Apple's M4 Mac Mini is the Best Deal for Photographers and Filmmakers

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
    @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- Месяц назад +55

    I fuckin love this German guy! No nonsense and straight to the point.

    • @addsfour3499
      @addsfour3499 Месяц назад +3

      Yup, that’s Germans for you. Also, usually very very accurate

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +6

      Thank you very very much 😃

    • @livin_lino
      @livin_lino Месяц назад +3

      Yes, I follow both his channels. Some videos he posts only in his german channel, and I rely on subtitles. Worth it! No BS videos!

    • @xray2785
      @xray2785 Месяц назад

      Yes, I agree. So much better than the pair of clowns at Max Tech

    • @xray2785
      @xray2785 Месяц назад +4

      Apps can be installed on external storage since Sequoia 15.1

  • @GeorgeWilkins
    @GeorgeWilkins Месяц назад +29

    Thank you for showing actual footage of the M4 scrubbing through a fully edited video and showing it performing well while actually on the editing timeline! Most other reviews I've seen either just show how fast it can render the video which I don't mind waiting for anyways or use a benchmark for the editing software that's hard to translate into actual day to day performance. I was considering the M4 Pro but after watching this I don't think I need it and can save a lot of money just going with the base model. Thanks for the help. 👍

  • @ChelseaBangkok
    @ChelseaBangkok Месяц назад +19

    Can you recommend a monitor for photographers to go with the Mac Mini 4 ? Thanks !

    • @brynredding4573
      @brynredding4573 Месяц назад +3

      Yes, please! I'd love to know this, too.

    • @numinoos
      @numinoos Месяц назад

      Go for the Eizo ColorEdge series 27”. I have been using one for 10 years, the CG277. Built-in calibrator and wide gamut IPS. Can work hours on photos without eye fatigue.

    • @Royaleoake
      @Royaleoake 20 дней назад +4

      As a photographer: OLED is nice, but not required (print your work). Definitely get an IPS display. Any monitor that advertises color accuracy is good. Personally I like anything from Dell Ultrasharp. I print Super B 13x19 inches at the largest, so I found that a 27” monitor is best for this. I would also try to get as much resolution as possible, to match whatever resolution you’re shooting at. For me, my Nikon DSLRs are 24mega pixel, so anything from UHD to 4K+ is always nice.

    • @MasterChief4U
      @MasterChief4U 14 дней назад

      @@Royaleoake Every Dell I bought works perfect on my Mac Mini... Yes there expensive in the $600.00+ range. Their Alienware IPS is probably the best value at 240hz. But a Mac Mini is not going to run at 240hz anyways... I run a 27" and 24" They work just fine.
      And nothing beats Dell warranty... I had a pixel go bad. They had a new one on front door the next day. With a prepaid return label for the old one. As they come with 3 year warranties..

    • @M.Montgomery
      @M.Montgomery 13 дней назад

      BenQ SW series are excellent I use the SW321C and SW272Q for editing. And the Canon PRO-1000 for printing my photographs up to A2.

  • @zorbas77
    @zorbas77 3 дня назад +1

    can you please tell me the name of the display arm (the white one I see in this video) please?

  • @xray2785
    @xray2785 Месяц назад +8

    Now Since Sequoia 15.1 Apps can be installed on external media when downloaded from the Mac App Store. Other apps can often still be moved to external media and run from it.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you for the Info I will give that a try in the future. :)

  • @RonMarcus
    @RonMarcus 21 день назад +2

    First - I'm glad I stumbled across your channel, David. This video is very informative and very well presented. Second - thank you for this comprehensive review of the Mac Mini M4 for photo and video editing. I bought mine a little over two weeks ago and was trying to decide since then if I should return it and get the M4 Pro version for editing videos. I don't produce videos as often as a regular RUclips content creator, I use FCP, and I was coming from an M1 MacBook Air. Still, I wondered if I should have opted for more power. I am on a budget, so I opted to stay with the M4 Mac Mini. Like you, I had purchased the SSD upgrade to 512 GB, which I find more than ample for my needs (while 256 GB would have NOT worked with all the apps I have). Bottom line: your honest review has validated my decision to stick with the base model. Thank you! Third - I am subscribed, and I liked this video. I look forward to more of your content! - Ron

  • @NorthBorneoLights
    @NorthBorneoLights Месяц назад +3

    I don't typically watch computer reviews but for some reason I watched the whole thing. I'm not even in the market for a Mac Mini! However I did look it up and in my country it's even cheaper than I expected. Very interesting - really does sound like a great deal. Good job for the video.

  • @TheFeedRocket
    @TheFeedRocket Месяц назад +3

    Great review! This was the first review I saw with fan noise, temps, and power consumption. That is some amazingly low power consumption. I wish you had a Pro model to test.

  • @perczeld
    @perczeld Месяц назад +3

    Hello! Would you mind telling me what monitor you use please?
    Great video, made me really think about upgrading to this thing!

