2024 Bathurst 1000 Lead changes ❌️ Door to door racing ❌️ On track overtaking ❌️ Close finish ❌️ 300km/h speeds down ConRod straight ❌️ Slower lap times than Super2 ✅
Welcome to modern car racing. Without some major driver error or pit stop errors in close racing it’s all pretty predictable. Let’s seen how 2025 goes hey…
Being born in 1960, I grew up watching (I think) the best racing at Bathurst, I would watch it religiously.....I actually forgot it was on this weekend. I didn't miss much.
It’s lost a lot hasn’t it. I was born 1980 loved watching with my dad, the rivalries and the endurance now it’s boring. It needs a big shake up, not sure it can ever really get back to something good.
i hope supercars rethinks these gen 3 cars. the greatest era of v8 supercars was during the early to mid 2000s. the cars had less mechanical grip, seemed looser & more unstable, required a lot more work to steer around plus finesse on power down, the added complexity of a h-pattern gearbox allowed for more frequent mistakes, plus the engines had a meaner sound, all these things made just watching the cars go around a spectacle, let alone the drama created by having these more “dynamic” to drive cars.
i am all for safety improvements, a lot of that is coming from updates to the track barriers, concrete runoff areas etc, and the structural engineering of the cars themselves, but im sure these don’t need to be compromised to go back to cars that drive somewhat similar to what they used to in the past. and yeah it was funny to hear niel and skaifey start yelling with excitement of the most mundane events, usually it works, this time it felt too artificial.
The greatest era was the late 2000s to early 2010s when you had winterbottom Davison lowness whincup young van gisbergen and then the holden racing team drivers, rick Kelly James Courtney garth tender and a rookie Scott mclaughlun Quality of drivers was better since there was about 7-8 champions on the grid at the time
@@tonyhewitt1125 If you like Camaros so much, and Chevy's that great, go out and buy one mate....oops, that's right....they don't make it anymore, just like Holdens. At least Ford races what it sells. Hey, soon they will be entering a Corvette, or a Silverado, hahaha !!
Honestly you could show the start with the run upto turn 1 then payne hitting the wall at the cutting and then brodie crossing the line the end. You would not have missed a thing. Absolute disgrace of an event the last 2 years.
I watched this because my back was playing up and needed to lie down. Ended up dozing off and missed the end. Turns out I didn't miss a damn thing. Finished exactly as I left it with 1.5 hours to go. Haven't missed a race in 50yrs. Wish I missed this borefest.
This was a soulless parade. Kind of what you would expect if AI Teslas decided to race at Bathurst. Gone are the days of cars with character and drivers with big personalities battling it out with distinctly different cars and enough variables to express themselves. This is Robot wars.
@@cyz44 Yeah I agree seeing cars finishing multiple laps down thanks to pace deficit was pretty exciting! Remember the time Brock finished 6 laps ahead? What great racing.
@@Reiver-93 There are race replays of a lot of the older ones. You're unlikely to have the time, but if you do, watch something from 2016 or earlier (and definitely check out stuff from 1992 or earlier if you're up for low video quality lol). Australian touring car racing used to be the gold standard and the 1000 used to be emblematic of that.
the last two years have been rough, last year because they were all driving at 30% so the tyres didn’t degrade, and this year was just a rough watch, expected an incident filled race given how practice was filled with carnage and we got the opposite. Says to me that maybe we could cut one or 2 practice sessions at this weekend. Everyone had their cars figured out by race day.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859agree im glad im not the only one who thought 00s and 10s were better than this race, no safety car, 1s difference on lead and nothing really good to make me get out of my seat
What happened to the timing chain failures about 1 o’clock? And the brake fade? And the different brands…Nissan and Ford sierra and BMW. This I has no soul !,
@@Nizzino_40mate, if you can't overtake, there's no real racing over 1000miles, no door to door or braking zone overtakes then reliability is all you've got to add excitement...
@@hamonryechinaski180 it’s 1000 kilometres but I know what you mean, but the thing is there were overtakes, there were great battles and there was real racing, I just don’t understand why people don’t watch other categories that go to Bathurst (like IPRA 2017), or other ATCC/Supercar races
I’ve watched every Bathurst since I was 6 years old. I never ever missed a start, I never left the tv all day. It was riveting for decades. I was engaged and had a real connection to the cars, the brands and the whole industry. I’ve owned a John Goss special coupe, falcon GT’s, Holden monaros and Gemini coupes. I love cars. It Saddens me to say that for the last several years my interest is barely there. This year for whatever reason I forgot it was in today. Watching this high lite reel I thought there must be something else surely? What has happened ato this race and this whole series? We need a Kerry Packer type cricket movement and start again. Use real cars, ones you can buy. Bring back life into this now clinical race. What on earth had happened. I like progress, I love cars, old new and even electric. I’m no dinosaur, embrace change and new things but wow, this isn’t good sorry. Very sad.
they should move from V8 to inline 6 or allow other engines so more brands can join, let alone Chevrolet vs Ford we need new brands, new cars and a whole competition will start, also they sshould allow foreigner drivers to join even if they are not paired in the first enduro so we can have more attention and other drivers like scott and shane could join, even europeans could join for one.race after all it wont change anything in the championship
even Skaife and Crompton sounded bored at some stages in the race even said they needed a safety car to spice thing up that's saying something, issue was everyone on the grid drove to good where little mistakes happened and etc but props for matt payne to wreck his own race to give everyone what they wanted and spiced things up for a while 😅
i like the bodykits and the setup of the cars, seems like they have way more chassis than power though, could use a 100bhp bump to make it more interesting
That's a more sane perspective on the day compared to everyone else. There was definitely action on the mountain during the weekend...! It just didn't happen in *the* race that counted. Everyone was practically glued to the track and didn't put a foot wrong. Good for the drivers... Less so for the viewers, sadly.
Mark Baretta asking Cam Waters wether starts in sprint cars give him an advantage 🙄🙄🙄. Cam was polite. Channel 7 may as well as got the cash cow to do the interviews.
I used to watch the series religiously and thought Nascar ovals and Indy 500 were boring. But since the two best drivers left and I gave American racing a chance, and there is honestly way more going on in a standard oval race than in this years Bathurst 1000!
Indy and Nascar is more funny, sometimes is a bother fest too, i saw a race were a slighly thing caused a yellow flag because it was so boring 😂😂😂 Nascar had its better years too, Bathrust also had borefest races too, however this is one of the most boring races i ever seen, no drama, no action and not many action on track like cars following closely to fight
Young Cooper Murray is a star in the making pity about the drive through late in the race he made a lot of the other co drivers look 2nd rate and a few of the main game drivers too
I know the commentators have to hype things up but Larko getting a semi over Brodie’s throttle trace was pure cringe. When data is supposedly more interesting than the race you know the series is cooked.
