothes.
If referring to Niklas the German guy, he's awesome too and has some very insightful videos on his channel pertaining to his area of experience.
Zach trashing the costume with so much knowledge and eloquence was just hilarious.
I would love to see him try Ouji, or EGA and get his analysis of the historical inspiration
YES Bernadette bringing us the menswear historical survey we desperately crave 👌🏻
And never would of thought that we wanted!!!
Yes, my hunger for male sartorial content has been satiated!
Legitimately. As a man who sews, it gets REALLY frustrating to try to find anything historical that isn’t set in the entirely wrong setting. Like some viking “tunics” I’ve seen that were pirate/fake renaissance knockoffs lol…
Though I AM curious about why The Welsh Viking specified vegetable tanned leather, was brain tanning not a thing in Europe?
YESSSS
She didn't really show it, but ancient times is another thing in terms of menswear Hollywood and others keep screwing up. The Spartans' armor did NOT look like Romans, and Greek tunics were not like Roman togas either! A little historical research can make a world of difference. I love a lot of Hollywood's "Sword and Sandal" epics, but sometimes I have to chuckle or cringe at the inaccuracies.
I like that the concept of renting a costume for a one night use was brought up--much more better than investing in cheap things that will end up a land fill!
@@robertmacnaughton4190 sounds like a great place…
@@robertmacnaughton4190 That is so sad!
@@robertmacnaughton4190 Very poetically put! Also, what a cool little piece of history to hold onto!
I would love to see a companion BB video to this that illustrates how to create a "one night only" historical look using household materials or thrifted clothes, to help out those who've been convinced not to buy the terrible amazon costumes anymore.
I’m just loving watching all of these well-educated, beautifully eloquent people coming together to have these wonderfully passionate and nerdy conversations about waistcoats from hundreds of years ago.
I hope that I can find the likes of such great persons in my future.
"Historical clothes were clothes, not costumes." I had this conversation with one of the ladies in my local fabric shop when she asked if I was making a Halloween costume. (She caught me measuring myself for a cloak, because I had to calculate whether the roll had enough fabric for what I wanted to do).
I think I said something along the lines of, "When something is designed and built to be a costume, it looks like a costume, and therefore feels fake regardless of how un/familiar you are with the real thing. When something is designed to be functional clothing, it looks like functional clothing, and therefore feels real even if it's not entirely accurate in its portrayal. But if you're going to make a functional piece of clothing, you might as well make use of its functionality and, y'know, wear it."
I then explained I had already made a functional winter cloak, but it's too hot for the light chill of rainy spring or foggy autumn days. So I'm making a thinner wool cloak for the purposes of shrugging off wind and rain without trapping so much heat that I die the second the sun comes out :p
Now all you need to do is add a video or two showing of the results. :-)
As someone who wears an alt fashion that gets written off as being costumes; I very much agree with your comment.
@@EmberWing23
Zack has also received that kind of treatment from time to time, including being denied entry somewhere because they don’t allow fancy dress costume. He was wearing his usual clothes, perfectly appropriate for going out in the evening.
Wearing historical clothing is an eye opening experience. You either experience the "ok we got this part wrong because I can't move, breathe, I am going to die" or " wow this works so well why did we stop wearing this"
@@lenabreijer1311 I really depend a lot on what type of cloths you are talking about.
Much of heavy winter cloths are just that very heavy and if you do not go with the animal fur version not that good.
“I think he’s going for 18th century… from MEMORY”. I had just taken a big swig of water I nearly choked 🤣
When Niklas started dressing his mannequin... it just blows my mind that men don't just clamber to dress like that. It looks so wonderful! Shoot, *I* want a suit like that, and I'm typically a strict femme dresser. It's just so sharp and snazzy!
As a man, Sure it looks great and who doesn't look good in a suit, but i just don't find all those layers comfortable. Unless i *need* to be presentable, i'd much rather wear a t-shirt and chinos because it's way more comfortable.
Suits are crazy expensive
You could do femme suit! A nice pencil or walking skirt to femme up the look... I may need a suit too
@@KathrynsRavens I definitely want the pants. Menswear tailored for curves.
If you've ever seen the outfits Nicole Rudolph makes... 😍
I'd love to see more videos with Zack in them if possible, the banter and friendly chemistry between you two is really fun to watch, and Zack is very charming ^_^ (The clip of him petting Cesario like an evil mastermind really got me X3 )
He's a cutie. I have a guinea pig myself.
I really want her to do an episode on painting and describing what a historically accurate King Arthur and Queen Guinevere would've worn in the 6th century AD.