  • @zachwarner7164
    @zachwarner7164 Месяц назад +4

    apps can be downloads on external btw

    • @ronzepavone8025
      @ronzepavone8025 Месяц назад +2

      I was surprised he said explicitly the opposite. You can even run Mac OS on an external drive (but you won’t get Apple intelligence support)

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +2

      Yes I just learned that that is something new from MacOS 15 but It just runs when they are formatted with APFS. I will give that a try.

  • @chrislguo
    @chrislguo Месяц назад +2

    How do you like the Zike enclosure? Does it get too hot? Is the cable high quality?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +4

      It gets hot when you constantly write on it. But I use it since 1,5 years and I haven't found anything better overall. I made a Comparison Review over on my German Channel.

  • @jean-charles9931
    @jean-charles9931 Месяц назад +2

    Excellent! I was looking for a photo-oriented review and got from you all the info I needed. I think that for Capture One + Topaz and no video making, M4 non-pro and 24 Gb of RAM will put me on the safe side for years. MfG

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you for the Feedback! I also think so! 👌🏼

  • @original12310
    @original12310 Месяц назад +3

    Most people - like me - will accept 3 minutes waiting times versus 1min30s. And games are not all AAA: for instance I play Civilization V that still runs smoothly on a 2015 MBP. So it's good to see a video that's talks about "normal" uses, instead of selling higher and higher specs for daily tasks just to gain 1 minute in a Lightroom export.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah absolutely! But to be clear, I personally use a M3 Max MacBook Pro since I'm allergic to waiting and can afford it for my work use. But right now I do a challange and changed my macbook for the Mini to see if it truely can do everything I need it to do, so far it runs great.

  • @HorukAI
    @HorukAI Месяц назад +3

    Refreshing to hear someone who actually knows what’s he talking about ✌️

  • @JagtapPV
    @JagtapPV Месяц назад +3

    what’s your recommendation for stitching panoramic images will 24gb ram be enough?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +2

      I guess but I don't know. On Windows Minis I never tried with lower then 32GB since thats the amount most Windows Mini PCs come with.

    • @PeterQuentercrimsonbamboo
      @PeterQuentercrimsonbamboo Месяц назад

      Hmmm… I don’t understand… I have made panoramas with 15…20..+.. files from a 24megapix camera with Lightroom on my 2017 iMac … why it would it not work on a triple-next-generation new mac 7years later today ??

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      @@PeterQuentercrimsonbamboo yeah I also have less powerfull PC's do this task but here it just hangs.

  • @masimasek2516
    @masimasek2516 Месяц назад

    How does the timeline work while editing in 4k in premiere pro?

  • @brentOhlookAsnake
    @brentOhlookAsnake 25 дней назад

    What is the little display you have plugged into the Mac mini? That think is perfect for my needs

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  25 дней назад +1

      Thats an Innocn 15" OLED Full HD Display. Pretty handy thing even for gaming.

  • @SchaufussTV
    @SchaufussTV Месяц назад +1

    Apple Intelligence is available in the EU on the Mac (but not iPhone and iPad), but only if you set the language to US english as that is the only language currently supported.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      Yes I know but only in english as you say.

  • @bcatt72
    @bcatt72 20 дней назад

    Thanks for this great video. Do you think there is an upside to move to 32Gb RAM of a Mac Mini M4 or would it be better to move to base M4 pro with 24Gb ?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  17 дней назад

      24GB should be fine for the next two years.

  • @ChrisPollard
    @ChrisPollard Месяц назад +1

    At 19:57 you say apps can't be installed on external SSDs ... but I believe you are incorrect. The Application folder can be moved to an external SSD. You can also install to the internal SSD and then move the applications to an external drive. I don't have my Mini yet (two more days), but I've been researching it a fair bit and found many sources showing how it works. You just need to be sure your SSD stays attached, or the app vanishes too.
    I went ahead and ordered a 2TB Gen 4x4 SSD with a Thunderbolt 40Gbps enclosure and installing apps to the external drive was my plan from day one. Hopefully everything I've read and watched wasn't wrong about that. From testing I've viewed, the base 256GB read/write runs around 2,500MB/s and may actually be slightly slower than an external SSD running at full speed. But those are still faster than most people are getting from whatever system they are coming from and won't feel the least bit sluggish for non-professional use, where you'd want the M4 Pro/Max/Ultra anyway.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      Applications Folder can’t be moved to SSD and they can be installed just if the App is bigger then one GB.

  • @brijeshjoshi7756
    @brijeshjoshi7756 Месяц назад +1

    thanks dear to give these valuable feedbacks, I am a video editor and I generally use after effects and premiere for my workflow. Does after effects run smoothly?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      After Effects would be way to much for this Machine. You should at least go with a M4 pro.

  • @dionhouston
    @dionhouston Месяц назад +1

    Danke shön! That was a very thorough review, specifically for photography (exactly what I was looking for!). You also answered a specific question - I have the original M1 Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM and 256GB HD. 90% of what I do runs fine, but stitching panos and 360s frequently runs out of memory. You confirmed to me that hasn't changed (I didn't think it would), so when I buy the M4 Mac Mini, I'll get it with extra RAM. Just not sure what the sweet spot is - RAM is particularly expensive on these. I'm subscribed now -- keep it up!