Lol, I said to my brother-in-law that the start would be exciting… then it would all be a snoozefest. Then the final 5 laps will be exciting that’s it. Also the hard tires were not the right choice for the weekend. Too slow. Super 2 was faster. That’s embarrassing.
2017 was the last proper year. Go back to using VF and FG X shells, and just use fibreglass for all the parts like they do now. Then get minimum 30 of them onto the grid, would be far more entertaining.
Eh. Aussie touring cars died about when the scene split into two Bathurst 1000s in 1997, and was likely mortally wounded when Group A died and nothing fit for purpose replaced it. It just became obvious how deep the rot went when the Volvos, Mercs, and Nissans went away. Without Holden v. Ford, Supercars has no point, and thus no appeal. That's not proof they need to "bring back Holden", but it's definitive proof that this entire series - from the origins of Group 3A through the turn of the millennium to modernity - was built on extremely shoddy foundations that are beginning to make their presence VERY clear.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 I don't think its that complex of an issue at all, and saying it died in 1997 is crazy given that the 20 years that followed are seen by most as the peak of Aussie touring car racing. Yeh it was nicer when the cars were actual Australian cars but the main issue with the racing now is that the cars have more grip then they did 10 years ago and the it has made the racing very predicable.
@@jimmypownall4409 You're absolutely correct: those few decades of Ford v. Holden worked out _very_ well for Supercars. But I stand by my take for one reason: the lack of field variety in Supercars - which was the case from '97 right up to 2014, when Ford and Holden were the only ones present - meant it only took the death of one brand to almost turn Supercars into a completely spec series or kill it entirely. Pandering solely to tribal warfare came at a huge cost: armor. V8 Supercars from 1997 to 2019 was a bit like the "Roaring 1920's" in the US: a false utopia whose shoddy foundations bore _severe_ consequences later.
When are they going to get rid of those lame pit crew 'reaction' shots? Cutting away from the racing and showing a bunch of people in the pit area, who are just staring at a monitor is NOT entertaining, it's mind numbingly boring and is totally unnecessary.
Toyota is coming back, would LOVE to see Nissan, Mercedes and Volvo again as well! That was the best modern era of V8 Supercars and by far the most entertaining
This is the 1st time in 10yrs that I haven't watched the whole race Live (I cancelled my Subscription after Shane left). However, according to the Comments, it was a very boring race - lots of fans feeling disappointed/ducking out early etc. That's such a crying shame, this race used to be the Highlight of my MotorSport Calendar! Regardless, I'm so happy about Brodie Kostecki getting his 1st Bathurst Win - it's still an amazing achievement for any Racing Driver to have on their CV! Talking of that, Todd Hazelwood is the Luckiest Supercars Driver EVER! Sure, he did a good job in this race - it had to happen sometime, yeah?! Back to Brodie, *hopefully NOW The Erebus Team (Betty Klimenko & Barry Ryan) will stfu, dry their eyes & just let him get on with his job!* Kindest regards from Scotland, Peter x.
This just shows why the 12 hour is better. I wouldn’t be surprised if Supercars do what DTM did, switching to GT3 class. I wouldn’t be unhappy with it either.
I dont know how many times it needs to be stated to people like yourself but ill say it again. GT3’s downfall is how much they cost to fix, the body work is 10x the expense of the current Supercars bodywork. That and importation costs +the actual car and spare parts is 3 Supercars fully built. Doesn’t stack up financially.
@@Preso_ Are you sure. They were saying each V8 costs close to $500K. Surely GT3 cars can't be much more expensive and they definitely have more interesting racing.
@@tonyw4863 GT3’s are about $1.2-$1-5 Million, thats with a spare engine and other parts that you’ll replace over the weekend. Problem being that they replace them constantly and cant repair them, like the floor of the car and diffuser, they have them slammed to the ground to generate downforce but the downside is they’re getting destroyed every race, so they have to replace it more often. Supercars body work gets torn up a bit but they’re more often than not able to repair it and re apply vinyl to make it look brand new. GT3 Bodywork you cant do that with. Current Supercars are as you said around 500k and engine maintenance costs for the year are around $250k. I’ll go back to what Roland Dane said; “If Supercars did GT3, most teams would be bankrupt by Round 6.”
@@Preso_ "the body work is 10x the expense of the current Supercars bodywork" Given both bodyworks are now made of Carbon-Fibre, I don't see how such a large price difference is possible. Front bumpers went up from $2k fibreglass items under COTF to $10k carbon-fibre items on Gen 3 according to Brad Jones! Re: importation costs, perhaps Multimatic could come to a licensing agreement with Tickford and DJR to allow some parts of the GT3 Mustang to be made locally for local use? There's no reason the series would need to follow full-on GT3 single origin rules. While 888 could homologate and build their GT3 Camaro for the world market (far more sales than just a few units to Team 18 & Premiair racing!).
yes, it was an incredibly boring race, but every series has boring races. Although its a shame how boring it was, one boring race doesn't mean Supercars is 'dead'. I hate some changes that have been made and I can agree with the arguments against them, but people are acting like one boring race is the end of the world. I'm sure next year will be a great race and despite the changes not being perfect for me, I'm still going to enjoy Supercars because I love car racing.
I wish they'd be able to attract more manufacturers into the AU v8 supercars series. It always felt better when there were at least 3 in it. I could definitely imagine like a lexus rcf v8 supercar or a BMW m5 v8 supercar. It's also sad there arent any AU manufactuerers in it anymore.
they must allow other engines instead of v8 see other series they run boxers and inline engines too this is the only series who are stubborn to change a V8 engine since 00s, if they allow other engines, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, VW, Nissan, Toyota, Honda and so on would join, no need to change the framework just the engine and get rid off lock drivers for enduros so they can attract more foreigners into the race and more competitive aspect
When the drivers are racing so good, it's boring. I'm sitting here as an American wanting to share this with the NASCRAP fans saying "why can't you race like this?" but it wasn't a typical Bathurst race. Little drama, clean racing, but still an incredible race to watch. Yeah might have been boring but for only 1 driver really making a race stopping mistake the entire race, that's incredible. More so when you consider how narrow this track is and the speeds they are going. Credit where it's due! Although I do miss the days of watching Ford Falcons vs Mustangs.
The commentators dud some pretty heavy lifting trying to keep this entertaining and an audience engaged. I only wish I had the same level of enthusiasm as the reporter who hung out on the pits looking at the telemetry data...... "Look at that green bar on the graph, compared to the last lap". (Screams at TV) ..... "No-one cares, show us some actual drama!"