As someone who absolutely loves Arthurian legend, I give this a resounding yes…a year late. A resounding yes either way.
No idea because they were a work of fiction invented...like a millenia later. So we'd have to use a version of what people a few centuries ago thought kings would dress.
@@jorriffhdhtrsegg Pro tip from a historian focused on the British Isles: if you want to try to make a wildly disproven claim and be respected for it, know the difference between 'centuries' and 'millenium'.
I'd LOVE to see this become a yearly Halloween series!
Ooh yes, the real horrors of Halloween x
Yes please. Now. Right now. Please and thank you. 👍😁✌
Same here!
Definitely 👍👍
"Well, my first thought is that, uhm it actually isn't, ... the worst????"
THE SHADE
Zack slowly sinking to the same height as Bernadette 16:11 totally creased me up.
I loved getting a peek into menswear.
For both this one and last year's, I would love to see an attempt at making a better version of the costumes at a similar time and price point. Like gathering components from a thrift shop and using only very basic and quick techniques to alter them.
My fave part is where Zack Pinsent describes the authentic collection of court garments that inspired modern-day Halloween costumes. Zacks humor is great too and I think it would be nice to see more collaborations between him and Bernadette
I think lots of guys would *love* to rock the codpiece. Just remembering college parties and some of the get-ups guys wore. I think what bothers me most about these crappy costumes is what Zach pointed about about the wastefulness. You could go to a thrift store and get actual clothes that, with a couple key pieces and the right silhouette, would create these costumes and they would look phenomenal. And the best part is you can return them to the thrift store when you're done wearing it. Or discover an unknown love of dressing vintage.
I actually got Ruperts coat in a thrift store.
Codpiece. These days you just need to be playing hockey, where it's called a 'cup' and highly practical.
@@foamer443 I assume that's the same as a box for cricket? Cover it in a borrowed fur cuff pinned to a thin belt and you're done.
@@michellebyrom6551 Sounds......intriguing?
As the 'box' is tucked into a pocket in the jockstrap a belt is part of the assembly. And I have to assume the fur cuff would only cover the front? My, my!
YES
I sometimes thrift in my mom’s closet and a lot of the clothing she had before she was pregnant with me works great with my silhouette and I also think it’s a great way to be environmentally friendly and not waste perfectly good pieces of clothing, no matter how old. I kind of want to go thrifting in my dad’s closet but I’m a little scared lol, and a lot of the pieces of clothing he has would be great for aesthetic outfits (I love dark academia) or just being comfortable hehe.
And fast fashion just really “gets” to me in hundreds of ways: The design is disgustingly cheap, the dye job is either blinding and visually unappealing or just washed out and gross and carries a smell that could literally act as an anesthetic, the fabric rips in two seconds or turns to plastic twice as fast…you get it.
"Clothes not costumes" is exactly why we refer to what we wear at Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) events as garb. They are our interpretation of historical period garments that we recreate and live in while performing daily living activities. I tend to dress Viking Age Norse (I take full liberty of the word "creative" and mix elements from 800-1100) or ancient Greek.
My persona is celtic/roman but I always where yoga pants under my tunics 😅
@@paintingdragons1828 haha yes, i usually wear leggings under my roman tunic too, because i get cold pretty easily
@@beccag5488 I'm nowhere near Pensic I'm out in Caid
Bernadette, Niklas, Jimmy and Zack all in one video talking about historical men's wear what could be better? Except maybe a video of Zack walking around London with his lordship in one of his giant pockets taking the air.
I would risk covid to come over to London to see that
@@mandylavida me too.
Quite interestingly, there's an RPG called "King Arthur Pendragon", based in classic arthurian mythos. It's VERY historically accurate, except in one thing. Armour. It's an in-game mechanic that when Arthur is king, because he is the True King, England begins to develop amazing armour and weapons that didn't exist for centuries. Then once he dies, the "magic" of Arthur drains away, and people begin to revert back to maille and gambeson.
I'm a regular watcher and omg you would NOT believe my surprise to see my old friend Samantha show up here!! I always thought of her and our reenacting days whenever I watched your videos, so my eyes practically flew out of my face haha! I'm glad to know my thoughts of "man, they should totally connect sometime" were manifested. :) Loved this, as usual!! Thank you for the exciting surprise!!
In the UK generally when I was a child in the 70s we only wore "Halloween" fancy dress, that is to say, witches, mummies, ghosts, vampires etc, to see people wearing princess dresses and other such "non-Halloween" costumes in the US was very strange.