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      My guess the that the 24 would help a lot but to be safe I would go with 32GB the rest is sufficient for the next time when you have a external SSD

  • @enigmabletchley6936
    @enigmabletchley6936 7 дней назад

    Great video. I was wondering about paying a bit more for the M4 Mac Mini Pro just to have more power.
    What I would really like to know is what make/model of display you are using in the Lightroom section of the video.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  5 дней назад +1

      Thats on ASUS QD OLED 32" 4K 240 HZ Model. From M4 to M4 Pro is not just "a bit more" it's at least double that could quickly get 3 times as much

    • @enigmabletchley6936
      @enigmabletchley6936 5 дней назад

      @@davision-en Thanks, so much for informing me about the monitor. Do you have any idea how the 10gpus compare to say a NVIDIA 4070 8GB card in a PC. This is my quandry. How do I compare across PCs with graphic cards.

  • @MarlonCampbell-e3p
    @MarlonCampbell-e3p Месяц назад +1

    Needed to hear that! THANKS :D

  • @IKSHITJOSHI
    @IKSHITJOSHI Месяц назад +4

    Awesome video , Your skill are amazing , You should upload some tutorials 101 for new photographers and editors

  • @omenkingPL
    @omenkingPL 12 дней назад

    why is everyone recommend an additional 2tb drive? if i buy 4tb will the system detect it or is there a size limit?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  12 дней назад +1

      No but 2TB is the Sweet-Spot for Price to Size at the Moment. If you want 4 or 8TB go for it.

    • @omenkingPL
      @omenkingPL 12 дней назад

      @davision-en thank you man! this is my first mac, size 4tb for me is good choice but price is verse uncomfortable.. ;) thanks!!

  • @steveblanchard7293
    @steveblanchard7293 Месяц назад +1

    great and fair review. Just need to source a display - did external sound run of the USB C?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      I just used the Internal Speaker first but would go with a USB4 Dock or a DAC if I would do so.
      Also most Monitors have Headphone out so you don't loose a Port.

  • @e-genieclimatique
    @e-genieclimatique Месяц назад +1

    the best video about this topic 🎉

  • @valhala73
    @valhala73 Месяц назад +1

    Nice video!!!! Which monitor do you think will be the best match for this Mac Mini?
    All the best

  • @Kristof_InsertRandomText
    @Kristof_InsertRandomText Месяц назад

    Is the Mac Mini M4 base worth getting if the RAM and Storage is upgraded to 24GB and 512GB, or is it purely the chip that will hold back its performance?
    Here in South Africa upgrading those 2 components is still a lot cheaper than the pro modal.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      At some point the GPU would be holding you back yes. But it highly depends on what you plan on doing with it.

    • @Kristof_InsertRandomText
      @Kristof_InsertRandomText Месяц назад

      @@davision-en Photography & Videography - but not at a professional level.
      I'm a hobbyist but also want something that would last.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +2

      @@Kristof_InsertRandomText for Photography it doesn't hold you back at all since it even outperforms the M3 Max MBP with 64GB RAM. I create 8-10 Videos a month on a professional level and could do this at the Mini as well just with longer export times.

    • @Kristof_InsertRandomText
      @Kristof_InsertRandomText Месяц назад

      @@davision-en awesome, appreciate the responses and guidance 🙏 thanks so much 💪

  • @theaugust1851
    @theaugust1851 27 дней назад

    Thanks for this great review. Curious what monitor(s) you’re using. Thanks!

  • @chrisfoley.design
    @chrisfoley.design Месяц назад +1

    when do you guys turn off your Mac? very very rarely if anything its a restart

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      Yes of course but I mostly use my Power Button to lock my mac.

  • @michaelmanus7765
    @michaelmanus7765 Месяц назад

    I do photo work and at times upscale video etc. From what others have said, the M4 Pro can have fans kick in fairly quick and can be audible. How was your experience? I know that the M4 Pro is more than enough power but consider the footprint of the new Mini may be the culprit for heat dispersion challenges. Your thoughts please?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      As I said in the Video the Fan doesn't even Spin when the CPU is under 100% Load. Just when GPU and CPU are tacked at 100% is starts to be audible but far from annoying. You can hear it in the Video as well.

  • @ricardorgomez
    @ricardorgomez Месяц назад

    Great video! I was surprised by the production quality with such a new channel.
    The mini has been getting such stellar reviews. A real bargain. With the performance of Apple Silicon, I bet most people will get a good 5 years of use out of the machine. Probably longer. I used to work at a Mac repair shop and people were bringing in their 10-years old iMacs!

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks a ton! This English Channel hasn’t got so much love from me as my main German one but since this year I‘m doing a lot more videos in English as well. Thats why the channel is so small.

    • @ricardorgomez
      @ricardorgomez Месяц назад +1

      @ Keep them coming! Your English is great and the information you post is as well!