This race is no longer Australian.. it's 2 brands of American cars . How boring.. not an Australian car in sight.. what a sell out... the great. Days of Bathurst are over when every brand competed for the glory and prize.. falcon , Monaro, supra, exa, Nissan gtr, toranas.. jaguar, mini, Volvo, the greatest car race ever.. now it's just boring. .. it should be a global race.. not just an American one.. y'all lost the plot and sold us down the river...
Pretty sure the public are the reason no Australian cars race in this series. Thankfully, American cars showed up to give you all motorsport to watch live still because Holden sales tanked from 2000 to 2022 and the Falcon wasn't selling either but Mustang will always exist as per Ford Motor Company and the Camaro will probably be replaced with the Cadillac soon enough since y'all over there can't buy Holdens but can afford Caddys...
Been in the UK watching the BTCC - great to see a variety of current makes and very exciting. When will Supercars learn and get rid of these dinosaurs.
TCR is struggling in Australia though. Whereas Britain can support both BTCC and British TCR with decent grids (plus Minis, Clios, Fiesta Cup, Civic Cup etc) as those are the kinds of cars that Brits like. I dunno. It's true that out on the roads in Australia, the Ford Mustang is a rare car while the Chevrolet Camaro basically doesn't exist.
once they change the engine rule we can have more cars, V8 engines are expensive thats why mercedes and Nissan left, i mean having a camaro and a mustang is okay we had them in.the 80s problem is not allowing other engines to race
Failed to put Fraser’s off-road excursion at the top of the mountain when he was trying to make up time lost from the failure of their refuelling system! After he left the pits, he had got up to fifth place. Then had to go back in for fuel after only a handful of laps! Sack your editor! 🤦♂️
I have tried to get into watching supercars because the highlights (primarily of the old gen cars) seemed really fun. But the races now are all pretty boring. I have watched the last few races of last year and said, ill stick to the highlights. Now i wonder, are all the races boring now?
Agree. I loved it in the 90s and 00s as a kid. Even up to the late 10s was decent. But if Bathurst is this boring, I can't sit down to watch the other races.
I think maybe it might be a good idea to introduce more cars combine Supercars super2 and super 3 get a 40+ car grid make it a spectacle sometimes adding that traffic and the main drivers getting through that can add some spice to the race. Just my two cents.
@@fcukugimmeausername lol very true might give the main guys are kick in the pants. Something has to change with the Bathurst 1000 you just can’t have races like this and expect people to keep watching
@@raffaeled8091 The thing is, Bathurst is a real opportunity for V8SC's to showcase why the sport is entertaining. I no longer watch V8SC's as I have come to expect the racing to be boring, I thought I'd give Bathurst a fair go though... it's nothing like that it was even 10 years ago.
From the absolute mind numbing commentary from Crompton and Skaife to the lack luster pit reporting and finally the race itself which could make the hardest of crims cry of boredom. Bathurst in my opinion has long lost it's shine and excitement of years gone by.
Sure, but it's not like F1 where they play a radio message after it's happened and the commentators get a warning that it's happening. The radios aren't even played on air consistently and the commentators can hear them all the time if they want to.
@aaroncopson6711 - I totally get you. It's because they will post a separate YT Video, solely about the Team Radio Chat. They do it after every race - it brings in more YT Revenue for them. Sad but (unfortunately) true.
I'd have thought it's more of a censorship issue. I heard the term, "giving the guy a character reference".....used as cover for some frustrated drivers comments
@@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater I'm sure you can understand this......if a frustrated driver starts swearing over the radio to his engineer chief about the cars performance or the driver in front holding him up, or whatever... it probably isn't a good look for a TV network having that conversation going out live on air. The reason for having commentators talking over this chatter sometimes could easily be an excuse for "semi-censoring" this vocal exchange.....as an example I gave you the scenario I heard today, while watching the race.
50 years ago, the Longest Great race ever. 40 years ago, the Best Great Race Ever. 30 years ago, the Greatest Race Ever. This year, the worst Great Race Ever.
The simple answer is GT3 is faster, GT4 is slower. Here's a longer answer if you're inclined to read it: Around Bathurst the GT3 cars are about 3 secs faster than a Supercar per lap at full tilt. GT3 has more aero so they are slightly slower on the straights, but quite a bit faster from Griffins to the elbow. That's as they run at the 12 Hour anyway. GT3 has mandated BoP (Balance of Performance) so the various cars are handicapped in various ways (usually with weight and/or engine power restrictors) to keep the racing fair and interesting. There has been a couple of runs around Bathurst with unrestricted GT3 cars, both those laps were sub 2 minutes, so a GT3 car fully unleashed is quite a bit faster than a Gen3 Supercar. Also, Mount Panorama is an FIA Grade 3 track, which means cars cannot have a power to weight ratio of less than 2kg per hp, and the top speed is limited to 300kmh so the cars are geared so as not to exceed this. On a Grade 2 or Grade 1 track without these restrictions (Spa or Nurburgring for example) the speed difference would undoubtedly be greater. GT4 cars are slower. I can't find any stats with a quick search but having been to the 12 Hour many times from memory I believe the GT4 cars run around 2:12 - 2:15 lap times, so about 6 or 7 seconds slower than a Supercar. During the 12 Hour the GT3 cars begin lapping the GT4 cars after about a dozen or so laps, the speed difference is quite a bit. Cheers
2 horse race, boring to watch. Seen 2 minutes of the whole race and went outside counting grass blades in the garden which was more exciting. Bring back the old days. More car brands would make it a real race.
Bathurst 1000 needs to combine Super Cars and Dunlop Series together. That way we get 40 cars on the grid which will open up way more depth like it use to be with strategy such as when leaders catch-up to lapped cars (pit early, or battle through traffic), significantly more passing / action on the track and a good learning experience for the Dunlop drivers.
For me it was full night race and it was hard to watch. It lacked any spark of adrenaline, that keeps you going. I had to bail out after 40 laps. Nice highligts, thanks
The craziest part of this video is how many people in the comments are essentially willingly admitting that they'd rather see safety cars and bloodshed and doorbashing than clean hard racing. "Oh no what a snoozefest I didn't see anyone die from a 4 car pileup. They've really fallen off" 🙄
I don’t think it’s about seeing horrible accidents or people getting hurt I think the cars are way to close in performance and so reliable these days that 1000km without any real unpredictable outcomes can get monotonous in all honesty the Bathurst 1000 needs a shake up I mean even the commentators were kinda begging for a safety car if you hear them lol
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 It's not just the cars, it's the drivers and the teams. Everyone speaks the same, they're all PR trained. It's so sterile now.