I was a kid in the 90s but it was the same for me. I feel like the trend for just dressing up in costumes that aren't "scary" is a much more contemporary US import. And honestly I really like it because I see so much more creativity from it. Last Halloween party I went to a friend was dressed as a lobster with red oven mitts as their claws and someone who was a jellyfish with an amazing umbrella contraption with fairy lights trailing off it. It wasn't an ocean themed party it's just a coincidence that those are the fun costumes I can remember 😂. I was a cat because I'm extremely lazy when it comes to costumes lol.
@@AM-kr4pv I have no issue with fancy dress, but I'd prefer Halloween to be scary. There's nothing stopping people throwing fancy dress parties at other times of the year.
@@solatiumz I'm a big baby who gets scared and grossed out super easily so this evolution of Halloween has been perfect for me 😂. I mean I love the macabre, I'm a (super lazy) goth after all, but there's no real separation of that from the horror movie type stuff here I feel.
@@solatiumz You can throw a costume party at any time too and have it be scary then. People usually only dress up once a year and it should be something they enjoy especially children. And not everyone is going to enjoy dressing up as something "scary". Its just supposed to be fun.
I was born in England in the early 60s, and I don't remember people dressing for Halloween *at all*.
This needs to be renamed "How to give Historical Enthusiasts an aneurism in one costume or less: Halloween Edition".
2:20 "Nothing on this custume sparks joy in me." But Jimmy´s presence is a joy! I just watched his video about the history of intersex people!
"I want him in mail and wool.... And leather." I shall uh get my mind out of the gutter there lol.
Also Nikolas 'Menswear Connoiseur, Not an Actual Gangster' made me chuckle. And this made me think that the time period of clothing I like best is probably the early 1900s suits Nikolas was talking about. :)
"After all, our lives are full of vague essences of history just waiting for creative application."
That is one heck of a statement, and I love it.
How fun for you filming this! Gentlemen who not only dress historically accurate but know what they're talking about. Thank you all for contributing to this video.
Love that everyone who understands how much time, skill, and money is required to make quality garments never fails to remind us of the plight of the working poor who make these fast fashion garments. So interesting hearing about the menswear side of things!
Loved seeing a male perspective from costuming / men’s clothing . Hearing from
So many different people was amazing. Loved you art work !!!
Me too, Greg!! Great gent period fashion perspects - even if Halloween costumes are the substrate - LOVE IT - they need a good makeover at any cost!!! And I will forever call dibs that BB will stand on an Oscar winning stage some day!! I hope she shouts out "Renee said it first"!!! My dream shout out : )
Thank you for doing a gentleman's costume video. I loved the female version. Each of your guest were so sweet to try and find something positive, even though they were cringing at the obvious flaws. I see the editing skills you've acquired over the years. I love your work as always
omg, the male version of Bernadette!! this was actually a really cool video, i loved the passion shown by the guy for King Arthur/medieval times, you can tell that he really cares about and has extensively researched the period! also, the "Peaky Blinders" guy who just casually has a mannequin ready to dress up 😂
i love that "Niklas, not an actual gangster" 😭😭😭
And then he had a razorblade already in his cap. *Suspicion!*
I love hearing that you got to call upon the passionate and learned of gents clothing in those eras to guide your drawings and inform us. It was both fascinating and highly entertaining. Also Mr. Pinsent snuggling his lordship was so darn cute, I can't deal!💙
"...analyzing things that probably have no business being analyzed." Your self-awareness has always been a charming feature!
Amazing. I never wanted to drop 4 grand on an awesome period costume more than when I see Zach rocking that whole look. If only there was an 18th century version of a Renaissance festival!
I love how with the Henry costume, since it was based on an actual portrait, you could do nothing but recreate the same portrait... sans codpiece. I would love to see more things like this; it's so interesting to see how the cultural perception of these time periods is so different from the reality!
Come on, we all know Nik is really a gangster. You can't hide that from us.
Rupert is the muscle.
Nik was a long haired metal musician. I believe he still does play music, though not sure if still in a band.
Unrelated but:
How he styled/created his version of the outfit is making my heart beat go brrrrr-
It’s beautiful and AHHH
Oh please please more of his lordship and Zach. They're adorable.
zach, in the best way possible, reminds me of the rich and pretentious suitor in ever period drama who eventually gets killed or punched in the jaw by the male lead.
Apt description
seriously thinking of the commander from the pirates of the caribbean
100%. Tbh the only low point of this video, shame
I disagree, he's being fun and pointing out the flaws of the industry and how you may better be suited to choose something else rather than the costume.
As a graphic designer and avid D&D narrator, I feel like I struck absolute gold with this video and I'm not even at the 5 minutes mark.