  • @Royaleoake
    @Royaleoake 20 дней назад +1

    I really want one eventually because there are somethings, like gaming and printing, that I just cannot do on my iPad Pro M2.

  • @shauryamishra
    @shauryamishra Месяц назад +3

    Fellow photographer here from Berlin, and that bottle on the table it’s super familiar 😂

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      😍 check out my German Channel I post much more Videos over there!

  • @tutusik
    @tutusik Месяц назад

    Which set of encloser and ssd do you recommend?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      I personally use the ZIKEDRIVE USB4 Enclosure.

  •  18 дней назад

    ok so I'm about to buy one and I'm confused. I usually use Chrome with more than 30 tabs open, VDI remote working, and my main work is in Adobe LrC heavely, with 25Mb DNG files for now.. That's all, then ofcourse i listen to music, and most of my tasks are done in Google Workspace. I currently have a iMAC 27" 2022 with 32Gb RAM and 5112 GB of SSD, and it's getting slower every day. What i really want is a fast machine to work with LrC with no lag. Would it be better to have a Mac mini M4 with 24 or maybe 32 MB of RAM and 1TB SSD or a M4 pro with 24 GB or RAM and 1TB? I would appreciate your support on this expensive decision. thansk :)

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  17 дней назад +1

      Go for the M4 with 24Gig that should be good to go.

    •  17 дней назад

      @@davision-enthanks buddy 😊

  • @chiscochacon
    @chiscochacon Месяц назад

    Great review, thanks. If I get this mac mini with 16 gb but in the future need more RAM, is it possible to add it?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      No like any mac they don't have upgradeable RAM

  • @Sixmyth
    @Sixmyth Месяц назад +1

    great review! just Subscribed

  • @emtouree9404
    @emtouree9404 Месяц назад

    Starkes Video. Danke für die Infos besonders Davinci Performance. 😎

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      Danke für das Lob! Aber deutsch bitte auf dem deutschen Channel lassen

  • @Tom_Demuth
    @Tom_Demuth Месяц назад +1

    Thx, as always 🔥

  • @michaelwortman7712
    @michaelwortman7712 Месяц назад

    What external drive are you using (the aluminum one)?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      Thats the ZIKEDRIVE USB4 Enclosure.

  • @porcovacco193
    @porcovacco193 Месяц назад

    Is Microsoft's Cloud Gaming (GamePass) well implemented on these Mac minis?

  • @addsfour3499
    @addsfour3499 Месяц назад +1

    Agreed, sad card instead of headphone jack would be the dream, but its still an amazing product

    • @mauriceschoenen
      @mauriceschoenen Месяц назад

      No, the headphone jack is perfect, but sd card reader would be great as well.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      I didn’t say I want the one or the other I want both.

  • @JustMe-tk4po
    @JustMe-tk4po Месяц назад

    @Davidson what would be equivalent of the base m4 mini on performance ladder compared to desktop pc (not mini)? For all but gaming. I am considering 7950x and 4090 or a base model mini and air. Eventually a Mac Studio m4. But wondering if the pc spec above would clearly be superior for non gaming workloads or if Mac is surprisingly close

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      In Single Core Performance the best Intel and AMD CPUs come just close to the M4 Performance. A 4090 System will be better in some Video Editing workloads but that also highly depends on what you are doing. Just basic editing of 4K with Grading it will just give you a higher power bill and some shorter Export times.

  • @PBXCREATOR
    @PBXCREATOR Месяц назад

    Suggest me i am editor and colorist in davicni resolve. I am also using after effects. Is this machine is good for my editing task? 16 gb ram or 24 gb ram with 256 ssd. Please tell me sir 🙏

  • @ovi_4
    @ovi_4 Месяц назад

    How about 3D modeling ??? Does anybody know how is behaving when running Sketchup on it ??? That's the very reason I'm thinking weather to buy one or not . I've looked everywhere for this answer but couldn't find any (so far)

  • @harshraj7307
    @harshraj7307 Месяц назад

    Con you please give us live demo or how adobe premiere pro and after effect work

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      I don't use either of this tools since they suck. I use Pugetbench to get a Premier Pro Comparison and thats it. I use and highly recommend Resolve and Fusion for such work and as a benefit you will get way less headache from it then from Adobe.

  • @zigziar
    @zigziar Месяц назад

    1st time viewer, and after having watched many reviews on the mac mini m4 I have to agree with others on your no nonsense approach, and I love the amount of detail you give, a full picture!... thanks +1 subscriber!... P.S. Do people often tell you that you look quite a lot like Post Malone? lol

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      Thank you for the feedback and your sub!
      Never heard that, just some people told me I look like messi.

  • @MrXxTyphoonxX
    @MrXxTyphoonxX Месяц назад

    that oohtra is fire!!!

  • @modoulaminceesay9211
    @modoulaminceesay9211 Месяц назад

    Thanks this gave me a good idea , I can just buy it as a spare I just like the form factor

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      I literally just did this. Returned the 512GB one, got the Base Model 16/256 just to have it. Right now doing a little challange to see if I could truely and fully life with it in my daily workflow.