It was a good race I thought, there were plenty of driver errors, if people want crashing, bunches of cautions, or safety cars, go watch NASCAR where driving standards are lower and they pretty much encourage drivers wrecking each other and being idiots...this was a pure motor race.
I hope these changes you're making lately (Toyota, "Drivers Only" podcasts etc which are all great) allow you to hang on to your dwindling fanbase long enough for you to fix your car regulations. Cause if you don't, it'll all be a waste of energy. This has quickly become one of the least entertaining forms of motorsport anywhere on the planet. SVG was spot on. The cars are crap.
This should be renamed the Camaro racing series. Everything is stacked in favour of Camaros. Why Ford parttake in this farce is beyond comprehension. They would be better off off starting a Mustang-only series like in the US which is very successful and produces better racing than this highly Camaro/GM-biased series with rules and governing body favouring the GM cars. Hollow victories every single one of them.
Yet WAY BACK WHEN the Mustang spanked the beloved Holden Commodore for just 2 seasons/Bathursts, Roland Dane of triple 888 racing wanted he claimed, the brands to have parity, or viewership would drop significantly, hurting ALL the teams. He got every thing needed to get GM back on top. Funny thing is, I've heard no such things after Ford going to Bathurst 5 years in a row empty handed, after saving the series !!
put a manual h pattern gearbox and smaller tyres on them , put some exitement back into bathurst.. these are great race cars ,,,,,, but when you put youre beer down and its more satisfying to mow the lawn????? WTF
To be fair, the tyres are still the same size as on the VN Group A SS (280mm wide by 680mm diameter, 18" instead of 17" now, but still very narrow for a 600hp car -- a road going Mustang has 305mm rears nowadays). A H-pattern shifter for the XTrac box would be lovely though!
the gearbox is.not.the problem, personally is engines and lock of drivers, imagine having ex f1 drivers or other wec drivers running on bathrust, same with engines V8 are expensive, they must allow L engines, Boxers and so on to make other manufacturers join, thats why we dont have more cars, regulations can benefit one or other engine as well as other cars, same with layouts i see more entertainment to watch Porsche carrera cup or f1 than this series nowdays
As an American, I'd love to see these cars run at Charlotte Roval and the streets of Detroit. Maybe St Pete, Fl. Also, as an American, I'd love to come back to Aussie land and attend these races.
Editor is the real winner today, managed to extract 18 minutes out of a race with about 1 minute of actual highlights
2024 Bathurst 1000
Lead changes ❌️
Door to door racing ❌️
On track overtaking ❌️
Close finish ❌️
300km/h speeds down ConRod straight ❌️
Slower lap times than Super2 ✅
Copypasta goes hard
300kph speeds down conrod? Why would that be a thing? It's only happened one year.
Well the finish was semi close like 1 second is semi close
Australian cars ❌
@@bremCZ The sleep thapists (sorry commentry team) frequently referred to 300 km/h speeds down conrod......
'One of the greatest challenges in motorsport!' More of a greater challenge for the editors to make an extended highlights
Don’t know how the editor managed to get 18 minutes of highlights of this absolute snoozefest.
Genuinely impressive to find 18 minutes of anything worth considering a 'highlight' from today's effort
Start, everyone's pit stops, Payne, Finish. That'd be about 18 minutes.
Welcome to modern car racing. Without some major driver error or pit stop errors in close racing it’s all pretty predictable. Let’s seen how 2025 goes hey…
@@justanotherguy535 ....be the same brother🤷♀
Barley had enough for the 3 minute highlights
WOW i was glued to the telly, once i turned the channel to watch home improvement as they had this mint white wall color drying.
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I couldn't sleep, so I put this video on. THANK YOU V8 SUPERCARS for curing my insomnia!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Being born in 1960, I grew up watching (I think) the best racing at Bathurst, I would watch it religiously.....I actually forgot it was on this weekend. I didn't miss much.
You missed NOTHING!!
Yep. Ditto
I used to watch it every year without fail, now f**k it i can,t be bothered 🥱🥱
It’s lost a lot hasn’t it. I was born 1980 loved watching with my dad, the rivalries and the endurance now it’s boring. It needs a big shake up, not sure it can ever really get back to something good.
2024 Bathurst 1000 is so BAD! 👎
Who would've thought Stanaway's attempted on LAP 1 was the closest to a lead change for the whole thing!!!
And that was ONLY ever good thing on 2024 Bathurst 1000. Nothing going on ever since. 0/10 race! 👎
i hope supercars rethinks these gen 3 cars. the greatest era of v8 supercars was during the early to mid 2000s. the cars had less mechanical grip, seemed looser & more unstable, required a lot more work to steer around plus finesse on power down, the added complexity of a h-pattern gearbox allowed for more frequent mistakes, plus the engines had a meaner sound, all these things made just watching the cars go around a spectacle, let alone the drama created by having these more “dynamic” to drive cars.
That sounds DANGEROUS and FUN, not happening mate.
Supercar ate happy with its investment into the camero
i am all for safety improvements, a lot of that is coming from updates to the track barriers, concrete runoff areas etc, and the structural engineering of the cars themselves, but im sure these don’t need to be compromised to go back to cars that drive somewhat similar to what they used to in the past. and yeah it was funny to hear niel and skaifey start yelling with excitement of the most mundane events, usually it works, this time it felt too artificial.
The greatest era was the late 2000s to early 2010s when you had winterbottom Davison lowness whincup young van gisbergen and then the holden racing team drivers, rick Kelly James Courtney garth tender and a rookie Scott mclaughlun
Quality of drivers was better since there was about 7-8 champions on the grid at the time
One thing is that tire tech has changed significantly over these years. Sliding is no longer fast.
The snake on the track delaying practice was probably more entertaining than the whole race.
The snake isn't in the race? Well, I'm not watching then.
One of the most mind numbing Bathurts in recent times
😂. Not if you follow the Bowtie.
@@tonyhewitt1125 They are not Chevys. Wake up to yourself.
@@Ozcrazy49 hahahahaha, sounds like we have another Brumby loser. 😂
@@Ozcrazy49 looks like a Brumby follower is upset again.
@@tonyhewitt1125 If you like Camaros so much, and Chevy's that great, go out and buy one mate....oops, that's right....they don't make it anymore, just like Holdens. At least Ford races what it sells. Hey, soon they will be entering a Corvette, or a Silverado, hahaha !!
Honestly you could show the start with the run upto turn 1 then payne hitting the wall at the cutting and then brodie crossing the line the end. You would not have missed a thing. Absolute disgrace of an event the last 2 years.
Don't forget the drive through penalty
Should have also included the Plane hitting the wall for the Trophy Handover.
yes, that was a nice "touch" to the event
I wonder if Payne was asked to hit the wall to spice up the coverage.