So I work in a theatrical store as a costumer, and it's blowing my mind out my butt right now to have learned that the collars on those shirts were detachable, self-contained things. I had just assumed that was what the shirts looked like. I have spent months getting frustrated that we have next to no non-modern, historical-in-any-way men's shirts, and have had to make all kinds of substitutions and allowances. Now I wonder if there is a beautiful box of collars somewhere in the building for me to work with. I can't believe I never knew or read that so many of these collars were detachable. You just mildly changed my life and saved me a lot more frustration. Bless this channel and all you amazing peoples' expertise.
As a Dr of Arthurian literature; the Arthurian costume redesign was so good!! Thank you so much for this.
This was so fascinating, but also seemed like it was really fun to film.
Loved "Rupert: World-Renowned Dress Form" 🤣🤣
I love that instead of just roasting the costumes, you guys explained what they would probably wear layer for layer! Loved the paintings too
I really appreciate how Bernadette brought in guest specialists to talk about the different eras - it was really nice to learn about different folks in the historical dress field!
14:55 I squealed. Not only collabs between Bernadette and Zach are always amazing, but Zach petting His Lordship, I can't !!
I absolutely LOVE Zack's analogy😂, when he said that I just imagined running around with a hair dryer and just heat gunning people in costumes and yelling over the noise "Has it Shrinked yet!!" 😂😂
I always LOVE seeing men who care about historical dress! We definitely need more of them in the world! Thank you for making my morning!
When she said "Literally *covered* the ladies..." I knew I had to subscribe.
This video was incredible with the addition of other historic fashion experts giving their feedback. Thank you so much!
The fashion history is awesome as always obviously, but can we take a moment to appreciate bernadette's art skills???!! As an "artist" myself, i am in awe
There's a chemistry when people are able to be in the same room, and the face at 15:48 and the lowering to precisely Bernadette's height at 16:10 were such joys.
For me it was the head bob while talking about hat proportion at 11:41
So, would King Arthur be clean-shaven because of the Roman influences? Because we established "not *that* beard," but we didn't really come back to the history of... 5th-6th century British facial hair.
I’d assume yes, the final illustration was clean shaven so that seems to be the case.
King Arthur is Welsh folklore
@@Hellothere_453 Thanks for the clarification. I'm more familiar with modern Arthuriana, so I tend to think of him as British.
Yes! We need to know!
@@Eloraurora "British" at that time period meant "Brythonic" anyway. Anglo-Saxons certainly were not calling themselves "British"
Bernadette’s reaction to the statement, “18th Century, from memory,” made me lol.
Every single time I put on a longer, tunic style top I can hear Jimmy's voice say "a nice blue tunic" with that iconic Welsh accent!
As someone who has a family of renaissance fair goers, and as someone who loves historical dress, I say with confidence that any of these costume will not do you justice. It is far better, if you don't want the actual clothing, to either find modern clothing to fit the look and feel as close as you can, or to invest in some historic clothing pieces and see what can be made with those.
I know sometimes we don't care if it's accurate or we just wanna experiment or maybe you don't have the means or money to get the exact look. However I have learned a few rules that help me with my historic clothing journey.
1. Layers. Layers are magical and are historically accurate. Our layers today are not all that different and if you apply layers to your look, you have a good start.
2. Natural cloth. That is to say linen, wool, cotton, and other cloths that are not synthetic. Even blends are better than full synthetic. Research fabrics and make sure they are breathable. Natural layers help you breath while synthetic layers suffocate you.
3. Silhouettes. I'm sure viewers of this channel understand this simple rule. Silhouettes can make or break the outfit. While untrained eyes can be fooled, those who know cannot often see past it. And while perfection is sometimes impossible, even an attempt is better than none at all.
4. Accessories and attitude. Small things go a long way and can boost an outfit. Even if you aren't going entirely historically accurate, these can move your pieces in the right direction. Hair and makeup also play a part here as we all know and can help even an imperfect outfit come across more accurate.
Finally, remember that many of us cannot afford hundreds and thousands of dollars of historically accurate outfits and costumes nor do we all have the the means or skill to sew all the time. And that's ok. Perfection is often unobtainable. It comes with time, and effort, and persistentance. And even then, mistakes happen and it's ok. Have fun with it. It's a journey. Even the best of us are still learning new things all the time. Effort will show if you give it and people will appreciate it.
I know I kinda rambled here but I just wanted to put this out and if it helps anyone else on their journey, then I will be happy. And if anyone else had anything to add or comment on, feel free. I'm still very green in historic clothing stuff and i make mistakes. But, I'm gonna have fun with it.
BP: "Now we're not out to criticize these costumes..."