    • @modoulaminceesay9211
      @modoulaminceesay9211 Месяц назад

      @ funny how we are all enticed by a product

  • @ianforber
    @ianforber Месяц назад

    Good video, thank you. I’m coming from a 2017 MacBook Pro and you’ve convinced me that 16GB is sufficient for my hobby photography needs. I keep all my photos on external SSDs but I’ll probably go for the 512GB storage just to make life easier in future with ever larger software. All I need now is to decide on a monitor. The Studio Display is so tempting but so expensive.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      Keep in mind that the studio display is just a 27“. That’s pretty small for my taste.

    • @ianforber
      @ianforber Месяц назад

      Fair point. I’ve never had a display bigger than 16” so I was hoping it would look big to me!

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  29 дней назад

      @@ianforber Maybe then it would look Big for you :) I personally like 32" 4K for my Work.

  • @Youtubeuseritis
    @Youtubeuseritis Месяц назад

    Is 16gb base ram enough? Or 24 or even 32 minimum for any real work?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +2

      Like I said I can do everything that I do daily with just this 16GB of RAM but who knows whats there to come? I think it depends on how long you plan to keep this PC.

    • @Youtubeuseritis
      @Youtubeuseritis Месяц назад

      @davision-en do you recommend the 10gb internet upgrade or you think that is over kill?

    • @TheFeedRocket
      @TheFeedRocket Месяц назад +1

      I would highly recommend 24 or 32, if you multitask IE run say Photoshop, Final Cut, multiple browser windows / tabs...etc. I run into a wall with 16GB, I crash at least every other day now on my M1 16gb iMac. I might have multiple browser windows with multiple tabs open while editing or using photoshop, Apple Music, multiple finder windows, maybe a few web apps as well. Also I hear Apple Intelligence eats up gigs too. So yeah if you're organized and only use a few apps at once you will good. If you like opening lots of apps, tabs in finder, photos, listen to music etc. Go for 24 or 32. I'm going for 32 at minimum on my new system or more thinking about generative AI, but I multi task or just lazy and leave stuff open.😄

    • @Youtubeuseritis
      @Youtubeuseritis Месяц назад +1

      @ 32gb almost double the price 🙂. But I think it is most likely worth it.

  • @zaks7
    @zaks7 Месяц назад +3

    Another club mate enjoyer. I see it on your desk! :)

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      Loving it! What country are you from? I thought they are just avaiable in Germany?

    • @zaks7
      @zaks7 Месяц назад

      @@davision-en I study in germany so I've come here and become a fan of the mate drinks, haha

    • @cichlisuite2
      @cichlisuite2 28 дней назад

      @@davision-en I was introduced to it on a trip to Berlin a long time ago but it's available in the UK as well now.

  • @pyroBlastM
    @pyroBlastM Месяц назад

    Is this the base model?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +6

      How about even watching 2 Minutes of my Video?

    • @carlosazevedo7748
      @carlosazevedo7748 Месяц назад

      @@davision-en I didn't watch the first 2/3 min. But watched the rest till the end.

    • @Youtubeuseritis
      @Youtubeuseritis Месяц назад +1

      ​@@davision-en you got 16gb/512gb. Is 24gb/256 better in highsight?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      @@RUclipsuseritis I would pick 24GB / 256GB if I would buy again for some future proofing. With maybe upgradeable Storage in sight.

    • @RahulPradipPatil
      @RahulPradipPatil Месяц назад

      @@davision-en Sadly this Combination is not available in INDIA, 16+256 / 512 or 24+512 variant
      Edit - I just Check... it's possible & I Order one for myself :) Thanks for the review

  • @Realist-m9c
    @Realist-m9c Месяц назад +2

    98c! I wonder how long these components will last at such high temperatures? That is way too hot!

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +2

      The Temperature of the Chip itself doesn't influence it's life time since they are designed for more then 100° for years and silicon doesn't degrade with heat.

    • @TheFeedRocket
      @TheFeedRocket Месяц назад +2

      Heat is the #1 reason for failures by far. Yes it is true, the chip is fine at 98c, but it's the board and other parts that will degrade or fail over time of high temps. This was a stress test, short period, so 98c is OK, plus Apple certainly designs to get that heat away from other parts, I still prefer lower temps higher fan noise any day.
      Macs tend to run hot as Apple likes less fan noise, I would use fan control and ramp up the fans, it's still not noisy and yes it can save you from problems. I feel letting the heat go so high is the main reason some Macs end up with board failures. These tiny enclosures and lower fan speeds will lessen the life depending on usage, with M1 MacBooks I saw failures because they ran hot and people would use them on beds or a couch so heat built up instead of dissipating. I don't blame Apple, people want thin, tiny computers and no noise, and I saw failures from heat on all brands.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      @@TheFeedRocket I think you got this totally wrong, the CPU Die is at 98° not the Board, the PC itself or anything else. It's the CPUs Die Temp nothing more. And no, CPUs don't degrade from high heat.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      @@TheFeedRocket and this #1 reason for failure it complete nonsense, if you can please provide my with some Sources for Fact Checking. I never heard of a System failing because of high CPU Die temps and I'm a IT professional and was working in IT for 15 Years before getting self employed. I even was a professional overclocker back in the day. I never ever heard that a CPU was failing just because of high Die Temps. No, maybe with High Voltages as well, not the case here. You can even run CPUs without a cooler and they will just throttle as hell but not die.