😂
MY GOD WAS THAT BATHURST,YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME
I watched this because my back was playing up and needed to lie down. Ended up dozing off and missed the end. Turns out I didn't miss a damn thing. Finished exactly as I left it with 1.5 hours to go. Haven't missed a race in 50yrs. Wish I missed this borefest.
dad?
This was a soulless parade. Kind of what you would expect if AI Teslas decided to race at Bathurst. Gone are the days of cars with character and drivers with big personalities battling it out with distinctly different cars and enough variables to express themselves. This is Robot wars.
well said
group A in the 80s and 90s was the best aussie racing in my opinion
Ai Tesla's would of been more fun
Spot on
@@cyz44 Yeah I agree seeing cars finishing multiple laps down thanks to pace deficit was pretty exciting! Remember the time Brock finished 6 laps ahead? What great racing.
So the overwhelming consensus is that this race sucked.
This year, yes
This was the first Bathurst 1000 i've ever watched and what i'm getting is this was an exceptionally dull one.
@@Reiver-93 There are race replays of a lot of the older ones. You're unlikely to have the time, but if you do, watch something from 2016 or earlier (and definitely check out stuff from 1992 or earlier if you're up for low video quality lol). Australian touring car racing used to be the gold standard and the 1000 used to be emblematic of that.
the last two years have been rough, last year because they were all driving at 30% so the tyres didn’t degrade, and this year was just a rough watch, expected an incident filled race given how practice was filled with carnage and we got the opposite. Says to me that maybe we could cut one or 2 practice sessions at this weekend. Everyone had their cars figured out by race day.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859agree im glad im not the only one who thought 00s and 10s were better than this race, no safety car, 1s difference on lead and nothing really good to make me get out of my seat
What happened to the timing chain failures about 1 o’clock?
And the brake fade?
And the different brands…Nissan and Ford sierra and BMW.
This I has no soul !,
@@paulminiter2893 mate we need these cars to be reliable not break down every 2 seconds
@@Nizzino_40mate, if you can't overtake, there's no real racing over 1000miles, no door to door or braking zone overtakes then reliability is all you've got to add excitement...
@@hamonryechinaski180 it’s 1000 kilometres but I know what you mean, but the thing is there were overtakes, there were great battles and there was real racing, I just don’t understand why people don’t watch other categories that go to Bathurst (like IPRA 2017), or other ATCC/Supercar races
I’ve watched every Bathurst since I was 6 years old. I never ever missed a start, I never left the tv all day. It was riveting for decades. I was engaged and had a real connection to the cars, the brands and the whole industry. I’ve owned a John Goss special coupe, falcon GT’s, Holden monaros and Gemini coupes. I love cars. It Saddens me to say that for the last several years my interest is barely there. This year for whatever reason I forgot it was in today. Watching this high lite reel I thought there must be something else surely? What has happened ato this race and this whole series? We need a Kerry Packer type cricket movement and start again. Use real cars, ones you can buy. Bring back life into this now clinical race. What on earth had happened. I like progress, I love cars, old new and even electric. I’m no dinosaur, embrace change and new things but wow, this isn’t good sorry. Very sad.
Nah, I reckon Payne nodded off due to boredom...like I did, several times
Bathurst 6 Hour, mate. 'ts closer to the spirit of the 1000 than V8SC is, and the elapsed time is similar to one of these.
they should move from V8 to inline 6 or allow other engines so more brands can join, let alone Chevrolet vs Ford we need new brands, new cars and a whole competition will start, also they sshould allow foreigner drivers to join even if they are not paired in the first enduro so we can have more attention and other drivers like scott and shane could join, even europeans could join for one.race after all it wont change anything in the championship
even Skaife and Crompton sounded bored at some stages in the race even said they needed a safety car to spice thing up that's saying something, issue was everyone on the grid drove to good where little mistakes happened and etc but props for matt payne to wreck his own race to give everyone what they wanted and spiced things up for a while 😅
Both would talk under 6 feet of wet cement usually. Think they went to sleep as well
@@MrRhino10 😂😂😂
The shootouts from Saturday were more exciting than the actual race. :\
I'm loving the Chiko livery....reminds me of the Alan Grice Chickadee livery of 1986
i like the bodykits and the setup of the cars, seems like they have way more chassis than power though, could use a 100bhp bump to make it more interesting
With the amount of carnage during the week I was expecting more chaos during the race only 1 dnf is insane.
That's a more sane perspective on the day compared to everyone else.
There was definitely action on the mountain during the weekend...! It just didn't happen in *the* race that counted.
Everyone was practically glued to the track and didn't put a foot wrong. Good for the drivers... Less so for the viewers, sadly.
Yer talk about an anti climax 😢
Those are opportunities for teams to address mistakes and weed out bad performance or mechanical woes= less drama race day
Yeah sucks that drivers and cars performed well, can't stand it
Who would have thought watching the Americas Cup yacht racing would be more exciting than Bathurst!
The irony as most of the sailors are Aussie and Kiwi's. And here all the cars are american cars in Australia's great race. lol
😂😂😂😂
I love this place. I love this race but supercars really needs to have a re think about gen 3
Mark Baretta asking Cam Waters wether starts in sprint cars give him an advantage 🙄🙄🙄. Cam was polite. Channel 7 may as well as got the cash cow to do the interviews.
😂😂😂
I used to watch the series religiously and thought Nascar ovals and Indy 500 were boring.
But since the two best drivers left and I gave American racing a chance, and there is honestly way more going on in a standard oval race than in this years Bathurst 1000!
The cure to ovalphobia is watching our crown jewels.
Indy and Nascar is more funny, sometimes is a bother fest too, i saw a race were a slighly thing caused a yellow flag because it was so boring 😂😂😂 Nascar had its better years too, Bathrust also had borefest races too, however this is one of the most boring races i ever seen, no drama, no action and not many action on track like cars following closely to fight
Congrats to Kostecki! What a drive!
Is hard to say what was worse. Channel 7's coverage or the race itself.
Thank God for Fox. No ads at all. But maybe the ads would have been more interesting.
@@Ozcrazy49 to be honest they were, was my girlfriends first bathurst and despite it being bathurst and all.. it was a snoozefest for the most part
Ranking the Bathurst races for 2024.
3. Bathurst 1000.
2. Bathurst 12 Hours.
1. Bathurst 6 Hour.
being a Chahda width away from an episode of Air Crash Investigations was about the only heart stopping moment all race...
How on earth did you lot manage to get this video to 18 minutes
I even fast forwarded the highlights cause they were boring :(
I was there in person for the whole race and I gotta be completely honest, this was the most boring Supercars race I’ve ever watched.