First dude: Maximum flamboyant bitchiness ENGAGED!
Zack Pinsent throwing SHADE 😎 !
Calling him 'first dude' wins you squillions of laughter our loud points. I cherish your words
Have a sincerely wondeful new year!
The interesting Halloween costume challenge is to make something from sheets without much sewing (relying on broaches etc) - in a way that the sheets could still serve a function afterwards.
Its amazing what can be achieved with some knowledge of legends and judicious use of spray on hair dye and theatrical make up.
Some of my past costumes have rendered me unrecognisable to my mother (and I wasn't wearing a mask). That, to me, was always the point of Halloween costumes - to render yourself unrecognisable to friends and family.
The more shaping you can do without cutting away material, the easier it is to reuse the material for a different style later. Pleats and gathers are your friends there.
@@ragnkja indeed. Paired with careful raiding of your wardrobe leads to some very inventive costumes.
Although nothing beats a costume a friend wore as a child.
"The lady of the lamp" featuring multiple lampshades (including one worn on her head and another on a small lamp carried around). It really showed how a creative concept was the most important thing.
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I think two of my friends going as a landfill might give your friend some good competition. They used those big black rubbish bags as the base of their costume, and covered themselves with (non-smelly) trash.
@@ragnkja A kilt is basically a long pleated cloth ! (At least a "traditional" one!)
It would be so interesting to see a video about the history of costume parties, and where people in previous eras sourced their costumes from (did they come from their wardrobe? rented? made for the occasion?)
Love this! I’m always in awe of Bernadette’s drawings and it’s so cool we had guests this time! Would love to see Zack in more videos, your dynamic is 👌👌👌
The thing that really struck me with the Peaky Blinders costume in particular is how simple it would be to get something more period and less plastic at a thrift store in a lot of areas. I could find something that would do all those parts except maybe the hat with relative ease and it would probably be cheaper.
I actually bought Ruperts coat in a thrift store. Turning regular dress shirts into shirts that accept detachable collars is also totally doable. I did it several times.
I'm just so pleased that Peaky Blinders is included in this video. Heart eyes
I can’t find the words to express how much I enjoyed this. Your guests are great as always. A video is never complete without Jimmy ranting, Zak pulling faces and smuggling things in his pockets, or Rupert standing silently in the corner. And bonus cesario appearance and beautiful editing by Dani. We are spoiled. Thank you so much.
Oh, I thought it was Bernadette who did the editing ?! Is it a new thing that Dani edited this video ? I just remember Bernadette talking about editing during one video....
Who else would love to see Zach and Bernadette swap eras? Edwardian dandy and regency lady.❤️
Oh YES
Seconded!
yes!!!
Yes!
Yes!!!
Love this with all my heart. It's so fun getting to see how the historical outfits would *actually* be put together and to meet so many new Cos-tubers for the first time! Thank you Bernadette for sharing!
"Rupert: world renowned dress form"
as someone who needs captions for proper understanding, I really love your little touches
Chucks weekend plans for the next few weeks out the window. Restocks tea and biscuits. Lights various fall scented candles. Logs into skill share…. I am ready!!!!!
On a more serious note: many congratulations on the skill share course! I have toiled away many an afternoon of crafting with your videos to keep me company. I feel so inspired to make things! Not to mention the wonderful community that you have somehow cultivated! Sending hugs to Cesario 🥰
Having Zach in the same room as you was just so good, I could listen to him for hours anyway but in combination with you there's just so much skill and knowledge combined on one sewing table. The others were also really, really great. I just squealed at seeing Zach as a guest, that's all. :D (His "ugh, no" judgement on the 18th century costume was such a MOOD, I felt that)
Don’t we all need some “fur business”?
Actually, no. Real fur is way too hot for where I am, and faux fur is the WORST to work with! Never again! It’s worse than velvet. But Fur Business does sound awesome.
Also, that beatific smile when Zack spoke of the awfulness of fast fashion. I felt that deeply.
My sister did a tailoring course once, when she have to work with fur. I can hear her say, "I swear I'm going to tear down the fur industry myself just so I don't have to work with it" every 5 second
"Fur Business" sounds like something Lord Cesario would have to attend to.
Where I live it starting to be nice to have some extra protection around your face and hand. I have found that if you vacuum the cut at once, most of the problems "go away".
For even better result you can add a seam along the edge.
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He does, though it’s usually called “grooming himself”.
I so appreciate the guest interviews. You're a great collaborator.
I love this kind of videos of yours so much 😍 also, as a German, hearing the gentleman in the intro with that charming German accent got me even more intrigued 🙈😍😂