    • @TheFeedRocket
      @TheFeedRocket Месяц назад

      ​@@davision-en Maybe it's because you are in Germany and the PC's you had there were not cheaply made, because I have no idea how you never heard of a system failing from high CPU temps. Heat is certainly a top reason for component/system failure here. I didn't say anything about CPU failing from heat, I said the CPU is OK at 98c, especially being a stress test. Where does that heat go? if the manufacturer does things right it is removed through vents or even the case itself as a heatsink. But people do dumb things, they place computers in poorly ventilated locations, fans fail, get dirty, people use laptops on beds, carpets etc. Depending on the usage heat is the thing that cause most failures, not the CPU failing, but the board and components on the board fail from sustained high heat which comes from the CPU mostly. PCs board failures I fixed back in the day were over 50% heat related, even some voltage issues came about because of heat degrading a solder joint or other component which in turn caused the voltage issues.
      Keep using it in those poor situations with the heat build up (from the CPU) can cause board failures especially in poorly ventilated PCs. I don't like heat, heat absolutely degrades components, it's not even debatable, they do tests on systems or electronic parts and heat plays a huge part in finding out the MTBF (mean time between failures), and just 10c can make a huge difference in the life or failure of a component. Again not talking CPU failure, although back in the day heat did degrade CPUs 🤪
      I actually encountered it often, but I asked ChatGPT, Is heat the #1 reason for board failures? this is what it said:
      Yes, heat is often considered the #1 reason for electronic board failures. Excessive heat can cause several issues in electronic components and printed circuit boards (PCBs), including: and it went on to list issues.
      You know I should have kept a record but lots of poorly built PC's, I mean really that was what I mostly encountered, extremely rare to get a call for Apple, or Dell Optiplex, Dell consumer line yes, but there was a zillion more PC's I guess, some had such poor designs and poor components. I always built my own, still have one running 24/7 for like 10 years, 7 fans, not loud, personally I have had 9 PC's never had a single failure of anything. only 2 Macs, also no issues. I miss the calls, I fixed a lot over the phone, but hated software issues so much, I ended up telling people to buy a Mac, and I slowly lost repeat customers...seriously I ruined my own business.🤣

  • @f.ingenia
    @f.ingenia 29 дней назад

    thanks, great job!

  • @vasanthnagkv5654
    @vasanthnagkv5654 Месяц назад

    What about how hot it gets?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      See in the Video.

    • @vasanthnagkv5654
      @vasanthnagkv5654 Месяц назад +1

      @ ah? I didn’t notice you talking about it. Will check again! Thank you and thank you for the video. Is that club matte beside you? Lovely drink! 😀

  • @krishnansrinivasan830
    @krishnansrinivasan830 Месяц назад +1

    Awesome & Thanks Sir :)

  • @127bradfordroad
    @127bradfordroad Месяц назад

    This is a great review! Could you tell us more about the SSD drive that you mention....is it an 'over-the-counter' device or did you have to construct it?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      It's a SSD Enclosure where you can put a M.2 SSD Inside. It doesn't need any tools and there aren't any out of the box that are this fast and that cheap. It's the ZIKEDRIVE USB4 Enclosure.

  • @NirHason
    @NirHason Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for the video! The only things that makes me want to go with the M4 and not the M4 Pro is the fan noise

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +2

      Yes the M4 Pro has a higher Power Budget so it runs hotter and needs more cooling.

    • @FilipCools
      @FilipCools Месяц назад

      @@davision-enI am thorned between the M4 and M4 Pro model as well. If budget would be no issue would you recommend the Mac Mini M4 Pro over the base M4 model for Thunderbolt 5, higher memory bandwidth and more CPU/GPU power?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      @@FilipCools If the Budget is there I would go with a M4 Pro, as I said I can do everything I do on the M4 Base but I also use a MBP 16" with M3 Max for now and M4 Max soon. You don't need to but you never know when you need it.

  • @zedpassway4140
    @zedpassway4140 20 дней назад

    Nice effort. But most of us who have photo needs would buy at least the M4Pro with 48 GB RAM and 14 core config. Why are all these tests against the M4max with thge base models that no one who is into photo or video would actually buy?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  17 дней назад

      Why should you? I regularly use a M3 Max and now M4 Max MBP but I just used the M4 Mac Mini for the last 3 Weeks and it can do EVERYTHING I usually do on my much more expensive Notebook with 4x the RAM and GPU.