Weather looked nice for a nap tho😂
Casual fan then
What Kostecki and Feeney trading fastest lap times while pushing their cars to 110% at a race track where a slight error puts u out,
did you see the snake , and the kangaroo ...
Why were you the only wokie there with a rainbow coloured hat.
This highlights package deserves an Oscar nomination for best drama of 2024
SVG saw the writing on the wall.
Young Cooper Murray is a star in the making pity about the drive through late in the race he made a lot of the other co drivers look 2nd rate and a few of the main game drivers too
One of the greatest challenges in Motorsport undoubtedly: AVOID THE BORINGNESS.
Tod Hazelwood and Chiko have had a dream day at the mountain.
Glad I gave it a miss if this was the highlights. I think I witnessed the start of a sad demise of a once great race.
18 minutes of action, BS. was a literal snoozefest.
I know the commentators have to hype things up but Larko getting a semi over Brodie’s throttle trace was pure cringe. When data is supposedly more interesting than the race you know the series is cooked.
Lol, I said to my brother-in-law that the start would be exciting… then it would all be a snoozefest. Then the final 5 laps will be exciting that’s it. Also the hard tires were not the right choice for the weekend. Too slow. Super 2 was faster. That’s embarrassing.
Super 2s were running 1.5 seconds quicker in Qualley then the shoot out
Rip Supercars. Time of death, when the commodores and falcons went away.
It’s never been the same without them two models.
It was awesome when commodore, falcon, s60, Altima and e class were in it.
2017 was the last proper year. Go back to using VF and FG X shells, and just use fibreglass for all the parts like they do now. Then get minimum 30 of them onto the grid, would be far more entertaining.
Eh. Aussie touring cars died about when the scene split into two Bathurst 1000s in 1997, and was likely mortally wounded when Group A died and nothing fit for purpose replaced it. It just became obvious how deep the rot went when the Volvos, Mercs, and Nissans went away.
Without Holden v. Ford, Supercars has no point, and thus no appeal. That's not proof they need to "bring back Holden", but it's definitive proof that this entire series - from the origins of Group 3A through the turn of the millennium to modernity - was built on extremely shoddy foundations that are beginning to make their presence VERY clear.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 I don't think its that complex of an issue at all, and saying it died in 1997 is crazy given that the 20 years that followed are seen by most as the peak of Aussie touring car racing. Yeh it was nicer when the cars were actual Australian cars but the main issue with the racing now is that the cars have more grip then they did 10 years ago and the it has made the racing very predicable.
@@jimmypownall4409 You're absolutely correct: those few decades of Ford v. Holden worked out _very_ well for Supercars.
But I stand by my take for one reason: the lack of field variety in Supercars - which was the case from '97 right up to 2014, when Ford and Holden were the only ones present - meant it only took the death of one brand to almost turn Supercars into a completely spec series or kill it entirely. Pandering solely to tribal warfare came at a huge cost: armor.
V8 Supercars from 1997 to 2019 was a bit like the "Roaring 1920's" in the US: a false utopia whose shoddy foundations bore _severe_ consequences later.
When are they going to get rid of those lame pit crew 'reaction' shots?
Cutting away from the racing and showing a bunch of people in the pit area, who are just staring at a monitor is NOT entertaining, it's mind numbingly boring and is totally unnecessary.
Toyota is coming back, would LOVE to see Nissan, Mercedes and Volvo again as well! That was the best modern era of V8 Supercars and by far the most entertaining
Great video. Awesome racing action! Amazing views, great editing! Thanks for posting!
Race On!
This is the 1st time in 10yrs that I haven't watched the whole race Live (I cancelled my Subscription after Shane left). However, according to the Comments, it was a very boring race - lots of fans feeling disappointed/ducking out early etc. That's such a crying shame, this race used to be the Highlight of my MotorSport Calendar! Regardless, I'm so happy about Brodie Kostecki getting his 1st Bathurst Win - it's still an amazing achievement for any Racing Driver to have on their CV! Talking of that, Todd Hazelwood is the Luckiest Supercars Driver EVER! Sure, he did a good job in this race - it had to happen sometime, yeah?! Back to Brodie, *hopefully NOW The Erebus Team (Betty Klimenko & Barry Ryan) will stfu, dry their eyes & just let him get on with his job!* Kindest regards from Scotland, Peter x.
dear Supercars, it's nearly the end of 2024 and you're still uploading in 1080P resolution
This just shows why the 12 hour is better. I wouldn’t be surprised if Supercars do what DTM did, switching to GT3 class. I wouldn’t be unhappy with it either.
I dont know how many times it needs to be stated to people like yourself but ill say it again.
GT3’s downfall is how much they cost to fix, the body work is 10x the expense of the current Supercars bodywork. That and importation costs +the actual car and spare parts is 3 Supercars fully built. Doesn’t stack up financially.
Cars aren't the issue it's the tires.
@@Preso_ Are you sure. They were saying each V8 costs close to $500K. Surely GT3 cars can't be much more expensive and they definitely have more interesting racing.
@@tonyw4863 GT3’s are about $1.2-$1-5 Million, thats with a spare engine and other parts that you’ll replace over the weekend. Problem being that they replace them constantly and cant repair them, like the floor of the car and diffuser, they have them slammed to the ground to generate downforce but the downside is they’re getting destroyed every race, so they have to replace it more often. Supercars body work gets torn up a bit but they’re more often than not able to repair it and re apply vinyl to make it look brand new. GT3 Bodywork you cant do that with. Current Supercars are as you said around 500k and engine maintenance costs for the year are around $250k. I’ll go back to what Roland Dane said; “If Supercars did GT3, most teams would be bankrupt by Round 6.”
@@Preso_ "the body work is 10x the expense of the current Supercars bodywork" Given both bodyworks are now made of Carbon-Fibre, I don't see how such a large price difference is possible. Front bumpers went up from $2k fibreglass items under COTF to $10k carbon-fibre items on Gen 3 according to Brad Jones!
Re: importation costs, perhaps Multimatic could come to a licensing agreement with Tickford and DJR to allow some parts of the GT3 Mustang to be made locally for local use? There's no reason the series would need to follow full-on GT3 single origin rules. While 888 could homologate and build their GT3 Camaro for the world market (far more sales than just a few units to Team 18 & Premiair racing!).
Thanks for this highlights package,😊 I missed seeing the race today, due to poor tv reception 😢
yes, it was an incredibly boring race, but every series has boring races. Although its a shame how boring it was, one boring race doesn't mean Supercars is 'dead'. I hate some changes that have been made and I can agree with the arguments against them, but people are acting like one boring race is the end of the world. I'm sure next year will be a great race and despite the changes not being perfect for me, I'm still going to enjoy Supercars because I love car racing.
