Wow that comp is actually quite strong for a single civ comp. Ofc it's also very expensive to get to. And it's interesting that the only unitst that can somehow keep up with it are the few Siege UUs the composite bow can't pierce and the well-known kind of OP cavalry units like Leitis. Unfortunately Armenians have terrible Siege, so this kind of slow push comp that loves enemy units running into it is way less effective.
The red units are not fighting efficiently, they are getting distracted by archer fire and not fighting well. 1 example is the chakrams would actually do way better than what we see here
I'm confused by the pathing of the red units, in games I never see them go for the archers first when patrolling into enemies. In any case, that weird pathing greatly affected many results in blue's favor.
@@AotO_DJ Sure, good pathing wouldn't have flipped the battles entirely, but I meant that in many cases it would have been much closer. The red units often pass through the champions, being damaged without attacking. Such early losses can really snowball fights
The archers drew 'agro' from the frontline. At least that's what I saw, the units chasing after the backline after getting hit. Then some stopped because they were getting attacked by the champions as well.
Would be nice if they can nerf the infantry hp tech and buff the elite upgrade for composite bowman... (5hp and 1 melee armor only for elite upgrade really??)
WOW. Only Organ guns(VERY DECISIVELY), Cataphracts, Leitis and Boyars could win the fight. Leitis and Boyars you can easily win if you mix half halbs half champions(as a damage sponge). Ballista Elephants should have actually lost the fight, there was a bug with bowmans. This comp is at least on par with Cent+Legion army. IMO better.
Wow that comp is actually quite strong for a single civ comp.
Ofc it's also very expensive to get to. And it's interesting that the only unitst that can somehow keep up with it are the few Siege UUs the composite bow can't pierce and the well-known kind of OP cavalry units like Leitis.
Unfortunately Armenians have terrible Siege, so this kind of slow push comp that loves enemy units running into it is way less effective.
first time i see Organ Gun win in this kind of match up
The red units are not fighting efficiently, they are getting distracted by archer fire and not fighting well. 1 example is the chakrams would actually do way better than what we see here
Urumi: "I have reported them for cheating"
If they won’t kill the archers first, they are dead.
@@AotO_DJ only cavalry is fast enough to go around kill archer first, if infantry tries to do it they get screwed badly like what happened to Urumi
"Lets our pollute power combine"!
I'm confused by the pathing of the red units, in games I never see them go for the archers first when patrolling into enemies. In any case, that weird pathing greatly affected many results in blue's favor.
Pathing in this patch is actually pretty messed up. You should try playing the game. Units act quite strangely.
Units have been acting like this in Mike'a vids before this patch. I've played 1500 hours, thanks for the advice.
If they start the fight against champions , they would have died by the time they have to go against archers.
@@AotO_DJ Sure, good pathing wouldn't have flipped the battles entirely, but I meant that in many cases it would have been much closer. The red units often pass through the champions, being damaged without attacking. Such early losses can really snowball fights
The archers drew 'agro' from the frontline. At least that's what I saw, the units chasing after the backline after getting hit. Then some stopped because they were getting attacked by the champions as well.
Would be nice if they can nerf the infantry hp tech and buff the elite upgrade for composite bowman... (5hp and 1 melee armor only for elite upgrade really??)
WOW. Only Organ guns(VERY DECISIVELY), Cataphracts, Leitis and Boyars could win the fight. Leitis and Boyars you can easily win if you mix half halbs half champions(as a damage sponge). Ballista Elephants should have actually lost the fight, there was a bug with bowmans. This comp is at least on par with Cent+Legion army. IMO better.