  • @edgarin8907
    @edgarin8907 Месяц назад

    Would you recommend me getting the base m4 Mac mini if my only purpose to use it is to edit 4K videos in FCP and doing color grading? And running off external ssds? I don’t think that m4 pro will be necessary and i am trying to avoid paying more for ssd upgrade

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +2

      I have no experience with Final Cut, but I dropped 4K 60 from my R5 II HEVC 4:2:2 into FCP 11 this days and I went just fine as long as you are just cutting and grading. Everything that is GPU Effects will make is much slower. But for Basic Editing and Grading this is just fine.

  • @BillyLuna
    @BillyLuna Месяц назад

    New sub here. Great channel. Would you be so kind as to answer a few questions. I mostly use Final Cut Pro & Photoshop to create videos on my Billy Luna Crime Stories YT channel. I am working in 1080p, but plan to start working in 4k. Currently I am Using a Sandisk Extreme Pro SSD (2TB & 4TB) to edit off whilst using FCP.
    1) For my needs, which exact configuration of the new M4 Mac Mini should I get? (Pro or no, RAM, SSD)
    2) Can I get maximum speed via Thunderbolt 4 or 5 using a Sandisk Extreme Pro SSD?
    3) Is there any speed or performance advantage in going with a 1 TB SSD vs 512?
    4) I’m now leaning toward an M4 PRO MAC MINI 512 SSD & 64 GB - Is this overkill for running Final Cut Pro, Photoshop and 30 web browser tabs open at the same time?
    5) Do I need to worry about fan noise when I’m recording on camera video or voice over?
    I would really like to save $ by not going with the pricey Apple storage & sticking with the externals. Thank you!

  • @jinraigami3349
    @jinraigami3349 Месяц назад +1

    13:30 ZikeDrive fellow user.

  • @JohnnyLeuthard
    @JohnnyLeuthard Месяц назад

    The base model of the Mac Mini feels like a bait-and-switch. Apple lures you in with an attractive price, but the reality is that the 256GB SSD isn't practical for most users. Unless your needs are limited to email and basic web browsing, you'll quickly hit storage limits, especially if you have an iPhone full of photos.
    Expanding storage externally means dealing with slower USB drives, and upgrading directly through Apple is exorbitant. For example, upgrading to just 512GB of storage (still barely enough for many) and adding 8GB of RAM costs nearly **double** the price of the base model. Charging $200 for adding 8GB of RAM is outrageous and typical of Apple.
    Even if you rely on iCloud to offset storage limitations, you're still locked into a costly monthly subscription (starting around $25/month), further inflating the total cost over time. In the end, the base price is just the tip of the iceberg-most users will pay far more than they initially intended.Not to mention you are putting all your data into someone else's hands and trusting them 100% not to lose it and to decide at any moment you violated some agreement and locking you out of your data. So either way you are paying way more than you intended and getting less than you expected for the price.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      You can move you home folder to an external SSD and install and run Applications from external drives. The 16GB RAM are fine and the SSD will be upgradeable in the future hopefully.

  • @JohnDoe-el5ir
    @JohnDoe-el5ir Месяц назад

    The problem is that I’m not photographer nor video maker and even I don’t know persons who is. So apple is lacking software to be used with and the only use is for videos and graphics?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      My but my Channel is facing Photographers and Filmmakers. So maybe this Video is not for you.

    • @JohnDoe-el5ir
      @JohnDoe-el5ir Месяц назад

      @ not my fault that YT served me this

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      @@JohnDoe-el5ir Even the Title says so...

  • @DidarHussain.
    @DidarHussain. Месяц назад +1

    Apple marketing genius, "lets introduce the problem, move the start button to a place that gives people something to complain about", waits 3 years then reverses it... apple fan boys go mad and upgrade.

  • @mlhm5
    @mlhm5 Месяц назад

    I have multiple Apple devices - Apple watch (3), phone, iPad (2), TV, and a Macbook Pro, however, IMO the $600 base Mac Mini 4 does not deserve the hype. It only has 256GB of storage which is what you would find in a 2005 computer. You can easily buy a MiniPC from multiple manufacturers with a comparable Ryzen 9 8945HS CPU, 1TB of storage and 32GB of memory for $650. Many MiniPC's support Occulink, have a display port, a 2.5GB LAN, plus a few USB 3.2 ports.

    • @Mergfc542
      @Mergfc542 Месяц назад

      Does it run MacOS?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +5

      As I‘ve shown in this Video the Mac Mini is way faster in anything then the fastest Windows Mini PCs. I let the fastest Intel and AMD Mini PCs in the Charts (Zen5 and 14th Gen) and the M4 plays with them. It’s years ahead. And if you say the 256Gb is the problem you can easily add a SSD to the 3 USB4 Ports. There is nothing with better value than this one.

    • @BearHandsGaming
      @BearHandsGaming Месяц назад

      Seriously, Ryzen 8945Hs? That SOC is for kids compared to M4 what a joke

    • @FilipCools
      @FilipCools Месяц назад +1

      This is absolutely one of the best Mac Mini M4 reviews here on RUclips. Thank you so much!

    • @Tung-gj1rl
      @Tung-gj1rl Месяц назад

      Wtf? Do you even know what you’re saying? Lol. That pc you mention sucks ass compare to the M4.