I wish they'd be able to attract more manufacturers into the AU v8 supercars series. It always felt better when there were at least 3 in it. I could definitely imagine like a lexus rcf v8 supercar or a BMW m5 v8 supercar. It's also sad there arent any AU manufactuerers in it anymore.
Someone missed Toyota's recent announcement..
@@deggis4 Someone may not religiously follow every car manufacturer's social media presence? A simple "toyota's actually joining" would have worked M8
@@johnsullivan937 Don't worry too much about it, Toyota coming is like sticking plaster over a hole-saw wound XD
they must allow other engines instead of v8 see other series they run boxers and inline engines too this is the only series who are stubborn to change a V8 engine since 00s, if they allow other engines, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, VW, Nissan, Toyota, Honda and so on would join, no need to change the framework just the engine and get rid off lock drivers for enduros so they can attract more foreigners into the race and more competitive aspect
From reading through the comments it looks like i made the right choice going out for lunch and doing groceries instead of watching the race
I enjoy this event on my 27th birthday back home in Adelaide.
Thank you supercars. I watch asmr videos to fall asleep to. Now i just have to put in the highlight reel not even watch the 6hr snore fest again
Perfection Brodie💪❤️
When the drivers are racing so good, it's boring. I'm sitting here as an American wanting to share this with the NASCRAP fans saying "why can't you race like this?" but it wasn't a typical Bathurst race. Little drama, clean racing, but still an incredible race to watch. Yeah might have been boring but for only 1 driver really making a race stopping mistake the entire race, that's incredible. More so when you consider how narrow this track is and the speeds they are going. Credit where it's due! Although I do miss the days of watching Ford Falcons vs Mustangs.
Nothing happened,,,, it’s just not the real Bathurst anymore
Agree its crap.
The commentators dud some pretty heavy lifting trying to keep this entertaining and an audience engaged. I only wish I had the same level of enthusiasm as the reporter who hung out on the pits looking at the telemetry data...... "Look at that green bar on the graph, compared to the last lap".
(Screams at TV) ..... "No-one cares, show us some actual drama!"
😂😂😂😂 it show how bore of a race was that telemetry was more enjoyable to watch 😂😂😂
This is why we need drivers like Stroll or Maldonado in Formula 1. With only good drivers who don't make mistakes, racing will always be boring.
This race is no longer Australian.. it's 2 brands of American cars . How boring.. not an Australian car in sight.. what a sell out... the great. Days of Bathurst are over when every brand competed for the glory and prize.. falcon , Monaro, supra, exa, Nissan gtr, toranas.. jaguar, mini, Volvo, the greatest car race ever.. now it's just boring. .. it should be a global race.. not just an American one.. y'all lost the plot and sold us down the river...
I think the Bathurst 12 hour will replace this in popularity....at least I hope so
Pretty sure the public are the reason no Australian cars race in this series. Thankfully, American cars showed up to give you all motorsport to watch live still because Holden sales tanked from 2000 to 2022 and the Falcon wasn't selling either but Mustang will always exist as per Ford Motor Company and the Camaro will probably be replaced with the Cadillac soon enough since y'all over there can't buy Holdens but can afford Caddys...
Australian MAGA big mad 🤣
Been in the UK watching the BTCC - great to see a variety of current makes and very exciting. When will Supercars learn and get rid of these dinosaurs.
TCR is struggling in Australia though. Whereas Britain can support both BTCC and British TCR with decent grids (plus Minis, Clios, Fiesta Cup, Civic Cup etc) as those are the kinds of cars that Brits like. I dunno. It's true that out on the roads in Australia, the Ford Mustang is a rare car while the Chevrolet Camaro basically doesn't exist.
once they change the engine rule we can have more cars, V8 engines are expensive thats why mercedes and Nissan left, i mean having a camaro and a mustang is okay we had them in.the 80s problem is not allowing other engines to race
Failed to put Fraser’s off-road excursion at the top of the mountain when he was trying to make up time lost from the failure of their refuelling system! After he left the pits, he had got up to fifth place. Then had to go back in for fuel after only a handful of laps! Sack your editor! 🤦♂️
I have tried to get into watching supercars because the highlights (primarily of the old gen cars) seemed really fun. But the races now are all pretty boring. I have watched the last few races of last year and said, ill stick to the highlights. Now i wonder, are all the races boring now?
Agree. I loved it in the 90s and 00s as a kid. Even up to the late 10s was decent. But if Bathurst is this boring, I can't sit down to watch the other races.
I think maybe it might be a good idea to introduce more cars combine Supercars super2 and super 3 get a 40+ car grid make it a spectacle sometimes adding that traffic and the main drivers getting through that can add some spice to the race. Just my two cents.
Yes, absolutely. Although, at the moment it would look pretty funny as the Dunlop series is about 1 second quicker per lap.
@@fcukugimmeausername lol very true might give the main guys are kick in the pants. Something has to change with the Bathurst 1000 you just can’t have races like this and expect people to keep watching
@@raffaeled8091 The thing is, Bathurst is a real opportunity for V8SC's to showcase why the sport is entertaining. I no longer watch V8SC's as I have come to expect the racing to be boring, I thought I'd give Bathurst a fair go though... it's nothing like that it was even 10 years ago.
Hell yes, dude
From the absolute mind numbing commentary from Crompton and Skaife to the lack luster pit reporting and finally the race itself which could make the hardest of crims cry of boredom. Bathurst in my opinion has long lost it's shine and excitement of years gone by.
Way to go Kostecki! Great win and what a race Feeney!!! Amazing race everyone!
See you all at Adelaide ❤❤❤
You gotta be easy to please then 🤦
It Would have been great if the commentators would quiet down when team radios came on. It's like they talked louder to cover it.
Sure, but it's not like F1 where they play a radio message after it's happened and the commentators get a warning that it's happening. The radios aren't even played on air consistently and the commentators can hear them all the time if they want to.
@aaroncopson6711 - I totally get you. It's because they will post a separate YT Video, solely about the Team Radio Chat. They do it after every race - it brings in more YT Revenue for them. Sad but (unfortunately) true.
I'd have thought it's more of a censorship issue. I heard the term, "giving the guy a character reference".....used as cover for some frustrated drivers comments
@@AJ-oj5eu Nothing to do with "censorship", or "character reference" - none of that makes any logical sense. Sorry to disagree x.
@@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater I'm sure you can understand this......if a frustrated driver starts swearing over the radio to his engineer chief about the cars performance or the driver in front holding him up, or whatever... it probably isn't a good look for a TV network having that conversation going out live on air. The reason for having commentators talking over this chatter sometimes could easily be an excuse for "semi-censoring" this vocal exchange.....as an example I gave you the scenario I heard today, while watching the race.
great race guys, pit lane has never been so alive, and the 81st lap recap, what a blast.