  • @JarppaGuru
    @JarppaGuru Месяц назад

    its all old story this is said every time new model

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      And that doesn't make it true?
      As far as I know you never got a better PC for 700€ or 600$.
      And the last model had to less memory in the base config to make all of this work fine.

  • @wisdomyaw03
    @wisdomyaw03 Месяц назад +1

    You used a lot of outdated benchmarks that aren’t optimized for Apple silicon or some even deprecated like OpenCL GPU test in Geekbench. Cinebench r23 is an Intel benchmark that needs to be translated through Rosseta 2. Why not use Cinebench 2024, which is optimized for Apple silicon?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      Thats both not true. Apple Supports OpenCL as well nothing translated there and Cinebench r23 is also a Native Apple Silicon App. 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @wisdomyaw03
      @wisdomyaw03 Месяц назад

      No! Just do a little bit of research and find out what I’m talking about.
      1. OpenCL is a deprecated API Apple abandoned long ago when they switch to Metal. It still works in macOS, but it’s no longer being improved or updated. Metal is Apple’s officially supported API that all the major and modern apps use.
      2. Cinebench r23(not Cinebench 2024) uses Intel binary to run its benchmark. It’s therefore translated through Rosseta 2 on Apple silicon systems. This is known by industry experts who know how the benchmark works. Cinebench 2024 is the natively supported Apple silicon version. Just read their release note on their website when they announced the new benchmark where they stated that this one is optimized for Apple silicon.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      @@wisdomyaw03 wow, how can someone be so confident in his bullshit? First of all, I'm not a developer, I'm a user and I can use OpenCL and OpenGL on MacOS even if Apple says Metal is the Way to go, but how should I compare a Mac against a Windows Mini with Metal? It's not possible. On Cinebench you are completely wrong. In fact CB r23 was one of the first native Apple Silicon Apps cack in 2020. You can google that yourself. Just try "cinebench r23 apple silicon".

  • @doctorkj5640
    @doctorkj5640 Месяц назад

    Can you define a filmmaker for me please? Is it a director, editor, cinemathographer, vfx artist or something else. This term is so broad that can be really misleading. Editing is technically the least hardware demanding job in all postproduction. So OK.
    What about colorists? You can hardly even begin to color grade a feature film on mac mini. A VFX artist doing heavy compositing with hundreds of cgi render passes? Don’t even think about it.
    Oh, silly me, by the term filmmaker you mean just youtubers editing their videos. OK.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      A filmmaker is referring to someone that makes videi by himself from start to finish. idea, Shoot, Sound, Edit, Grade. Content Creators are also often referred to as Filmmakers but there are a lot of one man show Filmmakers I know that don’t call themselves Director, DP, Colorist or whatever since they do it all.
      And no, coloring is not a hardware demanding thing. It’s basically a joke for your hardware to apply grading. color Grading is not a problem for the Mini at all. VFC is something totally different. But if you are using VFX you know that you need Most power possible and I don’t talk about VFX here or do I?

    • @doctorkj5640
      @doctorkj5640 Месяц назад

      @@davision-en Coloring is a joke for hardware? Seriously? I think you have never been involved in a professional process of color grading. Applying effect or two for YT video is not color grading. And filmmaker is a person involved in film making. And filmmaking is pretty well defined. Google it up.

  • @ed209v6
    @ed209v6 Месяц назад

    You sound like a South Park character

  • @OraGoog
    @OraGoog Месяц назад

    Deutsch wäre besser für dich.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      Ich habe einen deutschen Kanal aber was ist dein Problem? 🙄

    • @OraGoog
      @OraGoog Месяц назад

      ​@@davision-enWieso sprichst du dann nicht deutsch?

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      ​@@OraGoog Klar spreche ich deutsch aber das hier ist offensichtlich ein Kanal mit englischen Videos...

  • @adoyer04
    @adoyer04 Месяц назад

    da german comes trough wenn speaking. he tries not to spell like a native english guy as you would learn it in europe.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад

      You may are surprised to know that native English comes from Europe...
      How is it possible that People still talk about how a obviously non native speaker has troubles with some words?

  • @spectrumofreality
    @spectrumofreality Месяц назад +1

    The power button placement is simple. Every time you power cycle the device, you have to physically pick it up and touch it. This is psychological and a form of pathological priming.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  Месяц назад +1

      Maybe next time the power button got switched for a gentle stroke over the Apple logo so the Mini feels your love.

  • @HossDiaph
    @HossDiaph 26 дней назад

    Very straight forward, and instructive. I don't care about exporting times, but what bugs me with my current M1 Mac mini is the lag I have in Lightroom CC when using masks and brushes. It makes me mad, and I have a much better experience when using my M1 pro MacBook pro. So do you confirm that I don't need to go to the much more expensive M4 pro Mac mini to get a lag free Lightroom CC experience! thanks for the answer.

    • @davision-en
      @davision-en  25 дней назад

      I don't know since I never used and will never use Lightroom CC, I just can tell you that in Classic it's not a Problem at all.