Miss the 2000 and 2016 era
Clean race.
12 hour is a better race now….
50 years ago, the Longest Great race ever.
40 years ago, the Best Great Race Ever.
30 years ago, the Greatest Race Ever.
This year, the worst Great Race Ever.
I'm just here for the comments
Does anyone know how these gen 3 cars compare pace wise to gt3 or gt4?
Faster on the straight. Slower in the corner, compared to gt3
The simple answer is GT3 is faster, GT4 is slower.
Here's a longer answer if you're inclined to read it:
Around Bathurst the GT3 cars are about 3 secs faster than a Supercar per lap at full tilt. GT3 has more aero so they are slightly slower on the straights, but quite a bit faster from Griffins to the elbow. That's as they run at the 12 Hour anyway.
GT3 has mandated BoP (Balance of Performance) so the various cars are handicapped in various ways (usually with weight and/or engine power restrictors) to keep the racing fair and interesting. There has been a couple of runs around Bathurst with unrestricted GT3 cars, both those laps were sub 2 minutes, so a GT3 car fully unleashed is quite a bit faster than a Gen3 Supercar.
Also, Mount Panorama is an FIA Grade 3 track, which means cars cannot have a power to weight ratio of less than 2kg per hp, and the top speed is limited to 300kmh so the cars are geared so as not to exceed this. On a Grade 2 or Grade 1 track without these restrictions (Spa or Nurburgring for example) the speed difference would undoubtedly be greater.
GT4 cars are slower. I can't find any stats with a quick search but having been to the 12 Hour many times from memory I believe the GT4 cars run around 2:12 - 2:15 lap times, so about 6 or 7 seconds slower than a Supercar. During the 12 Hour the GT3 cars begin lapping the GT4 cars after about a dozen or so laps, the speed difference is quite a bit.
Cheers
@@woopimagpie thank you!
2 horse race, boring to watch. Seen 2 minutes of the whole race and went outside counting grass blades in the garden which was more exciting. Bring back the old days. More car brands would make it a real race.
10 YEARS AGO
The Greatest Great Race Ever
10 YEARS LATER
The Boring Great Race Ever
Honestly the major highlight is which car has the best colour arrangement.
The Petit Le Mans and the Bathurst 1000 on the same weekend? It's an endurance race fans dream come true!
it was a boring race but you still got 18 minutes in highlights
Bathurst 1000 needs to combine Super Cars and Dunlop Series together. That way we get 40 cars on the grid which will open up way more depth like it use to be with strategy such as when leaders catch-up to lapped cars (pit early, or battle through traffic), significantly more passing / action on the track and a good learning experience for the Dunlop drivers.
Love the lady going into the toilet - just as the only real accident of the day happens & on her corner. 12mins
25 years ago, the greatest V8 Supercars race ever.
25 years later, the worst V8 Supercars ever.
For me it was full night race and it was hard to watch. It lacked any spark of adrenaline, that keeps you going. I had to bail out after 40 laps. Nice highligts, thanks
All these fans want is entertainment
V8 + Bathurs = ❤
Forget about……..bringing the Bathurst it’s more like bring Bathurst back to the great race it once was.
The craziest part of this video is how many people in the comments are essentially willingly admitting that they'd rather see safety cars and bloodshed and doorbashing than clean hard racing. "Oh no what a snoozefest I didn't see anyone die from a 4 car pileup. They've really fallen off" 🙄
I don’t think it’s about seeing horrible accidents or people getting hurt I think the cars are way to close in performance and so reliable these days that 1000km without any real unpredictable outcomes can get monotonous in all honesty the Bathurst 1000 needs a shake up I mean even the commentators were kinda begging for a safety car if you hear them lol
@@raffaeled8091 This. Uniform cars with no character and little room for varied strategic thinking tend to add up to races like this.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 It's not just the cars, it's the drivers and the teams. Everyone speaks the same, they're all PR trained. It's so sterile now.
It was a good race I thought, there were plenty of driver errors, if people want crashing, bunches of cautions, or safety cars, go watch NASCAR where driving standards are lower and they pretty much encourage drivers wrecking each other and being idiots...this was a pure motor race.
2013 was the previous fastest race before this, 10X more entertianing than this crap.
Favourite cars and favourite track
All time unique races on earth 4ever
When the thump nail is the most exciting shot 😂😂 still love the V8s,
Coverage is amazing F1 could learn a lot from a team that value the Fans .
May be a “snoozefest” but those cars sound bloody fantastic,
I hope these changes you're making lately (Toyota, "Drivers Only" podcasts etc which are all great) allow you to hang on to your dwindling fanbase long enough for you to fix your car regulations. Cause if you don't, it'll all be a waste of energy. This has quickly become one of the least entertaining forms of motorsport anywhere on the planet.
SVG was spot on.
The cars are crap.
This should be renamed the Camaro racing series. Everything is stacked in favour of Camaros. Why Ford parttake in this farce is beyond comprehension. They would be better off off starting a Mustang-only series like in the US which is very successful and produces better racing than this highly Camaro/GM-biased series with rules and governing body favouring the GM cars. Hollow victories every single one of them.
Yet WAY BACK WHEN the Mustang spanked the beloved Holden Commodore for just 2 seasons/Bathursts, Roland Dane of triple 888 racing wanted he claimed, the brands to have parity, or viewership would drop significantly, hurting ALL the teams. He got every thing needed to get GM back on top. Funny thing is, I've heard no such things after Ford going to Bathurst 5 years in a row empty handed, after saving the series !!
"Nobody dare blink" hard to do when you fell asleep at lap 20
put a manual h pattern gearbox and smaller tyres on them , put some exitement back into bathurst.. these are great race cars ,,,,,, but when you put youre beer down and its more satisfying to mow the lawn????? WTF
To be fair, the tyres are still the same size as on the VN Group A SS (280mm wide by 680mm diameter, 18" instead of 17" now, but still very narrow for a 600hp car -- a road going Mustang has 305mm rears nowadays). A H-pattern shifter for the XTrac box would be lovely though!
the gearbox is.not.the problem, personally is engines and lock of drivers, imagine having ex f1 drivers or other wec drivers running on bathrust, same with engines V8 are expensive, they must allow L engines, Boxers and so on to make other manufacturers join, thats why we dont have more cars, regulations can benefit one or other engine as well as other cars, same with layouts i see more entertainment to watch Porsche carrera cup or f1 than this series nowdays
As an American, I'd love to see these cars run at Charlotte Roval and the streets of Detroit. Maybe St Pete, Fl. Also, as an American, I'd love to come back to Aussie land and attend these races.
I miss the old days of Supercars...